From being Ottoman Empire one of the most feared empire to becoming a NATO lap dog or a US base. Turkey has S-400 Russia said they are not selling those only S-300 were available for purchase. Patriot System lacks distance, it is extremely expensive to operate & maintain, that's why Turks went for Russian systems.
Turkish 5th Gen fighter jet Spec: - 360 degree Gan (Gallium Nitride) Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar - Infrared search and track (IRST) - 360 degree Electronic warfare suite (EW) - Electro Optical targeting system (EOTS) - Directional Infrared Counter Measures (DIRCM) - Manned-Unmanned Teaming (MUM-T) - TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) 1.8 mach cruise speed 2.5 mach max speed Internet weapon bay 55.000 feet operational altitude BVR Air2Air missiles WVR Air2air missiles Cruise missiles Anti-Ship missiles Air launched ballistic missiles Precision guided rockets Anti-radiation missile Kamikaze (Loitering) drones TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) Color screen and digital night vision technologies will be used for the first time in the system, which was developed as binocular (two optical channels) and viewfinder reflective. In this way, color-specific groupings (friend, foe, etc.) can be made in the symbology information. A hybrid (optical-inertial) system is designed as a head tracking system. The inner helmet will be specially produced for the pilot in terms of both comfort of use and proper viewing. For this, the head structure of the pilot will be scanned and the inner helmet will be processed according to the data generated after the scan. The visor will also be personalized according to the pilot in terms of oxygen mask and face form compatibility. Headphones will have active noise suppression (ANR-Active Noise Reduction) technology, and the pilot's awareness will be increased by transferring the 3D sound from the aircraft's internal speech system in stereo. The image obtained by using high-precision line of sight information from the 360-degree image created by the electro-optical systems on the aircraft will be projected onto the viewfinder and will provide a sense of use as if the aircraft does not have a fuselage. ASELSAN's 3D Audio Technology is based on HRTF (Human Related Transfer Function). 3D Audio is created spatially based on the location information of the warning and the head movements of the pilot. So the sound is transmitted as if it is coming from above, below, right or left. Thanks to 3D Audio technology, the pilot's environmental awareness increases, response time and workload decrease. Radio separation is created using 3D Audio. Communication channels are transmitted to the pilot from different angles so that the pilot can easily distinguish between channels. 3D Audio Features • Real-Time Operation • Radio Separation • Directional Warning • Global Positioning • Reduced Response Time • Reduced Workload • Increased Environmental Awareness Even the F35/F22 does NOT have these features combined
The real reason why Turkey bought S400 is because NATO allies closed the Patriots in Turkey. In the same year, ISIS threatened to launch missiles at Turkey
Can you make a video on the Israeli lavi jet that the U.S stoped development of since it would completely destroy the sales of the f16 since it was the best on out of them?
As a Kurd, I feel the responsibility to fix one thing in your video, our country which is Türkiye is not in war with the Kurds. We are fighting with the terrorists called ypg-pkk. It doesn't matter that America distinguishes between those two, but we know and they internally know that these are the same terrorist organization. They are active in different countries though it doesn't change anything.
Both are CIA proxies (fighting against another proxy which is ISIS, scripting a story creating both the protagonist and the antagonist alinging with their (CIA) interests). I’m a Turk you’re a Kurd doesn’t matter, you’re a MAN. Bless your soul!
Knowing how Turkish got as cheap workers got techot by espionage stolen technology used I know this from mouth of turk person himser who has own contact worked in Germany do almost all major industrial mfg activities stolen all technology copied in turkey even ship yards
Hello. You used the phrase "Kurdish Forces" in the content. This is very wrong and misleading information. Turkish armed forces only fight against "PKK and YPG" terrorists. Millions of Turkish citizens of "Kurdish" origin in my country. We have thousands of citizens of "Kurdish" origin in the Turkish army. Turkish Armed Forces are fighting against Terrorists to whom the US government has provided thousands of trucks of weapons and training.
I wish we did it together. I wish you wouldn't rush. They deliberately made your plane small. Even if you convert it to the 5th generation, it will remain weak in terms of weapons - avionics - electronic warfare - artificial intelligence and range. Our aircraft has the largest dimensions among the 5th generation aircraft and there is a clear way for it to be converted into the 6th generation. I'd like to say it's not too late yet, but I can't say that because I know you've spent a lot of money and your people's expectations are high. Perhaps you may still choose to maintain 1 or 2 fleets. and thanks
For everyone who doesn’t know Turkish engineers helped design and had key roles in many 5th gen programs here in the USA. F135 engine for the f35 and the F119 engine for the F22. I worked with Turkish engineers daily on the engine line as I’m a jet engine mechanic on both of those platforms. I remember the day they were no longer working with us and out of the program but that’s after 10 or 15 years. I 1000% know they can build a good jet. Because they helped build ours.
I hope one day the world hear my heart words about turkey , im a history enthusiast and i fell in love with the history of turkey , this nations elites have always been on the side of peasants of the world and endured war and losses to maintain it, meanwhile they didnt need it
So they joined NATO and Hitler to help the peasants of the world , makes sense . NO, Turkey wants Ottoman Empire lands back , simple as that within reasonable boundaries . .
This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems. KAAN is as a child game compared to F-35 superior Electronics, Avionics and Sensors.
@@Blodhelmi sggest you to little search about turkish weapons and defence products about how many times they tried in real war and how effective they are.
@@Blodhelmf-22 raptor never flew perfectly, still doesn’t. The 1st start was a disaster. KAAN‘s first flight ever was successful. Just shut up and accept it.
Mostly people dont know That Turkey was working by F35 and F22 Jet engine. They are able to build self jet engine for Kaan fighter jet and could be not only 5. Generation could be 5.5 generation and 6. Generation fighter jet. That is the realty that world dont know about it They showed allready thems power and independent. Be proud Turkey.
You have to wake up from turkish propaganda myths, when you go to buy in a supermarket and realize that genteel poverty is not enough to feed your famiy.
Greetings from Turkey. You are always wellcome my friend. The people who shout antiTurkish slogans are generally the ones who never visits Turkey or who has political bias against Turkey. It is nice to see we still have friends out there.
@@JohnJaneson2449 WW1 was finished in 1922 for us. We had never accepted the peace treaty of Sevres, on the contrary Germany's treaty of versailles. After the ceasefire of mondros. We organized a war against Britain France Italy and Greeks. And we gained our independence under the rule of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. So we cannot consider Turkey as a "sure loser" of WW1
@@JohnJaneson2449türkler ww1 de yenilmedi arkadaşım. Okursan anlarsın. Bize ilkokulda öğretilen ve hepimizin hafızalarına kazınan şey şudur ; “almanlar kaybettiği için biz de kaybetti sayıldık.”
Honestly being self sufficient in defense just seems like extremely basic "defense 101" stuff to me even if your in a military alliance. So i can't blame them for wanting the ability to defend themselves on their own.
Being self sufficient is nice in theory, but unlikely to be useful in a major war. Capability on day one combined with stockpiles of material should be the target.
If you aren't part of an alliance yeah for sure but being part of NATO you also have to consider the difficulties of incorporating the tech into joint exercises and actual combat..
@@osric1730 The long term wars are over represented in people's minds. Most wars are completed rapidly because the defender did not prepare. Belgium & Korea before WW2 invasions for example. Also small nations will not be able to safeguard infrastructure in advanced warfare. Without a significant fighter advantage to push back cruise missile launch platforms. Depth needed underground to protect a facility are cost prohibitive for production. The USA has made massive contributions to Ukraine as well as many other issues. The EU should be the more involved.
You forgot to mention : - Türkiye was also building the main body frame of the F35. - It all started because the US refused to sell the Patriot system, even after years of negotiations. So Türkiye had to buy Russian equipment. - Greece, which is also part of NATO, has bought Russian defense systems, but the US didn't bother. It was clearly targeting Türkiye to not let them have an effective defense system.
@@ale3hs sorun aten yunan hükümeti. adaları silahlandırıyor hükümetiniz. abd den alabileceğimiz patriotlar sadece türkler için konuşlandırılan bu silahlara karşı angaje olamayacak nitelikte. çünkü nato üyesisiniz. ama yunanistanla bir sorun yaşasak sizin patriotlar bizim nato kodlu her silahımıza angaje olacaktır. açık ve net biçimde yunanistan abd kolonisidir. buna alet olmaktan mutluluk duyuyorsunuz. tarihi nefretleriniz yüzünden. mesele bağımsızlığınız değilmiş. mesele sizi köleleştirenlerin diniymiş! şartlı refleksleriniz sayesinde yunan ve türk silahları birbirine doğru oldukça yaklaşmaya başladı. oysa iki ülke bağımsız bir irade gösterebilseydi egeyi komple ortak toprak ilan edebilir ve bunun ekonomik getirisini kullanabilirdi. bir zamanlar bize yapılan şey şimdi yunanlara yapılıyor. sizler natonun hazır kıtasısınız artık. yakında sivilden asker alımlarının süreleri uzatılacaktır. mutlu olabilirsiniz. bu arada türkiye kendi hava savunma sistemini 600 km kadar üretmeyi başardı ve yunan ordusunun saldırı silahlarının tamamı bu menzilin içinde. bu ekonomik suikastler kaç yıl geciktirebilir ki diğer projeleri! yanyana yaşadığınız insanlarla barış tesis edeceğinize binlerce km ötedeki ülkenin kolonisi olmayı kabul etmek onurunu incitmiyorsa bu sizin bileceğiniz bir şeydir.
Greece never bought the s-300 from Russia it was given to them from Cyprus ! It’s a different situation! You can’t be on both sides ! This is what Turkey does to get what they want
On S-400 you've missed the point that Greece, a NATO ally, already uses S-300. Same point applies to that one as well, Russia personnel can leak radar data to Russia.
@@tomriley5790The S-400 has increased range coverage but the theory of modeling a stealth aircraft from regular radar detection is a valid concern. The long wave radar can see disruptions in the air and given enough time of knowing an F-35 is flying past it's entirely possible to program the detection and tracking of it into the system. The concern of this information 'leaking' to a potential adversary is absolutely valid.
I’m guessing there’s a lot to dig into and unpack there, that sounds like an interesting avenue to investigate. I’ll look into it in the future when i cover this aircraft again
Imho that's why US waited until there was absolutely no way Russian personnel will get in contact with Greece to give the green light for F-35s. I guess the invasion of Ukraine made things more straightforward also considering Erdogan's approach.
@@Taskandpurpose he isnt telling the full story but yes. south cyprus bought it originally and turkey threatened to destroy it preemptively so they gave it to greece.
Wow... This was the far most objective review of the MMU Kaan Project I've seen on YT. You did really great job reading both nation's interests&goals and how other international experts view about the project 👌Let's see if all this work and money spent on Kaan will pay off in the future of the Turkish Air Force
This was really objective, the only and one thing we can criticize is that he called PKK Terrorists Kurds but we Turks dont have problem with Kurds but its really hard for them to understand that. Its funny how a western country can be ally with a Leninist, Communist, drugs selling Terrorist group..
well not all americans are sarcastic, neither blinded of their own ignorance nor stupid. someone check the facts and observing. this man is good. small flaws here there but its a really objective video.
The moral of the story is, do not impose arms embargo and hidden conditions onto your customers because it will spur them to be self-reliant and eventually compete for the future customers when their product is matured and ready for export
Moral of the story, read deeper into an issue before spewing nonsense. Turkey didn’t get the patriot system for one reason and one reason only they demanded a technology transfer upon the sale of Patriot missiles. They were denied so they bought the s400 systems with Russia with the intent to buy the s500 batteries. The moment they did that they were removed from the f-35 program their 8 jets on Luke afb confiscated and sat for 2 years before we paid out the money to Turkey for the jets and took them under the United States air-force training squadron.
It wasn't unreasonable for NATO to impose restrictions on Turkey for purchasing s400s and the potential for giving away classified info as a result to the Russians
You can be sure that there will be much more than this. because their scrap will explode in their hands because they cannot compete with their cutting-edge competitors. They will not want to sell their equivalent technologies just because they want to use them privately.
Турция молодцы ❤ Турецкий военно промышленный комплекс на высшем уровне ❤Турция доказали всему миру что они могут выпускать конкурентные вооружения ❤Всем мира и добра ❤❤❤
I wish Turkey the best of luck and good will.When a country can fabricate its own airplanes it shows knowledgable people and technology that goes into an airplane.The design the power factor,the stress factor the light weight metals and alloys that make it strong and light weight and the engine for thrust and initiate lift over gravity and drag good work TURKEY.
@@Kenny-yl9pc He probably is a fake account of turkish propaganda service or is an uneducated person without any knowledge of modern Science and Technology and Economics and Aviation matters
@@Kenny-yl9pc If you don't know anything about the subject you're talking about, you should avoid being so specific. It is wrong to directly compare the F-35 with any other fighter project. In the JSF project, three different aircraft were designed, using common parts and one of which could land vertically. Besides sensor fusion, this is the most important reason why the project cost is so high and the development time is so long. Are there definitive written requirements that make an aircraft 5th generation? If our criterion for being the 5th generation is the F-35, there is no other 5th generation fighter in the world. The K-21, which some call the 5th generation, does not have an internal weapon station and uses the F-414 engine. J-20 must not meet the 5th generation criteria with those canards. SU-57 is a completely different story anyway. Even the F-22 should not be considered the 5th generation since it does not have sensor fusion like the F-35. Moreover, even the F-35 has other problems, such as limited super cruise ability and very high exhaust gas temperature, which negatively affects the stealth feature of the F-135 engine. The aviation technology and industry that you say Turkey does not have was one of the most important parts manufacturers for the F-35. It was producing both the middle fuselage and some parts of the F-35, which is the most complex body part, and many critical parts of the F-135 engine. Some of which it was the sole supplier of. Even F-35 program manager Tom Burbage said in an interview that Turkey is one of the best and trouble-free suppliers in the program and their problem is that they cannot give more work to Turkey because they have to give work to other program partners. Turkeye had previously announced that the first models would be the 4.5 generation KAAN Block 10. Aselsan develops the avionics and EOTS system. Research on radar absorbing paints and coatings has been carried out for years. The radar, which you say does not exist, was made in Turkey, including its microchip design, and testing of the finished prototypes has even begun. KAAN has two important parts that will be foreign sourced. One is the engines and the other is the ejection seat, both of which are being worked on, especially the engine. Türkiye is developing an aircraft that suits its needs and it doesn't have to be better than the F-35 in every aspect. Yes, Turkey will need time, especially for engine and sensor fusion, but they are not expected to be in the first block anyway. So it would be better if you do some research before you start talking nonsense.
@@Kenny-yl9pc You can't know that. You wouldn't know the technology in this plane. Moreover, Tusaş, which has been in the aviation industry for years, is not an ordinary company. Tusaş is a company that produces F16s under license, even better than Lockheed Martin. They made F16 with 0 errors. 17,000 engineers and technical staff work on the TFX Kaan aircraft at Tusaş alone. And this project was officially announced and started in 2009.
And thanks to the United States for providing us a great education. Some of the engineers building those plans got their education in the states. As a dual citizen of Turkey and America, god bless both of them.
Turkey has done a few innovative things. Tactical usage of drones is one of them. The US has used drones on an operational level, but rarely on a tactical level. Turkey has massively used very small drones in foward area to decisively destroy battlefield area units.
@@perrygiles9123also look at the use of Turkish bayraktar drones in the Armenia - Azerbaijan war in which Turkish drones were successfully used tactically as op mentioned. Also look at the recent conflict in Ethiopia where the government successfully held back rebels, in part using Turkish Bayraktars
Turkey is country thats constantly at war with irak and syria as neigbours. Iran and Russia are serious threads as well. So they have the motivation and the experience. Just their industry and knowledge holds them back
The USA really did put Turkey in a BOX on this one. Turkey needed a missile defenses system urgently to protect itself and The USA would not sell them the same system they have sold or given to other countries. They buy from another source and The USA tells them if you buy it, we kick you out of a multi-billion dollar partnership you are a MAJOR Player in? Yeah, Turkey building their own planes works out best for them.
It's not that the US refused to sell it, they didn't. The US had no qualms about selling patriots to Turkey. The problem was that Turkey wanted technology transfer to manufacture it themselves, and the US refused to sell the PAC-3 with technology transfer. They were offered PAC-3 with no technology transfer or PAC-2 with technology transfer. Instead they bought S-400 and lost their F-35s, although that seems to be changing now that the US has offered to let Turkey back into the F-35 program if they get rid of the S-400s (probably by giving them to Ukraine).
@@sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863 Yeah India wont deal with any one that doesn't give them full technology tranfer but Biden did just to get them in the door at the press conference he blurted out "Wev told India everything " 😅
@@braddbradd5671 except that Turkey is the major USA ally in the Middle East and second strongest country in the NATO. Turkey has a very strategic position controlling the Middle East, Mediterranean, and controlling the Black Sea access (meaning controlling the Russian fleet). Turkey influences most of Muslin countries, including Pakistan and the former Soviet Union republics. Not to mention that Turkey's military is way stronger than Indian.
@@arystanbeck914 absolutely correct about Turkey’s strategic value to NATO. Turkey is the strongest bridge to Muslim states for the NATO alliance, both culturally and geographically. However, India is generally considered to be the 4th strongest military power on earth, while Turkey generally falls between 8-11 on most empirical datasets. No disrespect toward Turkey, or their military, just accurate information.
Turkey's history is just brilliant. From tribes to castle to mansions.Osman bey built the foundation of state and orhan bey was the first sultan called sultan orhan who conquered bursa.Then,sultan mehmat fateh conquered Constantine and now they become from land to the sky i.e,from horses to fighter jets.JUST MIND BLOWING.
Turkish history is not just about the Ottoman Empire. Ottoman is just one of them. Turks established the oldest army known in history. Look at the coat of arms of the Turkish Land Forces and you will see. In the year 209 BC. The written history of the Turks is 3000 years old. unwritten, 5-7 thousand years old. We have established 16 great empires in history. The last one is Turkiye.
