its ALL ToysR US, unless theres mass production, but these type drones are TOO EXPENSIVE for UA... They need ingenious cheap makeshift solutions...NOT shiny 1st production run type "entrepreneur shitz"
There is already an Agreement between the Ministry of Defence and Ukraine to facilitate the supply of 10,000 British designed & manufactured drones to the battlefield. By the way, the UK has been supplying military drones to Ukraine since 2022, including Britsh 'Malloy' drones; the latter company is now part of BAE.
I bet this drone is already obsolete on arrival. In order to keep up with developments on the battlefield you have to be present on battlefield. Get yourself directly involved or fall hopelessly behind.
@@ЕгорБайченко-у1ш NO, they are not and let's try again with a repeat shall we......" By the way, the UK has been supplying military drones to Ukraine since 2022, including British 'Malloy' drones; the latter company is now part of BAE. ". So, our drones ARE involved and on the battlefield.
everything works under lab conditions but it needs to be tested in a war zone with the troops involved. How fortunate of russia to volunteer their tanks and planes to use as test bed items to prove it really works.
I'm surprised they are going down this route of expensive drones... if anything what's impressed me the most is how a basically off the shelf drone for around £500 and a grenade can take out a multi million pound tank. Surely this is the way forward? Just have lots of cheap drones with maybe some software to help navigation and anti jamming properties?
For your information the "expensive" drones are, already, about to enter service with the Royal Navy who required 'over the horizon' control to deliver an autonomous heavy lifting capability. That drone is the Malloy (BAE) T400 and not only is there a Heavy Lift cargo role but it has the (proven) capability, with an L3 drop cradle, to launch a BAE 'Stingray' torpedo. So, whilst you are correct about the battlefield use of small drones, there is now a service requirement for much larger drones. In the case of the Royal Navy the new in-service vertical lift drone capability is bordering on what the Westland Wasp helicopter used to do for them.
@@clivecartey Add to this the necessity for commanders in the field to be able to operate over the horizon in whatever mode your tech allows you to and the need for the, "Big toys" on top of the grenade tossing variant becomes more apparent. It's never a case of either or as some posters on here seem to think. It's more a case of covering every possible angle and layer upon layer of defence/offence. Thanks for the update on the Malloy system. I remember hearing about this capability a while back and then it all seemed to go quiet (frequently the British way I know).
They are not capable of taking supplies and ammo, carrying missiles, or evacuating wounded. The cheap drones are a good replacement for mortar and artillery. Think about the stuff they use pickup trucks for now, driving to the front lines under enemy fire. Phillip.
800lb lift capacity is a fully armed combat soldier complete with ammunition. A fleet of these could deliver a combat unit way behind enemy lines with their supplies and evacuate them when the job is done. This could cause mayhem. Ammunition could be brought rapidly to the front and on the return trip evacuate the wounded. This is truly a game-changer.
No offense ..its junk [ like all your toy's [ kiddie ] ... Example ..Yesterday TEST JUST ONE ... [ See NOTE 1 ] ... 18 Buildings disappeared at one time ..No concrete [ Strange effect ] Note 1 .. From Test calculated new Number to surface scrub Kiev go from 300 .. 425 ... raise Altitude [ no concrete is using more than needed $$/Kill but gets those nasty stains] WE are making a buffer where no man NOR beast shall live ...Stefan Bandara is no more
The next big jump is drone countermeasures, artillery quadcopter deployment (Firing a capsule containing a drone for rapid forward deployment), and drone barrier/nets/floating net deployment. The cost of halting a cheap drone attack needs to be close to the cost of the attack to balance out the asymmetric threat that the drone represents.
I saw a video recently in which the British claimed to now be the largest supplier of drones to Ukraine. The gauntlet's been laid down: Ukraine's allies should all be vying to take that top spot!
Needs to have anti jamming devices attached too! If your not long standoff these days you can get caught really quickly so fuel burn rate is an imperative as well!. All the same it looks very promising and is the future now.
My thoughts. Tanks are now going the route of horse mounted cavalry. As are fighter and bomber pilots. Snipers. Lots of other human tasks will be replaced by smart machines. Less loss of human life and lower costs.
I keep hearing this nonsense and you're partially correct the tank is going the same way as the battleship by incorporating more sophisticated active defences. Cavalry despite all the mythology was never effective in combat against disciplined troops their real value was in scouting and mobility they were rendered obsolete when mechanised units advanced enough to surpass them in these roles. Battleships never really became obsolete so much as they became less and less cost effective it was the range advantages of aircraft carriers that saw them supercede the battleships rather than firepower. A battleship taskforce could annihilate a similar sized carrier group with ease if it could get close enough however the carrier groups better long range fire power and situational awareness would strip the battle group of it's smaller units weakening it's air defence umbrella untill they could land enough firepower to defeat even the battleships heavy armour. This was exactly the battle the Argentine navy attempted in the Falklands war if the general Belgrano and it's escorting destroyers had managed to get close to the more modern and numerous but lightly armoured British fleet they could have landed a devastating blow if bad weather hadn't prevented their own carrier group from launching the planned diversionary attack and HMS conquerer hadn't spotted them they would have pulled ot off.
