I do love that the oldest sister just continued to live her own life and do her own thing in the convent. Props to her for thriving after all she went through at the hands of her parents.
I can forgive some people for literally anything, depending on their childhood. Some have to be kept from society because they're a danger but I can't judge them.
I live in Hawaii. I was at work and two of the cashiers started humming the song and I was like :O I didn't think she'd be popular in the islands but she is!
I saw in another video that before they separated the sisters in prison, Christine ran towards Leah screaming "Just kiss me one more time, just one more time" and Leah was like, trying to get away from her and wouldn't. Sounds to me, with the age gap between them, Christine DEFINTIELY groomed Leah. EDIT: Upon looking it up, no Christine didn't beg Leah to kiss her, what she actually did was unbutton her blouse and begged, "Say yes, please!" 🤨
this!!!!! that's the business of the back of my head, and he doesn't have any eyes so he doesn't care anyhow!! so pls don't make it my business because i Will care but that doesn't mean i should 😭
You should do a Dark History on MIT and Quaker Oat's experimentation and poisoning of disabled children. I feel like more people should know about that.
I get the same reaction from mine. He hears me listening to all these true crime stories. Especially when we are arguing he says it makes him nervous LOL
@@brookekingsbury7264 LOL mine says the same thing. I now just wear earphones but now he says he wants to hear the stories...I'm like make up your mind.
I can understand why the two girls snapped... being abused for such a long time can mess you up. I know from experience. If my mum didnt physically stop me, I would have ended my step-fathers life. The last time he ever laid a hand on me was about to be his last. He got lucky.
Fun fact about Dr Guillotin, a physician who championed the device for executions. He actually opposed the death penalty. He thought by making execution as quick and painless as possible would be the first step towards abolishing it. He also thought it would decrease public interest in executions. He miscalculated on a rather massive level and later in life deeply regretted advocating for the device.
I basically came here to say this! Haha...May I add that even though it turned out not to be the amazing, it is still to this day viewed the most humane way to be executed, basically because of its speed and almost impossibility of messing it up.
Well the best timing ever lol. Just grabbed my phone find something and this popped up. Couldn't be anything better to watch while I wash some dishes and start supper. Yessss baily with another one
A lot of y'all are weird. Bailey is a real person with real feelings. She is a gem for giving us this series. None of us have to wallow in the thicket of disturbing images and put together a cohesive video. Give her a break. If she never comes back, I won't blame her and will only hope she's living her best healthy life.
Fun fact that I found really interesting: they were diagnosed with shared delusional disorder (also known as folie à deux), where two or more people are together so much that they can start forming the same delusion, and there's a couple different ways this can happen! In this particular case it's likely that they experienced "folee imposée" where the dominant person in the relationship (Christine) imposes a delusion that their mind has formed on another person known as the acceptor (Lea). Lea most likely did better on her own when separated from her sister because she never actually had the delusion when left to her own devices - it was only formed because Christine imposed it on her.
Just like the case of those two twins in the UK or Ireland I believe who ran out into the highway and survived and then killed people. They were completely fine when they were living in different countries but as soon as they got together they both had delusions. I hope Bailey does that story at some point!
FUN FACT: when people are lined up for the guillotine, people would fight over who would go first because the more the blade was used, the duller it got and that MEANSSS it would be harder to chop a head off and would take lots of tries
This is such a sad and messed up story. If the oldest sister was abused then I wouldn't be surprised if Christine had also been abused, which in turn led to what happened with her sister Lea. Love your stories! Also, you should get merch! You have so many fantastic moments and phrases that would be great to have!
The fact that they were 8 yrs apart and there was an “incestuous relationship for years” and Lea was only 21 when it all went down means it was actually child abuse…
Yeah that's what makes it hard for me to root for them. At least the older sister. I get the abuse and what abuse can do to children, but the younger sister is definitely the victim here, she was abused just like her sister, but also by her sister...
I was like kind of understanding their relationship (like Bailey said, they only had each other and blah blah blah), but after hearing that bit I was like ??? This is NOT ok. Poor Lea...
This is what makes me think that the dad was molesting her too. Just got caught with the other one instead of her. Not an excuse of course, but I think explains why she would prey on her sister.
Actually, this case is one of the first recorded case of "folie à deux" "madness at two" where a dominant personality (Christine) has a control over a dominated personality (Léa), whom they protect at all cost, in exchange they feel emboldened by the complete authority they have over the dominated personality, whom is so blinded that they don't know (and sometimes don't want to) get out of the relationship. And yes, I'm from Le Mans, it is still the most infamous criminal case
Folie imposée Where a dominant person (known as the 'primary', 'inducer' or 'principal') initially forms a delusional belief during a psychotic episode and imposes it on another person or persons (the 'secondary', 'acceptor', or 'associate') with the assumption that the secondary person might not have become deluded if left to his or her own devices. If the parties are admitted to hospital separately, then the delusions in the person with the induced beliefs usually resolve without the need of medication.
@@tacobell1299 True! But it could be plausible in some twisted fate because there are some kiddos out there that are capable of doing heinous things. 😩
@@tacobell1299 erm... many true crime cases so the least likely, tend to be the more sinister and clever in the pairing, just one of many examples would be, Karla Homolka
@@tacobell1299 age doesn’t always mean you know better tho. There’s you g kids who know more than their older siblings so it’s not too hard to believe if it were true.
I'm the exact SAME! I'll also ask a person their name, while looking them dead in the eye...next time I see them.." what's your name again, sorry I forgot " 😆 🤣 You can bet that I'll never forget their face though 😉 smh. Sometimes I can't even pronounce a person's name no matter how matter times you tell me 🙃🤪
Honestly, I think Christine groomed and manipulated Lea. They were 6 years apart in age. I've read a bit on this case before this video. Hearing you tell it is amazing. But yes. Christine was the mastermind.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. It's possible the dad also abused Christine and/or Lea. CSA victims sexually abuse other children sometimes, like younger siblings, it definitely seems like a coercive situation rather than a "lover" situation.
