Clozemaster has Piedmontese as a language if anyone's interested. It's definitely one of the most fascinating Romance languages according to me. thank you for your work :)
Wow, the accent sounds VERY similar to Occitan. Makes since, given how Piedmontese was once very closely related to Occitan, even more so than it is now.
@@jtinalexandria it had an evolution separated from Occitan dialects/languages. The occitan accent that is more similar is paradoxically the farther, the Gascon, in my opinion, but lexicon and grammar are very original due to a separate evolution from neighbouring languages. We can say that is a language born in a occitan/Gallo-romance context in the middle-ages that was suddenly influenced from north italy vulgars (as nowadays lombard). Consider that Piedmont is in-between padanian plain and Gallo-romance- speaking Alps, so its language is a sort of a bridge between these two linguistic worlds, all mixed with a very specific features of western-alpine romance dialects (as pre-latin or archaic lexicon).
@@minechannel1393 from a dictionary point of view. I was reading somewhere that Piedmontese has a richest dictionary as opposed as Ligurian, Lombardian or Emilian. Perhaps is not true though
@@shaide5483 interesting fact more than half of words and expresions are exactli like romainian popular language from Oltenia Moldova Banat Maramureș Ardeal same is with all dialects of italian peninsula ,sicilian bicose of arab and Greece influence iz more distant
Eh la Madonna, addirittura così poco? Per me fa anche molto il fatto che a differenza di altre lingue regionali (siculo e napoletano in primis) ha sempre avuto poca risonanza mediatica (non mi viene in mente nessuno a parte la Littizzetto che lo usi regolarmente in TV) e quindi la gente non ci sia abituata.
You can still find people who are good piedmontese speakers in rural areas of Cuneo, parts of Vercelli and asti, and the most isolated corners of Torino. But that is basically it.
Wow! I’ve never heard Piedmontese spoken before. My dad spoke Marchegiano, my mom Calabrese and my wife Siciliano. I can honestly say that I didn’t understand a word! 😜
Gallo-Italic and Gallo-Romance are not two distinct things, but Gallo-Italic is a subset of Gallo-Romance, just like Danish is a subset of North-Germanic languages.
@@edoardosalza Galloitalic is often considered a branch of Galloromance, just sometimes some linguists consider it not really a branch of Italoromance, but a transition Galloromance group. Whoever puts Galloitalic languages into Italoromance always includes Rhaetoromance in it, and that’s completely nonsense seeing how morphologically different they are.
Believe me! I'm from Bergamo in Lombardy not far from Piedmont, but if I only hear the words without watching the text it sounds like a completely foreign language to me.... 😊😊😂😂😂
none of the italian "dialects" are actually dialects of italian. they're all their own separate language branches, because they didn't develop FROM italian, but they developped in parallel to what later became "italian" (the florentine dialect). so yeah, piedmontese technically isn't a dialect.
Hallo, I have lived in Piedmont since I was born and I am sorry to point out that the pronunciation of some words is incorrect! Open vowels instead of closed, wrong tonic accents, sweet or hard consonants, the N- completely missed. Congratulations on your work in safeguarding dialects and disseminating knowledge, but you should pay more attention to details. Thank you! Gabriella P.s. The tale, however, is perfect and the accent and pronunciation are really Piedmontese!
@@iltoni6895 Southern Europe doesn't mean stereotypically "mediterranean". Most of Northern Italy is geographically and culturally Southern Europe, like the rest of the country, just in a different way.
@@crossofsavoy4303 No, it's not a variant of italian language. Piedmontese is an indipendent language that shares similarities with Italian (and French too) but it's not a dialect. Piedmontese are italians and speak standard italian too, but this doesn't mean that Piedmontese is an italian dialect.
@@crossofsavoy4303 well sorry but all is wrong: this language has no German influence at all, very few french influence (just some words in the lexicon of highest registers), and, last but not least, it is a language on their own.
@@carlopallard9234 yes it is a dialect. It is closely related to standard italian and historically subordinated to it because it chose it as main idiom of litterature and only official language.
Di Piedmont langwej na sista fɔ di Lombard, Ligurian, Occitan, Provencal, Emiluan, Romagna, Venetian, Friulian, Ladin ɛn Romansh langwej dɛn. Bes wan, dɛn langwej ya na wan, dɛn na Sɛltik. Katalan, Algueires, Mayɔkan, Valɛnshia, di sem famili.