@@ianjardine7324 Fighting wars has drastically changed over the last couple of years. Trying to fight a future war based on what worked in the past is a recipe for failure.
This video never mentioned the range of the drone. The combat range is less than half of the absolute range so it can be refueled and re-armed. Move it quickly while doing so. Very quickly. Or wait at a distance until the hit is made to see if it recoverable, or have a second one ready to defend the refueling point. This might also be the answer to the SHAHED drone. IDK the cost comparison of a Brimstone to a SHAHED, but the value of the target of the SHAHED should be factored in. Is there a dedicated anti-SHAHED munition that can be adapted to that purpose?
Nah, it’s going to cost a million quid a pop if any UK company built it😂 got to earn another Bentley for the board members 😂 the Ukraine drones cost 1500 they are disposable and take out vehicles worth hundreds of thousands more. This crap is typical British gold plating 😂😂😂😂😂
This is just another military advertisement video, they always show it hitting the exact target perfectly and make it look like a game changer. They do this to get millions and billions in funding, and they are never as perfect as the video shows, and their costs always blow out.
The most ridiculous thing is the jet engines bolted to the side. These are the *least* efficient way to add extra lifting capacity. However, knowing how government funding works, it probably wowed a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats who went "ooh... jets... give them more money".
The objective is heavy lift. What prop only drone that size can lift 800 lbs? Engineers designed this, the military expressed an interest before r after the design but all long before a politician even knows about it. Clearly you don't know how government funding of military projects work.
These are small light jets with a totally different way to increase pressure in the combustion chamber. You should listen more closely before you criticize based on misconceptions about the jets efficiency.
Now that the Ukrainian, Russian war is over two years old evolution has ended up with inexpensive various types of drones that the British have supplied to the Ukraine forces by the thousand relatively easy to operate they are very cost-effective in comparison to for example, nlaw’s, javelins and other missile systems?🇬🇧🏴🇺🇦👏😄
Vt 40 is by far the biggest killer on the battlefield , they so effective the west dare not even show it’s carnage . No trench , bunker , building or vehicle is safe .
@@pauldean8638 is that what Putin‘s men do to you when mounting you from behind and when you say stop, they say no and carry on you are probably a person who would perceive it it better to receive than give?
I think there will be a place for a range of UAVs in the Modern War environment, whilst expensive drones with specific functions will be needed, this one is pretty versatile, but i expect too expensive for mass adoption..... ideally you need a "family" of drones, that hit various different price points, depending on eventual use, for instance, swarms or meshes of very low cost drones, controlled by a mother ship (the Hydra 400 maybe_) starts to get very interesting.......
The problem here is the arms developers still want to produce overpriced solutions. This thing will likely cost 100K £ + and so does each of the Brimstone missiles. That is moving 400K+ to the front risking it on the way and while in use to pay 100K for each high chance tank destruction. When Ukraine can likely do the same with like 3-4 1000 £ Kamikaze drones. And if they get lost on the way to the front or before they get used it is no real loss. The military industry has to change to provide effective and cheap system that can be delivered in 10.000 orders with ease.
I agree entirely. The other UK options shown elsewhere have the same disadvantage, high cost. The 6 jet engines as well rack up cost and maintenance complications. This will likely not make it into full production as it is too expensive and too complex for battlefield operation. Could be useful on warships.
Right possibly as a sentry drone for ships. But yea a very special case and very few production numbers. If they want to make medium size/cost drones then make them use cheap dumb weapons so military can use them again and again and train all day long outside war. @@glynnwadeson5605
You make a good point. But are you not considering that only at present cheap military drones are so cost effective, and so new to warfare that 'the defence' has yet to catch up in terms of doctrine and counter measures. The race is on and no one can afford to be left behind.
@@joealp8196 True, no one knows what the counter will be to cheap drones and if this will be just as effective at countering this big drone as well. So until we are at least getting a lot closer and can identify what this counter, will be it is stupid to try make a system to bypass it as well. Like trying to make a stealth jet against a sensor system post radar, even though we do not know what this would be yet.
The drone looks like a missile launcher (Brimstone) to rise up vertically into the sky and enable a long distance range of the missile. Safer and easier than a helicopter. Good job I'd say. With jet power too!
Combine it with ground based drone cargo vehicles which carry replacement pods, and the ability to swap out it's own pods. It could ferry small ground drones to the front lines, various ground based area defense and denial kiosks and other weapons payloads. It is the right scale to deliver fully autonomous warfare air and ground at the front line and behind enemy lines.
