I do have the DJI mini pro 3 And I kid you not the things they can do are no joke. A drone that can capture wide area with 4k images and videos and has a fly range of 10km between the drone and the controller for a very cheap price. Not to mention they don't need internet connection like a starlink or whatsoever, they still record on real time from drone to the controller
Yeah, My one complaint about this video (other than calling it "A drone designed to film weddings" over and over again). I guess what they ment was, that via starlink the drones image can be live-streamed to people that aren't the Operator (like Artillery or Command-Posts).
@@A_Haunted_Pancake The operator can probably stream it anyway. The company just doesnt want to be associated with maiming russians for whatever marketing reason. They may want to sell them some drones in the future when Putin is gone.
@@saiv46 I know those numbers from setting up my WI-Fi routers. So it's the new, hi range bluetooth, isnt it? Wi-Fi frequency but a different protocol. IMO it's just for the video. I've found a site. They mention 433 MHz, which is UHF radio. No wonder they can be jammed. It has to be easy to jam a rocket too. Except they use to have an internal navigation backup. Some of those drones should be able to go back and land when they stop getting their (encrypted?) signal.
@@_mc_hon_3219 no…. That will calibrate itself when you place the drone on flat ground The little dance is to calibrate the electromagnetic compass so that it actually knows which way is north
As a long time DJI fan it says alot about a company that withdraws its product from use in war. And although I had never owned a Mavic, DJI still offers the best quality and priced home assembled brushless motor/airframe kits / camera gimbals, that are more economically friendly to a tinkerer like myself.
DJI works directly with the Chinese military suppling them with surveillance tech and drones. One of the main contributing factor to why they are able to produce cheaply for good quality is because Chinese communist government subsidized their production line. And that is one great advantage to have if you want to dominate the market.
First drone war actually was between Armenia and Azerbaijan, right? Pretty sure the drone on Azerbaijans sife tipped the balance on their favour, as they could destroy entire units without the Armeniens having an effective counter to it. Also this statement is very dependant on what the definition of a drone is, as there were multiple vehicles controlled from a distance even in WWII, that would pack a punch. For example the tiny Goliath tank.
Drones are used in Ukraine since 2014-2015, and were very popular in Syria. The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan was in general very ugly, because both sides are Russia-dependent states, though Azeri also supported by Turkey and Israel. You can say it was a Russia-controlled proxy war. Neither side is "good" and only arms sellers really profited.
America has been using drones for over 20 years. Predator since 1994 and Reaper since 2001. Kurds, Syrians, Iraq, and ISIS was using them to take each other out well before Armenia and Azerbaijan. There's plenty of footages in Iraq with commercial drones dropping grenades on troops. You can see the troops shooting at it with AK's and machine guns.
I mean - drones were around for a fairly long time even before Syria or Armenia vs Azerbaijan Nr. I don’t even know anymore. Determining a beginning is therefore really a question for military historians at this point. After all - drone warfare = drone war or just a new system? The USA etc. have been using them for a while.
Its just too good of a product, and there are so many uses for it, and in a war scenario, like recognizance or "stealth" warfare and low price, ita unmatched.
It's a bit more complicated. DJI manufactures in China, Starlink is an ITAR restricted product, all the cameras and parts being used risk being added to embargos or getting banned by their associations with a war. So the companies behind them will take steps to limit that association, going so far as to block their products from certain markets (altho this has no real impact on their use).
The Russo-Ukrainian war had shown something. That is, in the modern battlefield. Even a powerless civilian can now do something for their country. This is something considering that the war in the pacific is looking ever closer.
_"Even a powerless civilian can now do something..."_ This goes beyond even Drones, thanks to Ukraine. They developed a cellphone app that lets people submit sightings of aircraft, drones, or missiles! Basically, Ukraine has effectively created a _"Distributed Network Crowd-sourced Early Warning Radar"!_ Which from my understanding, it has helped immensely. I don't know the specifics, but apparently you take a picture and input the direction it was traveling, and submit it. I find this to be seriously awesome! 🤘
Welcome to the age of information warfare. The speed of transferring information, of assessment of threats, of organized responses and tactical intervention has never been higher. We essentially have a decentralized network of civilians that serve as an early warning net for any threat, and as a serious counter-threat, if only based on intel. Back in the day you'd see an invasion and it'd take a couple hours to respond. These days you see an invasion and there'll be drones flying overhead and approaching targets within the hour, if not minutes. Total war used to mean all civilians actively help towards the war effort, by working in factories, going to the front, etc. Now with twitter, whatsapp, instagram, snapchat, telegram and signal serving as our primary line of communication, not every man needs to be on the frontlines, nor every woman in the factories. Now it's a matter of @Reaper_Drone, @Grunts_With_Drones. Of throwing 45 cruise missiles out of the back of a C130 400 miles out, and telling them to have at it. We're not automating warfare, we're automating everything except for warfare. Communication, logistics, data-harvesting & processing... Now, _it's just point the camera and press the button._ And if you find yourself disagreeing with this comment, wait 10 years. War is changing again.
@@tuckerbugeater Because Russia knew it was a piss-poor excuse for a military superpower, lacking the resources, training, and intelligence, meaning they were very likely to lose if they attacked? 😏
DJI drones broadcast the location of both the drone and the operator. So using them in a warzone is asking to be shot at (if the opponent knows how to capture the data).
@@BlackMamba-lt8oeJust buy the DJl tracker system, they sell a briefcase that can track, turn it on then you can see where drones take off from and their flight path. This system is mainly sold to airports their they can install the tracker radar/signal pickers it has both, or you can get it in a briefcase size shorter range but it’s mainly used for LEO. Difficult for normal citizen to get since you would need a company that is registration under certain categories, and license for that.
Ah yes, that’s why the DJI Phantom is in the official inventory of the German air force Even it it’s true on the stock model, stuff like that can be easily disabled by hardware and/or software mods
A DJI drone does not need an internet connection to operate, it flies on a proprietary technology called ocusync. so starlink is not needed to operate the drone
I think the problem might be that without internet connection the drone operators are not able to send the footage back to the command and other units in the area.
No one said anything about internet. Why do such Aholes bring up useless arguments that have nothing todo with what’s being said. Shows ignorance. FYI. Anything that transmits can be tracked and located. Duhhh. I’m electronics type Vet. Since WWII militaries could track any transmitter.
This technology is a genie that won't go back into the bottle. As drone roles expand beyond recon, anti-drone measures and tactics will be developed, and drones themselves will evolve into specialized forms like recon, bomber, and fighter, just as planes did- with any type adaptable to kamikaze. Their low cost and ease of use guarantee they will proliferate into roles limited only by human imagination.
Laser weaponry will become a staple then. Having a beam quickly zap a drone blind or even outright melting it's core for the cost of warming a cup of coffee could pay off long term once they become detectable with new technology.
@@no3ironman11100 Have you ever heard of the word 'attenuation'? Look it up in context of lasers and you'll understand that unless we power laser batteries with nuclear power plant quantities of energy to deal with saturation strikes, which greatly increases the load on electrical infrastructure, the best way to deal with drone saturation strikes would be ye good ol fashioned proximity fuze-based AA guns en-masse, sorta like back in WW2, u but with more precision and better gun control systems
Last time humans were on moon 50 years ago. Now government is using the same technology from 50 years ago to get back. And still are behind schedule 10 years and over budget of couple billions. We as a humans, are SOOOOOO behind everything. But soooo much. Not because we cant, but because of cause of leaders pockets.
The CEO of the company "agreed" to the ban of course because he is a peaceful man and wants to live another day. And no one knows why-but apparently the Belarusians and Stan coutries seem to buy them on Aliexpress like hell. So there must be a lot of weddings there nowadays.
There is no such thing CEO controls his/her company in communist China. The CCP controls everything and did ask the company to hand over all user data from Ukraine so they can provide to the Russians.
@@ronblack7870 China and Russia seem to be allies. If a Chinese based firm then restricts the markets they serve for both Ukraine and Russia, you can be sure of 2 things. 1) This was a Chinese governmental decision, not the specific company that implemented a policy. and 2) It will hurt (or is intended to) hurt Ukraine allot more then Russia.
