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This guy is spitting facts and the comments here are from people who can't face the truth. If you're not willing to do your research on everything he's said then you're just choosing to be ignorant. He challenged you to fact check him mid way through the video...none of you are willing to do it.
No he's not. He's parroting Bart and trying to say "every theologian will tell you" and that's simply not true. This guy came on with an agenda and only the simple minded take what he says at face value. The Bible however proves itself historically, prophetically and archaeologically yet you decide to believe these fringe little antichrists who try desperately to debunk the one book that no one is history has been able to do. You know what certainly makes no sense? That absolutely everything could come from absolutely nothing in a time and space that didn't even exist yet. Evolution doesn't have a vestigial leg to stand on. Try again.
just do a simple google search on what this guy said, no factual evidence or articles related to what this guy is saying. me personally I wouldn’t believe anything this guy talks about he’s just trying to get views.
Faith is everything. And I’m going to tell you in the 70’s my grandmother died for 5 minutes and back then they thought for sure she would have brain problems being literally flatlined, no pulse, eyes closed, gone for 5 minutes. They were able to get her back. She then told everyone in the room where they stood, where they walked in that room, what they did, what they said, not “your brain still works for 6 minutes after death thing”. Literally followed a nurses who was running all around the room grabbing paddles and everything else, she told them all what they were doing and saying. She told my mother who was sitting there the time when she got comfortable, my grandmother started telling my mother what happened. The nurses were talking to her as in, it’s ok, you’ve been through a lot. It was at that point she told everyone what they were doing, saying and where in the room they walked. There is absolutely no doubt what she went through and she said that it was the absolute most amazing and beautiful feeling she’d ever felt. Faith, is what will lead you to Heaven and eternal life. Do research as people have been attempting to destroy the Bible and the good news.
Well, the gospels are essentially testimonials from witnesses. Two people watch the same car crash, their testimonials are different. Skip ahead ten years when the trial actually happens, their memories are even more warped. Doesn't necessarily mean they both didn't witness the crash though. Honestly, this guy even with his smart critiques of these gospels is missing an even more fundamental point... why were these gospels picked when others just as old were floating around at the same time? Because the Bible had boneheaded editors who had the power to decide what to include - and they picked the stories they liked and which sold the version of the narrative they preferred. If folks want any chance of stumbling on the truth of those times, needs to find a way to read all the gospels, realize they're all probably 95% nonsense, and then use your gut to figure out which bits and pieces feel most right to you. Don't let as$hats in wizard robes tell you what is real, as they cash your donation checks and fondle your children lol
Duly Noted! Jude 1:14-15 NKJV Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [15] to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
If people wrote the Bible, then it is mostly full of nonsense. I do believe in a creator, but I don't believe in fairytales or a magical figure granting wishes. I believe everyone is responsible for their own actions and shouldn't rely on external forces for forgiveness or a better life. I've come to realize that I am the only one responsible for my choices. I acknowledge that my decisions, such as consuming unhealthy food or drugs, are the reasons for my physical and mental health issues. What has caused more suffering and wars #1 People believe that it's ok to be a “Pos”based on their religion being right. I understand that most people who go to church are trying to be good people and I commend that! But religion is what is holding enlightenment back! Just like POLITRICKS, I'm right and you're wrong is the same as my religion is right and yours is wrong all Bs!
They should have to rely on external forces because before Christianity, mercy was not a thing until it came along. Your rights in the USA are because of Christians beliefs, that's a fact. You don't have to convert but if it makes a person's life better than so be it. I do believe in a magical figure, why not, with as weird as society is today nothing is impossible besides believing in a creator is the same as believing in fairy tales. A mystical force, a mystical man? How's being spiritual any better? What has caused more suffering and wars? Resources, Women, Land, Racism, Entitlement, take your pic. Chimpanzee's go to war. Lots of people believe you have to be a good person in your religion you're looking at the few and judging the many. Religion is not holding them back, they are. Open their minds.
We don't have the original manuscripts but thousands of copies dating back to the earliest. These verses werent' added but part of previous texts that others didn't have.
He missed verse 6 which clearly states Jesus’ resurrection. “”Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.”” This is before the contested Verses 9-20
I’m not understanding that sentence. Truth, by definition IS good faith. How does one determine in or with whom or what to have any feelings or thoughts attached to any of those concepts I think you mean- but with words that all mean the same thing in one sentence.
@@jonasscottcowan9194 That’s what I’m sayin’. Agree. Depends upon the question &/or context of belief presented I suppose. The intention. Discernment of Intention.
