Understanding The Broken Business of Spotify

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  • Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
  • Spotify is a $50B+ company, but they have never turned a profit. But why does Spotify keep losing money? The answer to this question becomes more clear when we take a deeper look at Spotify's business model. The current music streaming industry has become very competitive. Adding on to this is the fact that these services have to work with a very consolidated music recording industry, which is run by a powerful oligipoly of three companies. All these facts make it difficult for Spotify to turn a profit, despite the fact that the company has over 530 million active monthly users.
    #spotify #spotifyeconomics #whyspotifykeepslosingmoney

Комментарии • 822

  • @TheRealFabz007
    @TheRealFabz007 12 дней назад +1441

    No one in the right mind uses Amazon music

    • @garv04
      @garv04 9 дней назад +13

      True

    • @Buxenwolf
      @Buxenwolf 9 дней назад +72

      It’s horrible
      1) already playing for prime, you need to pay more for the full featured music service
      2) the UI isn’t great

    • @dammmmyy
      @dammmmyy 9 дней назад +11

      My teacher does for some reason

    • @Buxenwolf
      @Buxenwolf 9 дней назад +1

      Paying *

    • @Funfactstoblowyourmind
      @Funfactstoblowyourmind 9 дней назад +5

      Incorrect i use it and pay for it

  • @MrBlackstarHD
    @MrBlackstarHD 26 дней назад +2780

    Finally RUclips pushing quality videos instead of videos from big channels

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  25 дней назад +123

      Thank you for your support! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @minoo1160
      @minoo1160 15 дней назад +1

      They push what you watch

    • @dorankim9654
      @dorankim9654 15 дней назад +12

      I didnt know that this video is from small channel at all, just notice after reading this comment. Well done to the creator 🎉

    • @WhateverWhenever888
      @WhateverWhenever888 14 дней назад

      @@minoo1160 no…

    • @FastGuy1
      @FastGuy1 14 дней назад +3

      Recently I just started getting so many videos recommended from small channels too

  • @saurabhnehe6862
    @saurabhnehe6862 14 дней назад +716

    Audio Quality : Apple music
    Playlists : Spotify
    Suggestion / Vast library : RUclips music

    • @TheYaq
      @TheYaq 10 дней назад +66

      Oh yeah auto suggesion is so good on yt music

    • @kaillou7557
      @kaillou7557 10 дней назад +65

      i feel the same exact way! youtube has recommended me so many good songs ive never heard before while spotify keeps playing the same 15 songs ive heard before, it feels like Spotify keeps me in a bubble of the same songs. its hard to find new music in my favorite genre on Spotify, when i switched to youtube music, the variety was so beautiful to see and i actually have fun listening, the algorithm is 🤌🏼 chefs kiss

    • @makalacc
      @makalacc 10 дней назад +9

      It's a shame that YT Music doesn't follow the same algorithms like regular YT. Especially when it comes to Balkan countries, you are listening to a croatian song and suddenly next one is albanian and one after it is russian, not even the same genre.

    • @saurabhnehe6862
      @saurabhnehe6862 9 дней назад +3

      @@makalacc in my case apple music does this similar thing

    • @NotMelob-dm4md
      @NotMelob-dm4md 9 дней назад

      ​@@makalacc For me its even better like this. I can listen to anything

  • @benwatts764
    @benwatts764 19 дней назад +1690

    I can't understand how Spotify has created a business model where everyone feels as though they're losing out. Artists don't make enough money. Spotify doesn't make enough money. Users are bombarded with ads.

    • @rho992
      @rho992 18 дней назад +106

      its human nature.. nothing will ever be enough to anyone after a point

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  18 дней назад +333

      I think you raise a very interesting point. While I personally think that paying users get value from Spotify (I'd rather pay Spotify's monthly subscription fee than pay to download each song), some of these tech-based disruptors seem to have created a system in which everyone involved loses. This is perhaps best exemplified with the food-based delivery apps.
      These apps are not profitable, their delivery workers (contractors) do not have full employment benefits and are not paid very well, and fees are constantly increasing, lowering the customer's value.
      It's an industry I will be making a video on to go into more detail.

    • @iQuack
      @iQuack 18 дней назад +108

      You know damn well where the money is going. Taylor Swift needs a 3rd private jet, Drake needs a second mega yacht and I can PROMISE YOU the big 3 record labels are making bank too.

    • @razrv3lc
      @razrv3lc 18 дней назад +27

      @@iQuackTaylor Swift has been vocal about how little she gets from Spotify and iirc she pulled all her music from Spotify once over it

    • @iQuack
      @iQuack 18 дней назад +87

      @@razrv3lc damn that’s crazy coming from a literal billionaire…
      Spotify should really pay her more idk how she can afford to eat!

  • @ArchThaBoss
    @ArchThaBoss 20 дней назад +585

    This video is proof why competition is important. Music streaming is probably the only subscription service where consumers feel they get value for their money. Take the middleman companies out of the equation and there’s planet of money for the artists to make money and not feel screwed and the consumer gets value for what they pay for. The streamers and the labels have just placed themselves at glorified middlemen and artists can’t get paid their worth because of it

    • @Kkugnbbc
      @Kkugnbbc 19 дней назад +14

      It’s the free market though, especially nowadays you don’t need records or labels to get on Spotify or whatnot. Artists think that they will get more negotiating power and more growth potential by partnering with these companies. He mentioned this in the start of the video when he said Spotify couldn’t afford any of them pulling their catalogs.

    • @chemicalfrankie1030
      @chemicalfrankie1030 19 дней назад +5

      120 usd per year without owning a single song? Where the value for consumers would be exactly?

