Keep in mind, this system can run on any power plant to run the generator portion. You may be driving a hydrogen or some other fuel car made by Edison someday or some other manufacturer
I work in waste transport in Australia as a residential garbo, I would love to see the Edison idea put into practice in garbage trucks, I do whats called side arm for those who arent familiar, a mechanical hydraulic operated arm off the side of the truck for collecting bins by lifting them and dumping them into a hopper. Doing stop start between collections and working in dense residential areas of major urban areas early mornings, having the electric capabilities would mean I could service areas quietly under electric power then when I am ready to unload at a waste facility the batteries could recharge off the diesel during driving when I'm away from populated areas. Many people complain about the noise of our trucks of a morning and we'd reduce the potential for complaints and have instant power for getting moving between stopping effectively increasing our efficiency
there is also diesel hydraulic hybrid technology out there. engine charges a high pressure hydraulic accumulator. I haven't heard an update, but it was supposed to have a better lifespan than batteries.
@@wobblysauce exactly right, like my truck at work with an isle Cummins is a bit noisy and even when it's daylight morning, people have a whinge about noise to reducing noise from a hybrid setup truck would work well.
Yes, but minor changes maybe. The hood is really big for maintanance, but it is an obsticle in your way of sight. So maybe chop it down 30 cm? Maybe only the front with a grade. Would still have a lot of corners and look cool. And maybe chop the cabin, so that the driver can reach everything. It looks too high, especially when driving solo. Don't change the seat hight or position!
There is something you forget to mention,this is ACTUALLY a universal truck,IT doesn’t matter if you drive on the right or left…🎉🎉🎉 I HOPE YOU GUYS SUCEED🚀🚀
As i'm in a RHD country i looked at this about the time they were throwing concept drawing about and thought sweet that will only need RHD headlights to be able to be used here
It's soo gloriously quiet while at fast pace. If only more of them were on highways. Living and Working near a highway / freeway would be much more pleasant.
@@Neojhun where I live they are replacing all 96 local buses to full EVs and everyone saying how much nicer the local environment is - as in sound and clean air around the new buses
@@Neojhun Most of the highway noise is actually tire noise. Unless you have a lot of trucks with loud pipes. Then yes, electric is quieter. But in general you don't hear most engines over tire noise at about 40 km/h.
You know will all your testing I’m surprised you don’t have a laptop tray for your jump seat. I’m sure it will make testing and reprogramming a lot easier. Then once you get all your testing done you can use it to play solitaire and minesweeper.
Lol…is that like a soft start function for the TCU on regen to limit over voltage condition? I think I have heard these exact same conversations and terms before on a diesel electric drillship. Awesome. That cabinet with the TCU in it looks like it came right from one of our ships. Please hold on as long as you possibly can before taking any of that dirty VC money. You’re exactly right, they would start steering your little company into the engineered obsolescence lane at the first meeting on the way to selling your company to the big 3 or shutting it down. Hold on and hold out as long as you can. I am holding 2 glorious pickup trucks in my collection to be repowered by Edison.
Planned failure is wrong....but a business only survives if it is able to have reoccurring revenue. VC money isn't dirty either if you have the right partners.
The approach taken with how the vehicle is laid out isn't just common sense, its a logical for all parties concerned. I wish the 6 years I spent in development engineering was with you guys ❤
The old adage - "They don't build them like they used to" is completely thrown out by Edison. They do build them like they used to and they put the best of the old in with the best of the new. This is how you change the world.
My family owned a small trucking company mostly around dirt hauling when I was younger. These would have been great for what we did. I work in tech but have fond memories of being in trucks or heavy machines.
Regenerative braking is like converting the vehicle motion back into electric power and stored back into battery, so this is very efficient as compared to physical brake pad stopping by friction (which is energy lost as frictional heat)
Sure would be awesome! For their use-case (hauling heavy loads down hill and running empty up), all that kinetic energy they'll capture might mean very little- if any- use of the generator engine when conditions are ideal. Boggle the heck out of me why traditional track manufacturers will not apply this hybrid idea to their powertrains. There won't be a need for EGRs, and get 50% +/- fuel economy.
i adore this truck and this crew i cant wait to get into this industry if ill be able to work with guys like you, ill def be getting one of these trucks someday
since yall put the go pro off the old mirror hangers, i think it might be a great idea to put a camera system off them as well. forward, reverse, steers, and sides. Built in liablity protection and trail cams. for a logging truck, sounds actually pretty OP.