Their lives began with their father molesting them, for which they were put into a strict orphanage. Then they were abused as servants/modern slaves. And then, very “unexpectadly”, they just snapped… Sure, many people lived a life like that without “snapping”, but to be honest, that’s what amazes me more than someone who actually goes crazy for being abused the whole life. Which does not apologize their behavior, it’s just that they did not have the best of chances for a decent life 🙄🙄. And this all happened not even a hundred years ago in the “civilized” world of France, so what goes in the other parts of the world till today is hard to even imagine…
Not sure if you already have, but i feel like you would have a great compilation of stories about Princess Anastasia, her family, and the infamous Rasputin
See I find the giggling AMAZING... lol as a nurse I have quite the dark humor side.. I hate that she has to apologize for laughing.. it's just 'in' some of us to find that funny
it's crazy how the sisters all went through a different path, i wonder if amelia would've turned out like christine and lea if she hadn't been through everything - it's always nice to see a french case be talked out, so thank you bailey !
The radium girls were mentioned in my chemistry class the other day, some weeks after i watched your video. You’re really beating the schools to it Bailey! 💕
As a nurse with a very dark humor side (gotta have it) I hate that Bailey has to apologize for laughing.. sometimes it's just in us to giggle at bad things
Can we get more of these again @baileysarian? I love the Dark History videos, but MMM Mondays are what initially turned me on to your videos. I miss them so much! 😭💔
The rules where servants couldn't speak out were not uncommon during this era, and the working hours were very cruel, since they had to work from before breakfast service to after dinner. But it's very interesting that they didn't attempt to flee, or even steal anything. To me it just shows how tied to their jobs they were, there's was nowhere they could go. Thanks for sharing Bailey!
This is also why rich kids were taught "table manners". The purpose of the strict rules about cutlery was (still is!) so rich people didn't have to say a word to someone beneath them. They can express stuff like "I've finished my plate/ I didn't like the salad/ I'm ready for dessert" etc withouth even looking at the servants.
@@cutelatina00508 the fact that this still exists is astounding, I’ve heard stories online from restaurant workers that have fealty with this behaviour from the super wealthy
The fact that Lea didn't say anything during her trial kinda tells you that she was a victim. I mean come on, she was so young when their relationship started and Christine had been around incestuous relationships before. It just seems really suspicious to me that it was almost all Christine.
Fun fact about the guillotine!!! If there were many beheadings in one day the blade would become dull by basically the third person, so the people who were going to be beheaded actually fought to be the first in line so that it was one swift slice and not many because if it didn’t go all the way through they would have to redo it until full beheading happened 😌
Another fun fact: being first didn't necessarily do you many favors either, since if you were successfully sliced quickly, your head would stay conscious for a few seconds AFTER it fell into the basket -- people present would shout your name right after you dropped to try to make your eyes look at them.... which they often would. 😳
My grandmother was "given" to a wealthy family at age 10 to be a housekeeper. My great-grandparents were very, very poor and they had many more children than they could raise. Bailey is right-- you could do whatever you wanted with your kids in the early part of the 20th century.
Facts. My great-great grandmother was given to a family as a domestic worker when she was a girl and then as a teenager was given to a man who wanted a wife. So gross.
it’s still happening today too! my mother was sold to a man when she was 13 to get married. they were together for a year until my mom ran away and met my father.
I'm sad you haven't done a MMMM in 3 months. Are you ever going to return? 🥺 if you don't I understand. This stuff can be quite mind altering. Stay safe Bailey. Still have so much love and respect for you. Xoxo. ❤
@@twistedbambi2370 sha na sha sha na sha sha na sha sha sha na shaaaaaa. I agree. But also I have watched a few dark history episodes. I did love the cannabis one. It taught me so much. But I just was also learning a lot with makeup due to her as well which helps me teach my daughter tips and tricks.
Coming from a psychology perspective I think it's interesting to consider the concept of nature Vs nurture here. The oldest sister was removed from the family and placed in a nurturing environment and actually thrived there from what we know of, the sisters who remained in the care of their mother then went on to be held in multiple abusive homes became killers. I actually feel sorry for the girls.
I think Christine may have taken the fall: She told Lea to keep her mouth shut, and then weaved a story that implicated herself way more than her sister. Maybe it was an act of love?
Everything about eyes creeps me out, so to hear that in this story the mother's and daughter's eyes were clawed out just makes me shiver and get squeamish. Just so gross!
Bailey…when are you coming back with MMMMs? I miss you so much! I really honor the fact that you are struggling. My own struggle with depression is something I am dealing with right now, as are all of my personal relationships. I just miss the tradition of sitting down with you on Mondays with a glass of wine and indulging in this safe space you’ve created for all us curious cats. Are you okay? We miss you. If you are not okay, please be mindful and practice positive self-care. It’s okay if you never post again, but know that you are missed. Much love and well wishes.
I LOVE that she tells these stories as if she knew these people or heard it from someone who did know these people! She's a brilliant storyteller to say the least!
Bailey: They were only allowed to talk to each other and they only had each other. Me: “yeah they had shared trauma and bonded” Bailey: “yeah they probably banged” 🤣💀
I wonder if the relationship wasn’t a mutual relationship with the sisters, and really Christine abusing her sister. It definitely seems like she was the puppet master, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she manipulated her sister entirely.
I think regardless if it was mutual in the end it was definitely not in the beginning. I mean the relationship started when the younger was a young teenager. That 6 year age difference definitely held power a imbalance. I can’t see how it wasn’t abusive.
Its like she knew, i was so conscious about *not* singing the theme song this time around, and then she says "i know you miss the theme song, but if you shanasha me, i will shanasha u right back" and i just-😭♥️
They weren't that far apart in age, but I know what you're getting at. And you don't even have to have a huge age gap to have grooming take place. It's more about state of mind and vulnerability. The power dynamics between older and younger siblings is very real and often very strong.
@@ShyOne1031 it's a movie but it's in great detail so you learn a lot about the history of the sisters and what they went through so I would say it's like a documentary as well about history of their lives. But the movie is like 2 hours or 3 hours long. Definitely enough in there.