    • @fahimhussain1918
      @fahimhussain1918 18 дней назад

      @@chemicalfrankie1030120 usd per year vs buying the digital copies of whatever songs you’ll enjoy over the rest of your lifetime

    • @jarencascino7604
      @jarencascino7604 18 дней назад +4

      What’s weird about this is that a more competitive market (music streaming) ends up actually hurting more than helping. Spotify doesnt stand a chance because amazon and apple are willing to take a loss.

    • @ArchThaBoss
      @ArchThaBoss 18 дней назад +22

      @@chemicalfrankie1030 different people value different things. The people who listen to music the most don’t have $10 to spend for every new album that comes out so they will settle paying $10 for an all you can eat buffet.

  • @Samuel-er5bf
    @Samuel-er5bf 20 дней назад +2015

    i’ve had Spotify premium for years and tried apple music thinking it was going to be smoother with my iPhone. I’m so used to Spotify and found Apple music annoying, confusing i just didn’t like it.

    • @fall3n834
      @fall3n834 19 дней назад +192

      Dude I feel like same way about Spotify it’s so icky to me

    • @fall3n834
      @fall3n834 19 дней назад +115

      And Apple Music is so much better for your iPhone 😭

    • @sal_alaa
      @sal_alaa 18 дней назад

      Yesss it’s so much easier! Plus i travel a lot so I need to (forced to) change my app store country/region frequently. every time i do that, my entire apple music catalogue is deleted with absolutely no way to recover any of it.
      I then reinstalled spotify, which I’d used last in middle school, and I found all my playlists exactly as they were, completely untouched and unchanged. Never going back to apple music even if they offer to pay me.

    • @mrsneakpeak8778
      @mrsneakpeak8778 18 дней назад +87

      I have a fold 5 and use apple music lol it's just better in my opinion. RUclips music is just a joke and Spotify isjust so odd to me lol

    • @nelmvn
      @nelmvn 18 дней назад +62

      I know Apple Music algorithm is much better than Spotify but I hate their playlists.

  • @Memecube
    @Memecube 27 дней назад +341

    What I don't understand is how despite their business only focusing on music, they still don't offer hi-fi plans like Apple or Amazon. Could even be the answer to that price increase they've been chasing for a while.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  27 дней назад +111

      That's a really interesting point. Although Spotify mentioned plans of introducing HiFi lossless streaming back in 2021, it seems like these plans have vanished.
      I think Spotify has not prioritised this feature simply because a majority of its users are just casual listeners who would simply not notice this difference. So Spotify's thinking might be something along the lines of why focus on this when we have more urgent matters to deal with.
      Although, as you mentioned, there is a chance that this new feature might be included in a new high-end subscription tier that it's rumoured the company is looking to introduce.

    • @summertime_magic
      @summertime_magic 20 дней назад +26

      that would just add to the expenses lol

    • @lance_374
      @lance_374 20 дней назад +32

      @@MBA-Maventhe issue with a higher price for lossless is that competitors offer lossless at the base price.

    • @orlandolacrue2186
      @orlandolacrue2186 19 дней назад

      @@MBA-Maven The only issue is that Apple doesn't charge anything extra for Hi-Fi/lossless.

    • @RLang03
      @RLang03 19 дней назад +15

      @@MBA-Maventhe issue was that Apple and Amazon included it for free so Spotify couldn’t justify charging for it

  • @AMac-ou8rj
    @AMac-ou8rj Месяц назад +603

    Good video from a small channel

    • @rawlvee
      @rawlvee Месяц назад +9

      ai

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  Месяц назад +22

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  Месяц назад +73

      No, none of our videos are AI generated. Meaning that all our content is 100% authentic and human generated.

    • @martinketchum
      @martinketchum 26 дней назад +9

      keep cooking, looking forward to smaller companies topics too on top of the big ones

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  22 дня назад +15

      Thank you! I had to focus on large companies first to help me build an audience (as more well known companies tend to attract more viewers). But videos on smaller companies are definitely coming!

  • @nicktasteless360
    @nicktasteless360 27 дней назад +438

    RUclips music is the only one anyone needs. It comes with no freaking ads on youtube. Hard to beat that.

    • @jonathancastro8487
      @jonathancastro8487 23 дня назад +16

      EXACTLY!!!

    • @NitroCorrupted
      @NitroCorrupted 23 дня назад +55

      To get no ads on RUclips you have to buy RUclips premium which is 14 dollars a month.

    • @jonathancastro8487
      @jonathancastro8487 23 дня назад +22

      @@NitroCorrupted For real? In my country is 8 dollars a month

    • @setywashere
      @setywashere 22 дня назад +19

      3,99 USD in my country 😆

    • @nicktasteless360
      @nicktasteless360 22 дня назад

      @@NitroCorrupted yes but if you really want to use youtube music, u need to get youtube premium. Else the app is really useless.

  • @richardm1393
    @richardm1393 Месяц назад +163

    This video's production quality is right up there with more established channels. Great work.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  Месяц назад +2

      Glad you think so!