Is the historical cross of Savoy, the blue lambel on the top represents the cadet branch of the house with the title of “Prince of Piedmont”, so the flag, that is called “drapò” (alike french drapeau”)
the flag derives from the duchy of savoy the blue symbol was added in the center to symbolize the illustrious families of our region and the blue frame which is the symbol of the house of savoy under which it joined Italy, I do not think there is a connection with denmark but it was widespread throughout the hre so much so that a similar flag was also used by the empire itself
I guess it depends from the region one is from. I would say is pretty far from standard Italian, while it might sound more comprehensible by people of the closer regions (Ligurians and Lombards). I live in Veneto, speaking Italian and Venetian, and I can’t understand almost any sentence of the last part.
The sad reality of all of northern Italy is it is a dying region in terms of local culture. Low birthrates from native people combined with a hatred from the Roman government (sad considering who pays the most taxes) and massive immigration from outside the North has resulted in these languages almost dying. Millions of piedmontese went to Argentina
I'm Sardinian, south, I could get some words here and there in the first part, probably the first speaker has a weak piedmontese accent and made it easier, but "the wren" is very hard to understand, the speaker has a stronger accent and probably a different dialect that made it harder to understand
Southern Gallo-Romance languages... The presence of Gallic influences in a mostly italic language makes for such a beautiful mix. Thank you for this
The gallic influence always existed in these languages... On really, this is a half italico and a half oïl language.
And remind me a lot of my mother tounge
YES!! my native language! I've been waiting for this one specifically, thank you
Wow nice ! Not many speak it anymore these days so that’s cool haha
mine too!
Ciao! Mi i parlo piemontèis coma ti!
@@crossofsavoy4303 house of Savoy >
Wait still ppl speak it?
Che bel sente parle' la mia lenga, a fa propi piasi' ,grassie! 😍
Thank you so much for posting Italian dialects/languages!
Clozemaster has Piedmontese as a language if anyone's interested. It's definitely one of the most fascinating Romance languages according to me. thank you for your work :)
Wow, the accent sounds VERY similar to Occitan. Makes since, given how Piedmontese was once very closely related to Occitan, even more so than it is now.
@@crossofsavoy4303 Heh, he's probably one of those people who believes that Occitan is just a "Dialect of French".
Mainly, the Provence variety of Occitan
yes sound occtian with some italian languages
@@jtinalexandria it had an evolution separated from Occitan dialects/languages. The occitan accent that is more similar is paradoxically the farther, the Gascon, in my opinion, but lexicon and grammar are very original due to a separate evolution from neighbouring languages. We can say that is a language born in a occitan/Gallo-romance context in the middle-ages that was suddenly influenced from north italy vulgars (as nowadays lombard). Consider that Piedmont is in-between padanian plain and Gallo-romance- speaking Alps, so its language is a sort of a bridge between these two linguistic worlds, all mixed with a very specific features of western-alpine romance dialects (as pre-latin or archaic lexicon).
The most elegant of the Galloitalic languages to me. Perhaps the richest too
In what sense the richest
@@minechannel1393 from a dictionary point of view. I was reading somewhere that Piedmontese has a richest dictionary as opposed as Ligurian, Lombardian or Emilian. Perhaps is not true though
@@bepivisintainer2975 yeah, I can agree with you
Thank you, and you're right
I'm sicilian. I moved to Piedmont to live. I understand 2% of this language😅
Figures. Sicilian is Italo-Dalmatian (like Italian is), & Piedmontese is Gallo-Italic, so there’s less mutual intelligibility
@@shaide5483 interesting fact more than half of words and expresions are exactli like romainian popular language from Oltenia Moldova Banat Maramureș Ardeal same is with all dialects of italian peninsula ,sicilian bicose of arab and Greece influence iz more distant
😄🤣
Luckly You can use italian as common language. Or english 😄🤣😂
Eh la Madonna, addirittura così poco? Per me fa anche molto il fatto che a differenza di altre lingue regionali (siculo e napoletano in primis) ha sempre avuto poca risonanza mediatica (non mi viene in mente nessuno a parte la Littizzetto che lo usi regolarmente in TV) e quindi la gente non ci sia abituata.
As a Lombard language speaker I understood 99% of this!
same 's here. Beautiful language. Very elegant
i speak venetian and i understood barely 10% haha
Io sono di Bergamo, e se ascolto il video senza guardare il testo non capisco una mazza, se non per intuito.....
