Lord of illusions is a underrated gem of a movie and I hope that the directors cut comes out. Clive barker is a master of horror and the three movies he did definitely helped horror movies for years to come.
All three films are extremely underrated. I like his in and out approach to his filmmaking. I think he realized that writing is alot better than directing. Less meddling. That's the main reason he stopped directing.
Nightbreed is my favorite movie, I don't understand why a lot of people don't know about this movie, it's crazy. First monster movie to make me cry and have sympathy for the monsters. This movie made me fall in love with horror
It is, but it's also a film that (even in the Director's cut) was never fully realised. Most of the material was there in the script but the studio changed the core of what that film was about.
Lord of Illusions is a wonderful movie as well as Hellraiser and Nightbreed but Lord of Illusions also reminds me of a 1991 movie called The Resurrected with Chris Sarandon
I absolutely revere this man. All three movies are my long-time faves, and I have a full bookshelf. There is always something sooo unique you never mix his movie for anybody else's.
@@Cabal-ms3kb I read the scarlet gospels and had very mixed feelings about it. My favourite Barker is The Damnation Game. If I’m not reading it I’m listening to it. Shame they never made a film of it. 😊 I must read more 👌
@@DarkEchoesHorror I really enjoyed Coldheart Canyon too. Man I liked Scarlet Gospels. The tone was a bit off and I heard there was a ghost-writer for most of it, but I'm a big concept guy and Pinhead trying to fight Lucifer to take over hell was just......neat :) Damnation Game was the one with the gambler, ya?
NIGHTBREED is awesome. My favourite film. Absolute perfection 😍 There is a longer version out there, THE ULTIMATE CABAL CUT - containing all known existing and restored footage (3hrs 19mins) - even MORE NIGHTBREED!! It makes the previous versions seem like teaser trailers. Theatrical Cut - 1hr 41mins Director’s Cut - 2hrs 00mins Integral Cut - 2hrs 13mins Leaked Cabal Cut - 2hrs 25mins Official Cabal Cut - 2hrs 25mins (different footage to the leaked version) ULTIMATE CABAL CUT - 3hrs 19mins You can find it. But they’ll only take you if you’re worthy. No maps. North of Athabasca, East of Peace River, North of Dwyer…
I wish Clive Barker would direct a A24 movie, his creativity in the air support of a strangeness would really make for something interesting and special
Lord of illusions is one of those movies that while it may have not been executed perfectly, the idea is so good it makes you love it bc you know what the director was going for.
After all these years of hearing about the cuts to Hellraiser that have yet to surface, I’ve always found myself oddly fascinated by this “spanking” part 😂
There was another movie called "Dread", I believe. It was about two university students who set up a "social experiment", which goes WAY wrong. Barker's name was attached to it but I don't know how much he was involved. And, as usual, I have no citation for this.
Dread is name of one of his most engrossing of his short stories. To be found in his "book of blood" .It is indeed about a horryfing experiment by one university student on another.
I LOVE LORD OF ILLUSIONS.... i was soooo lucky to get to see it at the movies when it first came out...... now having said that... what i would love to see happen with this film which i strongly believe would enable it to be brought back to the cinema for a re-evaluation - RE DO THE CGI EFFECTS.... just like what Lucas did with chapter 4,5 and 6.... the cgi in Lord of Illusions is the only thing that prevents it being a masterpiece and i don't think it would be that hard to give them an upgrade
I hope Scream Factory does a 4K update for Lord of Illusions given the fact that their blu ray is out of print. I will have to get the Nightbreed update from them for 4K. Have any of you bought that one? Barker did a great job with his 3 feature theatrical releases. I wish he'd do one last movie before he gets too old, but I doubt it will come to pass given the present situation in the international film industry and his health issues. I also wish that arrow video would do a US blu ray release for Hellraiser 3.
"Nightbreed" is iconic. A fantastic film with a wonderfully strange mythos. Interestingly, I'm curious if Barker got that title from Richard Ramirez "the Night Stalker." In a speech given by Ramirez, he uses the term "nightbreed." A fascinating connection.
i rewatch Lord of Illusions like maybe once or twice a year. few months ago when i rewatched it last it found out Butterflied is the same dude from return of the living dead 3 and it blew my mind. also i used to think Famke Janssen was absolutely beautiful i recently watched Kights of the Zodiac and she looks like Courteney Cox got stung in the face by a bee. she looks terrible and it makes me so so sad.
