Noctua Just Killed The AIO! Also NH-D15 *G2* Here At Last | Computex 2024
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00:00 The New NH-D15 G2 Is Here - FINALLY!
04:20 Next-gen NF-A15x25 - Not Just For Coolers
05:12 Thermosiphon Cooler - A Phase Changing Game Changer
06:34 Seasonic + Noctua PSU - High Wattage, Low Noise
07:42 Noctua Home - Noctua Desk Fan, Anyone? 
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"Mount it under your desk." Noctua made a crotch cooler. These are the advancements I want to hear about.
friggin' genius i say.
HOLY SHIT, @Bitwit, pls pin this genius idea
*instructions unclear meme*
As a Florida guy, that's not a bad idea 😂. Noctua might be onto something here.
Swamp ass cooler
Awesome that a company is finally looking into some stand alone fan solutions. I too am in a similar boat with my htpc demanding more cooling...I have already got 2x120mm fans mounted at the bottom of my cabinet with a grill up top but without some extra push, the heat doesn't escape quickly enough. So looking forward to that video of how you are going to implement them on you're setup.
Love the coverage dude, always glad to see you uploading!
5:18 "thermophison" lol
It's German, clearly😂
@@RyTrapp0 Bernhard Kümel build it first... maybe?
i knowww :(
thermo siphon, not phison. In theory It's just an air cooler with flexible heatpipes. I'm kinda surprised nobody thought of that sooner
@@goatman86 we know it's siphon. Kyle said phison in the video lol.
Great having you back ser, one love.
Something tells me the "competitive" $150 NH-D15 G2 is still not going to look well at the side of the $35 Thermalright Peerless Assasin...
Yep, this was my first thought.
More like their $40 Phantom Spirit Evo, which is even further ahead of the Peerless Assassin in terms of performance.
I’m sure it will win the noise normalized tests, which is the market Noctua is going after.
Nah noctua all the way, way quieter and the best customer support/experience I've ever had. They've sent me multiple free kits for new CPU sockets, zero questions asked.
@CianMcsweeney Full vouch, they replied really quickly and sent me some extra mounting parts no questions asked. Noctua ride or die for life
I cut 4x 140mm holes in the back of my entertainment cabinet and mounted Noctua fans with grills. The intake fans are towards the bottom and have a magnetic filter. The exhaust fans are up towards the top and just have grills. Since I don't have to worry about dust, I am using a test bench frame to hold the computer. This setup keeps my HTPC nice and cool.
Love the video man.
I forgot how much I loved these kinds of videos
A seasonic noctua collaboration?!? *insert rainbow drool*
The modular desk fan system would be great for adding a filter, so that it could be placed on a bench to direct soldering smoke away from you while soldering medium-to-large boards or handwired circuits. I kludged together something for this using a desktop gooseneck mic stand and a 120mm fan, and this desktop stand would have been SO much better.
Thank You Kyle!
Did Lyle come along?
8:00 my dad used to make these all the time from scraps lmao!
very cool. that non aio cooler is brilliant
Amazing stuff. Wondering what's going on with the upcoming Ryzen 9 - would they have similar weird plate and would the CCDs bi similarly positioned?!
Dude! I love that BMW M3 you are riding in at the beginning of the video!
Great video! Thank you!
How is it not an All In One (AIO) or Closed loop Cooler (CLC), just because it does not have a pump?
It's a heat pump, like an airconditioner. Uses evaporation/phase change to cool. I would still call it an AIO because it's all in one, but i understand why they want to deferentiate, since in PC cooling AIO or CLC refers to something specific.
@@Rok_Satanas Also probably not as effective as if it it had a Pump. But still interesting since it can be good enough with less noise perhaps.
@@laggmonstret Sure, but noctua is known for Good enough silent performance, so i understand why they didn't put one in
@@Rok_Satanas Certainly :D
Definitely a CLC, but not an AIO
That desk fan would be good for us sim racers / flyers!
My fellow Kyle, I am thrilled to see regular uploads from you again - missed you my dude. Your particular flavour of technertainment is the best of YT.
I concur
The Psu and desk fan are awesome.
Lga1856 will come with a ILM shim to do the same effect as the washers.
to this new kind of cooler> there is no such thing like "hey, this is a new product and maybe next year...". If Noctua shows this now for the first time, your children might buy it once.
Will I be able to just swap the fans in my existing NH-D15? Or did they change something with regard to form factor/width between?
What gas are the using in the aio? Sane as automotive? 1234yf?
I'm already running a few 140mm fans on the desk at 5 volts via a USB adapter. Nice and quiet.
I love thermosiphon cooling. I have the IceGiant on my 5900X and never see it get above 80. Beast of a cooler. Nice to see some competition in the space.
