Snorkeling accident on Maui takes the lives of a young Washington couple

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @hyzenthlay713
    @hyzenthlay713 Месяц назад +1356

    That poor boy lost both parents and his baby sister. I hope he lives a good life with his remaining family.

    • @cccaaaa-el5qf
      @cccaaaa-el5qf Месяц назад +10

      He won't.

    • @hyzenthlay713
      @hyzenthlay713 Месяц назад +40

      @@cccaaaa-el5qf That's pessimistic. It is impossible to know that.

    • @cccaaaa-el5qf
      @cccaaaa-el5qf Месяц назад +12

      @@hyzenthlay713 losing 3 family members because they were snorkeling would ruin any life.
      and if there is never a proper investigation... that will hurt even more

    • @tatanayaalexandra6967
      @tatanayaalexandra6967 Месяц назад +13

      Yes he will he will be strong..

    • @JamiJason
      @JamiJason Месяц назад +19

      @@cccaaaa-el5qfJust because you wouldn’t thrive in this situation, doesn’t mean that’ll be the case for him. Luckily he’s very young so while it’ll never be the same of course, it’ll be easier for him to attach himself emotionally to new parental figures.

  • @douglaspinsak1246
    @douglaspinsak1246 Месяц назад +1059

    I wouldn’t recommend for anybody to use those masks. As someone who has done a LOT of free-diving and snorkeling, I will tell you that you want to be regularly spitting your mouthpiece out of your mouth so you can breathe completely fresh snorkel-less air. With these full-face masks, that is not an option. Additionally, you are breathing in a much larger volume of recycled air with the full-face masks than you are with a standard snorkel. All of the aforementioned results in ever-increasing levels of CO2 (carbon dioxide) in your system, and diminished levels of O2 (oxygen).
    Also, the snorkels on these masks are “dry”, meaning they seal when you submerge to keep water out. They can seal at inopportune times and can also jam shut because of sand, which can lead to panic. Rather than merely spitting your mouthpiece out, you have to remove the entire apparatus which can be difficult, or even counter-intuitive, in a state of panic. A state of panic will result in a RAPID increase of CO2, decrease of O2, and lead to feelings of suffocation, or even ACTUAL suffocation. Dry snorkels can also “jam open” and let in an influx of water you’re not prepared for. Not only are full-face masks worse than standard masks/snorkels in panicky situations, they are more conducive to panicky situations.
    There have been numerous deaths over the years linked up to these types of masks; I do not recommend for anybody to use them. Should they be BANNED? That seems excessive to me, but I do think they should come with some sort of warning.

    • @olenaberezhna4997
      @olenaberezhna4997 Месяц назад +41

      Weird that it also had happened to her husband who looked quite strong

    • @alliep4833
      @alliep4833 Месяц назад +7

      O pleeease, if you have a breathing problems, there is an easy solution REMOVE THE MASK and readjust it if necessary.

    • @corirodriquez2889
      @corirodriquez2889 Месяц назад +106

      @@alliep4833this type of snorkel and mask have a strong suction too. With all of this against you, it’s easy to panic especially when your not use to snorkeling.
      Sooo ppplllleeeeassssee keep your rude entitlement to your perfect self.

    • @geminibull888
      @geminibull888 Месяц назад +66

      I’m also an experienced snorkeler and will never use these masks. I followed this product’s evolution when it was just in testing and personally deemed it would be unsuitable for my style. May the couple rest in peace ❤

    • @noelanderson969
      @noelanderson969 Месяц назад +47

      THEY SHOULD BE RECALLED!

  • @susansackrison3139
    @susansackrison3139 Месяц назад +788

    I too almost drowned snorkeling in Maui.
    I too had a full face mask. Started feeling very light headed and panicked swimming fast to get back to shore realized I was heading out to sea. Finally tore the thing off my face and floated on my back until I felt I could breathe again and think straight.
    Slowly made our way back to shore. Gave those masks a terrible review on Amazon and tossed them in the trash.
    My husband had a similar experience. If you love life avoid them.
    they are very badly designed.

    • @NudePostingConspiracyTheories
      @NudePostingConspiracyTheories Месяц назад +4

      Thanks

    • @yvonnecooper5004
      @yvonnecooper5004 Месяц назад +49

      How awful!! I hope they take these off the market. I'm glad you are ok.

    • @yvonnecooper5004
      @yvonnecooper5004 Месяц назад +40

      Is it safe for someone pregnant to go snorkeling?

    • @MrsWH-dz6jy
      @MrsWH-dz6jy Месяц назад

      If experienced, yes.​@@yvonnecooper5004

    • @EC-gy9pv
      @EC-gy9pv Месяц назад +109

      I live on a Big Island, Hawaii and consider myself as a strong swimmer. Full face mask definitely is a culprit here. When I got mine, there was a warning attached - it’s designed for a slow snorkeling and can’t be used while swimming or making any excessive effort while being in water. Had my share of experience with that. The mask really starts suffocating you very fast and your heart rate goes up, CO2 rises, panic kicks in… ocean is unpredictable and when it’s stormy there, this kind of mask quickly becomes your worst enemy.

  • @RationalNon-conformist
    @RationalNon-conformist Месяц назад +633

    This is horrific. I’m so sad for their little boy, touching the photo .. so very sad. This is tragic. Stay close to your children..

    • @californianorma876
      @californianorma876 Месяц назад +8

      no, it is what happens. The ocean is not kind or evil, It is.

    • @ramonacaye2460
      @ramonacaye2460 Месяц назад +6

      😢😢😢😢 broke my heart

    • @bohemiangrl9526
      @bohemiangrl9526 Месяц назад +1

      This is why I never saw divers using that kind of snorkeling always half mask with tube on the side

    • @hellobot67
      @hellobot67 Месяц назад +4

      That's not a touching photo!!!! It's traumatic!!!

    • @Kains_whored
      @Kains_whored Месяц назад

      @@hellobot67that’s what I’m saying ….. !?
      Freaking news was like alright this is gonna be a great shot ….. everyone gonna feel bad … 😮😮
      Freaking. Ruthless and super sad to say the least .. can’t believe they let the baby do that

  • @dizzymindy6024
    @dizzymindy6024 Месяц назад +581

    Could it be any sadder? I am so very, very sorry. What a tragedy. My condolences to the couples son, and to their loved ones.