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing the testing drive in the video. Will be following with keen interest. This is indeed my favorite & ideal truck for my rugged country to move our logs from the bush to the sawmills. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!
then you read all the regulations and other things you have to put up with and... yeah. there's a lot of very angry truckers out there, when it comes to the reglatory environment.
Take thid with no disrespevt from some one older. Your basicly a child get invokded if ypur wanting to be find out bout it u can make good money despite wat u may think
It’s almost scary imagining something that powerful moving silently down the road. But it amazing nonetheless. Rooting for you guys big time. Where are you with the pickup conversions?!?
As much as i love the tractor vibes the stack gives, inthink itd be slick to see one of these with a snorkel going up one side of the cab, and the stack pipe going up over the other
Im loving the tech and what you're doing. From a parts guys perspective you guys are doing amazing work. Cant wait to see what you guys do with your parts books in the future
I build industrial chemical analyzers and figuring out where the problem is when is comes to electrical equipment can be an absolute nightmare. Eric's reaction is exactly how I feel when I figure it out!!! 😁
I’m intensely curious to see how this turns out for efficiency on a long haul. (Mpg or whatever you Canadians call it L/km?) If it can make a significant increase in fuel economy over what’s on the market, you’ll have more sales than you can produce in a lifetime. There are a lot of fleet companies who would replace every truck in their fleet for a 1-2 mpg improvement. That can mean millions of dollars per year ROI. You’re doing an awesome thing here. Keep it up.
imagine the traction for heavy hauling, thinking of a triaxle drive and powered twinsteer, no need for a weight block on the fifth wheel, add an extra layer of batteries
Will you guys cut out the background music all the way for a while on these cruises so we can really just hear the truck? I love what you guys are doing.
good luck people, you seems to be doing a nice work out there. Off The Shelf, right to repair, and nice ideas.. I can see how the generator may be easily adapted to alternative fuels like fuel cell (both hydro and methane) when there will be on the marker relatively easy. Hope you have the success you deserve
love how your truck looks and acts I've seen the Tesla truck in california on the interstate and on some surface roads it looks like a toy.... Topsy looks like a working mans truck I can just imagine it with log bunks !!!!!
Love what you are doing. As an electrician I believe electric motors do not get the appreciation they deserve. And I’m sick of planned obsolescence and products not being designed to be serviced.
Now that I've seen one feild tested now I wanna put it on a 53ft great dane even more even though I know that it's a heavy hauler for a kid who wants to become a trucker it's really made me reconsider becoming a owner op
I remember from your EU tour you liked the cab having airbags on all four corners. Any chance you plan on doing that? I'd imagine in logging that'd be nice.
90kph in Asia or any parts of the world is pretty damn fast. Most of the trucks here are governed to 80kph. But some just outright reach 100+kph disregarding public safety especially when roads are already narrow compared to American standards.
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After some time, it would be amazing if the system could give details on system health without an OBD2. With everything being easier to get to and repair, it would also be great to make it easier for operators to make more repairs without a shop. The only types of jobs that deter me from my own work are the ones that require hours or even days of teardown and rebuilding. Those jobs also make a lot of downtime. It's hard to say how busy a shop is at any given moment and priority can be expensive.
I love what you guys have done the past few years. Can I get your opinion on the ramcharger comming out next year? Its a smaller version of Topsy for the retail truck market. I hope to get one asap. There is not much updated info for the past few months on that truck that I can find. Thanks guys.
Love this company. Just wish you guys had the Tesla name before you know who took it. Thomas Edison wasn't the greatest guy but it is what it is. I wish yall THE BEST
It should save on brakes to some extent but most truckers primarily use the engine brake anyways so brakes aren’t a real common thing to have to replace. I’ve heard electrics are harder on tires though and tires are way more expensive than brakes. No matter what you’re driving there is always gonna be parts that need to be replaced at certain intervals, tires, brakes, etc. The biggest savings will be fuel prices.
