Pendolino was already a solid train as is, but this refurbishment definitely fixes many issues it previously had and brings it up to the standard of the best intercity trains in the UK
Lovely refurbished trains are very nice, doesn’t make up for what has gone from one of the best services on the railways to what probably the worst. Very difficult to plan train journeys from Cumbria. Sincerely hope they send Avanti packing.
@@Abandoned23345the lumo trains have these seats, if only GWR and LNER didn't choose these ones and GWR put a buffet car on their 9 car trains. They've also put the same bad seats on the class 197s for TfW, when they should've chosen trains with a more intercity style interior, like on the 158s and 175s and put in more than one toilet
Another great watch. I did not realise there was a bar upstairs at Euston as agree little or no seating in the main concourse. Keep up the good work as they enjoyable watches.
British train interiors are always hamstrung by the restrictive loading gauge (Eurostar excepted, and eventually HS2) which means they are always a bit cramped (it's amazing what an extra 10-20cm of interior width can do). So we do have to temper our expectations.
Britains Rail netork is one of the oldest in the world and so obviously are the standards which where set. Definitely not a great descicion for the future in hindsight but there isn't a lot you could do if you did not want to spend a fortune.
you mentioned about large towns/cities with small railway stations, I've got another example for you : Bath, Bath Spa has 2 platforms I think - great trip report!
Regarding large towns/cities with small stations, Wakefield has a population of 330k (over 550k for the postcode area) and it's main station, Westgate, only has 2 platforms
Oh the days when we as kids had to run down the platform to get a compartment on the corridor trains out of Euston travelling to Liverpool to get the ferry back to Ireland sometimes even as far as Stranraer but at least in those days there was a line from Dumfries to Stranraer, yep I’m that old and they were steam pulled trains,
About the towns with small stations, Kenilworth has about 22k (as of 2021) people and only re opened in 2016 from its 1965 closure with a single platform
Great video! :D Seems odd that they didn't update the vestibule area and the signage in a few bits, just makes it look like a weird mishmash rather than a totally new train which other refurbs manage to do. But equally, an upgrade is still welcomed and it looks like it will feel much less cramped and dingy compared to the usual 390 experience...
Class 390 took me from Wolverhampton to London Euston, and Wolverhampton to Liverpool. I rate them 9.5 out of ten. my Mums friend is a manager there and their service is amazing.
Detest Euston. Travelled out of there many times when I worked on the buses, 84 to 86 and lived in Coventry at the time. Tragic what we have lost architecturally especially Brum New St pre 1962. Imagine St Pancras being demolished and replaced by a concrete monolith like this.
I'm willing to bet that the person responsible for the window shades not being replaced or at least cleaned, will blame supply issues. I wouldn't mind seeing that train here in Connecticut. It would be great running between New York City and Boston.
Great video. I really like the new refurbs apart from those white side head rests/head rest wings in standard. They do not look very hygienic and also, if someone with a not so clean head/head of hair has been using them, it could be a bit smelly for the next passenger. Me and my other half are due to travel down to London in 7 weeks time, it will be interesting to see if we will be travelling on one of the newly refurbed trains, time will tell.
@@stephensmith799 claustrophobia on voyagers are the same as they need: Gutting Better seat arrangements One extra carriage Less cramped legroom. New window alignment Redesign of luggage storage If those things I mentioned above don't happen then scrap voyagers and replace them with IETs which are Avanti West Coast are replacing the voyagers with 805s and 807s. As I mentioned IETs they are the worst intercity train and have uncomfortable seating loose panels inside every carriage and shoddy interiors. HSTs and 91s are better than IETs and have much more comfortable seating.
@@maimadha The Pendolinos used to go about with panels rattling but they seem to have sorted that out now. Do carriage designers even talk to passengers? Or for that matter, to train crew? I get the fact that there are structural integrity issues that they have to start with, but, hey, the crash resistance of BR mk2 Fs (lovely stock in original configuration) was pretty damn good…
There are a few very large places with rather small stations, for instance Telford, which has an estimated population of around 200,000 in 2022, has only two platforms at the central station, with Middlesbrough and Poole, both with estimated populations of 150-160,000 have stations of a similar situation.