@@jma8886 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….actually they added the 13 verses bc nobody believed he came back the original story of Jesus end at his death. They added the 12 verses this is an actual fact. Like it took me 30 secs to disprove you and I’m not even of your faith. Y’all love ignorance
Fact checker here: 1st century mark manuscript false, we don’t have a 1st century mark our earliest is a second or third century fragment. Complete copies start later, the ones we’ve found dating in the 4th century do not have 9-20. The ones we’ve found in the 5th century do. Both found manuscripts are dated hundreds of years after the death of Christ so What is to be done with this information, I have no idea. But God bless you. Lolol
@@Bividen The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….its truly sad y’all don’t study y’all own faith. I just provided why your 100% wrong study your faith don’t just read this is common knowledge like use google y’all don’t know more than historians it’s actually laughable
@@turnerxrashawn Uh oh, a WIKI Warrior spawned. A monk named Ephraim from the 900s noted in a Gospel manuscript that some copies of Mark end at 16:8, while many include 16:9-20. We have several of his manuscripts, identified by his handwriting. He copied existing marginal notes, including the one stating that while the verses are missing, “Eusebius of Pamphilus made canon sections”. The marginal notes also appears in at least 11 other Greek manuscripts, likely predating Ephraim by centuries. Modern translations highlight the uncertainty of Mark 16:9-20's authenticity. However, over 99% of surviving manuscripts, including 1,600+ Greek ones and early translations, contain these verses. Early church figures like Irenaeus (c. 180 CE), Justin Martyr, and Tatian acknowledged them, suggesting early acceptance. Mark 16:9-20 also has early support from numerous authors across the Roman Empire: Patrick in Ireland, Ambrose in Milan, Augustine in North Africa, Macarius Magnes (and the pagan author he addresses) in Asia Minor (SW Turkey), Aphrahat in Syria, and Eznik of Golb in Armenia. Moreover, the exclusion of these verses doesn't alter the Gospel's core message, as Mark mentions the resurrection in earlier verses (8:31, 9:30-31, 10:33-34, 14:28). Stick to something more in line with your level of intelligence - like picking your nose and finding new furniture to wipe it on.
Uh oh, a WIKI Warrior spawned. A monk named Ephraim from the 900s noted in a Gospel manuscript that some copies of Mark end at 16:8, while many include 16:9-20. We have several of his manuscripts, identified by his handwriting. He copied existing marginal notes, including the one stating that while the verses are missing, “Eusebius of Pamphilus made canon sections”. The marginal notes also appears in at least 11 other Greek manuscripts, likely predating Ephraim by centuries. Modern translations highlight the uncertainty of Mark 16:9-20's authenticity. However, over 99% of surviving manuscripts, including 1,600+ Greek ones and early translations, contain these verses. Early church figures like Irenaeus (c. 180 CE), Justin Martyr, and Tatian acknowledged them, suggesting early acceptance. Mark 16:9-20 also has early support from numerous authors across the Roman Empire: Patrick in Ireland, Ambrose in Milan, Augustine in North Africa, Macarius Magnes (and the pagan author he addresses) in Asia Minor (SW Turkey), Aphrahat in Syria, and Eznik of Golb in Armenia. Moreover, the exclusion of these verses doesn't alter the Gospel's core message, as Mark mentions the resurrection in earlier verses (8:31, 9:30-31, 10:33-34, 14:28). You should be more concerned with your failed rap career than theology lil dude
@@Bividen it was added amd it’s hella evidence to prove it and I didnt use Wikipedia you nerd lol do you want the link of a actual scholar breaking it down? You suffer from cognitive dissonance and it’s said that you are of a faith and you literally didn’t know that. That’s really actually sad.
@@Bividen you think you know more than Christian scholars you can’t use the Bible to defend the Bible, what logic does that make? That’s the reason nobody likes talking to you guys bc y’all ignore everything you are not a know it all. You literally a Christian and you celebrate pagan holidays I could never take you serious. You literally never studied the history of your faith and it shows. Lmao
Round and round you will go trying to figure out the bible. Just remember nobody has all the facts because things will continue to be lost and found forever.
I think it's fair to realize that no one can sit in the 21st century and meaningfully differentiate or prove what's what from the early manuscripts of the Bible. New Testament Scripture is written with inspiration from the Holy Spirit through the hands of the apostles in the early 1st century before lies slowly snuck into the world with new verisimilitude theology behind 6th century Islam. The Bible has never claimed to be written in chronological order. Perhaps there's a reason why the book of Matthew was put first in the concordance when the first book, as you claim (Mark) didn't have those last few verses (if you must believe your version of findings is true). No matter how hard anyone tries to degrade the truth in the Holy Bible, you will fail as millions before you have, not realizing where you're lead by the influences that corrupt your mind from understanding the true nature of the Bible and its message of great love and eternal hope through Jesus Christ. The truth is acceptable and believable to anyone seeking the Divine. The world has witnessed and many have experienced the creator God in the divinity of the Bible apart from its letters and passages. Seek and you shall find answers to your quests as well.