Depending on a Jake Brake on a hill seems safer than depending on some programmer coding in a different Country. If they trusted your company, you would have access to all of the source code as well as programming tools. I realize you are a small company but if you don't have root access, you are not in command.
Yeah, much as I love Edison and what they're doing, those modules are suspect that they can't fix them remotely. Like he said 30 minutes to get them in and out, but that's ignoring they had to send a dude to china on a plane for them to fix them. Of course I know it's because they couldn't find something in Canada and it's just how the cookie crumbles. But hopefully a better solution is found.
Well, it’s like this you see. My mind started wandering and got to the point where the regen power could over load a full battery and you need to dump it some where. So I started down the path of feed it back into the generator right? Then I was thinking the generator doesn’t even need to be running or even enabled as the oil pump still feeds it with no systems on. So, with a Jake brake you could still have regen braking with no battery or generator.
I'm not a trucker so I don't have a horse in this race, but I love what you guys are doing here. Thanks for the update!
I'll be honest, if you eat food and don't live on a farm, you definitely have a horse in this race.
@@Triaxx2 lol good point!
Really, we all have a horse in this race because we want the way he does things to be done that way in any industry.
@@Triaxx2 The electronic device you're watching this on was moved by a truck. We all have a stake in this
Keep in mind, this system can run on any power plant to run the generator portion. You may be driving a hydrogen or some other fuel car made by Edison someday or some other manufacturer
I work in waste transport in Australia as a residential garbo, I would love to see the Edison idea put into practice in garbage trucks, I do whats called side arm for those who arent familiar, a mechanical hydraulic operated arm off the side of the truck for collecting bins by lifting them and dumping them into a hopper. Doing stop start between collections and working in dense residential areas of major urban areas early mornings, having the electric capabilities would mean I could service areas quietly under electric power then when I am ready to unload at a waste facility the batteries could recharge off the diesel during driving when I'm away from populated areas.
Many people complain about the noise of our trucks of a morning and we'd reduce the potential for complaints and have instant power for getting moving between stopping effectively increasing our efficiency
there is also diesel hydraulic hybrid technology out there. engine charges a high pressure hydraulic accumulator. I haven't heard an update, but it was supposed to have a better lifespan than batteries.
Also being able to start earlier, less noise complaints.
The garbage trucks where I live in Norway are electric.
An electric tilt tray would be mint for doing early morning breakdowns etc. run the generator when you need to. otherwise. not
@@wobblysauce exactly right, like my truck at work with an isle Cummins is a bit noisy and even when it's daylight morning, people have a whinge about noise to reducing noise from a hybrid setup truck would work well.
I love your old school elegance in engineering. Keep it easy to work on and as simple as possible. Rare
Yes, but minor changes maybe. The hood is really big for maintanance, but it is an obsticle in your way of sight. So maybe chop it down 30 cm? Maybe only the front with a grade. Would still have a lot of corners and look cool. And maybe chop the cabin, so that the driver can reach everything. It looks too high, especially when driving solo. Don't change the seat hight or position!
I love Eric’s enthusiasm and excitement, he’s usually so quiet and reserved on camera
There is something you forget to mention,this is ACTUALLY a universal truck,IT doesn’t matter if you drive on the right or left…🎉🎉🎉 I HOPE YOU GUYS SUCEED🚀🚀
As i'm in a RHD country i looked at this about the time they were throwing concept drawing about and thought sweet that will only need RHD headlights to be able to be used here
@@unhippy1wouldnt be difficult. Narva make RHD LED drop in inserts
@@HJZ75driver That was my point...its need basically no extra done to it to allow it to be used in RHD countrys
Tesla is the same thing
I love the lack of sound this truck makes - very well done
It's soo gloriously quiet while at fast pace. If only more of them were on highways. Living and Working near a highway / freeway would be much more pleasant.
@@Neojhun where I live they are replacing all 96 local buses to full EVs and everyone saying how much nicer the local environment is - as in sound and clean air around the new buses
@@Neojhun Most of the highway noise is actually tire noise. Unless you have a lot of trucks with loud pipes. Then yes, electric is quieter. But in general you don't hear most engines over tire noise at about 40 km/h.
@@Neojhun most of the road noise you hear from a car passing by is from the tires compressing air.