@@Cpr1234 Yeah Wellington has three, although Platform 3 isn’t used often or at all since the Walsall service was withdrawn in December 2019. I know the area very well too, I used to use Wellington station a lot. Telford could really do with a lot more frequent services considering the size of it
@@MaidaValeTom True. Sometimes P3 is used by the occasional engineering or light loco move, or on rare occasions a terminating service should the line be blocked on the way towards Shrewsbury. But yeah you're right, the third platform is rarely used in general.
@@Cpr1234 Yeah the last time I saw it in use was an engineering train about a year ago, and the last time I saw it used by a passenger service was when the 2020 floods happened in Shrewsbury and the lines were blocked. I’ve not been to Wellington in quite a while now so haven’t had chance to witness any trains use it recently.
Nice video. What on earth were they thinking installing white headrests?!! Always found the Pendolino interiors to be cramped, but the soft lighting is so much better than the LNER Azuma dental/operating surgery bright white migraine inducing setup which makes the horrendously austere interiors look even more austere! Can't bear travelling on the Azumas.
I note that Standard was fairly packed whereas First was running empty! Has this something to do with pricing? Perhaps all operators should consider charging a fairly modest premium for use of the first class carriage irrespective of journey length and charging extra for a meal service?
it looks awesome a bit upsetting i havent been on a pendolino for ages ive never been on one when they have been avanti west coast only when they were virgin trains
Thank you so so much for showing what standard disabled area looks like. I'm disabled and the woman on the phone said that the wheelchair spaces had limited to no view... not really sure what she was meaning? Any ideas as on their website it says it's the same train as this one? Thank you for giving such a good and detailed tour. x
Great video - informative and fun to watch. Euston is a really ugly station - especially if you google how it used to look or compare it to St Pancras (for example). It was built at the same time, and with the same priorites as Penn Station in New York - which is known as the ugliest station there. Little thought taken for the needs of the people who actually use it.
Good video as usual. 1) Aren't the ticket machines tested by a user panel selected for the lack of IT skills? 2) They are marginally less unpleasant than the Hitachi stock but pigs' ears and silk purses is the phrase that comes to mindful. They have been in service long enough. The best continued use for them would be for an express parcels service, with roller shutter doors fitted. The class 350 have a more pleasant, airy and spacious ambience. 3) What does tilting do to the track? 4) Did they get rid of the smell of drains?
1:38 I think it's great. It's kind of like Barcelona-Sants, but in London and being a terminal station 12:35 I don't know any Spanish city with a population of more than 250K people and with a 3-platform station, but I must say I love the UK TV Shows about antiques and antiques' restorations 13:01 How many pounds are changed into an Euro? 15:05 Great journey, In Spain we can't have this trains due to Renfe's predilection for Spanish manufacturers like CAF & Talgo
Do I know of any similar size city with so few platforms? Sure, almost every city in America that is lucky to have rail service! Look at Cleveland Lakeside Station, or Buffalo Exchange Street which is brand new with one high-level platform for its three daily Amtrak round-trips. 🙂
Always loved the new Euston and I’ll miss it when it’s gone. In terms of beautiful British design I associate Euston, The QE2, Concorde, the BR mark 2D and mark 2E carriages and the Festival Hall. But oh dear, I notice that there are still seats with NO view through a window!!!! Not a bad ticket price
12:22 Bit off topic to this video but I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels Stoke Station is rather small as a primary railway station for an urban area of its size (smaller than the nearby stations of Kidsgrove and Stafford) despite having nice architecture. Just a shame there's no major plan to expand it, a perfect evidence of the lack of ambition & foresight on the Transport Planners here - could easily expand it across the former Goods Yard space with at least two more through platforms and a southbound terminating platform (might be more challenging though with the Goods Yard Development taking place in part of that space now), freeing up some capacity in the Stoke branch of the West Coast Main Line (when I studied in the College & University adjacent to it, I did sometimes see some trains queuing up for the platforms) and possibly allowing more local/long distance services in the area from Stoke. But anyway, nice video & review regardless.
@@LeeAshleysChannel Oh for goodness sake. Southern, Thameslink, Great Northern are all part of the GTR group. Is it really that hard to get into your brain?