Its utterly amazing how much you can learn when you arent forced to learn it. No wonder Finland is one of the top nations in education with 3 hours of school a day, they arent forced or dreading school.
My gawd these false anecdotes are everywhere in the Internet. All thanks to the media turning nordic nations into utopias, people make up whatever nonsense they think of and assume a nordic nation does it.
I understand that some corporations don’t want their product to be used at military action. But Ukraine has no other choice, we do use it to protect life of our solders. Otherwise, it is 2nd world war, tranches style war.. Also want to thank all countries who did helped to Ukrainian people. We appreciate your support.
I dont think Dji really has the right to dictate what people do with their drones the only way they could actually stop it would be to quit making them completely let's be honest money talks because if I didn't want my drones to be used for war violence would never make them in the first place knowing human nature basically they try to come off righteous but fail in their commitment to be righteous let's all be honest this is about Chinese intrest and Russia must've whispered sweet "nothings" in their ear and the only reason Ukraine probably had access to them to begin with is they thought they could use them for subterfuge and I'd really have to question why they was givin access to star link 🧐 Elon Musk a humanitarian 😂
@@terranovarain6570 I think the statement that SpaceX was limiting starlink usage was blown out of proportions. They are still allowed to use it for everything they did, except for navigation of drones. And yes, Elon is a humanitarian. Thats why spacex, neuralink and Tesla exist.
@@pleasy13 sure, obviously wealth plays a part in it, but why would he bet all his wealth on the two hardest industries to start in. Aerospace and Automotive. In his words, he gave them 10% odds of success. Again while wealth definitely plays a role, it definitely isn’t his nr 1 priority. He used to sleep in his factories, and now he sleeps in a $40k boxable home on starbase production facility. I think the reason he’s started and run SpaceX and Tesla, as well as the rest is because he really cares, and because it was his childhood dream.
@@sebastianorye2702 He didn't sleep on the factory floor because it was noble of him to do, he did it to set an example to his workers. He has said so himself. So it was not only because he is obsessed with his image, but also because he expects his employees to work themselves to death for **his** projects. He said that he could've slept on a couch in a more private area, but chose not to, so that his workers could see him. His "humanitarianism" crumbles as soon as any money gets involved. He keeps making business with China and praising them on Twitter, despite them essentially being a genocidal authoritarian dictatorship. He has even said that he thinks governments should mostly just exist to break up monopolies. There is nothing overblown about the Starlink situation. Drones play a huge part in the war in Ukraine, and Elon is denying Ukraine a huge advantage in that area. I agree that he has done great work with Tesla and SpaceX, but he is still a selfish asshole with way too much power.
The impact of starlink as described in this video is greatly overblown. Starlink has been at best, a miniscule contributor. There are likely some national guard units using them, but the main Ukrainian army has secure and dedicated systems. That's why when starlink services started to get limited 6+ months ago, there was little impact to Ukraine's military operations.
Starlink also has ZERO direct communication ability with the drone itself while it is in the air flying. This video makes no sense when they say can "live stream the drone feed", but while at the same time "but the military communications remained intact". It literally contradicts itself and is completely false.
bad time. All your parts now count as "possible war-stuff", so prices gets up, batteries price goes up, everything fked up due to FPV, you just can't fly to your joy. Same thing for Russia, but they banned ANY drone launch, the penalties is also sky-high to pay... Very bad time.
It's not really the first case of drone warfare. The US used them heavily, it was just completely one-sided in Iraq and Afghanistan. And then the Armenian war saw the first use by both sides.
Ought see what our cops use, if you asleep and wake up burning send your DJI mini 2 and see theirs aiming thermal at you while u sleep, thermal at 8 ft burns
Its crazy that Marie Curie was exploring radiation for a daily use and then suddenly she became the worlds biggest threat to all humanity. She would burn her self alive in public for finding out what her research has been used for.
@@TheObserver3 Most of Russian Lend/Lease vehicles during WWII were Ford trucks, for decades AFTER WWII Russia continued to produce obsolete trucks based on WWII Fords! Like the Chinese Communists the Russians are only GOOD at copying!
The other day I had a helicopter and drone circling within a two block radius of my house at night looking for a missing woman. It's crazy how commonplace they are now.
In europe those models with already tampered software to allow them to go higher than forced max altitude. And no broadcast their info around would be somehow illegal today. But yes i personally would prefer those exacly because no restrictions.
@@Kesssuli To be fair, DJI disables geo fencing atleast for firefighters and other emergency personnel. I would imagine that they can hide police drones too
@@xWood4000 Of course military and goverment usage should be free of software restrictions. But as citizen in todays europe there are limitations least where i live how high can drone climb and you need to have kind of lisence to operate one. + drone should contain all information of its owner if shit happens. Dont know for sure is that droadcast of information meant for new bough drones or ones in bigger class. Least for now those can be bough whitout any information shared but if want to use it least in public i think there is fine if things arent in check. So if you dont care about sharing your information then why i would not want unrestricted version so it could least fly higher and wont broadcast your personal info and location. I think most of commercial drones can be altered with third party softwares but would not recommed to use that to video your weddings in city areas.
Cool thing about the DJI is you can swap out the radio controller for different frequencies to prevent 2.4 and 5.8GHz jammers. A 2.6GHz radio controller completely circumvents a $20k 2400-2485MHz jammer. Starlink however is very easy to jam since it purely operates between 70-90GHz.
Those drones were developed next door to my last work place. We had a 2,100 square foot warehouse and the military rented the 4,200 space next door. They put up sound acoustic foams to dampen the noise of the drones test fly and cover up the windows to prevent being able to see through the windows I think for secrecy. Damn were they noisy at hell. It's like hearing a legion of hornets or bees just bzzzzzzzzzinnnnnggg around.
When did DJI ever provide drones themselves? People have been getting them from volunteers and donors since day one. Pretty informative video and the e-warfare aspect of this war is amazing so Im glad for videos like these but I'm m not sure that constitutes as being banned.
Not that big as you may think. I believe Russia actually has better organized industrial production despite sanctions. Iranian drones are regularly sent by Russia to attack Ukraine, Ukrainian drones with similar capabilities were late and less numerous. Russian mass-produced drones are causing serious damage but their successes are not published by pro-Ukrainian side in English for obvious reasons. Also, Russians have big superiority in electronic warfare. I'm pro-Ukrainian, but I'm really worried when people think Ukraine has a higher hand here. No, the situation is actually quite desperate. That Russia is losing way more troops is of course true, but it is not (that big) a problem for Russia, because they are more careful about selecting and sending ppl they don't care about. Russia is not losing high value civilians(except to emigration) :(
@@noop9k What? Where are you digged this? (give the sources to proving your information)! A logical question, why Putler's like a puppet begging on Iran and Chines “military support” when “Russia actually have better organized industrial production than Ukraine” ? On youtube, you may watch many videos about russian drones, they are made from junk, digital cameras and plastics bottles inside!
The knife was first designed to cut food, not people. The firearm was first designed to burst into the sky, not people. The drone was first designed to shoot the happiness, not people.
You should note a later released maintinance report of the moskva revealed that those anti air defences didnt work in the first place, and that the radar was off due to an old engine being unable to power it
It's a bit silly to call the Mavic "A drone designed to film weddings". It's a rather sturdy aircraft that can go many miles in sub-zero temperatures, adverse weather conditions and near total darkness.
A plastic pop bottle is a perfectly valid fuel tank, especially when weight is an important variable. You simply cannot make a bottle cheaper and more reliable then pop bottles. Yes it will be pierced easily, but just rough handling wont break it, these bottles are made to resist international shipping.
MY OG mavic still flies great after 5 yrs! DJI and all consumer drones use 2.4ghz for transmission, which really should be easy to jam for a competent military.
I don't want to brag, but when I saw the first commercial avaible drone I said to family and friends, that they will change war forever. Regarding the depletion of the world's oil reserves, the endgame for gas guzzling vehicles, like planes, middle sized ships and tanks has come. The war of the future is lightweight, smart and electrical. My 5 cents, that the Chinese-US-war will be the last fought with those stoneagelike machines.
what people rarely understand is that mavics and FPV suicide drones are used side by side. Nowadays in the war, the mavics aren't used so often to carry bombs, they are replaced by FPV suicide drones. What the Mavics are used for here is recon. Ask yourself how did the FPV drone find the targets they want to kill in the first place? THey use mavics camera, thermal, and zoom capabilities to find the targets, use the range finder to hand out the coordinates to FPV pilots to attack. FPV pilots are not effective for wide area recon and that's why Mavics are used.