@@Brigister ahhaha. Not surprised, Venetian is similar but different enough
You can still find people who are good piedmontese speakers in rural areas of Cuneo, parts of Vercelli and asti, and the most isolated corners of Torino. But that is basically it.
Wow! I’ve never heard Piedmontese spoken before. My dad spoke Marchegiano, my mom Calabrese and my wife Siciliano. I can honestly say that I didn’t understand a word! 😜
You're all Southern; that's why.
Very pleasant and comprehensible for a Lombard ! 👌
northern italians(latin speaking)southern french(occitans) catalans are very similar ...
Wow! That's me! Grassie për ël video!
The language of almost all my ancestors 🥰
It is a “bridge language” between Gallo-italic and Gallo-romance groups
Gallo-Italic and Gallo-Romance are not two distinct things, but Gallo-Italic is a subset of Gallo-Romance, just like Danish is a subset of North-Germanic languages.
@@parleremilian6879 it depends which classification you use: gallo-italic is often considered a branch of italo-romance.
@@edoardosalza Galloitalic is often considered a branch of Galloromance, just sometimes some linguists consider it not really a branch of Italoromance, but a transition Galloromance group. Whoever puts Galloitalic languages into Italoromance always includes Rhaetoromance in it, and that’s completely nonsense seeing how morphologically different they are.
As an occitan speaker, it sounds surprisingly familiar
Omg my native language! Mersí 🙏
En tant que francophone, je remarque que cette langue a beaucoup de traits avec le français
Oui, c'est bien vrai. On pourrait dire que la langue piedmontese est soeur du français e cousine de l'italien.
Funny how they have the same ë for the schwa sound
My grandfathers language, I grew up speaking it.
sounds like mix of
french and italian😀
Very cool video ! I love it its so cool
thank you from piedmont
Piedmontese looks so similar to French that gives the impression to be a patois language between Italian and Occitan.
Believe me! I'm from Bergamo in Lombardy not far from Piedmont, but if I only hear the words without watching the text it sounds like a completely foreign language to me.... 😊😊😂😂😂
Ma dighet del de bù? po a me so bergamasch e g'hó capit töt. Gh'è de dì che me so us asent i piemuntes ciciarà :-))))))
Since I often listen to some Gallo-Sicilian I understand Piedmontese quite well
As a Spanish speaker, Piedmontese sounds like Occitan.
intense speech!!!
What a cool language! I speak a little French and a smattering of Italian, but I can't understand this at all!
This is the result of evolution of Latin spoken by Cisalpine Gauls for 2000 years
To me its seems like a very intresting type of gallo-italian
I wouldn't consider it a dialect at all
It's a language in fact
@@pnkcnlng228 some people call it a dialect but it isn't
none of the italian "dialects" are actually dialects of italian. they're all their own separate language branches, because they didn't develop FROM italian, but they developped in parallel to what later became "italian" (the florentine dialect). so yeah, piedmontese technically isn't a dialect.
@@kwayyernorge7436 it is a dialect. Why would it be a language?
@@bacascionebacascioni897 tell us why it shouldn’t be a language
Can you make a video about Dacian Language?Plsss
Impossible, there are no written texts in the Dacian language, only a handful of inscriptions, toponyms and plant names.
@@combatantezoteric2965 there are inscription at Sinaia
As a french speaker i understood the 15%
Hallo, I have lived in Piedmont since I was born and I am sorry to point out that the pronunciation of some words is incorrect!
Open vowels instead of closed, wrong tonic accents, sweet or hard consonants, the N- completely missed.
Congratulations on your work in safeguarding dialects and disseminating knowledge, but you should pay more attention to details. Thank you!
Gabriella
P.s. The tale, however, is perfect and the accent and pronunciation are really Piedmontese!
Everybody:But how many accents do you have?
Italy:yes
Questa è una lingua, non un acento
@@iltoni6895 c'è comunque da dire che l'influenza delle ormai morenti lingue locali si faccia tutt'oggi sentire nell'italiano regionale
So many reigns and peoples have been in Italy in the last centuries and millennia.
It looks like a typical romance language when you show some examples but full texts are totally incomprehensible.
countach!
Pakipindot mo ga ngo abong ko Naples lan higam kabsat
Hi Andy, would you accept and make a video about a colang to be submitted to you?
Interesting
Chad language of southern Europe
Piedmont is hardly southern Europe, at least on the cultural aspect
@@iltoni6895 Southern Europe doesn't mean stereotypically "mediterranean".
Most of Northern Italy is geographically and culturally Southern Europe, like the rest of the country, just in a different way.