  • @snazzyapples4663
    @snazzyapples4663 19 дней назад +69

    I switched to RUclips music simply because I already subscribed to RUclips premium. It’s just far more cost effective for so much more than just music :)

    • @dannyschwertner7785
      @dannyschwertner7785 18 дней назад +7

      I did the same because I pay for RUclips premium. Do you find that RUclips music doesn't stream as well? I hate when I'm on a run and YT music starts buffering. Never had that issue with Spotify. And yes, I keep yt music on audio only and run where there is plenty of cell service 🤷‍♂️

    • @snazzyapples4663
      @snazzyapples4663 17 дней назад

      @@dannyschwertner7785 I never have streaming issues. But I do hate YT Music’s queue system. Anytime I start playing something and add a song to queue it adds it at the back of like 100 songs. There is no play next feature that I can find. That’s my one complaint with the app

    • @tohyongsheng3406
      @tohyongsheng3406 15 дней назад

      @@dannyschwertner7785it is possible to download the songs and acoid this issue

    • @Synical_22-qj4gl
      @Synical_22-qj4gl 10 дней назад +3

      I always used YT music, becouse i dont want to pay for music, and spotify without premium is worse that trash. YT music is SOOOO much better without paying. Its only giving me a few adds, which im honestly fine with, but spotify? Oh yeah, i could make a whole list:
      1. Adds (ok)
      2. 5 skips per day (like wut??)
      3. Shuffling isnt free (and i cant even skip a song more that 5 times???)
      4. When you try to listen to an album or song by searching it, it instead gives you a completely random song (WHY THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST ONE)
      5. Probably something i forgot

    • @LucasSkyCarvalho
      @LucasSkyCarvalho 42 минуты назад

      I'm a long time Spotify user and I confess it was a good experience using YT Premium (no YT ads and YT Music). The Pro with YT Music is that you can find music that are not published on a Spotify, because someone's posted on RUclips and you can listen just the audio of that video. The cons of YT Music for me it was hard to find podcasts to listen. And other cons is integration with other services, like Alexa, or even Android. I can use Spotify Music as my alarm clock.

  • @ensamble6
    @ensamble6 18 дней назад +53

    Currently, Spotify don't have a set "pay per stream" rate. Instead, it varies greatly depending on whether or not the Spotify user is Free or Premium, which region they're listening from (different regions have different payment modes on Spotify), when it's being streamed (payment also varies on Spotify from day to day) and a variety of additional factors. For example, a Free stream pays much less than a Premium stream. Also, the same person streaming the same track multiple times is worth much less than if different Spotify users stream the same song the same amount of times. If you want to calculate an avarage taking into account all of information, it is around 0,0009 USD per stream.

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest 15 дней назад +2

      That sounds bad, but really isn't. It costs nothing to distribute the sound and there is so much of it, one artist more or less hardly matters. Even swift left for a while and then came back, Spotify didn't suffer, there was so much else.
      Artists should learn their stuff has lost its value outside live performances. We even have Ai now that creates new hit songs. Artists should get jobs. Maybe an AI will replace me at some point, you can't stop progress. Sound is easy.

    • @burrybondz225
      @burrybondz225 5 дней назад

      @@bzuidgeest no, she came back because she got exactly what she wanted.

  • @WillSmith-he5ep
    @WillSmith-he5ep 18 дней назад +81

    1:09 This graph is incredibly misleading. Should be to scale

  • @Eaawesome59
    @Eaawesome59 19 дней назад +121

    This video is a good view from the financial side of things, however I would continue to use Spotify even if it became more expensive than the other streaming services. I personally find that the algorithm can’t be matched and is always pushing me to discover new music and genres. Not to mention neat features like being able to control music from one device with another device or having group sessions where multiple people can add songs to a queue from their own phones. I tried Apple Music and it just felt clunky outdated and only wanted to push the most popular artists onto me instead of really trying to know what kind of music I like.

    • @AtomicBoo
      @AtomicBoo 17 дней назад +21

      You like spotify's algorithm???? Before I switched to yt music (cant live without yt premium and music so its 2 for 1), I loathed spotify's algorithm, spotify was always recommending crap for me, also their not true random shuffle always playing the same 50 songs was infuriating too.
      Being able to play any yt video as a song is super nice too for a guy who listents to a lot of osts not available in apple or spotify.

    • @zeep3047
      @zeep3047 15 дней назад +6

      MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, YOU DESIGN THE ALGORITHM!

    • @thegreatershowaiter2522
      @thegreatershowaiter2522 15 дней назад +2

      @@AtomicBooSame here but instead of ost, im big on edm so a lot of livesets on youtube can be listened on youtube music. plus the youtube music algorithm knows me a little too well 👏

    • @alanortiz09
      @alanortiz09 15 дней назад +4

      Im glad im not the only who loathes Spotify's algorithm!! ​@AtomicBoo

    • @Eaawesome59
      @Eaawesome59 15 дней назад +2

      @@AtomicBoo if you think the algorithm is bad it’s either because you don’t listen to enough music for it to really get going or you might not actually like expanding your music taste. RUclips Music is a waste of time because anything that you can only find on RUclips you can just make an MP3 file for free and then add it to local files to use on Spotify.

  • @driver8703
    @driver8703 18 дней назад +32

    I’ve been with Apple Music since the beginning, but tried out Spotify when they had Joe Rogan exclusive and thought about moving over just to have it all in one app. But the more I used the podcast part it would forget where I left off in one and restart it and it did this on multiple occasions. I don’t use the apps to discover music other than “similar artist” suggestions so I’m fine with Apple Music and Apple had radio stations from other countries and I’ve searched Spotify and they don’t have that, so Apple wins on that front as well. Now with Rogan not being an exclusive, I’ve switched all my podcast to Apple podcast now and don’t really use Spotify for anything.

  • @GuidoPerdomo
    @GuidoPerdomo 13 дней назад +8

    IDK how it is in other markets, but in the country I live, Spotify ads are basically (and almost uniquely) promoting you to buy a Premium membership. Meaning they're completely missing out on ad-revenue in at least some territories. Maybe this could make up for some of their losses, although I doubt it will completely make up for it.

