Documento di immenso valore per chi come me ama Pollini e più volte lo ha sentito eseguire, dal vivo, questi capolavori. È il suo momento più grande nell'interpretazione di Schubert: sono passati alcuni (necessari) furori dei primi anni tesi a sbarazzarsi di un'immagine riduttiva del compositore, frammentista e solo lirica; tanto più profonde suonano ora le oasi di riflessione, le lunghe pause, il tono disteso dei momenti più cantabili, in un equilibrio miracoloso e forse unico. I tempi lenti della 959 e della 960 li trovo un vertice del pianismo novecentesco, da lui stesso non eguagliati nelle celebre e grande incisione discografica di due anni dopo.
Piano Sonata no. 19 in C minor, D. 958 00:00 1. Allegro 11:13 2. Adagio 19:19 3. Menuetto. Allegro 22:15 4. Allegro Piano Sonata no. 20 in A, D. 959 30:56 1. Allegro 45:00 2. Andantino 52:20 3. Scherzo. Allegro Vivace 56:50 4. Rondo. Allegretto Piano Sonata no. 21 in B-flat, D. 960 01:08:05 1. Molto Moderato 01:27:24 2. Andante Sostenuto 01:38:14 3. Scherzo. Allegro Vivace Con Delicatezza 01:42:11 4. Allegro Ma Non Troppo
These sonatas are truly amazing compositions for someone not yet 35 years of age. He certainly knew the late Beethoven. As Charles Rosen said B. was the springboard generated by the Classical era. If so, Schubert is the essence,at the very beginning, of the Romantic period. These sonatas are like hugely extended lieder with a sonata structure.
@@pianoplaynight I once arranged the 3rd movement of D960 for string trio for a thesis I wrote back in the day because of the symphonic textures in these last 3 sonatas. I must say it made the manuscript of each of these sonatas (not the actual published versions because they are truly written for the piano in terms of textures) seem like a draft for symphonies.
Thank you for this treasure - and Pollini had his fan and haters (not as many as Pogorelich of course). But I can't say he plays like Michelangeli, as his repertoire is vastly different and what they did play in common sounds quite different. Michelangeli's Emperor was vastly superior when he was in his prime for example. But Pollini was and is one of the top pianists of his generation and one of few who dares (and should) play a program like this. And what no one discusses is how different Pollini is live versus in the studio, as his recordings of these sonatas lack anywhere near the liveliness. While Pollini is not one of my favorite pianists, I admire him greatly for his longevity at the level he plays and his consistency - two attributes incredible in this day and age. And unlike many pianists of today, he always kept to his vision as a musician and never changed his art (or attire) just to win fans over - he has been very sincere at his craft. I value that.
michelangeli abordait schubert ou brahms mozart différemment ,, pour schubert écoutez brendel , génial arturo préférait chopin ravel , génial dans debussy , perahia joue schubert d'une façon superbe , pollini s'en sort bien je trouve ,, l'interprétation est un phénomène complexe ,, gould joue bach comme personne , je l'aime beaucoup moins dans schubert et dans brahms il redevient grand allez comprendre ,, argerich ne semble pas a son aise avec schubert , cela fonctionne un peu comme les pierres fines ou précieuses il faut chercher trier tester , reprendre méditer , comparer , filtrer ,, une enquête musicale en somme , et avec le temps on apprécie en fin ,, parfois on se lasse avec schubert jamais ,, il fait partie de ces composteurs que j'ai aimé d'emblée et que j'adore des décennies plus tard ,, brahms lui me laissait indifférent je n'avais su voir sa lumière apprécier son génie immense ,, les années passant je commençais à m'attacher ,, je l'écoutais encore entre bach mozart haydn haendel chopin , schumann schubert , mendelshon bruckner , wolf , schonberg , webern , chostakovitch, berg , et tant d'autres ,, des frissons m'envahirent en écoutant brahms , il est aujourd'hui mon musicien préféré quand il est bien joué ce qui est rare tant brahms fut exigeant avec lui même ,, je ne peux plus me passer de sa magie ,, voila 5 ans que dure l"idylle ,, schubert demeure comme une gourmandise , une viennoiserie pour ceux qui aiment le sucré ,, je ne me lasserai pas des maîtres fondateurs bach haendel mozart beethoven ,, j'écris en écoutant pollini , je lui préfère brendel mais il s'en sort bien ,, perahia me semble plus interessant ,, à suivre et méditer ,, cf philosophie de la musique ,j'aimerais réecouter l'émission qui passait sur france musique tous les dimanches matins et qui s'appelait bach et l'europe , si quelqu'un possède des infos pour réecouter cette fabuleuse émission je suis preneur ,merci amis mélomanes