Oof, unpopular opinion there about Euston. In my opinion it's the least attractive terminus in London. St Pancras is my favourite. Hopefully the rebuild of Euston for HS2 will help improve its appearance.
Well filmed journey. Its a smashing refurb for a great train 😎👍🏽 If I was travelling between London and Glasgow/Edinburgh now it would be the pendolino every time over LNER’s Azuma (Hitachi AT300) - those Hitachi trains are very uncomfortable for journeys longer than an hour, even in 1st class 😟
great video I'm looking forward to the AWC experience i have booked soon through the Rail Sale. I do prefer the LNER trains as they are more spacious and airy.
New seats, carpet and a screen and that's it. Toilets and door areas still the same, still stink. Seats harder than previous seats. The folding armrests are too low, I had to lean to rest my arm.
I do like what Avanti West Coast have refurbished the Class 390 Pendolinos. With new seats, lights, interiors, WiFi and plug sockets. And also they ordered new Class 805 and Class 807 AT300 rolling stocks from Hitachi that isn’t to replace the Class 390 but is to replace the Class 221 Voyagers and are to enter service from next year.
Found the seats really uncomfortable, typical ‘save space’ seating in refurbished carriages we see everywhere, but like sitting on chipboard for 90 mins. The tables are already showing signs of wear. Poor experience overall. The Pendalinos needed a refresh, but this is a backward step for me as a passenger
@@SuperalbsTravels you sound just like him! I just realised you also sound like the coin collector youtuber my girlfriend watches called Christopher Collects.
Took the EUS to MAN, and return, Avanti service in the second week of April. Having done the same trip, some years ago, when it was Virgin operated, I was very disappointed with the level of service. They wouldn't let me in to the EUS firs class lounge until an hour before departure. I didn't see any such restriction when I booked the ticket, I have no doubt it's on the Avanti website somewhere it just wasn't obvious. That's fine for local passengers who know but I'd travelled on the non-stop flight from Australia and tubed it to Kings Cross before going to Euston. To say I was shagged after the flight would be an understatement. There are other factors involved but they don't need to be discussed here. All I wanted was to sit down in peace and quiet to start recovering. When they finally let me in I discovered they'd removed the self-serve, an attendant had to serve you. Job creation or stopping people from over-indulging? On the train they ran out of beer, the food was worse than airline food in the 70s and the service less than stellar. What happened to the set table, the cloth napkins and the prompt service? Coming back was no better and to compound the issue the Avanti First Class Lounge was closed, I did see, what appeared to be, Avanti staff entering and leaving but it didn't open while I was there. Let's hope Avanti has upgraded more than the decor of the carriages.
So A: I'm in a very large electric wheelchair. B: I love pricks who put their luggage in my space. They have their seat allocation I have mine and I don't share. So I park my chair on top of their luggage, trying to damage it, but inevitably I block it in and if they want it out I tell them sorry mate, I'm not moving till my station comes up. This usually then involves the conductor, he first queries them and their inability to read signs, then he begs me to release the offending articles. All this time the train is stopped, the police are usually called, and eventually I give in. Now the conductor knows me, see's me coming and dumps their junk from my space, this includes strollers with kids in them. Strollers are not wheelchairs. So I have made a name for myself in our regional community, if traveling by train, stay away from the disabled area. If there is to much luggage, the conductor calls a maxi taxi, this is a taxi usually a big ass Toyota van with a hoist, it takes me to the door of my destination at the railways companies expense. But conductors are more on their toes, they know when I travel and they dress down idiot passengers that can't read the big wheelchair on the floor.
More of a refresh than a refurb. Those reservation screens are very dated now and should have been replaced with something closer to the red/green lights on the ECML stock. Blue lighting is also not new. And the tasty meal service is better described as a light snack and nowhere near worth the price you pay for 1st class.
The ticket machine thing is trenitalia's fault. Theyre the worst bloody things to need to rush and get a ticket on. Just give me my bloody ticket offers without extra faff, please. Not cool, FS.
Definitely the worst terminus in London. It's dark with no seating and then those horrid ramps to the platforms. It has zero impact or sense of style about it.
Not much seems to have changed. I found the Standard Class least comfortable as any long distance train. They were claustrophobic, cramped and badly ventilated. For going from Birmingham to London give me London Northwestern or Chiltern even if they take a bit longer. Your video doesn’t give me any confidence that things have improved!