🤜🏻💪🏻
Anyone who calls this a dialect lf italian needs a reality check.
Big time
believe it or not the dialect is Italian with German and French influences but it is Italian
Cross of Savoy non è un dialetto it is not an Italian dialect.
@@crossofsavoy4303 No, it's not a variant of italian language. Piedmontese is an indipendent language that shares similarities with Italian (and French too) but it's not a dialect. Piedmontese are italians and speak standard italian too, but this doesn't mean that Piedmontese is an italian dialect.
@@crossofsavoy4303 well sorry but all is wrong: this language has no German influence at all, very few french influence (just some words in the lexicon of highest registers), and, last but not least, it is a language on their own.
@@carlopallard9234 yes it is a dialect. It is closely related to standard italian and historically subordinated to it because it chose it as main idiom of litterature and only official language.
Di Piedmont langwej na sista fɔ di Lombard, Ligurian, Occitan, Provencal, Emiluan, Romagna, Venetian, Friulian, Ladin ɛn Romansh langwej dɛn. Bes wan, dɛn langwej ya na wan, dɛn na Sɛltik. Katalan, Algueires, Mayɔkan, Valɛnshia, di sem famili.
My native language, or it SHOULD be. I'm Piedmontese
Why is the flag so similar to Denmark??
Is the historical cross of Savoy, the blue lambel on the top represents the cadet branch of the house with the title of “Prince of Piedmont”, so the flag, that is called “drapò” (alike french drapeau”)
the flag derives from the duchy of savoy the blue symbol was added in the center to symbolize the illustrious families of our region and the blue frame which is the symbol of the house of savoy under which it joined Italy, I do not think there is a connection with denmark but it was widespread throughout the hre so much so that a similar flag was also used by the empire itself
the original however is the Danish one
That is the historical flag of Savoy Piedmont. My beautiful flag
To native speakers of Italian: how much intelligible is this language for you guys?
10-15%
5%
I guess it depends from the region one is from. I would say is pretty far from standard Italian, while it might sound more comprehensible by people of the closer regions (Ligurians and Lombards). I live in Veneto, speaking Italian and Venetian, and I can’t understand almost any sentence of the last part.
I'm lombardian. To me is 99%, but I 'm native lombardian speaker as well.
Easier to follow when you see it printed.
I get slight Portuguese vibes
Wow
Neh language
Si piemontèis io Biella
Givonetti Patrizia
The sad reality of all of northern Italy is it is a dying region in terms of local culture. Low birthrates from native people combined with a hatred from the Roman government (sad considering who pays the most taxes) and massive immigration from outside the North has resulted in these languages almost dying. Millions of piedmontese went to Argentina
I dialetti piemontesi sono simili all' occitano e in po' anche al catalano.
Is it intelligible to Italian speakers?
I'm Sardinian, south, I could get some words here and there in the first part, probably the first speaker has a weak piedmontese accent and made it easier, but "the wren" is very hard to understand, the speaker has a stronger accent and probably a different dialect that made it harder to understand
I’m native speaker, but i know that it is not intellegible to other italians.
A bit
I'm lombardian. To me is 99%, but I 'm native lombardian speaker as well.
I'm learning italian and I see a lot of similar words, but without the translation I couldn't understand even a single sentence.
Does this language have ejectives or why does this speaker pronounce the stop consonants with so much pppph-ressure :D
I don't know why. It's just natural for us
That's really how they talk, vowels are soo open
Ah d'acòrd ! =Catalan😂(Ah d'acord) Pare (=Pare) 👌
E U T -8 (nice)
The German is trying to speak Italian.
I don't know why, but this language spoken sounds to me like Romanian on steroids.
XD I missed this
Sounds to me like a mix of mostly italian flemish/swedish and croatian.
Doesn't sound even remotely close to romanian. I live in north Italy and I'm romanian, so trust my word.
Not much
Well, thank you I guess. Even though it's not similar at all but Romanian is good also
Nossa parece um pouco com o português os números 😳😳😳
for me it sounds like Hungarian :)()()(
Its sounds like portuguese
Most italians say the same, but the first speaker has an accent similar to brasilian (I guess he is not from Italy)
Sounds like a mix of Catalan and Norwegian
Very weird language. It doesn't seem to be romance.
But it is fully romance 😊
it has little German influences if I'm not mistaken
It very much is
@@crossofsavoy4303 no, any German influences, at least no more than Italian or French has...