Ash's Driving Fail June | Delivery Riders
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"Resist the temptation to teach them a lesson" is such good advice. It's really helped improve my driving this last year.
Only thing hold me back from teaching others a lesson is not losing my no claims bonus 😂
“Would you expect it from this taxi driver”
- absolutely yes
taxi drivers also have a secret license that only they get to see which gives them more priority than other road users.
The last guy points to you and looks to be laughing/smiling - I think he's just recognised you mate! He could also have done a thing I did once, which was flash to let someone out who clearly couldn't go and then laugh when I realise how stupid I've been :)
@@williamnot4956 i'm glad it's not you that's flashing
Saves us all a very ugly sight
I actually flashed and waved at the Queen one day, she was going the other way in that massive Bentley and flanked by the whole fleet of police and whatnot. She waved back.
I realised afterwards, it was a very peasant thing to do.
@@Manu-Official Monachists? =Anti-democracy.
@@Matthew-bu7fg 🤣
I thought he pointed at the indicator, he realised Ashley wasn't going left and was acknowledging it
Never trust someone flashing you out. Hit a car that was flashed out a few years ago. Wrote my car off as she drove a across blindly in a 3 lane road. Yet the girl just kept repeating but the taxi let me out, I thought it was safe. Police driving behind quickly told her why it was wrong.
People need to stop flashing people out, especially when there is no hold up or reason. Trying too hard to be helpful, but they are unilaterally changing the priorities and it leads to misunderstandings and opportunities for cash for crash. And actually delays traffic.
There is a new one called flash for cash they flash you pull out they hit you .you are in the wrong they say I was flashing to let you know I was there bang you pay they get a small Fortune from insurance. Never go to a flash just sit and wait .
I ignore flashers.....I'll go when I'm ready and it's safe to do so.
I’m glad I watch Ashley’s videos and learnt this.
I never flash now and don’t trust flashers due to so many accidents that occur.
As a pedestrian a lorry flashed me to go. It was red for me but green for him and traffic was coming the other way. Was not safe for me to go.
That lorry driver obviously doesn't understand how lights work. He got annoyed with me and then went on red!
9:35 - you can have whatever penalty you want for mobile phone use, unless there are enough police with enough resources to enforce it, means nothing unfortunately.
That's exactly it. I think the penalty is fine, it's the chance of getting caught thats the problem. If you had a high chance of getting caught, a lot of people wouldn't do it anymore.
Here's the problem though: People who are on the phone can just take it down onto their lap for 3 seconds when they see a marked police car or uniformed officer. That low probability of being caught (even when someone is actively looking at them) has to be offset by high fines.
But generally I agree. If so many people are getting away with it, the amount of enforcement has to be stepped up. Maybe the police could re-program speed cameras to also snap a picture of any driver who goes below the limit (without a flash of course to not confuse them). And then the ones of usable quality could be sifted for this type of offense. If the person doing it finds only 1 picture every half hour, the state would make a profit. (Not that there should be any reason to only keep the roads safe if it's profitable.)
@@Pystro A nice idea but there a few issues. Most central ticketing offices are snowed under already so sifting through thousands more pics would be unworkable and it suffers from the same problem as Raymond points out; people will just put the phone down for a few seconds whist they go through the camera.
@@raymondbenjamins5884 that's it, chances of getting caught always a better deterrent than the actual punishment.
@@Pystro That doesnt follow, your proof that the fine needs to be high is that they may not catch people if they see police and drop the phone into their laps. If high sentences were a deterrent then few would be murdered in the US, but its actually an incredibly violent country.
I suppose we could look at drugs, they have high sentences for drug crimes and prisons arent full of people caught with pot. That was sarcasm, their prisons are full of people caught with pot.
Absolutely agree that harsher penalties need to come in but I also think that we need more police out on patrol to hopefully see these people and stop them and enforce what's already in place.
I'd go so far as to say the penalties themselves are adequate, but a more intensive enforcement would result in more of them being handed out and thus more drivers actually receiving the lesson. Currently most people never get punished for it, so they never learn to stop doing it.
you want more police on the roads? Gotta stop people voting for the tories then.
Good luck with that I am a delivery driver and I have noticed way fewer patrol cars out there, probably more unmarked cars, but the amount of cars pulled over seems to be lesser these days. I agree from my cab I can see so many drivers driving distracted/on phones etc never any cops about, go 5 miles over the speed limit tho and you'll get flashed by a camera. The cameras are easy money suppliers but the cops actually pulling people over just generates so much paperwork for them I can understand why they would shy away from it.
And if the fines were related to the cost of the cars - it would quickly pay for itself.
If they had a 100% chance of being penalised (through cameras) going through red lights then maybe not so many people would do it.
Regarding mobile phone penalties I think the penalties are sufficient (6 points and £200 fine) to act as a deterrent, it's just the risk of being stopped by the police is so low due to resources being so massively stretched.
It could be a £1000 fine and instant ban with phone thrown in the river, but for the type of drivers who use their mobile whilst driving the 0.00001% chance of being collared by a traffic officer is sufficient to carry on regardless.
Fine could be increased.
or maybe just flat out near max points on licence as well leaving little room for anymore error.