  • @diogodores1423
    @diogodores1423 15 дней назад +11

    This video is just wrong. Spotify has reported a profit the last three quarters, and they are probably going to report their first yearly profit for 2024. Given that they also raised prices by 10% in a number of markets, it is almost guaranteed that they will end the year with a profit.
    Also you forgot to mention something that is super relevant for Spotify, for most of the company’s live they have received tons of money injections from the 3 big music distributors, they basically own Spotify and would have kept injecting money as long as needed, for one simple reason, if you have control of the mean of distribution you are the one making the most profit, and Spotify is the biggest mean of distribution. Spotify has more users than all of the other music streaming services combined.

  • @mikecairnduff
    @mikecairnduff 14 дней назад +2

    Great video. The main thing separating Spotify from the others is branding. The other companies are better known for other things.

  • @jarencascino7604
    @jarencascino7604 18 дней назад +1

    This is a great video to show different economics principles.

  • @jonathancastro8487
    @jonathancastro8487 23 дня назад +46

    Thought I was looking a big channel until seeing you had a thousand subs.
    Keep the good work c:

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  23 дня назад +6

      Thank you! Will get there one day.

  • @JoaoPedroGallavotti
    @JoaoPedroGallavotti 20 дней назад +155

    Spotify’s algorithm is untouchable

    • @dennisd9554
      @dennisd9554 19 дней назад +23

      Don't necessarily agree. For some reason, Spotify seems to want to push some of my least favorite songs from my favorite artists on me. And then it seems to think that because I didn't skip them, I want to hear them over and over.

    • @spiyder
      @spiyder 18 дней назад +6

      nope. had spotify for 3 months, and it still didn’t learn my music taste, it took apple music around 3 *days* to learn what i like.

    • @jarencascino7604
      @jarencascino7604 18 дней назад

      @@dennisd9554i agree with this. It will recommend a song and then think that because it recommended it to me, that I like that song and keep playing it. Pandora is the best imo

    • @MrYondaime705
      @MrYondaime705 18 дней назад +2

      This all depends on your music taste lol. Historically, Spotify is the the algo King. That could soon end

    • @frenchprint
      @frenchprint 18 дней назад

      ​@@dennisd9554 same. i've grown increasingly frustrated with their algorithm lately. if i happen to listen to a song more than once a particular day because i was enjoying it, they'll keep putting it in all my personalized playlists. then i get tired of it really quickly and it ruins it for me for a while.

  • @cristhjan
    @cristhjan 19 дней назад +1

    Such and interesting and very detailed video, I’m subscribing 👍🏻

  • @StarcraftForTheSwarm
    @StarcraftForTheSwarm 17 дней назад +34

    My only real gripe with Spotify, as a long time premium member, is the insane lack of a true shuffle. I'm led to believe that this is also an issue on other platforms, but if you have a sufficiently big playlist, you'll soon learn that shuffle is NOT random. It tries to be cute. It tried to play adjacent music in sequence. However, I LIKE a true random shuffle. I want to hear Black Sabbath and then Prince. Not Black Sabbath, and then Dio (who was in Black Sabbath), and then Ozzy solo, and then Heaven & Hell, all of which have a singular tether. For years it's done this, and it is insane to me. Nobody asked for it so....why??

    • @faizzack
      @faizzack 16 дней назад

      Isn't smart shuffle solves the problem?

    • @oxidisers
      @oxidisers 15 дней назад

      if you’re on PC then i’d suggest looking into spicetify. i’ve been using for around a year now and the number of features that are added is crazy - including a smart shuffle

    • @oxidisers
      @oxidisers 15 дней назад

      true shuffle* not smart shuffle

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest 15 дней назад +8

      The reason is simple and known. If Spotify and others create a true random shuffle, which they initially did, they get angry users. People forget that in a random shuffle in a list the change of playing the same song twice or close together is high. Just like the change some songs not being played are high. Or to get multiple similar songs or multiple with very different tempos
      So Spotify and the other services all adjusted their shuffles to act like what most perceive as random. But every number in the list gets played, not close together, similar styles etc etc. For most users this flawed random with all its tricks feels more random.
      And yes many people asked for it.

    • @StarcraftForTheSwarm
      @StarcraftForTheSwarm 14 дней назад

      @@bzuidgeest That is so fucking dumb

  • @vvs9891
    @vvs9891 Месяц назад +3

    amazing video! thank you for breaking this business down.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  Месяц назад

      You are welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @maveyyyyy
    @maveyyyyy День назад +1

    Do you think you could make a more in depth video that compares Spotify, YTB music, Amazon music, etc. ? Because I honestly don't know which is better for me. Just an idea I have, would love to see it done by you! ❤

  • @vojtechfrommel4923
    @vojtechfrommel4923 14 дней назад +7

    RUclips premium is THE ONE for me. I watch youtube a lot (entertainment, education etc.), so I'm saving tons of time I'd waste on ads. More to this, I get to use youtube music also. Amazing stuff.

  • @danilaros
    @danilaros 3 дня назад +1

    I change from Apple Music to Tidal, for me tidal music discovery and new music suggestions are top notch. Quality is also very good too.

  • @junav
    @junav 15 дней назад +2

    really cool video. But maybe try a smother change of the topics so it doesn't come as abruptly
    As to the topic itself. I think the change of the streaming service is not so easy as it got suggested. The only real possibility is paying a little fee to service that transfers it to another service as I believe that many many people do have a lot of songs.