Thank you for the info! Amazing what you can come up with now as a power user. That is taking all of these different off the shelf technologies and seamlessly integrating them to function as a greater as a whole platform is awesome. Last thing, I didnt catch, are the jets able to produce electricity too? That would be the best combo, a true Hybrid Mothership could hover and support, carry, RECHARGE, possibly re-arm, smaller fighter drones. The equivalent of a drone aircraft carrier.( I wrote that bigly to make a point)
We need an radio that switches frequencies rapidly for guidance and solid state unit that switches the freq no matter what other things do allowing for guided flights without interference
Frequency hopping is already a thing, even Bluetooth does it. Using the gps clock for syncing is fairly trivial, the only caveat is the doppler effect, they'll have to compensate for that, but other than that 100ms or even 10ms hoping should be fairly easy to do Sending on multiple bands is also an option to avoid desync
Hundreds of explosive drones Hitting different areas in the battle field will make the enemies panic can also Have smoke drones to blind the enemy so the soldiers can move closer or can parachute down to give them cover the drone can 4 smoke bombs
It's just nice to know at least some part of my country's infrastructure operates in reality & knows who our current enemies are,how they like to operate & then find,it has to be said but a really "Cool method",to cause maximum damage to the hardest of underground bunkers (that's the primary target designation IMO) or for individual foot traffic targets or small fast moving vehicles (secondary targets IMO) in built up civilian areas whilst minimising civilian deaths & at the same time protecting the lives of allied troops & assets. Did i mention how cool it is!? For those that might say; "You find machines of death cool?"..... "Yes,yes i do but not all,some are ugly!" Oh yeah,i enjoyed the content as well,just subbed. 👍
Now that is cool, I have talked about doing something similar a while ago on another channel, but some said a drone wouldn't be able to carry all that weight, however I don't think they realized that there were already drones capable of carrying payloads of significant weight! I believe Ukraine could make good use of a drone capable of firing anti-tank missiles, among other things like supply drops, casualty EVAC and of course other weapon types, though I'm aware they already have drones that do similar duties!
4:14 I’m fairly sure it isn’t 180 millimeters in length. That would be about 7 inches long. I’m guessing it’s 180 centimeters which would be 70 inches long. 180 millimeters in diameter is correct, and the weight.
The length of the missile was a mistake, right? I mean, obviously. It can't be as long as it's own diameter... But how long is it? I could Google for myself but for that I would have to minimize YT and it often crashes when I do that...
Recently a Buk radar vehicle was struck and the rumor is it may have been just this drone platform that delivered the brimstone. I suppose we'll see when other high value targets get taken out without other logical ordinance with range and distrustful capabilities
It would be good if it could intelligently detach and stash its load on the battlefield while it quickly collects an injured soldier in an emergency before returning to reattach its load again.
@@A2Z1Two3 That Aircraft was the Panavia Tornado designed in the mid 70's coming into service in 1979 belonging to the UK Royal Air Force which as I said was retired from RAF service 5 years ago in 2019 so not sure which company you are talking about
This sort of thing might just make war as unthinkable as nuclear weapons did. They can come in swarms, are cheap (so anyone can have them) and therefore devastating, making conventional war unwinnable.
Australia is testing its anti-drone laser. It’s highly mobile, good for 50 shots before recharge and can take down small and medium drones with pinpoint automatic accuracy . What defence do these drones have against that technology?
Range. Mobile anti-drone lasers typically only have a range of a few hundred meters. These brimstone missiles have a range of at least 10km (depending on the version it can even be way more).
@@tobiasrietveld3819 Fractyl:2, it’s man portable (just) with a range of 2km with 1mm accuracy. If it’s connected to a power source then it operates continuously with virtually zero cost for each ‘shot’. Surely that’s the end of smaller drones?
@@seanlander9321 Do you have any videos of that? All examples I've seen of laser weapons have been at relatively stationary targets (or targets following a steady course) close by and in excellent conditions. I'm guessing the power source isn't normally a home socket. Would a reflective surface reduce the effectiveness?
it the price of these things 400 dollar drones are blasting million dollar tanks the military should be partning with ukranine companies thats where todays best expertise is
This is a break through in return on investment. For instance Cost to train an Apache pilot = $3 Million USD, cost of Apache = $35-50 million USD, Cost to fly an Apache for one hour=$3,500 USD.....................cost of Hydr Drone $1 million (guess)..............so for one Apache, I can get approximately 50-60 drones, no pilot training, no pilot salary or retention bonus, no sick days, no $3,500 per hour flight maintenance cost...............NO RISK to humans means more aggressive engagement, short war or battle. I don't know, but from a USMC veteran, sounds like a dam good option
In the video (at the 4:12 timestamp), it states the dimensions of the Brimstone missel as: Length - 180mm Weight - 110LB / 50KG Diameter - 180mm I’m no expert, but that missel doesn’t look to be only 180 MM long (maybe 180 CMS)
An improvement for greater lift would be to use toroidal propellers instead. Perhaps the jets could be used for emergency lift in case of incoming close missile attack.
With all do respect. These new drones look interesting. However, I don't see how these devises could be made cheap. I mean like under 1000 bucks cheap. The heavier they are, the more stuff you put on them, the more valuable they will be and harder to get with traditional, typical supply line politics. I have seen YtubE video's on this so I don't think it is a secret. The Ukrainian general that is in charge of drones has a standing order that each unit have 20 drones ready to go at a moments notice. They get them from wherever they can. They know how to take them apart. Modify them for their purposes. They can retrofit and use captured ones. They can use ones that come in the mail. How is a skunkworks, halfway around the world, going to deliver virtually unlimited numbers of them for a few hundred bucks each? I don't buy it.
I mean that looks promising, but one crucial info missing from this video is the autonomy in runtime, cause most commercial drones can only operate for 15 minutes, so I would imagine it's longer for military uses, but I wonder if it can really be useful if it cannot fly for at least an hour
well, those drones aren't really that successful. You will note that they are generally only successful when the tanks hatches are open and the tank is not moving....usually abandoned tanks.