Turkey has always been a stragic partmer with us and has been a good partner. They live in a tough neighborhood, and have mostly been the adult in the room. They probably just want our support, but not our control. Understandable. America hasn't been there for our partners interest in the past. I wish them luck.
I was expecting to watch a one-sided and biased anti-Turkish video. Thank you for surprising me with this well-researched, and as-is neutral display of facts. That is how strategic reporting should be!
@@JohnJaneson2449 All the establishment media in the West is anti-Turkish by default. It may be difficult for you outsiders to grasp it but it's too real to ignore for us. Türkiye's move toeards military self-sufficiency is always viewed as a sort of "betrayal" by the western media. When Türkiye puts its national interests first, it is portrayed as "unreliable ally, rogue ally", but when the U.S. and other bigwigs do it, it is "patriotism."
@@JohnJaneson2449well, since turkey and nato arent that fond of each other anymore, because of the s400 scandal, decreasing democracy in turkey and turkey trying to do its own thing internationally(like having more contact with russia and china than the west would like)it became a standard to talk down and not acknowledge turkish accomplishments. Its like two Friends who have a dispute and now one of them(the west) talks shit about the other one behind his back(that would be the west talking turkish accomplishments bad)
@@JohnJaneson2449 It has historical and geopolitical reasons. Türkiye emerged out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire, which again was the successor of other Turkish empires like the Selcuks or Göktürks. Empires create tensions and friction as regional powers. The same applies to today's only global power, namely the USA. So, if you modify your question as "Why would anyone be anti-US?" then almost the same answers and reasons apply 1.1 to Türkiye.
@@onentogar9599 You gave me good answer on geopolitical level, but on personal level I can't fathom it. For example, I can see why people dislike CCP/PRC China because of the foreign minister bullying and Chinese internet trolls constantly insulting everyone for no reason at all. I just don't see the same attitude towards the Turks or Turkish government for that matter. Turkish government might be imperfect but it's not offensive at all to most people. As a foreigner, I see Turkiye as just a nice place, with nice people, very nice culture, and still acceptably nice government. Armenians and Kurds would disagree, of course.
1. NATO removed their patriot air defence system located in eastern Turkey, while PKK firing rockets from Syria. 2. Turkey purchased the Russian S400 to cover their airspace left unprotected by NATO. 3. It was ok for Greece to purchase the Russian S300, but not ok for Turkey to purchase S400. For Turks, there's no better joke than NATO.
This is a wrong argument. The truth is that Greece existing S-300 systems were purchased by Cyprus for defending the Island but after a strong diplomatic opposition mainly by Israel and secondary by Turkey, USA suggested and the 2 Hellenic States aggreed that S-300 will be transferred to defend Crete and Dodecanese and in return Greece transferred some of her TOR-M1 short range anti-air systems to Cyprus.
@@cihadbektes This is totally different because Turkey bought Russian anti-NATO S-400 systems instead to buy Patriots or similar western systems that were available to her. I remind that Turks did not purchased Patriots because they wanted not only the Patriots systems but also the detailed blueprints and know-how of manufacturing them (for copying! they think of themselves as smart ones...) that is unacceptable by any original manufacturer of a so advanced technological and scientific Armament. The Turkish audacity is unique! No other Patriot owner member country of NATO had a such irrational demand! When Greece took indirectly the cyprian S-300 systems there were no F-35 hint in the horizon. The existing models of HAF then, had no problem coexisting with S-300. Greece allready is studying a new long-range anti-air sustem of high altitude for replacement the old S-300 systems before the arrival of the ordered Greek F-35A.
The concept of having a self sufficient military that can rely solely on the state is smart. Why put your future in the hands of possible enemies? It’s the smart, strong, right thing to do. That way your future is always in your hands. Not someone else’s.
Turkey has gone a long way developing her own weapons as they should and it's also beneficial in the long run. Obviously this specific project has a long way to go but it's on the right track.
Ah yes, their currency in the shitter, with Turkish maids begging us Europeans to give them Euros But you do go own how investing billions in fancy toys is "beneficial".
It is not entirely Turkish. The British helped. Reuters " NATO member Turkey launched its TF-X project to produce a national combat aircraft in 2016. Turkish aerospace firm TUSAS signed a deal with Britain's BAE Systems (BAES.L), opens new tab worth $125 million in 2017 to develop the next-generation fighter jet. "
Turkey has long been home to many nationalities and religious denominations, my Turkish friends are extremely kind, beautiful and intelligent people, i have no doubt of their capabilities to produce a capable and worthy fighter, i hope as a NATO member they make her a extension of NATO as well as a self defense staple for their sovereignty and security, hope to see KAAN airborne and in formation soon...
Good analysis. One item left out is that the F35 has punitively high maintenance costs which could make the Kaan a viable option as they are developing their own engine and could leverage the engine across other planes in development. Very objective and informative clip. Well done!
Thank you for the balanced report. I just want to add that Turkish success is not to limited to this 5th Generation Aircraft, although it is the climax of it for now. In the air defence field, they first produced Hurkus training aircraft with turboprop engine, then the built Hurjet which is a jet-engine powered training/close support aircraft. They are also producing fighter and multi-purpose helicopters (Atak I, Atak II, Gokbey, etc.,). They are producing various types of UAV's and drones, including two Un-Manned jet aircrafts: Kizilelma by Baykar (same company that produces Byraktar 2), and Anka 3 by TUSAS the same company that produces KAAN. They have also developed their own multi-layer air-defence system which is on the production line but it constantly gets range improvements. Within a few years, Turkiye won’t need S-400 systems anymore as its own indigenous system will overpass S-400 capabilities. For the Navy, they built various ships/submarines, etc., as well as their own Aircraft carrier. It is predicted that in 2024 Turkiye’s weapon exports will be around $13 Billion USD.
I think people dont understand how insane this actually is what Turkiye did.. the only other countries that have a Gen 5 Jet are super powers like USA, Russia and China. Turkiye being the 4th country. And the turkish Jet even already has features that are supposed to come in Gen 6 Jets, making it the first Gen 5.5 jet with even more advanced technology.
If we take them at their word. I'm sure there's no problem with that. Not like they have a wannabe dictator who would love to inflate his accomplishments and would have no problem lying to his people and the world to make himself look better, right?
well at the moment they just have a flying prototype, although this is a big accomplishment it doesn't "says" anything about the final result and how stealth and overall capable will be
@@a.d.7042 if you do a little research, you will see that Turkey has already produced all the technologies except the engine for the 5+ Generation fighter jet. AESA radar, infrared and optical sensors, digital warfare, central battle management, cockpit electronics, etc.
they literally forced Turkiye to build its own arsenal. it doesnt need to be the best aircraft ever, but if they build factories running, they will surely make their own engine and keep developing new ones. just 1 more embargo
This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems.
As a Turkish citizen, I have always been curious about the thoughts of Europeans, particularly Americans, which is why I want to share with you how the events mentioned in the video unfolded. First, let me say that no country is perfect; everyone has their faults. Just as the Russian Federation is seen as the successor to the USSR, we in Turkey are seen as the continuation of the Ottoman Empire by the rest of the world. The embargo imposed in 1975, as mentioned in the video, was implemented because of Turkey's 1974 Cyprus Peace Operation, supported by a young senator at the time, Joe Biden. We did not invade Cyprus; the Turks living there were being massacred despite Turkey's repeated warnings (which lasted at least five years). The killings continued unabated. Our military was so weak and in such a dire state that we even struck our own warship due to communication failures. Following this, there was a prolonged American embargo due to Greece's pressures, marking a turning point in Turkey's current military capabilities. At that time, we couldn't even produce a pistol bullet. The proximity of Cyprus to Israel led to security concerns that brought Greece and Israel closer, even though Greece was one of the last countries to recognize Israel (1992), while Turkey recognized it just a year after its establishment and had good relations despite being a predominantly Muslim country. Jumping ahead in history to 2009, at an economic forum attended by Israel, current Turkish President Erdoğan's "One Minute" incident marked the first time Turkey rejected the role assigned to it on the global chessboard by major powers. Since then, relations between Turkey and Israel have never been good. In 2010, when Turkey sent an aid ship to Gaza, it was seized by Israeli military forces in international waters, killing 10 Turkish civilians without any justification, an incident known as the Mavi Marmara incident. You can look this up. Turkey's development in unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) as shown in the video stems from these events. Back then, Turkey was facing terrorism issues in the eastern and southeastern regions, and the only UAVs we had were Israeli-made Herons. The ridiculous part was that while we thought we were monitoring terrorists with these, Israel was watching them before us and had already provided intelligence to the terrorists. The main reason Turkey has become so strong in UAVs today is due to getting kicked while trying to defend itself. The S-400 air defense system issue mentioned in the video is also connected to this, as there is a well-known strong Jewish lobby in America, and by the 2010s, some senators, seeing a strengthening Turkey as an enemy, wanted Turkey out of the F-35 program. This long process continued until the Syrian Civil War erupted in 2011. As the successor of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey realized it was incapable of even protecting its airspace from birds and requested the Patriot air defense system from the U.S., a request that went unanswered for many years. Due to the increasing missile attacks along the border and the loss of civilians, Turkey was forced to meet its air defense needs by purchasing the S-400 from Russia. Citing this as a reason, America removed us from the F-35 program, but it was really about breaking the claws of a non-compliant and uncontrollable Turkey in terms of air power because the region's largest air force had become a threat to Israel. One of the reasons the S-400 issue is utterly absurd is that Greece, a NATO member, has had the S-300 for a long time without any issues. Also, the idea that the F-35's information would fall into Russian hands is equally ludicrous because even now, Israel, which has an F-35 fleet, can freely enter Syrian airspace, where Russia already has the S-400 deployed and has likely obtained all radar signatures of the F-35 for years. This hasn't been a problem for America, but it's an issue for NATO ally Turkey. In short, Turkey's current military strength has always come thanks to the adversities from its regional neighbors. America has never seen NATO member Turkey as an ally due to the powerful Jewish lobby, and their hostile actions are what have led us to this point. There's an old Turkish proverb: "A bad neighbor makes you a homeowner."
You mix some truths with big lies as a real follower of Joseph Goebbels... The illegal turkish invasion of 1974 after a treason by greek yunta in the Democracy of Cyprus with all the barbaric killings of Greco-Cyprians women and children and old people and the brutal rapes of them made by Turkish troops you call it as "Peace Operation"... You have been brain-washed by the deep turkish state...A real nazi practice. And many more lies. For example The truth is that Greece existing S-300 systems were purchased by Cyprus for defending the Island but after a strong diplomatic opposition mainly by Israel and secondary by Turkey, USA suggested and the 2 Hellenic States aggreed that S-300 will be transferred to defend Crete and Dodecanese and in return Greece transferred some of her TOR-M1 short range anti-air systems to Cyprus. The other lie is that America did not wanted sell Patriot system to Turkey. IT IS A BIG WRONG TURKISH PROPAGANDA. USA in reality had no problem sell her Patriot system. Bur "Clever" Turkey wanted in reality to aquire the know-how and the blueprints which is UNACCEPTABLE BY ANY MANUFACTURER. Then Turkey purchased one S-400 system from Russia BUT THE RUSSIANS ALSO DID NOT GIVE THEIR INDUSTRIAL SECRETS AND KNOW-HOW TO TURKS! A big strategic mistake of Erdogan's administration. So neither USA Patriots nor USA F-35 and NO RUSSIAN S-400 BLUEPRINTS FOR TURKEY. In other words the American F-35 is like Ferrari model 2024 supercar while the Turkish KAAN is like Lada model 1970. Such an analogy...
Well written, a lot of citizens from western countries are seeking USA For the monster it is. They sell safety, but at an invisible cost to others in another land leaving their own people unaware and unaffected. It seems the internet has changed that over the last 20 years and people are waking up to the fact they don't really do anything except bully people around for their own gains.
It really isn't the Jewish lobby per se, more like Christian Zionism. The evangelical Christians in the US, are not big fans of the Judiasm but the state of Israel itself that must be run by Jews, to bring forth armageddon. It's a prophecy of sort that the Evangelicals believe in, along with prosperity gospel that you won't find in Catholicism.
Turkey’s incredible achievements of defense industry is going to keep peace at home and in the world. Never underestimate the Turks. It was a good video.
Can’t blame them for wanting to build their own shit! Allies can quickly become adversaries, so relying on other countries for all of your military tech is a huge L
Exporting your military tech to countries that have proven to be friends with your adversaries or at least shown a propensity to be sympathizers to your adversaries, is also an L. Goes both ways, you stand more to lose giving away your tech than you do purchasing it. How ironic would it be if we gave Turkey F-35’s, just for them to get turned on us or handed over to Iran or Russia? No thanks.
"their own" lmao good one. This is using American engines, sensors, computers, radars, etc. This is basically a turkish wrapper on an American product.
@@rock3tcatU233You mean like in a global economy? Nobody is building everything! It is still a big achievement to build a jet, even if the engine comes from somewhere else. Just as the chemicals, the materials, the machines, ... almost everything in the world has parts from somewhere else. That's how a globalized economy works and that's why we can build things cheaply. Jesus Christ, why would you complain about that? Aren't western nations importing everything from China?
@@rock3tcatU233the only thing bought from america is the engine and the only thing bought from england is the ejection seat. american engines will only be used in 20 aircraft. since these engines are already 4 generation engines in these engines, domestic 5 generation engine studies have started, it is planned to catch up with the serial production date of the aircraft, only the ejection seat remains. you have given us a lot of experience by making us produce f-16 and f-35 parts for years and now we can do most things locally.
Turkey shouldn’t have bought the S-400 I was a huge fan of turkeys actions in Syria becuase it undermines assad the Russians and Iran, however buying the S-400 like wtf bro .
@@JeferonConor being paronoid of us millitary bases in greece.But probly some money had to be given to russia for some operation they might do in future after we buy the system that might make some turkish products more needed.;)
@@JeferonConor from my understanding, USA wouldnt sell the defense system for various reasons. I heard Turkish people saying USA wanted full control over the defense systems after they were sold. Turkish and American officers couldnt agree on key points so Turkiye went with russian defense systems because they did not want so many things as USA. Not sure if its true but imagine not selling your ally weapons to defend themselves so hard that they go and buy the weapons from your enemy.
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US : Since you brought some S400s, we ain't selling you F35s Türkiye : ok, hold my döner
The name "Kaan" is itself has roots in the name "Khan" (as in Genghis Khan and Kublai Khan). Needless to say, the Star Trek movie with Captain Kirk screaming "KHAN!!!!" comes to mind when I hear the name of this aircraft.
Actually it is not Khan, that is the european form. Turks and mongols say Hkan. Atleast in modern times. Yes Kaan is Khan. Another form is Kagan and Hakan might be the same.
@@BobInGreek mongolia were whole asia and middle east while seljuk turks were already in anatolia so no turks did not came from mongolia but they have similar culture. But only as similar as polish to russian and ukrainian. Different but similar in some ways
That’s not an excuse to breach contract with a foreign government. If turkey wants to buy a foreign air defense system, they have the right. I’m glad they’re making their own.
It was a bluff. USA refused to sell AA systems, Despite screaming everywhere how Turkey is one of the most important regional allies of theirs. So, Erdogan went for S400 as a power move. Trump then not only kicked Turkey from F35 program, But also refused to return the money they took for the orders for finished F35's. Instead forcefully selling us their old F16's. It backfired, but at least in the long run Turkey wont need to *beg* for AA systems nor Jets from their so called allies.
Before the S400, Türkiye wanted to buy pattriots for a long time and US didn’t give them. So that was necessary to get an air defense and they decided to buy someone else. US left Turkiye alone on this and paying the price.
"Turkey bought S-400 because usa doesnt wanted to sale patriots" se thats the truth and many ppl dont know.Every single word in this video correkt and true.Huge respect to that.First time seing a video in youtube that doesnt contain any fake,untruth words or visualisation.Worth watching ,great job .
Yeah expect he said fighting against Kurdish Forces, that was wrong. Turkey is fighting against terrorist forces. There are 20% Kurdish people already living in Turkey in peace. They are also against this terrorist organizations. There were lots of Kurdish Mothers, Fathers, asking for help from Turkey, claiming that those terrorists have been kidnapped their kurdish children. Kurdish people are against those terrorists. That is just what Usa wants to promote everyone for years as they do in other countries. Create a terrorist organization, support it, use it. And also, as always as hypocrite, Usa said no nato country should have Russian defence, but Greece has lots of S-300. So.
@@Spiderhip Bullshit. NATO said 2016 no country should buy russian weapons ANYMORE. Greece has S300 sind 1998! Turkey buyed S400 in 2018. S400 is totally different!! Kurds in Syria are not all terrorists. Turkey is killing children in syria.
@@Spiderhip wrong. Greece bought S300 in 1998. Turkey bought S400 in 2018 - long time after NATO said - no weapons from russia ANYMORE. S400 is critical system because of F35. This is is the real reason.
Honestly I respect Turkey for this. I also like the twin engines. Personally I like US allies having a domestic military industry. It makes meeting the GDP requirement for NATO to stay in country and help build domestic capabilities instead of losing money overseas.
@@cenk714 Turkey is a part of NATO. The US and Turkey are factually allies. The US has missile bases in Turkey. Turkey assisted the US in the Afghan War. The two countries have been allies for a long time now. Just because you may not personally like America doesn't change the facts. When was the last time Turkey actually WASN'T an ally to the US? World War 1, when you guys were the Ottoman Empire?
@@MecawallaceTürklerin 100/98 natoyu istemiyor nato ülkemize sadece silah satıyor ve gelişmemizi engelliyordu gerektiğindede silah vermiyordu geç kalsakta farkına vardılar asya silah ve gelişme bakımından avrupa abd den daha faydalı bizim için emin ol
Being part of the middle east, being self-sufficient is a very smart idea for Turkey. Especially in situations where foreign support shifts constantly.