Some of those extra accessories look like they could easily be sold as 3D Print files. Imagine being able to just buy the files and 3D print your own adapters. That'd be cool.
Some actually are on Noctua's Printables profile, right there for you to print at no cost :)
@@BobDrenth Indeed. Great move by Noctua.
@@BobDrenththat's why I still buy their fans, they care about their customers.
Super pipes in aio form. Pretty cool
Cool stuff
Is there a noctua stand fan and ceiling fan?
My warped frame made the fan make so much noise, had to return them
that is huge, how does that not fall off or warp the motherboard
I added a noctua fan to my psu years ago and it's working great =).
omg i really want the desk fan. but i hope it comes in Noctua brown.
Can't wait for the "AIO" from Noctua.
That new “not an aio” sounds like an aio with extra work
shouldn't paste or thermal pads counteract non-flatness of the plate? especially a pad since i'd imagine the amount of material between the two items will be a constant amount (but different compression..and hopefully both good conducting)
Sure, but it's a crutch, in a way.
For some reason your voice sounds like Jayztwocents in this. Totally thought I was watching a J2C video there for a sec lol
Now I can't unhear it hahaha
It looks like a thermosiphon affect ?
The concavity of LGA 1700 isn't by design of the chip, it is how the same old cpu retainer that they designed in the 90s deforms the thinner IHS on the modern Itel CPUs. We chould switch to a cooler mounted CPU retainer that the CPU/cooler then slots into the motherboard. This has a lot of theoretical benefits (the CPU can be sealed away from exposure to air humidity, allowing sub zero work, as well as integrated heaters, and structurally locking the CPU to the thing that is sharing thermal stress).
I believe it's also due to the LGA1700 CPUs being slightly thicker but they didn't make the mounting bracket higher, so it gets extra bent in the middle. Adding washers under the mounting bracket to raise it slightly is reported to give a better heatsink contact.
Noctua is well qualified to represent the LBC 😂
The first thing that came to mind for me too 😆
Why is there a discord noise at 5:19
Those mounts are going to be heavily used in car audio cooling too.
Hope we get a Lyle appearance for one booth
Wonder who made the Thermosiphon in the engendering department first , Ice Giant or Noctua?
Kyle at Computex is always the best.
So basically an AIO without a pump? so one less possible point of failure, and no pump noise. Nice!
Yeahhh Noctua entering the destillary market 🤣🤣🤣
Wouldn't there still be the issue of leaking seeing as there is liquid inside. Plus wouldnt the gas leech out over time making it less efficient to the point where it no longer works?
vapor chamber?
The Thermosiphon steals the show. Sadly it will be a couple of years before that goes on sale.
I was thinking the same. Put 2 of those fans under my laptop. I have a 13950HX and the laptop is very loud
Cool !
noctua studying vehicle air conditioning and implementing into a pc haha
Who else thought of “ball cooler” when you said you can put it under your desk…” haha
So...what you're saying is that I can potentially convert my "AIO" into a mini distillery...okay, I'd love to see someone bring that concept to life! haha
The thermosiphon concept is what the IceGiant with Prosiphon Elite released 3 or 4 years back. The benefit of Noctua's is that the heatsink isn't blocking the top half of the motherboard. The benefit of IceGiant's is that you don't have hoses (which I imagine the coolant could leak from). The vapor is entirely locked into the metal pipes attached to the heatsink.
I have the IceGiant, and it performs extremely well with my 5950X. I can peg my CPU at 100% with video encoding as it hovers between 4.5-4.6GHz and see temps stay in high 70s/low 80s.
I don't think the coolant is any more likely to leak from a Noctua thermosiphon vs the IceGiant. The Thermosiphon is a sealed system, and with good quality control and design, followed by TESTING after manufacturing I think the odds that a leak would occur would be incredibly LOW... and glad you like your IceGiant (it is pretty neat concept), but it gets about 2degC higher temperatures vs the Noctua NH-D15 SE so it's pretty much in line with the $33 (USD) cooler like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE.
@@photonboy999 ,
"The Thermosiphon is a sealed system, and with good quality control and design, followed by TESTING after manufacturing I think the odds that a leak would occur would be incredibly LOW"
Cool! Thanks for the clarification on that. That definitely makes the Noctua solution more compelling to me.
In regards to performance compared to Noctua NH-D15, you're correct for most consumer uses (including my own). Where there is a slight benefit to the IceGiant is over extended periods. Due to its huge heatsink design, its heat-soaking allows it better sustained heat dissipation and higher boost clocks on a prolonged, single run at high temps. So, if it encoded a video for many hours, the Noctua would gradually fall behind, though it would start out winning for a while. Most benchmarks don't account for this.
