That's one thing I have been asking for a long time. No, not brown Asus GPU or brown Seasonic PSU though those are nice. I will definitely buy a Noctua laptop cooler and take it out with my laptop when I am waiting in the airport for all to see.
OOhh - yes please! Noctua would very likely be majorly unsatisfied with biscuit fans and we'd finally get our hands on those solid-state cooling chips that make the news about once a year for the last decade. (The AirJet, according to google.)
I'm waiting for more on the Prime TX600 and second-gen NH-D15. Also curious about the thermosiphon prototype. Whether we like it or not, innovation and variety push the industry forward.
Everyone is complaining about the cost of the desk fan but I can see its use in lots of places away from the desk. The first thing I keep thinking of is those little fans they have for the driver on coach busses, trucks, farm equipment, etc., where it makes sense to have a durable, robust fan that focuses it's airflow to one location, and where a big company would be able to afford to install the fans in their fleet a lot more readily.
Part of the complaining is more at the power supply included with the product being valued at 30 dollars, when it probably costs them maybe 2 dollars in bulk orders.
Gotta luv marketing. If there was an extra 2db emitted by my PSU fan, bouncing around in my case, under my desk, never to be heard by anyone, then did it really create "noise" at all? Numbers may state yes, but numbers themselves are pretty quiet, can't hear my computer making those either.
It's good that the companies like Deep Cool and the rest has been Noctua some serious competition recently. It benefits innovation (and pricing) as a whole.
I can understand both sides of the argument about the bowed cooler bases. But I think their coolers will still not be obsolete in several years simply because CPU dies will brobably stay in the middle for Intel. They haven't changed much in the past decades when it comes to die placement, so I don't think they'll change much in the future.
Despite how good many AIOs often are these days and how many often use them, I've still remained an Air Cooler user for CPUs, but I won't deny if they do indeed manage to fully make that phase changer thing and it does indeed compete decently with other AIOs or even a Nocuta air cooler... I would make the change, mostly owing to the fact it lacks the noise and reliability issues. But yeah, here's hoping they do manage to crack that. Hope they also do a 280 version as well for 140 fans.
@@zivzulander I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately recognized that desk fan design from MajorHardware's video. I initially thought Noctua had stolen the design idea but when I went back to find the specific video it featured in it turns out no, it was Noctua's design all along. He just made a huge version to attach to a standing floor fan lol
I actually would like it if Noctua would come out with 38mm depth fans across their product stack. I like buying old server gear for my home lab but the fans on those are designed for datacenter use where noise doesn't matter and where the server is expected to be both at 100% utilization the whole time and where it is packed next to a bunch of other servers also pumping out heat. I throw in noctua fans right now to bring the noise levels under control but I do worry if the chassis have enough static pressure to actually cool the system and I don't even bother with coolers and GPUs that are fanless because they expect to be cooled by the case fans pushing air across them.
I love my Noctua D15 got it a few generations of CPUs and will use it for my future gaming rigs its just a silent masterpiece for me thanks noctua greetz from germany linus 😊
Noctua should just ask reviewers to mention their dedicated support to older products along with the fact Noctua is all about quality anyway hence the price. Consumers that could afford Noctual will value this anyway and likely less swayed by better performance from a potentially cheaper better performing product.
I wonder how the competition tests for long term performance. They release products so rapidly I can only assume not at all or only crudely. Most people wouldn't warranty a cheap fan or cooler anyway, so they can probably count on that.
I do wish Noctua went the Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 route with socket 1700 and included a contact frame as part of the mounting system to reduce CPU deformation with the ILM locked down. Arctic's solution isn't perfect, but socket 1700 verifiably benefits from replacing Intel's shitty ILM with a thermalright or thermal grizzly frame, as I can confirm with my 12700K. Noctua's solution tells me is we're pretty close to reaching "peak air cooler" considering mass-market products are resorting to once enthusiast-only techniques to show a meaningful performance uplift. I respect Noctua's commitment to making sure their products will go the distance, even in severe edge cases. If I'm building a system for reliability and longevity, Noctua is my go-to.
why not make a set of cpu contacts that are generally optimized for a set of die patterns? one for center, one for edge, center & edge, an X shape, etc. this would require more complex design- needing a die contact plate, cpu/mobo bracket, then the cooler to all combine; but this would allow customers to carry coolers from one cpu to another with only needing a new die plate and/or bracket
Ive moved my NHD14 between rigs for years. New mount kits are great but Ive always bought them, its a few bucks and just offering them at a reasonable price is more than enough for me to stay with Noctua. For the lack of cooler upgrades, I have more than bought enough fans over the same time period to make up lol.