I’ve been researching a case that’s very haunting to me, about Judith Barsi. Could you do a video telling her story? I was hoping you already had one bc I don’t wanna anyone but you tell this story😭
Speaking of guillotine, I learned in college history, it was never just an easy swoop and the head came off. Often times, they had to apply extra pressure to the blade for it to work. It was brutal and gruesome. 😬
I cannot even begin to express how hard I laughed at Bailey's reaction to her eyeliner. It made my day! It's so wonderful to see Bailey be so human and be able to be herself around us! ❤️
Being a middle class servent, even if treated well by their standards, was terrible because there was ALL chores for only a couple of people, so hours were insane.
I was going to say - life lesson is to treat people with kindness so they don't snap and do terrible things - did not even think about the insane hours and I don't think there is much you can do about that.
When more women were working outside of domestic services, a lot of women preferred factories even, saying that although the work and hours were hard at least when you clocked out you were your own person.
@@mariafox9226 yas! Today it's unbearable hours for "benefits". Nah! Always take a job w/good hours & a salary first, because bonuses, lunches, and all "perks" aren't part of the contract... Only hours and salary ❤️
Be careful Bailey. Don't let your new producers get rid of what makes you, you and makes you fun because you're just like the rest of us. Silly and prone to ridiculousness!
I feel like all her original fans have really noticed how much she seems to hold back on her awesome quirkiness lately, but that was part of the reason we love her so much. Don't change because you feel like you have to Bailey, f those producers xD
Worry not of the theme song. Long time fans enjoy the nostalgia, while new fans have a reason to explore previous vids. Let us continue with the exploration.
Love your videos! Been watching them none stop for like over a month. Perfect thing to watch with a torn meniscus & having to stay in 😂❤ You should talk about Israel Keyes next! That'd be so cool!
Interesting idea, given they attacked the two women's eyes. What if the mother was mad ofc cause 'wow lazy' but the mother and daughter walked in on them doing not sister things? Then the attacked happened, the eye gouging happens as if to either erase what they saw or punish them for seeing it? Then seeing how helpless they are decided to torture them as revenge for their suffering. That could just be my speculation tho, it just seems oddly specific that they'd go for the eyes.
I used to watch Sailor Moon with my six-year-old and now (no matter how many times I correct her) she calls you Sailor Barian. 😂😂 We love watching some Sailor Barian in this house!
I find myself using her attitude with “suspish” and “oh naynay” and my personal fav “ya nasties!” Lol. I work in maintenance dealing with construction and a LOT of sewer pipes so naynay and ya nasties get said a lot 😂
@@emilyellisemilyellis I’m French and I can definitely say that is perfect word for word translation of the very French « je vais les massacrer » which is something we still say ( luckily it does not always end up as an actual slaughter)
I had this teacher in history who would teach us lessons but in a way that made us understand. He was my favorite teacher because he could teach us instead of just reading from the books. Bailey reminds me why I loved history so much she truly has a talent when telling these stories and I love her! ❤
For anyone who enjoyed that case, I would recommend checking out Jean Genet’s The Maids, a play inspired by the case! It is really great as a work of art by itself but talks a lot about the class divide/isolation of the girls etc
I think this case is what we call a "folie à deux". And also Bailey, I just looove the way you pronounce french names. I am french and it sounds so funny
Has she done Jayne Mansfield? Jayne got in to the occult, through Satanist, Anton Lavey, whom believe she’d dated. Well , supposedly he placed a curse on her boyfriend or something like that. Well, lo and behold she’s the one that turned up dead soon after. 😬 AND apparently, she haunted her pink house, etc. Y’all have got to check her story out if you haven’t already!
I love how she brings in tasteful humor to lighten her videos. Regardless of what people want to say about humor in case videos, Im a “if I dont laugh, I’ll cry” kind of person so humor helps me get through cases that are sad.
honestly i can understand finally snapping after being abused for your whole life and being forced to constantly suppress your anger at the mistreatment. i'm surprised it didn't happen more often in times like these where groups of people had absolutely no rights.
It’s great to seeing her happy and less stressed. Sounds like people are being negative on every little thing. GET A LIFE - People. Bailey don’t let this people get to you. I’m a big fan. You always make laugh.
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Thank you so much! It’s perfect I needed a new phone case ❤️
Your the best!!!
Thank you for your Monday gifts to us!! 🧡
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I love you Bailey!
I do love that the oldest sister just continued to live her own life and do her own thing in the convent. Props to her for thriving after all she went through at the hands of her parents.
The older sister died of starvation, it was the younger sister that was able to move on without her older sisters manipulation.
@@vanillathunder11559 I think they meant the oldest. Amelia became a nun
I can forgive some people for literally anything, depending on their childhood. Some have to be kept from society because they're a danger but I can't judge them.
@@LordFarquad-_-Christine is the oldest
@@vanillathunder1155933:10 Amelia was the oldest
Most people: if I could travel back I time I would see the dinosaurs.
Bailey: I’d like to see a beheading. 😄
Plenty of cartel videos for that. Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Girl same 😂 or send me back to age of the Vikings. I need some rough loving
Children used to be dismissed from school to witness beheadings along but the rest of the general public. Crazy
@@kdholden Jesus that's insane , no wonder why and how and from where we carry so much freaking trauma smh
Don't worry, song plays in my head after your intro. Burned into my brain, find myself singing it randomly as well.
I live in Hawaii. I was at work and two of the cashiers started humming the song and I was like :O I didn't think she'd be popular in the islands but she is!
Song plays in my head as well. My daughter (8) would run into the room just for the theme song then run back out
I also noticed it sounds like the song from the "Bayou" level on the mobile game Abradoodle Bingo. My brain can't handle it.
Me too 🥰🥰
Me too .. it's so funny
I saw in another video that before they separated the sisters in prison, Christine ran towards Leah screaming "Just kiss me one more time, just one more time" and Leah was like, trying to get away from her and wouldn't. Sounds to me, with the age gap between them, Christine DEFINTIELY groomed Leah.