You know will all your testing I’m surprised you don’t have a laptop tray for your jump seat. I’m sure it will make testing and reprogramming a lot easier. Then once you get all your testing done you can use it to play solitaire and minesweeper.
RIP 3D Pinball Space Cadet. That was way more fun than Solitaire and Minesweeper.
Or on the dash. Seems like that would be pretty useful.
Lol…is that like a soft start function for the TCU on regen to limit over voltage condition? I think I have heard these exact same conversations and terms before on a diesel electric drillship. Awesome. That cabinet with the TCU in it looks like it came right from one of our ships.
Please hold on as long as you possibly can before taking any of that dirty VC money. You’re exactly right, they would start steering your little company into the engineered obsolescence lane at the first meeting on the way to selling your company to the big 3 or shutting it down. Hold on and hold out as long as you can.
I am holding 2 glorious pickup trucks in my collection to be repowered by Edison.
Planned failure is wrong....but a business only survives if it is able to have reoccurring revenue. VC money isn't dirty either if you have the right partners.
The approach taken with how the vehicle is laid out isn't just common sense, its a logical for all parties concerned. I wish the 6 years I spent in development engineering was with you guys ❤
Your employees look so genuinely enthusiastic and invested about what they do
So awesome to see Topsy on the road! Can't wait for the work load test. Congrats to you guys for making the dream come true.
The old adage - "They don't build them like they used to" is completely thrown out by Edison. They do build them like they used to and they put the best of the old in with the best of the new. This is how you change the world.
i can't wait to be able to buy stock in this company. yall are doing the work that the big 3 won't do
If you want a good ROI it probably makes more sense to buy their products, it will likely be extremely overpriced relative to their fundamentals
I hope they don't sell stock and become a shell of itself and a certain copy of every auto company out there
@@uhhhhidektbhThey need startup money. So shares were sold early on
My family owned a small trucking company mostly around dirt hauling when I was younger. These would have been great for what we did. I work in tech but have fond memories of being in trucks or heavy machines.
Regen breaking should mean that brake pads will need to be replaced less as often when compared with traditional trucks, correct?
I would imagine it's the same as engine breaking on traditional trucks
it should do yeah
Yes, same as an electric car. My Electric car has 143 K Miles on it. Still on original brake pads and discs .
Regenerative braking is like converting the vehicle motion back into electric power and stored back into battery, so this is very efficient as compared to physical brake pad stopping by friction (which is energy lost as frictional heat)
Traditional trucks use an engine brake aswell so I'm sure the brake life is comparable to modern trucks. But the gain in efficiency should help allot.
I genuinely hope this company succeeds. Brilliant idea happy to see it progressing.
I was waiting for your video so badly. I am hooked to your channel.
Next step is regen for trailer axles what a bonus that would be
Sure would be awesome! For their use-case (hauling heavy loads down hill and running empty up), all that kinetic energy they'll capture might mean very little- if any- use of the generator engine when conditions are ideal. Boggle the heck out of me why traditional track manufacturers will not apply this hybrid idea to their powertrains. There won't be a need for EGRs, and get 50% +/- fuel economy.
The problem there is the cost per trailer.
@dposcuro that’ll pay for itself over time in fuel and maintenance savings.
Just need to sort out a new 800 volt trailer plug standard. 🤔
Great update! Can’t wait to see Topsy hauling loads!
Great work gentlemen, keep up the awesome work
So much joy in these videos! Love what you're doing - the achievement must feel immense
I would so love to have 1 of these trucks... Preferably in a Roll Off body, for moving Roll Off cans around Tulsa, OK.
Out of interest. How much do you think it should cost?
perfect application.
It's been a while since I'm following you guys. Keep going 💪🏼
i adore this truck and this crew i cant wait to get into this industry if ill be able to work with guys like you, ill def be getting one of these trucks someday
since yall put the go pro off the old mirror hangers, i think it might be a great idea to put a camera system off them as well. forward, reverse, steers, and sides. Built in liablity protection and trail cams. for a logging truck, sounds actually pretty OP.
It's always funny to see something of that size move without a sound! Can't wait for road testing! :)
Right on! Really looking forward to seeing how regen works with a big load.