Challenger 2 tanks hit after by 10 inch fpv drones strapped with rpg warheads. It makes you wander why our transport authorities are pressing remoteid on flying toys for fun. @@cplcabs
Looks like it will be easy to shoot down. I bet that, seeing that it is for the British forces, that it will be ridiculously expensive to purchase and run and probably underperform in every aspect of operation compared to the hype.
They are just toying things together making a media thing. It would not be a good idea to mix electric and turbines, more effective to go all in for one of the alternatives. Drones need to be cheap and many as they often fail because of electric jamming defenses, this thing is very expensive. They could have made a similar drone more cheaply with the ability to carry the missiles. The missiles seem quite good though.
@4:11 the missile has a length of 180mm @4:18 the missile has a diameter of 180mm leave it up to the brits to come up with a really funky looking missile. in the US we would call it a volley ball.
What am I misunderstanding here 2:29; I would think that when the electromagnetic spectrum is hotly contested, it would be the remote piloting that would fail, and automation would take over...?
Ain't that nice? Keep up the good work UK.!
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its ALL ToysR US, unless theres mass production, but these type drones are TOO EXPENSIVE for UA... They need ingenious cheap makeshift solutions...NOT shiny 1st production run type "entrepreneur shitz"
Before they can make any claims how good it will be, field tests in Ukraine to prove it’s worth would be a good idea.
There is already an Agreement between the Ministry of Defence and Ukraine to facilitate the supply of 10,000 British designed & manufactured drones to the battlefield. By the way, the UK has been supplying military drones to Ukraine since 2022, including Britsh 'Malloy' drones; the latter company is now part of BAE.
I bet this drone is already obsolete on arrival. In order to keep up with developments on the battlefield you have to be present on battlefield. Get yourself directly involved or fall hopelessly behind.
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@@ЕгорБайченко-у1ш NO, they are not and let's try again with a repeat shall we......" By the way, the UK has been supplying military drones to Ukraine since 2022, including British 'Malloy' drones; the latter company is now part of BAE. ". So, our drones ARE involved and on the battlefield.
You think they are not there ???
I saw the test against small boats, all I can say is 100pc success. It was devastating.
everything works under lab conditions but it needs to be tested in a war zone with the troops involved. How fortunate of russia to volunteer their tanks and planes to use as test bed items to prove it really works.
I'm surprised they are going down this route of expensive drones... if anything what's impressed me the most is how a basically off the shelf drone for around £500 and a grenade can take out a multi million pound tank. Surely this is the way forward? Just have lots of cheap drones with maybe some software to help navigation and anti jamming properties?
For your information the "expensive" drones are, already, about to enter service with the Royal Navy who required 'over the horizon' control to deliver an autonomous heavy lifting capability. That drone is the Malloy (BAE) T400 and not only is there a Heavy Lift cargo role but it has the (proven) capability, with an L3 drop cradle, to launch a BAE 'Stingray' torpedo.
So, whilst you are correct about the battlefield use of small drones, there is now a service requirement for much larger drones. In the case of the Royal Navy the new in-service vertical lift drone capability is bordering on what the Westland Wasp helicopter used to do for them.
yep imagine when they start launching these cheap drones thousands at one time.
@@clivecartey Add to this the necessity for commanders in the field to be able to operate over the horizon in whatever mode your tech allows you to and the need for the, "Big toys" on top of the grenade tossing variant becomes more apparent. It's never a case of either or as some posters on here seem to think. It's more a case of covering every possible angle and layer upon layer of defence/offence. Thanks for the update on the Malloy system. I remember hearing about this capability a while back and then it all seemed to go quiet (frequently the British way I know).
They are not capable of taking supplies and ammo, carrying missiles, or evacuating wounded. The cheap drones are a good replacement for mortar and artillery. Think about the stuff they use pickup trucks for now, driving to the front lines under enemy fire.
Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841 All of hat is about to change it seems.
800lb lift capacity is a fully armed combat soldier complete with ammunition. A fleet of these could deliver a combat unit way behind enemy lines with their supplies and evacuate them when the job is done. This could cause mayhem. Ammunition could be brought rapidly to the front and on the return trip evacuate the wounded. This is truly a game-changer.
They could also be used to deliver aid.
Yeah but that only makes sense if a small fleet of these drones is cheaper than a helicopter that could carry the unit.
Or evacuate the wounded.
I wouldn't like to be under 6 jet engines pointed at me
lol u nuts? a soldier with his weapon and ammo NEVER exceeds the 300Lbs threshold...800 pounds wtf you talkin bout hahaha!!
How times have changed, it used to be car reviews and now its drone reviews.
"If a man don't grow, he dies"
-Boss Hogg
No offense ..its junk [ like all your toy's [ kiddie ] ... Example ..Yesterday TEST JUST ONE ... [ See NOTE 1 ] ... 18 Buildings disappeared at one time ..No concrete [ Strange effect ]
Note 1 .. From Test calculated new Number to surface scrub Kiev go from 300 .. 425 ... raise Altitude [ no concrete is using more than needed $$/Kill but gets those nasty stains]
WE are making a buffer where no man NOR beast shall live ...Stefan Bandara is no more
Didn't see much of the drone here, it was mainly about the missile.