Clive Barker wrote harry d'amour as his self insert character - and he was in deep with neil gaiman [I think they still might be besties] and there was a lot of talk about constantine, and I always got the idea from harry d'amour that he's how barker saw constantine - ie who he would be if he'd been a barker construct [American Gods for example is very similar to The Damnation game - it's two great authors spitballing ideas and going in different directions from the same simple premise] but there's always a but with barker Barker might be the very best horror writer alive right now, and also the worst. His work swings wildly and there is no middle ground, you never have someone go "oh that was an okay story" it was either "amazing" or "terrible" and it's true, he doesn't see himself as a horror writer but instead a fantasist and explores worlds rather than threats, there's a physicality and bodily aware in ways others aren't. He's not writing about kings and queens, but instead world hopping in ways that inspired Philip Pullman the hellbound heart [Hellraiser], and Cabal are both very good, as is the Forbidden [Candyman] as is Rawhead Rex and The midnight meat train - but for every one of those is there is a mister b gone or a galilee where they are unfinished and bloated and need a good edit and rewrite - something like Coldheart Canyon has brilliant sequences but most of it is - is meh you absolutely can and should read his work, but even in the Harry D'Amour stuff it's very uneven - I can't say read his work without that codicil I liked the Lord of Illusions and its - you can't follow Candyman with a dark fantasy noir and expect it to work, bad timing
Lord of Illusion's biggest flaw if the prologue removes the mystery. It puts the audience in position of knowing more than D'Amour for most of the film. If the prologue was moved to later in the film as a flashback it would have worked much better IMO
Omg. Boon was in the only hellraiser movie that came out after the second that i kind of like. He was a detective too, and ooooh. Harry D'mour! Holy fuck, that movie had a lot of potential to be good. He could have played Harry who is a friend that knows and kind of understands the hidden magic world and stuff. He's a pretty open guy when thinking of what's possibly. Anyway it's kind of an okay movie. But they could have kept everyone involved but maybe... ask Clive Barker for... not what he thinks about it, but what creative input to shape it. And it could have been a great movie and didn't have to change much. Just the tone and dialogue and maybe everything i guess. Lol. I'm saying it could have been a good movie if it was different. That's like saying it could have been good if it didn't exist
Lord of elusions should have been the sequel to Angel heart that movie is iconic Mickey Rourke was awesome Scott bakula and this movie could have been widely popular and received because of how it was.
It's a big miss on your side that you haven't read some of the Clive books and comics. For example, his anthology comics (I'm talking about the original Hellraiser comics series) are the real Hellraiser heart, because they are a mythology that explains the genesis of Hellraiser and it is far better than the movies. For me, only Hellraiser Original and Hellraiser: Bloodline are good movies. The others are more exploitation of the idea because of money, but no soul is invested. And the books. Especially the second Hellraiser book: "Scarlet Gospel" where the present material relates because the main character in that book is your exorcist Harry D'amour who is the main character in "the illusionist". And it's just an amazing book for it reveals another of Mr. D'amour's many adventures but this one in "Scarlet Gospel" is the greatest.
I’ve been tempted to get the 4k of nightbreed, but the packaging on the collectors blu is just so good, that I don’t know if I want to replace it on the shelf
I watched this in the theater. And yeah. I remember it being pretty empty for it. But i was 15 and read all his books by then and nobody stopped kids from watching tasted R movies... fuck. I started writing this when watching the same channels video about kids of illusion.
I was born in 81 and my mom loved horror movies. To the point where most kids get indoctrinated into whatever religion there parents believe, I was indoctrinated into horror films. I literally knew about the fictional character called pin head before the much later trauma I experienced in my mid teens that adults aren't lying about their belief in whichever God, they actually believe it. And that's when my depression hit... didn't know how to live in a world that thinks fake is real... it's been thirty years since I had that thought and I still don't know how to exist except to not say what I think. Maybe it's better to think this is the beginning of our lives when we die? That's way more comfortable then spending the years I did in terror, learning how the brain works, endorphins and such. They basically emotion is chemical structure that gets released into... shit... I'm have to write a lot of I go there. But it made sense to me and still does. But then I realized adults think gods are real and I've been mind fucked since. I'm forty now, tried to figure which God might be real but the mono gods say all the other gods don't exist, but then there's religion with many gods existing... sometimes fighting each other. It was hard for me to think it's real as a child. Even harder today. Anyway, I read a lot of Clive Barker's books. And even read a few of them more than thrice. Weave world and Imajica... especially imajica... anyway, I wasn't disappointed watching Lord of illusion... no movie he's made or is based on his books come close to his books. And seriously, I don't think I've ever had an issue with my sexuality or others because I read his books. I'm fact I learned he was gay after reading many because he dedicated the book to the love of his life and I thought... "He's gay?... holy shit, that kinda explains a lot! Awesome!"