@@andrewstorm8240 to be honest, if you're on any high-speed train and travelling quite a while on them, you always become tired after getting off. Happens all the time to me when I go on any high speed train
Railway reviews are so much more enjoyable without sub titles , it allows full concentration on what’s happening , excellent video .
Pendolino was already a solid train as is, but this refurbishment definitely fixes many issues it previously had and brings it up to the standard of the best intercity trains in the UK
It is the best intercity train in the UK
@@alexn643 HSTs and 91s are also the best intercity train and much better than IETs
Lovely refurbished trains are very nice, doesn’t make up for what has gone from one of the best services on the railways to what probably the worst. Very difficult to plan train journeys from Cumbria. Sincerely hope they send Avanti packing.
Yea, it would be nice if they were put to replace the old rolling stock instead of these wax turd IETs and Azumas
@@Abandoned23345the lumo trains have these seats, if only GWR and LNER didn't choose these ones and GWR put a buffet car on their 9 car trains. They've also put the same bad seats on the class 197s for TfW, when they should've chosen trains with a more intercity style interior, like on the 158s and 175s and put in more than one toilet
I went on an Avanti Pendolino for the first time recently, I have to say that I'm very impressed with the train and the refurbishment!
I totally agree with your comments about the white head restraints - they will come to regret that decision. Good vid and voice over.
It's the same in Switzerland, but the cleaners do actually clean Swiss trains...
Another great watch. I did not realise there was a bar upstairs at Euston as agree little or no seating in the main concourse. Keep up the good work as they enjoyable watches.
British train interiors are always hamstrung by the restrictive loading gauge (Eurostar excepted, and eventually HS2) which means they are always a bit cramped (it's amazing what an extra 10-20cm of interior width can do). So we do have to temper our expectations.
Absolutely, which was a terrible mistake of the past. But hey!
Britains Rail netork is one of the oldest in the world and so obviously are the standards which where set. Definitely not a great descicion for the future in hindsight but there isn't a lot you could do if you did not want to spend a fortune.
The seating looks so good and comfy on this one!
Another superb video from Superalbs. They just get better & better.
Travelled along the Watford gap today on the M1, Saw a Pendolino rushing along the WCML also
Awesome! 😁
you mentioned about large towns/cities with small railway stations, I've got another example for you : Bath, Bath Spa has 2 platforms I think - great trip report!
Truro a city in Cornwall 2ith a little 3 platform station one is a bay platform for a branch line
Bath is not as big as Stoke tho- Bath around 105,000 & Stoke around 290,000
East Kilbride and one platform
One of the few well designed UK liveries.
I thought it looked awful especially compared to the original Virgin livery.
Regarding large towns/cities with small stations, Wakefield has a population of 330k (over 550k for the postcode area) and it's main station, Westgate, only has 2 platforms
Oh the days when we as kids had to run down the platform to get a compartment on the corridor trains out of Euston travelling to Liverpool to get the ferry back to Ireland sometimes even as far as Stranraer but at least in those days there was a line from Dumfries to Stranraer, yep I’m that old and they were steam pulled trains,
About the towns with small stations, Kenilworth has about 22k (as of 2021) people and only re opened in 2016 from its 1965 closure with a single platform
Excellent video from you again. Keep it up.
Great video! :D Seems odd that they didn't update the vestibule area and the signage in a few bits, just makes it look like a weird mishmash rather than a totally new train which other refurbs manage to do. But equally, an upgrade is still welcomed and it looks like it will feel much less cramped and dingy compared to the usual 390 experience...
The vestibule upgrade is a seperate project. 2 have been done already.
Nice trip report as always! Id be interested in seeing reviews on trains in Spain such as the renfe Ave/euromed and other regional and express trains!
Class 390 took me from Wolverhampton to London Euston, and Wolverhampton to Liverpool. I rate them 9.5 out of ten. my Mums friend is a manager there and their service is amazing.
Ooh wow, that sounds good! 😎
Detest Euston. Travelled out of there many times when I worked on the buses, 84 to 86 and lived in Coventry at the time. Tragic what we have lost architecturally especially Brum New St pre 1962. Imagine St Pancras being demolished and replaced by a concrete monolith like this.
