I was going to mention these vehicles are commonly used for fleet/level rep purposes and I have also seen them with well over 500,000 miles. The dashboard will be lit up like a Christmas tree, but it will still be going down the road 😂
I just learned That these have an ecvt which uses electric motors rather than a belt and pulleys supposedly much more simple to fix and more reliably designed!
Yes the New Honda 2liter Crv hybrid doesn't even have a drive belt or starter because everything is done by electric including the transmission except in direct drive for speeds over 65 mph or something like that.
@@davewilson7602Honda and Toyota still definitely use regular crappy near unserviceable CVTs so they don’t get a pass. Their hybrid drive units on the other hand I’m not sure if they have a typical CVT.
@@radiofreemongoliaofficial I strongly agree. I've got an old Dodge with 350k; just had the engine rebuilt. My dad's Tacoma has 300k, and both my mom's Accords had 460k and 200k. Basic maintenance can take you to the moon and back, especially with a manual transmission! :)
It's actually ready to drive. The EVCT passed its checks. Might be worthwhile to see if it needs fluid. It's rare for the transmission to fail. BTW, the 470v battery is very valuable and should NOT be run through the crusher (you probably know this as it's a major fire hazard).
One thing about the odometer on this car is you never know how many miles are on the engine. That odometer is combined mileage from gas and electric power. But this car will run on either solely. (Odometer is driven from transmission, not the engine)
Unless you have a home or workplace very close to your home and have CONSTANT ev charging. If your trips are 20 miles or less you can drive without gas easy.
Our Fusion hybrid (non 🔌 plug in) runs about 85% of the time on gas. That 15-20% of electric ⚡️ only running makes a major difference in fuel efficiency. Hybrid is the way to go for fuel economy. The US isn’t ready as a whole for full EV.
Specific type of hybrid cars. This Ford, and many Toyota Hybrids use a planetary gear set instead of a traditional CVT or transmission that is significantly more robust than traditional transmissions. While yes, you will need to replace the battery pack every once in a while, the money saved on fuel more than makes up for the cost of battery repair/replacement.
How reliable has it been for you? What have you had to fix on it? Im looking for a first car for myself and ive noticed 2014-2016 ford fusions are pretty nicely priced for around 85k-105k miles and i want it to last me a while i dont want my first car to just be a piece of junk that craps out after 2 years
@@aircranekris I found a 2013 Fusion on CarMax a few years ago with only 17K miles on it. In 3 years I have added nearly 50K miles. If you avoid the EcoBoost engined cars you should easily see similar mileages to this Hybrid. BTW, these don't use the troublesome transmission Ford put in Fiestas and Focuses. Just keep the fluids changed regularly and it will run nearly forever. Mine currently averages about 30-34 MPG.
@howardkerr8174 what is wrong with the eco boosts exactly? I have taken your word for it and have been looking at non eco boosted ones and thats typically only the S model, but i actually kinda want an se as it gets some nice features ig, but i dont plan on using this car forever just enough for me to get into life ig, maybe at least another 5-7 years of just driving to work and stuff not too much
@@howardkerr8174 to add to what i said about the SE having features, i have noticed on some SE fusions that they have some stuff the titanium would have like the speedometer in the middle and the nice touch display. But others dont have those while still being SE models
I'm at 180k now with no problems what so ever and I've been getting anxiety for no reason thinking it's nearing end of life. I guess I'll hold off on the anxiety for a few hundred thousand more miles.
I love how one good example suddenly means every car powered the same way MUST be just as reliable as the one example on hand...
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And he's not pointing out the thing he usually either. Most of the junked cars there aren't because of dead engines and transmissions, its because they're rotted out. All I can take away from this is this car's body is built to far better standards than they used to be or less it'd still have been headed for the crusher at 170+k.