EDIT: Upon looking it up, no Christine didn't beg Leah to kiss her, what she actually did was unbutton her blouse and begged, "Say yes, please!" 🤨
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What???!!!! Geez 😳
My favorite quote I’ve ever heard about hair is, “Don’t tell me how the back of my hair looks; that’s none of my business.”😂😂😂
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I love this too. 😂😂
this!!!!! that's the business of the back of my head, and he doesn't have any eyes so he doesn't care anyhow!! so pls don't make it my business because i Will care but that doesn't mean i should 😭
You should do a Dark History on MIT and Quaker Oat's experimentation and poisoning of disabled children. I feel like more people should know about that.
New hyperfixation unlocked 🔓
Wait what
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Huh????
for realz? that's ligit? what you talkin' 'bout Willis? I am on the hunt! come on Miss Bailey, I'm looking forward to this. bring it.
My husband walked in right as you said “There was another set of eyeballs on the stairs” I think he’s afraid of me 😂
I get the same reaction from mine. He hears me listening to all these true crime stories. Especially when we are arguing he says it makes him nervous LOL
What!? 😂 Mine listens with me sometimes, haha
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@@brookekingsbury7264 LOL mine says the same thing. I now just wear earphones but now he says he wants to hear the stories...I'm like make up your mind.
I fall asleep to these videos, when I need me time from the kids, I'm binging these videos lol
I can understand why the two girls snapped... being abused for such a long time can mess you up. I know from experience. If my mum didnt physically stop me, I would have ended my step-fathers life. The last time he ever laid a hand on me was about to be his last. He got lucky.
So sorry you had to go through all of that. Hope you are doing well.
Hope you’re in a better place
Reactive Abuse is very real.
Yeah. Abuse, slavery. I'm sure that would make anyone go mad. Even years down the line. Decades
Same I can understand that too because I was also abused at a young age
Fun fact about Dr Guillotin, a physician who championed the device for executions. He actually opposed the death penalty. He thought by making execution as quick and painless as possible would be the first step towards abolishing it. He also thought it would decrease public interest in executions. He miscalculated on a rather massive level and later in life deeply regretted advocating for the device.
I basically came here to say this! Haha...May I add that even though it turned out not to be the amazing, it is still to this day viewed the most humane way to be executed, basically because of its speed and almost impossibility of messing it up.
France used his brutal device until the 70s
Well the best timing ever lol. Just grabbed my phone find something and this popped up. Couldn't be anything better to watch while I wash some dishes and start supper. Yessss baily with another one
Giiiiiiirl same 🤓🥰❤️🔥
Me tooo🥰
Same
Ugh me too
I love this
What are y’all making ? 🤤
"Their eyes were, indeed, snatched." A sentence that should not bring on the giggles, and yet, it's Bailey soooooo xD
Snatched, plucked, gorged, removed
I laughed so incredibly hard when she said that. Her delivery is so hilarious.
Right! So gross and gruesome and yet it’s funny. 🤣🤣😳
Sounds like a line from rupaul 😂
I just can't stop thinking about how easy it is or isn't to pluck out an eyeball. Lol
A lot of y'all are weird. Bailey is a real person with real feelings. She is a gem for giving us this series. None of us have to wallow in the thicket of disturbing images and put together a cohesive video. Give her a break. If she never comes back, I won't blame her and will only hope she's living her best healthy life.
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@@maeleyhuffman6817 she split with her long time partner and has been going through a hard timr
Fun fact that I found really interesting: they were diagnosed with shared delusional disorder (also known as folie à deux), where two or more people are together so much that they can start forming the same delusion, and there's a couple different ways this can happen! In this particular case it's likely that they experienced "folee imposée" where the dominant person in the relationship (Christine) imposes a delusion that their mind has formed on another person known as the acceptor (Lea). Lea most likely did better on her own when separated from her sister because she never actually had the delusion when left to her own devices - it was only formed because Christine imposed it on her.
Wow that’s just fascinating!
Just like the case of those two twins in the UK or Ireland I believe who ran out into the highway and survived and then killed people. They were completely fine when they were living in different countries but as soon as they got together they both had delusions. I hope Bailey does that story at some point!
Thank you so much for including this info! So interesting to think about how they might have grown up if separate.
Where they government projects?
@@brittanyjo826 Makes you wonder doesn't it 🤔?????
Bailey acting like we aren’t all “shana shaaa shanna shanning” in our bathrooms as we watch and get ready 😂💜
That’s so me 😂
where did it go- TvT
Me as I’m applying my Laura mercier powder on my cheekbones 😂😂
I sing it along on my own every time lol
Why isn't she doing it anymore? I loved it haha
bailey: "they really liked her, she recommended her sister"
me: *gets "parasite" flashbacks*
that is a great movie 😍
I loved that movie
I haven't seen that movie! I thought maybe, but the cover made me like, "hmm, maybe for when in feeling more intense". Maybe I'll give it a go!
@@SamanthaMagdalena you should! You won't regret it
i just watched that movie like 3 days ago!
When Bailey is showing us her representation of the sisters fighting 😂😂😂was way too funny .
I feel like Bailey thought everything was going wrong for her today, with the liner, the mirror, but I love the realness! ☺️
She pulled it off wonderfully though, didn't she?
@@karenmattox7213 ilíp pp
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Absolutely 💯 % 😀
Bailey - "I hope you're having a wonderful day."
Me at 5 am with insomnia - "
👁👄👁"
Yup saMe here lol 😂
Same girl 4.41
Meeeee !!
Gurlll same!
SAME
FUN FACT: when people are lined up for the guillotine, people would fight over who would go first because the more the blade was used, the duller it got and that MEANSSS it would be harder to chop a head off and would take lots of tries
Geez
Not so fun but thank you for the fact
jeez how did that became a FUN fact
You are sick
Wow!!
This is such a sad and messed up story. If the oldest sister was abused then I wouldn't be surprised if Christine had also been abused, which in turn led to what happened with her sister Lea. Love your stories! Also, you should get merch! You have so many fantastic moments and phrases that would be great to have!
She has tons of merch!!! Go to her page she changes it up from time to time/gets new stuff
Bailey: “i know, i know you all miss the theme song”
Me, who paused the video to do the theme song myself: “…i feel called out😂”
Why doesn’t she do it anymore?