So true :) Besides the practical/military use I really do like the multi drone light shows.
Ah but you get more deaths per machine potentially with drones. This is just puerile shite....
Give them to Ukraine
It would be worthwhile ask the Ukranian drone gurus about this design
Why give them to Ukraine when you can SELL them to Russia!
We probably only have four. This must be an old programme since the RAF retired the Tornado in 2018.
Absolutely not.
Would be a waste we’ve given them enough
Its amazing how we can put so much effort into killing each other.
Don`t cry.
its ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY- a boys mind is FILLED with ideas about killing machines...epigenetics, its anchored in our LIZZO brain^^
The next big jump is drone countermeasures, artillery quadcopter deployment (Firing a capsule containing a drone for rapid forward deployment), and drone barrier/nets/floating net deployment.
The cost of halting a cheap drone attack needs to be close to the cost of the attack to balance out the asymmetric threat that the drone represents.
Thanks, Military World. It looks to be a great product, can't wait to see it in action.
Needs testing on some Russian test dummies in Ukraine.
I saw a video recently in which the British claimed to now be the largest supplier of drones to Ukraine.
The gauntlet's been laid down: Ukraine's allies should all be vying to take that top spot!
Well said. Slava Ukraini!
@@stephenmuir5030 not sure thats true concidering they are all 3d printed in country.
No shortage of supply...
Robert the supporter of nazzis. How sad.
Needs to have anti jamming devices attached too!
If your not long standoff these days you can get caught really quickly so fuel burn rate is an imperative as well!.
All the same it looks very promising and is the future now.
That box is ticked.
My thoughts. Tanks are now going the route of horse mounted cavalry.
As are fighter and bomber pilots. Snipers. Lots of other human tasks will be replaced by smart machines. Less loss of human life and lower costs.
I keep hearing this nonsense and you're partially correct the tank is going the same way as the battleship by incorporating more sophisticated active defences. Cavalry despite all the mythology was never effective in combat against disciplined troops their real value was in scouting and mobility they were rendered obsolete when mechanised units advanced enough to surpass them in these roles. Battleships never really became obsolete so much as they became less and less cost effective it was the range advantages of aircraft carriers that saw them supercede the battleships rather than firepower. A battleship taskforce could annihilate a similar sized carrier group with ease if it could get close enough however the carrier groups better long range fire power and situational awareness would strip the battle group of it's smaller units weakening it's air defence umbrella untill they could land enough firepower to defeat even the battleships heavy armour. This was exactly the battle the Argentine navy attempted in the Falklands war if the general Belgrano and it's escorting destroyers had managed to get close to the more modern and numerous but lightly armoured British fleet they could have landed a devastating blow if bad weather hadn't prevented their own carrier group from launching the planned diversionary attack and HMS conquerer hadn't spotted them they would have pulled ot off.
@@ianjardine7324
Fighting wars has drastically changed over the last couple of years. Trying to fight a future war based on what worked in the past is a recipe for failure.
This video is 25% Drone and 75% brimstone missile...
I'm convinced that 90% pf the material on You tube is put up by 12 year olds. Hey, I'm watching it so...
This video never mentioned the range of the drone. The combat range is less than half of the absolute range so it can be refueled and re-armed. Move it quickly while doing so. Very quickly. Or wait at a distance until the hit is made to see if it recoverable, or have a second one ready to defend the refueling point. This might also be the answer to the SHAHED drone. IDK the cost comparison of a Brimstone to a SHAHED, but the value of the target of the SHAHED should be factored in. Is there a dedicated anti-SHAHED munition that can be adapted to that purpose?
It did drone on.
The drone was built around the brimstone so why wouldn’t they take time to talk about the brimstones capabilities?
with a length of 180mm and a diameter of 180mm....
The Hydra really looks like it would kick butt on just about anything on the battlefield. Looks like we have a winner.
Be good if it could carry a defence like a mini version of the DragonFire - I guess thats 10+ years away
I think you are correct in your logic Sir. @@niv8880
Nah, it’s going to cost a million quid a pop if any UK company built it😂 got to earn another Bentley for the board members 😂 the Ukraine drones cost 1500 they are disposable and take out vehicles worth hundreds of thousands more. This crap is typical British gold plating 😂😂😂😂😂
YOU have a valid point fella. @@billpugh58
This is just another military advertisement video, they always show it hitting the exact target perfectly and make it look like a game changer. They do this to get millions and billions in funding, and they are never as perfect as the video shows, and their costs always blow out.
The most ridiculous thing is the jet engines bolted to the side. These are the *least* efficient way to add extra lifting capacity. However, knowing how government funding works, it probably wowed a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats who went "ooh... jets... give them more money".
The objective is heavy lift.
What prop only drone that size can lift 800 lbs?
Engineers designed this, the military expressed an interest before r after the design but all long before a politician even knows about it.
Clearly you don't know how government funding of military projects work.
@@IMGreg..government funding of any project has a very long history of expensive over runs
A nice heat signature with a jet engine!!!...Great for detection!!
No secret operations with a bunch of jet engines screaming away!