Sir, you were caught using your mobile. I now require you to place said phone on the ground in front of your nearside tyre and then drive forward.
Funnily enough, I just use my mobile phone as a phone. If it rings, I'll call the caller back when I'm good and ready - pulled in or in a car park, or wherever. Same with outgoing calls, a time and place for them. I'm connected enough to the world in the normal course of my day, that I don't want my driving / riding interrupted.
"... resources being so massively stretched...." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tell that to the guy arrested for wrong think, after re-tweeting a rainbow coloured image of a swastika...
I agree
It's quite refreshing watching this channel compared to UK Dashcam sometimes - just to see there is a way of dealing with someone else's dangerous driving that doesn't involve:
1. Accelerating up to the hazard to become part of an already dangerous situation.
2. Holding on the horn for at least 5 seconds to tell the other driver off.
Just got back from picking a mate up 30 mins ago. Had a driver enter a roundabout causing me to brake. Beeping my horn wouldn't change what's already happened so I just cracked on with my day.
I dare say these vids are starting to rub off on me. 47 years old, never too late to learn. Keep up the good work Ashley 👍
Yeah, this channel is better because it’s not aggressive dash cammers causing the problems
I know what you mean about the UK Dashcam videos, 95% of the time the cammer has caused the incident or made it worse!
The best thing about UK Dashcams is ironically enough the comments section, often clowning on the more egregious examples of idiot dashcammers 😂
If someone does something dangerous I'm papping them. Don't need to lean on it like a drunk at a bar but they need to realise. It's not all vicious, a lot is just ignorance and poor driving.
09:20 It seems like every set of lights I stop at nowadays the person behind me reaches straight for thier phone, all walks of life doing it as well. As you say harsher penalties needed.
I think there must be a separate Highway Code that's universally adopted by all delivery scooter riders, as they're exactly the same where I live. Rule #1 in their code probably states that they should never be more than one inch from the vehicle they're following.
wannabe Audi drivers
Rule 2 is they don't have to obey traffic lights. I was crossing the road at traffic lights green man was on and he just jumped the red light heading straight for me I shouted "the light is red you're meant to stop" and didn't quite catch what he said with his accent but it was something like "it's not a red light".
In this case they have not passed their test and are not fully qualified. How do they get to be professional delivery riders?
@@gavinreid2741 I think based on observations you are not allowed to be a delivery rider if you are qualified, know where you are going, can tell pavement from road etc
@Ed Straker Surprisingly it does m8. Its hire and reward insurance - but they tend to be expensive so most of them are running on third party only to make their premiums lower.
I was on my driving test when someone flashed for me to pull out. But it wasn't safe so I stayed put. The examiner said that being flashed doesn't put me under any obligation to move if I don't feel safe.
Exactly. At best it means "I, in this one specific vehicle, have chosen to yield to you if you want to proceed". For some reason people throw everything they know about driving out the window when they see the flash and assume the other person has done all the checks for them and has control over all other traffic.
Although highly unusual without their blue lights on, there may be situations where an ambulance functioning as a high dependency transport (HDU) will try to avoid sudden stops, etc. even if it means going through red lights. Generally they are driven by extremely skilled drivers with well above average anticipation ability, etc. so as to avoid that kind of thing though.
I doubt it is the case here but it is one function of ambulances people are often unaware of which can mean they are driven in an unexpected manner.
Brill as always Ashley. Clip 5, 6 and 7 amaze me, so much bizarre driving from other drivers on just one outing by the looks of it😂
Also to add, the clip at 8:16 is a brilliant example of how correct speed is always essential. You are always one of the best advocates for planning ahead and dealing with stuff before it happens, rather than not planning and just reacting. In one of the few circumstances where all you really can do is react, your car's speed and your alertness is perfect, shown by how quickly you have your foot on the brake for the moped.
This is why the "be able to stop in the distance you can see is clear" idea (which is always advocated for on this channel) is so vitally important to driving.
I also had such a "flashing" moment. I wanted to turn left into a gas station and the oncoming vehicle stopped and flashed. But there was a bicycle lane as well and there was a mother with her child walking down there. The driver was starting to wave his hands that I should go. He didn't notice at all that I couldn't go because I would have to run over the child :)
Just a thought about delivery riders. Many of them have 'L' plates on, but I strongly suspect they're not insured for business. Consequently, they could be breaking the law.
Personally, I think that moped/motorbike riders should only be able to work professionally after they have passed their test.
They're insured to deliver by whichever company employs them, so there's not much you can do about them.
As a delivery driver, I can guarantee every driver you see delivering is insured because if they are not then they've already had their vehicles confiscated
@@kevinpslater extremely narrow minded and uneducated comment Kevin Jesus christ
@@joewilson2175 theoretically, some don't have the correct insurance at times, but are insured normally.