Can't wait to get the D15 G2 for my I9-14900K. (Would "standard" be the pick for me, i have used a contact frame instead of intel's IHS since the start)
to be fair i've had an a12x25 in my psu for a couple years now. i found an stl that adapts 120mm fans to 135mm spacing and its been doing well in my enermax from 2011
I could understand the „just don’t buy it” mentality for Noctua’s HOME fan if they worked. Focusing a fan to that small of an angle is actually bad as if you move even slightly you have to readjust the fan to face you, no other fan has this issue when it blows everywhere vaguely in front of you.
Id say bad take here Linus. The average customer will just get the standard and it will be as you describe, standard and usable for a long time. The other variants satisfy their enthusiast customers, who likely won't be reusing the cooler either, as they would prefer to use updated components every build. This is Noctua keeping their usual, while ADDING a couple extra options for special users. Nothing but a positive.
Linus' statement about these fans not being made out of LCP is false. Noctua originally planned for both components (rotor and frame) to be made out of LCP, but testing showed that it was better for the frame to be made out of traditional materials. The rotor is still made out of LCP though.
i ordered a paperlike yesterday and they gave me the wrong one!!!! had to file for a replacement of the RIGHT product lol gave me a 11 when I ordered a 12.9.
The great part about most of the performance increase being due to the fans means that I could boost my OG NH-D15 with 1 or 2 of those new fans eventually. If my fans ever die, I will definitely upgrade to these new ones.
How many combinations (and SKUs) can a manufacturer come up with? A more "selective product" has to mean "less turn over" and a higher price per unit, right? But does the "higher price" match any performance gain that is in any proportional to the price difference?
What took Noctua so long? They were messing around with their microscopes and closely examining their products just for the title "no1 best cooler in the market".
I would expect linus to get why we buy noctua. performance is fairly even with stuff that cost 80% of noctua stuff. but only with them, you move the mouse, not sure if machine is on or off.
Noctua is an exemplary company, they don't pump out new fans and coolers every year, that the customers can/should rush to buy the new shiny/brown thing... they take their time to make a real improvement. But for the three heat sinks I'll have to side with Linus. When I first heard of the three different shapes for different CPUs I immediately thougt "What when I upgrade my computer/CPU, switching in the process from intel to AMD or vice versa...". I don't want to buy a new cooler, esp. considering the premium build quality and price for Nocuta coolers. Moreover I wonder how many customers will buy the wrong version by accident.
Missed opportunity to use a Noctua-edition LTT screwdriver for the backstabbing
Yes
Absolutely disappointed
New LTT screwdriver, Noctua backstab edition: comes with scalpel bit, poison needle bit, and Phillips and Torx bits!
I forgot to bring one!! - LS
@@EricGerlachCaI'd actually buy that
wym, pause it and look again :P orange end cap
R.I.P Linus, killed by his own screwdriver.
I know why his screwdriver decided to screw him, ill tell you, after our segway to our sponsor, rizz wallet
@@snickerboi3723 lol good one.
😂😂
Wow thanks Linus for the heart......could it be.....did he survive?
He screwed himself.
The "AIO" is so Noctua... A pump?! THAT MAKES NOISE! Lets use nature!
It doesn't have a pump, it's a vapor chamber the was supersiszed.
Hey, my man, physics don't break...
@@Truex007 tell that to someone working in the field of Quantum mechanics.
Noctua need to start making laptop fans bro, and laptop makers need to standardise their fans so its easier for both parties
Framework Laptop noctua fans?
That would be the dream
That's one thing I have been asking for a long time. No, not brown Asus GPU or brown Seasonic PSU though those are nice. I will definitely buy a Noctua laptop cooler and take it out with my laptop when I am waiting in the airport for all to see.
