Isn’t it crazy how us old wow players have almost formed a band of brothers. We all have similar experiences to which we can relate and so we have come together in nostalgia to a game which we wish we could experience again but know we never will… it is a sad state of affairs
Brings back great memories. I remember seeing this when it first released. Icecrown is still my favorite instance of all time. I quit mid-Cata, came back for Classic but never cleared ICC before they shut down the servers. It was sad to see Wotlk shut down for good, AGAIN. Lol
My brother and I were in Months behind during the filming of this. Great times, remember when it released was a huge deal on Eredar. Hope you been well Kevin! Mapenza/Germzz
the one thing ive learned from these docs is that "gamer guilt" is a thing that most other hobbies dont have. no one would be mad at you for being busy cuz of bowling night with your group, or for playing baseball that evening. but raiding in World of Warcraft, GOD FUCKING FORBID.
The real hero is the raid designer. Think about it, they manipulate how players should play, and force the players to find the way to beat the boss which the methods are already well-planned but hidden to be found.
When you're designing a raid encounter you could simply make so many different mechanics that require coordination with other people very often and create a boss that would be unkillable except for the most organized and best players but then a large % of the population of the game who does raiding content like 99.9% would not be able to partake in the content that they enjoy.
And on top of all of these coordinated mechanics you could have tuning that requires the absolute maximum performance from the damage dealers and healers to be able to compete. For the hard mode versions of raids in WoW I believe that the first half of the raid is tuned for around the 60th percentile of the damage and healing potential of a raiding group and the later half is tuned to be able to be completed by the 70th or 80th percentile.
ICC still one of my most fun times ever raiding in WoW. Sadly as the years passed I stopped raiding altogether -- part was the time IRL I had to commit to the game waned, part was I slowly started hated the egos, arrogance and the pettiness people in raids have particularly towards those NOT in your guild with you. YES I was kicked before , but surprising these comments aren't solely based on that...there many times I wasn't kicked but still saw the nonsense and BS in the raid chat and on the comms and then people were kicked en masse. Why? Did they mess up a lot -- no, they got no second chance....three people were kicked for low DPS -- but get this AFTER the boss was killed and there were no deaths in the raid. But they said "bye....gear up..." one guy called one of them "dude your dps is terrible you shouldn't be here".... ITS A FUCKING GAME PEOPLE. If someone isn't trying like stepping in the fire not paying attention etc etc. that's one thing. But no chances? Even when the raid is rolling fine through the instance? Yeah that made me go "yeah I'm out from this ego bullshit".
As a small anecdote, the gear and the footage didn't match the actual recording of the fights. The footage came from a 9-man carry with my character "Steadycam" just RP walking and taking footage. :D Their progression was definitely real.
Isn’t it crazy how us old wow players have almost formed a band of brothers. We all have similar experiences to which we can relate and so we have come together in nostalgia to a game which we wish we could experience again but know we never will… it is a sad state of affairs
The DEA comment hit it on the head. I’m a Police Officer and WoW is my escape from the daily toxicity that is people.
Imagine the toxity he sees when wow players give actual relief from toxicity 🤣
Fuck the DEA!
Brings back great memories. I remember seeing this when it first released. Icecrown is still my favorite instance of all time. I quit mid-Cata, came back for Classic but never cleared ICC before they shut down the servers. It was sad to see Wotlk shut down for good, AGAIN. Lol
Followed your journey into releasing this back in the day. Cool to come across it again!
Watching this while we're 4/6 in SWP in TBC and I'm getting excited for Wrath!
My brother and I were in Months behind during the filming of this. Great times, remember when it released was a huge deal on Eredar. Hope you been well Kevin! Mapenza/Germzz
the one thing ive learned from these docs is that "gamer guilt" is a thing that most other hobbies dont have. no one would be mad at you for being busy cuz of bowling night with your group, or for playing baseball that evening. but raiding in World of Warcraft, GOD FUCKING FORBID.
"He got shot, people are completely normal"
"Hey guys im here". So sad... I want to cry. Want that time back.
The real hero is the raid designer. Think about it, they manipulate how players should play, and force the players to find the way to beat the boss which the methods are already well-planned but hidden to be found.
When you're designing a raid encounter you could simply make so many different mechanics that require coordination with other people very often and create a boss that would be unkillable except for the most organized and best players but then a large % of the population of the game who does raiding content like 99.9% would not be able to partake in the content that they enjoy.
And on top of all of these coordinated mechanics you could have tuning that requires the absolute maximum performance from the damage dealers and healers to be able to compete.
For the hard mode versions of raids in WoW I believe that the first half of the raid is tuned for around the 60th percentile of the damage and healing potential of a raiding group and the later half is tuned to be able to be completed by the 70th or 80th percentile.
Interesting documentary. Deserves more views tbh
I just found out about this doco and ive been playing wow since vanilla 😱 great movie
Thank you for posting this!
THank you for reminding me the Joy
I remember trying to find a way to watch this wayyyy back in like 2012 and coming up short
Why doesnt this have more views?
Reminds me why the guild show was so good just a contrast of personalities
the "Elite" of the game :D
Amazing docu guys, really well done. Thankyou! :D
ICC still one of my most fun times ever raiding in WoW. Sadly as the years passed I stopped raiding altogether -- part was the time IRL I had to commit to the game waned, part was I slowly started hated the egos, arrogance and the pettiness people in raids have particularly towards those NOT in your guild with you. YES I was kicked before , but surprising these comments aren't solely based on that...there many times I wasn't kicked but still saw the nonsense and BS in the raid chat and on the comms and then people were kicked en masse. Why? Did they mess up a lot -- no, they got no second chance....three people were kicked for low DPS -- but get this AFTER the boss was killed and there were no deaths in the raid. But they said "bye....gear up..." one guy called one of them "dude your dps is terrible you shouldn't be here".... ITS A FUCKING GAME PEOPLE. If someone isn't trying like stepping in the fire not paying attention etc etc. that's one thing. But no chances? Even when the raid is rolling fine through the instance? Yeah that made me go "yeah I'm out from this ego bullshit".
Well done sir ... amazing editing .. great documentary!
Man, that Lore fella seems like a nice enough guy, but I’ve never advised someone toward a different haircut stronger in my life.
LAUNCHING THE OW LAUNCHER AS WE SPEAK!
too bad LK days are gone, it is cata now even
I hate how i missed this. In 2011 i was playing minecraft (i was 11 years old).
I give this Documentary +50 DKP
The Glory Days
i was in this guild. fun times
imagine your guild leader going on to become the fucking community manager
Tell me everything, I'd like to hear it.
i use to cuss so bad when i was a teenager on xbox 360 i told my mom she just doesnt understand and that the bad kids deserve to be talked to this way
Kevin, heroes? 😔
starting to think the angry gamer is mcconnell
Mccuck it's a clown money lover ;)....just like Asmon....
I thought about McConnell too lol
I LOVE WORLD OF WARCRAFT!!!!!!
lol @ Ventrillo. No one uses that anymore. :P
Raid: Shadow Legends
"your not a girl!" is a stalkers opening line lol, then ask for proof. social group was insanely good back then,
Nice One-Shot: Paladin has 25HC-Gear, DK has 25HC Gear. I mean for real? :D
As a small anecdote, the gear and the footage didn't match the actual recording of the fights. The footage came from a 9-man carry with my character "Steadycam" just RP walking and taking footage. :D Their progression was definitely real.
to be fair i've seen many high level healers be girls, but when it comes to dps and tanking they're just not there.
pve peasants ^^