The amount of drivers overtaking me whilst I’m doing the speed limit is crazy and I’ve not been driving long. Motorbikes: whilst they’re filtering I’m always watching them in my mirrors and if I’m in a queue I always leave more than the usual car,tyres,tarmac just in case the bike needs to use the space. Your channel has helped a lot,not just while I was learning but even more now that I have my own car. My eyes are everywhere and grey matter is working overtime 😂
Hi Ashley, I agree with one of your other contributors. As one who drove ambulances for forty one year, we were taught that in an emergency situation we could treat a red traffic light as a give way. But, we would be still held accountable if we caused a accident, we were told to reduce you speed, and approach with caution with both siren and blue light’s on. Other wise we should obey the Highway Code, it was a dispensation not a right.
Parking on the pavement really gets up my back, maybe because I'm a wheelchair user and half the time I end up having to cross the road just to get past. I used to drive as part of my job, but your videos make me wonder if some people have even taken a lesson, very good channel and very informative 👍
I live near some of the areas in this video, and did my driving lessons on a lot of the same roads, and the delivery drivers really are lethal! I think a lot of the problem is that it's often someone who has just bought a scooter or bike, slapped an L plate on it and gone, without so much as a minute of formal training. It's so dangerous.
One of those delivery shops opened across a pedestrian street from me, they all cycled from the door blind round the corners on the path. Only when I started videoing them and told them I was reporting to police did they stop. Keep it up
Lived in NE London for 2 decades and the last 5 years involved almost weekly near misses with suicidal Deliveroo/Just Eat delivery riders.
hourly pay rates would solve that problem.
Yes but it's great isn't it, all this new diversity? Such an improvement to our tired, old-fashioned British way of life where people actually went out and bought their own food and, God forbid, washed their own cars. How did we function before Romanians and Eritreans arrived en masse to save the day?
There are too many scooters doing deliveries using L plates. A requirement that you should at least have a full license for the vehicle you are employed to drive would be an improvement.
Turing right last year from the marina opposite the Coburg pub onto the dock road that goes to otterspool, I hung about for a split second to see which way a car , opposite me,coming down past the pub was going to turn. Then an Audi or Mercedes shot through the very red lights left to right at about 50. That was a very fortunate hesitation, and in the week we were up in Liverpool I saw a lot of very intimidating driving in menacing looking cars. There’s parts of London like that I guess ( don’t drive there anymore!) but Liverpool has lots of wide empty roads. And it’s fair share of nobheads! Safe driving ,Ashley
"people who flash have little perception of the whole situation"
Waiting to turn across the oncoming lane into my driveway last week.
Bus came and stopped at a bus stop, but it's rear was blocking most of my entrance so I just had to wait.
Oncoming car started flashing to let me turn in and I had to point at the bus before they realised it was there.
How does someone not register the presence of a double decker bus directly in front of them? 🤷
Edit: should clarify that the road is wide enough for other cars in both directions to get past if someone is stopped waiting to turn. So no one was getting blocked.
My husband once waited behind a bus which was stopped on the opposite side of the road from our driveway. The car behind us honked to try and make us move, so my husband complied by pulling round the bus and then blocked that car from going past the bus while we reversed onto our drive (quiet road so no-one else was affected except the impatient car!)
"How does someone not register the presence of a double decker bus directly in front of them?"
As a bus driver, it still astonishing how many pedestrians step out in front of buses without looking here in Liverpool city centre.
I'd wager most drivers on the roads do see the bus but decide to cut in front of it or pull out anyway and just don't care.
Re emergency exemptions.
There is no need to have lights/sirens activated to make use of an exemption under the RTA. The only requirement is that obeying the signal/sign/limit would hinder the use to which the vehicle is being put. In general, whilst not knowing specifics, that ambulance should have stopped at the lights.
That’s a very good point from the 1st clip as that he’d have jumped the lights anyway just to prove that his dangerous overtake actually did gain him some time but that normally never gets them anywhere
Your comment about 'flashers' is so true. Many years ago, I was driving along in lane 1 of a 3 lane dual carriageway, approaching a motorway junction, in my mini. An artic drove alongside me in lane 2. He must have been indicating left, as prep to move into lane 1. A car following me in lane 1 flashed to the lorry, the classic 'you're past me, you can move into my lane now'. However, the car clearly didn't take into account my presence in the lane alongside the lorry, and the lorry driver clearly hadn't remembered I was there, and I was at this point in his blind spot. The inevitable happened, and the lorry started to pull into my lane. Luckily, I was unhurt, but my car was a mess - it looked like someone had tried to open it along the side with a can-opener! It was a very scary moment, I did fear for my life at the time. Ever since, I have always been careful to use my own judgement as to when it's safe to move, and I myself will never flash, just simply slow down/yield, and allow the other driver to assess if they're safe, taking all factors into consideration.
Horrible story, would be terrifying, but a 3 lane dual carriageway? I have no idea what the car behind you was thinking, when you explain why they may have flashed, it is so crazy.
6:20 This is a great point. "Body language", or car positioning, is a good way to communicate with other drivers about what your intent it. Other drivers get to learn what slight vehicle movements or positioning variations may indicate that driver is intending on doing and you can make decisions based on them to help traffic flow. Even in the cases of those cars that came past, they would have known to get a wriggle on because you definitely were staying in that right lane for the lights ahead.
9:00 Same sort of message, how to read the other vehicles.