I remember when all we used drones for was observation. When I said something about adding some hellfire missles, my NCO suggested I write the Jiont Chiefs a letter suggesting adding those hellfire missles, but we just laughed because we knew that was the obvious future.
Tiny and cheap FPV kamikaze drones now dominate the battlefield. We assemble them ourselves here from parts, and we need tens of thousands of them every month. Mavic is too expensive and is used for reconnaissance from a long distance.
now bayraktars doesn't come closer than 20 km to front line, if they come they just die, they were effective first weeks then russian army just adopted
The funny thing about this is that there are even cheaper drones out there. Sure they suck, but they work "good enough" for certain tasks like finding out how the enemy forces are deployed.
The US military needs to move away from the multimillion $$$ UAVs that form the backbone of the UAV force. I was a test engineer for the MQ-4C Triton and I’d rather see a thousand small drones for the price of one Triton. They need to be small yet large enough to carry a 5-10kg payload and cheap enough that if one goes donee due to gun fire or EW the soldier can grab another and immediately carry on their mission. Yes cheap enough that if it goes down grab another as compared to Triton or other large ones where if it goes down you’ve lost control and monitoring of the battle space. A large UAV is not easily replaced where the lead time for replacement is months or years. Also the COMMS link needs rethinking. With limited bandwidth available and the threat of EW needs to be rethought. If in an attack mode give it a target and let AI take over if the command link is lost. If GPS is jammed or spoofed have inertial guidance take over and continuously update the position when GPS is available and reliable. The AFU really needs to have an accurate INS to take over on its long distance drones, the ones with a range of over 500km. GPS spoofed? Let INS take over until clear of the spoofed area. Slava Ukraini! Oh and I can’t wait for Ukrainian university students attend the SUAS annual competition! Hope they bring lots of patches and a big appetite. Our community will welcome them with open arms.
I'd be interested in hearing your opinion as an engineer/operator on the even more expensive stealth drones. Do you think stuff like to SR 72 SoaBb is just as much a waste? Or is it just Triton with it being essentially the worst of both worlds (expensive but too slow/unstealthy)
I agree with you but at the same time you need big drones for surveillance, for an important reconnaissance mission you are going to need a Global hawk not a cheap and extremely small drone, i think we need both small and big drones for all type of jobs
What i find the most interesting and hilarious thing is that....... The military which is funded billions right and dji manages to out do them....... Now I'm not saying that someone should be fired.
Although the M30 is an even more attractive device for warzone operations, as it not only has 16x optical zoom and 200x hybrid zoom but also a thermal camera, can carry higher payload, switch batteries much faster, fly in light rain thanks to IP54 and also handle harsher winds. It also features a pointable range finder, which can be useful for scouting.
Mavic cost 600 dollars How much can you afford? 20 thousand for something that might not come back or 600. War CA be won on a battlefield or by who has anything that can cost you and bankrupt you. There is after the war is over what are you going to do Question
@@markgranger9150 Thermal Camera and rain resistance is huge. 20k is rly rly Cheap considering good scouting and info collecting can save lots of lives.
How much is your life worth? 20k or 600. Jk. In reality it will be whether you can carry it or not. Smaller one will be better for infantry and higher risk shorter range situations, bigger for other longer range.
What you need to do is take something like the Black Hornet and make the propeller as loud as possible, maybe even an LED flash on it. Fly those around the trench lines all night long and no Russian would get any sleep after that.
The reason that the two Ukrainian missiles were able to penetrate the Moskva's air defense was because THEY WERE OUT OF ORDER as well as a lot of other stuff on the ship. There was a leaked russian report about this. They had seriously neglected that ship and considering it was the crown jewel of Russian navy, I shudder to think about the condition of their other ships.
Both sides in this war have committed more war crimes with DJI equipment than any other equipment. I have seen thousands of unarmed injured soldiers, even medics carrying litters with injured soldiers, mercilessly get hit with grenade after grenade over and over and over, returning to base to reload then returning every two grenades. They knew the enemy were now bad targets as they were out of the fight, injured, and unarmed, and yet they just kept going. Ukraine is probably the worst for this because they publish it. Russians at least only post their war crimes to Telegram channels.
US military: so you mean now we don't do Blitzkrieg like strategies? No series of weapons dropping as if birds are pooping? WTF? Now you guys are talking about how cost optimization implications of war, and not the multi-trillion dollar budget with military industrial complex, that's stupid!
there's a video on the internet (im not gonna say the website) of a ukrainian drone dropping a grenade directly onto a russian and exploding as his comrade is stunned in awe of what just happened and the drone recorded the whole thing
Give it time. AAA was more or less being phased out until quite recently. Now they have a purpose again. Honestly, something like a Wirbelwind would be perfect for anti-drone use.
Wait until Boeing finishes their testing of the Wingman drone. That thing can take off from both ground and carrier bases, as well as carry out air to ground attacks or air to air attacks. It carries the same payload as an F35 but is 40% smaller since it doesn't have to accommodate a pilot. The drones can autonomously carry out missions or be controlled via operator as well. And they're relatively cheap too, also come with a stealth option. Pretty much every military drone contractor is looking at Ukraine right now for field tests.
I heard that they are easy countered by EMP weapons. Developed nations have these capabilities so pilots will always be supreme. Its like with tanks getting countered by anti-tank missile worth 20k.
@@EddyKorgo You realise that the US military complex just generates money for the economy? The money they spend on those drones dont just dissapear, they go into manufacturing, which goes into tens of other industries.
The problem with military developers is they charge a significant premium for their "military grade" drones. Whilst commercial drones optimized for price are just as effective or better. For the moment: Cheap drones> Expensive drones in most use cases. The military drones need to drastically get cheaper.
Meanwhile Russians can just drive across the border to China and buy as many as they want, and if that's too slow they've also flown military transports directly to Shenzhen to pick up in bulk.
There's a Minor inaccurate statement there at 1:48. Where you were saying TB-2 is E-Z target for missiles!, So i'm providing a detailed answer as to why "IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK!" (Just kidding there, i couldnt help but throw that in, but before i go further, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR AWESOME VIDEOS! KEEP IT UP! I've been a subscriber ever since i stumbled onto this channel back in the first days of the Ukraine war! So anyways, I wanted to explain, when it comes to the TB-2, its EXTREMELY HARD TO LOCK ONTO WITH MODERN MOBILE SAM SYSTEMS! AND, it flies too high to be seen or locked onto with shoulder fired SAM's! That's because almost the entirety of it's fuselage, is constructed of CARBON FIBER materials! So, that "lack of metal" in it's construction, has a TINY ALMOST TINY BIRD SIZED, RADAR SIGNATURE! BUT, after the Moskva was sunk, the Russians DID figure out the range or "data block" of frequencies that the TB-2 operates on! So, even though a TB-2 can rapidly switch frequencies to maintain encryption and a clear signal back to it's base of operations that because of that rapid switching of the signal, it's almost impossible to hijack.. but it IS POSSIBLE to figure out the "frequency range" that it's switching from and to, and then "Blanket an area" with jamming signals and thus, blocking those signals! So the Russians started Jamming that section of those "radio frequencies" & "GPS SIGNALS" in order to "BLANKET JAM" the TB-2's operating signals, (and the Bayraktar company constantly updates the software on the drone in order to change that range every few weeks, so the Russians have to figure it out all over again, but due to the value of the TB-2 Ukraine no longer just puts them up against "front-line" targets! And as for the Russians and their Jamming, they only do this near all of their expensive equipment, so you see that group of "radio frequencies", and "GPS Signals" being jammed by Russian Mobile Jamming stations, that are strategically placed to be nearby their higher-end air defense systems such as the Pantsir, and TOR-M2, and to a lesser extent, they also Jam near groups of the higher-end artillery systems but only the ones firing in groups or large batterry firing artillery, and you will, ESPECIALLY see those frequencies and GPS Signals being jammed near ALL of their war ships nowadays! (but the reason for that is obvious!) So from what I've read lately, the TB-2 is mostly used nowadays for long range reconnaissance! Because it has excellent optics! As well as it can zoom in on something from a few miles away and get a very clear picture and coordinates that it can send to artillery units such as HIMARS and others like it! (again: this is from what i've read, so this may not be the entirety of it's day to day missions, as it IS a war with constant changing tactics, & counter-tactics! So the TB-2 is still used and very much still an integral part of the Ukrainian defenses, as well as being used in Ukraine's current "summer counter-offensive!" However, it's just no longer doing as many "risky missions" these days, but it's still flying high and helping out! (sorry for the long comment, but as you can see, i REALLY am cheering on Ukraine and it's fight for it's own freedom as a country!)