The way I see it... I personally had plenty of vehicles myself with that many miles on it that weren't hybrids. But what I find interesting about it is thats it's a ford. Everybody wants to talk about how great Toyota hybrids are bit there sits a fusion with that many miles on it. And it's not like they made millions of them. Awesome, someone should tell him that an electric car and a hybrid aren't the same thing. If the electric motors battery dies on most hybrida, it still moves
Personally, I believe Hybrid is the best solution, since it's the best of both worlds, Gas and Electric
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Yep, I'd agree there. If you literally only trot to and from the shops and you don't really care about luxury then a little ev makes sense. But if you use it for bigger trips and need the flexibility and comfort a larger hybrid makes way more sense.
If you look at carfax reports on the 2nd gen ford fusion hybrids 2013 to2020 you will see relatively few repairs and almost no hybrid battery replacements...later models are super reliable.
The energi is slightly different than the non plug in. Hybrid always uses the gas engine. The energi plug in can run on the battery alone for a 50 mile range. So an energi with 450 on it doesn't necessarily mean the engine has 450 on it.
Not 50 mi. I literally own a 2015 and my range is 20, but older battery. It’s meant to be maxed at 25mi. 50mi would be an absolutely lovely gain but no fusions have that range battery only. Yet.
@@lawgetaI’m thinking of getting one. Do they charge while you drive or do you have to plug it in? And what’s your mpg if you don’t plug it in? Thank you.
@@FoxSquad32 Sorry for the long wait. If you find one, understand that they're still not cheap lol. A Prius (be careful of model years!) may get you about 10mpg difference BUT these cars are fantastic nonetheless. Since it's still a Hybrid even though it's also a plugin: you can occasionally see the car charging while it drives. Of course like all other hybrids it recharges while braking and an added bonus is that if you put it in Low gear (I only put it in low while in city traffic) you can regain even more battery power when coming to a stop PLUS additional braking assistance compared to just using the brakes. I plug mine in occasionally, and if I don't: not to worry. It still has a hybrid battery function. Ez 8/10 in my book. I still prefer my Escape 2011 Hybrid but I enjoy knowing I can plug this good gal in and save gas. My Escape was pretty good on MPG's too but it lacked a plugin feature which I was adamant about AND it loses about 10mpg compared to the Fusion Plugin.
totally agree! at least with anything new! i have a ford fusion in the carport that attached to my garage that has engine problems! its my roomates old car and he bought it from a dealer with like 165000 miles on it and after like 2000 miles of driving it it devoloped that issue! its currently being used as a strorage shed!
I own a 2011 Ford Fusion SEL with the inline 4. And I baby the car and make sure everything is maintained and on schedule. The car has 167,000 miles on it and has never let me down once. It still drives the exact same way as when I got it. I hope it lasts to that many miles. I honestly love these cars. I love mine also so much I painted the spoiler on mine blue and got NASCAR type wheels for it and repainted the roof blue because it had a tiny bit of surface rust.
This car is in nice shape for a few reasons. 1st. The car isn't from a rust belt state. 2nd. Where was this car driven? City ? Country ? Where it is driven, put different wear and tear on it. 3rd Was the car privately owned or fleet/ tax, etc, owned ? 4th How was this car maintained? Curious what year is this car?
This is the thing. Most of the older junked cars come to this yard because they're rotted out. Most of them (even the 90s stuff and before) run and drive perfectly well and likely would hace reached bigger miles and beyond. We also don't know how many repairs or replacement parts this car has had. All I can take away from this is that Ford in more recent years are building some properly decent corrosion resistant cars.
2015 still on original (I think) with 200,000+ on the dash and gives me absolutely no problems. Just changed the fluid today too. We’re good over here.
My 07 Fusion was just an old gas getter. It had 390k on it with zero dash lights when I sold it 3 years ago to the neighbors kid. He still has it. Yeah he's beat it up quite a bit but it's still going strong.
Including the mileage driven on all electric or just when the car drives on gas? That is not really much better than a Sienna Hybrid, which is much bigger and does around 37 MPG and doesn't require charging. Probably you are driving beyond the range too much, negating the economy on electric.