Absolutely. My driving instructor rammed into me how important road positioning was. As he said, if your road position is right, you don't need indicators because everyone will know what your intentions are. (He didn't advocated not signalling, of course! Well, except when there was no-one around to signal to - including any pedestrians that may need to know if it's safe to cross.). He also said to me, on the opposite side of things, is that the only thing an indicator shows you is that that the bulb hasn't blown! Because so many people leave them on after their manoeuvre, or use them badly, that they're not a reliable form of communication - road position can tell you more about their intentions.
regarding the ambulance clips: in the first, they may have been carrying a patient who didn't want jostled, but if that were so, they should have lit up the blues to pass the light. in the second, in my area, if they are going to light up, they light up coming out of the barn, and hit the end of the driveway with the lights and siren already on. makes it pretty clear if people need to help them out or not. addendum: of course, it looks like the ambulance management strategy in the UK is "have as many as you think you'll need" whereas here, it's a private company, and they do "use the fewest you think you can get away with" so that every time an ambulance responds to a call, the rest in the coverage area have to shift to try to cover the gaps.
Clip 10 this episode was born. Brilliant compilation Ash 👌
Regards the last point about not pulling out just because someone is flashing.... I don't always immediately pull out from a junction just because the car to my right is indicating in to the junction. As Ashley says, go off of the position, speed and other aspects of the car also. If they aren't slowing down, they're not 'indicating' that they are going to turn, despite the indicator light being on. I've had many occasions where someone is indicating left and they continue straight on. Not worth pulling out on them, wait a few seconds until they slow and begin to turn the wheels, then go.
Here in Brighton & Hove, food delivery scooters are a nightmare. One thing that may improve the situation would be a change in the law, they would have to pass their test before being allowed to ride for a living. When you let the ambulance out of the station, did you "flash" him first?
I think a lot of the time people aren’t necessarily trying to cut into a queue, but don’t know the roads. I’m always finding myself in unfamiliar places with a queue in one lane tailing back, and me in another when the signs start to kick in telling me this lane is coming off and going somewhere else. I try to join the queue as quickly as I can, but I’m always met with people blocking the spaces to ‘punish’ me for skipping the queue.
Another great video. You should see the way some of the delivery drivers, in fact general drivers, behave around Skem on a Sunday night..
I'm always amazed that it is legal for a learner rider to be able to act as a delivery service. By definition, this is a rider who has not yet been able to show that they have reached a reasonable and safe standard of driving by having past a test. Not a guarantee of course, but it's at least some evidence. In the case of L-plate riders, they might not have had a minute of formal training. I don't know how this fits with insurance either; I assume that whoever employs these delivery riders makes sure that they have the correct business-related insurance.
I wonder if anybody has ever investigated accident statistics among delivery riders?
all i can say is, i fell off while i was a learner on a delivery. the combination of lack of skill, pressure to deliver quickly, and lack of familiarity with the vehicle means learners are not capable of being competent delivery riders.
In any industry I've worked in, the employer is governed by H&S@W legislation. I wonder why delivery companies apparently are not.
Scooter riders have to pass a CBT (Compulsory basic training) on a provisional licence. This allows them to ride anything up to a 125cc scooter/bike. But must display L plates
L plate riders must sit Compulsory Basic Training before they'll be insured, so in that respect, they should have some training. But it is just the basics. In that respect, they are slightly higher up on the pole than some of the delivery cyclists I've seen, who seem to have neither ability nor knowledge of the law.
I'm not sure how those delivery companies operate, no doubt the rider would be classed as self employed and responsible for the legalities of their vehicle. But I look at many of the delivery riders and drivers out there and wonder, do they have things like the correct insurance. Or do we live in a world where strapping a pizza delivery box or sign onto yourself/your vehicle confers some sort of invulnerability on the user... I know when I was a Community First Responder, even though the vehicle was well marked, I still had to inform the insurance company, and get their permission to use it for that purpose.
That's bcos motorcycle legislation is different. It's based on engine size and age of the rider.
A 16yr old is allowed to ride a moped with a CBT.
17 and up can ride a 125cc/11kW bike with a theory test and CBT.
You still have to display L plates and can only take them off once you've passed either the A2 or full A licence tests.
A CBT licence holder has "been able to show that they have reached a reasonable and safe standard of driving by having past a test". They WILL have more than "minute of formal training".
You can't just slap an L plate on a bike and ride legally.
I worked with a guy in his 50's still riding a 125cc and still having to display L plates. Had to do a CBT every 2 years mind.
Those pizza delivery drivers with L plates are LETHAL! Because you don't know how experienced they are, it's even more difficult to anticipate what they're going to do.
I personally give them a wide berth if possible and treat them like cyclists and pedestrians.
Ashley . Caught driving while holding the phone in 2022 needs , auto instant ban , £3000 fine . Most of the drivers on your video are oblivious to others , or cannot see RED . I have a TT970 flip that stays in my pocket bluetoothed to my car nicely .. I passed the I A M 20yrs ago . Loved it .
Our traffic lights here in Oz stay on amber for twice as long as those in the UK. We also have advanced warning lights about 100m before the actual traffic lights which start flashing to warn drivers that the main traffic lights ahead are going to change.