@@DreweTube It is. It's west Asia, which most people call middle east. It's only half Europe because it borders Europe and is heavily influenced by it.
@@DanDaFreakinManActually not just borders bro, Istanbul is half Asian half Europe city literally when you look at as continent (+ 3 other more cities with Istanbul) but I agree Turkey's location is called Middle East. Plus: if you ever visit Istanbul, you can even feel the difference between Asia and Europe side with like half hour drive or ferry, its a weird feeling in a good way😅
Yeah, sure. As if Iran, Iraq or Syria are about to invade Turkey anytime now! Turkey needs to be self-sufficient in earthquake resistant homes right now, but dreams of useless airplanes against imaginary enemies. Unless if they plan to invade Israel, something that shall give a good laugh to everybody...
Bu yazıyı okuyunca gülmeden geçemedim ! Su 57 KAAN ‘nın rakibi olması imkansız, esas Komedi KAAN tam olarak 5 sene sonra hazır olduğunda , F22 nin durumu ne olacak ? çünkü Dünya genelinde hiç bir yerde yetkinliğini kanıtlayamamış şişirilmiş bir balondan ibaret sadece efsane birde eski Teknoloji ile üretilmiş bir Uçak , ama KAAN son derece son Teknolojiye sahip bir Savaşçı olarak ortaya çıktığında gerçek anlamda bir Türk Lokumu ( Türkis delight ) işte o zaman kimin daha iyi bir savaşçı olduğunu göreceğiz yaşayacağız. Sonucu ben size şimdiden söyleyeyim Tabiki KAAN !
Fighter contracts create communities. It's pretty awesome to be a kid during an aerospace boom. My Dad and all His Friends were in aerospace. They'd talk about the Space Shuttle project, fighter planes, missiles, all stuff a kid could sit and listen to (trying to understand the conversations).
People says it looks like f22. Actually all stealth jets look like each other. Because of geometric restrictions. Most stealth design is LAMBDA design but lambda desing hasn't got vertical stabilizators which make it less maneveurable. Second most stealth design is diamond design. Stealth fighter jets uses cropped diamond design with vertical stabilizators for better maneuverability.
Let's clarify one point: Türkiye initially sought to purchase a US air defense system, but its request was denied. Subsequently, Türkiye explored other options and eventually procured a system from Russia. It appears that the US used what many perceive as a questionable justification to remove Türkiye from the F-35 program.
This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems.
The Americans offered the Patriots, the Turks wanted the blueprints in order to produce their own Patriots, the Americans refused, and the Turks bought the S-400 which they cannot use right now or else they won't even get F-16's, and they got kicked out of the F-35's too. Smart move! Does your Sultan also manage the Turkish economy that well? The hell he does!!!
If its the Van im thinking of, the one thats based on the Fiat Doblo platform, im sorry but they're not built in Istanbul but built in the Fiat factory located in Bursa Turkey. Bursa is one of the main industrial cities of Turkey especially specializing in the Automotive industry.
@@tolgahk84 that's Tofas Factory, not Fiat factory. Tofas is perma engineering integrator for R&D's of Fiat + Koc Group is share holder for Stellantis. Learn your lesson before speaking.
@@engizkavak2082 It might be the Tofaş factory BUT many Fiats are built in the Bursa factory along side a few other models for Citroen and Opel/Vauxhall. Tofaş was originally a joint venture between Koç Holdings and Fiat. By the way Stellantis is the new name of a merger between the Italian-USA companies Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles and the French PSA Group who owned Peugeot and Citroen so Tofaş is still technically partly owned by Fiat although under a different name. So before talking to me like a dumbass go do some research of your own of the origins of certain companies before dribbling shit you don't know about
Not to forget Turkey turn to the King of UAV's.The ANKA 3 and the Kızılelma has jet engines, low radar crossections and an AI. They will go to on a mission with the pilot of the KAAN together which turn the KAAN to an almost 6th Gen fighter. Maybe the term Gen 5.5 is much more accurate.
That is being... very generous. All of that stuff is the definition of a 5th-gen fighter, we have yet to see anyone really develop a 6th-gen jet. And if someone does, it will either be the Tempest program, the US, or China. Türkie's aerospace industry is good, and growing fast, but it's still very far from 6th gen.
@@atomf9143 As a Turk I do agree with you. We may be developing 5th gen tech that has resembles the features of 6th gen but this aircraft will take a long time to enter service. And after that it will take even longer to get a 6th gen project, we got a long way to go just like our allies. I also believe that the Tempest program will probably be the first to be finished as it seems to be the most promising project currently
The fact that you live in France does not make you a French man given the fact the big number of muslims immigrants there. The real French People are keepers of the famous anthropocentric Greco-Roman civilization and dislike any turkish propaganda and their provocations.
@@G_SachsGreco-Roman? 😂😂😂 Greek influence was lost after the Roman conquest until Byzantium. Even after that, we replaced and upgraded Rome; which became a toy under Greeks.
@@Dr-Ekmek What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity. Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks. 😆
@@Dr-Ekmek What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity. Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks. 😆
What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity. Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks.
as a malaysia we proud of you brotherrrr ,salamm from malaysiaaaaa for turkiyee ,huraaaaaaaaa turkiyee is anmazing half europe asia ,making they aircraft is the good idea cause only turkiye in islam country can do it as a development islam country and rich culture and good relation with east adn west world and nato member ,turkiye have they ability to build anything like weapon vehichle combat and any else even malaysia my counbtry also use turkiye product of military
@@JohnJaneson2449 yes, because the rice is filled with ingredients that make me taste like coconut milk and banana leaves and then doapdandan with round egg anchovies and spicy tamarind sauce which is very tempting if you think about it and can be eaten with chicken dishes
Bayraktar was a young guy when he finished his education in MIT came to turkey and said to president "give me 20 years and turkey will be one of the top drone countries in the world"
You are completely wrong, Bayraktar’s father was rich, he is not so smart, he finished the private schools with his Fathers money. Drones was an already decision of Turkish Council to develop drones before president Erdogan. Havelsan Aselsan example they did Anka, Poyraz, Aksungur models already. But Bayraktar was promoted only by Erdogan’s disgusting propaganda, because he got married to his daughter and now they found another way of getting rich with this propaganda. Havelsan Aselsan Tusas, these units were established in 80s and 90s they started to develop drones as well.
You must Know that in USA, his Supervising Professor was a brilliant Greek? We Greeks still give Knowledge for free without hesitation even to our enemies.
@@sabahattinbey In the case of UAV manufacturing, Greece had done pioneering work 20 years well before Turkey did. The initial State Airplanes Factory and later The Hellenic Aerospace Industry in cooperation with the Research Center of Hellenic Airforce designed, developed and manufactured the UAV Pegasus I back in 1982 (!) for Surveillance and Information Collection operated by a special UAV Unit of HAF. The present model Pegasus II is an advanced model in all aspects and. introduced in 2005. After the turkish deep state declared her expansionistic and revisionistic hostile policy against Greek Lands and Sea Rights with their "ala Turka interpratation" of International Law of the Seas (UNCLOS) the Greek Private and Public Defence Industry motivated and created and create every day new unique tecnological and scientific products for operations in Air, Land, Sea and UnderSea dimensions.
@@G_Sachs Yes, you built this drone. But are you sure it was 20 years before Turkey? Turkey used its first UAV in 1989. Then, in 1990, it launched the domestic UAV-X1-Shahid project. I would also like to mention that Turkey built its first airplane in 1924. VECI K-VI
This is block 0 a prototype. TAI is working on 2 more prototypes for conducting various tests. Kaan won't be a 5th gen jet right off the bat. It will be 4.5th gen to start with when Block 10 comes out sometime in 2028 and eventually, it will evolve into 5th gen in 2030. The most important thing is the indigenous jet engine that is being developed at the moment.
@@zb2192 TEI developed smaller sized jet engines. For example, TF 6000 turbofan, TS 1400 turboshaft. They gained experience to make something bigger. TEI produces many engine parts for General Electric. I think they can make an engine for Kaan.
Jet engines take years to develop, in the interim, Turkey should buy some Russian engines, the IZDELIYE 30 is a brand new Russian engine that was developed for the heavy su--57 and would give the lighter Kaan a huge speed advantage over most opponents. Of course it may not fit the Kaan or Russia may not wish to sell, however they are already selling the s--400 to Turkey, so they may sell jet engines.
I'm willing to bet that this jet has more potential than the J-20 at least, and the Felon isn't really that stealthy, from what I've heard. The KAAN looks like an F-35 and F-22 jumped into bed together and this was the result.
I doubt it. Although I'm sure they were flaunt it like it is on par with the F 35. In fact I think they already have. I'm glad we didn't sell systems to them. Turkeys only cares for Turkey, and will make deals with your enemy. They care not about anything unless it effects them, and anytime they get any leverage they use it. I have no doubts they'd give F 35 secrets to Russia in exchange for something.
"supposed". China is same as Russia. They boast much. Neither china nor russia have 5th gen fighter. Lot's of countries nowadays can make an airframe and slap some engine and TFT display into it. Devil is in the detail. Radar range, weapons range, connectivity, real stealth with actual load, etc. Either it has it all or it's just another expensive dog fight toy.
@@selimbakirhan I try to open your eyes to understand that: 1. USA F-35 Advanced Electronics and Aviation and Engines and Sensors is not at all comparable with KAAN that is only an Erdogan's peopagandistic toy, a tin skeleton with F-16 engine. 2. That USA Had not objection to sell Patriot Systems to Turkey as did in all other allies countries including Greece. But the clever (read dull) Turkey wanted to aquire the know-how and the bluprints of Patriot System that is of course PROPERTY of the original manufacturer that spend thousands manhours in basic and applied Reserch and Development to make such a diamond. Nobody other Ally of USA was so audacious to ask such unspeakable request. Russia also did not give its know-how of S-400 to the clever anatolian bargains...
It is tragic that after 20 plus years of Erdogans leadership Turkish people and all Turkish parties have been brain-washed with neo-ottoman imperialistic dreams and are so away from the Western Greco-Roman Civilization and Antrhopocentric Values. It is obvious that Turkey with such an attitude will not enter in our European Union of Democratic Countries and soon or later leave NATO Alliance going fully to Asian authoritarian States. It is also clear that NATO after that will gain control of East Thrace and the Straits and the Independent Kurdistan will be a reality in Kurdish occupied now lands.
I usually like to joke around in the internet, but Turkey, and the surrounding regions are different. >Consider the destructive stupidity of the US and Russia's actions in Ukraine. There is a power vacuum, and who will fill the void? Maybe Turkey? THAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN THE COMMUNIST CHINESE!!! And the CCP are the ones planning to take over the region... Sad IMHO
With Russia steadily antagonizing their former republics and partners, new markets for Turkish defence systems can open up in the Central Asian republics and in Georgia. Central Asia has already established very friendly relationships with Turkey due to the common Turkic historic and cultural heritage. They have already formed an Organization of Turkic States, with even Hungary as an observer state. With Turkey becoming a major weapon producer, their influence over the other Turkic states will only grow.
Back in the 90's I visited many Turkish companies in the arms business. One was making AIM-9 Sidewinder missile parts which were shipped to the US for incorporation in production there. Nice productions line, high attention to quality processes and a lot of pride. One thing I can assure you about Turks: They are get up and get going people. 12 hour work days all year long are considered normal regardless of "rank" in the co.
You are describing the great civilized western world some decades ago. Nowadays, you guys brought yourselves in to a situation discussing whether a man can be a woman. Best wishes for you to wake up from a Turk. Peace
We work even on weekends, this is called overtime, we are given extra money, we cannot object if the boss says you will have to work overtime, we have a maximum of two weeks of leave a year, we use it one week in winter and one week in summer, we are a nation accustomed to working.
@@AlanTheBeast100 I did not choose the government, it has existed since I was born, in all the choices I have made, the government never falls, I have to work instead of crying to live
Some "allies of Türkiye" need to understand that Türkish nation is not such kind of a nation which you can make it bend the knee by imnposing sanctions or embargos. Türkiye's official motto is "peace at home, peace in the world" but this doesn't mean Türkiye would sit and watch when faced aggressions or their interets were threatened.
I have a house but my neighbor has found a treasure in his yard. So I as a real Turk will not stay without action and I will invent a story that his yard is in essence mine and if he wants peace we must share at least kazan-kazan his treasure... I don't recognize his titles because our neighborhood according to my interpretation is a special unique case!... This is my revisionistic and expansionistic policy but it is my interest after all!... Of course I have the motto "peace in my house" and "peace in my neighborhood". But We will not have peace if my neighbor does not accept to share his treasures. After all I have 10 children to feed while my neighbor only 2... Why don't you understand my Right to explain the International Law according to my interests?
They are developing their own stealth plane because Turkey have been snubbed by the USA from buying the F-35. It’s in the video. The Turks are in NATO. But they buy Russian stuff too. This didn’t instill confidence in the USA so they weren’t allowed to buy the F-35. The U.S. didn’t want to fall in a situation like they did with the F-14 tomcat. They sold a bunch to Iran when they were a “democracy “. Then Iran returned to the stone ages with their Ayatollah government. So we stopped using the Tomcat.
@@marble25 Only 2 countries on earth besides the US are not subject to having to receive a code to fly their lightning 2s. Britain and Israel. Everyone else requires a code from the US or Lockheed to fly it. And I wouldn't be surprised if it could be cut off mid-flight.
This looks like a case of Turkey doing what's best for Turkey. Good for them. Every country that can afford it should seek self-sufficiency when it comes to energy production, water & food supply, and self-defense.
Turkey has not serious Energy sources and this is the major problem of them. They try to solve it by booling and intruding illegaly without success to the EEZ waters of Democracy of Cyprus or Greece. Greek pilots of F-16 Vipers and Rafales, the Greek Navy ships and the silent killers of the deep the greek undetectable submarines U-214, the greek Leopards 2HEL plus the greek attack Appache Hellicopters and Kiowa wait for the turkish "mistake". Greek Army is capable for destroying the dreams of turkish militarism about "blue homeland" and crashing the "prestige" of the "second strongest army of NATO" who have gain "expirience" fighting only with weak Syrians or Libyan or Kurds guerillas and african tribes while the mean IQ index of a mean turkish soldier is only the one third of a mean greek soldier not to mention the Greek Special Forces and Greek SEALS units (OYK) the nightmare of any would-be intruder.
Turkey has not serious Energy sources and this is the major problem of them. They try to solve it by booling and intruding illegaly without success to the EEZ waters of Democracy of Cyprus or Greece. Greek pilots of F-16 Vipers and Rafales, the Greek Navy ships and the silent killers of the deep the greek undetectable submarines U-214, the greek Leopards 2HEL plus the greek attack Appache Hellicopters and Kiowa wait for the turkish "mistake". Greek Army is capable for destroying the dreams of turkish militarism about "blue homeland" and crashing the "prestige" of the "second strongest army of NATO" who have gain "expirience" fighting only with weak Syrians or Libyan or Kurds guerillas and african tribes while the mean IQ index of a mean turkish soldier is only the one third of a mean greek soldier not to mention the Greek Special Forces and Greek SEALS units (OYK) the nightmare of any would-be intruder.
To those people who call KAAN a "Knock off F-22" or "Basically a copy-n-paste", copying a plane is not as easy as y'all think. To fully copy a plane, you need to have the same computer systems, same Hud, same Engines etc. Basically KAAN needed every technology of the F-22 to be an F-22 copy, so right now it is far away from being a ripoff.
@@alican903 actually you do. There are plenty of designs, and it's especially apparent with it's backwing designs. I mean KAAN is clearly just a copy and there's no surprise there and nothing to really be ashamed of. It's just the way it is and no other ways it could have been done. Turkey has no experience in producing those planes. When you have no experience in building fighter jet planes, you have to start from something, your only option is to copy.
Turkiye is the smallest country with a 5th gen fighter entirely made domestically? China J20 & FC31 = 1420 million USA f22 & F35 = 335 million people Russia su-57 = 145 million people Turkiye TAI TF Kaan = 85 million people Even Japan and India are yet to bring their 5th gen fighters to fruition. Well done Turkiye 👏
7:16 Turkey asked for American defense missiles and the US never responded positively. All the NATO allies’ doors were closed in front of Turkey even if they have genuine issues and have to defend themselves against Iran militias, Kurdish Terrorists, Armenia and others. Then, Turkey had either Russian or Chinese missiles options and they went for the Russian option as there are NATO countries already using them today (Greece and few European East block countries). The fun part is that they have received a very agressive response from their western NATO “allies”. It’s like we are not selling you the missiles, you can’t buy them from our enemies (even if we allow some of our allies to do it) and also, you can’t manufacture them inland. You need to stay easily accessible to your enemies. With its prominent NATO “allies”, Turkey will never lack enemies.
The US responded positively, but Turkey didn't just want the Patriots, they also wanted the blueprints for building Patriots on their own. Other NATO countries have the S-300 variant, not the S-400 variant which was designed to track the F-35's.
@@Sikader as Turkey is already trusted by the USA to build the whole F16 (except the engine and few parts). Why the US didn’t want them to be able to build parts of the Patriot home. They didn’t ask the whole patriot system as none is stupid enough to do that….also, the speed of the deployment of the patriot system has always followed the mood of those in Washington and other capitals, not at all factoring the urgent needs to protect Turkish civilians in their southern borders. So, as any leader would do, it’s completely justifiably that Turkish leaders tried to go the path of local manufacturing of air defense systems. On the S-400, that was a desperation moved from Turkey and they have provided all the guarantees that the US could have asked for. Knowing that the S-400 is only rumored to have F35 tracking which is very unlikely as the tech in it is a bit old. Also, Russia didn’t sell S-300 AFAIK and the S-300 weren’t going to fill the need. In short, a deeply rooted mistrust from US and European allies towards Turkey has been very visible for everyone to see. Not unexpected but sad given all the sacrifices that Turkey has done for the allies especially in the Cold War.