It's completely contradictive for Elon musk to complain about them using his starlink for drones. Considering he has another venture with Starlin called star shield for those exact purposes. What in the hell did he think it's going to be used for, in regions that have been completely destroyed with absolutely no population but the troops themselves!? What a piece of work especially drone manufacturers, like now you're going to tell me what I can and can't do with my own property that I purchase! ? News flash once I buy it, it no longer belongs to your company and I can do with it whatever I want. Talk about not supporting the Free world, because takeing away capabilities like that directly supports Russia. It will alway's be in Russia's favor to take away any capabilities from Ukraine.
The ship got destroyed because only 1 out of 3 anti air systems worked(Russian standards) and the radar was off because it interfered with the communication sistems. You can find all of this in a log book 1 month before it was destroyed.
This is from a so called report about the state of the Moskva which is allegedly "leaked" from Russia. You can figure it out it is completely fabricated for propaganda based on how the claims conflict with the performance of the ship bombing Odessa. Plus the claims mentioned above, it also says its missile strike capabilities are limited, which appears to be wrong based on the damage it caused at Odessa. Don't believe everything you read, since both sides apply heavy doses of propaganda.
So the question is where can we have mavics shipped for the Ukrainians to pick them up. More, drone hobbyists in the United States... can you start cranking them out. Name an hourly rate, and then start making quads, and long-range winged capable of carrying between 0.5 and 2.2 kilograms (1 to 4 drop grenades). Perhaps talk to styropyro about a laser designator & dronemesh about the drones. I wish I could help but those aren't my hobbies. I can help fund though. I'm not rich but crowdfunding could help.
It is interesting that all these drones that you see on the battlefield were bought exclusively with the money of citizens, because such things cannot be bought from the state budget because of the bureaucracy
The US should set up some factories to produce clones of the DJI drone either directly or by financing reliable companies to do so. Tax incentives and a guaranteed military contract should do the trick. The company would also be able to get into a commercial market with the clone. Might not be able to compete on the commercial though due to the high cost of doing business in the US.
I remember, years ago, police in the US used a toy store drone with a camera to search a building to find a criminal suspect.
There's 69 written on that drone
Was a skydio drone I think.
Probably used a Xbox controller too, and zoomed through the building with their GTA Online experience
@@davidemartorana4708 4:06 hehe
Enemy team should've chosen Mute.
I do have the DJI mini pro 3
And I kid you not the things they can do are no joke.
A drone that can capture wide area with 4k images and videos and has a fly range of 10km between the drone and the controller for a very cheap price.
Not to mention they don't need internet connection like a starlink or whatsoever, they still record on real time from drone to the controller
Yeah, My one complaint about this video
(other than calling it "A drone designed to film weddings" over and over again).
I guess what they ment was, that via starlink the drones image can be live-streamed
to people that aren't the Operator (like Artillery or Command-Posts).
@@A_Haunted_Pancake The operator can probably stream it anyway.
The company just doesnt want to be associated with maiming russians for whatever marketing reason. They may want to sell them some drones in the future when Putin is gone.
What do they use for the connection? I thought about bluetooth, but seems too far to be effective
@@prometheus1815 Wi-Fi
@@saiv46 I know those numbers from setting up my WI-Fi routers. So it's the new, hi range bluetooth, isnt it? Wi-Fi frequency but a different protocol. IMO it's just for the video. I've found a site. They mention 433 MHz, which is UHF radio. No wonder they can be jammed. It has to be easy to jam a rocket too. Except they use to have an internal navigation backup. Some of those drones should be able to go back and land when they stop getting their (encrypted?) signal.
for anyone wondering, @ 6:13 they were calibrating the drone's compass
no, they were dancing to motivate it 🔥🔥🔥
Compass, not GPS.
Edit add: HolyOllie fixed the op.
@@dougaltolan3017 yep my bad.. edited the message
*Do you mean Gyroscope?
@@_mc_hon_3219
no….
That will calibrate itself when you place the drone on flat ground
The little dance is to calibrate the electromagnetic compass so that it actually knows which way is north
As a long time DJI fan it says alot about a company that withdraws its product from use in war. And although I had never owned a Mavic, DJI still offers the best quality and priced home assembled brushless motor/airframe kits / camera gimbals, that are more economically friendly to a tinkerer like myself.
DJI works directly with the Chinese military suppling them with surveillance tech and drones.
One of the main contributing factor to why they are able to produce cheaply for good quality is because Chinese communist government subsidized their production line. And that is one great advantage to have if you want to dominate the market.
Perhaps the best drone is the one we made along the way
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lmao
The drone was inside us all along!
I can feel the Drone coming inside me- *_wait i didnt mean it lite_*
We are ALL drones on this blessed day
5:16 just for clarification, the kalibr cost around 1 million for the Russian MoD, the 6.5 million tag is for export.
First drone war actually was between Armenia and Azerbaijan, right?
Pretty sure the drone on Azerbaijans sife tipped the balance on their favour, as they could destroy entire units without the Armeniens having an effective counter to it.
Also this statement is very dependant on what the definition of a drone is, as there were multiple vehicles controlled from a distance even in WWII, that would pack a punch. For example the tiny Goliath tank.
in syria drone were 1st widely used ,,
Drones are used in Ukraine since 2014-2015, and were very popular in Syria.
The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan was in general very ugly, because both sides are Russia-dependent states, though Azeri also supported by Turkey and Israel. You can say it was a Russia-controlled proxy war. Neither side is "good" and only arms sellers really profited.
Drones were heavily used there, but mostly by one side. This war is the first case where drones are an essential component for both sides.
America has been using drones for over 20 years. Predator since 1994 and Reaper since 2001. Kurds, Syrians, Iraq, and ISIS was using them to take each other out well before Armenia and Azerbaijan. There's plenty of footages in Iraq with commercial drones dropping grenades on troops. You can see the troops shooting at it with AK's and machine guns.
I mean - drones were around for a fairly long time even before Syria or Armenia vs Azerbaijan Nr. I don’t even know anymore. Determining a beginning is therefore really a question for military historians at this point. After all - drone warfare = drone war or just a new system? The USA etc. have been using them for a while.
Its just too good of a product, and there are so many uses for it, and in a war scenario, like recognizance or "stealth" warfare and low price, ita unmatched.
The fact that it is cheaper than most military guns yet many more useful than them is already a big boon
Reconnaissance my man
@@rumham7631 Renaissance my friend...
It's a bit more complicated. DJI manufactures in China, Starlink is an ITAR restricted product, all the cameras and parts being used risk being added to embargos or getting banned by their associations with a war. So the companies behind them will take steps to limit that association, going so far as to block their products from certain markets (altho this has no real impact on their use).
uranium. will save global consumption problem.
everyone else. put your googles on or you will go blind
The Russo-Ukrainian war had shown something. That is, in the modern battlefield. Even a powerless civilian can now do something for their country. This is something considering that the war in the pacific is looking ever closer.
_"Even a powerless civilian can now do something..."_
This goes beyond even Drones, thanks to Ukraine. They developed a cellphone app that lets people submit sightings of aircraft, drones, or missiles!
Basically, Ukraine has effectively created a _"Distributed Network Crowd-sourced Early Warning Radar"!_
Which from my understanding, it has helped immensely.