  • @dhaaaak
    @dhaaaak 2 дня назад

    Very informative and thank you so much. It's quite an effort to pull these many information and data. But another possibility to consider would be to increase the charges for the companies who are putting up Ads in-between the songs because of its high reach.

  • @semsomify
    @semsomify 22 дня назад +3

    Great video, good luck with growing the channel

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  20 дней назад +1

      Thanks, I appreciate it!

  • @KaiayaRules
    @KaiayaRules 14 дней назад +3

    The thing about option 3, that I feel like was a bit understated here, is the fact that spotify‘s dependency on other people‘s music makes the business unscalable. If they gain more costumers they will still have to pay the same percentage of royalties. Their overall profit margin wouldn‘t increase. Even if their original podcast aren‘t “as profitable as they had hoped“, original content is kind of the only way they could increase their income

    • @Deamon383
      @Deamon383 13 дней назад

      New users would all have to stream the exact same songs to make your comment true. If there is one new user that is mostly subscribed for podcasts they’re probably in the profit vs a Taylor swift diehard

    • @KaiayaRules
      @KaiayaRules 13 дней назад +1

      @@Deamon383 Yeah, but unless the podcast is a spotify exclusive/original you could still listen to it somewhere else. So really the only way for them to be profitable is by creating USPs which they don’t really have at the moment

  • @jamesdizon5133
    @jamesdizon5133 20 дней назад +7

    easily my favourite channel of this genre, glad i’ve been here to see you grow!

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  19 дней назад +3

      Woah, I am so happy to hear that! Thank you so much for your support!

  • @TheRealOderless635gnat
    @TheRealOderless635gnat 8 дней назад +4

    Want a break from the ads?

  • @That_Sasha_Bee
    @That_Sasha_Bee 14 дней назад

    I think the other thing is that the competition doesn’t offer a free model.
    Then theres issues like how people feel that Spotify pays less to artists or the new T&C written up for audiobooks where they want to own all rights to books put on here.
    As for say them not bringing HiFi Lossless while many currently might not use it that could be a big feature to bring people to them.
    Personally I’ve been buying CDs which is why I used iTunes then Apple Music just works best with keeping all my music in one place. (I have Apple One)
    I think there’s certainly a change in society where a growing number of people are wanting to own physical again because they don’t like the price hikes and media especially older stuff being placed behind a paywall.
    I enjoyed your analysis though good video

  • @likerusmetalgaming5342
    @likerusmetalgaming5342 10 часов назад

    May this guy forever provide such amazing content

  • @NurDumm
    @NurDumm 14 дней назад

    Can you do a video about IT outsourcing and how this market changed since the 80s? Use Tata as example 😊. Thank you 🙏

  • @xLars_
    @xLars_ 21 день назад +4

    Commenting for the algorithm. Great video!

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  20 дней назад +1

      Thanks for the support, I highly appreciate it!

    • @Y-zf7tf
      @Y-zf7tf 19 дней назад

      LPT: you can make multiple youtube channels, each curated for different things you are interested in. Like tech, video games, music (or even different genres of music), etc.

  • @bestusernameever6518
    @bestusernameever6518 14 дней назад

    Literally the only thing stopping me from leaving Spotify is their song recommendation, which has been very on point and had introduced me to some of my favorite artists. But if they're not releasing HiFi in another two months, I'm ditching it.

  • @Leon-gsplrd
    @Leon-gsplrd 2 дня назад

    Incredible video! Finally another indie RUclipsr, I'm a b1 in English and I understand everything!

  • @StuHolland
    @StuHolland 17 дней назад

    Really good video btw thanks ❤

  • @Voltaic314
    @Voltaic314 День назад

    What these companies need to understand is music streaming is so much more about user experience than it is about offering songs and playlists. Spotify kind of understands this but needs to be doing more. It needs to be more aggressive about how it analyzes songs and suggests new ones for you. It needs to create a stronger profile of its users data. Like whether you tend to listen to heavier / higher energy music, or calmer music... Indie or more popular styles, and more. If it could manage this then I think they would fully stomp out all of their competitors. We need more tools to shape our listening experience both at our disposal and working in the background.
    It could operate on a business model similar to Facebook in that artists could "advertise" their songs such that Spotify would recommend them to people they think would highly like them and share them. This would increase artist listen time, user time spent using their app, and overall customer satisfaction.
    This is why its so much more important than just making a service that can play songs and make playlists. You need this data mining of users to create the ultimate streaming app.

  • @champion8367
    @champion8367 19 дней назад +2

    Fantastic analysis 👍

  • @chriso1008
    @chriso1008 16 дней назад +2

    Just got an email from Spotify today saying my Premium Family is going up in price... £17.99 to £19.99. Great video btw!

    • @FastGuy1
      @FastGuy1 14 дней назад

      They like to blame it on “inflation” 😂

  • @FUManagment
    @FUManagment 15 дней назад

    I love this video! Why does Spotify loses money? Because its expenses higher then income! Great, thanks :)
    It could be at least 3 times shorter if not describing obvious

  • @Buxenwolf
    @Buxenwolf 9 дней назад

    I use both
    I’ll just say the pros
    Spotify can be used remotely, we have a family business and I can control the music from anywhere.
    Spotify since it’s more popular among users, the playlist sharing is awesome!
    Apple Music’s sound quality is amazing!
    Apple Music’s sing along feature is amazing for karaoke!
    Apple Music has music videos too
    Apple Music can be used under one user, on several devices at the time (I have a family plan)

  • @the-ironclad
    @the-ironclad 7 часов назад +1

    Spotify not failing anytime soon and nobody uses the other category

  • @Jason-gl7ny
    @Jason-gl7ny 22 дня назад +75

    YT Music is the best. It has everything.