OOhh - yes please! Noctua would very likely be majorly unsatisfied with biscuit fans and we'd finally get our hands on those solid-state cooling chips that make the news about once a year for the last decade. (The AirJet, according to google.)
I'm waiting for more on the Prime TX600 and second-gen NH-D15. Also curious about the thermosiphon prototype. Whether we like it or not, innovation and variety push the industry forward.
Everyone is complaining about the cost of the desk fan but I can see its use in lots of places away from the desk. The first thing I keep thinking of is those little fans they have for the driver on coach busses, trucks, farm equipment, etc., where it makes sense to have a durable, robust fan that focuses it's airflow to one location, and where a big company would be able to afford to install the fans in their fleet a lot more readily.
That's why they actually named it a "multi purpose" fan kit, nowhere is it marketed purely as a desk fan!
Part of the complaining is more at the power supply included with the product being valued at 30 dollars, when it probably costs them maybe 2 dollars in bulk orders.
2 of my favorite brands combined in a product, well I know what I'm gonna get for my next build
Every business that Noctua engages in increases the value of that product, so good for you, Noctua.
Ltt is the only channel where people are exited for ad reads
Some channels make skits etc which are basically just good content that happens to be an ad!
people no just you yes
Oke now I'm wanting to see them make laptop fans
Best segue ever. 10/10 did not see it coming and made me smile afterwards
Gotta luv marketing. If there was an extra 2db emitted by my PSU fan, bouncing around in my case, under my desk, never to be heard by anyone, then did it really create "noise" at all? Numbers may state yes, but numbers themselves are pretty quiet, can't hear my computer making those either.
how can anyone hear a psu fan over their cpu or gpu or case fans?
That fother mucking segway had me rolling.
man its refreshing to see shaved linus again. didnt know i missed his more nerdy appearance until now.
Great to see new NF-A12 Fans, I hope they can finally bring LCP to more of their lineup, like the 92mm and 80mm
I've had my Noctua NH-D15 for 11 years across 3 builds and it's still a beast. I love Noctua
I really like these episodes at 'trade shows', it feels so in-the-moment and real
Hard to describe, but I like it
The knife thing at the beginning got me. RIP Mannheim
It's good that the companies like Deep Cool and the rest has been Noctua some serious competition recently. It benefits innovation (and pricing) as a whole.
Isn't the phase change thermosiphon cooler essentially just a conventional heat pipe air cooler, but with the heat pipe soft and bendable?
I can understand both sides of the argument about the bowed cooler bases. But I think their coolers will still not be obsolete in several years simply because CPU dies will brobably stay in the middle for Intel. They haven't changed much in the past decades when it comes to die placement, so I don't think they'll change much in the future.
I kinda want that desk fan to direct heat from the PC out of my room. That funnel looks like it would fit a duct/dryer hose.
I think this means we need to revisit the ALL NOCTUA PC!
Despite how good many AIOs often are these days and how many often use them, I've still remained an Air Cooler user for CPUs, but I won't deny if they do indeed manage to fully make that phase changer thing and it does indeed compete decently with other AIOs or even a Nocuta air cooler... I would make the change, mostly owing to the fact it lacks the noise and reliability issues.
But yeah, here's hoping they do manage to crack that.
Hope they also do a 280 version as well for 140 fans.
would be cool if you could temporarily reverse a fan on a power supply in order to blow away the dust bunnies
I’ve used the 3d printer desk fan thing for years and it works VERY well!
Did you use the MajorHardware one?
@@zivzulander I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately recognized that desk fan design from MajorHardware's video. I initially thought Noctua had stolen the design idea but when I went back to find the specific video it featured in it turns out no, it was Noctua's design all along. He just made a huge version to attach to a standing floor fan lol
I actually would like it if Noctua would come out with 38mm depth fans across their product stack. I like buying old server gear for my home lab but the fans on those are designed for datacenter use where noise doesn't matter and where the server is expected to be both at 100% utilization the whole time and where it is packed next to a bunch of other servers also pumping out heat. I throw in noctua fans right now to bring the noise levels under control but I do worry if the chassis have enough static pressure to actually cool the system and I don't even bother with coolers and GPUs that are fanless because they expect to be cooled by the case fans pushing air across them.