Please stop with these flippant "Instant Classic" claims. It's so arbitrary and mostly just untrue hyperbole just to get clicks. In Clive Barker's case only Hellraiser is what you would call an "instant classic". It changed the landscape of horror and was uniquely terrifying. Nightbreed would be considered an "overlooked and forgotten cult classic". It undeservedly flopped hard. I was underage so I begged my older sister to take me on opening weekend and we were the only people in the theater. I loved it but the majority did not think so until more recent re-evaluations. Lord of Illusions is interesting but messy and not nearly as creatively successful as Barker's first two efforts. Yes, studio interference hobbled both Nightbreed and Lord of Illusions from being actual classics but they are wildly entertaining nonetheless. However, Hellraiser and (although he didn't direct) Hellbound: Hellraiser II are the jewels in Clive's crown.
Oh yeah you were also forgot the chill factor even though he’s in it for about five minutes he does a good job man that that’s your factor. I love that movie that’s I like that skill rich Cuba, Gooding, Junior movie, though I like that to kind of body type of movie they don’t Julie do those kind of movies anymore it’s a big big fan of my collection, but no Kevin O’Connor is only in it for a few minutes at that chill factor man that chemicals just like napalm Mike melts away your flesh. He was only in it for a few minutes. He did a good job and that one I forgot that one but a lot of people kind of don’t like that’s not really a horror movie but it’s a good thriller movie though I like it.
Holy hell... not to ruin things... and it kind of sounds like clive intentionally was trying to destroy what the movies made pin head into... he wrote a comic that behind with Harry taking over pin heads position... he's such a good detective he ended up in charge of.... well, it was never supposed to be hell exactly.
If Mr Barker is listening to this, please make a nightbreed 2 I remember as a kid watching the film at the cinema. The original one the thing which was apparent to me at the end of the film there was more to tell the story was so rich and vibrant. Beyond my imagination he is a fantastic writer and director. I have always enjoyed his films
Lord of illusions is a underrated gem of a movie and I hope that the directors cut comes out. Clive barker is a master of horror and the three movies he did definitely helped horror movies for years to come.
All three films are extremely underrated. I like his in and out approach to his filmmaking. I think he realized that writing is alot better than directing. Less meddling. That's the main reason he stopped directing.
“Lord of illusions” was awesome 👏 remember something behind the scene 🎬 about cgi trapezoid man was a first in something.
Forgot about "Lord of illusions." Awesome movie.
Nightbreed is my favorite movie, I don't understand why a lot of people don't know about this movie, it's crazy. First monster movie to make me cry and have sympathy for the monsters. This movie made me fall in love with horror
Little monsters came out a year before and had sympathy for monsters
Great movies. Lord of ilusions is a very well constructed film.
Nightbreed is underrated
Yep.
Is it underrated or has no one just seen it?
😄
I have the Arrow films blu ray with the directors cut in it.
It is very good film indeed.
Something a Cronenberg Chad would say.
It is, but it's also a film that (even in the Director's cut) was never fully realised.
Most of the material was there in the script but the studio changed the core of what that film was about.
@@RerememBereringRedundant if you grew up absorbed in Brittish horror novels.
Lord of Illusions is a wonderful movie as well as Hellraiser and Nightbreed but Lord of Illusions also reminds me of a 1991 movie called The Resurrected with Chris Sarandon
I absolutely revere this man. All three movies are my long-time faves, and I have a full bookshelf. There is always something sooo unique you never mix his movie for anybody else's.
Agreed, all 3 are masterpieces, shame Lord Of Illusions is so hard to get a good copy of. it so needs a really good boutique remaster.
Clive Barker’s work is just stunning. Getting Cabal Cut next for sure 😊
Love me some Imajica. The Scarlet Gospels was cool as hell too
The Cabal Cut is good (both versions), but The Ultimate Cabal Cut is what you want 😉
It’s out there. You can find it.