    • @BAngel-kr2ty
      @BAngel-kr2ty Месяц назад

      Ya I'm so sad over rich imbeciles who are too rich to know about how to do anything properly, or when to not do something 😭😭😂😂

    • @KORRE760
      @KORRE760 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah it could be sadder. It could have been a whole group of pregnant orphans instead

    • @MWish999
      @MWish999 Месяц назад +6

      @@KORRE760 Troll!

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d Месяц назад +4

      Sadder…or STUPIDER?

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d Месяц назад +4

      @@KORRE760pregnant orphans???

  • @mrswilcox2u
    @mrswilcox2u Месяц назад +498

    This is so tragic. I worked at Lahaina Harbor & those full faced masks were banned from being used on the boat!! They are deadly. Please do your research.

    • @miryamishot
      @miryamishot Месяц назад +8

      Why are they dangerous?

    • @pmk8781
      @pmk8781 Месяц назад +45

      @@miryamishot A build up of co2 happens in the masks and the swimmer can pass out and drown.

    • @nancymcmonarch
      @nancymcmonarch Месяц назад +39

      As a casual snorkeler, I SO appreciate you experienced ocean folks warning us about those full-face masks. I'd never even heard of them before today, and if a dive shop dude recommended one, I might have tried it out . . . until now!

    • @mandah2253
      @mandah2253 Месяц назад +4

      Since u worked in that location can u say whether or not kids were school or missing on that recent day...do u know of Hawaii Real estate channel and what's your opinion on those topics?

    • @MoreCoffeePlease.
      @MoreCoffeePlease. Месяц назад +6

      Thank you so much for your feedback. I was just so baffled that snorklers were taken out in conditions dangerous enough for 2 adults to drown. It seems it may have been mask related? Just tragic.

  • @XXtheJUMPoffXX
    @XXtheJUMPoffXX Месяц назад +285

    That thumbnail is heartbreaking

  • @jamslamjordan
    @jamslamjordan Месяц назад +200

    this is very sad + the thumbnail is heart wrenching - i wish this bad stuff never happened

  • @JeronicoGoldmeyer
    @JeronicoGoldmeyer Месяц назад +314

    Please people use a Snorkeling vest if you go out snorkeling. You can buy one online for around $25.00. The way they work is if you panic, you can blow air into the vest with a few breaths to create a flotation vest.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Месяц назад +23

      I used a pool noodle. Surprisingly effective.

    • @GreggsonWong
      @GreggsonWong Месяц назад +35

      Flotation vest (blow-up) would only work for people who are not panicking. The pool noodle is a better idea. But, if you have to rely on any type of flotation device. Then, you have no business being in open water to begin with. Stay on the beach.

    • @JeronicoGoldmeyer
      @JeronicoGoldmeyer Месяц назад +10

      @@GreggsonWong , Try snorkeling with a noodle, it doesn't work, or creates the crappiest Snorkeling experience ever. I have led snorkeling adventures with newbies, and they love the vest. When people panic it's a progressive thing that goes from bad to worse. If people start to panic they at least can float and blow into the vest inflating it. If their panic response is so bad that they can't float, then they probably shouldn't be snorkeling in the first place.

    • @decafmocha211
      @decafmocha211 Месяц назад +20

      You can get a vest with a CO2 cartridge so you just have to pull cord to inflate the vest. Scuba divers use this.

    • @JeronicoGoldmeyer
      @JeronicoGoldmeyer Месяц назад +3

      @@decafmocha211 , Thanks, also I always swim with fins on, otherwise I feel like I am running in sand.

  • @AkS143joyful
    @AkS143joyful Месяц назад +189

    A nightmare
    Lord please hold this child tightly and give him strength

    • @CJSayad
      @CJSayad Месяц назад +9

      Amen 🙏! Their family still have their little boy now, a piece of them literally forever. We don’t always understand why things like this happen. As a mother that’s lost two children in miscarriage, I know God knew best & I’ll see my children again one day. I pray their son knows how much they loved him.

    • @cccaaaa-el5qf
      @cccaaaa-el5qf Месяц назад +4

      Crazy religious people

    • @poempadgett4664
      @poempadgett4664 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@cccaaaa-el5qf
      Hi, I’m an agnostic, now please learn to shut your flap, intolerant jackazz, K?
      And please go and try saying that to some folks of faith at your nearest🕌 and see how that works out for you, lol, but of course, you’re no doubt only so bold and abrasive when anonymous and many miles away, eh? 🙄😆

    • @lowlightevangelist9431
      @lowlightevangelist9431 Месяц назад

      Amen.

    • @CourtneyCurtinMUA
      @CourtneyCurtinMUA Месяц назад

      @@cccaaaa-el5qffunny how only atheists and agnostics leave so many scathing rude comments like that but you never hear comments from religious people dragging atheists and calling them crazy. There’s a reason you’re triggered

  • @kiddomoroll
    @kiddomoroll Месяц назад +285

    that baby is old enough to be grieving, probably so sad and confused as to why his parents suddenly disappeared. devastating

    • @golfberg1
      @golfberg1 Месяц назад

      It's an Infant...Same IQ as a Meatloaf - Grieving Stop It.

    • @maryrankin9869
      @maryrankin9869 Месяц назад +8

      My best bet would be saying prayers for this little lad. He was surrounded by a loving family.

    • @DeeJ841
      @DeeJ841 Месяц назад +1

      😢😢😢 I can’t even imagine.. my son is 20 months
      just heartbreaking

    • @TheGrindcorps
      @TheGrindcorps Месяц назад

      White man go home!

  • @Conspiracymom
    @Conspiracymom Месяц назад +134

    With 15+ years of snorkeling experience I'd never suggest a full face mask especially when expecting, they fog up , can't spit out your mouth piece if needed , plz don't use them if not totally aware of how to. Praying for this beautiful family 😢❤🙏✨️

    • @lifeinthe5-069
      @lifeinthe5-069 Месяц назад +4

      Mine has never fogged up. I practiced in a swimming pool for an afternoon before going into calm sea water where there was a life guard. I was not crazy about the straps and getting the mask off so have switched to mask with quick release buckles. My mask was tested by a European agency for CO2 levels. The EU does a lot of testing and makes standards higher than in the US

    • @almaburns6562
      @almaburns6562 Месяц назад +3

      So did they suffocate in their masks, or drown?