These delivery scooters are a blight. They have no interest in becoming licenced motorcyclists; rather, they just get the bare minimum CBT with no interest for their or anyone else's saftey. They will force the CBT to be changed in the end. As someone on two wheels, it makes me sick how many times a week I see these idiots causing no end of misery on our roads.
CBT rules just need to be enforced harder. The current "learner" mentality gives them too much leeway imo. The moment you cracked down on making sure they have business insurance, points for not having their CBT on them, and invalidating said CBT over dangerous driving the better. Half the clips you see aren't "learner mistakes", they're simple L plate and CBT abuse.
Ive spent a lot of time in Liverpool and drove around a lot of the city as a experienced driver when I had a job in the area but I have to say I wouldn’t have wanted to take my driving lessons and test there. Credit to all your students. I learned to drive in a small town in Leicestershire before I moved to Lincolnshire but I never had to go on duel carriageways or duel lane roads simply because we didn’t have them where I passed my test. It does make me wonder though how is the test fair when I managed to pass in a area with very small road a little traffic compared to a busy city like Liverpool.
if a student uses your car to take their test, are cameras allowed to record? if so are you allowed to use the recording as evidence against the testers decision?
No, you can't record during a test
dash camera's i think are allowed. but no internal filming. and when you say evidence against the testers decision. what the hell does that mean. they don't just fail people without good reason. own up to your mistake and try again.
@@TheWeepingDalek own up to what mistake? Years ago dash cams never existed so it's a genuine question.
@@allothernamesbutthis you are asking a question can you use it as evidence against tester decision. Testers aren't failing people for no reason. So i question why you need to challenge their decision in the 1st place
@@TheWeepingDalek if I took my test in a car with cameras and failed then obviously I would want to see that failure in video to agree or disagree with the tester. Years ago there were old folk tails only x amount were passed each day so getting a morning slot was more desirable.
I like how you've highlighted flashing in the last clip. I've had a few times where someone in your position has been flashed and just emerged due to the flash while I've been that car coming the other way and had to brake very harshly to avoid an accident. Wishing more people would see this and examine the junction thoroughly on their own judgement rather than someone else's.
I've said a few times, the only circumstance I'll flash someone in on is if it is slow traffic, they are turning directly into my lane without crossing any lanes, (I.E. a left turn in the UK) and I am starting to fall back to create a gap for them. the flash just gets their attention, and they can read the rest from me creating the gap.
@@kenbrown2808 Maybe I'm a dick but I don't even flash in that instance. I'll leave a gap for someone to come out if I'm stopping/in super slow traffic anyway, and if they aren't paying enough attention to take advantage, that's on them 😛
@@jakerockznoodles i don't always flash in that circumstance, either. I also don't always give a gap. What i do consistently do is give a triple flash to warn an oncoming driver they are coming into unseen danger.
were you able to see what was going on and think that maybe you also could slow and let them out?
Yesterday I was overtaken by three dirt bikes. One was centimetres away from my mirror...Two were popping wheelies...None of them had a Reg plate. I wish I had a dashcam it would have been a great addition to this compilation lol. Great video again as always mate 👍
In Clip 12 you gave the same response that I would have done. I used to beep a lot in the car but through watching your channel I think I'm calmer now than I used to be
Creative interpretation of the traffic light by the cyclist at 7:41.
I passed my test in Huddersfield about a month ago (thanks in part to these videos) but also started a new job in Walton the next day. I'm dreading the day I end up in one of these videos. The road at 6:30 is where I work!
clip 2 they should have waited for the green light. if only we were allowed to proceed on a red after stopping if it is safe to do so. too many lights are poorly timed when no traffic is about.
People who use their phones while driving should just be straight up banned from driving (Unless the phone is being used for a genuine emergency) and the police, should they witness a phone user, should have the power to issue a driving ban right there and then at the roadside. Gets them off the road as soon as possible.
Interesting question Ashley in Clip 13 about ambulances claiming exemptions without blue lights and sirens. There is no legal connection between claiming exemptions and using blue lights and sirens (which are themselves exemptions, other vehicles are prohibited from using them, but emergency vehicles are exempt from that prohibition). For each exemption an emergency vehicle claims, the driver must be able to reasonably justify that observing that prohibition would "be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for that (ambulance) purpose".
Claiming an exemption without using blue lights and sirens is common for the police, for example an unmarked car following a suspect vehicle, and using the emergency equipment would draw their attention to the fact they're being followed. It's seldom justifiable for ambulance purposes, but one example could be they were transporting a patient in significant pain, in the driver could justify the exemption because avoiding firm braking for the traffic light would avoid the patient suffering additional discomfort.
11:19 good spot by the car on the left. She really was close to being taken out there. As a cyclist, it's important to not cross lights if you have any idea that the cars may suddenly move off. At least try and get eye contact first with the drivers. Often the ped (and cycle) lights are a guide to when can cross safely. Wait if they are not on green.
I agree that as a cyclist crossing there it pays to be more cautious, but the priority in this situation is not clear cut. There’s no “beg button”for the cyclist, and only a give way on entering the first lane. No give way at the island, yet the cars have a solid “stop” line to cross. I would put priority more towards the cyclist in this situation, but advise not to cross at such a speed, as drivers in the UK are still getting used to the new Highway Code rules.