Crazy how blind and unwilling to hear other perspectives most commentators are. Yet, follow a channel all about the fringe, whether it’s government or religion it’s just hearsay.
Do you know the best way to tell if something is true or false ? All you need to do is see how the people peddling the story behave, themselves. If you really believed in the Bible. you would then have to believe in Angels and Demons, if you really believe in them then you also need to believe in Heaven and Hell. Now if you believe in these previous things, wouldn't you then live to how the Bible says too ? If you really believed if you didn't follow all the rules in the Bible that you could end up in Hell, you would have to be mentally ill to not follow the Bibles rules, as who on Earth would want to be tortured by Demons in Hell for even a minute let alone eternity ? Now take a look at a large portion of the leaders or pushers of the Bible and see how they live or lived. We have the Crusades that we can see how these people treated others as well as over the last 60 years or more on how Priests behaved with CHildren, I know of three friends that were special and treated better by the Priests than us kids that didn't believe, these Priests were allowed to be alone with these kids in their bedrooms for special lessons as well as go into the rooms in the back of the CHurch fr extra after class lessons. No different to our Scout leader and his special lessons for the gullible kids, whose parents were religious nuts as guess what the moron Parents would tell their Children ? Do what ever the Priest tells you to and don't misbehave and who do you think was punished if the Child tried to say they didn't want the Priest in their room or to do as the Priest said, religious parents were the worst ones I ever met growing up as they were so mentally challenged and either they just ignored what was going on or they thought it was okay ? We all know these days that what was whispered about or every kid that had a friend that was an alter boy or had to go to Church all the time, knew from what they said happened and yet nothing was ever really done about it, most was swept under the rug. Now we know how the Priests behaved and they are the ones pushing the BS about what will happen if you sin or do bad and even they don't follow the rules or laws, that proves for a fact that they don't believe in the Bible. The worst thing is that there is not one tiny sliver of proof for the Bible stories, they couldn't even give a round about date for when one of the Main characters was Born and yet they have a convoluted story about Wise men and GPS Stars as well as making a new born sleep in an animals feed trough, all sounds so credible to a Religious nut, not so much for anyone that has had a new Born child. Then we have the other convoluted story of the Crucifixion and again now round about date to say when it supposedly happened and then the Church changed what he was Crucified on from a single pole to a T shaped load of crap as a single post isn't a good enough symbol. It doesn't take very much research to find just how false the Bible really is. As well as what is normally the point of punishment ? If you stole something and then knew you would be tortured for the rest of your life, you would make sure you did something really worth the punishment. If you knew that all you hads to say was that God and Jesus never existed and so then for eternity and not just eternity at a normal time scale but that ever day in hell is equal to many days or years, makes absolutely no sense at all as eternity is forever, how does it make any sense to make the time in Hell any slower or faster lol, there is no point to the extent of the Punishment as you can never leave Hell, there has to be some form of intelligence to a punishment and it has to suit the crime, kill some one and you deserve to die, steal a loaf of bread to feed you starving children, cutting their hand off is going way over board as a loaf of bread when I was a kid was threepence, so back a few decades to a century or three, that Loaf would have cost almost nothing and yet they cut a thief's hand off. I think you need to be a really gullible and have a limited Intelligence to believe in something with not one fact, it's why they call it faith, if the CHurch had even the tiniest bit of proof, faith would no longer be required. With all the stories in the Bible, you would think that in all these Centuries of the Church searching for proof, that they would have found something.
And yet evolutionists defy their own logic and laws to justify never before seen, historical "science". For example, you would think that if spontaneous generation and abiogensis have both been thoroughly debunked as a sci-fi impossibility, then how much more should you not believe that absolutely everything came from absolutely nothing in a time and space that first had to exist to place it all in to begin with. The Bible however proves itself historically, prophetically and archaeologically yet you decide to believe these fringe little antichrists who try desperately to debunk the one book that no one is history has been able to do. You also clearly don't understand the Gospel and who are you to say Christians don't try to live holy? What are you basing that off of? We're going to be sinners until the day we die and only heretics preach that you can sin all you want just like prophesied would happen in the last days. One item debunks everything this guy said. The Shroud of Turin. Do some honest research to get honest answers. Also you can find the video evidence of Biblical archaelogically if you seek out Ron Wyatt's Discoveries on YT. You can't find if you don't seek and you won't seek if you're already biased.
These people believe that if you worship demons, they wont punish you. To them, worshipping the cube (demons) is a way to ensure that they never land in a bad place.