@@Sikader the US was already mad at turkey and wanted to kicked them out of the 5th gen program but needed a reason for it, it threatened them many time before they finally did it for many reason eventually forcing them to buy other air system to get a reason to kick them. because working in 5th gen and buying s400 which is design to beat 5th gen is a security risk.
Maybe if Turkey apologized for the Armenian genocide and stopped trying to use their weapons to kill Kurdish civilians in order countries and stopped trying to displace Kurds in their own country the civilized world would be more willing to cooperate with them
Former US President Donald Trump announced that the Terrorist Organization ISIS was founded by former US President Obama. Using ISIS as an excuse in Syria and Iraq, the USA is arming the PKK/PYD terrorist organization in Syria under the so-called "Fight against ISIS Terrorism". Would a real State cooperate with a Terrorist organization? Aren't Türkiye and the USA both allies in NATO? WHAT KIND OF ALLYMENT UNDERSTANDING IS THE USA'S aid to the PKK/PYD terrorist organization, which carries out separatist activities against Türkiye?
This is the whole summary of the s400 crisis. The Americans first tried to sell the old versions at a very high price, then when the s400 issue came up, this time Turkey asked for technology transfer, which was rejected, which I think was stupid. Today the US gives technology transfer to Israel and Korea, if Turkey had given some technology transfer for patriots, this would not have happened.
It was by design. Congress had a report in front of them at that point by Intelligence community that claimed strengthening Turkish defensive capabilities would harm US' ability to guide policy in Iraq and Syria. By limiting what Turkey could produce and deploy, the intent was to keep absolute control of Syrian-Iraqi Kurdish corridor and first operational intelligence on any PKK YPG assets ( as those are proven to be supported by US High command) Result is that it backfired spectacularly. While the buying of S-400s were expected, the end result of kicking Turkey out of F-35 program backfired. For one thing, the F-35 parts produced in Turkey had to be rebranded and reproduced somewhere else. Multiple US based companies offered to pick up the slack, but both the cost increase and lack of manpower in domestic US disallowed that. So it shifted to netherlands. That caused a big delay in F-35 scheduling. But that's small potatoes, logistics stuff. What really backfired was what happened next. That event triggered the national defense initiative response, which Erdogan did use to enrich his own son in law, but that aside, it effectively caused Turkey to quickly prototype and deploy UAVs. And set aside a lot more funding for military research. So then the military attack helicopters started being replaced from American cobras to Turkish made ones. That process is underway. Large parts of missile infrastructure Task went over in this video is also a result of that. Multiple missilies covering more verticals than standard NATO ammunition were made. As Dutch made arms are generally more expensive, and US arms are tied to Congress approval, guess what happened? All the 3rd world nations looking for cheaper alternatives started buying from Turkish military industrial complex. This all happened in last 10 years, give or take. S-400 crisis wasnt the source of it, but a big catalyst. Essentially, the big reason why Turkey right now has a dominating position in UAV market or project some soft power over allies even US cannot properly control is because Congress was stupid enough to listen to CIA. Edit: Oh, and needless to say, the dream of controlling Syrian-IRaqi kurdish corridor blew up in US' face. Syrian govt didnt fall, so Russia moved in. Northern Iraqis saw US support was worth nearly nothing. ISIS made several attempts at a resurgence and while coalition did beat them back down, they never went away. And Israel just shook the leash of US control and now running rampant. US soft power completely crumbled away thx to combined efforts from the last 4 administrations.
I don't want to bother you, but there is an error. The only country that gave us air defense technology is Russia. You said The United States hand over technology to SK, but that's not true. contrary. As Korean technology began to surpass that of the United States, Israel and the United States suddenly began to visit, asking for “technology exchange.” As revealed in several orders, SK Technology has surpassed the United States. The United States never provides air defense system technology to its allies (Israel may be an exception). South Korea developed an air defense system together with Russia. In Russia it is called S-350. Korea also contributed to the development of Russia's S-400. In any case, SK's air defense system was initially 100% based on Russian technology, but as the United States and Israel cooperated in technology at the request of the United States and Israel, it is now a mixture of technologies from several countries. In any case, the roots of our technology lie in Russia, and we will not forget Russia’s gratitude. As I write, America's contradictions become more and more evident. The U.S. policy of oppressing countries that do not depend on others with the will for independent defense is a big mistake. I respect the strong will of the Turkish people. We have been oppressed so much by the United States that you can imagine how difficult it must be for the Turks. Even if we develop even old missiles, we face all kinds of threats, intimidation, boycotts, pressure, import and export bans, etc. We too have experienced this over the past 50 years. ... ....
Convergent design. There's only so many designs layouts that balance stealth, aerodynamics, and weapon/fuel carrying capabilities. Same thing why the Boeing X-37 is a mini Space Shuttle, or why the majority of modern airliners look similar.
Reason 1: The F-22 is already available, it can be seen with the human eyes and an aviation engineer can prolly guesstimate the things in the making. Reason 2: There are some guesstimation already available on the internet, they might not be 100% declassified but their pretty well accepted by the general audience. Reason 3: Physics is the natural enemy of creativity.
For all those who says it's a copy, if it's that easy why don't you make a copy? Just try to copy a simple pen, you'll understand how difficult that is.
One think to keep in mind, Russia has S400 in Syria and US and Israeli F35 flying in Syria every day. Therefore Russian S400 already has the F35 profile. Also Russa has air base and air defense radars in Syria and they control a part of the airspace. Also India has S400 and US is partnering F16 production in India. Greece has S300 placed in Gritte Island and US opened a navy base in that island also US Aircraft Carriers operate from that island.
fun fact 2000 : Türkiye was prevented from purchasing drones from the United States, and was trying to purchase drones from Israel that were not controlled by Türkiye. 2023 : Türkiye is the world leader in drone exports the story is not over yet
Honestly im glad they developed a decent aircraft. I like seeing other NATO countries make significant advancements in their hardware. We can't have every country rely on American airpower or we will fall behind
Americans are not so smart in Science and Technology as are Turks. Americans are light years behind the Turkey's in Economy. Every Turkish University is better in Research than MIT or Harvard or Yale or Standford or CalTech etc. The American Industrial Manufacturers are yet in the 18th Century in relation to Turkey's modern factories of 21th Century. Americans don't know the unique recipes of the Erdogan's Wife given by TV to poor Turks about how to make kiofte dishes without real meat... The American currency the Dollar is not so valuable as 1 Turkish Lira. Imagine that there are many ways to use a note of 1 turkish lira when you are in countryside!...
Considering the lack of resources, what Turkey was able to achieve in aerial warfare by itself is no small feat. Many superpowers are already behind them in drone technology even after having access to vast resources.
I don't need "both sides" on the F35 dispute. I have already heard enough of the American side. In fact, I have only been hearing American side for all previous years. Then I learned that Turkey decided to acquire S400 after Pentagon declined to sell "Patriots".
You say half the truth. USA did not refuse to sell Patriot missile to Turkey. But clever Turkey wanted to take free of charge the industrial know-how and blueprints of the weapon which is unacceptable for the Owner USA of the Science and Technology behind this artifact.
@@dulat USA does not need such double-faced "ally" that support Russia expansionism, that creates obstacles to new NATO members, that supported Islamic terrorism of barbaric ISIS, that makes booling to Greece and Cyprus and provokes Israel by supporting terrorism of Hamas and Hezbollah etc etc
Who really believes that KAAN is a 5th generation stealth fighter comparable to American or European diamonds as the F-35 or F-22 or Rafale or Eurofighter or even F-16 Viper? Nobody but only ignorant people who like the nationalistic dreams served to them by similar turkish propaganda service! Yes it is a plane "5th generation" ala turka definition...
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US refused to give F35s to Turkiye, and Turkeys had a contribution in manufacturing F35s, but USA did not mind giving Israel F35s even though Israel never contribution in building the F35s, so Congratulations to Turkiye you got your own now so sod the Americans they have no gratitude. Keep it up Turkiye.
Boo fucking hoo you got kicked off a secret program after literally proving your fraternizing with the psychotic enemy who is literally the reason the defense org your part of is created to defend against!
Aslında Amerika'ya ve katkısı olan bir kaç Avrupa ülkelerine teşekkür etmek istiyorum. Onlar sayesinde teknolojilerimiz her geçen gün gelişiyor. Türkiye tersine mühendisliği en iyi yapan ülkelerden birisidir. USA bize hava savunma sistemi vermedi. Rusya'dan almak zorunda kaldık. Sonrasında kendi hava savunmamızı yaptık. Şuanda balistik füze üzerinde çalışıyoruz. USA bize uçak vermedi. Vermediği için kendi uçağımızı yapmak durumunda kaldık. Silah ambargosu uygulandı. Kendi silahlarımızı yapmaya başladık. Kanada bize drone larda kullanmak için kamera sistemini vermedi ve satış ambargosu uyguladı. Şuanda kendi kamera sistemlerimizi üretmeyi başardık. Avusturya'dan aldığımız drone motorlarına Ermenistan savaşında kullanıyoruz diye ambargo uyguladılar. Şimdi kendi motorlarımızı üretmeyi başardık. "Kötü komşu insanı mal sahibi eder" diye bir söz var. Ayrıca Amerika'nın bizim topraklarımızın güneyinde desteklediği PKK/YPG terör örgütü sayesinde hem askeri olarak daima savaşa hazır ve mücadele etmek zorunda kalan güçlü bir ordu olmayı başardık. Hem de ürettiğimiz teknolojileri bu teröristler üzerinde deneyerek tecrübe edindik. Teşekkürler Amerika!
Fantastic and wonderful and amazing and superb report, your report is very detailed and very comprehensive, congratulations for the Turkish government and engineers achievements
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From being Ottoman Empire one of the most feared empire to becoming a NATO lap dog or a US base. Turkey has S-400 Russia said they are not selling those only S-300 were available for purchase. Patriot System lacks distance, it is extremely expensive to operate & maintain, that's why Turks went for Russian systems.
Turkish 5th Gen fighter jet Spec:
- 360 degree Gan (Gallium Nitride) Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar
- Infrared search and track (IRST)
- 360 degree Electronic warfare suite (EW)
- Electro Optical targeting system (EOTS)
- Directional Infrared Counter Measures (DIRCM)
- Manned-Unmanned Teaming (MUM-T)
- TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display (HMD)
1.8 mach cruise speed
2.5 mach max speed
Internet weapon bay
55.000 feet operational altitude
BVR Air2Air missiles
WVR Air2air missiles
Cruise missiles
Anti-Ship missiles
Air launched ballistic missiles
Precision guided rockets
Anti-radiation missile
Kamikaze (Loitering) drones
TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display (HMD)
Color screen and digital night vision technologies will be used for the first time in the system, which was developed as binocular (two optical channels) and viewfinder reflective. In this way, color-specific groupings (friend, foe, etc.) can be made in the symbology information.
A hybrid (optical-inertial) system is designed as a head tracking system. The inner helmet will be specially produced for the pilot in terms of both comfort of use and proper viewing. For this, the head structure of the pilot will be scanned and the inner helmet will be processed according to the data generated after the scan. The visor will also be personalized according to the pilot in terms of oxygen mask and face form compatibility.
Headphones will have active noise suppression (ANR-Active Noise Reduction) technology, and the pilot's awareness will be increased by transferring the 3D sound from the aircraft's internal speech system in stereo. The image obtained by using high-precision line of sight information from the 360-degree image created by the electro-optical systems on the aircraft will be projected onto the viewfinder and will provide a sense of use as if the aircraft does not have a fuselage.
ASELSAN's 3D Audio Technology is based on HRTF (Human Related Transfer Function). 3D Audio is created spatially based on the location information of the warning and the head movements of the pilot. So the sound is transmitted as if it is coming from above, below, right or left.
Thanks to 3D Audio technology, the pilot's environmental awareness increases, response time and workload decrease.
Radio separation is created using 3D Audio. Communication channels are transmitted to the pilot from different angles so that the pilot can easily distinguish between channels.
3D Audio Features
• Real-Time Operation
• Radio Separation
• Directional Warning
• Global Positioning
• Reduced Response Time
• Reduced Workload
• Increased Environmental Awareness
Even the F35/F22 does NOT have these features combined
The real reason why Turkey bought S400 is because NATO allies closed the Patriots in Turkey. In the same year, ISIS threatened to launch missiles at Turkey
Can you make a video on the Israeli lavi jet that the U.S stoped development of since it would completely destroy the sales of the f16 since it was the best on out of them?
As a Kurd, I feel the responsibility to fix one thing in your video, our country which is Türkiye is not in war with the Kurds. We are fighting with the terrorists called ypg-pkk. It doesn't matter that America distinguishes between those two, but we know and they internally know that these are the same terrorist organization. They are active in different countries though it doesn't change anything.
Both are CIA proxies (fighting against another proxy which is ISIS, scripting a story creating both the protagonist and the antagonist alinging with their (CIA) interests). I’m a Turk you’re a Kurd doesn’t matter, you’re a MAN. Bless your soul!
you are not kurdish
@@RENASK I didn't know I had to convince you. Fuck off
Not every kurd has to be stalinist like the pkk.
Knowing how Turkish got as cheap workers got techot by espionage stolen technology used I know this from mouth of turk person himser who has own contact worked in Germany do almost all major industrial mfg activities stolen all technology copied in turkey even ship yards
Hello. You used the phrase "Kurdish Forces" in the content. This is very wrong and misleading information. Turkish armed forces only fight against "PKK and YPG" terrorists. Millions of Turkish citizens of "Kurdish" origin in my country. We have thousands of citizens of "Kurdish" origin in the Turkish army. Turkish Armed Forces are fighting against Terrorists to whom the US government has provided thousands of trucks of weapons and training.
Ağzına sağlık, ben de aynısını yazacaktım)
cansın abi
thank you for making the clarification!
Turkey is should not even be in NATO they ally with Hamas and Isis.
He is %100 right.!
Congrats Turkiye Air Force from Korea.
I wish we did it together. I wish you wouldn't rush. They deliberately made your plane small. Even if you convert it to the 5th generation, it will remain weak in terms of weapons - avionics - electronic warfare - artificial intelligence and range. Our aircraft has the largest dimensions among the 5th generation aircraft and there is a clear way for it to be converted into the 6th generation. I'd like to say it's not too late yet, but I can't say that because I know you've spent a lot of money and your people's expectations are high. Perhaps you may still choose to maintain 1 or 2 fleets. and thanks
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@@onurcan8434 Turkiye is self sufficent in fighter jet unlike Korea
@@Tfded wrong.
We Turkish people have an idiom regarding this topic, “Bad landlord makes you buy a home”
Actually we turks say:
Bad neighbour makes you house owner.😊
Turkish idioms are next level. The one about not being to open an umbrella once its shoved up the butt is the best.
@@cjohnson3836 how tf you know that... 💀💀
That's a great idiom
@@cjohnson3836 another one for u )) neither my ayran is spilled nor my ass is fucked .. ( ayran is a local drink )))
For everyone who doesn’t know Turkish engineers helped design and had key roles in many 5th gen programs here in the USA. F135 engine for the f35 and the F119 engine for the F22. I worked with Turkish engineers daily on the engine line as I’m a jet engine mechanic on both of those platforms. I remember the day they were no longer working with us and out of the program but that’s after 10 or 15 years. I 1000% know they can build a good jet. Because they helped build ours.
A very valuable contribution to the discussion.
Being in the room does not mean you helped
@@Dr_Dirk_Diggler maybe that's why you can only be in RUclips chat rooms
@@Dr_Dirk_Diggler maybe that's why you are only in RUclips chat rooms
It takes a whole ecosystem to produce an advanced fighter.
I hope one day the world hear my heart words about turkey , im a history enthusiast and i fell in love with the history of turkey , this nations elites have always been on the side of peasants of the world and endured war and losses to maintain it, meanwhile they didnt need it
Of course
We feel what you mean
So they joined NATO and Hitler to help the peasants of the world , makes sense . NO, Turkey wants Ottoman Empire lands back , simple as that within reasonable boundaries . .
We Turks call this 'order in the world' policy 🇹🇷♥️♥️. Justice is the basis of property.
bs the ottoman empire was as bad or worse than any european power
US : Since you brought some S400s, we ain't selling you F35s
Turkey : Fine, I'll do it myself.
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This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems. KAAN is as a child game compared to F-35 superior Electronics, Avionics and Sensors.
Turkey: "We have stealth fighters at home."
We'll see if they aren't just movie-grade props soon enough.
@@Blodhelmi sggest you to little search about turkish weapons and defence products about how many times they tried in real war and how effective they are.
@@Blodhelmf-22 raptor never flew perfectly, still doesn’t. The 1st start was a disaster. KAAN‘s first flight ever was successful. Just shut up and accept it.
Mostly people dont know That Turkey was working by F35 and F22 Jet engine. They are able to build self jet engine for Kaan fighter jet and could be not only 5. Generation could be 5.5 generation and 6. Generation fighter jet.
That is the realty that world dont know about it
They showed allready thems power and independent.
Be proud Turkey.
You have to wake up from turkish propaganda myths, when you go to buy in a supermarket and realize that genteel poverty is not enough to feed your famiy.
Can it fly😂or just a platform🤣
@@p.inspiratesuckstiadakmalu7534tfx Kann already had a flight test
It flew 😘
@@p.inspiratesuckstiadakmalu7534 gül sen gül
Turkish people are great people, honest, and when say they mean it. I have many Turkish friend.
Greetings from Turkey. You are always wellcome my friend. The people who shout antiTurkish slogans are generally the ones who never visits Turkey or who has political bias against Turkey. It is nice to see we still have friends out there.
Thank you very much ❤
American folks also great and honest. Turkish people has no problem wtih Real Americans.
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Thank you Kenny, greetings from Ankara
If one thing being a military history nerd has taught me is NEVER underestimate the Turks
Eh, except in WW1?