    • @Ketowski
      @Ketowski Месяц назад +2

      @@lifeinthe5-069 Exactly. The standards in America are lower for many things. Then the victims are blamed. The same attitude used to be taken toward children who were preyed upon. It makes little sense.

    • @subrosalite4427
      @subrosalite4427 Месяц назад

      I’m confused too. What happened?

    • @PnwChillin
      @PnwChillin 28 дней назад +1

      Most snorkel masks fog up because they get salt water inside of them or people try to clean them out with salt water. I use a defogger spray or a Johnson & Johnson shampoo and water mixture that prevents fogging. Also, my full face snorkel mask does allow me to blow out any salt water that might get trapped inside, though it very rarely happens. sometimes I snorkel for hours and have never had an issue. But, I have heard a lot of cheap full face snorkel Masks have CO2 problems that do cause people to become disoriented and eventually drown.

  • @VictoriaBaka316
    @VictoriaBaka316 Месяц назад +17

    Seeing the 18 month old look at and touch the picture of his parents (and unborn sis) completely breaks my heart 😭 I am so glad he is blessed with a very loving extended family that will look out for and treasure him

  • @Cersilaria22
    @Cersilaria22 Месяц назад +106

    I don’t think I’d be going snorkelling at 7 months pregnant just incase…..RIP beautiful couple and your little girl Love & Light 😢😢❤❤

    • @jackieo8693
      @jackieo8693 Месяц назад +6

      Me neither!

    • @jdstep97
      @jdstep97 Месяц назад +14

      I'd be scared to even go into the water at 7 months. They were a lovely couple.

    • @jenivettebigham7060
      @jenivettebigham7060 Месяц назад +6

      I went at 6 months. But with a group and a tour guide. My husband is a great swimmer and I had a regular mask on. The tour guide was so amazing he was attentive and made sure I was good. I always had a life jacket. Looking back it was risky. But thank God the tour guide was right by side and of course my husband.

    • @MargotHypnos
      @MargotHypnos Месяц назад +8

      I wouldn't even fly in a plane. But I did have 3 miscarriages. So I stayed put for 9 months. Babymoons and Gender Reveals were not a thing back in my day.

    • @jackieo8693
      @jackieo8693 Месяц назад +4

      @@MargotHypnos exactly what the heck

  • @ADAMSIXTIES
    @ADAMSIXTIES Месяц назад +344

    Don't ever use a full face snorkle mask. They should be banned.

    • @howzit9397
      @howzit9397 Месяц назад +26

      Agreed and especially if you haven’t snorkeled before it’s easily to panic and cause you not to breathe correctly with it on! I dive with regular mask and snorkel those new full mask just looks awkward and dangerous in my opinion

    • @mariacarrizales6457
      @mariacarrizales6457 Месяц назад +8

      @@howzit9397yeap, I agree. I have seen people use them and always wonder. I use the regular mask.

    • @420saralou
      @420saralou Месяц назад +5

      I JUST BOUGHT ONE FOR MY TRIP TO MAUI. I CAN'T USE A REGULAR SNORKEL.

    • @8BitGanker
      @8BitGanker Месяц назад +30

      ​@@420saralouplease try to figure out how to use a regular snorkle.
      The full face masks have problems with clearing co2 from them. If the co2 doesnt get out you will feel like you cant breath and pass out.
      Not worth the risk.

    • @lifeinthe5-069
      @lifeinthe5-069 Месяц назад +9

      @@420saralou. I can’t tolerate a snorkel in my mouth due to jaw/dental issues. I live here and have been using a full mask for 8 years. I agree that a person can panic in one if they aren’t careful. They aren’t designed to use below the surface and can be difficult to remove. I have one with quick release straps.

  • @marylawson8797
    @marylawson8797 Месяц назад +37

    Oh that little boy! He knew his mama and daddy and must be so confused as to why they are gone! He didn’t attach or bond with others; he wasn’t meant to. And now his attachments are gone. Ugh my heart just breaks for him!!!

  • @theveefit
    @theveefit Месяц назад +128

    This story is just so sad and heartbreaking
    Rip Mom+Dad+Baby 💕🤍

  • @emacias1473
    @emacias1473 Месяц назад +56

    Why were they doing these activities on a baby moon? Im pregnant myself and considered a baby moon two hours north of me to st George ut. And it was to literally do absolutely nothing but chill in a pool and get foot rubs. No way would i do any physically active vacation like hiking, boating, snorkeling, swimming in natural waters river, ocean, lake etc. so sad the baby now has to live without them wondering where mommy and daddy are. I have a toddler 17 months and she would be looking for me and thinking about me for days shes actually the reason i decided not to go anywhere the thought of her wondering where im at breaks my heart

    • @NudePostingConspiracyTheories
      @NudePostingConspiracyTheories Месяц назад +2

      Im glad you said it. I was thinking-“What ???”

    • @Rebecca-jq2xy
      @Rebecca-jq2xy Месяц назад

      Tbf i went snorkeling 6 months pregnant. Wouldn't recommend it though, it is very taxing.

    • @Bueller.Bueller.Bueller.
      @Bueller.Bueller.Bueller. Месяц назад

      ​@@Rebecca-jq2xy exactly! And also Not worth the risk of stressing the baby...

    • @LaDimplez91
      @LaDimplez91 Месяц назад

      Exactly! They really left their baby son to go on a baby moon?? Makes no sense...

  • @diamondsandhenna
    @diamondsandhenna Месяц назад +15

    That little boy is gorgeous. They left a beautiful treasure for the world. His family seems like they will do their absolute best to care and love him. Prayers for the family🙏

  • @neftaliperez6300
    @neftaliperez6300 Месяц назад +21

    I am so sorry for the loss. May God give them comfort and strength.

  • @vivl4862
    @vivl4862 Месяц назад +119

    Shouldn't have taken unnecessary risk especially in her pregnant condition. So very sad for them.😔

    • @mizzury54
      @mizzury54 Месяц назад +15

      But he died also. Have you I got a statement to blame him for his death too ?

    • @lindsayschlegel9601
      @lindsayschlegel9601 Месяц назад +6

      Good grief. Why was this comment made? 🙄

    • @MichaelDamianPHD
      @MichaelDamianPHD Месяц назад +7

      ​@@lindsayschlegel9601Because it makes sense maybe?