c'est ton opinion william , moi je préfère willhelm kempf , dinu lippati , caudio arrau , glenn goud , emil gilels , kristian zimmerman , radu lupu , clifford curzon , lili kraus , valentina liitsa , anna fedorova , rudolf serkin, ,, j'aime beaucoup michelangeli quand il joue debussy , éric satie , chostakovitch ,,liszt ou chopin idem pour rubinstein horowitz , mais le trouve moins bon quand il joue brahms mozart , beethoven, schoenberg , berg , webern ,, chaque artiste à ses musiciens favoris , cela vaut aussi pour les chefs d'orchestre , les chanteurs ,la grande callas n'appréciait pas mozart , quel dommage ,, elle n'aimait pas wagner ,, ne voulait pas entendre parler du woyccek d'alban berg ,,et on pourrait poursuivre comme ça , à l'infini ,, combien de fois n'ai je pas été déçu par l'immense richter ,, je lui préfère emil gilels de loin ,, gilels un des sommets du piano au 20 ème siècle ,, alfred brendel , est génial lui aussi et vivant ce qui devient rare ,, valentina lisitsa atteindra des sommets comme la grande clara haskill et maria yudina en leur temps ,,
I am not sure how much Rubinstein you have heard, but it does not sound like much based on your comments. His 1930s Chopin is excellent, and his 1940s playing was superb. Moravec played relatively little Chopin and judging a Chopin pianist based on the Nocturnes is hardly representative of the composers' output. As for Michelangeli, his playing from the 1940s and 1950s in certain works is top notch - and he performed more substantial works at a high level than Moravec. But the underdog is always very attractive, and some always love to take shots at those getting more recognition.
@@khool63 I enjoyed this email about your favorite composers. My favorite is Brahms with Schumann and Bach next. Then maybe Chopin, Schubert, Scarlatti, Scriabin, and Medtner. Greetings from Michigan.
Para mí es tan especial esa mezcla de ternura, placidez y pasión que encuentro en todas las obras de Schubert. En los cuartetos, quintetos, en estas sonatas, en los winterraise. Como una corriente que va y viene dulce y de pronto, violenta. Maravilloso.
Music and poetry are made as love is made; an exchange of blood, a total embrace without any caution, without any protection. The big jump every time !!
Les dernières sonates de Schubert ont quelque chose d’ultime et au même temps sans limite; horizon qui démarque la vue sans fixer l’espace ni déterminer le songe. Si tant est qu'on puisse inclure la sonate D.840 en ut majeur inachevée, je me réfère autant à la D.958 en do mineur qu'à la D.959 en la majeur et, avec plus de raison, à la D.960 en si bémol qu’inspira ces lignes remarquables à Philippe Jaccottet : «La dernière sonate pour piano de Schubert m’étant revenue hier soir, par surprise, une fois de plus, je me suis dit simplement: “Voilà”. Voilà ce qui tient inexplicablement debout, contre les pires tempêtes, contre l’aspiration du vide ; voilà ce qui mérite, définitivement, d’être aimé : la tendre colonne de feu qui vous conduit, même dans le désert qui semble n'avoir ni limites, ni fin» (Notes du ravin, Fata Morgana, 2001 : 31).
L'interprétation de Maurizio Pollini s'inscrit dans une logique de vivacité vis à vis de la fin de vie de Schubert. Ainsi, là où nous pouvons raisonnablement penser que Schubert tourne en rond dans un esprit toujours plus créatif ( paradoxe complet ), Pollini cherche, à l'instar de Sviatoslav Richter, à montrer l'idéal Schubert : il faut vivre pour créer. Ici la musique se construit dans l'instant, architecture posée sur un socle fragile : la partition.
I took our 6 year old son to hear Pollini at the Kennedy Center concert hall in 1985. I wonder whether this performance of the B flat sonata D. 960 was recorded at that performance. Is there any way to find out?
I must say that I disagree about the tempo. This speed removes much of the (gorgeous) pathos of Schubert. Richter expresses the depth, the mystery, and the pain which is missing here.
I'm kidding. I don't think he doesn't have merit as an artist. For me he's kind of like Michelangeli without the mesmerizing personality and gorgeous tone.
I've changed my opinion on Pollini. I think I simply used to follow the consensus amongst the youtube cognoscenti before. I find him to be a fine pianist. People label him as intellectual and a technician. I disagree. I think his penetrating intellect and attention to the score are a veil for a white hot intensity. He plays with a passion. He just isn't a theatrical performer that will sweep you away with his stage presence.