'Try and resist that temptation to teach them a lesson' good job I don't have Magneto's powers then (daydreamed that a lot) as most of them would be on top of walls etc or various mechanical failures would magically happen.
10:00 Emergency services can't. The reason they have a steady burn blue LED on the rear when on a blue light run is so the speed camera control room can see that this is the case.
The speed / traffic light camera will sometimes take a picture during the split second when the LED emergency light bar is switching between left and right light units, resulting in it looking like there aren't any lights on.
No emergency vehicles can only claim an exemption to red lights (to be treated as a give way sign) when on an emergency call. at all other times they must follow the same rules as everyone else.
But they can claim exemptions without the blue lights on (unlikely for an ambulance but still possible
@@conorlanders8401 my understanding is if it not an emergency, only a police officer may give an exemption. now what if the ambulance driver was a special constable. he could potentially give himself an exemption, as they have the same powers as a regular constable.
@@richcreedy4118 if its not an emergency then the exemptions do not apply. The exemptions can apply however without the use of lights or sirens. It's very unlikely for the ambulance or fire service but the police may commandeer viechles for police purposes which don't have lights or sirens but the exemptions would still apply to them whilst being used for police purposes.
When I was young (16) I did work experience in an ambulance, not for emergencies but for patient transport, and when doing patient transport you obviously don't have your blues and twos on, but when you have a patient on board in a bed sometimes breaking hard can be problematic so I was told its sometimes better to not break sharply if you can avoid it. However, looking at the clip at 9:55 its clear the ambulance had clear time to slow down and no obstructions, such as a lorry, to obscure their view of the lights so I am with you that was a disgrace.
I need a dash cam, I saw a very similar situation to the delivery cyclist only yesterday in Sutton-in-Ashfield. But with a far more satisfying outcome. Cyclist flew past cars at lights to be at the front of queue (they had just turned green), pulled a wheely for a good 100 yards. Police car pulls up to the junction their about to pass, the cyclist jams its breaks on, comes out of the wheely, and almost in slow motion the back wheel slowly raises off the road, getting higher and higher off the ground and they flip over the handle bars and land directly in front of the Police.
Turning right at traffic light junctions. You can fit two in and sometimes three etc. Years ago a friend of mine was on a Lambretta with his brother turning right at a big junction. The brother, riding pillion had a bit of cramp put his feet on the tarmac and did a stretch. My friend saw a gap shot off round the corner leaving his brother stood bow legged in the middle of the junction with drivers hooting at him.
Remember one Police programme they followed a driver undercutting, speeding, jumping lights for five miles.....they were only going to Tesco's. 😜
@RoseTintedWindscreen Might have been going out of date discount time.
Great video as usual. As a long time driver (40+ yrs) I get a lot of good info from these videos. Especially as law and advice changes not to mention the ever increasing volume of traffic and the governments drive to reduce unemployment by encouraging more cyclists. (That was a joke BTW 😂 ). I do have one question: On new vehicles why are indicators generally becoming smaller and harder to see, especially if brake lights are on? I notice many German cars are using animated indicators whilst being highly visible seem to be a little bit distracting.
Interesting with clip 14 that the ambulance didn't use its lights etc. to emerge, unless it was just very lucky timing that they got a call straight after
The white nissan was different to the silver renault though not too meaningfully. The nissan (albeit in the cyclist box) was still not in the junction when they decided to clear through the red. The Renault was in the junction when they decided to clear perhaps they deemed their position to be obstructive if they were to remain (though it doesn't particularly look like it).
I was driving an artic along a narrow road in west London yesterday which goes through a junction where just enough space is left to get between a traffic island and a row of parked cars as long as nobody blocks it, and there was an Amazon van just like the one in your opening clip, blocking the left side of the exit from a junction. A car could have got through the gap; I couldn't have done. He was on a double yellow line; not sure how long he'd been there. I had to go the wrong side of the island to get past him, it was either that or block the junction or the road behind me while waiting for him to come back and move.
Ash - Clip 10 (7:52) the signal was made even though no other road user or pedestrian would be affected by your presence. Can you tell me why the signal was made anyway please?
And Clip 12 (9:28), I'll put a months' wages on that van having Bluetooth hands-free fitted as standard. I've no idea why people prefer to hold the phone up to their ear.
Clip 13, emergency vehicles CAN use exemptions without lights or sirens but it must be for the purpose they are responding to and depends on the level of training they have (for example, police drivers might have "A to B" only / response / advanced). In the case of his clip though it's impossible to tell if they were just lazy and didn't want to stop, or actually using exemption for a purpose.
I like how you teach positive usage of the horn. It's something I do more now and has handled a couple of developing situations before they became an issue (like you described with the cyclist).
The use of exemptions for emergency service vehicles is applied all the time. I was always taught exemptions should only be used when absolutely necessary (ie when travelling under normal road conditions act like any other vehicle on the road).
However if you have a patient on board and a sudden jolt for braking hard could cause more harm than good (broken bones/spine) then going through a yellow/red light was normal practise.