Noctua's fans are definitely quieter. Admittedly, the IceGiant's performance isn't good enough for the price. Thankfully, I was an early adopter and preordered it at a much lower price than it can be bought now (
So basically they made a heat pump'ish type of design for a pc. But just using ambient moisture in the air. What happens if you live in extremely dry areas?
Isn't that chart just describing exactly how heatpipes already work though?
FYI thermosiphons are not new tech. The Ford Model T used a thermosiphon instead of a waterpump.
A CPU heat sink with Ford Model T cooling technology. I like it.
i wonder how can 150$ air cooler kill 70$ liquid freezer III 280 ...
That new AIO is basically how an air conditioner works. Probably has some refrigerant in it.
It's unpowered though.
+mitchtalmadge, writes _That new AIO is basically how an air conditioner works."_
Or a fridge.
@@kylekermgard, writes _"It's unpowered though."_
Which makes it much less efficient.
im thinking its just an air cooler in a aio chassis. its pretty much the same principle. im sure it has a different liquid but its similar enough in my mind...
yes, its a refrigeration cycle, its going to need some sort of refrigerant. idk how this works tho without a compressor and expansion valve
I think it’s more like they replaced the “heat pipes” of an air cooler with something else
Love the Seasonic collaboration because it is the only PSU brand I trust.
Wonder if those Desk Fan would work with a old low watt Power Bank.
The arctic summair plus has a built in battery and can run off usb or power bank. Works great.
Was wanting to build a new PC next year but looks like I might be waiting a little longer for the G2 Chromax
Ah, according to a Noctua rep on Reddit it looks like Q1/Q2 2025 for the cooler
W NOCTUA!!!
omg Im hiped, I always wanted a syphon cooler! event thougt about building one my self, and if Noctua (my favorit brand all time) releases one Im so happy (:
"this is the fan of fans"
If I like it, does that make me a fan of fan of fans?
Cool gadgets
So Noctua made an Air conditioner for your CPU
It´s exactly the way an AC works :D
I'm having a hard time believing that 2 long heatpipes will do anywhere close too a 6-8 pipe normal heatsink. But future tests will enlighten us. Would be awesome if it did perform well.
We need to see a Noctua Auto edition, where they design airflow for automobile manufactures to optimize airflow and cooling efficiency where we nee dit most in every day use in Texas summer heat!
will they finally dethrone the phantek t30 in terms of performance.
Noctua should find a wood grain that matches the color of their brown perfectly. Then they can keep with the trend, maybe get on some peoples radar they wouldnt otherwise, but stay true to Noctua lol.
Been with Noctua since what 2005? I can't remember. The NH-12U. They are the King of air cooling. Glad they are going in PSU and AIO market.
Fan-See stuff there.
You look like an angry Tim Pool with hair
Big Fan
I think either lapping will make a strong come back or deliding will get more popular if this trend continues.
Lmao I literally bought 3 Noctua fans to cool me while I sleep last week, gonna be printing a housing for them and and a fan controller.
Noctua is such a neat company
i'm still using my noctua fans from 12 years ago, still working well (and I keep my computer on 24/7)
Are Noctua Fans Mag-lev or liquid bearing? I hate having to use iCue software because I can only find Mag-lev Corsair fans.
I'm not sure what kind of bearings they use, but I have been using Noctua fans for over a decade now and haven't had a single failure.
Imagine that, a fan designed to cool instead of being a lightshow.
i always choose noctua its hard to change to another brand...for air cooler... the heatsinks are top notch
This is why I stay subscribed to bitwit. No shock “journalism”. No need to drum up drama for views. Just talks about tech and gadgets in an easy to understand format. Stay classy Kyle!
Also, that’s not an HTPC. It’s an A/V receiver. But I guess the net result is the same 👍
Wow you made an A/C system like in a car...for a CPU.
Color me EXTREMELY interested. If it lives to the hype. It's a BUY for me!
How doesnt it have a leakage probability problem? You just said there is liquid in it.
I'd much rather have a portable and not mounted desk fan which also has a rechargeable battery. That's the only kind I use for anything since I can take it with me and it helps alot if the power goes out in the Summer.
the tx1600 is the best looking psu, i want one so bad.
With how quickly Noctua brings products to market I'd say Noctua just killed the AIO in 2045.
When you have a company making a non-flat cooler you know the cpu is flat.
I have 10 years from an nh-. With new fans it will last another decade
i hawk tuah on that Noctua
"Asetek" left the chat... 😂
Isn't the intel problem just the stock motherboard frame bending the lid? I don't see the point of selling different heatsinks when a $10 thermalright frame fixes the problem.
It bends the PCB cause they made it thinner quite a few generations ago.
Glad Noctua isn’t being stagnant but I always compare them to be quiet and it’s always neck and neck to me.