I love these live versions. So much freer than what he made in the studio, i think. I sadly learned that he died a few days ago, but what a legacy
Pollini understands this music, this is how I would play it if I could play it.
Documento di immenso valore per chi come me ama Pollini e più volte lo ha sentito eseguire, dal vivo, questi capolavori. È il suo momento più grande nell'interpretazione di Schubert: sono passati alcuni (necessari) furori dei primi anni tesi a sbarazzarsi di un'immagine riduttiva del compositore, frammentista e solo lirica; tanto più profonde suonano ora le oasi di riflessione, le lunghe pause, il tono disteso dei momenti più cantabili, in un equilibrio miracoloso e forse unico. I tempi lenti della 959 e della 960 li trovo un vertice del pianismo novecentesco, da lui stesso non eguagliati nelle celebre e grande incisione discografica di due anni dopo.
Piano Sonata no. 19 in C minor, D. 958
00:00 1. Allegro
11:13 2. Adagio
19:19 3. Menuetto. Allegro
22:15 4. Allegro
Piano Sonata no. 20 in A, D. 959
30:56 1. Allegro
45:00 2. Andantino
52:20 3. Scherzo. Allegro Vivace
56:50 4. Rondo. Allegretto
Piano Sonata no. 21 in B-flat, D. 960
01:08:05 1. Molto Moderato
01:27:24 2. Andante Sostenuto
01:38:14 3. Scherzo. Allegro Vivace Con Delicatezza
01:42:11 4. Allegro Ma Non Troppo
Thank you very much!
GOD sent us Schubert & Pollini.
Thank you, Lord! Thank you Lord!
These sonatas are truly amazing compositions for someone not yet 35 years of age. He certainly knew the late Beethoven. As Charles Rosen said B. was the springboard generated by the Classical era. If so, Schubert is the essence,at the very beginning, of the Romantic period. These sonatas are like hugely extended lieder with a sonata structure.
William Doyle listen to Arrau's recording of 32 Beethoven's sonatas and then you'll hear every classical piece completely different ! :)
Harry Haff возраст композитора не имеет значения... есть Брукнер, есть Франк... да и поэтов престарелых немало, тот же Фёдор Тютчев...
More than Lieder, these three sonatas resemble a string quintet, like the famous c major one, once you analize them that way.
@@pianoplaynight I once arranged the 3rd movement of D960 for string trio for a thesis I wrote back in the day because of the symphonic textures in these last 3 sonatas. I must say it made the manuscript of each of these sonatas (not the actual published versions because they are truly written for the piano in terms of textures) seem like a draft for symphonies.
As always with Pollini, golden tone and breathtaking cantabile.
Immense version des 3 dernières sonates de Schubert, merci Maurizio Pollini et surtout Franz Schubert
I've listened these three sonatas with other great pianists, but this is for me the very best recording.
Pollini will remain in time.His coldness is healthy and warm in the same time.
pollini has the gift of making you believe there can't be another way to play it...
In this sonatas that's true. :)
Exactly!
I agree, especially for these three sonatas
You are absolutely right!! Great way of describing his interpretations
bravissimo, sono una sua ammiratrice lo sentito per la prima volta nel 1962
Thank you for this treasure - and Pollini had his fan and haters (not as many as Pogorelich of course). But I can't say he plays like Michelangeli, as his repertoire is vastly different and what they did play in common sounds quite different. Michelangeli's Emperor was vastly superior when he was in his prime for example. But Pollini was and is one of the top pianists of his generation and one of few who dares (and should) play a program like this. And what no one discusses is how different Pollini is live versus in the studio, as his recordings of these sonatas lack anywhere near the liveliness. While Pollini is not one of my favorite pianists, I admire him greatly for his longevity at the level he plays and his consistency - two attributes incredible in this day and age. And unlike many pianists of today, he always kept to his vision as a musician and never changed his art (or attire) just to win fans over - he has been very sincere at his craft. I value that.