I mean just look at the monster regen that the Silverado EV gets should give an idea
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing the testing drive in the video. Will be following with keen interest. This is indeed my favorite & ideal truck for my rugged country to move our logs from the bush to the sawmills. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!
The diesel electric combined with solar would be wonderful on a yacht. Most boats spend days to weeks in single locations.
Shore Power is already a heavily established infrastructure. "Trickle Charging" at around 10kw from Grid power should be quite doable.
@@Neojhun Betwen shore power and a Comercial generator air-conditioned spaces at night without a generator running
They're both spinning the right way yeah pretty important milestone 👍gotta love the journey.
I love that you're creating so many videos. Show people what can be done and what good design can do for the person who works with it!
I've never bought a stock in my life but I'd invest in these people.
I really like this truck. Hoping to see it massed produced soon.
Looking forward to investing in you and this company.
this guy single handedly made me wanna become a trucker (i'm 21 in a different career) 😂
Never too late lol
then you read all the regulations and other things you have to put up with and... yeah. there's a lot of very angry truckers out there, when it comes to the reglatory environment.
Welp the industry wants you badly.
Take thid with no disrespevt from some one older. Your basicly a child get invokded if ypur wanting to be find out bout it u can make good money despite wat u may think
It’s almost scary imagining something that powerful moving silently down the road. But it amazing nonetheless. Rooting for you guys big time. Where are you with the pickup conversions?!?
Oh yeah!! Now she's moving nice
Awesome work guys.
Very cool but definitely looking forward to tow and distance testing because as we all know that’s where it counts. Wish you luck
Move that damn front stack! It's killing my view of the road lol 🇺🇸
Keep up the great work Chase & crew!
As much as i love the tractor vibes the stack gives, inthink itd be slick to see one of these with a snorkel going up one side of the cab, and the stack pipe going up over the other
I'm glad you guys are so successful on your endeavors... Thank you and keep it going.
Topsy looks fun as hell to drive
cant wait to that go up and pull some logs!
Im loving the tech and what you're doing. From a parts guys perspective you guys are doing amazing work. Cant wait to see what you guys do with your parts books in the future
Can't wait to see her hauling a full trailer load to the mill
I'm trying to imagine what it would be like seeing an Edison Motors truck on the road in a few years… I think it would be awesome
I build industrial chemical analyzers and figuring out where the problem is when is comes to electrical equipment can be an absolute nightmare. Eric's reaction is exactly how I feel when I figure it out!!! 😁
I would like to see you put a chalk line on the two rear axle tires. Spin them up and use a tach light to compare them to each other and the computer.
Keep going keep making it better
I’m intensely curious to see how this turns out for efficiency on a long haul. (Mpg or whatever you Canadians call it L/km?) If it can make a significant increase in fuel economy over what’s on the market, you’ll have more sales than you can produce in a lifetime. There are a lot of fleet companies who would replace every truck in their fleet for a 1-2 mpg improvement. That can mean millions of dollars per year ROI. You’re doing an awesome thing here. Keep it up.
Put that thing to work 👍
imagine the traction for heavy hauling, thinking of a triaxle drive and powered twinsteer, no need for a weight block on the fifth wheel, add an extra layer of batteries
Will you guys cut out the background music all the way for a while on these cruises so we can really just hear the truck? I love what you guys are doing.
good luck people, you seems to be doing a nice work out there. Off The Shelf, right to repair, and nice ideas.. I can see how the generator may be easily adapted to alternative fuels like fuel cell (both hydro and methane) when there will be on the marker relatively easy.
Hope you have the success you deserve
love how your truck looks and acts I've seen the Tesla truck in california on the interstate and on some surface roads it looks like a toy.... Topsy looks like a working mans truck I can just imagine it with log bunks !!!!!
When are we going to see Topsy hauling a load of logs of the mountain?
Love what you are doing.
As an electrician I believe electric motors do not get the appreciation they deserve.
And I’m sick of planned obsolescence and products not being designed to be serviced.
Very cool, can't wait to see this thing with a load of logs pulling the 97C climb out of Ashcroft!!!
I'd love to take this for a drive!
congrats guys
Super proud to be an investor! Great job guys, keep up the excellent work!
Love it bro!!! Looks like you have been eating well!!! Lol😂
Four bolts, roundtrip ticket, easy peasy!