@@colinrobinson4233 bring on payday 😊 thanks buddy
@@Cabal-ms3kb I read the scarlet gospels and had very mixed feelings about it. My favourite Barker is The Damnation Game. If I’m not reading it I’m listening to it. Shame they never made a film of it. 😊 I must read more 👌
@@DarkEchoesHorror I really enjoyed Coldheart Canyon too. Man I liked Scarlet Gospels. The tone was a bit off and I heard there was a ghost-writer for most of it, but I'm a big concept guy and Pinhead trying to fight Lucifer to take over hell was just......neat :) Damnation Game was the one with the gambler, ya?
So happy I've met Doug Bradley. A photo of me with with him holding up my Hellraiser box signed by him is great. :)
I hope the hellraiser tv series and nightbreed tv series gets made one day hopefully 🙏
NIGHTBREED is awesome.
My favourite film.
Absolute perfection 😍
There is a longer version out there, THE ULTIMATE CABAL CUT - containing all known existing and restored footage (3hrs 19mins) - even MORE NIGHTBREED!!
It makes the previous versions seem like teaser trailers.
Theatrical Cut - 1hr 41mins
Director’s Cut - 2hrs 00mins
Integral Cut - 2hrs 13mins
Leaked Cabal Cut - 2hrs 25mins
Official Cabal Cut - 2hrs 25mins (different footage to the leaked version)
ULTIMATE CABAL CUT - 3hrs 19mins
You can find it.
But they’ll only take you if you’re worthy.
No maps.
North of Athabasca, East of Peace River, North of Dwyer…
I love Night Breed, I even have a Decker Mask that I wear every Halloween.
I wish Clive Barker would direct a A24 movie, his creativity in the air support of a strangeness would really make for something interesting and special
Watched it repeatedly when I was 12-13 loved it. Nix was awesome!
Lord of illusions is one of those movies that while it may have not been executed perfectly, the idea is so good it makes you love it bc you know what the director was going for.
You're all doing yourselves a disservice not reading his books, Barker is a literary horror GOAT.
Hellraiser 1 & 2 are Awesome 😈👍
I saw LOI in the theatre when it came out, it was great, definitely need to revisit that
LORD OF ILLUSIONS is my favorite out of the three!
After all these years of hearing about the cuts to Hellraiser that have yet to surface, I’ve always found myself oddly fascinated by this “spanking” part 😂
He featured Harry in a few books. I loved it was being played by the quantum leap guy
I want a sequel to Clive Barker’s Jericho. He ended the game on a cliffhanger. So frustrating.
Are we going to ignore that Kevin O'Connor was in Steel Magnolias? And that one of the furniture movers in Hellraiser is Peloquin in Nightbreed?
And Peggy Sue got Married.
The dish ran away with the spoon.
It sucks that he couldn't direct more movies
Agreed
Recently acquired a copy of Night Breed that I haven't watched yet. My favorite so far in Lord of Illusions. I absolutely love that movie.
Lord of illusions is a cool movie.
Pray🤲🏻🙏🏻for a re-release BluRay or scream factory will do a 4K UHD release. For Lord Of Illusions.
There was another movie called "Dread", I believe. It was about two university students who set up a "social experiment", which goes WAY wrong. Barker's name was attached to it but I don't know how much he was involved. And, as usual, I have no citation for this.
Dread is name of one of his most engrossing of his short stories. To be found in his "book of blood" .It is indeed about a horryfing experiment by one university student on another.
Loved this movie I have the DVD...since remakes seem to be the thing now a remake would be cool.
Read some of his books man. They're great.
I LOVE LORD OF ILLUSIONS.... i was soooo lucky to get to see it at the movies when it first came out...... now having said that... what i would love to see happen with this film which i strongly believe would enable it to be brought back to the cinema for a re-evaluation - RE DO THE CGI EFFECTS.... just like what Lucas did with chapter 4,5 and 6.... the cgi in Lord of Illusions is the only thing that prevents it being a masterpiece and i don't think it would be that hard to give them an upgrade
I hope Scream Factory does a 4K update for Lord of Illusions given the fact that their blu ray is out of print. I will have to get the Nightbreed update from them for 4K. Have any of you bought that one?
Barker did a great job with his 3 feature theatrical releases. I wish he'd do one last movie before he gets too old, but I doubt it will come to pass given the present situation in the international film industry and his health issues.
I also wish that arrow video would do a US blu ray release for Hellraiser 3.
I actually liked how it ended with Decker and the Priest not knowing what cut I was watching,Clive was probably sick of the studio interference
I'd always hoped Barker would return to directing & do the SCARLET GOSPELS as a film.
