Just wanted to make an update. One point I made in the video was noting that there were a few albums on Tidal that I couldn't find so I'd have to listen via Bandcamp, but since then, the majority of these albums are now on Tidal. This can be as simple as a label releasing their catalogue. So the issue of less music available continues to shrink. Also, yeh, I meant to say the payouts are 4x as much as Spotify not 3x as I said, woops. That number may have changed again given Spotify's pay outs have only declined over time.
Agreed... The sound quality is noticeably better. Years ago when I first started using Tidal, I encountered buffering issues, but it's been smooth sailing for years now.
Nicely done. I like how you presented the info. Good job. Been thinking about making the switch and you’ve helped. Now subscribed and wish you the best. 👍🏻
Personally I can tell you tidal’s payout is definitely so much more rewarding then Spotify , apply music , RUclips , possibly most of the other dsp’s it definitely made me feel appreciated as a artist.
I can't answer that off the top of my head but what I will say is Spotify becoming increasingly "pay to play" is making their audience size redundant for artists. It'll wind up being a "paid with exposure" platform. But regardless this video was centred around recommending a switch for consumers, not necessarily artists.
I wish u could play your local files on Tidal. U can on Spotify. I had both for over a year. But left Tidal. But since Tidal pays more and I heard this before....and my favorite group De La Soul is now on streaming I'm thinking of getting both again.
There's an audio quality difference between Spotify vs Tidal, but you need a good studio monitors to hear the difference. On average headphones or in your car, it's unlikely to hear that quality difference. Tidal music quality of 1,411 kbps is much better than Spotify's little 320 kbps.
I'm not entirely convinced that's true re needing good monitors. I think even today's "average" headphones or car stereos are more than adequate enough to differentiate and enjoy Tidal's HiFi quality (let alone the master quality). But, all that being said, would the average Joe notice or even care? Probably not. Thanks for watching!
@@RobBrens Remember that the listed frequency range of all headphones is very misleading. Overall quality comes down to the level of audibility and accuracy within the whole frequency range. Let's take the very popular Beats Solo3 as an example. Testing from RTINGS and Stereophile shows the Beats Solo3 low-mid frequency issues starting at 400 Hz and below. The charts show bass boosting and distortion starting around 200 Hz. Levels above 5 kHz show a noticeable dB drop creating a lack of upper-treble response. RTINGS show the bass and treble are not accurate to the original mix as the Beats Solo3 is color-profiled with bass at +3 dB and treble at -3 dB. Reviews mention distorted bass, a muddy lower midrange, and a somewhat congested soundstage overall. Having the transducers so close to your ears while isolating the music from the environment, is completely unlike listening to music in a room environment. This is why all professional mixing is done on high-end studio monitors in an acoustically treated room. Playing Tidal through a Beats Solo3 ($129) vs my Genelec 7360A 10-inch Subwoofer ($2,565) is going to be a BIG difference in quality and accuracy on the low end.
Without supporting the artists and songwriters, we will have no music. The ethics behind these services are not equal. I continue to buy physical media if I like the artist. I then own the disc and I have no concerns about compressed files, streaming issues, lossless issues and the like. It is a much simplifier playback with control and known quality. With all of the talk of high-definition files, you have to ask what is the original source of the files? In many, many cases it is an up-sampled version of the 44.1 format. These people providing the streaming services simply do not have access to actual master tapes. It is very doubtful you are getting what they are selling in the high-def or "master recording" premium packages.
I think that's also why they changed the naming of the "master" quality stuff as well. There's a lot to be said for how we consume and experience music via the physical format, convenient is valuable but not necessarily better. I love having my turn table etc. Unfortunately the companies won't change so it has to come from the ground up.
@@RobBrens I just swapped Spotify>Qobuz>Tidal Just finished my Qobuz trial so doing tidal now. I like tidal better minus lack of an offline library on PC
Just wanted to make an update. One point I made in the video was noting that there were a few albums on Tidal that I couldn't find so I'd have to listen via Bandcamp, but since then, the majority of these albums are now on Tidal. This can be as simple as a label releasing their catalogue. So the issue of less music available continues to shrink. Also, yeh, I meant to say the payouts are 4x as much as Spotify not 3x as I said, woops. That number may have changed again given Spotify's pay outs have only declined over time.
Agreed... The sound quality is noticeably better. Years ago when I first started using Tidal, I encountered buffering issues, but it's been smooth sailing for years now.
I think I had the same issue years ago and I turned off normalization, haven't had the same issue since.
My math says that's 4x more than Spotify, even better-er!
Great video mate!
Pretty embarrassing for a guy who can only count to 4 lol, good pick up 😂
@@RobBrens the inner mounting jazz flame is too strong, even your maths has a waltz feel 😝
Good to hear you, bro Its Daniel from tafe. Cheers from Mexico. Spotify sux HD LOL
I'd like to use Tidal but there is no Tidal in my country, only Spotify and Deezer.