I think for mobile phone use it should be an instant ban, because you have to consciously make that poor choice and it's seen FAR too often.
Sunday morning, so time for a little tongue in cheek - Delivery riders in your area. Of course, you must give them priority, the pizza is getting cold. Why pass them at 1.5m, the customer ordered a super-sized American family one and expect it delivered in one piece. The wheelie over the bridge - the customer ordered hot wings! [soz Ash couldn't resist]
About clip 15 I seen a similar situation on a dash cam clip…the car noticed what the other car was doing. But instead of slowing down they just kept the same speed beeped their horn..and it resulted in a crash 🤷♂️ it was on a three lane motorway after a roundabout where it was going to merge back into two lanes.
Ashley your Liverpool vids are giving me an idea of what to expect tomorrow 11.07.22, I'm a HGV driver and my places in the morning are Scunthorpe-Wakefield-Manchester then Liverpool, it'll be my first time in Liverpool (and Scunthorpe) but I now know to bring an extra set of eyes.
Ashley I liked your reaction on the last clip, can you let us know how how the bemused look lasted for?? As for phone use while driving; completely agree. I suggest the current penalties remain in place but are added to by seizing of vehicle and phone for 7 days for first offence, doubling for each subsequent offence e.g 7 days then 14 days then 28 days. Plus the costs of recovery and storage. Offences only drop off the record after 5 years.
Thank you for another great video, Ash.
I keep learning new things I can get away with while driving! :)
I know you don't report people and I'm similar, but that S3 driving was so lethal (as you say) that it's worth reporting to try and change their behaviour through consequence, as they aren't the sort to come on RUclips and watch driver education channels.
If you know Liverpool (and probably most major cities) you would realise how futile reporting a vehicle like this actually is.
@@ashley_neal Fair enough as I've only dealt with the Met in London and they are pretty good at taking swift action, and with online reporting it takes very little time to submit. Merseyside Police has the same online reporting tool so I'd hope they'd treat it similarly but admittedly I've no experience with that force. The downside is we have road users that take this ease of reporting too far and report every minutiae, spamming the crap out of them, but from a Met perspective if you're reporting clearly dangerous driving like this then it is typically given the attention it deserves.
@@ashley_neal futile or not - it is important to keep reporting.
Not lethal, it's an Audi s3. It's stupid, careless and dangerous but it was not lethal. He could have easily have done the preemptive checks before he overtook, granted we can assume he was massively over the speed limit however when we look at the facts of what actually happened - how lethal was this in reality? It's a car with immense acceleration, quite easy for him to do overtakes like this without it being lethal (albeit dangerous and dumb)
@@mcshartypants not lethal until literally any hazard presents itself and then potentially very
Brilliant as usual. Why are provisional licence holders allowed to ride for hire and reward as the standards are very poor in south Birmingham
The Emergency services still have to stop like anyone else; if and only if they have their lights and sirens on then a lights junction is treated as a give way by them and only them.
11:21 that was really well handled by your pupil there.
Gets worse in Birmingham, where you have delivery riders on E-bikes that are effectively electric mopeds. Time and time again i've watched a rider zooming uphill on a bike and the pedals aren't moving. That's before you look at the generally woeful quality of drivers there. Being a lorry driver doing city runs is testing to say the least. Almost makes you miss the ease of sitting brain dead in lane 1 of the motorway (except the M6 between J4 and J10A) and not having to worry about anything more than traffic holdups.
That abulance should have stopped. But although the lights weren't on, there could be a patient in the back. Sometimes, the other paramedic might be standing or no seatbelt on to give first aid or assistance. I don't believe they're meant to do this, but it might explain why the ambulance didn't want to brake for the light as it changed.
I absolutely agree with this.
They do tell you though, even if the light is green, to be prepared to stop - but there is a point of no return, where it's just safer for everyone to continue, and I'd say that Ambulance was in that window - the lights seemed to change pretty fast, 4 seconds of video between green and the ambulance 'jumping' the red light.. I'm not sure they should be a 'disgrace' for the reasons you mention, but maybe a little extra training in preparing for things to change..
I had someone flash to let me out at a junction on my bike the other day. There were several cars coming from the other direction, and I had no interest in trying to rush to get across. They waited for ages, to the point the driver behind was getting annoyed with them.
Honestly, I appreciate motorists trying to help me out on my bike on busy roads and intersections, but the best way you can do that is drive predictably and carefully. Then I can sort myself out around you.
(And no comment on some of the cycling in this video... I'll never understand people being so carefree with their own safety)
7:35 - loving those Disco lights on that 4x4!
Everywhere you go the roads are an absolute joke, with annual casualties in the hundreds of thousands and KSI in the tens of thousands.
I'm starting to think we should have more regular PSA's and introduce mandatory, periodic re-testing for driving licenses. Or better yet, pedestrianise city centres and invest in public transport.
It's just so frustrating that this "f*** you, got mine" attitude continues to cause problems year after year with nothing being done about it. 17-year-old kid on a moped got killed near where I live the other day, by some moron in a 4x4 who decided to overtake on a blind bend, for what? This is costing lives and it simply should not be happening.