    • @T.R.27
      @T.R.27 Месяц назад +21

      It does make sense. These people are from Washington, no experience with snorkeling or swimming in the ocean. To do this while inexperienced with this activity and pregnant seems foolish.

    • @serenitygilles7064
      @serenitygilles7064 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@lindsayschlegel9601because of medical facts.

  • @KoGi_huskamutes
    @KoGi_huskamutes Месяц назад +66

    Wow I’ve never known of anyone pregnant snorkeling 😮poor baby my condolences 😢

    • @TrumponSoaksUpRed
      @TrumponSoaksUpRed Месяц назад +18

      When I was pregnant both times I was so cautious I didn’t even dare travel and do city vacations. I was just contented spending weekends at home and in my city. I would only go out for meals on weekends.

    • @Cersilaria22
      @Cersilaria22 Месяц назад +10

      I just commented the exact same I don’t think I’d be taking unnecessary risks at 7 months pregnant, I know snorkelling is. Tiny risk , but STILL a risk I know I would not take RIP 😢😢❤❤

    • @maryrankin9869
      @maryrankin9869 Месяц назад +1

      @@TrumponSoaksUpRed I did everything when I had my four. Depends on your faith and level of confidence.

    • @Cierasoul
      @Cierasoul Месяц назад +3

      It was the masks not her pregnancy.

    • @lmc2375
      @lmc2375 Месяц назад

      And you still don't.

  • @dazzhazz1
    @dazzhazz1 Месяц назад +39

    Never take unnecessary risks like this when pregnant. Stay home.

  • @pamelag7553
    @pamelag7553 Месяц назад +27

    Thank God this dear little boy has his Auntie and other members of his loving family to raise him. Such a tragedy to lose his mom and dad and sister. He will surely see them again in heaven one day. God has a special plan for this dear little boy's life. His family will remind him always how kind his parents were.🙏✝️🫶

    • @crow1994-bl
      @crow1994-bl 12 дней назад

      Stop it with your make-believe, childish, fantasy, religious BS. Grow up!

  • @wowzatrishiebunz
    @wowzatrishiebunz Месяц назад +48

    I almost drowned in Kauai in 1996 and so many tourists do not get proper training on how to do activities in the water. If you boogie board or snorkel, the ocean can easily change leaving you at the mercy of anything. I was not aware of what I needed to know and a lifeguard saved me. I was a lucky one that day.

    • @jenw5557
      @jenw5557 Месяц назад +4

      People should be required to get certified before entering sea waters just like drivers ed. So many deaths can be prevented

    • @wowzatrishiebunz
      @wowzatrishiebunz Месяц назад +3

      @@jenw5557 The lifeguard said someone drowned shortly before my incident and they are trained to look for folks without fins while carrying boogie boards or folks making bad, ignorant choices. Since that day, I don’t swim in the ocean. I agree with you.

    • @asun41966
      @asun41966 Месяц назад +2

      So glad you're ok my god thats terrifying

    • @unlikeavirgin
      @unlikeavirgin Месяц назад +2

      I almost drowned on a tour in Maui. I didnt take one of the wrap around flotation devices. I started struggling and the tour operator wasn’t even paying attention. I held on to my sister and we were able to get back to the boat. ALWAYS take a flotation device. More people have drowned at Molokini then they tell you is what i was told by locals. I believe them. This happened just hours from when I was getting married. Happy to say I’ve been married 8 years now.

  • @ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148
    @ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148 Месяц назад +60

    So so very sorry for both of their family's loss. May the 3 of them rest in piece. 😢😢😢😢

  • @92TampaChick813
    @92TampaChick813 Месяц назад +27

    Poor boy lost both parents and a sister in an instant that brings tears to my eyes 😢

  • @gayemarianesfox2405
    @gayemarianesfox2405 Месяц назад +182

    This is horrible. Please say it properly…THREE lives were lost.

    • @PHN-2024
      @PHN-2024 Месяц назад +1

      According to the Democrats, that Fetus doesn’t have any Rights and could be Legally Aborted at anytime before Birth.

    • @NB-ky5ol
      @NB-ky5ol Месяц назад +38

      Right! The fact that no one recognizes that there were 3 lives’ lost is sad.

    • @PHN-2024
      @PHN-2024 Месяц назад +1

      @@NB-ky5ol The Liberal Media Refuses to acknowledge any Fetus as a Person because it can be legally Aborted in some States up to the time it's Born.

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +24

      @@NB-ky5olthis is a Democrat run State. The baby isn’t a baby until it’s born. I whole heartedly agree with you. A baby is a baby, upon conception. Too bad more of us don’t acknowledge this. God bless you for doing so. There are three souls to grieve.

    • @SeanD808
      @SeanD808 Месяц назад +10

      Not to the Democrats...

  • @elatedjade4141
    @elatedjade4141 Месяц назад +56

    Poor little boy left behind.....

    • @robm2707
      @robm2707 Месяц назад +4

      That’s it I’m not going to watch RUclips videos again. It’s messing up my brain 😢

  • @l.c.3150
    @l.c.3150 Месяц назад +53

    No matter how good of a swimmer you are, always wear a life jacket in the ocean as it is unpredictable.

    • @jenw5557
      @jenw5557 Месяц назад +2

      I will from now on, better safe than sorry

    • @azpersonal
      @azpersonal Месяц назад +2

      This needs to be pinned!

    • @ChrisJericho-yf4db
      @ChrisJericho-yf4db Месяц назад +6

      Defeats the purpose on snorkeling unfortunately. But why she decided to go snorkeling while 7 months pregnant is beyond me.rather stupid choice

  • @stephmartin1148
    @stephmartin1148 Месяц назад +20

    This is so tragic and heartbreaking!! May they rest in peace and their little boy grow up feeling lots of love from his auntie!! ❤

  • @drinny26
    @drinny26 Месяц назад +103

    30 weeks pregnant and snorkeling?

    • @julieli5381
      @julieli5381 Месяц назад +27

      That was my initial reaction too.

    • @Jkstolz
      @Jkstolz Месяц назад +32

      30 weeks pregnant and FLYING 😢 ? RISKY, BOTH SITUATIONS

    • @erincoco612
      @erincoco612 Месяц назад +12

      It's snorkeling......not skydiving. Women are allowed to go swimming. Are ya kidding?!!