My teacher, had a Prius with 400,000 miles on it and the rest of the car was still good but we’re up here in Vermont so it rotted out before it had any mechanical problems
These things don’t die!! I was a technician at Ford and I’ve seen so many with well over 200,000 miles that just have no issues. I own one and I’ve had 50,000 miles of no problems. The only downside is they have just about 20 miles of electric range.
Hybrids are typically more reliable and longer lasting than their gas counterparts. The only exception appears to be Honda who has a history with their hybrids being less reliable than their gas versions.
I can only hope mine lasts that long. I own a 2019 FUSION Energi Titanium currently going on 55k nothing but oil changes, tires and brakes. I drive as a Med Cab driver and average 150 miles a day x 6 a week. Love this tho!! Ford or Toyota I own both they are they same stuff just licensed.
Im driving uber in a 2018 hybrid and doing around the same daily miles as you. Im at about 150k still going strong without a single issue. Also still getting 40+mpg which is surprising because thats supposed to come down with use as the battery ages.
My 1986 Toyota truck was running fine with 374,000 miles and the only reason I changed engines because it is leaking oil everywhere. Now it’s got 387,000 and I’m still driving it every day.
@@RayLeejr i got a remanufactured new engine from summit racing. it come with a 3 years unlimited mile warranty. so far i have drove it 12,000 miles. runs grate!
I’m getting ready to get a plug in hybrid. We have free charging at work. 13 miles one way. I can almost drive round trip for free. Plus there is still a 4k dollar tax credit on the plug in hybrids right now
I read an article a while back where they did some sort of check on taxi vehicles in New York and they found that most of them were ford hybrids with over 400,000 miles on them and when asked what maintenance they had done to keep them going for so long they basically said "uhhh ... what maintenance?" lol More or less these guys were running the cars nonstop barely ever turning them off much less going in for maintenance.
@@ISP718qmy 2018 just crossed 100k and at like 92k my electronic steering rack went out, what mileage did yours go out? I bought a used one with 30k miles on it for 200$ which was nice cause new motorcraft is 6x that
@@elijahevo6859 I’m at 276,000 miles now 2014 hybrid non energy owned the car since 26,000 miles. My electronic rack went out at 217,000 miles, and my brake vacuum pump went out at 228,000 miles.. the 2 pricey items so far. I bought new oem rack for $1100 and paid $400 install and $150 program like $1600ish.. not bad dealer wanted $3k
@@alanaleshire7561 I did the trans fluid at 150k and it was clean as hell. I’m at 284k now. Trans feels great. I’m going to wait until 350k to flush it again. The fluid doesn’t burn up in these. The next thing I’m due for all engine mounts very soon.
They say the E-cvt is basically bullet proof and it doesn’t really matter who makes it. Because all Toyota/Lexus cars with it last forever, and all Ford cars with it last forever….
Reminds me of LED lightbulbs. LED bulbs were supposed to last forever until the industry figured out how to make them last the same length as the old bulbs. I'm almost positive the same thing will happen to EVs and hybrids. Making things last forever is bad for business.
If you are constantly burning out LED light bulbs prematurely, have an electrician check your house's wiring. That can be the sign of serious wiring problems, possibly dangerous ones. As for having cars last a very long time, Toyota is still printing money last time I checked.
Plenty of guys with 700k + on their dodge and ford trucks, and the Chevy 6.0 is an awesome motor, guys have reported up to 600k on all from factory parts
@@curiousnomadic So what?? So because most trucks are used as daily work vehicles that haul loads or pull trailers that needs much more power and RANGE than the current EV market offers. You obviously have no clue how much fossil fuels are required to build an EV vehicle or the EPA impact of the battery disposal.
@@rod1499 "So what?"? So it's wasting them money and keeping them broke with the amount of gas they spend on them.. Whose talking about EVs? With the distance they are going and maybe the terrain maybe hybrid Subarus but these trucks are keeping them down just like alcohol and white man's food giving them diabetes. No way. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. I've known factory workers all of whom owned trucks and 95% of them haul nothing with them. Now if I had one I'd actually use it to haul manure, dirt, wood, furniture, and other things. But I'd want a smaller one with a lower tailgate like the older Rangers and a stick shift that can get 30mpg. The Ford Maverick makes sense but who can get ahold of one right now?