I don't know the specifics, but apparently you take a picture and input the direction it was traveling, and submit it.
I find this to be seriously awesome! 🤘
Welcome to the age of information warfare.
The speed of transferring information, of assessment of threats, of organized responses and tactical intervention has never been higher.
We essentially have a decentralized network of civilians that serve as an early warning net for any threat, and as a serious counter-threat, if only based on intel.
Back in the day you'd see an invasion and it'd take a couple hours to respond.
These days you see an invasion and there'll be drones flying overhead and approaching targets within the hour, if not minutes.
Total war used to mean all civilians actively help towards the war effort, by working in factories, going to the front, etc.
Now with twitter, whatsapp, instagram, snapchat, telegram and signal serving as our primary line of communication, not every man needs to be on the frontlines, nor every woman in the factories.
Now it's a matter of @Reaper_Drone, @Grunts_With_Drones.
Of throwing 45 cruise missiles out of the back of a C130 400 miles out, and telling them to have at it.
We're not automating warfare, we're automating everything except for warfare.
Communication, logistics, data-harvesting & processing... Now, _it's just point the camera and press the button._
And if you find yourself disagreeing with this comment, wait 10 years. War is changing again.
@@tuckerbugeater Because Russia knew it was a piss-poor excuse for a military superpower, lacking the resources, training, and intelligence, meaning they were very likely to lose if they attacked? 😏
@@tuckerbugeater wtf? Because of an app that came AFTER the war started? XD
Are you a time bender or what?
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE I'm very intrigued by this, I'm curious if there was an app wouldn't russian's be able to use that app aswell to give false flags?
I like to imagine that at dgi would have thought
Huh these people are having a lot of weddings lately dispite of a war
The Mavic 3 Thermals in thumnail costs $7,000 each, and average lifespan is 3 flights.
DJI is basically printing money right now.
@@vlhc4642 the military industrial complex is printing money....
@@vlhc4642 where can i get more information on this lifespan?
@@thunderbolt997 Foreign Policy: "The Drone War in Ukraine Is Cheap, Deadly, and Made in China"
America sanctioned DJI for its drones being used in war, so idk how much money DJI is actually making
DJI drones broadcast the location of both the drone and the operator. So using them in a warzone is asking to be shot at (if the opponent knows how to capture the data).
How
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe nice try babushka
@@BlackMamba-lt8oeJust buy the DJl tracker system, they sell a briefcase that can track, turn it on then you can see where drones take off from and their flight path. This system is mainly sold to airports their they can install the tracker radar/signal pickers it has both, or you can get it in a briefcase size shorter range but it’s mainly used for LEO. Difficult for normal citizen to get since you would need a company that is registration under certain categories, and license for that.
Ah yes, that’s why the DJI Phantom is in the official inventory of the German air force
Even it it’s true on the stock model, stuff like that can be easily disabled by hardware and/or software mods
There is a special update made by ukrainian IT workers. After this update they don't broadcast information about the operator.
This is just godly advertising for DJI
A DJI drone does not need an internet connection to operate, it flies on a proprietary technology called ocusync. so starlink is not needed to operate the drone
I think the problem might be that without internet connection the drone operators are not able to send the footage back to the command and other units in the area.
@tibor29 yeah thats probably the case but that's not wat he says
Ocusync is a wireless image transmission technology, which can only connect the remote controller and the aircraft, but not the satellite.
No one said anything about internet. Why do such Aholes bring up useless arguments that have nothing todo with what’s being said. Shows ignorance. FYI. Anything that transmits can be tracked and located. Duhhh. I’m electronics type Vet. Since WWII militaries could track any transmitter.
you can stream from a phone with mavic
This technology is a genie that won't go back into the bottle. As drone roles expand beyond recon, anti-drone measures and tactics will be developed, and drones themselves will evolve into specialized forms like recon, bomber, and fighter, just as planes did- with any type adaptable to kamikaze. Their low cost and ease of use guarantee they will proliferate into roles limited only by human imagination.
And combine that with 3D printing and AI and you see we will have a problem
Laser weaponry will become a staple then. Having a beam quickly zap a drone blind or even outright melting it's core for the cost of warming a cup of coffee could pay off long term once they become detectable with new technology.
@@no3ironman11100 Have you ever heard of the word 'attenuation'? Look it up in context of lasers and you'll understand that unless we power laser batteries with nuclear power plant quantities of energy to deal with saturation strikes, which greatly increases the load on electrical infrastructure, the best way to deal with drone saturation strikes would be ye good ol fashioned proximity fuze-based AA guns en-masse, sorta like back in WW2, u but with more precision and better gun control systems
@@marcussoleil3733 Uh no lasers are superior
@@no3ironman11100lol no
A battleship used drones to spot for their guns 30+ years ago. Im surprised it's taken this long to catch on.
The last battleships (Iowa Class) were decommissioned 30 years ago after the Gulf War.
Last time humans were on moon 50 years ago. Now government is using the same technology from 50 years ago to get back. And still are behind schedule 10 years and over budget of couple billions. We as a humans, are SOOOOOO behind everything. But soooo much. Not because we cant, but because of cause of leaders pockets.
It all started in ww1 with use of air balloons , then bi planes
@@Foxtrottangoabc then unmanned Hellcats attacked the Los Angeles metro area
I donated my Mavic 1 with 1.3 firmware to Ukraine last year because I no longer used it. If it helps to stop "Redland", this was only a small price.
based
Nice
*the research and footage u have is impeccable! well done!*
He probably joined some deep telegram group for the footage
6:13 Haven't built a drone since the pandemic started, but you can still recognize the calibration dance anywhere XD
The CEO of the company "agreed" to the ban of course because he is a peaceful man and wants to live another day. And no one knows why-but apparently the Belarusians and Stan coutries seem to buy them on Aliexpress like hell. So there must be a lot of weddings there nowadays.
Yeah, in the time of wars, wedding surge is common thing /j
so russia gets access to those easily but not ukraine?
@@ronblack7870 we were talking about weddings in the Stan countries and Belarus. Why you come up with Russia all the time?
There is no such thing CEO controls his/her company in communist China. The CCP controls everything and did ask the company to hand over all user data from Ukraine so they can provide to the Russians.
@@ronblack7870 China and Russia seem to be allies. If a Chinese based firm then restricts the markets they serve for both Ukraine and Russia, you can be sure of 2 things.
1) This was a Chinese governmental decision, not the specific company that implemented a policy.
and
2) It will hurt (or is intended to) hurt Ukraine allot more then Russia.
3:24 "come, this is no place to die" drone carrying the other drone 😅
Its utterly amazing how much you can learn when you arent forced to learn it. No wonder Finland is one of the top nations in education with 3 hours of school a day, they arent forced or dreading school.
Wished it was like that everywhere
3 hours of school a day? You must be talking about some other Finland, thats not a thing here
My gawd these false anecdotes are everywhere in the Internet. All thanks to the media turning nordic nations into utopias, people make up whatever nonsense they think of and assume a nordic nation does it.
3 hours? Are you high? In the primary school typical day is maybe 4.5 hours, and high school is about 6.5 hours.
@@hullukana214 yeah bro is high I asked a friend and she says she has abt 6 hours a day
Great video. Many thanks.
I understand that some corporations don’t want their product to be used at military action. But Ukraine has no other choice, we do use it to protect life of our solders. Otherwise, it is 2nd world war, tranches style war..
Also want to thank all countries who did helped to Ukrainian people. We appreciate your support.
I dont think Dji really has the right to dictate what people do with their drones the only way they could actually stop it would be to quit making them completely
let's be honest money talks
because if I didn't want my drones to be used for war violence would never make them in the first place knowing human nature
basically they try to come off righteous but fail in their commitment to be righteous
let's all be honest this is about Chinese intrest and Russia must've whispered sweet "nothings" in their ear
and the only reason Ukraine probably had access to them to begin with is they thought they could use them for subterfuge
and I'd really have to question why they was givin access to star link 🧐
Elon Musk a humanitarian 😂
@@terranovarain6570 I think the statement that SpaceX was limiting starlink usage was blown out of proportions. They are still allowed to use it for everything they did, except for navigation of drones. And yes, Elon is a humanitarian. Thats why spacex, neuralink and Tesla exist.