New interior looks very smart on the pendolinos
I'm willing to bet that the person responsible for the window shades not being replaced or at least cleaned, will blame supply issues. I wouldn't mind seeing that train here in Connecticut. It would be great running between New York City and Boston.
Supply of spray cleaner? Buy it in any supermarket.
During the worst of the pandemic we couldn't find any.
I bet you find the accent sucks if your an American
ah no these pendolinos arent going to new york in a while, only ugly 3mph trains woth zero features deserve to go there
I’ll miss the old pendo seats, I already miss the red and white livery
excellent review, thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much! :)
Great video.
I really like the new refurbs apart from those white side head rests/head rest wings in standard. They do not look very hygienic and also, if someone with a not so clean head/head of hair has been using them, it could be a bit smelly for the next passenger. Me and my other half are due to travel down to London in 7 weeks time, it will be interesting to see if we will be travelling on one of the newly refurbed trains, time will tell.
Thanks! I agree with you, the white headrests was not well thought through.
It'll never get better than the old VT style, the head wings are nice tbf though
Nice video. I've always found the Pendalinos a bit claustrophobic, small seats with the window alignment wrong.
I feel exactly the same way: claustrophobia especially because of very poor seat/ window alignments
@@stephensmith799 claustrophobia on voyagers are the same as they need:
Gutting
Better seat arrangements
One extra carriage
Less cramped legroom.
New window alignment
Redesign of luggage storage
If those things I mentioned above don't happen then scrap voyagers and replace them with IETs which are Avanti West Coast are replacing the voyagers with 805s and 807s. As I mentioned IETs they are the worst intercity train and have uncomfortable seating loose panels inside every carriage and shoddy interiors. HSTs and 91s are better than IETs and have much more comfortable seating.
@@maimadha The Pendolinos used to go about with panels rattling but they seem to have sorted that out now. Do carriage designers even talk to passengers? Or for that matter, to train crew? I get the fact that there are structural integrity issues that they have to start with, but, hey, the crash resistance of BR mk2 Fs (lovely stock in original configuration) was pretty damn good…
There are a few very large places with rather small stations, for instance Telford, which has an estimated population of around 200,000 in 2022, has only two platforms at the central station, with Middlesbrough and Poole, both with estimated populations of 150-160,000 have stations of a similar situation.
There is also Wellington station which has 3 platforms. I live in Telford so I know the area.
@@Cpr1234 Yeah Wellington has three, although Platform 3 isn’t used often or at all since the Walsall service was withdrawn in December 2019. I know the area very well too, I used to use Wellington station a lot. Telford could really do with a lot more frequent services considering the size of it
@@MaidaValeTom True. Sometimes P3 is used by the occasional engineering or light loco move, or on rare occasions a terminating service should the line be blocked on the way towards Shrewsbury. But yeah you're right, the third platform is rarely used in general.
@@Cpr1234 Yeah the last time I saw it in use was an engineering train about a year ago, and the last time I saw it used by a passenger service was when the 2020 floods happened in Shrewsbury and the lines were blocked. I’ve not been to Wellington in quite a while now so haven’t had chance to witness any trains use it recently.
Thanks for the ride !!! 🇺🇾
Nice video. What on earth were they thinking installing white headrests?!! Always found the Pendolino interiors to be cramped, but the soft lighting is so much better than the LNER Azuma dental/operating surgery bright white migraine inducing setup which makes the horrendously austere interiors look even more austere! Can't bear travelling on the Azumas.
Yeah, the headrests are bad, but still better than the LNER service!
I note that Standard was fairly packed whereas First was running empty! Has this something to do with pricing? Perhaps all operators should consider charging a fairly modest premium for use of the first class carriage irrespective of journey length and charging extra for a meal service?
it looks awesome a bit upsetting i havent been on a pendolino for ages ive never been on one when they have been avanti west coast only when they were virgin trains
just think if the class 80x interiors looked like this.
Waiting for the 810s to see what the 2028 IET refurbs will look like.
@@iman2341 yep.
Great vid! One note - Thameslink services don't call at Watford Junction.
That brand might not, but the company does!
I was in Euston this weekend and they already facelift the main hall and add huge screen for advertisement in the wall!