    • @carlyisnot
      @carlyisnot Месяц назад +15

      There are risks in anything. When I was in my 20s I went on a boat trip with a friend , it was a reputable tour company here in Australia, but it really seemed a bit dodgy to me, I saw several passengers get in the water and two were swept out away from the area, another boat rescued them, and then I see them try to get an older lady in the water with a broken arm. She is saying she can’t swim because of the arm so they throw her a noodle that she can’t hold on to as she climbs down the ladder and another passenger jumped in to get her. Another guy was stung by a jelly fish and that was enough for me to say no thanks ! The ocean isn’t a joke. There are dangers. And even as a non pregnant young lady I wasn’t getting in that water that day. Freak things can happen anywhere , and even getting in a car is dangerous and can lead to a fatality. But no I wouldn’t have gone flying or snorkeling at 30 weeks esp with another one at home. I don’t understand this baby moon thing ? I was always excited for my babies to come and not feeling I needed some adventure or break before they arrive. But that’s just me.

    • @keonie
      @keonie Месяц назад +24

      ​@@erincoco612it's not about being allowed, it's about a heightened risk of everything. Even wearing high heels.

  • @shakirabells6955
    @shakirabells6955 Месяц назад +21

    When their little boy touching thier photo just break my hearts just so sad 😢😢😢and she's snorkeling 7 months old pregnant in my side I'm not gonna do that even though I know how to swim because you don't know what's down there 😢😢😢 condolence to the family

  • @DrNo-ny5py
    @DrNo-ny5py Месяц назад +12

    I have a 6 yr old son and 2 months pregnant, and this is super sad. I can’t fathom 🙏.
    I hope the son will be loved and cared as he deserves❤
    At least the baby girl is in heaven with her parents but really sad for the son, growing up without parents and loved ones grieving🙏

  • @thandekambhamali6074
    @thandekambhamali6074 Месяц назад +15

    The baby touching that photo 😭 my heart is sore.

  • @IntriguedLioness
    @IntriguedLioness Месяц назад +191

    Having lived in Hawaii the stories of tourists doing things they had never done before like snorkeling, scuba, surfing
    often started with an air of bravado like one can do anything they want on a vacation often end in tragedy.
    You should never try things you're not familiar with in waters that you are not familiar with.
    I share condolences with the family and sorfow for their losses, but do understand Hawaii is not an amusement park for first time experiences. Very sad.

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +9

      Completely agree 110%.

    • @mariacarrizales6457
      @mariacarrizales6457 Месяц назад +11

      @@IntriguedLioness at least not on their own. If anything they should go on a tour with professionals. So sad, as someone born and raised in an Island and now in Florida , same things happen here .

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +12

      @@mariacarrizales6457even with a guide and on a tour, this family made a sadly wrong decision to underestimate their inexperience. Oceans may look calm, but are always hazardous to the ill informed and my goodness, heavily pregnant. That especially was such a tragic decision. Oceans sadly, are very deceiving in their beauty and allure.

    • @mariacarrizales6457
      @mariacarrizales6457 Месяц назад +8

      @@charly3575 agree 💯. Super sad and now their baby boy is an orphan and their baby girl died with them .

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Месяц назад +5

      I mean it kind of is, for tourists. That’s what tourism is all about

  • @cannedheat300
    @cannedheat300 Месяц назад +24

    Snorkeling or swimming in Maui where they were is hella dangerous, and the current took their lives. It’s just sadder that she was pregnant as well.

    • @SOLDOZER
      @SOLDOZER Месяц назад

      Uhh no. The girl with them said it was flat calm you donut.

  • @MariaTorres-tp7xq
    @MariaTorres-tp7xq Месяц назад +7

    It is so sad. May they rest in peace, and may that little boy receive all the love and attention he deserves. 🙏😇

  • @hildadionne8184
    @hildadionne8184 Месяц назад +34

    Snorkeling is not an easy sport. Must be very comfortable in water and breathing without panicking

    • @nancymcmonarch
      @nancymcmonarch Месяц назад +2

      I've never had a problem snorkeling; it was a blast from the very first minute! Highly recommend Catalina; it's lovely there. But damned if I'd ever use a full-face mask.

    • @pamelasmith6221
      @pamelasmith6221 Месяц назад +1

      @@nancymcmonarch the first time I snorkeled it was very difficult. It was hard to “breath” under water. Normally you’d hold your breath so the concept was weird until I got it. Then it was a cool experience.

  • @droger86
    @droger86 Месяц назад +14

    What pregnant woman goes snorkeling.

  • @sarabeescutflowersmore795
    @sarabeescutflowersmore795 Месяц назад +6

    Beautiful couple, beautiful baby . What a huge loss. RIP.

  • @DebbeDs
    @DebbeDs Месяц назад +20

    I never traveled without my young son. Vacations were with him so he could experience the world. I can’t imagine how the boy feels now, his parents left and aren’t coming back.

    • @sdtrekkiegirl
      @sdtrekkiegirl Месяц назад +2

      At least the son is still alive.

  • @MatthewRoser-Brown
    @MatthewRoser-Brown Месяц назад +28

    There’s something weird about the couple’s reaction that was with them out on the water. Strange smiles. Makes me uncomfortable.

    • @bettygachao9596
      @bettygachao9596 Месяц назад +8

      Very weird.,I noticed that as well... especially the man.

    • @lolapop2010
      @lolapop2010 Месяц назад +4

      I didn't think they sounded creepy or suspicious. Just not particularly intelligent/articulate.

    • @TreeHugger27
      @TreeHugger27 Месяц назад +3

      I noticed that too, very weird.

    • @lauraleelewis6526
      @lauraleelewis6526 Месяц назад

      You read my mind, but I felt bad for thinking that. Glad I'm not the only one!