@@sebastianorye2702 Elon's vast wealth is a simple side effect of his humanitarianism. [cough]
@@pleasy13 sure, obviously wealth plays a part in it, but why would he bet all his wealth on the two hardest industries to start in. Aerospace and Automotive. In his words, he gave them 10% odds of success. Again while wealth definitely plays a role, it definitely isn’t his nr 1 priority. He used to sleep in his factories, and now he sleeps in a $40k boxable home on starbase production facility.
I think the reason he’s started and run SpaceX and Tesla, as well as the rest is because he really cares, and because it was his childhood dream.
@@sebastianorye2702 He didn't sleep on the factory floor because it was noble of him to do, he did it to set an example to his workers. He has said so himself. So it was not only because he is obsessed with his image, but also because he expects his employees to work themselves to death for **his** projects. He said that he could've slept on a couch in a more private area, but chose not to, so that his workers could see him.
His "humanitarianism" crumbles as soon as any money gets involved. He keeps making business with China and praising them on Twitter, despite them essentially being a genocidal authoritarian dictatorship. He has even said that he thinks governments should mostly just exist to break up monopolies.
There is nothing overblown about the Starlink situation. Drones play a huge part in the war in Ukraine, and Elon is denying Ukraine a huge advantage in that area.
I agree that he has done great work with Tesla and SpaceX, but he is still a selfish asshole with way too much power.
The fact that a non-war company managed to produce an equipment better than many for-war companies
It's not better. It's cheaper. And are you surprised that it's cheaper lol
@@garylangford6755 It is Chinese after all
@@garylangford6755 i'll bite, which company is better?
The impact of starlink as described in this video is greatly overblown. Starlink has been at best, a miniscule contributor. There are likely some national guard units using them, but the main Ukrainian army has secure and dedicated systems. That's why when starlink services started to get limited 6+ months ago, there was little impact to Ukraine's military operations.
Starlink also has ZERO direct communication ability with the drone itself while it is in the air flying. This video makes no sense when they say can "live stream the drone feed", but while at the same time "but the military communications remained intact". It literally contradicts itself and is completely false.
As far as I know, DJI drones are limited in hardware to only connect to satellite systems such as gps, glonass and bds, excluding Starlink.
I remember when someone mentioned a drone, you knew right away that they were a bee keeper.
What a time to be a drone enthusiast
bad time. All your parts now count as "possible war-stuff", so prices gets up, batteries price goes up, everything fked up due to FPV, you just can't fly to your joy.
Same thing for Russia, but they banned ANY drone launch, the penalties is also sky-high to pay...
Very bad time.
It's not really the first case of drone warfare. The US used them heavily, it was just completely one-sided in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And then the Armenian war saw the first use by both sides.
Those ISIS terrorists also used them for reconnaissance and grenade dropping in Syria in 2015 I think
@@Damathus aren't both the same ?
Ought see what our cops use, if you asleep and wake up burning send your DJI mini 2 and see theirs aiming thermal at you while u sleep, thermal at 8 ft burns
Someone send me the remote dropper and small lightweight powerful bombs I’ll do a test and maybe my test can save lives
It's crazy that some company making drones for hobbyists are suddenly military suppliers for the Russia-Ukraine war.
That happens in every war like in ww2 Ford and Studebaker went from commercial production to supplying vehicles to the army.
Its crazy that Marie Curie was exploring radiation for a daily use and then suddenly she became the worlds biggest threat to all humanity.
She would burn her self alive in public for finding out what her research has been used for.
@@TheObserver3 Most of Russian Lend/Lease vehicles during WWII were Ford trucks, for decades AFTER WWII Russia continued to produce obsolete trucks based on WWII Fords! Like the Chinese Communists the Russians are only GOOD at copying!
By that logic, Toyota have supplied for ISIS for years...
nah US just call every company they want as military supplier and ban it
Besides DJI , there are many other companies in China that can provide good quality and cost-effective drone motors
The other day I had a helicopter and drone circling within a two block radius of my house at night looking for a missing woman. It's crazy how commonplace they are now.
I can't wait to get my hands on these in military surplus lmao
In europe those models with already tampered software to allow them to go higher
than forced max altitude. And no broadcast their info around would be somehow illegal today.
But yes i personally would prefer those exacly because no restrictions.
@@Kesssuli To be fair, DJI disables geo fencing atleast for firefighters and other emergency personnel. I would imagine that they can hide police drones too
@@xWood4000 Of course military and goverment usage should be free of software restrictions.
But as citizen in todays europe there are limitations least where i live how high can drone climb
and you need to have kind of lisence to operate one. + drone should contain all information of
its owner if shit happens. Dont know for sure is that droadcast of information meant for
new bough drones or ones in bigger class.
Least for now those can be bough whitout any information shared
but if want to use it least in public i think there is fine if things arent in check.
So if you dont care about sharing your information then why i would not want unrestricted
version so it could least fly higher and wont broadcast your personal info and location.
I think most of commercial drones can be altered with third party softwares but would not
recommed to use that to video your weddings in city areas.
"Geran-2" is not russian at all, it's Iranian Shaheed 131/136
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6:58 I had indeed not seen that drone -- it sure looks like a beast
Cool thing about the DJI is you can swap out the radio controller for different frequencies to prevent 2.4 and 5.8GHz jammers. A 2.6GHz radio controller completely circumvents a $20k 2400-2485MHz jammer. Starlink however is very easy to jam since it purely operates between 70-90GHz.
Those drones were developed next door to my last work place. We had a 2,100 square foot warehouse and the military rented the 4,200 space next door. They put up sound acoustic foams to dampen the noise of the drones test fly and cover up the windows to prevent being able to see through the windows I think for secrecy. Damn were they noisy at hell. It's like hearing a legion of hornets or bees just bzzzzzzzzzinnnnnggg around.
How do you know it was drones, maybe it was a dildo manufacturing facility.
Thanks for your unbiased reporting
i wish XD
When did DJI ever provide drones themselves? People have been getting them from volunteers and donors since day one. Pretty informative video and the e-warfare aspect of this war is amazing so Im glad for videos like these but I'm m not sure that constitutes as being banned.
they banned direct sales to the ukrainian military. instead, they are bought by volunteers in different countries.
This is the best channel, I just finished watching all your videos~
That must have been one massive binge!
Ironically, im impressed that Russia is able to pull this far with basically the whole world against it right now.
Russian resilence is something.
No, it’s only western countries that are boycotting Russia, the 3rd world countries still support Russia
Dave Australia here just came across this video.Great video
Man this is gonna be like Ace Combat 7 with the drones produced by Grunder Industries
Arsenal Birds being constructed as we speak xD
Thank you
No mentioning of Leleka, Furiya, Ram2 , shark drones. Ukraine has advantage with drones in this war.
Not that big as you may think. I believe Russia actually has better organized industrial production despite sanctions. Iranian drones are regularly sent by Russia to attack Ukraine, Ukrainian drones with similar capabilities were late and less numerous.
Russian mass-produced drones are causing serious damage but their successes are not published by pro-Ukrainian side in English for obvious reasons. Also, Russians have big superiority in electronic warfare. I'm pro-Ukrainian, but I'm really worried when people think Ukraine has a higher hand here. No, the situation is actually quite desperate. That Russia is losing way more troops is of course true, but it is not (that big) a problem for Russia, because they are more careful about selecting and sending ppl they don't care about. Russia is not losing high value civilians(except to emigration) :(
@@noop9k What? Where are you digged this? (give the sources to proving your information)!
A logical question, why Putler's like a puppet begging on Iran and Chines “military support” when “Russia actually have better organized industrial production than Ukraine” ?
On youtube, you may watch many videos about russian drones, they are made from junk, digital cameras and plastics bottles inside!
Not really !!! Ukraine doesn’t have Drone superiority over Russia whatsoever .
@@wallingnaga6563 d
Information has always been king, even since ancient times.
"stop using our products for war" 😭
"No."
we use it not for war, but again it, idiots. Ukraine didn't start the war, we defend our people, kids from rapists and looter.
The knife was first designed to cut food, not people.