The new Standard seats sort of look like their first class seats!
I wish I was on this trains😍
Thank you so so much for showing what standard disabled area looks like. I'm disabled and the woman on the phone said that the wheelchair spaces had limited to no view... not really sure what she was meaning? Any ideas as on their website it says it's the same train as this one? Thank you for giving such a good and detailed tour. x
Not really sure! I guess they have to let you know, just in case you don't think the view is good enough. 😅
There are multiple wheelchair spaces per train, so perhaps some of them have a poor view.
I agree that the white headrests are a mistake. The video itself is fantastic.
Do love the move to voice-over; bit like a decaf Jay Foreman, really. Q: what GPS app do you use to determine speeds...?
The seat shape is similar to the Lumo 803s
same seat :)
Great video - informative and fun to watch. Euston is a really ugly station - especially if you google how it used to look or compare it to St Pancras (for example). It was built at the same time, and with the same priorites as Penn Station in New York - which is known as the ugliest station there. Little thought taken for the needs of the people who actually use it.
Great video, m8. Is it alright if I use the trip review idea for my videos in the future?
Thanks. You can make whatever videos you like.
Well the refurbishment is definitely a good thing for the Pendolinos
btw bruh there is a split second with a "Media Offline" error at 6:32-6:33
Good video as usual.
1) Aren't the ticket machines tested by a user panel selected for the lack of IT skills?
2) They are marginally less unpleasant than the Hitachi stock but pigs' ears and silk purses is the phrase that comes to mindful. They have been in service long enough. The best continued use for them would be for an express parcels service, with roller shutter doors fitted. The class 350 have a more pleasant, airy and spacious ambience.
3) What does tilting do to the track?
4) Did they get rid of the smell of drains?
1:38 I think it's great. It's kind of like Barcelona-Sants, but in London and being a terminal station
12:35 I don't know any Spanish city with a population of more than 250K people and with a 3-platform station, but I must say I love the UK TV Shows about antiques and antiques' restorations
13:01 How many pounds are changed into an Euro?
15:05 Great journey, In Spain we can't have this trains due to Renfe's predilection for Spanish manufacturers like CAF & Talgo
As stated in the description, this cost the equivalent of €76.90
great video
Do I know of any similar size city with so few platforms? Sure, almost every city in America that is lucky to have rail service! Look at Cleveland Lakeside Station, or Buffalo Exchange Street which is brand new with one high-level platform for its three daily Amtrak round-trips. 🙂
True, but I guess most cities don't even have a station... :(
~20 is few?
Good point about head rest being white. You wonder if could put clothes over it like it first and premium.
I wonder if they will... 🤔
Always loved the new Euston and I’ll miss it when it’s gone. In terms of beautiful British design I associate Euston, The QE2, Concorde, the BR mark 2D and mark 2E carriages and the Festival Hall.
But oh dear, I notice that there are still seats with NO view through a window!!!!
Not a bad ticket price
12:22 Bit off topic to this video but I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels Stoke Station is rather small as a primary railway station for an urban area of its size (smaller than the nearby stations of Kidsgrove and Stafford) despite having nice architecture. Just a shame there's no major plan to expand it, a perfect evidence of the lack of ambition & foresight on the Transport Planners here - could easily expand it across the former Goods Yard space with at least two more through platforms and a southbound terminating platform (might be more challenging though with the Goods Yard Development taking place in part of that space now), freeing up some capacity in the Stoke branch of the West Coast Main Line (when I studied in the College & University adjacent to it, I did sometimes see some trains queuing up for the platforms) and possibly allowing more local/long distance services in the area from Stoke. But anyway, nice video & review regardless.
Hahaha, queueing trains! I bet that was a funny sight. :)
@@SuperalbsTravels Yep, sure was funny. 😆😂
Nice review; reminds me of Sam'sTrains.
Thanks! What is a Sam Train?
@@SuperalbsTravels, another channel doing a good job (ruclips.net/user/SamsTrains).
Usual For Euston. When The Platform For A Train Is Announced. Lots Of People Head Down Rushing Down The Ramp For Boarding
That's right!
They have new ticket machines on GWR, they’re pants!