    • @Y-zf7tf
      @Y-zf7tf 19 дней назад +21

      Spotify's music discovery algorithm is still superior tho.

    • @vibbs68s91
      @vibbs68s91 17 дней назад

      ​@@Y-zf7tfya but the shuffle problem with Spotify turned me off it completely

    • @slampog
      @slampog 17 дней назад

      @@Y-zf7tfI’d argue RUclips Music has a far superior discovery algorithm. Spotify is good but nothing wow.

    • @ozark7834
      @ozark7834 17 дней назад +13

      ​@@Y-zf7tf As in they just keep putting the same set of songs over and over

    • @matvey2357
      @matvey2357 15 дней назад

      @@Y-zf7tf 3 years ago - maybe. But not today.
      Mixes of the day has the same stack of songs for YEARS. Maybe its better to find smth new in a fathomless world of songs?
      If I use "don't like the song" button Spotify gonna keep it in a ✨Mix of the Day✨ so this song gone be in a queue so u hear it again after some time.
      Very bad and its sad

  • @mivico
    @mivico 17 дней назад +1

    Great video, you hit every nail right on the head. There is one correction though and that pertains to how you claim Spotify pays out. It's not a fixed amount per stream, it's more of a stream share per market. I'll break it down with simple numbers.
    If in one month, in the US market, Spotify collects $1 million from subscriptions + ads, 70% of that goes into their royalty pool.
    Out of all streams that are counted in that month from the US, if Drake accounted for 50% of all total streams in US, his right's holders would get 50% of that pool which would be $350,000.
    This means you can get the same amount of streams in back to back months but see a different pay out because of how much is in the pool.
    Keep in mind how I said per market, this means that streams in developing countries such as India are valued less as they have a lower subscription fee resulting in a smaller royalty pool.
    All this can basically be simplified to Spotify having a 70% tax on all revenue before they can do anything else with their money.
    Would have also been nice to include something about this (ruclips.net/video/vZLs3v4meDk/видео.html) on why Spotify can't create their own label but this was a great vid!

  • @wordlesolve
    @wordlesolve 24 дня назад +15

    There are definite differences in the catalogs available for streaming as well as audio quality between the popular platforms. Do they all have access to the largest music distributors' libraries? They seem to, but definitely not all the mid to low level labels and artists make all of their music available on every platform. Calling the services identical is simply false. Even some large artists will have the odd EP or single not show up on one service. It seems like Amazon has the worst library overall.

    • @jarencascino7604
      @jarencascino7604 18 дней назад +6

      It is relatively homogeneous compared to other markets these days.

    • @raxcentalruthenta1456
      @raxcentalruthenta1456 16 дней назад

      Can't be worse than Tidal. I swear. Every week another song or two in my collection get greyed out and made unavailable.

  • @sullagod
    @sullagod 13 дней назад

    I was a spotify user until I got hooked with yt, decided to switch to yt premium coz it includes yt music, this is a major win for me since I always use yt on my tablet also i can share my subscription with other family members

  • @user-lu8cl2tm6f
    @user-lu8cl2tm6f 10 дней назад

    i am finding yt music and apple music’s UI/UX less encouraging to use after getting used to spotify for years. I really hope spotify can hang around as many days as possible 🙏

  • @Jimenez69
    @Jimenez69 2 дня назад

    I had Spotify for a long time now after my RUclips Music Subscription ended
    And I've been thinking if I should get Spotify premium and thinking about it twice, I'm not gonna get it, I've gotten too used to ads like a radio

  • @vedantpatel2131
    @vedantpatel2131 20 дней назад +1

    Production quality is great, and content even better. Subscribed.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  19 дней назад

      Thank you so much for your support!

  • @arifhasan402
    @arifhasan402 16 дней назад +1

    Great video. Keep up the good work 💯. I would like to see this channel touches million subscribers this year. Best of luck

  • @nikkvfox
    @nikkvfox 8 дней назад +1

    I prefer Spotify over anything for the collection that it have, cross device sync and the great algorithm.

  • @jeremiahaemile2008
    @jeremiahaemile2008 12 дней назад

    You deserve more subscription s bro i shcoked when i see your subscriptions the video is awesome

  • @prithmusic
    @prithmusic 18 дней назад +2

    Only reason I pay for Spotify is because of the multi device connectivity it offers, also I hate the YT music UI. And Apple Music just makes me feel more limited to the apple ecosystem which I’m not a big fan of (I use both android and ios)

  • @epicduckys6973
    @epicduckys6973 19 часов назад +1

    all my music is on spotify so it would be a pain to switch. I dont see spotify failing anytime soon

  • @KNoxTratZ
    @KNoxTratZ 8 дней назад

    i use yt music because i can remix/edit music and i can listen to it on the yt music app automatically in Spotify i have to upload them and i see people say the same phrase "put this on spotify please" when its already on youtube music

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 16 дней назад

    My dad tried to start a music streaming company to break the current model and create a win-win for the customer and musician but it failed because he couldn't get enough big musicians and record labels to get on board (partly because his new model kinda defeats the purpose of the label companies, making them unnecessary and useless in his new business model)

  • @rowankelling6901
    @rowankelling6901 6 дней назад

    When I like about Apple Music is that I can edit song properties on my computer and upload my own music and even combine them or add it to albums

  • @jonson856
    @jonson856 16 дней назад +1

    The solution would be get more music record labels on the market. Make it more competitive and lower the prices that way.