The firearm was first designed to burst into the sky, not people.
The drone was first designed to shoot the happiness, not people.
Pretty sure the firearm has always been for killing people.
You should note a later released maintinance report of the moskva revealed that those anti air defences didnt work in the first place, and that the radar was off due to an old engine being unable to power it
No matter what the reason, the submarine Moskva is doing fine under the Black Sea!
How embarrassing. And it's supposed to be a flagship.
0:33 "the dji mavic"
Proceeds to show dji air 2s.
he means the Mavic series. the DJI Air 2S is a Mavic series drone. they are using Mavic drones, such as the Mavic 3, Mini, Air and Pro
It's a bit silly to call the Mavic "A drone designed to film weddings".
It's a rather sturdy aircraft that can go many miles in sub-zero temperatures,
adverse weather conditions and near total darkness.
Coolest thing I’ve ever seen!
A plastic pop bottle is a perfectly valid fuel tank, especially when weight is an important variable. You simply cannot make a bottle cheaper and more reliable then pop bottles. Yes it will be pierced easily, but just rough handling wont break it, these bottles are made to resist international shipping.
You do have a point, though i do find it weird they use canon camera's. There must be better options out there?
1:17 I don’t think so
That would only raise alertness
MY OG mavic still flies great after 5 yrs! DJI and all consumer drones use 2.4ghz for transmission, which really should be easy to jam for a competent military.
Russia however does not have a competent military
@@memethief4113 Or they just care a lot less about loss of life than other countries do.
@@definingslawek4731 which is incompetent
Ukrainians have said that both sides have decent jamming capabilities that they both use.
@@memethief4113 🤡
Its hard to argue with the price to technology ratio of those dji drones
The future of warfare almost feels like an April Fools prank, but it isn’t.
Can you also provide metric equivalents of the US units?
Turn on closed captions, they provide metric too
What's metric? =P
@@Yuki_Ika7 I don't see it. For example see timestamp 4:40.
@@williamyoung9401 Usually that means unit system what about 80% of world coutries use
to tell distances, size, weight, etc.
@@SDX2000 It actually says 120 km in the corner.
8:04 also, there is a photo showing Ukrainians using discord as a group chat while working in their bases.
Patrick Cockburn in the London Review of Books wrote a good article about drones in warfare, easy to find online.
I don't want to brag, but when I saw the first commercial avaible drone I said to family and friends, that they will change war forever. Regarding the depletion of the world's oil reserves, the endgame for gas guzzling vehicles, like planes, middle sized ships and tanks has come. The war of the future is lightweight, smart and electrical. My 5 cents, that the Chinese-US-war will be the last fought with those stoneagelike machines.
China has more technology than usa
what people rarely understand is that mavics and FPV suicide drones are used side by side. Nowadays in the war, the mavics aren't used so often to carry bombs, they are replaced by FPV suicide drones. What the Mavics are used for here is recon. Ask yourself how did the FPV drone find the targets they want to kill in the first place? THey use mavics camera, thermal, and zoom capabilities to find the targets, use the range finder to hand out the coordinates to FPV pilots to attack. FPV pilots are not effective for wide area recon and that's why Mavics are used.
"made in China" has a quality of its own
Yes, Cheap and disposable is a quality.
@@A_Haunted_Pancake oh noes... they make majority of EV batteries.
@@A_Haunted_Pancake didn't you watch the video? Their drones are the best in the world.
@@A_Haunted_Pancakeguess u still living in the cave
@@byc6230 prejudice
I remember when all we used drones for was observation. When I said something about adding some hellfire missles, my NCO suggested I write the Jiont Chiefs a letter suggesting adding those hellfire missles, but we just laughed because we knew that was the obvious future.
Tiny and cheap FPV kamikaze drones now dominate the battlefield. We assemble them ourselves here from parts, and we need tens of thousands of them every month. Mavic is too expensive and is used for reconnaissance from a long distance.
Sounds like a nice playground :)❤
I am so proud that our Bayraktar TB-2 is a game changer. I hope this war will stop as soon as possible.
now bayraktars doesn't come closer than 20 km to front line, if they come they just die, they were effective first weeks then russian army just adopted
The funny thing about this is that there are even cheaper drones out there. Sure they suck, but they work "good enough" for certain tasks like finding out how the enemy forces are deployed.
The US military needs to move away from the multimillion $$$ UAVs that form the backbone of the UAV force. I was a test engineer for the MQ-4C Triton and I’d rather see a thousand small drones for the price of one Triton. They need to be small yet large enough to carry a 5-10kg payload and cheap enough that if one goes donee due to gun fire or EW the soldier can grab another and immediately carry on their mission. Yes cheap enough that if it goes down grab another as compared to Triton or other large ones where if it goes down you’ve lost control and monitoring of the battle space. A large UAV is not easily replaced where the lead time for replacement is months or years. Also the COMMS link needs rethinking. With limited bandwidth available and the threat of EW needs to be rethought. If in an attack mode give it a target and let AI take over if the command link is lost. If GPS is jammed or spoofed have inertial guidance take over and continuously update the position when GPS is available and reliable. The AFU really needs to have an accurate INS to take over on its long distance drones, the ones with a range of over 500km. GPS spoofed? Let INS take over until clear of the spoofed area. Slava Ukraini! Oh and I can’t wait for Ukrainian university students attend the SUAS annual competition! Hope they bring lots of patches and a big appetite. Our community will welcome them with open arms.
I'd be interested in hearing your opinion as an engineer/operator on the even more expensive stealth drones. Do you think stuff like to SR 72 SoaBb is just as much a waste? Or is it just Triton with it being essentially the worst of both worlds (expensive but too slow/unstealthy)
I agree with you but at the same time you need big drones for surveillance, for an important reconnaissance mission you are going to need a Global hawk not a cheap and extremely small drone, i think we need both small and big drones for all type of jobs
A good ad. for DJI product.
What i find the most interesting and hilarious thing is that....... The military which is funded billions right and dji manages to out do them....... Now I'm not saying that someone should be fired.
Although the M30 is an even more attractive device for warzone operations, as it not only has 16x optical zoom and 200x hybrid zoom but also a thermal camera, can carry higher payload, switch batteries much faster, fly in light rain thanks to IP54 and also handle harsher winds. It also features a pointable range finder, which can be useful for scouting.
Mavic cost 600 dollars How much can you afford? 20 thousand for something that might not come back or 600. War CA be won on a battlefield or by who has anything that can cost you and bankrupt you. There is after the war is over what are you going to do Question
@@markgranger9150 Thermal Camera and rain resistance is huge. 20k is rly rly Cheap considering good scouting and info collecting can save lots of lives.
How much is your life worth? 20k or 600. Jk.
In reality it will be whether you can carry it or not. Smaller one will be better for infantry and higher risk shorter range situations, bigger for other longer range.
@@ex0duzz Its 21st century dude. Everything have a number. People are worth more than we were in 20th but not by much.
Like I love to say, War drives Innovation.
So does porn.
Litteraly most tech came from war, something really changes our brain when we are near death and danger it tries to look for a way to escape.
@@SilentKnight43 VR technology has never been more advanced
What you need to do is take something like the Black Hornet and make the propeller as loud as possible, maybe even an LED flash on it. Fly those around the trench lines all night long and no Russian would get any sleep after that.
The reason that the two Ukrainian missiles were able to penetrate the Moskva's air defense was because THEY WERE OUT OF ORDER as well as a lot of other stuff on the ship. There was a leaked russian report about this. They had seriously neglected that ship and considering it was the crown jewel of Russian navy, I shudder to think about the condition of their other ships.
Can’t have wars ending in a Day, now can we !
Both sides in this war have committed more war crimes with DJI equipment than any other equipment. I have seen thousands of unarmed injured soldiers, even medics carrying litters with injured soldiers, mercilessly get hit with grenade after grenade over and over and over, returning to base to reload then returning every two grenades. They knew the enemy were now bad targets as they were out of the fight, injured, and unarmed, and yet they just kept going. Ukraine is probably the worst for this because they publish it. Russians at least only post their war crimes to Telegram channels.