But, I loved reading about Ottoman conquest of middle east. That was awesome military campaign.
@@JohnJaneson2449in ww1 and after they still stomped on allies.
@@JohnJaneson2449 WW1 was finished in 1922 for us. We had never accepted the peace treaty of Sevres, on the contrary Germany's treaty of versailles. After the ceasefire of mondros. We organized a war against Britain France Italy and Greeks. And we gained our independence under the rule of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. So we cannot consider Turkey as a "sure loser" of WW1
@@JohnJaneson2449türkler ww1 de yenilmedi arkadaşım. Okursan anlarsın. Bize ilkokulda öğretilen ve hepimizin hafızalarına kazınan şey şudur ; “almanlar kaybettiği için biz de kaybetti sayıldık.”
You lost most of your lands, being relegated only to Asia minor and trace, you are the losers@@emretanriber490
Honestly being self sufficient in defense just seems like extremely basic "defense 101" stuff to me even if your in a military alliance. So i can't blame them for wanting the ability to defend themselves on their own.
Finally tanks man finally same won understand it
Being self sufficient is nice in theory, but unlikely to be useful in a major war. Capability on day one combined with stockpiles of material should be the target.
If you aren't part of an alliance yeah for sure but being part of NATO
you also have to consider the difficulties of incorporating the tech
into joint exercises and actual combat..
@@osric1730 The long term wars are over represented in people's minds. Most wars are completed rapidly because the defender did not prepare. Belgium & Korea before WW2 invasions for example. Also small nations will not be able to safeguard infrastructure in advanced warfare. Without a significant fighter advantage to push back cruise missile launch platforms. Depth needed underground to protect a facility are cost prohibitive for production. The USA has made massive contributions to Ukraine as well as many other issues. The EU should be the more involved.
@@bobdillon1138 fuck nato
You forgot to mention :
- Türkiye was also building the main body frame of the F35.
- It all started because the US refused to sell the Patriot system, even after years of negotiations. So Türkiye had to buy Russian equipment.
- Greece, which is also part of NATO, has bought Russian defense systems, but the US didn't bother. It was clearly targeting Türkiye to not let them have an effective defense system.
the greeks have patriots
@@ale3hs sorun aten yunan hükümeti. adaları silahlandırıyor hükümetiniz. abd den alabileceğimiz patriotlar sadece türkler için konuşlandırılan bu silahlara karşı angaje olamayacak nitelikte. çünkü nato üyesisiniz. ama yunanistanla bir sorun yaşasak sizin patriotlar bizim nato kodlu her silahımıza angaje olacaktır. açık ve net biçimde yunanistan abd kolonisidir. buna alet olmaktan mutluluk duyuyorsunuz. tarihi nefretleriniz yüzünden. mesele bağımsızlığınız değilmiş. mesele sizi köleleştirenlerin diniymiş! şartlı refleksleriniz sayesinde yunan ve türk silahları birbirine doğru oldukça yaklaşmaya başladı. oysa iki ülke bağımsız bir irade gösterebilseydi egeyi komple ortak toprak ilan edebilir ve bunun ekonomik getirisini kullanabilirdi. bir zamanlar bize yapılan şey şimdi yunanlara yapılıyor. sizler natonun hazır kıtasısınız artık. yakında sivilden asker alımlarının süreleri uzatılacaktır. mutlu olabilirsiniz. bu arada türkiye kendi hava savunma sistemini 600 km kadar üretmeyi başardı ve yunan ordusunun saldırı silahlarının tamamı bu menzilin içinde. bu ekonomik suikastler kaç yıl geciktirebilir ki diğer projeleri! yanyana yaşadığınız insanlarla barış tesis edeceğinize binlerce km ötedeki ülkenin kolonisi olmayı kabul etmek onurunu incitmiyorsa bu sizin bileceğiniz bir şeydir.
@@ale3hs they also have s-300 anti-air
Greece never bought the s-300 from Russia it was given to them from Cyprus ! It’s a different situation! You can’t be on both sides ! This is what Turkey does to get what they want
@@johnkardoulias8115 Did USA charge any conditions to Greece when selling Patriots? Like replacement of s300? Because USA set conditions to Turkiye..
On S-400 you've missed the point that Greece, a NATO ally, already uses S-300. Same point applies to that one as well, Russia personnel can leak radar data to Russia.
S400 is very different from the S300
@@tomriley5790The S-400 has increased range coverage but the theory of modeling a stealth aircraft from regular radar detection is a valid concern. The long wave radar can see disruptions in the air and given enough time of knowing an F-35 is flying past it's entirely possible to program the detection and tracking of it into the system. The concern of this information 'leaking' to a potential adversary is absolutely valid.
I’m guessing there’s a lot to dig into and unpack there, that sounds like an interesting avenue to investigate. I’ll look into it in the future when i cover this aircraft again
Imho that's why US waited until there was absolutely no way Russian personnel will get in contact with Greece to give the green light for F-35s. I guess the invasion of Ukraine made things more straightforward also considering Erdogan's approach.
@@Taskandpurpose he isnt telling the full story but yes. south cyprus bought it originally and turkey threatened to destroy it preemptively so they gave it to greece.
Wow... This was the far most objective review of the MMU Kaan Project I've seen on YT. You did really great job reading both nation's interests&goals and how other international experts view about the project 👌Let's see if all this work and money spent on Kaan will pay off in the future of the Turkish Air Force
Always pays to learn. If nothing else, the experience alone will lead to other endeavors.
This was really objective, the only and one thing we can criticize is that he called PKK Terrorists Kurds but we Turks dont have problem with Kurds but its really hard for them to understand that. Its funny how a western country can be ally with a Leninist, Communist, drugs selling Terrorist group..
It’s a fascinating topic , it’s always interesting to cover weapon systems that have some level of controversy to them
@@Taskandpurpose def not your avg army infantryman.. more like your well supported academy Major..
well not all americans are sarcastic, neither blinded of their own ignorance nor stupid. someone check the facts and observing. this man is good. small flaws here there but its a really objective video.
The moral of the story is, do not impose arms embargo and hidden conditions onto your customers because it will spur them to be self-reliant and eventually compete for the future customers when their product is matured and ready for export
Moral of the story, read deeper into an issue before spewing nonsense. Turkey didn’t get the patriot system for one reason and one reason only they demanded a technology transfer upon the sale of Patriot missiles. They were denied so they bought the s400 systems with Russia with the intent to buy the s500 batteries. The moment they did that they were removed from the f-35 program their 8 jets on Luke afb confiscated and sat for 2 years before we paid out the money to Turkey for the jets and took them under the United States air-force training squadron.
It wasn't unreasonable for NATO to impose restrictions on Turkey for
purchasing s400s and the potential for giving away classified info as a result
to the Russians
You can be sure that there will be much more than this. because their scrap will explode in their hands because they cannot compete with their cutting-edge competitors. They will not want to sell their equivalent technologies just because they want to use them privately.
Çok güzel bir tespit olmuş 👍bu şekilde davranmaya devam etsinler bizde yolumuza devam edelim 😂😂🇹🇷🤘
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Danke Bruderherz.
Peace and Selam from Turkiye 🇹🇷 🤘 🇹🇷
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I wish Turkey the best of luck and good will.When a country can fabricate its own airplanes it shows knowledgable people and technology that goes into an airplane.The design the power factor,the stress factor the light weight metals and alloys that make it strong and light weight and the engine for thrust and initiate lift over gravity and drag good work TURKEY.
Thanks 🙏🇹🇷
@@Kenny-yl9pc He probably is a fake account of turkish propaganda service or is an uneducated person without any knowledge of modern Science and Technology and Economics and Aviation matters
@@Kenny-yl9pc If you don't know anything about the subject you're talking about, you should avoid being so specific.
It is wrong to directly compare the F-35 with any other fighter project. In the JSF project, three different aircraft were designed, using common parts and one of which could land vertically. Besides sensor fusion, this is the most important reason why the project cost is so high and the development time is so long.
Are there definitive written requirements that make an aircraft 5th generation? If our criterion for being the 5th generation is the F-35, there is no other 5th generation fighter in the world. The K-21, which some call the 5th generation, does not have an internal weapon station and uses the F-414 engine. J-20 must not meet the 5th generation criteria with those canards. SU-57 is a completely different story anyway. Even the F-22 should not be considered the 5th generation since it does not have sensor fusion like the F-35. Moreover, even the F-35 has other problems, such as limited super cruise ability and very high exhaust gas temperature, which negatively affects the stealth feature of the F-135 engine.
The aviation technology and industry that you say Turkey does not have was one of the most important parts manufacturers for the F-35. It was producing both the middle fuselage and some parts of the F-35, which is the most complex body part, and many critical parts of the F-135 engine. Some of which it was the sole supplier of. Even F-35 program manager Tom Burbage said in an interview that Turkey is one of the best and trouble-free suppliers in the program and their problem is that they cannot give more work to Turkey because they have to give work to other program partners.
Turkeye had previously announced that the first models would be the 4.5 generation KAAN Block 10. Aselsan develops the avionics and EOTS system. Research on radar absorbing paints and coatings has been carried out for years. The radar, which you say does not exist, was made in Turkey, including its microchip design, and testing of the finished prototypes has even begun. KAAN has two important parts that will be foreign sourced. One is the engines and the other is the ejection seat, both of which are being worked on, especially the engine. Türkiye is developing an aircraft that suits its needs and it doesn't have to be better than the F-35 in every aspect. Yes, Turkey will need time, especially for engine and sensor fusion, but they are not expected to be in the first block anyway.
So it would be better if you do some research before you start talking nonsense.
@@Kenny-yl9pc You can't know that. You wouldn't know the technology in this plane. Moreover, Tusaş, which has been in the aviation industry for years, is not an ordinary company. Tusaş is a company that produces F16s under license, even better than Lockheed Martin. They made F16 with 0 errors. 17,000 engineers and technical staff work on the TFX Kaan aircraft at Tusaş alone. And this project was officially announced and started in 2009.
And thanks to the United States for providing us a great education. Some of the engineers building those plans got their education in the states. As a dual citizen of Turkey and America, god bless both of them.
Turkey has done a few innovative things. Tactical usage of drones is one of them. The US has used drones on an operational level, but rarely on a tactical level. Turkey has massively used very small drones in foward area to decisively destroy battlefield area units.
Honest interest. What year?
2018-current
@@perrygiles9123also look at the use of Turkish bayraktar drones in the Armenia - Azerbaijan war in which Turkish drones were successfully used tactically as op mentioned. Also look at the recent conflict in Ethiopia where the government successfully held back rebels, in part using Turkish Bayraktars
Uhm...the US developed a hand launched tactical drone for ground troops in 2001 and has been in deployment for 20 years.
Turkey is country thats constantly at war with irak and syria as neigbours. Iran and Russia are serious threads as well. So they have the motivation and the experience. Just their industry and knowledge holds them back
The USA really did put Turkey in a BOX on this one. Turkey needed a missile defenses system urgently to protect itself and The USA would not sell them the same system they have sold or given to other countries. They buy from another source and The USA tells them if you buy it, we kick you out of a multi-billion dollar partnership you are a MAJOR Player in? Yeah, Turkey building their own planes works out best for them.
Turkey is small fry to USA the USA want India as a customer they can earn billions of them
It's not that the US refused to sell it, they didn't. The US had no qualms about selling patriots to Turkey. The problem was that Turkey wanted technology transfer to manufacture it themselves, and the US refused to sell the PAC-3 with technology transfer. They were offered PAC-3 with no technology transfer or PAC-2 with technology transfer. Instead they bought S-400 and lost their F-35s, although that seems to be changing now that the US has offered to let Turkey back into the F-35 program if they get rid of the S-400s (probably by giving them to Ukraine).
@@sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863 Yeah India wont deal with any one that doesn't give them full technology tranfer but Biden did just to get them in the door at the press conference he blurted out "Wev told India everything " 😅
@@braddbradd5671 except that Turkey is the major USA ally in the Middle East and second strongest country in the NATO. Turkey has a very strategic position controlling the Middle East, Mediterranean, and controlling the Black Sea access (meaning controlling the Russian fleet). Turkey influences most of Muslin countries, including Pakistan and the former Soviet Union republics. Not to mention that Turkey's military is way stronger than Indian.
@@arystanbeck914 absolutely correct about Turkey’s strategic value to NATO. Turkey is the strongest bridge to Muslim states for the NATO alliance, both culturally and geographically. However, India is generally considered to be the 4th strongest military power on earth, while Turkey generally falls between 8-11 on most empirical datasets. No disrespect toward Turkey, or their military, just accurate information.
Turkey's history is just brilliant. From tribes to castle to mansions.Osman bey built the foundation of state and orhan bey was the first sultan called sultan orhan who conquered bursa.Then,sultan mehmat fateh conquered Constantine and now they become from land to the sky i.e,from horses to fighter jets.JUST MIND BLOWING.
Turkish history is not just about the Ottoman Empire. Ottoman is just one of them. Turks established the oldest army known in history. Look at the coat of arms of the Turkish Land Forces and you will see. In the year 209 BC. The written history of the Turks is 3000 years old. unwritten, 5-7 thousand years old. We have established 16 great empires in history. The last one is Turkiye.
@@yldrmaydn06 adamsın......cahiller nerden bilecek.düne kadar bizi arap sanıyorlardı.
Dostum Tarıh boyunca 138 devlet 16 imparatorluk kurduk :) tarihimiz çok daha eskiye dayanır
8:58 are we just gonna ignore the fact that there's a city called Batman?
There is a town called the hulk in the netherlands
I heard that's the birthplace of Erdoğan
Nope ! I went there while travelling... And I drew the bat symbol on the city sign! 😂😂😂
@@Omer1996E.C Wrong. He was born in Rize, located in the Black Sea Region.
Yoooo
Turkey has always been a stragic partmer with us and has been a good partner. They live in a tough neighborhood, and have mostly been the adult in the room. They probably just want our support, but not our control. Understandable. America hasn't been there for our partners interest in the past. I wish them luck.
ÇOK DOĞRU KARDEŞİM......
Thanks for understanding ☺️
10/10 analysis. Thank you for your objective viewpoint. Love from Türkiye 🇹🇷
The "adult"? Are you sure about that statement?
bravo
I was expecting to watch a one-sided and biased anti-Turkish video. Thank you for surprising me with this well-researched, and as-is neutral display of facts. That is how strategic reporting should be!
Why would anyone be anti-Turkish? (Maybe the Kurds and Armenians, I guess. But why anyone else?)
@@JohnJaneson2449 All the establishment media in the West is anti-Turkish by default. It may be difficult for you outsiders to grasp it but it's too real to ignore for us. Türkiye's move toeards military self-sufficiency is always viewed as a sort of "betrayal" by the western media. When Türkiye puts its national interests first, it is portrayed as "unreliable ally, rogue ally", but when the U.S. and other bigwigs do it, it is "patriotism."
@@JohnJaneson2449well, since turkey and nato arent that fond of each other anymore, because of the s400 scandal, decreasing democracy in turkey and turkey trying to do its own thing internationally(like having more contact with russia and china than the west would like)it became a standard to talk down and not acknowledge turkish accomplishments. Its like two Friends who have a dispute and now one of them(the west) talks shit about the other one behind his back(that would be the west talking turkish accomplishments bad)
@@JohnJaneson2449 It has historical and geopolitical reasons. Türkiye emerged out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire, which again was the successor of other Turkish empires like the Selcuks or Göktürks. Empires create tensions and friction as regional powers. The same applies to today's only global power, namely the USA. So, if you modify your question as "Why would anyone be anti-US?" then almost the same answers and reasons apply 1.1 to Türkiye.
@@onentogar9599 You gave me good answer on geopolitical level, but on personal level I can't fathom it.
For example, I can see why people dislike CCP/PRC China because of the foreign minister bullying and Chinese internet trolls constantly insulting everyone for no reason at all.
I just don't see the same attitude towards the Turks or Turkish government for that matter.
Turkish government might be imperfect but it's not offensive at all to most people.
As a foreigner, I see Turkiye as just a nice place, with nice people, very nice culture, and still acceptably nice government.
Armenians and Kurds would disagree, of course.
1. NATO removed their patriot air defence system located in eastern Turkey, while PKK firing rockets from Syria.
2. Turkey purchased the Russian S400 to cover their airspace left unprotected by NATO.
3. It was ok for Greece to purchase the Russian S300, but not ok for Turkey to purchase S400.
For Turks, there's no better joke than NATO.
This is a wrong argument. The truth is that Greece existing S-300 systems were purchased by Cyprus for defending the Island but after a strong diplomatic opposition mainly by Israel and secondary by Turkey, USA suggested and the 2 Hellenic States aggreed that S-300 will be transferred to defend Crete and Dodecanese and in return Greece transferred some of her TOR-M1 short range anti-air systems to Cyprus.
@@G_SachsDoes not change the fact that Greece has Russian defense systems that operating near by the American made airplanes
@@cihadbektes This is totally different because Turkey bought Russian anti-NATO S-400 systems instead to buy Patriots or similar western systems that were available to her. I remind that Turks did not purchased Patriots because they wanted not only the Patriots systems but also the detailed blueprints and know-how of manufacturing them (for copying! they think of themselves as smart ones...) that is unacceptable by any original manufacturer of a so advanced technological and scientific Armament. The Turkish audacity is unique! No other Patriot owner member country of NATO had a such irrational demand! When Greece took indirectly the cyprian S-300 systems there were no F-35 hint in the horizon. The existing models of HAF then, had no problem coexisting with S-300. Greece allready is studying a new long-range anti-air sustem of high altitude for replacement the old S-300 systems before the arrival of the ordered Greek F-35A.
This was one of the most objective and informative videos I have watched about KAAN from a foreign source. Well done, and salutations from Türkiye.
The concept of having a self sufficient military that can rely solely on the state is smart. Why put your future in the hands of possible enemies? It’s the smart, strong, right thing to do. That way your future is always in your hands. Not someone else’s.