Not really. The sky can be blue, people can act like it is red, doesn't mean it is. Just because someone takes advantage of a situation doesn't mean it is not true. That's why they are a deviant. Aside from the "religious nuts" people tell this to their kids so they behave like any adult fabricates a story to get their child not to misbehave. It's not religious nuts that make their kids sleep in a trough, they didn't have technology and my guess were probably poor and on the road so you make do with what you have. There are things in the Bible that are true that you can find across all other texts: the flood. That DID happen. Everything else is up for debate. Also, no, because not everyone believes in the bible so they wouldn't care people live in the now and if they steal it is for their needs now. It's not just the Bible the Torah and Quran are guilty as well by your logic. The response is time is different with God so Hell is forever and doesn't think like us. No, you can definitely be intelligent and religious there are Christian scientists. If God made the world he made through the laws of physics, etc.
If i wasn't educated and actually knew more than this grifter it would be confusing indeed...😂 Jesus made us, died for us and defeated death. Believe in him and find meaning.
There is not a SINGLE WRITTEN DOCUMENT by the Romans about the existence of Jesus,..,not even one single peace of paper..., ZERO..!!..., think about this UNDENIABLE fact
@@johnkueneman9860 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon,
So many people are blind to the fact the bible isn't God's word at all. Christians are nice people, but their "faith" is required, not by God, but by themselves in order to convinced that what they read makes any sense and that Jesus is anything like the old Hebrew god "YHWH" in the OT.
Bro is just an atheist u can tell by his demeanor on the subject and his aggression . He’s aggressive trying to push this as true . A lot of people and the things they do/say are very readable .
@@fluid_shredz4298 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….is he an atheist or is he telling the truth and you don’t know about your own faith. Sad
So what? When God decided to have it all written down is irrelevant. Even if it was written down 100 years from the actual event, that's still considered a newsflash in antiquity. 100% inarguable proof of the resurrection is the very receipt He left behind ie the Shroud of Turin which has been proven without a shadow of doubt to be authentic. Seek Jesus and live!
God didn't write the bible, the devil did. yahweh is the devil and you are god trapped in a mortal body. even christ said not to trust god in the Nag Hammadi. In the banned gospels, there are clues to the truth. People say that the devils greatest trick is convincing you that he doesn't exist, but his greatest trick is convincing you that his name is different.
This is false. All books of the new testament were written directly by the disciples and John was the longest living disciple who died on the island of Patmos in 100AD and Revelations was written in 95Ad and it was the last book written. All books that came after that were not written by the disciples and are not authentic. Example is the Gospel of Thomas which is a false doctrine and wasn’t actually written by Thomas. Anyone who’s spent time knowing the history of the bible knows this.
@millifromdtx7814 Ditto. Go ahead and find us one author of a book actually in the new testament who was a disciple of Jesus and that lived after 100AD. Anything else is fraudulent. I’ll wait.
@millifromdtx7814 Actually only a few were skilled laborers (like fisherman) and most were educated (doctors, government workers etc.) and Paul who was the most prolific writer in the new testament was highly educated on religious matters and the old testament since he was a priest from the temple at the time and spent his initial years hunting and killing new christians until his dramatic salvation on the road to Damascus, and most never saw each other again after they separated from the day of pentecost in Acts and wrote their letters many years latter during their travels.
So where did this Theologian get his degree? Yeah... Thought so. A RUclipsr with an opinion. Damn, this is a disappointing episode. I'm not even really a Christian.
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This guy is spitting facts and the comments here are from people who can't face the truth.
If you're not willing to do your research on everything he's said then you're just choosing to be ignorant.
He challenged you to fact check him mid way through the video...none of you are willing to do it.
fr fr doe he be spiitin dat knowledge n facts bet ong
No he's not. He's parroting Bart and trying to say "every theologian will tell you" and that's simply not true. This guy came on with an agenda and only the simple minded take what he says at face value. The Bible however proves itself historically, prophetically and archaeologically yet you decide to believe these fringe little antichrists who try desperately to debunk the one book that no one is history has been able to do. You know what certainly makes no sense? That absolutely everything could come from absolutely nothing in a time and space that didn't even exist yet. Evolution doesn't have a vestigial leg to stand on. Try again.
just do a simple google search on what this guy said, no factual evidence or articles related to what this guy is saying. me personally I wouldn’t believe anything this guy talks about he’s just trying to get views.
The Bible only helps you look up to heaven for glorious answers! Why you seek the living among the dead?
Faith is everything. And I’m going to tell you in the 70’s my grandmother died for 5 minutes and back then they thought for sure she would have brain problems being literally flatlined, no pulse, eyes closed, gone for 5 minutes. They were able to get her back. She then told everyone in the room where they stood, where they walked in that room, what they did, what they said, not “your brain still works for 6 minutes after death thing”. Literally followed a nurses who was running all around the room grabbing paddles and everything else, she told them all what they were doing and saying. She told my mother who was sitting there the time when she got comfortable, my grandmother started telling my mother what happened. The nurses were talking to her as in, it’s ok, you’ve been through a lot. It was at that point she told everyone what they were doing, saying and where in the room they walked. There is absolutely no doubt what she went through and she said that it was the absolute most amazing and beautiful feeling she’d ever felt. Faith, is what will lead you to Heaven and eternal life. Do research as people have been attempting to destroy the Bible and the good news.