  • @Flameflanxd
    @Flameflanxd 18 дней назад +1

    Banger vid!!!

  • @OzAndAps
    @OzAndAps 8 дней назад +4

    Spotify is still popular

  • @momamm1
    @momamm1 20 дней назад +4

    what about siriusxm?

  • @vesselinkrastev
    @vesselinkrastev 8 дней назад +2

    If they're not making a profit, then how is that they still exist?

  • @zychu1674
    @zychu1674 9 дней назад

    I prefer youtube music, but the two things keeping me from not using spotify are jams and blends, because all my friends use spotify and we can listen to music together. So basicaly spotify uses apple's strategy of peer pressure to keep me (and probably many others) switching to a much better platform.

  • @wesleysanders8570
    @wesleysanders8570 18 дней назад +8

    Spotify has earned over 1 billion in profit this quarter. I've personally had a 100% stock gain after buying Spotify in 2022, benefitting from videos full of "conventional wisdom" like this one.

  • @srevere7241
    @srevere7241 15 дней назад +1

    Good review for my AP Microeconomics exam next week😂

  • @mpatton997
    @mpatton997 19 дней назад +1

    Awesome video!!!!

  • @J_Pizzle4shizzle
    @J_Pizzle4shizzle 21 день назад +16

    I would still use spotify if it were to double its price. The value i get on it would still be amazing. Ive built up a library so big on spotify that i’d be devastated to lose it, i would actually start buying physical albums.

    • @Nhils
      @Nhils 20 дней назад +8

      You can migrate it pretty easily actually! There are tools dedicated for that :) I was a paid spotify user from 2009 to 2022... ALL my music was on there... But I couldn't stand them funding alt right podcasts, so I left for a similar service and I've honestly been fine :)

    • @denvertitus235
      @denvertitus235 19 дней назад

      Plus Spotify doesn’t truly have a library in the way that Apple Music does. I moved from Apple Music to Spotify and that’s one of the things I miss the most. The OS integration as well.

    • @J_Pizzle4shizzle
      @J_Pizzle4shizzle 19 дней назад

      @@denvertitus235 i feel like spotify’s algorithm is really good at showing me new music that i would like. Many songs and artists i otherwise would not have found if looking for music on my own . I’ve had friends switch from Apple to Spotify and say the same. But theres pros and cons to each

    • @randomcow505
      @randomcow505 19 дней назад

      if you love your library so much, id HIGHLY recommend backing it up somehow, even if its just a huge bunch of screenshots

    • @J_Pizzle4shizzle
      @J_Pizzle4shizzle 18 дней назад

      @@randomcow505 i thought about this. I’ll have to make a list. My library is close to 1500 songs. A lil bit

  • @JeremyHidari
    @JeremyHidari 14 дней назад +1

    Videos and audios should itself be free and be used as ADs to promote other products, such as concerts, events, or books.
    Pay to watch/listen is not gonna work anymore after youtube became this big.

  • @jenmcw84
    @jenmcw84 15 дней назад

    I’ve tried Spotify a couple times but always come back to Apple Music. I like shuffling all my songs from albums I save. I can’t seem to find a way to do that on Spotify.

  • @DummiBoiii
    @DummiBoiii 15 дней назад +1

    I like Spotify’s diverse feeling UI but I love Apple Music’s simplistic and intuitive user experience. I got an apple products so that’s legit the main reason but if didn’t, Spotify would legitimately be the way to go. (Forgot to mention the audio sounds a little better on Apple Music. Don’t know why but I guess better audio files? :p)

  • @CustardCream22
    @CustardCream22 15 дней назад

    I stopped using Spotify years ago. Really happy with Apple Music. Easy to create playlists and smooth UI. Not to mention the hi res audio.

  • @x-x
    @x-x 17 дней назад +2

    I believe this one of the better usecases of AI to write and produce RUclips videos.
    Although the video brings nothing new to the table (Spotify's finances are already covered extensively) it's somewhat enjoyable to watch
    Having said that, I absolutely despise the graphics/infographics. I prefer stock videos of real people and hate corporate artstyle clipart, and that's my opinion, but other than that, for example the first graph of Spotify's finances (Revenue/Net loss) is missing the Y axis! X axis is somewhat coherent, but not enough. HOW CAN YOU MAKE A GRAPH WITHOUT AXES?
    Please, make videos with your own narration next time, I know you want to become next "Logically Answered" because his videos are top quality, but you have to step up your game if you truly do.
    What's more, you give an example what would happen if Univeral would decline lower royalties on Spotify and pull out their music catalogue. Why not mention TikTok in the meantime, that's exactly what happened. I know that TikTok isn't PRIMARLY music app, but lack of Universal's music there didn't immediately kill the app.
    It's funny how you mention not rising their prices and Spotify did exactly that recently lol, at least in my country.

  • @andrei0525
    @andrei0525 13 дней назад

    could've touched a bit more also on the greed of big record companies which ask for higher and higher royalties but don't actually pay their artists properly

  • @fhsh531
    @fhsh531 21 день назад +2

    Awesome video

  • @KazrBrekker
    @KazrBrekker 14 дней назад

    Maybe they'll merge with the only other Big Tech player left to jump into media business - Microsoft and we'll see Spotify and Game Pass included under one umbrella subscription or something like that.

  • @theeartsee6622
    @theeartsee6622 8 дней назад

    as someone studying in marketing, i thought of the same thing. Spotify needs to expand.