Yes, also don't be a victim to whimsical foreign politics.
Turkey has gone a long way developing her own weapons as they should and it's also beneficial in the long run. Obviously this specific project has a long way to go but it's on the right track.
Ah yes, their currency in the shitter, with Turkish maids begging us Europeans to give them Euros
But you do go own how investing billions in fancy toys is "beneficial".
It is not entirely Turkish. The British helped.
Reuters
" NATO member Turkey launched its TF-X project to produce a national combat aircraft in 2016. Turkish aerospace firm TUSAS signed a deal with Britain's BAE Systems (BAES.L), opens new tab worth $125 million in 2017 to develop the next-generation fighter jet. "
@@cosmoray9750hepsi yalan onlar iptal oldu😂😂
@@cosmoray9750 They did get design assistance, but all is made by Turkish Aerospace Industry.
Turkey has long been home to many nationalities and religious denominations, my Turkish friends are extremely kind, beautiful and intelligent people, i have no doubt of their capabilities to produce a capable and worthy fighter, i hope as a NATO member they make her a extension of NATO as well as a self defense staple for their sovereignty and security, hope to see KAAN airborne and in formation soon...
Good analysis. One item left out is that the F35 has punitively high maintenance costs which could make the Kaan a viable option as they are developing their own engine and could leverage the engine across other planes in development. Very objective and informative clip. Well done!
Thank you for the balanced report. I just want to add that Turkish success is not to limited to this 5th Generation Aircraft, although it is the climax of it for now. In the air defence field, they first produced Hurkus training aircraft with turboprop engine, then the built Hurjet which is a jet-engine powered training/close support aircraft. They are also producing fighter and multi-purpose helicopters (Atak I, Atak II, Gokbey, etc.,). They are producing various types of UAV's and drones, including two Un-Manned jet aircrafts: Kizilelma by Baykar (same company that produces Byraktar 2), and Anka 3 by TUSAS the same company that produces KAAN. They have also developed their own multi-layer air-defence system which is on the production line but it constantly gets range improvements. Within a few years, Turkiye won’t need S-400 systems anymore as its own indigenous system will overpass S-400 capabilities. For the Navy, they built various ships/submarines, etc., as well as their own Aircraft carrier. It is predicted that in 2024 Turkiye’s weapon exports will be around $13 Billion USD.
I think people dont understand how insane this actually is what Turkiye did.. the only other countries that have a Gen 5 Jet are super powers like USA, Russia and China. Turkiye being the 4th country. And the turkish Jet even already has features that are supposed to come in Gen 6 Jets, making it the first Gen 5.5 jet with even more advanced technology.
If we take them at their word. I'm sure there's no problem with that. Not like they have a wannabe dictator who would love to inflate his accomplishments and would have no problem lying to his people and the world to make himself look better, right?
well at the moment they just have a flying prototype, although this is a big accomplishment it doesn't "says" anything about the final result and how stealth and overall capable will be
@@a.d.7042 if you do a little research, you will see that Turkey has already produced all the technologies except the engine for the 5+ Generation fighter jet. AESA radar, infrared and optical sensors, digital warfare, central battle management, cockpit electronics, etc.
@@the_realist I wouldn't trust everything Turkey claims. Their tanks are being built for decades, no results yet...
It doesn't though, it's barely a 5th gen fighter. But it is a nice jet!
they literally forced Turkiye to build its own arsenal. it doesnt need to be the best aircraft ever, but if they build factories running, they will surely make their own engine and keep developing new ones. just 1 more embargo
I personally think Turkey is a great asset to NATO. I love Turkey, I have been there on a few occasions and always had great experiences.
Thank you from Turkiye. God bless you..
I love turkey 🇹🇷 good jop turkey turks are great people
Turkey should ditch NATO
Turkiye is not a NATO asset. Turkiye is the second strongest NATO "member" after USA in terms of military participation.
well that would make you a NATO asset. Same as the USA, and all other NATO members.
Surely the specs won't get leaked on the Warthunder forums
Turks are huge gamers btw.
@@berry292 Confirmed then lmao
@@berry292nah forget gaming, the bayraktar and Kaan was already a gamer move
Only when there is a Turkish tech tree in WT
Not a matter of if only when
They built out indigenous defense industry, cos US started blackmailing them with weapon deals.
This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems.
Evet bu doğru
Exactly, they wanted to use this situation for their own interests, but Türkiye did not allow this and did what was necessary.
Den Amerikaner kann man nicht vertrauen, die Geschichte zeigt es sehr deutlich.
As a Turkish citizen, I have always been curious about the thoughts of Europeans, particularly Americans, which is why I want to share with you how the events mentioned in the video unfolded. First, let me say that no country is perfect; everyone has their faults. Just as the Russian Federation is seen as the successor to the USSR, we in Turkey are seen as the continuation of the Ottoman Empire by the rest of the world. The embargo imposed in 1975, as mentioned in the video, was implemented because of Turkey's 1974 Cyprus Peace Operation, supported by a young senator at the time, Joe Biden. We did not invade Cyprus; the Turks living there were being massacred despite Turkey's repeated warnings (which lasted at least five years). The killings continued unabated. Our military was so weak and in such a dire state that we even struck our own warship due to communication failures. Following this, there was a prolonged American embargo due to Greece's pressures, marking a turning point in Turkey's current military capabilities. At that time, we couldn't even produce a pistol bullet. The proximity of Cyprus to Israel led to security concerns that brought Greece and Israel closer, even though Greece was one of the last countries to recognize Israel (1992), while Turkey recognized it just a year after its establishment and had good relations despite being a predominantly Muslim country.
Jumping ahead in history to 2009, at an economic forum attended by Israel, current Turkish President Erdoğan's "One Minute" incident marked the first time Turkey rejected the role assigned to it on the global chessboard by major powers. Since then, relations between Turkey and Israel have never been good. In 2010, when Turkey sent an aid ship to Gaza, it was seized by Israeli military forces in international waters, killing 10 Turkish civilians without any justification, an incident known as the Mavi Marmara incident. You can look this up. Turkey's development in unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) as shown in the video stems from these events. Back then, Turkey was facing terrorism issues in the eastern and southeastern regions, and the only UAVs we had were Israeli-made Herons. The ridiculous part was that while we thought we were monitoring terrorists with these, Israel was watching them before us and had already provided intelligence to the terrorists. The main reason Turkey has become so strong in UAVs today is due to getting kicked while trying to defend itself. The S-400 air defense system issue mentioned in the video is also connected to this, as there is a well-known strong Jewish lobby in America, and by the 2010s, some senators, seeing a strengthening Turkey as an enemy, wanted Turkey out of the F-35 program. This long process continued until the Syrian Civil War erupted in 2011. As the successor of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey realized it was incapable of even protecting its airspace from birds and requested the Patriot air defense system from the U.S., a request that went unanswered for many years. Due to the increasing missile attacks along the border and the loss of civilians, Turkey was forced to meet its air defense needs by purchasing the S-400 from Russia. Citing this as a reason, America removed us from the F-35 program, but it was really about breaking the claws of a non-compliant and uncontrollable Turkey in terms of air power because the region's largest air force had become a threat to Israel. One of the reasons the S-400 issue is utterly absurd is that Greece, a NATO member, has had the S-300 for a long time without any issues. Also, the idea that the F-35's information would fall into Russian hands is equally ludicrous because even now, Israel, which has an F-35 fleet, can freely enter Syrian airspace, where Russia already has the S-400 deployed and has likely obtained all radar signatures of the F-35 for years. This hasn't been a problem for America, but it's an issue for NATO ally Turkey. In short, Turkey's current military strength has always come thanks to the adversities from its regional neighbors. America has never seen NATO member Turkey as an ally due to the powerful Jewish lobby, and their hostile actions are what have led us to this point. There's an old Turkish proverb: "A bad neighbor makes you a homeowner."
You mix some truths with big lies as a real follower of Joseph Goebbels... The illegal turkish invasion of 1974 after a treason by greek yunta in the Democracy of Cyprus with all the barbaric killings of Greco-Cyprians women and children and old people and the brutal rapes of them made by Turkish troops you call it as "Peace Operation"... You have been brain-washed by the deep turkish state...A real nazi practice. And many more lies. For example The truth is that Greece existing S-300 systems were purchased by Cyprus for defending the Island but after a strong diplomatic opposition mainly by Israel and secondary by Turkey, USA suggested and the 2 Hellenic States aggreed that S-300 will be transferred to defend Crete and Dodecanese and in return Greece transferred some of her TOR-M1 short range anti-air systems to Cyprus.
The other lie is that America did not wanted sell Patriot system to Turkey. IT IS A BIG WRONG TURKISH PROPAGANDA. USA in reality had no problem sell her Patriot system. Bur "Clever" Turkey wanted in reality to aquire the know-how and the blueprints which is UNACCEPTABLE BY ANY MANUFACTURER. Then Turkey purchased one S-400 system from Russia BUT THE RUSSIANS ALSO DID NOT GIVE THEIR INDUSTRIAL SECRETS AND KNOW-HOW TO TURKS! A big strategic mistake of Erdogan's administration. So neither USA Patriots nor USA F-35 and NO RUSSIAN S-400 BLUEPRINTS FOR TURKEY.
In other words the American F-35 is like Ferrari model 2024 supercar while the Turkish KAAN is like Lada model 1970. Such an analogy...
Well written, a lot of citizens from western countries are seeking USA For the monster it is. They sell safety, but at an invisible cost to others in another land leaving their own people unaware and unaffected. It seems the internet has changed that over the last 20 years and people are waking up to the fact they don't really do anything except bully people around for their own gains.
It really isn't the Jewish lobby per se, more like Christian Zionism. The evangelical Christians in the US, are not big fans of the Judiasm but the state of Israel itself that must be run by Jews, to bring forth armageddon. It's a prophecy of sort that the Evangelicals believe in, along with prosperity gospel that you won't find in Catholicism.
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Thats all true, I can´t explain it better, thanks. Yazdigin icin cok tesekkürler.
TRE / Germany
Turkey’s incredible achievements of defense industry is going to keep peace at home and in the world. Never underestimate the Turks. It was a good video.
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Can’t blame them for wanting to build their own shit! Allies can quickly become adversaries, so relying on other countries for all of your military tech is a huge L
Exporting your military tech to countries that have proven to be friends with your adversaries or at least shown a propensity to be sympathizers to your adversaries, is also an L. Goes both ways, you stand more to lose giving away your tech than you do purchasing it. How ironic would it be if we gave Turkey F-35’s, just for them to get turned on us or handed over to Iran or Russia? No thanks.
"their own" lmao good one.
This is using American engines, sensors, computers, radars, etc.
This is basically a turkish wrapper on an American product.
@@rock3tcatU233You mean like in a global economy? Nobody is building everything! It is still a big achievement to build a jet, even if the engine comes from somewhere else. Just as the chemicals, the materials, the machines, ... almost everything in the world has parts from somewhere else. That's how a globalized economy works and that's why we can build things cheaply.
Jesus Christ, why would you complain about that? Aren't western nations importing everything from China?
@@rock3tcatU233 In the end America is MVP
@@rock3tcatU233the only thing bought from america is the engine and the only thing bought from england is the ejection seat. american engines will only be used in 20 aircraft. since these engines are already 4 generation engines in these engines, domestic 5 generation engine studies have started, it is planned to catch up with the serial production date of the aircraft, only the ejection seat remains. you have given us a lot of experience by making us produce f-16 and f-35 parts for years and now we can do most things locally.
Ukraine wants to purchase turkish fighter by money being "donated" by europe and US , who kicked turkey out of f35 program. How ironic
Ukrayna büyük bir el tarafından yönetilen bir kuklaya benziyor. Çok yazık ukrayna halkı için üzülüyorum.
Turkey shouldn’t have bought the S-400 I was a huge fan of turkeys actions in Syria becuase it undermines assad the Russians and Iran, however buying the S-400 like wtf bro .
@@JeferonConor being paronoid of us millitary bases in greece.But probly some money had to be given to russia for some operation they might do in future after we buy the system that might make some turkish products more needed.;)
If you look little upper at map u might see the country we are talking about
@@JeferonConor from my understanding, USA wouldnt sell the defense system for various reasons. I heard Turkish people saying USA wanted full control over the defense systems after they were sold. Turkish and American officers couldnt agree on key points so Turkiye went with russian defense systems because they did not want so many things as USA. Not sure if its true but imagine not selling your ally weapons to defend themselves so hard that they go and buy the weapons from your enemy.
US : Since you brought some S400s, we ain't selling you F35s
Türkiye : ok, hold my döner
TÜRK ü tanımıyorsunuz.kılıç kınından çıktımı sulhu getirmeden kınına girmez.siz biat edeceksiniz Tüek e.
@@hamdiaraclidur sakin ol enişte 3. Dünya savaşı çıkarcan😁
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The name "Kaan" is itself has roots in the name "Khan" (as in Genghis Khan and Kublai Khan). Needless to say, the Star Trek movie with Captain Kirk screaming "KHAN!!!!" comes to mind when I hear the name of this aircraft.
Actually it is not Khan, that is the european form. Turks and mongols say Hkan. Atleast in modern times. Yes Kaan is Khan. Another form is Kagan and Hakan might be the same.
Turks came from Mongolia that's why
@@BobInGreek mongolia were whole asia and middle east while seljuk turks were already in anatolia so no turks did not came from mongolia but they have similar culture. But only as similar as polish to russian and ukrainian. Different but similar in some ways
@@ibks640 I gave the basics without going into depth. İ know my history
@@ibks640 sorry if i sounded bit passive aggressive
That’s not an excuse to breach contract with a foreign government. If turkey wants to buy a foreign air defense system, they have the right. I’m glad they’re making their own.
It was just an excuse and the real purpose was different.
Did you missed the reason or you're just a dick?
It was a bluff. USA refused to sell AA systems, Despite screaming everywhere how Turkey is one of the most important regional allies of theirs.
So, Erdogan went for S400 as a power move.
Trump then not only kicked Turkey from F35 program, But also refused to return the money they took for the orders for finished F35's. Instead forcefully selling us their old F16's.
It backfired, but at least in the long run Turkey wont need to *beg* for AA systems nor Jets from their so called allies.
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Before the S400, Türkiye wanted to buy pattriots for a long time and US didn’t give them. So that was necessary to get an air defense and they decided to buy someone else. US left Turkiye alone on this and paying the price.
"Turkey bought S-400 because usa doesnt wanted to sale patriots" se thats the truth and many ppl dont know.Every single word in this video correkt and true.Huge respect to that.First time seing a video in youtube that doesnt contain any fake,untruth words or visualisation.Worth watching ,great job .
The Americans were willing to sell patriots to Turkey, but Turkey wanted the blueprints to produce them as well, and the Americans said NO.
USA did not sale patriots because turkey assisted IS and closed airpsace for NATO Members to protect ISIS. Dude. Stop telling only the half story.
Yeah expect he said fighting against Kurdish Forces, that was wrong. Turkey is fighting against terrorist forces. There are 20% Kurdish people already living in Turkey in peace. They are also against this terrorist organizations. There were lots of Kurdish Mothers, Fathers, asking for help from Turkey, claiming that those terrorists have been kidnapped their kurdish children. Kurdish people are against those terrorists. That is just what Usa wants to promote everyone for years as they do in other countries. Create a terrorist organization, support it, use it.
And also, as always as hypocrite, Usa said no nato country should have Russian defence, but Greece has lots of S-300. So.
@@Spiderhip Bullshit. NATO said 2016 no country should buy russian weapons ANYMORE. Greece has S300 sind 1998! Turkey buyed S400 in 2018. S400 is totally different!!
Kurds in Syria are not all terrorists. Turkey is killing children in syria.
@@Spiderhip wrong. Greece bought S300 in 1998. Turkey bought S400 in 2018 - long time after NATO said - no weapons from russia ANYMORE. S400 is critical system because of F35. This is is the real reason.
Congrats Turkey …. From indonesia
The jet is badass! Congrats turkey
Honestly I respect Turkey for this. I also like the twin engines.
Personally I like US allies having a domestic military industry. It makes meeting the GDP requirement for NATO to stay in country and help build domestic capabilities instead of losing money overseas.
We r not ur ally 🇹🇷
keep coping
@@cenk714
@@cenk714 Turkey is a part of NATO. The US and Turkey are factually allies.
The US has missile bases in Turkey. Turkey assisted the US in the Afghan War.
The two countries have been allies for a long time now. Just because you may not personally like America doesn't change the facts.
When was the last time Turkey actually WASN'T an ally to the US? World War 1, when you guys were the Ottoman Empire?
@@MecawallaceTürklerin 100/98 natoyu istemiyor nato ülkemize sadece silah satıyor ve gelişmemizi engelliyordu gerektiğindede silah vermiyordu geç kalsakta farkına vardılar asya silah ve gelişme bakımından avrupa abd den daha faydalı bizim için emin ol
@@Mecawallace and WW2
Being part of the middle east, being self-sufficient is a very smart idea for Turkey. Especially in situations where foreign support shifts constantly.
its not in the middle East mate ...half European half Asia
@@DreweTube It is. It's west Asia, which most people call middle east. It's only half Europe because it borders Europe and is heavily influenced by it.
@@DanDaFreakinManActually not just borders bro, Istanbul is half Asian half Europe city literally when you look at as continent (+ 3 other more cities with Istanbul) but I agree Turkey's location is called Middle East.
Plus: if you ever visit Istanbul, you can even feel the difference between Asia and Europe side with like half hour drive or ferry, its a weird feeling in a good way😅
@@closery yeah it's one of those countries that kinda cross continents, like Russia and Egypt.
Yeah, sure. As if Iran, Iraq or Syria are about to invade Turkey anytime now! Turkey needs to be self-sufficient in earthquake resistant homes right now, but dreams of useless airplanes against imaginary enemies. Unless if they plan to invade Israel, something that shall give a good laugh to everybody...