I think lord of illusions is his best film
PREACH JoBlo!
Midnight meat train was a great movie
In my humble opinion, Nightbreed and Lords of Illusions are even better than Hellraiser. 👍
I got one of the few games clive made its called JERICO freaking insane game man legit hellraiser and a sadistic hel ! Great game homie
"Nightbreed" is iconic. A fantastic film with a wonderfully strange mythos. Interestingly, I'm curious if Barker got that title from Richard Ramirez "the Night Stalker." In a speech given by Ramirez, he uses the term "nightbreed." A fascinating connection.
Watching Nightbreed now
i rewatch Lord of Illusions like maybe once or twice a year. few months ago when i rewatched it last it found out Butterflied is the same dude from return of the living dead 3 and it blew my mind. also i used to think Famke Janssen was absolutely beautiful i recently watched Kights of the Zodiac and she looks like Courteney Cox got stung in the face by a bee. she looks terrible and it makes me so so sad.
Clive Barker wrote harry d'amour as his self insert character - and he was in deep with neil gaiman [I think they still might be besties] and there was a lot of talk about constantine, and I always got the idea from harry d'amour that he's how barker saw constantine - ie who he would be if he'd been a barker construct [American Gods for example is very similar to The Damnation game - it's two great authors spitballing ideas and going in different directions from the same simple premise]
but
there's always a but with barker
Barker might be the very best horror writer alive right now, and also the worst. His work swings wildly and there is no middle ground, you never have someone go "oh that was an okay story" it was either "amazing" or "terrible" and it's true, he doesn't see himself as a horror writer but instead a fantasist and explores worlds rather than threats, there's a physicality and bodily aware in ways others aren't. He's not writing about kings and queens, but instead world hopping in ways that inspired Philip Pullman
the hellbound heart [Hellraiser], and Cabal are both very good, as is the Forbidden [Candyman] as is Rawhead Rex and The midnight meat train - but for every one of those is there is a mister b gone or a galilee where they are unfinished and bloated and need a good edit and rewrite - something like Coldheart Canyon has brilliant sequences but most of it is - is meh
you absolutely can and should read his work, but even in the Harry D'Amour stuff it's very uneven - I can't say read his work without that codicil
I liked the Lord of Illusions and its - you can't follow Candyman with a dark fantasy noir and expect it to work, bad timing
The Director’s Cut is currently on RUclips free with ads if anyone is interested and hasn’t seen it.
A shame he didn’t do more movies
I liked Lord of Illusions better than Hellraiser.
Lord of Illusion needs the preferred cut like Nightbreed.
Nightbreed is so good and I still hope for a german DVD release for a normal price
Lord of Illusion's biggest flaw if the prologue removes the mystery. It puts the audience in position of knowing more than D'Amour for most of the film.
If the prologue was moved to later in the film as a flashback it would have worked much better IMO
Oh snap, here I am thinking he directed Rawhead Rex too.
Nightbreed rules
If Clive Barker had made a Hellboy movie, it would have been awesome. Bonus would be if he did a crossover with Nightbreed and Hellboy.
Omg. Boon was in the only hellraiser movie that came out after the second that i kind of like. He was a detective too, and ooooh. Harry D'mour! Holy fuck, that movie had a lot of potential to be good. He could have played Harry who is a friend that knows and kind of understands the hidden magic world and stuff. He's a pretty open guy when thinking of what's possibly. Anyway it's kind of an okay movie. But they could have kept everyone involved but maybe... ask Clive Barker for... not what he thinks about it, but what creative input to shape it. And it could have been a great movie and didn't have to change much. Just the tone and dialogue and maybe everything i guess. Lol. I'm saying it could have been a good movie if it was different. That's like saying it could have been good if it didn't exist
The Tribes of the Moon embrace you.
Lord of elusions should have been the sequel to Angel heart that movie is iconic Mickey Rourke was awesome Scott bakula and this movie could have been widely popular and received because of how it was.
Median is where the monsters live
It's a big miss on your side that you haven't read some of the Clive books and comics. For example, his anthology comics (I'm talking about the original Hellraiser comics series) are the real Hellraiser heart, because they are a mythology that explains the genesis of Hellraiser and it is far better than the movies. For me, only Hellraiser Original and Hellraiser: Bloodline are good movies. The others are more exploitation of the idea because of money, but no soul is invested.