  • @maryellenbeale2188
    @maryellenbeale2188 Месяц назад +63

    I thought you weren't supposed to fly at that stage in a pregnancy. I wouldn't think snorkeling either. So sad

    • @joevann7365
      @joevann7365 Месяц назад +13

      25-year-old man and his pregnant 26-year-old wife were out of their minds

    • @angelarich8455
      @angelarich8455 Месяц назад +9

      Yes first flying that far and then snorkeling in the ocean the next day. Who does that? She was too far along

    • @smidgen
      @smidgen Месяц назад

      @@angelarich8455 babymoons are quite a trend these days, especially to hawaii

    • @sparkythancztwise
      @sparkythancztwise Месяц назад +7

      what's really sad is that *you* and those other two couldn't refrain from such thoughts and then went so far as to type them out and post them here publicly
      shameful comments
      My condolences to the family and friends of the couple who perished.

    • @wuncieadams1352
      @wuncieadams1352 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@sparkythancztwisethat's not sad. It is good to post thoughts about having common sense and avoiding needless tragedies. Caring parents would not have left their baby to go snorkeling. That statement is true though unpopular. It is the elephant in the room that causes figurative blindness. I pray for the child left behind and the aunt and other survivors. May God bless and heal them. In Jesus' name Amen.

  • @NalaniIsaacs
    @NalaniIsaacs Месяц назад +10

    I'm sorry for your loss..my deepest condolences to you and your family..

  • @africanqueenmo
    @africanqueenmo Месяц назад +50

    Pregnant and snorkeling with a young child waiting? At what point do we bear responsibility?

    • @MichaelDamianPHD
      @MichaelDamianPHD Месяц назад +16

      I agree. Very foolish. I guess people don't stop to think, well, what if something happens and we both drown?

    • @africanqueenmo
      @africanqueenmo Месяц назад +10

      @@MichaelDamianPHD very self centered and always trying to prove a point and challenge conventional wisdom

    • @starrystarrynight6281
      @starrystarrynight6281 Месяц назад +8

      When you’re young you feel invincible.

    • @fulanichild3138
      @fulanichild3138 Месяц назад +6

      Snorkeling is not that dangerous IF you have experience. You should always get experience and test new equipment in a swimming pool or in very shallow water with people around you to help if you have difficulty.

    • @jandramardges3368
      @jandramardges3368 Месяц назад +5

      @@fulanichild3138. Perfect answer. Try things out. Get familiar with the equipment. Practice a bit. Think about what you are doing and the dangers involved.

  • @minilatinname
    @minilatinname Месяц назад +38

    That’s sad. This is also why parents should stop participating in activities that could be dangerous if they can be avoided. This was 100% preventable

    • @carmenvljn
      @carmenvljn Месяц назад +1

      You mean like driving a car

    • @MsAwesome6814
      @MsAwesome6814 Месяц назад +3

      You have a point, I asked my mom to go snorkeling with me she said her life insurance doesn’t pay if something happens to her while snorkeling.

    • @minilatinname
      @minilatinname Месяц назад +1

      @@carmenvljn as I said, if they can be avoided

  • @bigtaiho
    @bigtaiho Месяц назад +128

    Politicians in Hawaii need to step up and ban these full face masks. Also, most locals do not snorkel in this area...Maui is not Disneyland

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +13

      And neither should inexperienced dreamers think that our ocean is going to fulfill their wishes, when they have no experience snorkeling in it. Who decided to put that mask on? The mask or the person?

    • @SeanD808
      @SeanD808 Месяц назад +3

      Hawaii is a joke... let's be real...

    • @douglaspinsak1246
      @douglaspinsak1246 Месяц назад +5

      I don’t know that they should be outright banned, but they should definitely come with a warning. I personally would never use one, or even a “dry snorkel” for that matter (prone to jamming and inopportune closing); but multitudes of people have used the full face masks without incident. There are certain benefits to the full-face masks, and certain people with mouth/jaw issues can ONLY use these types of snorkels. I would rather warn people and let them make their own decision.

    • @Uilani-g4m
      @Uilani-g4m Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, lets keep telling the government to rule over us peasants because we, peasants, are so stupid. Not everything that happens is the government's fault, like making stupid choices.

    • @djw5415
      @djw5415 Месяц назад +1

      No why do people always want the government to take their rights away. Do you really think government is always the answer?

  • @prometheusrex1
    @prometheusrex1 Месяц назад +3

    So sorry for this loss. So much heartache. Wishing their families comfort during this horrible time.

  • @Christina_320
    @Christina_320 Месяц назад +6

    Poor kid. So sad. Deepest Condolences. I hope he’s the next superhero.

  • @scgamerd
    @scgamerd Месяц назад +6

    Oh man. Seeing the baby looking at the picture of their parents is just heart breaking

  • @apepex1464
    @apepex1464 Месяц назад +74

    The state should ban these full face mask, they are dangerous. Regular snorkels can be spit out and allow you to go up for air, these face huggers are restricting when you’re panicking and try to gasp for air.

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +8

      No, that would presuppose that most everyone using them would die. This family’s decision to go snorkeling without experience is responsible, not the mask.

    • @SOLDOZER
      @SOLDOZER Месяц назад

      Go up for air? LOL Youre already up.

  • @katharina1439
    @katharina1439 Месяц назад +20

    Who does that 30 weeks pregnant?????? WTF! The baby can come out at week 36 normally!🤨 WHO DOES THAT 6 WEEKS BEFORE DELIVERY? SHE SHOULD GET THE NURSERY READY. I don't think an airline would even take her at 30 weeks

    • @MargotHypnos
      @MargotHypnos Месяц назад +2

      I don't believe it is medically recommended.

  • @Lovercoffee
    @Lovercoffee Месяц назад +4

    So sad. Please give this boy all the love in the world for the rest of his life😢😢

  • @chubbygirl9971
    @chubbygirl9971 Месяц назад +25

    Wear life vests if you dont know how to swim.

    • @SeanD808
      @SeanD808 Месяц назад +7

      Even though I am a good swimmer I bring a boogie board with me when I go... never had to use it just drag it behind me...

    • @BambiBryant
      @BambiBryant Месяц назад +4

      Always wear a life jacket. Period. My husband and I are always the only wears to do so. We saved a life on our honeymoon cuz a dad scraped against stinging coral, panicked and took on water, so I took my jacket off and gave it to him then I held onto my husband on the way back. His kids were crying on the boat after cuz they almost lost their dad.