michelangeli abordait schubert ou brahms mozart différemment ,, pour schubert écoutez brendel , génial arturo préférait chopin ravel , génial dans debussy , perahia joue schubert d'une façon superbe , pollini s'en sort bien je trouve ,, l'interprétation est un phénomène complexe ,, gould joue bach comme personne , je l'aime beaucoup moins dans schubert et dans brahms il redevient grand allez comprendre ,, argerich ne semble pas a son aise avec schubert , cela fonctionne un peu comme les pierres fines ou précieuses il faut chercher trier tester , reprendre méditer , comparer , filtrer ,, une enquête musicale en somme , et avec le temps on apprécie en fin ,, parfois on se lasse avec schubert jamais ,, il fait partie de ces composteurs que j'ai aimé d'emblée et que j'adore des décennies plus tard ,, brahms lui me laissait indifférent je n'avais su voir sa lumière apprécier son génie immense ,, les années passant je commençais à m'attacher ,, je l'écoutais encore entre bach mozart haydn haendel chopin , schumann schubert , mendelshon bruckner , wolf , schonberg , webern , chostakovitch, berg , et tant d'autres ,, des frissons m'envahirent en écoutant brahms , il est aujourd'hui mon musicien préféré quand il est bien joué ce qui est rare tant brahms fut exigeant avec lui même ,, je ne peux plus me passer de sa magie ,, voila 5 ans que dure l"idylle ,, schubert demeure comme une gourmandise , une viennoiserie pour ceux qui aiment le sucré ,, je ne me lasserai pas des maîtres fondateurs bach haendel mozart beethoven ,, j'écris en écoutant pollini , je lui préfère brendel mais il s'en sort bien ,, perahia me semble plus interessant ,, à suivre et méditer ,, cf philosophie de la musique ,j'aimerais réecouter l'émission qui passait sur france musique tous les dimanches matins et qui s'appelait bach et l'europe , si quelqu'un possède des infos pour réecouter cette fabuleuse émission je suis preneur ,merci amis mélomanes
c'est ton opinion william , moi je préfère willhelm kempf , dinu lippati , caudio arrau , glenn goud , emil gilels , kristian zimmerman , radu lupu , clifford curzon , lili kraus , valentina liitsa , anna fedorova , rudolf serkin, ,, j'aime beaucoup michelangeli quand il joue debussy , éric satie , chostakovitch ,,liszt ou chopin idem pour rubinstein horowitz , mais le trouve moins bon quand il joue brahms mozart , beethoven, schoenberg , berg , webern ,, chaque artiste à ses musiciens favoris , cela vaut aussi pour les chefs d'orchestre , les chanteurs ,la grande callas n'appréciait pas mozart , quel dommage ,, elle n'aimait pas wagner ,, ne voulait pas entendre parler du woyccek d'alban berg ,,et on pourrait poursuivre comme ça , à l'infini ,, combien de fois n'ai je pas été déçu par l'immense richter ,, je lui préfère emil gilels de loin ,, gilels un des sommets du piano au 20 ème siècle ,, alfred brendel , est génial lui aussi et vivant ce qui devient rare ,, valentina lisitsa atteindra des sommets comme la grande clara haskill et maria yudina en leur temps ,,
I am not sure how much Rubinstein you have heard, but it does not sound like much based on your comments. His 1930s Chopin is excellent, and his 1940s playing was superb. Moravec played relatively little Chopin and judging a Chopin pianist based on the Nocturnes is hardly representative of the composers' output. As for Michelangeli, his playing from the 1940s and 1950s in certain works is top notch - and he performed more substantial works at a high level than Moravec. But the underdog is always very attractive, and some always love to take shots at those getting more recognition.
@@khool63 I enjoyed this email about your favorite composers. My favorite is Brahms with Schumann and Bach next. Then maybe Chopin, Schubert, Scarlatti, Scriabin, and Medtner. Greetings from Michigan.
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Terrific performances!!!!
Awesome recording, I love the sound in particular, it sounds much better then the recording on DG , for me these were the best years for Maurizio
Pollini’s sound is supreme , dynamic, full and transparent . If it sounds bad on a recording, blame the technicians.
Para mí es tan especial esa mezcla de ternura, placidez y pasión que encuentro en todas las obras de Schubert. En los cuartetos, quintetos, en estas sonatas, en los winterraise. Como una corriente que va y viene dulce y de pronto, violenta. Maravilloso.
¡Qué buena descripción!
Music and poetry are made as love is made; an exchange of blood, a total embrace without any caution, without any protection. The big jump every time !!
I really loved the sonata D. 959.
Спасибо за подарок:
за радость слышать вновь, как прежде,
музыку в исполнении
Маурицио Поллини.
24.02.2021.
Вена в начале 19.ого века. Мостовая, звуки, Вена Габсбургов....
да здравствует путин !!!!