It’s the misguided evil that tries so hard to convince the world they are the good ones
My problem with “the bible” ( whichever version) is when I actually read it. What I read is non-sense. I can’t say that I believe in nonsense.
Next they will try and tell us Santa Claus isn't real 😒
Or that Grisly Adams didn't have a beard.
Well, the gospels are essentially testimonials from witnesses. Two people watch the same car crash, their testimonials are different. Skip ahead ten years when the trial actually happens, their memories are even more warped. Doesn't necessarily mean they both didn't witness the crash though. Honestly, this guy even with his smart critiques of these gospels is missing an even more fundamental point... why were these gospels picked when others just as old were floating around at the same time? Because the Bible had boneheaded editors who had the power to decide what to include - and they picked the stories they liked and which sold the version of the narrative they preferred. If folks want any chance of stumbling on the truth of those times, needs to find a way to read all the gospels, realize they're all probably 95% nonsense, and then use your gut to figure out which bits and pieces feel most right to you. Don't let as$hats in wizard robes tell you what is real, as they cash your donation checks and fondle your children lol
Duly Noted!
Jude 1:14-15 NKJV
Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [15] to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
It is the Holy Spirit that opens our eyes. Humble yourselves and pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you.
Not all people are supposed to return to the father everyone can believe what they want to believe.
If people wrote the Bible, then it is mostly full of nonsense. I do believe in a creator, but I don't believe in fairytales or a magical figure granting wishes. I believe everyone is responsible for their own actions and shouldn't rely on external forces for forgiveness or a better life. I've come to realize that I am the only one responsible for my choices. I acknowledge that my decisions, such as consuming unhealthy food or drugs, are the reasons for my physical and mental health issues. What has caused more suffering and wars #1 People believe that it's ok to be a “Pos”based on their religion being right. I understand that most people who go to church are trying to be good people and I commend that! But religion is what is holding enlightenment back! Just like POLITRICKS, I'm right and you're wrong is the same as my religion is right and yours is wrong all Bs!
They should have to rely on external forces because before Christianity, mercy was not a thing until it came along. Your rights in the USA are because of Christians beliefs, that's a fact. You don't have to convert but if it makes a person's life better than so be it. I do believe in a magical figure, why not, with as weird as society is today nothing is impossible besides believing in a creator is the same as believing in fairy tales. A mystical force, a mystical man? How's being spiritual any better? What has caused more suffering and wars? Resources, Women, Land, Racism, Entitlement, take your pic. Chimpanzee's go to war. Lots of people believe you have to be a good person in your religion you're looking at the few and judging the many. Religion is not holding them back, they are. Open their minds.
We don't have the original manuscripts but thousands of copies dating back to the earliest. These verses werent' added but part of previous texts that others didn't have.
He missed verse 6 which clearly states Jesus’ resurrection.
“”Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.””
This is before the contested Verses 9-20
Christian npcs coping
Believing something whether it’s true or not is not a lie… it is belief and faith
I’m not understanding that sentence. Truth, by definition IS good faith. How does one determine in or with whom or what to have any feelings or thoughts attached to any of those concepts I think you mean- but with words that all mean the same thing in one sentence.
Believing something with no concern whether it is true or not isn't faith it's willful ignorance and is dangerous.
🤯😂 Right? I know what you mean but it’s a cluster for sure
@@jonasscottcowan9194 That’s what I’m sayin’. Agree. Depends upon the question &/or context of belief presented I suppose. The intention. Discernment of Intention.
Not really interested in your opinions Dorks SMFH
the only thing in any of those types of books that is important ... Corinthians 1:13
Over 500 witnesses to the resurrection
Prove it
@@jma8886 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….actually they added the 13 verses bc nobody believed he came back the original story of Jesus end at his death. They added the 12 verses this is an actual fact. Like it took me 30 secs to disprove you and I’m not even of your faith. Y’all love ignorance
Most of this is common knowledge in Academic Bible studies, see Bart Erhman.
Fact checker here: 1st century mark manuscript false, we don’t have a 1st century mark our earliest is a second or third century fragment. Complete copies start later, the ones we’ve found dating in the 4th century do not have 9-20. The ones we’ve found in the 5th century do. Both found manuscripts are dated hundreds of years after the death of Christ so What is to be done with this information, I have no idea. But God bless you. Lolol
I would say this is intellectually dishonest, but there is nothing intellectual about it.