The desk fan would be great if it had more power…you can feel the channeling of wind just not enough
0.17, that's me in the back!
Praying that noctua stays this consumer friendly forever
Noctua really makes it easy to be a fan (pun not intended)
the rubber mount gives me the fizzes and I need it now, my subwoofer amps cook
"Slow but Solid" is also how I prefer most of the brown things in my life.
The phase change cooler looks super interesting. AIO-like performance with air cooler reliability.
Watched till the end, intro was hilarious. Keep doing your thing Noctua, Seasonic, and LTT!
A new all noctua pc it is then.
Ever notice that whenever Linus is pleading his case about something he's always filmed walking around and he talks with a different inflection?
In all honesty, I want that desk fan.
It's strange they haven't found the way to brown-coat the aluminum fins by now
I actually love how the power-supply looks :D
Those thermosiphons are like AIOs but without all the maintenance.
I use a mounting plate instead of the stock retention arm so I guess I'm good with my 14th gen
just in time for me to need to replace my PSU as the warranty goes up this year after 6 years.
i once bought a 1200w with fan-stop and never ever heard it, heard only ALL THE OTHER FANS lmao
Silly linus, that isn't metal. It's eco friendly wood veneer
Funny. I did a NFA9x14 swap into an SF750Plat like 4 years ago.
I have 6 cheap $4 a piece fans running in my pc and it’s dead quiet. People who spend $30+ per fan are insane
That money doesn't mean the same thing to all people, and I've certainly never enjoyed the experience I got with a cheapo fan.
I love my Noctua D15 got it a few generations of CPUs and will use it for my future gaming rigs its just a silent masterpiece for me thanks noctua greetz from germany linus 😊
Their colors and performance is their marketing
Sounds like a skill issue
Even with your sponsor segment, you won't be able to afford one of those desk fans
Noctua is my favorite tech brand
Noctua should just ask reviewers to mention their dedicated support to older products along with the fact Noctua is all about quality anyway hence the price. Consumers that could afford Noctual will value this anyway and likely less swayed by better performance from a potentially cheaper better performing product.
I wonder how the competition tests for long term performance. They release products so rapidly I can only assume not at all or only crudely. Most people wouldn't warranty a cheap fan or cooler anyway, so they can probably count on that.
@ 10.30 i can see Yvonne doing an acting job in a Noctua commercial.
Cool so we essentially having mini AC systems in our PCs now...
Thanks but I'll stick to a Thermalright with 1/3rd the price tag and equivalent performance
I don't know that I've ever heard my power supply's fan.
great segue. all time top 17 for sure.
2:42 at least it isn’t unicorn vomit
No Linus, manufacturers should be applauded for innovation, doing what others are afraid to do, because that's how we get better products.
As predicted, Ice Giant emailed out their existing prototype seemingly in response.
So I'm hoping for some who stole what drama 😂
Linus gets me every time with those segways to our sponsor…. (Well get you one day in person 😎)
as a long time viewer and knowing that you brought up this idea before just made me lose it with the stabbing intro, 10/10
I do wish Noctua went the Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 route with socket 1700 and included a contact frame as part of the mounting system to reduce CPU deformation with the ILM locked down. Arctic's solution isn't perfect, but socket 1700 verifiably benefits from replacing Intel's shitty ILM with a thermalright or thermal grizzly frame, as I can confirm with my 12700K.
Noctua's solution tells me is we're pretty close to reaching "peak air cooler" considering mass-market products are resorting to once enthusiast-only techniques to show a meaningful performance uplift. I respect Noctua's commitment to making sure their products will go the distance, even in severe edge cases. If I'm building a system for reliability and longevity, Noctua is my go-to.