American trucks are huge profit centers and have been the cornerstone for American automotive industry. American cars as a whole have not been as reliable over years and mileage as American trucks have been. Exceptions have been pretty much Ford products. Fusion hybrid line, Panther platform when those were made were rock solid reliable. Chrysler cars have been 💩 for decades. GM trucks need transmissions every 100k miles unless the lifters fail and need overhauls. 3.6 v6 need timing chain issues among other bs problems.
Take a moment to go back and listen carefully, he says you won’t get 400 thousand out of any gas, then a long pause, and then he says fusion, in other words, he acknowledges other cars with superior reliability such is the case with Toyota.
The ford fusion hybrid is basically a Toyota is fords clothing. Most of the hybridiness was borrowed from Toyota and the cvt transmissions will last forever if you change the fluid regularly in these. You may ask if it was so good why did ford stop making them, and that’s because they could make way more off of an SUV or truck.
Im nearing 101k miles on my 2018 hybrid, only things is two purge valve replacement s and an electronic steering rack failure. I noticed my battery is a bit week so my gas mileage doesnt touch 40 mpg anymore
@Elijah Evo if you're under 42mpg, your high voltage battery is bad. Ford won't replace them. You can still drive it for another 50 to 75k miles though, but like you said, electric torque, electric range, and mpg will be greatly reduced. The 80% law of EVs doesn't apply to hybrids. If you ask me, I'd rather had ford make the battery pack host 50-75% more cells, preferably LiFePo4 (cheaper lithium iron cells at 3.2V) instead of the expensive 3.7V lithium cells that use cobalt. If you look at the battery pack, its so small. 1/3rd of it is the controller. They could have easily extended the pack by another 50 cells and it would still have fitted in the trunk! They could double the battery pack, and tilt the controller part at 90 degrees, and it still would have fit. Anyway, I replaced my lead acid with a 12.8V 50Ah Lithium battery. All it needs is just 2 diodes on the positive side (dropping the 14.4V charge voltage down to 13.9V, and dropping the 13.3V battery voltage to 12.8V. Mpg went up. You can also charge up the 12v battery with a trickle charger to 13.35V, and the car won't waste high voltage battery energy, trying to recharge the 12v. The 12v lead acid is a big drain on the high voltage battery pack.
@Elijah Evo other than the 12v, I bought another second hand high voltage battery, but am still running on the original at reduced performance and mpg. I really had zero maintenance. Not even the spark plugs. Spark plugs are rated for 100k miles, however, the engine is on only 60% of the time, and the engine rpm usually doesn't exceed 2k rpm at acceleration, or 1500rpm at cruising. Which leads me to believe the spark plugs are good for at least 150k miles.
@@ProDigit80 I replaced for the first time ever at 103k miles the factory accessory lead acid battery, did spark plugs actually at 90k cause I beat on it alot, not bothering buying a secondary battery yet, out of curiosity though I did find some junkyard fusions with sub 50k miles for only 500$ for the battery pack
@@ProDigit80 thing is with my gas mileage is, I drive at higher interstate speeds for a good portion of my miles which the car wasn't built for and doesn't do very well at obviously, when it's cooler out (I live in Florida) and I'm driving city I can pull over 42 mpg on eco no problem, but my average for last 40k miles of driving is 34.7 mpg
The non Ecoboost engines tend to last. The thing with this hybrid is the electric motor assists the gas engine so the gas engine is actually under stressed whereas the turbo engines in other trims tend to be over stressed, especially the 1.5 and 1.6 Ecoboosts.
You fail to remember… these still have a gas powered engine. And probably well maintained… which is where most people screw up already. Let’s see a FULL electric do this without burning through a few batteries though😂
I was going to mention these vehicles are commonly used for fleet/level rep purposes and I have also seen them with well over 500,000 miles. The dashboard will be lit up like a Christmas tree, but it will still be going down the road 😂
Resale it
Most electric car batteries wont last that long due to the battery life. Both have pros and cons.
