Flat earthers said I use black magic... I'll show them magic

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • Thanks to Eric for his "repeated" contributions :-D
    Flat earthers made a video reacting to my flat earth video, criticizing my portrayal of sun rays as being parallel instead of divergent, and I believe they're right.. but I don’t think they have the full picture, and I think I can clarify things.
    In this video, I’m going to walk through the differences between divergent rays and parallel rays. I’ll explain why I think these sun rays don’t disprove the globe earth model and why calling sun rays “divergent” can be incredibly misleading.
    Patreon:
    / datatime
    Flatzoid’s Reaction Video:
    • Shadow angles? Data Time
    Flat Earth Wiki:
    wiki.tfes.org/...
    Reference:
    Diameter of Sun: 1.4 million km
    Distance to Sun: 149 million km
    Angular Size of Sun on Earth: degrees(atan(1400000 / 149000000.0)) = 0.538333764394217
    Diameter of Earth: 12,756 km
    Ratio: 11,680x
    Angle: degrees(atan(12756 / 149000000.0)) = 0.0049051339710290374
    0.0049051339710290374 *3600 = 17.658482295704534 arc seconds
    0.5 / 0.0049051339710290374 = 101.93401504487473
    0.0049051339710290374 / 0.5 = 0.009810267942058075
    Thanks to Storyblocks
    Special Music Thanks:
    AM 1984

Комментарии • 56

  • @daniel_77.
    @daniel_77. 5 месяцев назад +51

    Great. Now their excuse will be "we don't even know what the sun is" 😂

  • @JeepinReefer406
    @JeepinReefer406 5 месяцев назад +19

    Great video! Let's hypothesize the Flatzoid response.
    1. He will say "so they are divergent, thank you for proving my point" completely ignoring the rest of the video.
    2. He wont respond at all.

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider 3 месяца назад +10

    The "Don't Fart" shirt mixed with the facial expressions when dude said maybe the sun doesnt exist is perfection.

  • @capq57
    @capq57 5 месяцев назад +23

    Reasoning with Fartzoid is like talking to a doorknob.

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  5 месяцев назад +11

      Really? I thought he was one of the more reasonable flat earthers. Is there another flat earther who is more reasonable that I should talk to?

    • @capq57
      @capq57 5 месяцев назад

      @@DataTime27 Some of them are passably polite, none of them are reasonable, at least none of the cult leaders. I guarantee Flatz will neither understand nor accept anything you say. He's already judged you a liar. Nothing you show will change his mind.

    • @coledrevenj
      @coledrevenj 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@DataTime27 Be careful good Sir. This group you find yourself in is very tribal, and intensely dislikes anything that does not originate from within the accepted 'box of knowledge'.

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  5 месяцев назад +11

      I've found that many of them are polite if you're polite to them. Some science people are terrible towards them and I don't think that helps the situation

    • @gamoxu
      @gamoxu 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@DataTime27They're normal polite people but they also won't change their mind even if you provide facts. There's already plenty of proof out there that they choose to ignore. They already buy into something disproven ages ago so why would they stop now.

  • @4Kilometres
    @4Kilometres 3 месяца назад +10

    These videos will be classics in due time…

  • @karatemaster1144
    @karatemaster1144 5 месяцев назад +9

    Nice to see you and your twin bro making videos again

  • @billbobhere
    @billbobhere 5 месяцев назад +10

    i have found 2 videos that show great examples of light/shadows appearing to be diverging when in fact they are parallel due to perspective
    Parallel rays in perspective by Jairo Amaral
    Parallel sunlight by Gav Downes

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  5 месяцев назад

      Oh that's awesome. Thanks

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider 3 месяца назад +4

    The distance defines the divergence.
    How?
    **Casts Cone of knowledge at point black range**
    I dont get it.
    **Takes a step back and fires again**
    Ohhhh...

  • @yashuwu09010
    @yashuwu09010 5 месяцев назад +9

    That's crazy some people still believe that earth is flat

  • @Corey_Otis
    @Corey_Otis 5 месяцев назад +4

    "The sun is elusive"😂 I see it everyday, except on cloudy days, maybe those days the architects are replacing the batteries and need to cover up what theyre doing? The flat earthers are totally unreasonable people

  • @rocknral
    @rocknral 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'd go as far to say the light from the sun is essentially Convergent considering its diameter.

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  5 месяцев назад +2

      That's true. I actually mention that it has an angular size of half a degree.

  • @IGNRyan600
    @IGNRyan600 8 дней назад +1

    Given the service area of the sun, and light emitting in all directions from every point of the sun surface would there not be a sun sized area of parallel rays emitting in all directions?

  • @TinyCaptainSailingTheGlobe
    @TinyCaptainSailingTheGlobe 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great video. To bad the flerfs will misunderstand, and claim it as a win.

  • @mikenoel3522
    @mikenoel3522 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great presentation! It's funny how they just ignore science.

  • @GabrielsLogic
    @GabrielsLogic 3 месяца назад

    Awesome video! Loved the math. Great work and physical demonstration 🪧

  • @Ben_19M
    @Ben_19M 5 месяцев назад +2

    i dont understand why these people cant just chose to not give a shit what the earth is shaped like and live the little time they have left in their lives

    • @totallynuts7595
      @totallynuts7595 2 месяца назад +2

      I find it incredible hard to believe it myself, but I dated a flat earther for a while. Her biggest problem wasn't the shape of the earth, but the spitefulness towards modern society, blaming her problems on society, and she latched unto many conspiracy theories as a result of that. I hate the greed of megacorps like Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon and the corruption in my government, but why blame them for something they didn't cause? Say, if a car hits me, I'm not blaming car manufacturers for producing cars, I'm blaming the driver if they weren't paying attention, or myself if I was at fault.