If Turks build own weapons, it means, they can fight like grey wolfs. ❤🐺🇹🇷🇰🇬🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇦🇿
Can we all appreciate that Turkey has a better 5th gen fighter then Russia
What 5th gen figther does Russia have? Su-57 is fourth gen.
I think not.
I'm from Turkey but your comment sounds like ideological nonsense.
Bu yazıyı okuyunca gülmeden geçemedim ! Su 57 KAAN ‘nın rakibi olması imkansız, esas Komedi KAAN tam olarak 5 sene sonra hazır olduğunda , F22 nin durumu ne olacak ? çünkü Dünya genelinde hiç bir yerde yetkinliğini kanıtlayamamış şişirilmiş bir balondan ibaret sadece efsane birde eski Teknoloji ile üretilmiş bir Uçak , ama KAAN son derece son Teknolojiye sahip bir Savaşçı olarak ortaya çıktığında gerçek anlamda bir Türk Lokumu ( Türkis delight ) işte o zaman kimin daha iyi bir savaşçı olduğunu göreceğiz yaşayacağız. Sonucu ben size şimdiden söyleyeyim Tabiki KAAN !
Based on what ?
Fighter contracts create communities. It's pretty awesome to be a kid during an aerospace boom. My Dad and all His Friends were in aerospace. They'd talk about the Space Shuttle project, fighter planes, missiles, all stuff a kid could sit and listen to (trying to understand the conversations).
Elon musk ruined my perception around space travel. Brought my hopes up of planet colonisation then failed to deliver. Just a showman
@@Alastair_Adana Completely.
You guys should feel the same way about NASA then. But I doubt it.
@@michaelbread5906 Watched a whole bunch of moon shots and shuttle launches. NASA isn't really NASA anymore.
It also gives away technology to others. That's not good
This fighter jet from Turkey looks like a real delight
Lol it's a Turkish Delight 😂
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This comment killed me 😂😂😂
i thank you for you to tell the story objectively without holding US side
People says it looks like f22. Actually all stealth jets look like each other. Because of geometric restrictions. Most stealth design is LAMBDA design but lambda desing hasn't got vertical stabilizators which make it less maneveurable. Second most stealth design is diamond design. Stealth fighter jets uses cropped diamond design with vertical stabilizators for better maneuverability.
Just add the KAAN to War Thunder, start an argument online about it and all the details will become available within 6 months.
hahaha 😀
Ah yes the path to real truth! Start an argument! 😂
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Let's clarify one point: Türkiye initially sought to purchase a US air defense system, but its request was denied. Subsequently, Türkiye explored other options and eventually procured a system from Russia. It appears that the US used what many perceive as a questionable justification to remove Türkiye from the F-35 program.
This is half true. USA DID NOT REFUSE TO SELL PATRIOT MISSILE SYSTEMS to Turkey. The "clever" (read dull) Turkey wanted to steal the Know-how and blueprints from the original manufacturer who have spent years of Research and Development for such an artifact of modern American Science and Technology. All other allies of USA had no problem aquiring the systems. Only Turkey had the "anatolian bargaining" as usually in her attitude. So Turkey sees wrongly her dimension in a perversive mirror as longer than the actual dimension. No more turkish lies with Americans and Europeans missile systems.
The Americans offered the Patriots, the Turks wanted the blueprints in order to produce their own Patriots, the Americans refused, and the Turks bought the S-400 which they cannot use right now or else they won't even get F-16's, and they got kicked out of the F-35's too. Smart move! Does your Sultan also manage the Turkish economy that well? The hell he does!!!
Turkish army has second largest drone army in the world and they have so many diffrent Technology (laser, rail gun etc.)
And?
"We've got F-22s at home."
The F22 at home: KF21 and the turkish F22
This sounds like heresy, but the Kaan has more sensual lines than the F22. This bird is a total smoke show
I've seen a Chinese car that looks like a BMW still doesn't make it one , same here.
to be fair, since what a knock-off from the original concept is F-22, any propperly done attempt to do what it aimed to do is going to be better.
with old F16 engines
My RAM Van was built in Istanbul Turkey. They did a great job!
If its the Van im thinking of, the one thats based on the Fiat Doblo platform, im sorry but they're not built in Istanbul but built in the Fiat factory located in Bursa Turkey. Bursa is one of the main industrial cities of Turkey especially specializing in the Automotive industry.
@@tolgahk84 that's Tofas Factory, not Fiat factory. Tofas is perma engineering integrator for R&D's of Fiat + Koc Group is share holder for Stellantis. Learn your lesson before speaking.
@@engizkavak2082 It might be the Tofaş factory BUT many Fiats are built in the Bursa factory along side a few other models for Citroen and Opel/Vauxhall. Tofaş was originally a joint venture between Koç Holdings and Fiat. By the way Stellantis is the new name of a merger between the Italian-USA companies Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles and the French PSA Group who owned Peugeot and Citroen so Tofaş is still technically partly owned by Fiat although under a different name.
So before talking to me like a dumbass go do some research of your own of the origins of certain companies before dribbling shit you don't know about
Not to forget Turkey turn to the King of UAV's.The ANKA 3 and the Kızılelma has jet engines, low radar crossections and an AI. They will go to on a mission with the pilot of the KAAN together which turn the KAAN to an almost 6th Gen fighter. Maybe the term Gen 5.5 is much more accurate.
That is being... very generous. All of that stuff is the definition of a 5th-gen fighter, we have yet to see anyone really develop a 6th-gen jet. And if someone does, it will either be the Tempest program, the US, or China. Türkie's aerospace industry is good, and growing fast, but it's still very far from 6th gen.
@@atomf9143 Turkish Aerospace will reach 6th gen capabilities once they operationalise 5th gen fighters.
@@atomf9143 As a Turk I do agree with you. We may be developing 5th gen tech that has resembles the features of 6th gen but this aircraft will take a long time to enter service. And after that it will take even longer to get a 6th gen project, we got a long way to go just like our allies. I also believe that the Tempest program will probably be the first to be finished as it seems to be the most promising project currently
as a french person. i respect them (turkish people) a lot and i love their people they are so friendly
The fact that you live in France does not make you a French man given the fact the big number of muslims immigrants there. The real French People are keepers of the famous anthropocentric Greco-Roman civilization and dislike any turkish propaganda and their provocations.
@@G_SachsGreco-Roman? 😂😂😂 Greek influence was lost after the Roman conquest until Byzantium. Even after that, we replaced and upgraded Rome; which became a toy under Greeks.
@@Dr-Ekmek What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity.
Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks. 😆
@@Dr-Ekmek What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity.
Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks. 😆
What a Turkish complex and jealousy about the incomparable Greek civilization, the donor of humanity.
Dear international readers: Turkish jokes (read AUDACITY) that "Turks upgraded civilization"! Their international crimes called genocides against Armenians and Greeks of Pontos and Asia Minor and Assyrians and now Kurdish people are the only "upgrades" they have done! The Nazi's genocide against the Jews are imitators of the master Turks.
as a malaysia we proud of you brotherrrr ,salamm from malaysiaaaaa for turkiyee ,huraaaaaaaaa turkiyee is anmazing half europe asia ,making they aircraft is the good idea cause only turkiye in islam country can do it as a development islam country and rich culture and good relation with east adn west world and nato member ,turkiye have they ability to build anything like weapon vehichle combat and any else even malaysia my counbtry also use turkiye product of military
omg, now I want nasi lemak. Why do you make is so delicious???? 🤤
@@JohnJaneson2449 yes, because the rice is filled with ingredients that make me taste like coconut milk and banana leaves and then doapdandan with round egg anchovies and spicy tamarind sauce which is very tempting if you think about it and can be eaten with chicken dishes
Tank you bro 🇹🇷💕🇲🇾
@@Teymen34 yaa beside turkiye food also have in any country especially in japan which is hard to find halal food
islamic brotherhood ? Nazi-like tribalism fckin islamist
Congrats Turkiye Air Force from Jordan.
Bayraktar was a young guy when he finished his education in MIT came to turkey and said to president "give me 20 years and turkey will be one of the top drone countries in the world"
You are completely wrong, Bayraktar’s father was rich, he is not so smart, he finished the private schools with his Fathers money. Drones was an already decision of Turkish Council to develop drones before president Erdogan. Havelsan Aselsan example they did Anka, Poyraz, Aksungur models already. But Bayraktar was promoted only by Erdogan’s disgusting propaganda, because he got married to his daughter and now they found another way of getting rich with this propaganda. Havelsan Aselsan Tusas, these units were established in 80s and 90s they started to develop drones as well.
You must Know that in USA, his Supervising Professor was a brilliant Greek? We Greeks still give Knowledge for free without hesitation even to our enemies.
@@G_Sachs It's like this thing. Why don't math teachers become doctors? Everyone knows the answer.
@@sabahattinbey In the case of UAV manufacturing, Greece had done pioneering work 20 years well before Turkey did. The initial State Airplanes Factory and later The Hellenic Aerospace Industry in cooperation with the Research Center of Hellenic Airforce designed, developed and manufactured the UAV Pegasus I back in 1982 (!) for Surveillance and Information Collection operated by a special UAV Unit of HAF. The present model Pegasus II is an advanced model in all aspects and. introduced in 2005. After the turkish deep state declared her expansionistic and revisionistic hostile policy against Greek Lands and Sea Rights with their "ala Turka interpratation" of International Law of the Seas (UNCLOS) the Greek Private and Public Defence Industry motivated and created and create every day new unique tecnological and scientific products for operations in Air, Land, Sea and UnderSea dimensions.
@@G_Sachs Yes, you built this drone. But are you sure it was 20 years before Turkey? Turkey used its first UAV in 1989. Then, in 1990, it launched the domestic UAV-X1-Shahid project. I would also like to mention that Turkey built its first airplane in 1924. VECI K-VI
This is block 0 a prototype. TAI is working on 2 more prototypes for conducting various tests. Kaan won't be a 5th gen jet right off the bat. It will be 4.5th gen to start with when Block 10 comes out sometime in 2028 and eventually, it will evolve into 5th gen in 2030. The most important thing is the indigenous jet engine that is being developed at the moment.
Do you any link for the development of the jet engine
@@zb2192 TEI developed smaller sized jet engines. For example, TF 6000 turbofan, TS 1400 turboshaft. They gained experience to make something bigger. TEI produces many engine parts for General Electric. I think they can make an engine for Kaan.
Cool
Jet engines take years to develop, in the interim, Turkey should buy some Russian engines, the IZDELIYE 30 is a brand new Russian engine that was developed for the heavy su--57 and would give the lighter Kaan a huge speed advantage over most opponents. Of course it may not fit the Kaan or Russia may not wish to sell, however they are already selling the s--400 to Turkey, so they may sell jet engines.
@@johnbodman4504We want to fly the jet, Not blow it into pieces :D
I'm willing to bet that this jet has more potential than the J-20 at least, and the Felon isn't really that stealthy, from what I've heard. The KAAN looks like an F-35 and F-22 jumped into bed together and this was the result.
I doubt it. Although I'm sure they were flaunt it like it is on par with the F 35. In fact I think they already have.
I'm glad we didn't sell systems to them. Turkeys only cares for Turkey, and will make deals with your enemy.
They care not about anything unless it effects them, and anytime they get any leverage they use it.
I have no doubts they'd give F 35 secrets to Russia in exchange for something.
J-20 😂😂 ain't a real fighter jet. That's a very low bar.
@@JohnJaneson2449 No, but a big deal is made about it's supposed stealth capabilities.
"supposed". China is same as Russia. They boast much. Neither china nor russia have 5th gen fighter. Lot's of countries nowadays can make an airframe and slap some engine and TFT display into it.
Devil is in the detail. Radar range, weapons range, connectivity, real stealth with actual load, etc. Either it has it all or it's just another expensive dog fight toy.
Yes
Turkey is a CULTURAL GIANT in it's region. So this fighter is just the tip of a strategic spear.
IMHO
I appreciate you humour!
@@selimbakirhan I try to open your eyes to understand that:
1. USA F-35 Advanced Electronics and Aviation and Engines and Sensors is not at all comparable with KAAN that is only an Erdogan's peopagandistic toy, a tin skeleton with F-16 engine.
2. That USA Had not objection to sell Patriot Systems to Turkey as did in all other allies countries including Greece. But the clever (read dull) Turkey wanted to aquire the know-how and the bluprints of Patriot System that is of course PROPERTY of the original manufacturer that spend thousands manhours in basic and applied Reserch and Development to make such a diamond. Nobody other Ally of USA was so audacious to ask such unspeakable request. Russia also did not give its know-how of S-400 to the clever anatolian bargains...
It is tragic that after 20 plus years of Erdogans leadership Turkish people and all Turkish parties have been brain-washed with neo-ottoman imperialistic dreams and are so away from the Western Greco-Roman Civilization and Antrhopocentric Values. It is obvious that Turkey with such an attitude will not enter in our European Union of Democratic Countries and soon or later leave NATO Alliance going fully to Asian authoritarian States. It is also clear that NATO after that will gain control of East Thrace and the Straits and the Independent Kurdistan will be a reality in Kurdish occupied now lands.
I usually like to joke around in the internet, but Turkey, and the surrounding regions are different.
>Consider the destructive stupidity of the US and Russia's actions in Ukraine. There is a power vacuum, and who will fill the void? Maybe Turkey?
THAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN THE COMMUNIST CHINESE!!! And the CCP are the ones planning to take over the region... Sad
IMHO
@@Freddy-Da-FreeloadahNo this is not a good idea. An old Ionian Greek proverb say: "All dogs are coming from the same genre"
by far the best video online about KAAN and its effect on Turkey and international relations...
The only thing left is jet motor and Turkiye is working to produce its motors, after that Turkiye will not be dependent on other countries
Üretti bile yeni son dakika bir bilgi
Yanılıyorsun tf35000 i.uretmemize.rahat 5 6 sene var , tf6000 motor ateslemeleri yeni başladı@@haticekubrakulu8505
Şimdilik Tf 6000 ve Tf10000 Tabiki yeterli değil.
@@haticekubrakulu8505 aynen üretti dalga mı geçiyon ya 2030 a kadar süre veriyolar bu çıkmış üretti şimdiden diyor hühehe
With Russia steadily antagonizing their former republics and partners, new markets for Turkish defence systems can open up in the Central Asian republics and in Georgia. Central Asia has already established very friendly relationships with Turkey due to the common Turkic historic and cultural heritage. They have already formed an Organization of Turkic States, with even Hungary as an observer state. With Turkey becoming a major weapon producer, their influence over the other Turkic states will only grow.
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But still most of the jets sale would be to Azerbaijan Pakistan and maybe some other countries like Indonesia Malaysia Qatar and Ethiopia
Back in the 90's I visited many Turkish companies in the arms business. One was making AIM-9 Sidewinder missile parts which were shipped to the US for incorporation in production there. Nice productions line, high attention to quality processes and a lot of pride. One thing I can assure you about Turks: They are get up and get going people. 12 hour work days all year long are considered normal regardless of "rank" in the co.
You are describing the great civilized western world some decades ago. Nowadays, you guys brought yourselves in to a situation discussing whether a man can be a woman. Best wishes for you to wake up from a Turk. Peace
We work even on weekends, this is called overtime, we are given extra money, we cannot object if the boss says you will have to work overtime, we have a maximum of two weeks of leave a year, we use it one week in winter and one week in summer, we are a nation accustomed to working.
@@huggy2-tc9ke Great: I hope you get accustomed to electing better government.
@@AlanTheBeast100 😂 the comment I was looking for
@@AlanTheBeast100 I did not choose the government, it has existed since I was born, in all the choices I have made, the government never falls, I have to work instead of crying to live
Some "allies of Türkiye" need to understand that Türkish nation is not such kind of a nation which you can make it bend the knee by imnposing sanctions or embargos. Türkiye's official motto is "peace at home, peace in the world" but this doesn't mean Türkiye would sit and watch when faced aggressions or their interets were threatened.
I have a house but my neighbor has found a treasure in his yard. So I as a real Turk will not stay without action and I will invent a story that his yard is in essence mine and if he wants peace we must share at least kazan-kazan his treasure... I don't recognize his titles because our neighborhood according to my interpretation is a special unique case!... This is my revisionistic and expansionistic policy but it is my interest after all!... Of course I have the motto "peace in my house" and "peace in my neighborhood". But We will not have peace if my neighbor does not accept to share his treasures. After all I have 10 children to feed while my neighbor only 2... Why don't you understand my Right to explain the International Law according to my interests?
Captain Kirk hated this plane name choice
Kaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!
I think Captain Kirk already knows 5th Gen is already out dated by 10 years.
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@@gazzamc1255 That's not how it works
Turkey builds kebabs and makes fake clothing that's all
They don’t want to be in trouble and the US turn the key off their airplanes…I don’t blame them at all
No plane have keys to turn off but they can cut spare part shipments to make them useless
@@tezcanuyank3446 The US can most likely make any F-35 unusable via satellite.
They are developing their own stealth plane because Turkey have been snubbed by the USA from buying the F-35. It’s in the video. The Turks are in NATO. But they buy Russian stuff too. This didn’t instill confidence in the USA so they weren’t allowed to buy the F-35. The U.S. didn’t want to fall in a situation like they did with the F-14 tomcat. They sold a bunch to Iran when they were a “democracy “. Then Iran returned to the stone ages with their Ayatollah government. So we stopped using the Tomcat.
@@tezcanuyank3446they most certainly do.
@@marble25
Only 2 countries on earth besides the US are not subject to having to receive a code to fly their lightning 2s. Britain and Israel. Everyone else requires a code from the US or Lockheed to fly it. And I wouldn't be surprised if it could be cut off mid-flight.
This looks like a case of Turkey doing what's best for Turkey. Good for them. Every country that can afford it should seek self-sufficiency when it comes to energy production, water & food supply, and self-defense.