    • @acs4410
      @acs4410 Месяц назад

      @@BambiBryantagree, swimmer or not swimmer just wear the life jacket

  • @af612
    @af612 Месяц назад +5

    Omg what tragedy so very sad exspecially for their son. Tears went rolling seeing that baby touch his parents picture. I wish things like this did not happen.
    If bad happens it should be to the people that are bad not people like this. Im just in tears. Praying for this family and baby boy.🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭

  • @TeresaNaeole
    @TeresaNaeole Месяц назад +13

    Blessings to that little boy 😢❤

  • @PollyVaj
    @PollyVaj Месяц назад +5

    My deepest prayer goes out to the family and their son.

  • @RosaLove-yl6om
    @RosaLove-yl6om Месяц назад +3

    Truly heartbreaking all around ✝️ My most sincere condolences to all their loved ones🙏🏽 I pray their son grows up with an immense strength within him and is surrounded by sincere love always 🙌🏽

  • @proudparrotparent815
    @proudparrotparent815 Месяц назад +1

    RIP beautiful couple and baby girl . Condolences to their precious son an family . 🙏

  • @nialoren1651
    @nialoren1651 Месяц назад +4

    May the spirits of this couple & unborn child be at peace. Incredibly heartbreaking 😢

  • @DeidresStuff
    @DeidresStuff Месяц назад +7

    The currents are dangerous there. A man died when my family was there once, and my uncle nearly died on another trip, but luckily my dad was with him and was a very strong swimmer and was able to save him.

  • @ashleykclark
    @ashleykclark Месяц назад +4

    Snorkeling while PREGNANT?!! My goodness sending love, and light💗

  • @angiefatafehi7841
    @angiefatafehi7841 Месяц назад +3

    This is the most saddest news i have ever heard. My heart is so broken for Logan . May God be with this family and may little Logan receive all the love one could possibly receive and more.

  • @AishawithanEye
    @AishawithanEye Месяц назад +42

    That's a crazy spot to snorkel, even when calm. 0_0

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад +11

      No matter how many warnings, visitors cannot understand how hazardous even a calm ocean can be. They just don’t get it.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Месяц назад +1

      @@charly3575idk why. I always believe that kind of thing, especially about things idk much about like the ocean.

    • @SOLDOZER
      @SOLDOZER Месяц назад

      Ive seen good size surf on Kaanapali Beach pounding tourist. Ambulance carting them off left and right. No matter how many got carted off they still kept jumping in it. You cant fix stupid.

  • @gabriellej593
    @gabriellej593 Месяц назад +14

    I was in Maui 2 months ago and I could tell swells were kinda big and the current was strong. I decided to just dip in and dip out twice for short periods I was surprised how many people allowed their kids out in the water. I’m a strong swimmer but also I know what these rip tides can do. If I know the land and water that’s a different story, but I don’t.

    • @SOLDOZER
      @SOLDOZER Месяц назад

      Uhhhh...cool story but has nothing to do with this.

  • @yvonneerrend8217
    @yvonneerrend8217 Месяц назад +4

    I'm sorry for your losses!. This is deeply sad.😢😢😢

  • @Nimue333
    @Nimue333 Месяц назад +4

    Poor baby, I hope his aunts and uncles give him a good loving life!

  • @stephaniewong5848
    @stephaniewong5848 Месяц назад +27

    Comfort and love to the families. 🙏❤️

  • @Cindy-sl5rl
    @Cindy-sl5rl Месяц назад +19

    Snorkeling when 7 months pregnant?
    Sad... May they RIP ... and God Bless their little one. 😭

    • @subalidarcy
      @subalidarcy Месяц назад

      Pregnant women can snorkle no problem , in fact exercise in the water is easier than exercise on land as you are weightless.

    • @ChrisJericho-yf4db
      @ChrisJericho-yf4db Месяц назад

      Yeah but risky and stupid. Just like the cavedivers who have kids and decide their going to go cavediving all the time.

    • @ChrryCola-ln5uq
      @ChrryCola-ln5uq Месяц назад

      @@subalidarcyofc you came to white knight

    • @LunaBella2006
      @LunaBella2006 21 день назад

      @@subalidarcy Well, I guess there was a problem, she died. It's ok to swim in a safe and not to deap water.

  • @kimberlyreed461
    @kimberlyreed461 Месяц назад +11

    My God, such a sad story. My prayers and hugs are with the families of those lost. God bless.

  • @fullarmourC
    @fullarmourC Месяц назад +24

    Why are you going snorkeling at 30wks pregnant? Who does this? KMT

  • @jlvandat69
    @jlvandat69 Месяц назад +87

    Very strange accident......both people drowned? One possibility is that the wife had trouble and panicked, and the husband tried to save her but was pulled down. A drowning victim can generally only be saved with some form of buoyancy. Very, very sad.

    • @trishhamilton2049
      @trishhamilton2049 Месяц назад

      complacency, they trusted it would all be good. They did not bother to learn the gear or the sport, just jumped in trusting everything whole heartedly. After the last 4 almost 5 years I trust no one but my family

    • @ameliawilder28
      @ameliawilder28 Месяц назад +15

      I think the masks had something to do with it.

    • @8BitGanker
      @8BitGanker Месяц назад +27

      Someone said they heard a scream, I feel like the mask caused co2 buildup and the husband passed out in the water, the wife tried to help him but exhausted herself and may have been dealing with co2 issues as well from her mask.

    • @jonjones9072
      @jonjones9072 Месяц назад +1

      @8BitGanker Nah, that’s not what happened.

    • @MWish999
      @MWish999 Месяц назад +7

      @@jonjones9072 And you would know 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tamaravukcevic2236
    @tamaravukcevic2236 Месяц назад +11

    Completely avoidable tragedy...Snorkeling at seven months pregnant...what they were thinking? Now,one boy is scared for life by losing his dad,mom and little sister,who didn't even get the chance to live...I'm sad and mad at the same time!

  • @laurymakesaway6695
    @laurymakesaway6695 Месяц назад +4

    This story is devastating😢

  • @NB-ky5ol
    @NB-ky5ol Месяц назад +11

    Swimming deaths are often so mysterious. My prayers for their family.

  • @BriannaWilliams-v4f
    @BriannaWilliams-v4f Месяц назад +3

    Made me very sad, protect that precious baby ❤

  • @koalasez1200
    @koalasez1200 Месяц назад +2

    30 weeks. That poor mother and dad….her horror at what was happening. May all three rest in peace….may their memories comfort their loved ones and little boy.