  • @fatcrruise6508
    @fatcrruise6508 Месяц назад +38

    merge with netflix

    • @BusterDarcy
      @BusterDarcy 21 день назад +32

      Two sinking ships combined does not make for a seaworthy vessel

    • @axr973
      @axr973 20 дней назад +3

      Lol both will go Bankrupt by next year if that happens

    • @Y-zf7tf
      @Y-zf7tf 19 дней назад +5

      @@BusterDarcy I'm not a netflix simp but netflix is actually thriving now. Emphasis on the NOW.

    • @BenjaminKeller
      @BenjaminKeller 18 дней назад

      No! Repeat after me "Mergers are bad!" We don't need more big corporations like Amazon and Apple. We the oposite break them up into their parts so we can have competition again.

    • @logo417
      @logo417 17 дней назад +1

      More likely get bought by disney

  • @MSigs
    @MSigs 15 дней назад

    I don’t think “it doesn’t matter what you use they offer the same exact music” is the correct take here. The way they handle music suggestion, playlist creation, etc really differs significantly. And it’s for these reasons most people have a strong preference between them. And I do think people would be willing to pay more to keep these preferences rather than switching to a different app. Spotify premium also offers podcasts and audio books. In my opinion Spotify is the best bang for your buck and has the best model for finding new music/artists and has the best playlist options. The only downside imo is the lack of true shuffle.

  • @Jordannn_nope
    @Jordannn_nope 3 дня назад

    25% seems like a good cut for a broker tbh, it's the artist's work that's making them money in the first place though.

  • @TheEklerek20
    @TheEklerek20 10 дней назад

    I’m using Spotify since 2016, so i can’t imagine switching to other app

  • @chemicalfrankie1030
    @chemicalfrankie1030 19 дней назад +2

    25% op profit is not bad for what is, at the end, just a distribution business, but…1.7b in RandD? What’s that about? Also, more than 2b in selling, g&a seems pretty high… where’s the scale? There lies the decrease in costs, not in lowering COGG (royalties paid)

    • @ritwikreddy5670
      @ritwikreddy5670 15 дней назад

      they have to do the r&d to stay in business, or else competitors will just pull forward.

  • @DavidWeddell
    @DavidWeddell 11 дней назад +1

    Why does Spotify not mirror what the so called record companies are doing and sign artists but give them a better deal than the record companies

  • @Zanarkke
    @Zanarkke 17 дней назад +4

    Spotify is dreadful for people that want to discover new music based on what they like. It's breadth of choice cannot compete with youtube that merely needed to adapt its algorithm to music only.

    • @tamepurse
      @tamepurse 12 дней назад +1

      I disagree , me personally i find that Spotify has been great with showing me new music. Way more so than Apple music

  • @thestrange1s
    @thestrange1s 3 дня назад

    Spotify is probs gona be a fully paid thing some day
    Things that used to be free:
    Looping songs/playlists (on the app)
    Lyrics
    Picking the songs that played, instead of it being jumbled up in a random playlist they made
    legit all the good things taken and put behind a paywall

  • @tamal10000
    @tamal10000 3 дня назад

    i know this has the potential of being a doubled-edged sword, but i think spotify should give more focus to their free tier subscription because as of right now it's basically unusable, like, let free users have some of the features premium users have (let users choose the music they want whenever they want, etc.) while obviously still being supported by ads. I know a lot of people who pirate their music and the only reason they don't use spotify it's because it doesn't let them choose their music without that 6 song skip limit nonsense

  • @oneverest
    @oneverest 11 дней назад

    May be I am oversimplifying, but I feel Spotify was (or even is) in a prime position to become a record company similar to Netflix and Amazon becoming a production house to ensure they are not handcuffed with large existing record companies/production houses

  • @phadungkiadfam
    @phadungkiadfam 6 дней назад

    Me as a label record. My distributor partner said “In 2024. Spotify announce that decrease revenue of all artist. effective worldwide. So i don’t hope a revenue from spotify as much. I think youtube is the one that not decrease the revenue. So this video has explanation clearly why spotify do this to all of artist.

  • @sidharthjoly
    @sidharthjoly 10 дней назад

    Checked the subs after finishing the video. Surprised it's only 7k. You deserve much more. Insane production quality.

  • @matz9605
    @matz9605 20 дней назад +1

    I expected 100k+ subs from this content. It was great, you got a new sub.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  19 дней назад

      I am very excited to have you here! Thank you for your support.

  • @NoahDaBoa
    @NoahDaBoa 21 день назад +3

    this was very interesting

  • @Kkugnbbc
    @Kkugnbbc 19 дней назад

    This is an incredibly well made video from such a small channel. Good luck man, hope you make it big.

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  19 дней назад

      Thanks a ton! Will get there one day :)

  • @alfredoguadamuz5465
    @alfredoguadamuz5465 5 дней назад

    I’ve tried everything, apple music, youtube music, prime music and i always come back to spotify

  • @mr.w7803
    @mr.w7803 13 дней назад

    Unfortunately decreasing royalties also impacts songwriters too… who make a small fraction of the artist and labels …

  • @devinmurray5280
    @devinmurray5280 2 дня назад

    I moved to Apple Music a while ago as what it offers is superior to Spotify for the same price. Lossless for no price increase is a slam dunk.

  • @sethmanford1249
    @sethmanford1249 Месяц назад +1

    excellent piece

    • @MBA-Maven
      @MBA-Maven  Месяц назад

      Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @CarlosCeballos56
    @CarlosCeballos56 7 дней назад

    The only thing that makes me pay Spotify over the others is how optimized the interface is, they even overpassed Apple