Les dernières sonates de Schubert ont quelque chose d’ultime et au même temps sans limite; horizon qui démarque la vue sans fixer l’espace ni déterminer le songe. Si tant est qu'on puisse inclure la sonate D.840 en ut majeur inachevée, je me réfère autant à la D.958 en do mineur qu'à la D.959 en la majeur et, avec plus de raison, à la D.960 en si bémol qu’inspira ces lignes remarquables à Philippe Jaccottet : «La dernière sonate pour piano de Schubert m’étant revenue hier soir, par surprise, une fois de plus, je me suis dit simplement: “Voilà”. Voilà ce qui tient inexplicablement debout, contre les pires tempêtes, contre l’aspiration du vide ; voilà ce qui mérite, définitivement, d’être aimé : la tendre colonne de feu qui vous conduit, même dans le désert qui semble n'avoir ni limites, ni fin» (Notes du ravin, Fata Morgana, 2001 : 31).
L'interprétation de Maurizio Pollini s'inscrit dans une logique de vivacité vis à vis de la fin de vie de Schubert. Ainsi, là où nous pouvons raisonnablement penser que Schubert tourne en rond dans un esprit toujours plus créatif ( paradoxe complet ), Pollini cherche, à l'instar de Sviatoslav Richter, à montrer l'idéal Schubert : il faut vivre pour créer. Ici la musique se construit dans l'instant, architecture posée sur un socle fragile : la partition.
like Edward W. Said said, “a direct approach, aristocratically clear, powerfully and generously articulated.”
브라보! 플리니의 전성기 때 연주라 그런지 정말 훌륭합니다.
45:00 Piano Sonata no. 20 D. 959 Mvt 2
Incroyable, tout comme le deuxième mouvement de la D960 !
такой романтично_философский Шуберт,потрясающий пианист!!
bravo
Sense and sensibility. Love it.
the slow movement from 959 is magical and so Schubert
Rock and roll. Very good maurizio
23:33 I really like that development, especially from 23:56 onwards.
Pollini non è per tutti!
Forse chi non lo tollera sa far di meglio?
Attendo con grande interesse vs. interpretazione di queste tre sonate!
То
Superb performance by Pollini, but listen to Richter play D.958 (studio recording not the 1958 concert).
Pollini è grandissimo.Richter è un genio
@@leonardogiacobbe5422Non sono d’accordo per niente.
Next time I go to a piano recital, I'll be humming along as loud as I want too, thank you very much.
Well, it is pleasant to listen to while one is working. Far away Schubert's melodic resonance is vibrating into my ears, pleasurable...
love it
Thanks.
EXCELENTE ,Y ESTA GRABACIÒN TIENE 33 AÑOS
22:15
I took our 6 year old son to hear Pollini at the Kennedy Center concert hall in 1985. I wonder whether this performance of the B flat sonata D. 960 was recorded at that performance. Is there any way to find out?
Bravo 1:24:50
Where they had been recorded ?
forse il 25 Agosto del 1985, alla Grosses Festspielhaus di Salisburgo.
Quando vieni a Napoli a fare un CONCERTO ?
41:56 Signore Pollini singing
GO DIRECTLY TO 1,27,00.
incredible
1:27:25
45:00 slow movement , sonata in a
23:43 JAZZY 😏😏😏
I like fast tempo B-flat D.960
I must say that I disagree about the tempo. This speed removes much of the (gorgeous) pathos of Schubert. Richter expresses the depth, the mystery, and the pain which is missing here.
in general he is too fast here . ma be the recording at YT . something i have noticed .
in general he is too fast here . ma be the recording at YT . something i have noticed .
@@JimNickoloffMiami this is a little brisk but SR is impossible
@@davidmoran5431 À chacun son goût.
1:27:25
1:40:42 - LOL, quite the sf.
Almost two hours of Pollini. How do your ears tolerate it? ;-)
+Danny B. haha :) I like (relatively) early Pollini :) I did stop listening after attending a 2005 recital though :(
I'm kidding. I don't think he doesn't have merit as an artist. For me he's kind of like Michelangeli without the mesmerizing personality and gorgeous tone.
I've changed my opinion on Pollini. I think I simply used to follow the consensus amongst the youtube cognoscenti before. I find him to be a fine pianist. People label him as intellectual and a technician. I disagree. I think his penetrating intellect and attention to the score are a veil for a white hot intensity. He plays with a passion. He just isn't a theatrical performer that will sweep you away with his stage presence.
you got him! and you see that in his later years when his intensity flowers even more... and finds a balance with his wonderful technique
A strange question, especially when asked by someone who apparently has no ears. ;)
Все-таки, Шуберта интереснее слушать, а Моцарта играть самому...
Быть может, Моцарт писал для цифрового пианино?
Ok ok ok ok
15 non mi piace .............incredibile.........asini