Oh interesting, which country is that?
@@RobBrens Ukraine. And yeah, we also have Apple music, but it's not supported by my streamer.
Great video brother! Will definitely be checking out Tidal. 🥁
Thanks brother!
Nicely done. I like how you presented the info. Good job. Been thinking about making the switch and you’ve helped.
Now subscribed and wish you the best. 👍🏻
Thanks heaps! Love hearing from people who have made the switch, in the time I've had Tidal its only gotten better. Thanks for watching!
Personally I can tell you tidal’s payout is definitely so much more rewarding then Spotify , apply music , RUclips , possibly most of the other dsp’s it definitely made me feel appreciated as a artist.
That's great to hear! Thanks for commenting.
Except who uses Tidal?
@@theandroidmeme More people than you may think. A number of people I know have moved across with no regrets and that number continues to grow.
How about the number of users? Does Tidal have enough users especially for new artists who need to reach a large audience?
I can't answer that off the top of my head but what I will say is Spotify becoming increasingly "pay to play" is making their audience size redundant for artists. It'll wind up being a "paid with exposure" platform. But regardless this video was centred around recommending a switch for consumers, not necessarily artists.
@@RobBrens ohh.. okay thanks
I make .0088 per stream for Apple Music, .003 for Spotify
Is this as an independent artist?
@RobBrens Yes. Those are my global averages for around 1m streams Jan to April this year for my new age / ambient piano project.
I wish u could play your local files on Tidal. U can on Spotify. I had both for over a year. But left Tidal. But since Tidal pays more and I heard this before....and my favorite group De La Soul is now on streaming I'm thinking of getting both again.
That's interesting! I've always kept VLC handy for local files but that'd definitely be useful having in one place.
Why not use both?
Put your music on all platforms instead of just one
I did say in the vid to release music on spotify, this was purely consumer focused. Definitely release your music everywhere.
There's an audio quality difference between Spotify vs Tidal, but you need a good studio monitors to hear the difference. On average headphones or in your car, it's unlikely to hear that quality difference. Tidal music quality of 1,411 kbps is much better than Spotify's little 320 kbps.
I'm not entirely convinced that's true re needing good monitors. I think even today's "average" headphones or car stereos are more than adequate enough to differentiate and enjoy Tidal's HiFi quality (let alone the master quality). But, all that being said, would the average Joe notice or even care? Probably not. Thanks for watching!
@@RobBrens Remember that the listed frequency range of all headphones is very misleading. Overall quality comes down to the level of audibility and accuracy within the whole frequency range. Let's take the very popular Beats Solo3 as an example. Testing from RTINGS and Stereophile shows the Beats Solo3 low-mid frequency issues starting at 400 Hz and below. The charts show bass boosting and distortion starting around 200 Hz. Levels above 5 kHz show a noticeable dB drop creating a lack of upper-treble response. RTINGS show the bass and treble are not accurate to the original mix as the Beats Solo3 is color-profiled with bass at +3 dB and treble at -3 dB. Reviews mention distorted bass, a muddy lower midrange, and a somewhat congested soundstage overall. Having the transducers so close to your ears while isolating the music from the environment, is completely unlike listening to music in a room environment. This is why all professional mixing is done on high-end studio monitors in an acoustically treated room. Playing Tidal through a Beats Solo3 ($129) vs my Genelec 7360A 10-inch Subwoofer ($2,565) is going to be a BIG difference in quality and accuracy on the low end.
Without supporting the artists and songwriters, we will have no music. The ethics behind these services are not equal. I continue to buy physical media if I like the artist. I then own the disc and I have no concerns about compressed files, streaming issues, lossless issues and the like. It is a much simplifier playback with control and known quality. With all of the talk of high-definition files, you have to ask what is the original source of the files? In many, many cases it is an up-sampled version of the 44.1 format. These people providing the streaming services simply do not have access to actual master tapes. It is very doubtful you are getting what they are selling in the high-def or "master recording" premium packages.
I think that's also why they changed the naming of the "master" quality stuff as well. There's a lot to be said for how we consume and experience music via the physical format, convenient is valuable but not necessarily better. I love having my turn table etc. Unfortunately the companies won't change so it has to come from the ground up.
great video
Thank you!
A Tidal vs Qobuz video from your POV would be neat
No jokes the day after I put this out, I found out about Qobuz lol. I gotta check it out.
@@RobBrens I just swapped Spotify>Qobuz>Tidal
Just finished my Qobuz trial so doing tidal now. I like tidal better minus lack of an offline library on PC
i use the student plan for spotify while if tidal had one, i would go over there
They do, I pointed it out in the video 😄
@@RobBrens i may of missed it
You can use a VPN, set it to Argentina, sign up, and pay like 280 Argentine peso which is about 1.5 USD which I'm gonna do in a bit
Data on Spoifty crazy i like tidel better than Spotify