These are small light jets with a totally different way to increase pressure in the combustion chamber. You should listen more closely before you criticize based on misconceptions about the jets efficiency.
Now that the Ukrainian, Russian war is over two years old evolution has ended up with inexpensive various types of drones that the British have supplied to the Ukraine forces by the thousand relatively easy to operate they are very cost-effective in comparison to for example, nlaw’s, javelins and other missile systems?🇬🇧🏴🇺🇦👏😄
Reap what u sow
@@EnlightenedAtheistPhotog-mh1tyok Russian bot. Tell little man (Putin) the world order is turning against him.
Vt 40 is by far the biggest killer on the battlefield , they so effective the west dare not even show it’s carnage . No trench , bunker , building or vehicle is safe .
@@pauldean8638 is that what Putin‘s men do to you when mounting you from behind and when you say stop, they say no and carry on you are probably a person who would perceive it it better to receive than give?
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The battlefield's already changed forever.
I think there will be a place for a range of UAVs in the Modern War environment, whilst expensive drones with specific functions will be needed, this one is pretty versatile, but i expect too expensive for mass adoption..... ideally you need a "family" of drones, that hit various different price points, depending on eventual use, for instance, swarms or meshes of very low cost drones, controlled by a mother ship (the Hydra 400 maybe_) starts to get very interesting.......
4:10 diameter not length. Length is 1.8m or 1800mm
I was thinking 18cm seems ridiculous, like a small firework.
Same length and diameter, a cube or a sphere. Not a good shape for aerodynamics.😮
The problem here is the arms developers still want to produce overpriced solutions.
This thing will likely cost 100K £ + and so does each of the Brimstone missiles.
That is moving 400K+ to the front risking it on the way and while in use to pay 100K for each high chance tank destruction.
When Ukraine can likely do the same with like 3-4 1000 £ Kamikaze drones.
And if they get lost on the way to the front or before they get used it is no real loss.
The military industry has to change to provide effective and cheap system that can be delivered in 10.000 orders with ease.
I agree entirely. The other UK options shown elsewhere have the same disadvantage, high cost. The 6 jet engines as well rack up cost and maintenance complications. This will likely not make it into full production as it is too expensive and too complex for battlefield operation. Could be useful on warships.
Right possibly as a sentry drone for ships. But yea a very special case and very few production numbers.
If they want to make medium size/cost drones then make them use cheap dumb weapons so military can use them again and again and train all day long outside war. @@glynnwadeson5605
You make a good point. But are you not considering that only at present cheap military drones are so cost effective, and so new to warfare that 'the defence' has yet to catch up in terms of doctrine and counter measures. The race is on and no one can afford to be left behind.
@@joealp8196 True, no one knows what the counter will be to cheap drones and if this will be just as effective at countering this big drone as well.
So until we are at least getting a lot closer and can identify what this counter, will be it is stupid to try make a system to bypass it as well.
Like trying to make a stealth jet against a sensor system post radar, even though we do not know what this would be yet.
australian miltary developed a flar pack cardbord drone for suppy drop ukraine used one to raid an airfeild
That's pretty neat!
So, the title is about a drone, but the video is about the Brimstone missile.
Sounds good. But I like the Australian flat pack cardboard drones. These are dirt cheap but effective. Cost is paramount here.
RAF Tornado -I don't think so. Not anymore.
Would you rather be attacked by a Tornado or a Typhoon ?
I believe they have previously been used to arm Tornado aircraft.
Since I live by the sea only one is likelyto be attacking me. The other - Kansas can have them.@@chrissmith2114
@@chrissmith2114 No danger of being attacked by an RAF Tornado ... since we don't have any anymore ... went out of service in 2019.
The drone looks like a missile launcher (Brimstone) to rise up vertically into the sky and enable a long distance range of the missile. Safer and easier than a helicopter. Good job I'd say. With jet power too!
Brinstone II range from hovering launch reported 40+ Km !!!
Combine it with ground based drone cargo vehicles which carry replacement pods, and the ability to swap out it's own pods. It could ferry small ground drones to the front lines, various ground based area defense and denial kiosks and other weapons payloads. It is the right scale to deliver fully autonomous warfare air and ground at the front line and behind enemy lines.
Thank you for the info! Amazing what you can come up with now as a power user. That is taking all of these different off the shelf technologies and seamlessly integrating them to function as a greater as a whole platform is awesome. Last thing, I didnt catch, are the jets able to produce electricity too? That would be the best combo, a true Hybrid Mothership could hover and support, carry, RECHARGE, possibly re-arm, smaller fighter drones. The equivalent of a drone aircraft carrier.( I wrote that bigly to make a point)
We need an radio that switches frequencies rapidly for guidance and solid state unit that switches the freq no matter what other things do allowing for guided flights without interference
Frequency hopping is already a thing, even Bluetooth does it.
Using the gps clock for syncing is fairly trivial, the only caveat is the doppler effect, they'll have to compensate for that, but other than that 100ms or even 10ms hoping should be fairly easy to do
Sending on multiple bands is also an option to avoid desync
@@satibelSince WW 2 with torpedos. Not a new thing.