Turkey has not serious Energy sources and this is the major problem of them. They try to solve it by booling and intruding illegaly without success to the EEZ waters of Democracy of Cyprus or Greece. Greek pilots of F-16 Vipers and Rafales, the Greek Navy ships and the silent killers of the deep the greek undetectable submarines U-214, the greek Leopards 2HEL plus the greek attack Appache Hellicopters and Kiowa wait for the turkish "mistake". Greek Army is capable for destroying the dreams of turkish militarism about "blue homeland" and crashing the "prestige" of the "second strongest army of NATO" who have gain "expirience" fighting only with weak Syrians or Libyan or Kurds guerillas and african tribes while the mean IQ index of a mean turkish soldier is only the one third of a mean greek soldier not to mention the Greek Special Forces and Greek SEALS units (OYK) the nightmare of any would-be intruder.
Turkey has not serious Energy sources and this is the major problem of them. They try to solve it by booling and intruding illegaly without success to the EEZ waters of Democracy of Cyprus or Greece. Greek pilots of F-16 Vipers and Rafales, the Greek Navy ships and the silent killers of the deep the greek undetectable submarines U-214, the greek Leopards 2HEL plus the greek attack Appache Hellicopters and Kiowa wait for the turkish "mistake". Greek Army is capable for destroying the dreams of turkish militarism about "blue homeland" and crashing the "prestige" of the "second strongest army of NATO" who have gain "expirience" fighting only with weak Syrians or Libyan or Kurds guerillas and african tribes while the mean IQ index of a mean turkish soldier is only the one third of a mean greek soldier not to mention the Greek Special Forces and Greek SEALS units (OYK) the nightmare of any would-be intruder.
To those people who call KAAN a "Knock off F-22" or "Basically a copy-n-paste", copying a plane is not as easy as y'all think. To fully copy a plane, you need to have the same computer systems, same Hud, same Engines etc. Basically KAAN needed every technology of the F-22 to be an F-22 copy, so right now it is far away from being a ripoff.
The front is looking like an f-22 and the rear is looking like an su-57.
thesis,
antithesis,
synthesis.
when you want to make a jet both stealth and as aerodynamic as possible, you don't have much design choices
They also have wings similar to the Wright brothers invention.
@@alican903 actually you do. There are plenty of designs, and it's especially apparent with it's backwing designs.
I mean KAAN is clearly just a copy and there's no surprise there and nothing to really be ashamed of. It's just the way it is and no other ways it could have been done. Turkey has no experience in producing those planes. When you have no experience in building fighter jet planes, you have to start from something, your only option is to copy.
@@alican903you do if you let your imagination run unchecked
i am amazed by the knowledge and research behind the making of this video. well done. hello from Turkiye.
Turkiye is the smallest country with a 5th gen fighter entirely made domestically?
China J20 & FC31 = 1420 million
USA f22 & F35 = 335 million people
Russia su-57 = 145 million people
Turkiye TAI TF Kaan = 85 million people
Even Japan and India are yet to bring their 5th gen fighters to fruition.
Well done Turkiye 👏
And no European power developed it's own 5 Gen jet
SK also have a stealth fighter. Iran has a stealth drone.
@theancientsancients1769 Because we are directly gping for 6th gen with the FCAS.
Developing a prototype is not the same as having a fonctional and operative 5th gen fighter. Let's see in 5 to 10 years time
No stealth = 4.5 gen
Greetings to all Turks around the world more than 500.000.000 people also who live in Turkiye and feel Turk.. strong at home , strong at the world..
7:16 Turkey asked for American defense missiles and the US never responded positively. All the NATO allies’ doors were closed in front of Turkey even if they have genuine issues and have to defend themselves against Iran militias, Kurdish Terrorists, Armenia and others.
Then, Turkey had either Russian or Chinese missiles options and they went for the Russian option as there are NATO countries already using them today (Greece and few European East block countries).
The fun part is that they have received a very agressive response from their western NATO “allies”. It’s like we are not selling you the missiles, you can’t buy them from our enemies (even if we allow some of our allies to do it) and also, you can’t manufacture them inland. You need to stay easily accessible to your enemies.
With its prominent NATO “allies”, Turkey will never lack enemies.
The US responded positively, but Turkey didn't just want the Patriots, they also wanted the blueprints for building Patriots on their own. Other NATO countries have the S-300 variant, not the S-400 variant which was designed to track the F-35's.
@@Sikader as Turkey is already trusted by the USA to build the whole F16 (except the engine and few parts). Why the US didn’t want them to be able to build parts of the Patriot home. They didn’t ask the whole patriot system as none is stupid enough to do that….also, the speed of the deployment of the patriot system has always followed the mood of those in Washington and other capitals, not at all factoring the urgent needs to protect Turkish civilians in their southern borders. So, as any leader would do, it’s completely justifiably that Turkish leaders tried to go the path of local manufacturing of air defense systems.
On the S-400, that was a desperation moved from Turkey and they have provided all the guarantees that the US could have asked for. Knowing that the S-400 is only rumored to have F35 tracking which is very unlikely as the tech in it is a bit old. Also, Russia didn’t sell S-300 AFAIK and the S-300 weren’t going to fill the need.
In short, a deeply rooted mistrust from US and European allies towards Turkey has been very visible for everyone to see. Not unexpected but sad given all the sacrifices that Turkey has done for the allies especially in the Cold War.
@@Sikader the US was already mad at turkey and wanted to kicked them out of the 5th gen program but needed a reason for it, it threatened them many time before they finally did it for many reason eventually forcing them to buy other air system to get a reason to kick them.
because working in 5th gen and buying s400 which is design to beat 5th gen is a security risk.
Maybe if Turkey apologized for the Armenian genocide and stopped trying to use their weapons to kill Kurdish civilians in order countries and stopped trying to displace Kurds in their own country the civilized world would be more willing to cooperate with them
@@calebbearup4282GERÇEK KATLİAMI HEP BATILI ÜLKELER YAPMIŞTIR. ERMENİ KARLİAMI YALANI İLE TÜRKİYE BASKI YAPMAK KENDİ KATLİAMINIZI GİZLEMEKTEN ÖTEYE GİTMEZ.
“Turkish Delight”😂😂. I need some of those snacks!
Inferior to Tourist Delight
@@Legitpenguins99 inferior to Berry De light
Nom nom nom
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Former US President Donald Trump announced that the Terrorist Organization ISIS was founded by former US President Obama.
Using ISIS as an excuse in Syria and Iraq, the USA is arming the PKK/PYD terrorist organization in Syria under the so-called "Fight against ISIS Terrorism". Would a real State cooperate with a Terrorist organization?
Aren't Türkiye and the USA both allies in NATO? WHAT KIND OF ALLYMENT UNDERSTANDING IS THE USA'S aid to the PKK/PYD terrorist organization, which carries out separatist activities against Türkiye?
This is the whole summary of the s400 crisis. The Americans first tried to sell the old versions at a very high price, then when the s400 issue came up, this time Turkey asked for technology transfer, which was rejected, which I think was stupid. Today the US gives technology transfer to Israel and Korea, if Turkey had given some technology transfer for patriots, this would not have happened.
Especially they selling patriots to countries like Saudi Arabia but not to Turkey to an NATO ally.
It was by design. Congress had a report in front of them at that point by Intelligence community that claimed strengthening Turkish defensive capabilities would harm US' ability to guide policy in Iraq and Syria. By limiting what Turkey could produce and deploy, the intent was to keep absolute control of Syrian-Iraqi Kurdish corridor and first operational intelligence on any PKK YPG assets ( as those are proven to be supported by US High command)
Result is that it backfired spectacularly. While the buying of S-400s were expected, the end result of kicking Turkey out of F-35 program backfired.
For one thing, the F-35 parts produced in Turkey had to be rebranded and reproduced somewhere else. Multiple US based companies offered to pick up the slack, but both the cost increase and lack of manpower in domestic US disallowed that. So it shifted to netherlands. That caused a big delay in F-35 scheduling.
But that's small potatoes, logistics stuff. What really backfired was what happened next. That event triggered the national defense initiative response, which Erdogan did use to enrich his own son in law, but that aside, it effectively caused Turkey to quickly prototype and deploy UAVs. And set aside a lot more funding for military research.
So then the military attack helicopters started being replaced from American cobras to Turkish made ones. That process is underway. Large parts of missile infrastructure Task went over in this video is also a result of that. Multiple missilies covering more verticals than standard NATO ammunition were made.
As Dutch made arms are generally more expensive, and US arms are tied to Congress approval, guess what happened? All the 3rd world nations looking for cheaper alternatives started buying from Turkish military industrial complex.
This all happened in last 10 years, give or take. S-400 crisis wasnt the source of it, but a big catalyst.
Essentially, the big reason why Turkey right now has a dominating position in UAV market or project some soft power over allies even US cannot properly control is because Congress was stupid enough to listen to CIA.
Edit: Oh, and needless to say, the dream of controlling Syrian-IRaqi kurdish corridor blew up in US' face. Syrian govt didnt fall, so Russia moved in. Northern Iraqis saw US support was worth nearly nothing. ISIS made several attempts at a resurgence and while coalition did beat them back down, they never went away.
And Israel just shook the leash of US control and now running rampant. US soft power completely crumbled away thx to combined efforts from the last 4 administrations.
I don't want to bother you, but there is an error.
The only country that gave us air defense technology is Russia. You said The United States hand over technology to SK, but that's not true. contrary. As Korean technology began to surpass that of the United States, Israel and the United States suddenly began to visit, asking for “technology exchange.”
As revealed in several orders, SK Technology has surpassed the United States.
The United States never provides air defense system technology to its allies (Israel may be an exception).
South Korea developed an air defense system together with Russia. In Russia it is called S-350.
Korea also contributed to the development of Russia's S-400.
In any case, SK's air defense system was initially 100% based on Russian technology, but as the United States and Israel cooperated in technology at the request of the United States and Israel, it is now a mixture of technologies from several countries.
In any case, the roots of our technology lie in Russia, and we will not forget Russia’s gratitude.
As I write, America's contradictions become more and more evident.
The U.S. policy of oppressing countries that do not depend on others with the will for independent defense is a big mistake. I respect the strong will of the Turkish people.
We have been oppressed so much by the United States that you can imagine how difficult it must be for the Turks. Even if we develop even old missiles, we face all kinds of threats, intimidation, boycotts, pressure, import and export bans, etc. We too have experienced this over the past 50 years.
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So you want Iran, Russia and other nations to hold US technology?!
aslında usa parlementosuda malesef bağımsız değil. israil ve ermeni lobiciliğin verdiği sonuçtur demek daha doğru.
Turkey is a serious country with a huge military. Impressive plane
It's interesting how it looks so much like an F-22.....
almost like the details were leaked....
Convergent design. There's only so many designs layouts that balance stealth, aerodynamics, and weapon/fuel carrying capabilities.
Same thing why the Boeing X-37 is a mini Space Shuttle, or why the majority of modern airliners look similar.
its almost if aero & stealth designs have to follow principles...
The hell you say China did not sell them that😮
Reason 1: The F-22 is already available, it can be seen with the human eyes and an aviation engineer can prolly guesstimate the things in the making.
Reason 2: There are some guesstimation already available on the internet, they might not be 100% declassified but their pretty well accepted by the general audience.
Reason 3: Physics is the natural enemy of creativity.
I really do hope the kaan succeeds because it would both be so cool but also super interesting to learn about
For all those who says it's a copy, if it's that easy why don't you make a copy?
Just try to copy a simple pen, you'll understand how difficult that is.
it’s a copy lol
Doesn't matter how you put it, it's still a copy.... and probably not a good one at that.
Cry more, your country dont have a self fighter jet 😂@@joker1087
I can copy a pen using parts of other pens your analogy is terrible
Looks cool
One think to keep in mind, Russia has S400 in Syria and US and Israeli F35 flying in Syria every day. Therefore Russian S400 already has the F35 profile. Also Russa has air base and air defense radars in Syria and they control a part of the airspace. Also India has S400 and US is partnering F16 production in India.
Greece has S300 placed in Gritte Island and US opened a navy base in that island also US Aircraft Carriers operate from that island.
fun fact
2000 : Türkiye was prevented from purchasing drones from the United States, and was trying to purchase drones from Israel that were not controlled by Türkiye.
2023 : Türkiye is the world leader in drone exports
the story is not over yet
I am shocked with the quality of the followers of this channel. It is very rare these days to see such amount of logical comments.
indeed :)
They have always been a martial country for a reason
we got to, sadly. the location sucks
Honestly im glad they developed a decent aircraft. I like seeing other NATO countries make significant advancements in their hardware. We can't have every country rely on American airpower or we will fall behind
Thanks to multiple western embargo's on Türkiye, they are now more motivated then ever to be fully independent with their own defence industry 🇹🇷
Worry about your inflated economy first then talk
@@marvelous5038Pretty strong words for someone who still lives with their parents. 😂
@@Mr_Buzz_Aldrincope harder ataturk
@@Mr_Buzz_Aldrin you don’t even know my life what?💀💀💀💀
Oh no! They may catch up in 280 years 🤣
One of the most objective videos Ive seen on this channel and about the topic. Keep up the good work, sincerely, from Turkey.
Abi sizin kusunuz kalkiyormu 🤓
Turkey makes excellent firearms. The Kaan is a beauty.
A tin skeleton with an american F-16 engine. Just a toy for Erdogan's propaganda for internal audience.
Americans are not so smart in Science and Technology as are Turks. Americans are light years behind the Turkey's in Economy. Every Turkish University is better in Research than MIT or Harvard or Yale or Standford or CalTech etc.
The American Industrial Manufacturers are yet in the 18th Century in relation to Turkey's modern factories of 21th Century. Americans don't know the unique recipes of the Erdogan's Wife given by TV to poor Turks about how to make kiofte dishes without real meat... The American currency the Dollar is not so valuable as 1 Turkish Lira. Imagine that there are many ways to use a note of 1 turkish lira when you are in countryside!...
@@G_Sachs Greko cries because no production, no sales
@@G_SachsTurks make 5th gen plane, greeks produce feta and olives
@@G_Sachs shut up greek puppet toy island of america
Considering the lack of resources, what Turkey was able to achieve in aerial warfare by itself is no small feat. Many superpowers are already behind them in drone technology even after having access to vast resources.
I don't need "both sides" on the F35 dispute. I have already heard enough of the American side. In fact, I have only been hearing American side for all previous years. Then I learned that Turkey decided to acquire S400 after Pentagon declined to sell "Patriots".
You say half the truth. USA did not refuse to sell Patriot missile to Turkey. But clever Turkey wanted to take free of charge the industrial know-how and blueprints of the weapon which is unacceptable for the Owner USA of the Science and Technology behind this artifact.
@@G_Sachs it still means America has only itself to blame for losing ally after ally.
@@dulat USA does not need such double-faced "ally" that support Russia expansionism, that creates obstacles to new NATO members, that supported Islamic terrorism of barbaric ISIS, that makes booling to Greece and Cyprus and provokes Israel by supporting terrorism of Hamas and Hezbollah etc etc
A dark hand that does not withstand the TRUTH has erased my answers to the lies of neo- Ottomans expansionists
Who really believes that KAAN is a 5th generation stealth fighter comparable to American or European diamonds as the F-35 or F-22 or Rafale or Eurofighter or even F-16 Viper? Nobody but only ignorant people who like the nationalistic dreams served to them by similar turkish propaganda service! Yes it is a plane "5th generation" ala turka definition...
im happy RUclips moved the comments back to the bottom after they forced people with the new layout where its on the side.
Only see that on TV
How do you get that to happen? I, too, don't like the comments at the side.
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@@indiasuperclean6969 wow, not an obvious troll bot. Like India is not safe, you have a population in the billions, not possible for any of what you talking about is a reality without straight up slavery happening.
US refused to give F35s to Turkiye, and Turkeys had a contribution in manufacturing F35s, but USA did not mind giving Israel F35s even though Israel never contribution in building the F35s, so Congratulations to Turkiye you got your own now so sod the Americans they have no gratitude. Keep it up Turkiye.
Boo fucking hoo you got kicked off a secret program after literally proving your fraternizing with the psychotic enemy who is literally the reason the defense org your part of is created to defend against!
Aslında Amerika'ya ve katkısı olan bir kaç Avrupa ülkelerine teşekkür etmek istiyorum. Onlar sayesinde teknolojilerimiz her geçen gün gelişiyor. Türkiye tersine mühendisliği en iyi yapan ülkelerden birisidir. USA bize hava savunma sistemi vermedi. Rusya'dan almak zorunda kaldık. Sonrasında kendi hava savunmamızı yaptık. Şuanda balistik füze üzerinde çalışıyoruz. USA bize uçak vermedi. Vermediği için kendi uçağımızı yapmak durumunda kaldık. Silah ambargosu uygulandı. Kendi silahlarımızı yapmaya başladık. Kanada bize drone larda kullanmak için kamera sistemini vermedi ve satış ambargosu uyguladı. Şuanda kendi kamera sistemlerimizi üretmeyi başardık. Avusturya'dan aldığımız drone motorlarına Ermenistan savaşında kullanıyoruz diye ambargo uyguladılar. Şimdi kendi motorlarımızı üretmeyi başardık. "Kötü komşu insanı mal sahibi eder" diye bir söz var. Ayrıca Amerika'nın bizim topraklarımızın güneyinde desteklediği PKK/YPG terör örgütü sayesinde hem askeri olarak daima savaşa hazır ve mücadele etmek zorunda kalan güçlü bir ordu olmayı başardık. Hem de ürettiğimiz teknolojileri bu teröristler üzerinde deneyerek tecrübe edindik. Teşekkürler Amerika!
🇹🇷objektif ve şeffaf bir insan ,teşekkürler😊
Well said..
@@ismailozer3298 hMm
Fantastic and wonderful and amazing and superb report, your report is very detailed and very comprehensive, congratulations for the Turkish government and engineers achievements