@@Bividen The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….its truly sad y’all don’t study y’all own faith. I just provided why your 100% wrong study your faith don’t just read this is common knowledge like use google y’all don’t know more than historians it’s actually laughable
@@turnerxrashawn Uh oh, a WIKI Warrior spawned. A monk named Ephraim from the 900s noted in a Gospel manuscript that some copies of Mark end at 16:8, while many include 16:9-20. We have several of his manuscripts, identified by his handwriting. He copied existing marginal notes, including the one stating that while the verses are missing, “Eusebius of Pamphilus made canon sections”. The marginal notes also appears in at least 11 other Greek manuscripts, likely predating Ephraim by centuries. Modern translations highlight the uncertainty of Mark 16:9-20's authenticity. However, over 99% of surviving manuscripts, including 1,600+ Greek ones and early translations, contain these verses. Early church figures like Irenaeus (c. 180 CE), Justin Martyr, and Tatian acknowledged them, suggesting early acceptance.
Mark 16:9-20 also has early support from numerous authors across the Roman Empire: Patrick in Ireland, Ambrose in Milan, Augustine in North Africa, Macarius Magnes (and the pagan author he addresses) in Asia Minor (SW Turkey), Aphrahat in Syria, and Eznik of Golb in Armenia. Moreover, the exclusion of these verses doesn't alter the Gospel's core message, as Mark mentions the resurrection in earlier verses (8:31, 9:30-31, 10:33-34, 14:28).
Stick to something more in line with your level of intelligence - like picking your nose and finding new furniture to wipe it on.
Uh oh, a WIKI Warrior spawned. A monk named Ephraim from the 900s noted in a Gospel manuscript that some copies of Mark end at 16:8, while many include 16:9-20. We have several of his manuscripts, identified by his handwriting. He copied existing marginal notes, including the one stating that while the verses are missing, “Eusebius of Pamphilus made canon sections”. The marginal notes also appears in at least 11 other Greek manuscripts, likely predating Ephraim by centuries. Modern translations highlight the uncertainty of Mark 16:9-20's authenticity. However, over 99% of surviving manuscripts, including 1,600+ Greek ones and early translations, contain these verses. Early church figures like Irenaeus (c. 180 CE), Justin Martyr, and Tatian acknowledged them, suggesting early acceptance.
Mark 16:9-20 also has early support from numerous authors across the Roman Empire: Patrick in Ireland, Ambrose in Milan, Augustine in North Africa, Macarius Magnes (and the pagan author he addresses) in Asia Minor (SW Turkey), Aphrahat in Syria, and Eznik of Golb in Armenia. Moreover, the exclusion of these verses doesn't alter the Gospel's core message, as Mark mentions the resurrection in earlier verses (8:31, 9:30-31, 10:33-34, 14:28).
You should be more concerned with your failed rap career than theology lil dude
@@Bividen it was added amd it’s hella evidence to prove it and I didnt use Wikipedia you nerd lol do you want the link of a actual scholar breaking it down? You suffer from cognitive dissonance and it’s said that you are of a faith and you literally didn’t know that. That’s really actually sad.
@@Bividen you think you know more than Christian scholars you can’t use the Bible to defend the Bible, what logic does that make? That’s the reason nobody likes talking to you guys bc y’all ignore everything you are not a know it all. You literally a Christian and you celebrate pagan holidays I could never take you serious. You literally never studied the history of your faith and it shows. Lmao
Round and round you will go trying to figure out the bible. Just remember nobody has all the facts because things will continue to be lost and found forever.
I think it's fair to realize that no one can sit in the 21st century and meaningfully differentiate or prove what's what from the early manuscripts of the Bible. New Testament Scripture is written with inspiration from the Holy Spirit through the hands of the apostles in the early 1st century before lies slowly snuck into the world with new verisimilitude theology behind 6th century Islam. The Bible has never claimed to be written in chronological order. Perhaps there's a reason why the book of Matthew was put first in the concordance when the first book, as you claim (Mark) didn't have those last few verses (if you must believe your version of findings is true). No matter how hard anyone tries to degrade the truth in the Holy Bible, you will fail as millions before you have, not realizing where you're lead by the influences that corrupt your mind from understanding the true nature of the Bible and its message of great love and eternal hope through Jesus Christ. The truth is acceptable and believable to anyone seeking the Divine. The world has witnessed and many have experienced the creator God in the divinity of the Bible apart from its letters and passages. Seek and you shall find answers to your quests as well.
Also refer to the first book of Peter chapter 1:3 and 21. It's written by Jesus' disciple Peter. Many more references by eyewitnesses.
Crazy how blind and unwilling to hear other perspectives most commentators are. Yet, follow a channel all about the fringe, whether it’s government or religion it’s just hearsay.
read the Nag Hammadi if you want some truth bombs. Christ himself said that you didn't know who you were praying to. Yahweh is actually the devil.