Frequency Hopping Technolgy patented in WW2 by actress Hedy Lamar !😮
Hundreds of explosive drones Hitting different areas in the battle field will make the enemies panic can also Have smoke drones to blind the enemy so the soldiers can move closer or can parachute down to give them cover the drone can 4 smoke bombs
Great to put it on the tube so the Ruskis and Chinese can see.
It's just nice to know at least some part of my country's infrastructure operates in reality & knows who our current enemies are,how they like to operate & then find,it has to be said but a really "Cool method",to cause maximum damage to the hardest of underground bunkers (that's the primary target designation IMO) or for individual foot traffic targets or small fast moving vehicles (secondary targets IMO) in built up civilian areas whilst minimising civilian deaths & at the same time protecting the lives of allied troops & assets.
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Brinstone II range from hovering launch reported 40+ Km ! Re-defines drone operations totally.
Wow, finally a drone to rule them all... riiiight.
And we will need hundreds of these ! Now!
Excellent.
Now that is cool, I have talked about doing something similar a while ago on another channel, but some said a drone wouldn't be able to carry all that weight, however I don't think they realized that there were already drones capable of carrying payloads of significant weight! I believe Ukraine could make good use of a drone capable of firing anti-tank missiles, among other things like supply drops, casualty EVAC and of course other weapon types, though I'm aware they already have drones that do similar duties!
Weapons in any war must have good diff. equation properties. How fast can it be innovated and how fast can they be created vs enemy strategy.
4:14 I’m fairly sure it isn’t 180 millimeters in length. That would be about 7 inches long. I’m guessing it’s 180 centimeters which would be 70 inches long. 180 millimeters in diameter is correct, and the weight.
Maybe we should keep the pictures of the inner parts off the internet?
Apparently it's impossible to jam so this is lethal with Brimstones!
Necessity is the mother of invention....I hope it works out!
Brilliant bit of kit.
Impressive! Now if they can only make it 'stealthy'.
Whhaaat? Crazy thing! Over 800 pounds, thats insane for such a concept... Nice!
The length of the missile was a mistake, right? I mean, obviously. It can't be as long as it's own diameter... But how long is it? I could Google for myself but for that I would have to minimize YT and it often crashes when I do that...
Recently a Buk radar vehicle was struck and the rumor is it may have been just this drone platform that delivered the brimstone.
I suppose we'll see when other high value targets get taken out without other logical ordinance
with range and distrustful capabilities
It would be good if it could intelligently detach and stash its load on the battlefield while it quickly collects an injured soldier in an emergency before returning to reattach its load again.
4:50 This aircraft was retired 5 years ago
Strange that , the company was only formed in 2019 😂
It was displayed only in 2023.
Do you make a habit of posting trash ? 😮
@@A2Z1Two3 That Aircraft was the Panavia Tornado designed in the mid 70's coming into service in 1979 belonging to the UK Royal Air Force which as I said was retired from RAF service 5 years ago in 2019 so not sure which company you are talking about
@carlr9148
He was talking about the drone manufacturer, he misunderstood your comment 🍻
Guessing this is a very old video, since the RAF doesn't use the Tornado anymore and hasn't for quite a while.
At 4:11 measurements for a missile are incorrect, it's length must be 180 centimetres, not 180 millimetres.
This sort of thing might just make war as unthinkable as nuclear weapons did. They can come in swarms, are cheap (so anyone can have them) and therefore devastating, making conventional war unwinnable.
Australia is testing its anti-drone laser. It’s highly mobile, good for 50 shots before recharge and can take down small and medium drones with pinpoint automatic accuracy . What defence do these drones have against that technology?
Paint it silver?
Range. Mobile anti-drone lasers typically only have a range of a few hundred meters. These brimstone missiles have a range of at least 10km (depending on the version it can even be way more).
@@tobiasrietveld3819 Fractyl:2, it’s man portable (just) with a range of 2km with 1mm accuracy. If it’s connected to a power source then it operates continuously with virtually zero cost for each ‘shot’.
Surely that’s the end of smaller drones?
@@mikebikekite1 Fractyl:2. Burns through steel flying at 100km hour.
@@seanlander9321 Do you have any videos of that? All examples I've seen of laser weapons have been at relatively stationary targets (or targets following a steady course) close by and in excellent conditions. I'm guessing the power source isn't normally a home socket. Would a reflective surface reduce the effectiveness?
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Great. How fast can you build a million of them?
Great idea!
I am sure this wonderfull tech, will be put to good use in ukraine. Great British tech. The best of Britain.... direct to ukraine
Maybe Britain can still actually make something.
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lol fool
He won't see out his term
ha ha ha ha your goverment shitting you beg turkiye to let you in nato jerry jimmy
been hurling drones at him for 3 years..
he hasnt stopped
hes not impressed..
On the other hand the boys in red sea no hype no talk no bragging and then suprise
Wow, that is a heavy lift drone. Carrying 3 brimstone missiles!
Well according to the creator of this video, the missile is only about 7 inches long 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought the Idea of portable Drones was to lower the cost of war?. A single anti armor MBDA brimstone missile costs between 200-300k to fire.
thant you! exactly, this thing misses the whole point of drones.
@@noncanot Yeah, while a Ukrainian FPV drone with an antitank mine strapped on it only costs 10-15k to "Fire".