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider 3 месяца назад

    Do you have any local youtubers you could collaborate with, someone who puts together woodworking guides maybe?

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  3 месяца назад +2

      Maybe. It's something I've thought about

  • @olamideadekojo5558
    @olamideadekojo5558 5 месяцев назад +1

    "The sun is moving"
    Then they be like the sun rotates the earth.
    This people dont know what they're sayin

    • @coledrevenj
      @coledrevenj 5 месяцев назад +1

      Do you mean "the sun orbits the Earth"? lol

  • @Flux0_0-u2d
    @Flux0_0-u2d 4 месяца назад +3

    uuuuuhhh how many of you there are exactly

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  4 месяца назад +1

      🤫

    • @c.jishnu378
      @c.jishnu378 3 месяца назад

      ​@@DataTime27 Over 9 THOUSAND!!!!!

  • @CristobalOliver
    @CristobalOliver 3 месяца назад

    flat earth legos pls

  • @TheExtremeChocolate
    @TheExtremeChocolate 4 месяца назад +1

    ....HOW'D YOU FIND OUT IM WATCHING A GAME THEORY VIDEO

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  4 месяца назад +1

      Watch the default video on my channel to find out how I did it 😁

  • @justenfinch5911
    @justenfinch5911 5 месяцев назад +1

    Another fantastic video!!

  • @TheArukhar
    @TheArukhar 5 месяцев назад +1

    Be careful with flat earthers good sir

  • @nickcianciosi5580
    @nickcianciosi5580 8 дней назад

    If sun rays hitting all points on the Earth as you show in your graphic, then wouldn't all locations on earth experience 12 hour days?

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 7 дней назад

      @nickcianciosi5580
      1
      ONLY on the equinoxes.
      Which is what his first two vids about this say.
      Because of the tilt of earth's axis relative to the plane of the orbit, there are only 2 days in the year that have 12 hour days everywhere.
      Otherwise the length of the day is dependent upon your location on earth and where the sun is over the earth at any particular day.

    • @nickcianciosi5580
      @nickcianciosi5580 6 дней назад

      @@rickkwitkoski1976 I don't see how the Earths "tilt" could account for that. Even with tilt, the sun's rays still hit the rotating ball head-on don't they. That's what the graphic showed. There should be 12 hours of daylight in all places, tilt or not.

  • @thatbruh0429
    @thatbruh0429 3 месяца назад

    Your like the mr beat of science!

  • @Esloquees
    @Esloquees Месяц назад

    you are a hero Ø

  • @butwhy4579
    @butwhy4579 5 месяцев назад +3

    Don't give attention to flat earthers, the more the idea is out there the more anxiety ridden humans will attract to the idea of flat earth. Most people might be profiting from selling flat earth idea or are anxiety filled or want to have some uniqueness. I loved your other videos but i sense you are losing yourself in chasing clout. These people although have wrong ideas have about how things work shine light to various important things and make it harder for majority of people to not jump on hype train. At this point denying flat earthers of their belief would only make their belief stronger (it feels like bullying someone for their traditions like those of astrologies in beliving in cancer or aries).
    Conclusion:- Let them be as long as they don't do any harm.

    • @unknownman5090
      @unknownman5090 5 месяцев назад

      He currently focusing on trying to convince flat earther that earth isn't flat. We know their reasoning is bs most of the time but he want to play along with their rules.

    • @butwhy4579
      @butwhy4579 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@unknownman5090 isn't this just free publicity for more people who didn't knew about this topic to flock to it.

    • @DataTime27
      @DataTime27  5 месяцев назад +8

      I don't think that I'm bullying anyone. I get frustrated when I see globe earthers persecute flat earthers. But what I don't see a lot of are videos where people actually try to use the first earth model practically. I think if we actually tried to use the flat earth model we would see just how impractical it is.

    • @unknownman5090
      @unknownman5090 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@butwhy4579 Technically it is. But some stuff need to be called for awareness purpose or simply for discussion. I wouldn't call this free publicity however. Academic and belief being discussed isn't free publicity.
      For example,imagine there someone can believe in god for his whole life before meeting there atheist out there saying there is no god and give several reason. Some people might instantly belief it while some simply ignore and call it bs. But what need to be actually done is to discuss it. Then decision to believe the atheist statement or not is up to you.
      This is I like about Data Time. He never disproof stuff by saying "its science" like most people did. He give elaboration of his reason. Agree or not with him is your decision.
      Another example is "Doom is a great game" statement. For me personally, I dont enjoy doom myself. However, I have to agree that it indeed great game, it just not for me

  • @aaronkellie5785
    @aaronkellie5785 4 месяца назад

    😣 "promosm"

  • @nicolasbenincampi5488
    @nicolasbenincampi5488 4 месяца назад

    6 years late to the trend

  • @unknownman5090
    @unknownman5090 5 месяцев назад +2

    Bro, you literally use black magic called "Math" and "Science". There a reason why dark ages happen.