Do you know the best way to tell if something is true or false ?
All you need to do is see how the people peddling the story behave, themselves.
If you really believed in the Bible. you would then have to believe in Angels and Demons, if you really believe in them then you also need to believe in Heaven and Hell.
Now if you believe in these previous things, wouldn't you then live to how the Bible says too ?
If you really believed if you didn't follow all the rules in the Bible that you could end up in Hell, you would have to be mentally ill to not follow the Bibles rules, as who on Earth would want to be tortured by Demons in Hell for even a minute let alone eternity ?
Now take a look at a large portion of the leaders or pushers of the Bible and see how they live or lived.
We have the Crusades that we can see how these people treated others as well as over the last 60 years or more on how Priests behaved with CHildren, I know of three friends that were special and treated better by the Priests than us kids that didn't believe, these Priests were allowed to be alone with these kids in their bedrooms for special lessons as well as go into the rooms in the back of the CHurch fr extra after class lessons.
No different to our Scout leader and his special lessons for the gullible kids, whose parents were religious nuts as guess what the moron Parents would tell their Children ?
Do what ever the Priest tells you to and don't misbehave and who do you think was punished if the Child tried to say they didn't want the Priest in their room or to do as the Priest said, religious parents were the worst ones I ever met growing up as they were so mentally challenged and either they just ignored what was going on or they thought it was okay ?
We all know these days that what was whispered about or every kid that had a friend that was an alter boy or had to go to Church all the time, knew from what they said happened and yet nothing was ever really done about it, most was swept under the rug.
Now we know how the Priests behaved and they are the ones pushing the BS about what will happen if you sin or do bad and even they don't follow the rules or laws, that proves for a fact that they don't believe in the Bible.
The worst thing is that there is not one tiny sliver of proof for the Bible stories, they couldn't even give a round about date for when one of the Main characters was Born and yet they have a convoluted story about Wise men and GPS Stars as well as making a new born sleep in an animals feed trough, all sounds so credible to a Religious nut, not so much for anyone that has had a new Born child.
Then we have the other convoluted story of the Crucifixion and again now round about date to say when it supposedly happened and then the Church changed what he was Crucified on from a single pole to a T shaped load of crap as a single post isn't a good enough symbol.
It doesn't take very much research to find just how false the Bible really is.
As well as what is normally the point of punishment ? If you stole something and then knew you would be tortured for the rest of your life, you would make sure you did something really worth the punishment.
If you knew that all you hads to say was that God and Jesus never existed and so then for eternity and not just eternity at a normal time scale but that ever day in hell is equal to many days or years, makes absolutely no sense at all as eternity is forever, how does it make any sense to make the time in Hell any slower or faster lol, there is no point to the extent of the Punishment as you can never leave Hell, there has to be some form of intelligence to a punishment and it has to suit the crime, kill some one and you deserve to die, steal a loaf of bread to feed you starving children, cutting their hand off is going way over board as a loaf of bread when I was a kid was threepence, so back a few decades to a century or three, that Loaf would have cost almost nothing and yet they cut a thief's hand off.
I think you need to be a really gullible and have a limited Intelligence to believe in something with not one fact, it's why they call it faith, if the CHurch had even the tiniest bit of proof, faith would no longer be required.
With all the stories in the Bible, you would think that in all these Centuries of the Church searching for proof, that they would have found something.
And yet evolutionists defy their own logic and laws to justify never before seen, historical "science". For example, you would think that if spontaneous generation and abiogensis have both been thoroughly debunked as a sci-fi impossibility, then how much more should you not believe that absolutely everything came from absolutely nothing in a time and space that first had to exist to place it all in to begin with. The Bible however proves itself historically, prophetically and archaeologically yet you decide to believe these fringe little antichrists who try desperately to debunk the one book that no one is history has been able to do. You also clearly don't understand the Gospel and who are you to say Christians don't try to live holy? What are you basing that off of? We're going to be sinners until the day we die and only heretics preach that you can sin all you want just like prophesied would happen in the last days. One item debunks everything this guy said. The Shroud of Turin. Do some honest research to get honest answers. Also you can find the video evidence of Biblical archaelogically if you seek out Ron Wyatt's Discoveries on YT. You can't find if you don't seek and you won't seek if you're already biased.
These people believe that if you worship demons, they wont punish you. To them, worshipping the cube (demons) is a way to ensure that they never land in a bad place.
Not really. The sky can be blue, people can act like it is red, doesn't mean it is. Just because someone takes advantage of a situation doesn't mean it is not true. That's why they are a deviant. Aside from the "religious nuts" people tell this to their kids so they behave like any adult fabricates a story to get their child not to misbehave. It's not religious nuts that make their kids sleep in a trough, they didn't have technology and my guess were probably poor and on the road so you make do with what you have. There are things in the Bible that are true that you can find across all other texts: the flood. That DID happen. Everything else is up for debate.