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Looks like they are going in the right direction
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clever flexible architecture. the brits are good at this type of trade offs based design. Less of the US wham bam thank ya mam style of architecture.
How is the length and diameter same?
The length should probably have been cm, not mm.
They are progressing in every way.
Great jobsby UK
There are at least two being developed here in the USA that are nothing short of ....."UNBELIEVABLE"!
Did somebody say Hypersonic Drones?😜
Those tiny jet motors - wow!
it the price of these things 400 dollar drones are blasting million dollar tanks the military should be partning with ukranine companies thats where todays best expertise is
Hahah I do love the British MOD when they like a new piece of military equipment the first thing they put on it is a brimstone 😂 🇬🇧
Brilliant invention ❤
Is it able to deploy the retroencabulator? Also, I have concerns about side fumbling.
Hats off to UK.
This is a break through in return on investment. For instance Cost to train an Apache pilot = $3 Million USD, cost of Apache = $35-50 million USD, Cost to fly an Apache for one hour=$3,500 USD.....................cost of Hydr Drone $1 million (guess)..............so for one Apache, I can get approximately 50-60 drones, no pilot training, no pilot salary or retention bonus, no sick days, no $3,500 per hour flight maintenance cost...............NO RISK to humans means more aggressive engagement, short war or battle.
I don't know, but from a USMC veteran, sounds like a dam good option
An excellent sales pitch video, it probably draws in a lot of potential buyers
British ingenuity is beyond imagination
Ref drone:
Putin watching this video: right comrades, I WANT ONE OF THESE, BUT MAKE SURE IT CAN CARRY 3 TONNE.
..oh, I want it before 2024 Easter!
Till one is captured and turned on you even more advanced than the one you started with 😢
Brilliant!
Nothing beats a FPV drone plus grenade attached. Next improvement in my view is to harden the drone against electronic warfare.
Nothing beats it *now*. It really won't be long for anti-drone technology to catch up in efficiency.
In the video (at the 4:12 timestamp), it states the dimensions of the Brimstone missel as:
Length - 180mm
Weight - 110LB / 50KG
Diameter - 180mm
I’m no expert, but that missel doesn’t look to be only 180 MM long (maybe 180 CMS)
What is the flight time & range of the drone. How does weight affect both.
An improvement for greater lift would be to use toroidal propellers instead. Perhaps the jets could be used for emergency lift in case of incoming close missile attack.
With all do respect. These new drones look interesting. However, I don't see how these devises could be made cheap. I mean like under 1000 bucks cheap. The heavier they are, the more stuff you put on them, the more valuable they will be and harder to get with traditional, typical supply line politics. I have seen YtubE video's on this so I don't think it is a secret. The Ukrainian general that is in charge of drones has a standing order that each unit have 20 drones ready to go at a moments notice. They get them from wherever they can. They know how to take them apart. Modify them for their purposes. They can retrofit and use captured ones. They can use ones that come in the mail. How is a skunkworks, halfway around the world, going to deliver virtually unlimited numbers of them for a few hundred bucks each? I don't buy it.
I mean that looks promising, but one crucial info missing from this video is the autonomy in runtime, cause most commercial drones can only operate for 15 minutes, so I would imagine it's longer for military uses, but I wonder if it can really be useful if it cannot fly for at least an hour
looks quite an easy target for soldiers to simply shoot out of the sky
I think the length quoted isn't 180mm but 180cm
6 jet engines. it must be perfect for concealed action behind enemy lines🤣
A game changer just like challenger tanks
4:09 typo: missile has a length of 180 mm??That’s its diameter.
A $1000 fpv drone with a rpg head zip tied to it will also kill tanks at waaay cheaper cost
Did you happen to notice it's almost the size of a CAR?
well, those drones aren't really that successful. You will note that they are generally only successful when the tanks hatches are open and the tank is not moving....usually abandoned tanks.
Challenger 2 tanks hit after by 10 inch fpv drones strapped with rpg warheads. It makes you wander why our transport authorities are pressing remoteid on flying toys for fun. @@cplcabs
can be brought down easily though, unless fielded by the hundreds at once they are easily grounded
I was hoping he’d say it…Hail Hydra!
Yeah, like the challenger !!
Looks like it will be easy to shoot down. I bet that, seeing that it is for the British forces, that it will be ridiculously expensive to purchase and run and probably underperform in every aspect of operation compared to the hype.
Will it bring me a case of beer, in bottles?
Hellfire for supersonic launch
They are just toying things together making a media thing. It would not be a good idea to mix electric and turbines, more effective to go all in for one of the alternatives.
Drones need to be cheap and many as they often fail because of electric jamming defenses, this thing is very expensive.
They could have made a similar drone more cheaply with the ability to carry the missiles.
The missiles seem quite good though.
@4:11 the missile has a length of 180mm
@4:18 the missile has a diameter of 180mm
leave it up to the brits to come up with a really funky looking missile.
in the US we would call it a volley ball.
BRIMSTONE Rocket? I thought we were talking about DRONES.... just saying. But thank you for the most excellent video.
What am I misunderstanding here 2:29; I would think that when the electromagnetic spectrum is hotly contested, it would be the remote piloting that would fail, and automation would take over...?
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