I hummed it
Why did she stop doing it?
@@numecat8812 she said she just doesn’t feel like it anymore
Same! I didn’t pause it but immediately started 😂
The fact that they were 8 yrs apart and there was an “incestuous relationship for years” and Lea was only 21 when it all went down means it was actually child abuse…
Yeah that's what makes it hard for me to root for them. At least the older sister. I get the abuse and what abuse can do to children, but the younger sister is definitely the victim here, she was abused just like her sister, but also by her sister...
I was like kind of understanding their relationship (like Bailey said, they only had each other and blah blah blah), but after hearing that bit I was like ??? This is NOT ok. Poor Lea...
@@milenamori7303 yeah if u dial it back to when Christine was 18 at the oldest Lea woulda been 11. It’s pretty sick…
16/17 wasn't considered a child back then. Still a sick story.
This is what makes me think that the dad was molesting her too. Just got caught with the other one instead of her. Not an excuse of course, but I think explains why she would prey on her sister.
Actually, this case is one of the first recorded case of "folie à deux" "madness at two" where a dominant personality (Christine) has a control over a dominated personality (Léa), whom they protect at all cost, in exchange they feel emboldened by the complete authority they have over the dominated personality, whom is so blinded that they don't know (and sometimes don't want to) get out of the relationship.
And yes, I'm from Le Mans, it is still the most infamous criminal case
Very interesting. Seems they never had a happy life. All those kids.
Wow! Very interesting concept
Yes! Mr. Ballen has spoken about it a few times on his channel. Very interesting
Thanks. First one I heard was a case which has turned in to a movie: Heavenly Creatures. And book, which other one wrote, if I remember right.
Folie imposée
Where a dominant person (known as the 'primary', 'inducer' or 'principal') initially forms a delusional belief during a psychotic episode and imposes it on another person or persons (the 'secondary', 'acceptor', or 'associate') with the assumption that the secondary person might not have become deluded if left to his or her own devices. If the parties are admitted to hospital separately, then the delusions in the person with the induced beliefs usually resolve without the need of medication.
The way that liner made your eyes look SO different is wild
Freakin makeup man, so cool
I've heard this case before but never has anyone talked about the sisters upbringing! It completely changed my perspective on it. Go head girl!
You should watch Obsolete Oddity's video on the Papin sisters
“If you Shana Sha me in person, Ima Shana Sha right back” Goofy Bailey 😂
Imagine Lea was actually the puppetmaster and thats why Christine went insane without her and Lea was okay without her LOL
Yeah but Lea was younger. Christine was older so she should of known better. Like WAY older
@@tacobell1299 True! But it could be plausible in some twisted fate because there are some kiddos out there that are capable of doing heinous things. 😩
Plot twist! Entirely plausible, though.
@@tacobell1299 erm... many true crime cases so the least likely, tend to be the more sinister and clever in the pairing, just one of many examples would be, Karla Homolka
@@tacobell1299 age doesn’t always mean you know better tho. There’s you g kids who know more than their older siblings so it’s not too hard to believe if it were true.
We miss our MMM Mondays! 💕 Hope you’re doing well, but we all love and miss you!
Did she say that she was stopping MMM mondays?
@@sarahbutz5479 nnooooooo this makes me sad if it's true! 😭
@@bernicemakeupartist8257 she has said on Instagram that she was starting back in July. Maybe next week??
I need MMM back in my life!!!
🥺I miss them so much I’ve started re-watching them☺️
Bailey misspronouncing “words” whilst saying she is bad at words is the most Bailey thing ever 🤣😍
Wouldn’t have it any other way 😂🤣🌹
I'm the exact SAME! I'll also ask a person their name, while looking them dead in the eye...next time I see them.." what's your name again, sorry I forgot " 😆 🤣 You can bet that I'll never forget their face though 😉 smh. Sometimes I can't even pronounce a person's name no matter how matter times you tell me 🙃🤪
Absolutely... Love it... Lol absolutely adore Bailey... :)
And yet she didn’t mess up the French words 😂
One of my favorite Bailey moments ever😂❤
Honestly, I think Christine groomed and manipulated Lea. They were 6 years apart in age. I've read a bit on this case before this video. Hearing you tell it is amazing. But yes. Christine was the mastermind.
I agree. I watched the movie and thought the same. Lea seemed... special needs in a way.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. It's possible the dad also abused Christine and/or Lea. CSA victims sexually abuse other children sometimes, like younger siblings, it definitely seems like a coercive situation rather than a "lover" situation.
That’s what I thought too!
@@lavoixdevelours What movie is it you watched?
@@RaionOwO “murderous maids” year 2000
You kind of can't blame the sisters for snapping, but that was still overboard. Also, I'm surprised that they didn't try to run away.
yeah i was surprised about that too!
Their lives began with their father molesting them, for which they were put into a strict orphanage. Then they were abused as servants/modern slaves. And then, very “unexpectadly”, they just snapped…
Sure, many people lived a life like that without “snapping”, but to be honest, that’s what amazes me more than someone who actually goes crazy for being abused the whole life. Which does not apologize their behavior, it’s just that they did not have the best of chances for a decent life 🙄🙄.
And this all happened not even a hundred years ago in the “civilized” world of France, so what goes in the other parts of the world till today is hard to even imagine…
@@zuzanaxyz8866 he molested the oldest
Not sure if you already have, but i feel like you would have a great compilation of stories about Princess Anastasia, her family, and the infamous Rasputin
I know this a serious and dark story. But the way she was fighting the air had me giggling!
Lol!!! Me too 🤣 I love her 💖
See I find the giggling AMAZING... lol as a nurse I have quite the dark humor side.. I hate that she has to apologize for laughing.. it's just 'in' some of us to find that funny
I was trying so hard not to laugh but failed miserably 🤣😂🤣
@@aliciaschilling3817 I'm a nurse also an I agree, we laugh at dark stuff! Love you Bailey!!
it's crazy how the sisters all went through a different path, i wonder if amelia would've turned out like christine and lea if she hadn't been through everything - it's always nice to see a french case be talked out, so thank you bailey !