Chase with the faces while parking, lookin good bud! 🤨 Oh yea, and Topsy's pretty decent too. 🤜
Now that I've seen one feild tested now I wanna put it on a 53ft great dane even more even though I know that it's a heavy hauler for a kid who wants to become a trucker it's really made me reconsider becoming a owner op
I remember from your EU tour you liked the cab having airbags on all four corners. Any chance you plan on doing that? I'd imagine in logging that'd be nice.
They do plan on it.
"Dude that was fucking awesome, bro!" Yes, yes it was. 😆 Pretty good jam you chose for the background music too.
You guys need to bring the motor control firm/software in-house.
When you said you ran it up to 90, I was shocked, that is fast! But then realized you meant kph not mph like in the US. Lol.
90kph in Asia or any parts of the world is pretty damn fast. Most of the trucks here are governed to 80kph. But some just outright reach 100+kph disregarding public safety especially when roads are already narrow compared to American standards.
Nice work! Hybrid technology offers so many advantages. This should be the future or trucking!
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Good job boyz!
Wow this is good to see. People using whats THERE and figuring to MAKE it work. I guess common sense is still alive! :-) Good to see
great job
awesome!
Very cool!
After some time, it would be amazing if the system could give details on system health without an OBD2. With everything being easier to get to and repair, it would also be great to make it easier for operators to make more repairs without a shop. The only types of jobs that deter me from my own work are the ones that require hours or even days of teardown and rebuilding. Those jobs also make a lot of downtime. It's hard to say how busy a shop is at any given moment and priority can be expensive.
Excellent
Today on Shoresy builds a truck haha. Looks great, good job!
I also drive Topsy, only in Snowrunner.
😆😆😆
Time to see Topsy moving logs while regenerating downhill.
Now if y'all can come in this Sunday to make this a kit for my 2012 4Runner that would be great.
Williams t-shirt! Thats great!
If everything works out, please think about expanding into rig design to haul loads on highway.
Heck yeah boys let's get a full load of logs on 'er
How close are we to seeing a fully loaded test(with logs)?
👍😊 next back roads and loaded.
4:29.. this pov..🔥
I love what you guys have done the past few years. Can I get your opinion on the ramcharger comming out next year? Its a smaller version of Topsy for the retail truck market. I hope to get one asap. There is not much updated info for the past few months on that truck that I can find. Thanks guys.
Love this company. Just wish you guys had the Tesla name before you know who took it. Thomas Edison wasn't the greatest guy but it is what it is. I wish yall THE BEST
Love this project! Is there any video of the truck light up at night? bet it looks awesome!!
I'm going to drive this '19 f250 until the wheels fall off then I'm going to get your conversion kit for it to support yall
It should save on brakes to some extent but most truckers primarily use the engine brake anyways so brakes aren’t a real common thing to have to replace. I’ve heard electrics are harder on tires though and tires are way more expensive than brakes. No matter what you’re driving there is always gonna be parts that need to be replaced at certain intervals, tires, brakes, etc. The biggest savings will be fuel prices.
Depending on a Jake Brake on a hill seems safer than depending on some programmer coding in a different Country. If they trusted your company, you would have access to all of the source code as well as programming tools. I realize you are a small company but if you don't have root access, you are not in command.
Yeah, much as I love Edison and what they're doing, those modules are suspect that they can't fix them remotely. Like he said 30 minutes to get them in and out, but that's ignoring they had to send a dude to china on a plane for them to fix them. Of course I know it's because they couldn't find something in Canada and it's just how the cookie crumbles. But hopefully a better solution is found.
Its the cab for me i love it 👍🤠🤘🫶🍻🎸🌞🌳🏞️🌄
When are you guys going on a tour of the country, and if you do, let us know. I'm in North Bay and would love to have you here.
Well, it’s like this you see.
My mind started wandering and got to the point where the regen power could over load a full battery and you need to dump it some where.
So I started down the path of feed it back into the generator right?
Then I was thinking the generator doesn’t even need to be running or even enabled as the oil pump still feeds it with no systems on.
So, with a Jake brake you could still have regen braking with no battery or generator.
good job❤
i wish those fly-bys didnt have some background music.
I'm curious to hear how it really sounds like
These videos can't come out fast enough.