@@TB-nh4byvery easy to change a hybrid battery
About to hit 150k in my fusion hybrid 2017
I just learned That these have an ecvt which uses electric motors rather than a belt and pulleys supposedly much more simple to fix and more reliably designed!
Yep that’s how Honda and Toyota hybrids are, basically the theory is that it’s a gas generator for an electric powertrain. Kinda neat
Yes the New Honda 2liter Crv hybrid doesn't even have a drive belt or starter because everything is done by electric including the transmission except in direct drive for speeds over 65 mph or something like that.
@@davewilson7602Honda and Toyota still definitely use regular crappy near unserviceable CVTs so they don’t get a pass. Their hybrid drive units on the other hand I’m not sure if they have a typical CVT.
@@tjnucnucsome of them have an ecvt which uses electric power, so no belt. Most Toyota cvts don't have a belt.
@@tjnucnuc I don't think Toyota has regular CVTs, just their eCVT which is just a planetary gearset.
It says “ready to drive”. I think not… but honestly that car has earned a chance to be fixed
Worth more in parts, than fixed.
@@autopartscity-Illinoisstill deserves to be fixed i hate seeing partouts on such nice cars
Fixing an old car is usually more environmentally friendly than buying a new one
@@radiofreemongoliaofficial I strongly agree. I've got an old Dodge with 350k; just had the engine rebuilt. My dad's Tacoma has 300k, and both my mom's Accords had 460k and 200k.
Basic maintenance can take you to the moon and back, especially with a manual transmission! :)
It's actually ready to drive. The EVCT passed its checks. Might be worthwhile to see if it needs fluid. It's rare for the transmission to fail.
BTW, the 470v battery is very valuable and should NOT be run through the crusher (you probably know this as it's a major fire hazard).
One thing about the odometer on this car is you never know how many miles are on the engine. That odometer is combined mileage from gas and electric power. But this car will run on either solely. (Odometer is driven from transmission, not the engine)
The electric motor is only on a small part of the motivation for the car. 95% is going to be on the gas engine.
Unless you have a home or workplace very close to your home and have CONSTANT ev charging. If your trips are 20 miles or less you can drive without gas easy.
Our Fusion hybrid (non 🔌 plug in) runs about 85% of the time on gas. That 15-20% of electric ⚡️ only running makes a major difference in fuel efficiency. Hybrid is the way to go for fuel economy. The US isn’t ready as a whole for full EV.
Specific type of hybrid cars. This Ford, and many Toyota Hybrids use a planetary gear set instead of a traditional CVT or transmission that is significantly more robust than traditional transmissions. While yes, you will need to replace the battery pack every once in a while, the money saved on fuel more than makes up for the cost of battery repair/replacement.
I have a 2014 ford fuison with the 2.5 and its about to hit 400k miles 😂
did you fix/replace transmission?
How reliable has it been for you? What have you had to fix on it? Im looking for a first car for myself and ive noticed 2014-2016 ford fusions are pretty nicely priced for around 85k-105k miles and i want it to last me a while i dont want my first car to just be a piece of junk that craps out after 2 years
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I found a 2013 Fusion on CarMax a few years ago with only 17K miles on it. In 3 years I have added nearly 50K miles. If you avoid the EcoBoost engined cars you should easily see similar mileages to this Hybrid. BTW, these don't use the troublesome transmission Ford put in Fiestas and Focuses. Just keep the fluids changed regularly and it will run nearly forever. Mine currently averages about 30-34 MPG.