The radium girls were mentioned in my chemistry class the other day, some weeks after i watched your video. You’re really beating the schools to it Bailey! 💕
What a paradox, the eldest sister became a nun and the other sisters became psychopaths 😬
Goes to show, though, how our environment can change us. Nature vs nurture, ya know?
You're right, they don't. But you understand what I mean when I say "nature vs. nurture."@@mariaritajane6825
abuse
Literally at around 33:10 I was like “What ever happened to Amelia?” And Bailey was like “Remember Amelia the other sister?”
I thought she said older lol I was so confused on that part
Best friend - “Hey, Bailey just posted-…”
Me - “SHA NA SHA, SHA NA SHA!!!”
Love u Bailey!!!
Keep the sha na shah alive!!❤️❤️❤️
Same asf
I started singing it too. Eff it... We can shanashaaa our own selves. 😂😂
@@amberbowens430 same
I totally cracked up when she said if we see her out and about and sing the Sha Na Sha song, that she would sing it back! ❤️it…
As a nurse with a very dark humor side (gotta have it) I hate that Bailey has to apologize for laughing.. sometimes it's just in us to giggle at bad things
Or maybe you're demonic and desensitized
Agreed, i was a nurse and sometimes it is how some people handle their emotions
Fr tho I be the type of person who giggles in awkward and uncomfortable situations
Eh, if it was a dark humor joke then yeah but nothing about the cases cause for a “giggle” tbh…I love Bailey but I think it’s very inconsiderate.
apologies are unnecessary. All of this stuff has some dark humor. love you bailey ❤️
Can we get more of these again @baileysarian? I love the Dark History videos, but MMM Mondays are what initially turned me on to your videos. I miss them so much! 😭💔
The rules where servants couldn't speak out were not uncommon during this era, and the working hours were very cruel, since they had to work from before breakfast service to after dinner. But it's very interesting that they didn't attempt to flee, or even steal anything. To me it just shows how tied to their jobs they were, there's was nowhere they could go. Thanks for sharing Bailey!
This is also why rich kids were taught "table manners".
The purpose of the strict rules about cutlery was (still is!) so rich people didn't have to say a word to someone beneath them.
They can express stuff like "I've finished my plate/ I didn't like the salad/ I'm ready for dessert" etc withouth even looking at the servants.
@@cutelatina00508 the fact that this still exists is astounding, I’ve heard stories online from restaurant workers that have fealty with this behaviour from the super wealthy
I servant without a reference was unhireable
The fact that Lea didn't say anything during her trial kinda tells you that she was a victim. I mean come on, she was so young when their relationship started and Christine had been around incestuous relationships before. It just seems really suspicious to me that it was almost all Christine.
Yes! That's exactly what I thought!
The sisters look like twins, if you hadn't mentioned the age difference I would have said they were twins. Lol. Those family genes were working!
I always thought they were!
No
Missing this series too much 😭😭😭 I can imagine all the research to be overwhelming at times , physically and energetically 🔥✨
Bailey, I'm working 20.5 hours today. You just gave me a moment to breathe and self care. Thank you always for making our days better!
whattt where do u work
Yeah I wanna know too ha, stay strong!
Isn't that illegal ❓
Do you happen to be a nurse? Just a guess. I hope you’re getting some rest ❤️🩹
@@MeowMeow202 Oh PUK sorry bout that you's Work so Hard Mochie💋 Mochie 💋 Mochie We ❤️💛💚 You's ✌️😎
Fun fact about the guillotine!!! If there were many beheadings in one day the blade would become dull by basically the third person, so the people who were going to be beheaded actually fought to be the first in line so that it was one swift slice and not many because if it didn’t go all the way through they would have to redo it until full beheading happened 😌
Wild times 😳
Wow. This is horrifying. 😭
YIKES!
Another fun fact: being first didn't necessarily do you many favors either, since if you were successfully sliced quickly, your head would stay conscious for a few seconds AFTER it fell into the basket -- people present would shout your name right after you dropped to try to make your eyes look at them.... which they often would. 😳
that's just more horrific than I can even fathom...
My grandmother was "given" to a wealthy family at age 10 to be a housekeeper. My great-grandparents were very, very poor and they had many more children than they could raise. Bailey is right-- you could do whatever you wanted with your kids in the early part of the 20th century.
Animal abuse laws were enacted before child abuse.
Facts. My great-great grandmother was given to a family as a domestic worker when she was a girl and then as a teenager was given to a man who wanted a wife. So gross.
Yepp, happened to my grandma as well.
My grandmother was 13 when her parents traded her to a 45 year old man to be his wife for a mule
it’s still happening today too! my mother was sold to a man when she was 13 to get married. they were together for a year until my mom ran away and met my father.
I'm sad you haven't done a MMMM in 3 months. Are you ever going to return? 🥺 if you don't I understand. This stuff can be quite mind altering. Stay safe Bailey. Still have so much love and respect for you. Xoxo. ❤
SAME !!
I literally got on here to ask the same thing
Sames 😔
Is dark history less impacting though? 🤔
But yes, we all miss her! And we also need our theme song back!
@@twistedbambi2370 sha na sha sha na sha sha na sha sha sha na shaaaaaa.
I agree. But also I have watched a few dark history episodes. I did love the cannabis one. It taught me so much. But I just was also learning a lot with makeup due to her as well which helps me teach my daughter tips and tricks.
Coming from a psychology perspective I think it's interesting to consider the concept of nature Vs nurture here. The oldest sister was removed from the family and placed in a nurturing environment and actually thrived there from what we know of, the sisters who remained in the care of their mother then went on to be held in multiple abusive homes became killers. I actually feel sorry for the girls.
Hi I’m a psychology student too, we recently covered the nature vs nurture debate and I agree with u
As do I... the girls had no chance
I think Christine may have taken the fall: She told Lea to keep her mouth shut, and then weaved a story that implicated herself way more than her sister. Maybe it was an act of love?
i think so too, for all we know it could be lea who attacked first and christine came to help her later
I think so too, it seems like christine wanted her sister to get off easier than her..
ooh... interesting
Everything about eyes creeps me out, so to hear that in this story the mother's and daughter's eyes were clawed out just makes me shiver and get squeamish. Just so gross!