That is the sexiest PSU I've ever seen.
why not make a set of cpu contacts that are generally optimized for a set of die patterns? one for center, one for edge, center & edge, an X shape, etc. this would require more complex design- needing a die contact plate, cpu/mobo bracket, then the cooler to all combine; but this would allow customers to carry coolers from one cpu to another with only needing a new die plate and/or bracket
Yea I actually like the noctua desk fan thing. I don't love the price ...but magnets I guess.
what a beauty
Uploaded two videos within same day. Bro skipped his needs for a day 😂❤
Ive moved my NHD14 between rigs for years. New mount kits are great but Ive always bought them, its a few bucks and just offering them at a reasonable price is more than enough for me to stay with Noctua. For the lack of cooler upgrades, I have more than bought enough fans over the same time period to make up lol.
that segue got me lmao
Can't wait to get the D15 G2 for my I9-14900K. (Would "standard" be the pick for me, i have used a contact frame instead of intel's IHS since the start)
ive missed this in the last few years but does the floating heat pipe and radiator make cooling it that much better then just one sitting on the cpu?
to be fair i've had an a12x25 in my psu for a couple years now. i found an stl that adapts 120mm fans to 135mm spacing and its been doing well in my enermax from 2011
Its really cool, but my old Straight Power 11 PSU doesnt even turn on the fan half the time because of the wattage headroom I left,....so yeah
I just love to read Linus reply on comments! Means he have time to do what he love instead of BS bureaucracy.
I could understand the „just don’t buy it” mentality for Noctua’s HOME fan if they worked. Focusing a fan to that small of an angle is actually bad as if you move even slightly you have to readjust the fan to face you, no other fan has this issue when it blows everywhere vaguely in front of you.
Id say bad take here Linus. The average customer will just get the standard and it will be as you describe, standard and usable for a long time. The other variants satisfy their enthusiast customers, who likely won't be reusing the cooler either, as they would prefer to use updated components every build.
This is Noctua keeping their usual, while ADDING a couple extra options for special users. Nothing but a positive.
....they throw out a power supply after i already bought one...next time...
Linus' statement about these fans not being made out of LCP is false. Noctua originally planned for both components (rotor and frame) to be made out of LCP, but testing showed that it was better for the frame to be made out of traditional materials. The rotor is still made out of LCP though.
i ordered a paperlike yesterday and they gave me the wrong one!!!! had to file for a replacement of the RIGHT product lol gave me a 11 when I ordered a 12.9.
They knew if they added LTT it would probably have a 150% increase on the price 😂😂
got any news on these super thin vibration fans ?
those where so cool last time but didnt hear of them for quite a while
The great part about most of the performance increase being due to the fans means that I could boost my OG NH-D15 with 1 or 2 of those new fans eventually. If my fans ever die, I will definitely upgrade to these new ones.
How many combinations (and SKUs) can a manufacturer come up with? A more "selective product" has to mean "less turn over" and a higher price per unit, right? But does the "higher price" match any performance gain that is in any proportional to the price difference?
Just cause I bought a fractal north doesn't mean I'm sold on brown ngl
What took Noctua so long? They were messing around with their microscopes and closely examining their products just for the title "no1 best cooler in the market".
The price of that PSU 💸💸💸
So how do we get a hold of that file for the desk fan?
Can’t find where to get the 3D printer plans for the fan duct, where can I find it on the noctua website?
I would expect linus to get why we buy noctua.
performance is fairly even with stuff that cost 80% of noctua stuff.
but only with them, you move the mouse, not sure if machine is on or off.
The non flatness of the heatsink, priabbly just better to lap your cpu IHS
Noctua is an exemplary company, they don't pump out new fans and coolers every year, that the customers can/should rush to buy the new shiny/brown thing... they take their time to make a real improvement.
But for the three heat sinks I'll have to side with Linus. When I first heard of the three different shapes for different CPUs I immediately thougt "What when I upgrade my computer/CPU, switching in the process from intel to AMD or vice versa...". I don't want to buy a new cooler, esp. considering the premium build quality and price for Nocuta coolers.
Moreover I wonder how many customers will buy the wrong version by accident.
RIP linus
if Noctua made a threaripper cpu cooler like that for the wrx80 mb id drop koine. 120,140, stainless + copper and id double down.
Seasoning said, “you gotta NOC -TUA, spin on that thing, ya get me?”
where do you get the link for the Desk Fan 3D print?
Expect the Noctua product to be done in uh.. The time Linus' beard is back
is that crowd noise Edited in?