@howardkerr8174 what is wrong with the eco boosts exactly? I have taken your word for it and have been looking at non eco boosted ones and thats typically only the S model, but i actually kinda want an se as it gets some nice features ig, but i dont plan on using this car forever just enough for me to get into life ig, maybe at least another 5-7 years of just driving to work and stuff not too much
@@howardkerr8174 to add to what i said about the SE having features, i have noticed on some SE fusions that they have some stuff the titanium would have like the speedometer in the middle and the nice touch display. But others dont have those while still being SE models
Good to know I still got 230k miles to go lmao
I'm at 180k now with no problems what so ever and I've been getting anxiety for no reason thinking it's nearing end of life. I guess I'll hold off on the anxiety for a few hundred thousand more miles.
What year is your fusion hybrid?@@luigiwastaken
@@bl6369 2017 and I’m at 192k now
I love how one good example suddenly means every car powered the same way MUST be just as reliable as the one example on hand...
And he's not pointing out the thing he usually either. Most of the junked cars there aren't because of dead engines and transmissions, its because they're rotted out.
All I can take away from this is this car's body is built to far better standards than they used to be or less it'd still have been headed for the crusher at 170+k.
@Cheepchipsable He never said that
The way I see it... I personally had plenty of vehicles myself with that many miles on it that weren't hybrids. But what I find interesting about it is thats it's a ford. Everybody wants to talk about how great Toyota hybrids are bit there sits a fusion with that many miles on it. And it's not like they made millions of them. Awesome, someone should tell him that an electric car and a hybrid aren't the same thing. If the electric motors battery dies on most hybrida, it still moves
Personally, I believe Hybrid is the best solution, since it's the best of both worlds, Gas and Electric
Yep, I'd agree there. If you literally only trot to and from the shops and you don't really care about luxury then a little ev makes sense. But if you use it for bigger trips and need the flexibility and comfort a larger hybrid makes way more sense.
My 2003 chevy trailblazer just hit 200k miles. My 2015 Lexus GS 350 with 187k miles still drives like a new car.
Bro just jinxed himself
If you look at carfax reports on the 2nd gen ford fusion hybrids 2013 to2020 you will see relatively few repairs and almost no hybrid battery replacements...later models are super reliable.
The energi is slightly different than the non plug in. Hybrid always uses the gas engine. The energi plug in can run on the battery alone for a 50 mile range. So an energi with 450 on it doesn't necessarily mean the engine has 450 on it.
Not 50 mi. I literally own a 2015 and my range is 20, but older battery. It’s meant to be maxed at 25mi. 50mi would be an absolutely lovely gain but no fusions have that range battery only. Yet.
@@lawgetaI’m thinking of getting one. Do they charge while you drive or do you have to plug it in? And what’s your mpg if you don’t plug it in? Thank you.
@@FoxSquad32 Sorry for the long wait. If you find one, understand that they're still not cheap lol. A Prius (be careful of model years!) may get you about 10mpg difference BUT these cars are fantastic nonetheless.
Since it's still a Hybrid even though it's also a plugin: you can occasionally see the car charging while it drives. Of course like all other hybrids it recharges while braking and an added bonus is that if you put it in Low gear (I only put it in low while in city traffic) you can regain even more battery power when coming to a stop PLUS additional braking assistance compared to just using the brakes.
I plug mine in occasionally, and if I don't: not to worry. It still has a hybrid battery function. Ez 8/10 in my book. I still prefer my Escape 2011 Hybrid but I enjoy knowing I can plug this good gal in and save gas. My Escape was pretty good on MPG's too but it lacked a plugin feature which I was adamant about AND it loses about 10mpg compared to the Fusion Plugin.
totally agree! at least with anything new! i have a ford fusion in the carport that attached to my garage that has engine problems! its my roomates old car and he bought it from a dealer with like 165000 miles on it and after like 2000 miles of driving it it devoloped that issue! its currently being used as a strorage shed!
I own a 2011 Ford Fusion SEL with the inline 4. And I baby the car and make sure everything is maintained and on schedule. The car has 167,000 miles on it and has never let me down once. It still drives the exact same way as when I got it. I hope it lasts to that many miles. I honestly love these cars. I love mine also so much I painted the spoiler on mine blue and got NASCAR type wheels for it and repainted the roof blue because it had a tiny bit of surface rust.