Yeah and alive while this was happening 😵💫
Me too! I'm kinda creeped out when Bailey mentioned about the eye gouging 🤮😳
Made me laugh🤣 such a rando thing to be squeamish about lol just everything about eyes
Bailey…when are you coming back with MMMMs? I miss you so much! I really honor the fact that you are struggling. My own struggle with depression is something I am dealing with right now, as are all of my personal relationships. I just miss the tradition of sitting down with you on Mondays with a glass of wine and indulging in this safe space you’ve created for all us curious cats. Are you okay? We miss you. If you are not okay, please be mindful and practice positive self-care. It’s okay if you never post again, but know that you are missed. Much love and well wishes.
@Christa Freas she's coming back on September 12 for her MMMM
I LOVE that she tells these stories as if she knew these people or heard it from someone who did know these people! She's a brilliant storyteller to say the least!
Bailey: They were only allowed to talk to each other and they only had each other.
Me: “yeah they had shared trauma and bonded”
Bailey: “yeah they probably banged”
🤣💀
I wonder if the relationship wasn’t a mutual relationship with the sisters, and really Christine abusing her sister. It definitely seems like she was the puppet master, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she manipulated her sister entirely.
I think regardless if it was mutual in the end it was definitely not in the beginning. I mean the relationship started when the younger was a young teenager. That 6 year age difference definitely held power a imbalance. I can’t see how it wasn’t abusive.
you should talk about Junko Furuta one day!! really dark case and very sad. she deserves to be known about
Its like she knew, i was so conscious about *not* singing the theme song this time around, and then she says "i know you miss the theme song, but if you shanasha me, i will shanasha u right back" and i just-😭♥️
The younger one was 6 years younger than the other and only 16 when this happened, so I really wouldn't be shocked if she was groomed and manipulated.
The younger was 22 when this happened.
They weren't that far apart in age, but I know what you're getting at. And you don't even have to have a huge age gap to have grooming take place. It's more about state of mind and vulnerability. The power dynamics between older and younger siblings is very real and often very strong.
"Sister, My Sister" is a well done, super creepy movie about this whole thing.
Oooh ima look this up!!
Amazing movie I watched it I think Two years ago. It was on Hulu or prime video.☺️
@@mariahhutton5283 is it a documentary or movie movie? I love documentaries!
I knew it!! The whole time I was watching this episode I was thinking this sounded like “Sister, My Sister!”
@@ShyOne1031 it's a movie but it's in great detail so you learn a lot about the history of the sisters and what they went through so I would say it's like a documentary as well about history of their lives. But the movie is like 2 hours or 3 hours long. Definitely enough in there.
I’ve been researching a case that’s very haunting to me, about Judith Barsi. Could you do a video telling her story? I was hoping you already had one bc I don’t wanna anyone but you tell this story😭
Speaking of guillotine, I learned in college history, it was never just an easy swoop and the head came off. Often times, they had to apply extra pressure to the blade for it to work. It was brutal and gruesome. 😬
Ah… yikes
Sounds like they should have added more weight to it then, no?
OOF.
@@alleycat616 probably so, but I obviously can't attest for the thought process of execution during the middle ages lol
Ew ew EWWWWWWW
Bailey: Their eyes were removed
My TikTok brain: Her arms were cut off her legs were cut off her ears were cut off her tongue was cut off
I hear the same thing when I listen to true crime stories 😂
i literally just tthought the same xD
😭😭😭
I want to like this but I prefer the 420 thumbs up
Her eyebrows were then, waxed 🤣🤣🤣
I cannot even begin to express how hard I laughed at Bailey's reaction to her eyeliner. It made my day! It's so wonderful to see Bailey be so human and be able to be herself around us! ❤️
Only Bailey can make me sit through her entire sponsor into and make me still love it as much as the rest of the video
Being a middle class servent, even if treated well by their standards, was terrible because there was ALL chores for only a couple of people, so hours were insane.
I was going to say - life lesson is to treat people with kindness so they don't snap and do terrible things - did not even think about the insane hours and I don't think there is much you can do about that.
When more women were working outside of domestic services, a lot of women preferred factories even, saying that although the work and hours were hard at least when you clocked out you were your own person.
It’s like what young Indiana Jones’ tutor said when it came to slavery, “I think that slaves would prefer freedom no matter how nice the roof is.”
@@mariafox9226 yas!
Today it's unbearable hours for "benefits". Nah! Always take a job w/good hours & a salary first, because bonuses, lunches, and all "perks" aren't part of the contract... Only hours and salary ❤️
@@BebbaDubbs I JUST started getting 40hrs a week recently because I transferred departments. And I’ve been at my store for 5yrs.
Be careful Bailey. Don't let your new producers get rid of what makes you, you and makes you fun because you're just like the rest of us. Silly and prone to ridiculousness!
this is how i feel!
@@thesweetestcorn She has producers?
Is this why there has been no mmm in three months?
@@twistedbambi2370 Same question :(
I feel like all her original fans have really noticed how much she seems to hold back on her awesome quirkiness lately, but that was part of the reason we love her so much. Don't change because you feel like you have to Bailey, f those producers xD
Worry not of the theme song. Long time fans enjoy the nostalgia, while new fans have a reason to explore previous vids.
Let us continue with the exploration.
i love this comment
Love your videos! Been watching them none stop for like over a month. Perfect thing to watch with a torn meniscus & having to stay in 😂❤
You should talk about Israel Keyes next! That'd be so cool!
Interesting idea, given they attacked the two women's eyes. What if the mother was mad ofc cause 'wow lazy' but the mother and daughter walked in on them doing not sister things? Then the attacked happened, the eye gouging happens as if to either erase what they saw or punish them for seeing it? Then seeing how helpless they are decided to torture them as revenge for their suffering. That could just be my speculation tho, it just seems oddly specific that they'd go for the eyes.
You might be up to something.
Possibly quite plausible
that's what i thought too
Agent Jareu over here, we got a BAU Baddie
This actually makes sense! Nice!