Ashley's laugh should be classed as a hazard. Everytime I hear him laugh I feel the need to clear my lungs with a good laugh too haha. Amazing
A bit late to this one, but on the 'phone use whilst driving' point: Yes, penalty definitely needs to be increased. And really important to report, even if nothing is done. At least then you can ask the question, 'Why is nothing being done?' If no one reports nothing will ever change.
Im on the road all the time like you Ashley, sadly good drivers are becoming a rare breed just even obeying lights, road markings are becoming impossible. On the car reversing out i was taught never to reverse onto a main road. But check out field lane one way, no longer one way for more drivers than it should it be.
The silver Megane was past the stop line so no longer under control of that light. The Juke was not.
Wow, what a collection! 😯
That Audi at 00:14 seconds in was horrendous.
In Belfast someone's recently sold a few Deliveroo riders electric bicycles, I've seen a few close calls at traffic lights as they use the power to move between cars at the last minute.
Unrelated question about 13:00, if your traveling in the opposite direction of the silver car and need to turn right, how would you check for oncoming traffic? I get that at this particular corner junction in the video you may be able to see around the bend, but I’ve seen other junctions where beyond the corner is not visible, and I just don’t find them confusing.
With the last one I can't believe he got offended because you did the right thing but then I remembered he isn't the first one to get offended on one of your videos
On a separate note I did have to educate my parents of all people yesterday about a BMW doing the correct thing by merging in turn approaching the old Severn Bridge as they thought they were queue jumping!
Did the driver who flashed misinterpret Ash's pointing to the left as "Ash wants to turn left" and his offended/amazed look is for the fact Ash's car is indicating to turn right? As Ash says, you never really know what the other person is thinking or their point of view, nor do they have the full picture. Ash's car gave the most information for what was going on (indicating right and not moving).
I go through this discussion with my family every damn time about merging in turn when they say "should have got in lane sooner, they should not be let in" and it is always at the same location between two junctions when ever the road works go up for tree cutting, resurfacing etc etc
The road is about half a mile between the two junctions and if the road works are closer to the second junction it's no so much of an issue but the further back they are when people are not using both lane it causes all sorts of issues for the junction behind because you know people will sit in that junction because they failed to read the road and combined with the idiots that will block both lanes to teach people a lesson to not "overtake" in that second lane it becomes a cluster f.
Merge in turns do work incredibly well when people do it properly and not competing to beat the other drivers, If using both lanes is going to go towards preventing a tail back before the previous junction then everyone wins as they will spend less time in the traffic caused by the road works.
Starting to sound like a broken record at this point to be honest.
Once I finally get a dash cam sorted, I’ll unleash some some Isle of Wight lunacy, sadly missed the road rage and resultant crowbar pull 😂 ever over this way learn to play the banjo! A1 content as ever ash 👌
As far as I understand it. Emergency vehicles are only exempt from traffic laws when they have their blue lights on. Otherwise other road users won't get the warning. I remember seeing a police programme where they had to fit new blue lights to the cars because the speed cameras caught them at the slight instant when the flash was off, thus resulting in the police being done for speeding.
That being said I do see a lot of ambulance drivers breaking traffic laws when not on an emergency. It annoys me if they shouldn't be exempt in this case.
In clip 14, why would the driver wait to use the blues until after he's emerged? Wouldn't people be more likely to let him out if the lights were already flashing?
There could be a number of reasons but a couple of examples would be; they might have still been taking details of the call and deciding whether or not to use the blues when they emerged. Or not been called at all until after they'd emerged
I reckon a small ban period from driving for using mobile phone. If you rely on your car for work it would be more of a detterent!
Think it was clip 14 with the ambulance. That was what I would call a tactically perfect piece of driving. Absolutely 10 out of 10 for that. Everyone take note 👍👍👍
Clip 7, people reversing out onto roads really gets my goat. 🐐
In all fairness it takes mad skills to pull off a wheelie on a bicycle.
in clip 12 the van driver was on the phone and didn't slow down for the roundabout , the camera car had to take an emergency action which was well performed , but could the driver not have anticipated the van better as he showed no signs of braking in the approach to the roundabout.
I had something similar when being let out from a junction on my motorbike. A lorry had pulled into the centre of the road to turn right but needed the extra space where I was sat waiting to turn right onto a main road. He flashed me to let me out but I did not go straight away as I had noticed that a car was pulling along their near side so I had to hang back for a second. The lorry driver did realise was I was doing and just waited a little longer but the lorry driver did have that brief look of "why are you not going?" before seeing what was happening XD
Totally agree regarding phone usage whilst driving..its getting worst ! The fine what is in place is obviously not working.
I like your dashcam setup ,and a magic kodak button!
by far, my fave content on youtube!
Re the last but one clip about giving a “toot” to warn the driver on the left about the cyclist crossing from the right. How many times have we seen (or been) drivers not paying attention and sitting at a traffic light that’s turned green, do a knee-jerk reaction to being tooted by driving away? Isn’t there a risk of that “Warning toot” triggering the “drive off response” and actually causing the car to collide with the cyclist?
9:28 amen! 6 points and £200 is nothing considering the chances of being caught is low