Govia Thames link don’t go to Watford junction but southern do
Erm hello?? Southern is part of the GTR group
@@kentbustravels101 Thameslink class 700s don’t go Watford only the 377s do
@@LeeAshleysChannel Oh for goodness sake. Southern, Thameslink, Great Northern are all part of the GTR group. Is it really that hard to get into your brain?
@@kentbustravels101 don’t be Nasty or you will get reported and blocked
@@LeeAshleysChannel Report me then. I'm stating you a fact, but you're just too bloody clueless to get it into your thick brain
can wait for all the pendolinos to get this, was on one for the first time and to be honest, it felt a bit tatty, coming from a super voyager...
How did you know you were getting a refurbished one? When I think that I get bought a boring Standard one with the red and blue seats!
I had some insider information. 😌
Virgin had it right. Ends
Have they been refurbished on the Euston to Birmingham new street route?
The allocation is random, so any one of them can turn up.
Next time I’m on my travels I’ll have to look out for 390125
There are quite a few with the new interior now!
@@SuperalbsTravels Huh. Are the numbers documented so I know which one to look for?
@@bennickss Perhaps on here:
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/avanti-west-coast-rolling-stock-updates.215039/
Halifax has quite a small station considering how big the town centre is.
That's a good point!
Are the wireless chargers on all tables, or are they only on the tables in 1st Class?
All three classes have wireless charging at table seats.
@@SuperalbsTravels Thank you. That's very useful to know.
Good 😌
for the first time ever we have a comfy seat on a high speed train.
Tbf Lumo got there first with their 803s; they used similar seats as well!
Voyagers are comfy
the old pendo interior were very comfy
Hsts are comfy
@@lnerfan4468 I know. im more referring to the gastly interiors in the class 800s.
The seats on the Flirts are really comfortable to
@@cameronallan5624 my feel8ngs are mixed on them as everyone I've been on have been different as have actually been alright
What do you use to measure the speed you are going at on your phone?
DigiHud app! :)
Oof, unpopular opinion there about Euston. In my opinion it's the least attractive terminus in London. St Pancras is my favourite. Hopefully the rebuild of Euston for HS2 will help improve its appearance.
I Saw Videos Of The New Refurbished 390125. Even Saw A News Report
Very cool!
12:04 I died 😂
Have the seats got worse?
Well filmed journey. Its a smashing refurb for a great train 😎👍🏽 If I was travelling between London and Glasgow/Edinburgh now it would be the pendolino every time over LNER’s Azuma (Hitachi AT300) - those Hitachi trains are very uncomfortable for journeys longer than an hour, even in 1st class 😟
Legroom is good on lner must say
6:32 tho
Avanti West Coast by Trenitalia. Horribly expensive
great video I'm looking forward to the AWC experience i have booked soon through the Rail Sale. I do prefer the LNER trains as they are more spacious and airy.
New seats, carpet and a screen and that's it. Toilets and door areas still the same, still stink. Seats harder than previous seats. The folding armrests are too low, I had to lean to rest my arm.
It was a much needed refurbishment
I feel trains so need some sort of refurbishment every 10 years at least
What's material made of on the passanger seats?
I don't know unfortunately.
What a pity your excellent channel has more ads than any other, very intrusive.
Much better than GWR & LNER trains
I agree, just annoying it's so unreliable right now...
I do like what Avanti West Coast have refurbished the Class 390 Pendolinos. With new seats, lights, interiors, WiFi and plug sockets. And also they ordered new Class 805 and Class 807 AT300 rolling stocks from Hitachi that isn’t to replace the Class 390 but is to replace the Class 221 Voyagers and are to enter service from next year.
no shit
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Found the seats really uncomfortable, typical ‘save space’ seating in refurbished carriages we see everywhere, but like sitting on chipboard for 90 mins. The tables are already showing signs of wear.
Poor experience overall.
The Pendalinos needed a refresh, but this is a backward step for me as a passenger
The Pendolino tilts through curves, not corners!
Good point. :)
I’m glad they refurbished these trains but the unrefurbished interior still suits avanti in my opinion
It departed and arrived _on time._ !!?? 😲
Very rare, I know 🤣
Almost £100 for a return, what an absolute joke. First class high speed trains in Europe for those prices.
Is that Jago Hazard!?!?