My friend’s dad has a 2017 ford fusion hybrid and it’s still going strong with over 243,000 miles
This car is in nice shape for a few reasons.
1st. The car isn't from a rust belt state.
2nd. Where was this car driven? City ? Country ? Where it is driven, put different wear and tear on it.
3rd Was the car privately owned or fleet/ tax, etc, owned ?
4th How was this car maintained?
Curious what year is this car?
its uber taxi
This is the thing. Most of the older junked cars come to this yard because they're rotted out. Most of them (even the 90s stuff and before) run and drive perfectly well and likely would hace reached bigger miles and beyond.
We also don't know how many repairs or replacement parts this car has had. All I can take away from this is that Ford in more recent years are building some properly decent corrosion resistant cars.
My 05 honda odyssey I bought used has 235k miles on it and still shifts fine
Had a 2001 Toyota Camry with 415k miles on it and only did basic maintenance and repairs. Replaced it in 2021 with my new Toyota Camry.
I had a co worker that had 734,000 on a Corolla, just traded for a 2020 RAV4 with 19,000 miles, I'm curious to see how far this goes.
If this was still available I would have bought it. Straight up.
My 2017 needed a transmission at 63k. Common issue in some years/models for them to go out. It is a known problem. Good thing it was under warranty.
It's not a known problem for 2017 at all. You had some pretty bad luck. If I remember right it was a known problem for like 2013-2015
2015 still on original (I think) with 200,000+ on the dash and gives me absolutely no problems. Just changed the fluid today too. We’re good over here.
My 07 Fusion was just an old gas getter. It had 390k on it with zero dash lights when I sold it 3 years ago to the neighbors kid. He still has it. Yeah he's beat it up quite a bit but it's still going strong.
You can get it with the electric boogie socket😂😂❤❤❤ nice touch
We have a 2015 @200k miles and 2019 @42k miles. Both are running strong.
My dad drove one for work. It got over 50mpg and never broke down a single time. Those Ford hybrids are decent!
My c-max energi has 256k miles and it charged just fine still get like 14 miles range. Average mpg overall I get 44. Not bad
Including the mileage driven on all electric or just when the car drives on gas? That is not really much better than a Sienna Hybrid, which is much bigger and does around 37 MPG and doesn't require charging. Probably you are driving beyond the range too much, negating the economy on electric.
My teacher, had a Prius with 400,000 miles on it and the rest of the car was still good but we’re up here in Vermont so it rotted out before it had any mechanical problems
My gasoline 2018 2.0L AWD is at 269k miles and chugging along just fine.
My Prius that I have almost has 200K miles on it, it’s been a good daily for me, and then I have my OBS Silverado to enjoy on the weekends
Oh, so that's the ONE . . . GOD BLESS ALL 4 I AM THE SHED ! ! ! ! !
Thats a true miracle, specialy for a ford
2013 hybrid SE here. 188k. No issues. So dang. 454k?😮
These things don’t die!! I was a technician at Ford and I’ve seen so many with well over 200,000 miles that just have no issues. I own one and I’ve had 50,000 miles of no problems. The only downside is they have just about 20 miles of electric range.
Hybrids are typically more reliable and longer lasting than their gas counterparts. The only exception appears to be Honda who has a history with their hybrids being less reliable than their gas versions.
I can only hope mine lasts that long. I own a 2019 FUSION Energi Titanium currently going on 55k nothing but oil changes, tires and brakes. I drive as a Med Cab driver and average 150 miles a day x 6 a week. Love this tho!! Ford or Toyota I own both they are they same stuff just licensed.
Im driving uber in a 2018 hybrid and doing around the same daily miles as you. Im at about 150k still going strong without a single issue. Also still getting 40+mpg which is surprising because thats supposed to come down with use as the battery ages.
You’re definitely gonna get that with a Toyota Product 😂😂
I'd rather have a Toyota product.
Or almost any product provided it's cared for.
Straight up see Toyota t100’s crashed in the junkyard at 300k+
That is wild!