US military: so you mean now we don't do Blitzkrieg like strategies? No series of weapons dropping as if birds are pooping? WTF? Now you guys are talking about how cost optimization implications of war, and not the multi-trillion dollar budget with military industrial complex, that's stupid!
"You take a drone, attach a proximity charge, feed information about the target and sweep the building" - Elon Musk
Then the target just closes door or hides in a closet and gg. Target will hear it coming a mile away if it's flying indoors.
there's a video on the internet (im not gonna say the website) of a ukrainian drone dropping a grenade directly onto a russian and exploding as his comrade is stunned in awe of what just happened and the drone recorded the whole thing
0:50 the perfect drone
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DJI is 100% Chinese origin.
Ah, yes, the legendary SMO - Special Mavic's Operation.
I'm surprised triple A hasn't become more common, given the cost of anti-air missiles.
Give it time. AAA was more or less being phased out until quite recently. Now they have a purpose again. Honestly, something like a Wirbelwind would be perfect for anti-drone use.
Imagine a 22lr. CIWS, I wonder how that would play out LOL
@@hebleh5771 Brilliant. Worlds smallest brrt
@@realityveil6151 more like a prrfft
Anyone else immediately think “That’s a Pelican!” when they saw the drone at 6:14? 😂
Wait until Boeing finishes their testing of the Wingman drone. That thing can take off from both ground and carrier bases, as well as carry out air to ground attacks or air to air attacks. It carries the same payload as an F35 but is 40% smaller since it doesn't have to accommodate a pilot. The drones can autonomously carry out missions or be controlled via operator as well. And they're relatively cheap too, also come with a stealth option. Pretty much every military drone contractor is looking at Ukraine right now for field tests.
Prepare for taxes raises. That shit aint cheap or indestructible.
I heard that they are easy countered by EMP weapons. Developed nations have these capabilities so pilots will always be supreme. Its like with tanks getting countered by anti-tank missile worth 20k.
@@EddyKorgo You realise that the US military complex just generates money for the economy? The money they spend on those drones dont just dissapear, they go into manufacturing, which goes into tens of other industries.
@@ImadZeryouh EMP weapons like nukes? I think the EMP effect would be least of concern.
@@owo1744and to add onto that, even with a pilot a plane can be affected with emp lol.
The problem with military developers is they charge a significant premium for their "military grade" drones. Whilst commercial drones optimized for price are just as effective or better. For the moment: Cheap drones> Expensive drones in most use cases. The military drones need to drastically get cheaper.
I sent my DJI drone to Ukraine. I hope they put it to good use.
That's awesome ! 🤜🤛
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Meanwhile Russians can just drive across the border to China and buy as many as they want, and if that's too slow they've also flown military transports directly to Shenzhen to pick up in bulk.
Thank you so much🤘
There's a Minor inaccurate statement there at 1:48. Where you were saying TB-2 is E-Z target for missiles!, So i'm providing a detailed answer as to why "IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK!" (Just kidding there, i couldnt help but throw that in, but before i go further, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR AWESOME VIDEOS! KEEP IT UP! I've been a subscriber ever since i stumbled onto this channel back in the first days of the Ukraine war! So anyways, I wanted to explain, when it comes to the TB-2, its EXTREMELY HARD TO LOCK ONTO WITH MODERN MOBILE SAM SYSTEMS! AND, it flies too high to be seen or locked onto with shoulder fired SAM's! That's because almost the entirety of it's fuselage, is constructed of CARBON FIBER materials! So, that "lack of metal" in it's construction, has a TINY ALMOST TINY BIRD SIZED, RADAR SIGNATURE! BUT, after the Moskva was sunk, the Russians DID figure out the range or "data block" of frequencies that the TB-2 operates on! So, even though a TB-2 can rapidly switch frequencies to maintain encryption and a clear signal back to it's base of operations that because of that rapid switching of the signal, it's almost impossible to hijack.. but it IS POSSIBLE to figure out the "frequency range" that it's switching from and to, and then "Blanket an area" with jamming signals and thus, blocking those signals!
So the Russians started Jamming that section of those "radio frequencies" & "GPS SIGNALS" in order to "BLANKET JAM" the TB-2's operating signals, (and the Bayraktar company constantly updates the software on the drone in order to change that range every few weeks, so the Russians have to figure it out all over again, but due to the value of the TB-2 Ukraine no longer just puts them up against "front-line" targets! And as for the Russians and their Jamming, they only do this near all of their expensive equipment, so you see that group of "radio frequencies", and "GPS Signals" being jammed by Russian Mobile Jamming stations, that are strategically placed to be nearby their higher-end air defense systems such as the Pantsir, and TOR-M2, and to a lesser extent, they also Jam near groups of the higher-end artillery systems but only the ones firing in groups or large batterry firing artillery, and you will, ESPECIALLY see those frequencies and GPS Signals being jammed near ALL of their war ships nowadays! (but the reason for that is obvious!)
So from what I've read lately, the TB-2 is mostly used nowadays for long range reconnaissance! Because it has excellent optics! As well as it can zoom in on something from a few miles away and get a very clear picture and coordinates that it can send to artillery units such as HIMARS and others like it! (again: this is from what i've read, so this may not be the entirety of it's day to day missions, as it IS a war with constant changing tactics, & counter-tactics! So the TB-2 is still used and very much still an integral part of the Ukrainian defenses, as well as being used in Ukraine's current "summer counter-offensive!" However, it's just no longer doing as many "risky missions" these days, but it's still flying high and helping out! (sorry for the long comment, but as you can see, i REALLY am cheering on Ukraine and it's fight for it's own freedom as a country!)
not a fan of dji but got to respect their stand on this one
develop drones, make them for war, ai improves, goes rogue, gets control on drones, then we have Terminator irl series.. scary
Not really, since it's a completely unrealistic scenario.
And Elon is charging them a ton of money to use it.
It's completely contradictive for Elon musk to complain about them using his starlink for drones. Considering he has another venture with Starlin called star shield for those exact purposes. What in the hell did he think it's going to be used for, in regions that have been completely destroyed with absolutely no population but the troops themselves!? What a piece of work especially drone manufacturers, like now you're going to tell me what I can and can't do with my own property that I purchase! ? News flash once I buy it, it no longer belongs to your company and I can do with it whatever I want. Talk about not supporting the Free world, because takeing away capabilities like that directly supports Russia. It will alway's be in Russia's favor to take away any capabilities from Ukraine.
The ship got destroyed because only 1 out of 3 anti air systems worked(Russian standards) and the radar was off because it interfered with the communication sistems.
You can find all of this in a log book 1 month before it was destroyed.
Direct links to that info?
@@snorttroll4379 I would love but I don't think I can post links
@@aihtrvfuh498 😂😂😂
This is from a so called report about the state of the Moskva which is allegedly "leaked" from Russia. You can figure it out it is completely fabricated for propaganda based on how the claims conflict with the performance of the ship bombing Odessa. Plus the claims mentioned above, it also says its missile strike capabilities are limited, which appears to be wrong based on the damage it caused at Odessa.
Don't believe everything you read, since both sides apply heavy doses of propaganda.
My friend, the english word "scarce" does not rhyme with "parse" - it's pronounced "scAIRse". Great content as always.
So the question is where can we have mavics shipped for the Ukrainians to pick them up. More, drone hobbyists in the United States... can you start cranking them out. Name an hourly rate, and then start making quads, and long-range winged capable of carrying between 0.5 and 2.2 kilograms (1 to 4 drop grenades). Perhaps talk to styropyro about a laser designator & dronemesh about the drones. I wish I could help but those aren't my hobbies. I can help fund though. I'm not rich but crowdfunding could help.
its all cool until EMP's starts... and when this happens, the next war will be fought using sticks and stones... Just saying
The new role of FPV drones, which are now the deadliest weapon in Ukraine is a bit understated here.
It is interesting that all these drones that you see on the battlefield were bought exclusively with the money of citizens, because such things cannot be bought from the state budget because of the bureaucracy
The US should set up some factories to produce clones of the DJI drone either directly or by financing reliable companies to do so. Tax incentives and a guaranteed military contract should do the trick. The company would also be able to get into a commercial market with the clone. Might not be able to compete on the commercial though due to the high cost of doing business in the US.