What do you mean? 😅
@@SuperalbsTravels you sound just like him! I just realised you also sound like the coin collector youtuber my girlfriend watches called Christopher Collects.
Took the EUS to MAN, and return, Avanti service in the second week of April. Having done the same trip, some years ago, when it was Virgin operated, I was very disappointed with the level of service.
They wouldn't let me in to the EUS firs class lounge until an hour before departure. I didn't see any such restriction when I booked the ticket, I have no doubt it's on the Avanti website somewhere it just wasn't obvious. That's fine for local passengers who know but I'd travelled on the non-stop flight from Australia and tubed it to Kings Cross before going to Euston. To say I was shagged after the flight would be an understatement. There are other factors involved but they don't need to be discussed here. All I wanted was to sit down in peace and quiet to start recovering. When they finally let me in I discovered they'd removed the self-serve, an attendant had to serve you. Job creation or stopping people from over-indulging?
On the train they ran out of beer, the food was worse than airline food in the 70s and the service less than stellar. What happened to the set table, the cloth napkins and the prompt service?
Coming back was no better and to compound the issue the Avanti First Class Lounge was closed, I did see, what appeared to be, Avanti staff entering and leaving but it didn't open while I was there.
Let's hope Avanti has upgraded more than the decor of the carriages.
did anyboby else see the media offline sign at 6:30?
I was like, "What on earth???"
So A: I'm in a very large electric wheelchair. B: I love pricks who put their luggage in my space. They have their seat allocation I have mine and I don't share. So I park my chair on top of their luggage, trying to damage it, but inevitably I block it in and if they want it out I tell them sorry mate, I'm not moving till my station comes up. This usually then involves the conductor, he first queries them and their inability to read signs, then he begs me to release the offending articles. All this time the train is stopped, the police are usually called, and eventually I give in. Now the conductor knows me, see's me coming and dumps their junk from my space, this includes strollers with kids in them. Strollers are not wheelchairs. So I have made a name for myself in our regional community, if traveling by train, stay away from the disabled area. If there is to much luggage, the conductor calls a maxi taxi, this is a taxi usually a big ass Toyota van with a hoist, it takes me to the door of my destination at the railways companies expense. But conductors are more on their toes, they know when I travel and they dress down idiot passengers that can't read the big wheelchair on the floor.
Class 390 some how go 140 mph or 155 mph that when I watch class 390 on Hs2 155 mph
More of a refresh than a refurb. Those reservation screens are very dated now and should have been replaced with something closer to the red/green lights on the ECML stock. Blue lighting is also not new. And the tasty meal service is better described as a light snack and nowhere near worth the price you pay for 1st class.
Don't get how it's a light snack, when it's a hot meal and a dessert, plus unlimited alcohol.
Fort Lauderdale Station has only two platforms and a population of 118,000 people lol
Let's get this right from the start : THE TRAINS ARE REFURBISHED, NOT NEW; stop saying there new, there not. They are 20 years old now.
The ticket machine thing is trenitalia's fault. Theyre the worst bloody things to need to rush and get a ticket on. Just give me my bloody ticket offers without extra faff, please. Not cool, FS.
Not as nice as the LNER trains imo.
Coventry is the best after rugby 🏉
You really describe their food as “tasty”? Lol
Definitely the worst terminus in London. It's dark with no seating and then those horrid ramps to the platforms. It has zero impact or sense of style about it.
Not much seems to have changed. I found the Standard Class least comfortable as any long distance train. They were claustrophobic, cramped and badly ventilated. For going from Birmingham to London give me London Northwestern or Chiltern even if they take a bit longer. Your video doesn’t give me any confidence that things have improved!
.no thanks much prefer mk2d coaches and mk1 open vehicles, so will never travel in these skips,
They were bumpy, noisy and the toilets were a literal hole in the floor, I much prefer trains nowadays (I'm 72)
Well fair enough, but you might struggle to do that, seeing as they don't run anymore.
These are terrible trains
No they're amazing.
The only thing I like a bit less are the seats and could have been padded more. Apart from that, top tier
@@CptnPhasma poor, I feel exhausted after a trip on them
@@andrewstorm8240 to be honest, if you're on any high-speed train and travelling quite a while on them, you always become tired after getting off. Happens all the time to me when I go on any high speed train