I used to watch Sailor Moon with my six-year-old and now (no matter how many times I correct her) she calls you Sailor Barian. 😂😂 We love watching some Sailor Barian in this house!
That’s so cute!
that’s adorable😭💗
I am a fan of this
I love everything about this
Because this content is sooo appropriate for a 6 year old.. ya kidding me right?
We may miss the theme song, but it runs in our head rent free without you even having to do it. It still lives on!
This story could be a movie!! You tell it so well also !!
Watching Bailey after smoking some devil’s lettuce is my favourite.
The Best!!
@@melanienguyen4123 ✨self care✨ lol!
😂😂💚
I agree! 💕🌱
😂 Literally exactly what I was doing while starting the video
Bailey says something French: *looks to camera for approval* 😂💖
“Ya it wasn’t me.. I’m innocent 😜” I’m dead!!! 😂🤣 your the best story teller EVER! You make things lighthearted and fun to watch 🤩
She honestly is!
The nuns literally were Amelia’s salvation, of course she decided to be a nun. They were the only ones who did anything for her
I swear I speak in Bailey now, I walk around saying naynay, and get better Idols 24/7🤣❤️ Bailey get me through my work days
I’m sooooo glad I’m not the only one! 🤣😂🙌🏻
Same here, 😏 and "suspish" - any time I put any Bailey words in a comment, immediately someone comments "you watch Bailey too!" --- lol
I find myself using her attitude with “suspish” and “oh naynay” and my personal fav “ya nasties!” Lol. I work in maintenance dealing with construction and a LOT of sewer pipes so naynay and ya nasties get said a lot 😂
I love the juxtaposition of a super cheerful start with a super dark topic. The chair spin was so cuuute ^_^
She’s instantly hilarious and makes me laugh so quickly. Need more people lik Bailey in the world
Full on agree!
I literally miss you! I don't even wear make up but i enjoy watching you do yours while we chill
The eyeball thing makes me think that Leoni and Genevieve must have seen something of the love affair between the sisters
Very likely
agreed!!!
Makes me wonder why the eyes and not the tongue instead, probably a harder act to carry out
The amount of love I have for this woman is unmatched. She is just so naturally hilarious and honestly brightens my week with her videos :)
this one is WILD. i’m listening and eating my lunch like i’m getting the sickest gossip.
It's like your bf calling you with the latest gossip right....
miss you, Bailey! Mondays aren't the same without you! hope you're doing well 💕💋💖
Now I'm not gonna try to justify what they did, but I get it. Years of abuse and neglect from family can/does fck you up
“They’d model for each other and…”
*Bailey doing a little dancey dance 💃 *
“Do STUFF.”
😂😂 I love you Bailey
“I’m gonna massacre them!!” Which is like quite the announcement 😂😂😂😂😂 I love your humor during these videos
it sounds like it's just a bad translation lol
cause u would never say that in english but the french word she used probably sounds like massacre
I was going to comment on this too 😂 That was pretty funny!
@@emilyellisemilyellis I’m French and I can definitely say that is perfect word for word translation of the very French « je vais les massacrer » which is something we still say ( luckily it does not always end up as an actual slaughter)
@@emilyellisemilyellis makes sense
I had this teacher in history who would teach us lessons but in a way that made us understand. He was my favorite teacher because he could teach us instead of just reading from the books. Bailey reminds me why I loved history so much she truly has a talent when telling these stories and I love her! ❤
My best friend and I are going through divorces and this is just what we needed tonight as she sorts through this bs paperwork 🥂
Yassss qweeens! 😍 You guys got thisss. 🍾✨
What better way to escape from man troubles than watching this gorgeous lady.. keep your chin up girls. You got this ❤️
Take no prisoners. I tried to be amicable, I got ripped off. You go girls!!
You’ve got this ladies!! Take everything you deserve and I mean all of it!
Cheers to you and for a new beginning of your lifes 🥳🥰
You go, girls!!!
For anyone who enjoyed that case, I would recommend checking out Jean Genet’s The Maids, a play inspired by the case! It is really great as a work of art by itself but talks a lot about the class divide/isolation of the girls etc
There is also a movie on Tubi called " Sister my sister"
I think this case is what we call a "folie à deux".
And also Bailey, I just looove the way you pronounce french names. I am french and it sounds so funny
Is MMM no more? I miss these, my Mondays just aren't the same ☹️
Y’all should do a dark history podcast on Lewis Carroll and how creepy he was in real life 😳😬
Never knew, yes! That sounds great!
Yes! Great suggestion!!!
Has she done Jayne Mansfield? Jayne got in to the occult, through Satanist, Anton Lavey, whom believe she’d dated. Well , supposedly he placed a curse on her boyfriend or something like that. Well, lo and behold she’s the one that turned up dead soon after. 😬 AND apparently, she haunted her pink house, etc. Y’all have got to check her story out if you haven’t already!
Yes!!
Ooooh I'm intrigued!
I love how she brings in tasteful humor to lighten her videos. Regardless of what people want to say about humor in case videos, Im a “if I dont laugh, I’ll cry” kind of person so humor helps me get through cases that are sad.
You make my bad mondays so much better
honestly i can understand finally snapping after being abused for your whole life and being forced to constantly suppress your anger at the mistreatment. i'm surprised it didn't happen more often in times like these where groups of people had absolutely no rights.
I just got off work and watching these while eating before the kids come home is everything. Thank you ✨ I’m not new
I love learning about cases on like Deadly Women which is like a summary to find out more details about what happened
It’s great to seeing her happy and less stressed. Sounds like people are being negative on every little thing. GET A LIFE - People. Bailey don’t let this people get to you. I’m a big fan. You always make laugh.
That's Right!!! *chants* BAILEY BAILEY BAILEY!!!✊
@@shoediishgunner1718 y’all sound a bit culty.
Just saying, as a fan of baileys.
@@AM-gt1yt what? how do they sound “culty”? do you even know what a cult is cuz this doesn’t seem like it 😐😭
Bailey, I just want to say that you are an awesome host, an amazing human being. You are loved by so many people. Don't ever change.