And the books. Especially the second Hellraiser book: "Scarlet Gospel" where the present material relates because the main character in that book is your exorcist Harry D'amour who is the main character in "the illusionist". And it's just an amazing book for it reveals another of Mr. D'amour's many adventures but this one in "Scarlet Gospel" is the greatest.
I’ve been tempted to get the 4k of nightbreed, but the packaging on the collectors blu is just so good, that I don’t know if I want to replace it on the shelf
I watched this in the theater. And yeah. I remember it being pretty empty for it. But i was 15 and read all his books by then and nobody stopped kids from watching tasted R movies... fuck. I started writing this when watching the same channels video about kids of illusion.
I always assumed Clive Barker was an old man in a middle age man's body.
Instead he looks like a guy you would see on the cover of a romance novel..
If you think about spec scriptwriters selling their script only to have cenobites injected into it....ahh the sweet suffering
Wife beater has to be censored? Jesus. Qlso, the characters are also in the Scarlet Gospels, along with the Hellraiser characters
Well, one is.
I wouldn't take you back. We failed eachother.
I was born in 81 and my mom loved horror movies. To the point where most kids get indoctrinated into whatever religion there parents believe, I was indoctrinated into horror films. I literally knew about the fictional character called pin head before the much later trauma I experienced in my mid teens that adults aren't lying about their belief in whichever God, they actually believe it. And that's when my depression hit... didn't know how to live in a world that thinks fake is real... it's been thirty years since I had that thought and I still don't know how to exist except to not say what I think. Maybe it's better to think this is the beginning of our lives when we die? That's way more comfortable then spending the years I did in terror, learning how the brain works, endorphins and such. They basically emotion is chemical structure that gets released into... shit... I'm have to write a lot of I go there. But it made sense to me and still does. But then I realized adults think gods are real and I've been mind fucked since. I'm forty now, tried to figure which God might be real but the mono gods say all the other gods don't exist, but then there's religion with many gods existing... sometimes fighting each other. It was hard for me to think it's real as a child. Even harder today. Anyway, I read a lot of Clive Barker's books. And even read a few of them more than thrice. Weave world and Imajica... especially imajica... anyway, I wasn't disappointed watching Lord of illusion... no movie he's made or is based on his books come close to his books. And seriously, I don't think I've ever had an issue with my sexuality or others because I read his books. I'm fact I learned he was gay after reading many because he dedicated the book to the love of his life and I thought... "He's gay?... holy shit, that kinda explains a lot! Awesome!"
Please stop with these flippant "Instant Classic" claims. It's so arbitrary and mostly just untrue hyperbole just to get clicks. In Clive Barker's case only Hellraiser is what you would call an "instant classic". It changed the landscape of horror and was uniquely terrifying. Nightbreed would be considered an "overlooked and forgotten cult classic". It undeservedly flopped hard. I was underage so I begged my older sister to take me on opening weekend and we were the only people in the theater. I loved it but the majority did not think so until more recent re-evaluations. Lord of Illusions is interesting but messy and not nearly as creatively successful as Barker's first two efforts. Yes, studio interference hobbled both Nightbreed and Lord of Illusions from being actual classics but they are wildly entertaining nonetheless. However, Hellraiser and (although he didn't direct) Hellbound: Hellraiser II are the jewels in Clive's crown.
Oh yeah you were also forgot the chill factor even though he’s in it for about five minutes he does a good job man that that’s your factor. I love that movie that’s I like that skill rich Cuba, Gooding, Junior movie, though I like that to kind of body type of movie they don’t Julie do those kind of movies anymore it’s a big big fan of my collection, but no Kevin O’Connor is only in it for a few minutes at that chill factor man that chemicals just like napalm Mike melts away your flesh. He was only in it for a few minutes. He did a good job and that one I forgot that one but a lot of people kind of don’t like that’s not really a horror movie but it’s a good thriller movie though I like it.
Holy hell... not to ruin things... and it kind of sounds like clive intentionally was trying to destroy what the movies made pin head into... he wrote a comic that behind with Harry taking over pin heads position... he's such a good detective he ended up in charge of.... well, it was never supposed to be hell exactly.
If Mr Barker is listening to this, please make a nightbreed 2 I remember as a kid watching the film at the cinema. The original one the thing which was apparent to me at the end of the film there was more to tell the story was so rich and vibrant. Beyond my imagination he is a fantastic writer and director. I have always enjoyed his films
I'm gay...
Hellraiser is his only GOOD movie .
Yeah, one can wonder, films which are mediocre at best.
He is a much better and more articulated writer than S. King