  • @bethhayes1
    @bethhayes1 Месяц назад +10

    Absolutely heartbreaking!!

  • @jennifertheobald9823
    @jennifertheobald9823 Месяц назад

    This is just heartbreaking! A beautiful family spending time together, being happy, preparing for a new baby girl, planning the future. Just heartbreaking. Makes feel so terribly sad for the little boy. Thinking of him being still so little and wondering where his mom and dad are.

  • @raytang76
    @raytang76 Месяц назад +18

    Wow...unbelievable tragic story! Thoughts and prayers to the families!

  • @JayG88
    @JayG88 Месяц назад +1

    This is so sad😢 praying for precious Logan. May he continue to be surrounded by loving family members.

  • @suzypos4571
    @suzypos4571 Месяц назад +16

    Prayers for the children of these parents who were lost 🙏

  • @romeosjewel
    @romeosjewel Месяц назад +2

    There are no words. So extremely devastating. They just wanted one last vacation before the birth of their baby girl. My condolences to the family.

  • @NickyRikki
    @NickyRikki Месяц назад +4

    I went to north Egypt with my husband in Sinai 7 months pregnant and they wouldn’t let me go snorkeling which of course I wouldn’t have gone anyways. But safety first.

  • @marcelaramirez2124
    @marcelaramirez2124 23 дня назад

    I’m terribly sorry. I feel terrible for that precious baby boy 😭😭😭😭
    My condolences to the family !

  • @Lkdnh
    @Lkdnh Месяц назад +65

    Those masks are not good.I thought they stop making and using those. This is not the first time someone has drowned with these masks. I think it causes CO2 buildup

    • @charly3575
      @charly3575 Месяц назад

      Who made the decision for them to go snorkeling and put those masks on? Blaming the mask is like blaming the gun. It’s the person behind it making the decisions that is responsible.

    • @PnwChillin
      @PnwChillin 28 дней назад

      Some brands are cheap and dangerous, other companies make phenomenal and safe full face masks. Just like ANY product.

  • @Homehaven3
    @Homehaven3 Месяц назад +1

    May God love and protect this precious baby in the days and weeks ahead.

  • @MeMeDaVinci
    @MeMeDaVinci Месяц назад +3

    There is no way would I attempt snorkeling, especially while pregnant. I am sure it seemed like a good idea but look at the turn for the worse it took. Both parents...the odds are astronomical.

  • @elainesmith7512
    @elainesmith7512 Месяц назад

    This is so sad and TRAGIC. My DEEPEST and SINCEREST sympathies to their loved ones, especially their baby boy!! May God bless him and keep him throughout his life. 😢🙏❤❤

  • @irina.a.b
    @irina.a.b Месяц назад +3

    I've never could imagine that innocent snorkeling can take lives😢

    • @toliveischrist950
      @toliveischrist950 Месяц назад

      I lived in Hawaii and snorkeled often. The currents are insanely strong. Right equipment keeps you from dying out there.

  • @gwendolynhendfield99
    @gwendolynhendfield99 Месяц назад +2

    Praying for almighty God's comfort and peace for this beautiful family😭😭😭 Deepest and heartfelt condolences..May God grant the entire family His comfort and strength during this difficult time 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️

  • @audreyanolfo1016
    @audreyanolfo1016 Месяц назад +4

    Its SO sad. I worked for a snorkel rental company here on maui for two years and we never rented full face masks Any time a guest asked about them we always expressed the dangers. In fact no tours or rental places on the island do. They should be banned from being sold in hawaii.

    • @SOLDOZER
      @SOLDOZER Месяц назад

      Im betting they bought them off Amazon. Ive never seen any shop or rental company on Maui renting full face.

  • @arati5156
    @arati5156 Месяц назад +2

    So so sad 😢 many prayers for the family and the little boy who lost his whole world

  • @Readit4Life_2Chron7_14
    @Readit4Life_2Chron7_14 Месяц назад +4

    Tragic. Sorry to hear this. Praying for those left behind to recover & find peace through their faith. Certified SCUBA diver here. There is false sense of security that somehow comes from folks using snorkeling equipment thinking it's safer & no need to have either a swim buddy or snorkel near others who are also snorkeling in the ocean. Always stay near others. RIP tide? Maybe. But remember a person who is drowning will "latch on" to anyone nearby with incredible force. Therefore the "rescuer" is unsuspecting of this death-grip of a panicking, drowning person and then they both drown. One must view the drowning person, and then go deeper underneath and from BEHIND that person and grasp them under the arms from behind and swim a sidestroke and never let that person TURN toward you as they will grasp you & you both may drown. If you must approach them from the front, then, at the last minute, dive under the water and come up behind them. This step is vital because someone who is struggling in the water will attempt to climb up on top of you to try to get out of the water. In doing so, they will likely drown you. Take a YMCA or swimmer's course on how to rescue someone in open water. Gotta have your wits about you - to think and react quickly when something dangerous or difficult happens unexpectedly - IF you're diving or snorkeling anywhere. Period.

  • @FullFrontalFromage
    @FullFrontalFromage Месяц назад

    This is one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever heard. They were so excited to grow their young family. I just want to hug that little boy. I wonder how much trauma he’s endured missing his parents, his mommy the most. Rest in peace little Melody who never got to be born. My heart.

  • @eli08miqui09
    @eli08miqui09 Месяц назад +5

    I have 4 or 5 of those masks, and sometimes they can play against you. If something blocks the airway a little or if you tilt your head back a little you can’t breath. It covers the airway fast, and once it’s blocked you can’t unblock it until you exhale. I almost died with one of those masks and I have plenty of practice with them. I am so sorry for the loss. Poor baby has no parents and no sister now.

  • @Jeneawhite.
    @Jeneawhite. Месяц назад

    Absolutely heartbreaking. Prayers and joy to the family.

  • @sugarcope4253
    @sugarcope4253 Месяц назад +3

    One thing I learned when planning our trip to Maui is you can’t go snorkeling right after flying. I had heard that about scuba diving but not snorkeling. It causes what is called rapid onset pulmonary edema or ROPE. Always snorkel and scuba a couple days after a long flight

  • @ptulip
    @ptulip Месяц назад +1

    I have never snorkled and I don' think i want to now. How awful for this lovely family.