Also, no, because not everyone believes in the bible so they wouldn't care people live in the now and if they steal it is for their needs now. It's not just the Bible the Torah and Quran are guilty as well by your logic. The response is time is different with God so Hell is forever and doesn't think like us. No, you can definitely be intelligent and religious there are Christian scientists. If God made the world he made through the laws of physics, etc.
If i wasn't educated and actually knew more than this grifter it would be confusing indeed...😂 Jesus made us, died for us and defeated death. Believe in him and find meaning.
There is not a SINGLE WRITTEN DOCUMENT by the Romans about the existence of Jesus,..,not even one single peace of paper..., ZERO..!!..., think about this UNDENIABLE fact
@@GoranKarafilovski not true - but ok...😂
Who is this guy?
This guy is wrong.
Christ is Truth
Psalm 82:6.
Danny should get some biblical scholars on to give a rebuttal.
Read the 5th book. Acts. First chapter. 😉
This guy is on the wrong side and trying to bring others along. This show has gotten way off base and pretty unwatchable.
Prove it. Go study the Bible before it was changed.
@@johnkueneman9860 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon,
@@johnkueneman9860 next time actually study your faith it’s no reason a person outside of your faith need to educate you on your faith smh
This show is becoming unwatchable.
Just do research my friend
Why? Cause you believe what you're told and not do your own research?
@@PhoenixBlackeamen
I'm pretty sure you're a Christian and this is scaring you to your core.
So many people are blind to the fact the bible isn't God's word at all. Christians are nice people, but their "faith" is required, not by God, but by themselves in order to convinced that what they read makes any sense and that Jesus is anything like the old Hebrew god "YHWH" in the OT.
Does this guy know what happened to Saul 😂
Bro is just an atheist u can tell by his demeanor on the subject and his aggression . He’s aggressive trying to push this as true . A lot of people and the things they do/say are very readable .
@@fluid_shredz4298 The earliest extant complete manuscripts of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, two 4th-century manuscripts, do not contain the last twelve verses, 16:9-20, nor the unversed shorter ending. Codex Vaticanus (4th century) has a blank column after ending at 16:8 and placing kata Markon, ….is he an atheist or is he telling the truth and you don’t know about your own faith. Sad
There are no 🤥 lies in the Bible 😊
So what? When God decided to have it all written down is irrelevant. Even if it was written down 100 years from the actual event, that's still considered a newsflash in antiquity. 100% inarguable proof of the resurrection is the very receipt He left behind ie the Shroud of Turin which has been proven without a shadow of doubt to be authentic. Seek Jesus and live!
God didn't write the bible, the devil did. yahweh is the devil and you are god trapped in a mortal body. even christ said not to trust god in the Nag Hammadi. In the banned gospels, there are clues to the truth. People say that the devils greatest trick is convincing you that he doesn't exist, but his greatest trick is convincing you that his name is different.
Bart Ehrman is the definition of debunked. lol Try again.
Spare me the rhetoric
The biggest lies are the first words of the bible
The BIBLE DOES NOT LIE!!! People’s interpretations do
You are correct but the writer’s plagiarized much from older traditions.
The bible is people's interpretations of older texts.
bible written in greek which has 250,000 words
hebrew has 8,000 words
english has 50,000 words
lost in translation is everything
This is false. All books of the new testament were written directly by the disciples and John was the longest living disciple who died on the island of Patmos in 100AD and Revelations was written in 95Ad and it was the last book written. All books that came after that were not written by the disciples and are not authentic. Example is the Gospel of Thomas which is a false doctrine and wasn’t actually written by Thomas. Anyone who’s spent time knowing the history of the bible knows this.
Dope.
Religion is a scourge upon humanity, imposed by a small group of outright psychopaths.
@millifromdtx7814 Ditto. Go ahead and find us one author of a book actually in the new testament who was a disciple of Jesus and that lived after 100AD. Anything else is fraudulent. I’ll wait.
@millifromdtx7814 Actually only a few were skilled laborers (like fisherman) and most were educated (doctors, government workers etc.) and Paul who was the most prolific writer in the new testament was highly educated on religious matters and the old testament since he was a priest from the temple at the time and spent his initial years hunting and killing new christians until his dramatic salvation on the road to Damascus, and most never saw each other again after they separated from the day of pentecost in Acts and wrote their letters many years latter during their travels.
what does gnostic mean?
So where did this Theologian get his degree? Yeah... Thought so. A RUclipsr with an opinion. Damn, this is a disappointing episode. I'm not even really a Christian.