I’ve seen Toyotas and Lexuses with miles like that too. In person I saw a million mile Tacoma and a SC430 with nearly 700k miles.
There must have changed the battery?🤔
I want my 2014 Ford Cmax Energi to reach that many miles too!
Let's see the service record
My 1986 Toyota truck was running fine with 374,000 miles and the only reason I changed engines because it is leaking oil everywhere. Now it’s got 387,000 and I’m still driving it every day.
If you change the engine, then that’s not what it has, how many miles did the engine have on it that you put in it?
@@RayLeejr i got a remanufactured new engine from summit racing. it come with a 3 years unlimited mile warranty. so far i have drove it 12,000 miles. runs grate!
@@timetraverler1709 cool, sounds like a great truck, I wish I’d never gotten rid of one that I had!
huh…so the odometer runs when the nose is up and the rear wheels are being towed. Well I learned something, today!😬
What a beast
Well, my very first car was a 1978 Dodge diplomat of course gasoline engine only and I had put on it a little over 2 1/2 million miles on it.
I’m getting ready to get a plug in hybrid. We have free charging at work. 13 miles one way. I can almost drive round trip for free. Plus there is still a 4k dollar tax credit on the plug in hybrids right now
My 2000 Silverado has 660,000 on the original engine and transmission, and ever works on it !!!!
Why junk it? If it's still good?
You mean figure out what to do with that battery. I wonder what his cpm was.
did it have the original hybrid battery through out the life of the car?
I read an article a while back where they did some sort of check on taxi vehicles in New York and they found that most of them were ford hybrids with over 400,000 miles on them and when asked what maintenance they had done to keep them going for so long they basically said "uhhh ... what maintenance?" lol More or less these guys were running the cars nonstop barely ever turning them off much less going in for maintenance.
Whew lord!!! 400K+!!!
What’s that song playing in the background?
That's a miracle. The engines are bullet proof. But hf35 transmissions are junk.
What kind of maintenance do you got to do to make it last this long. Crossing my fingers for mine
My fusion hybrid is at 270k miles… only suspension parts and oil changes… and 1 electric steering rack.
@@ISP718qmy 2018 just crossed 100k and at like 92k my electronic steering rack went out, what mileage did yours go out? I bought a used one with 30k miles on it for 200$ which was nice cause new motorcraft is 6x that
@@elijahevo6859 I’m at 276,000 miles now 2014 hybrid non energy owned the car since 26,000 miles. My electronic rack went out at 217,000 miles, and my brake vacuum pump went out at 228,000 miles.. the 2 pricey items so far. I bought new oem rack for $1100 and paid $400 install and $150 program like $1600ish.. not bad dealer wanted $3k
Trans fluid? @@ISP718q
@@alanaleshire7561 I did the trans fluid at 150k and it was clean as hell. I’m at 284k now. Trans feels great. I’m going to wait until 350k to flush it again. The fluid doesn’t burn up in these. The next thing I’m due for all engine mounts very soon.
A gasoline one wouldn't last that long?
But doesn't the hybrid have a gasoline engine, which actually does most of the work?
No injectors, no timing belts. Atkinson engine in hybrids is much more robust
Wow. I thought I was elite with 290k miles.
my 1981 dodge 1500 had 560K kilometers before we selled it, it had 12 owners
I've got that many miles on my truck and still drive it daily
Most of these fords can go that long. My Dads had 345k on it. It kinda drives good still.
Fusions have no business getting the mileage they do as American sedans. The newer ones and the older Mazda-era ones just keep going. It’s impressive.
is there a carfax on it?
That's a Ford Mondeo here in the UK
My wife's 2016 Ford fusion hybrid with 99,000 mi runs beautifully. I get 45 mi a gallon sometimes last sometimes more That's how you drive
My 02 7.3 diesel has nearly 500k on her and is still going strong
Makes you wonder what a new trans would cost?
8k is about the going range for an e-cvt replacement on a fusion hybrid
@@elijahevo6859you can get them for way cheaper. Labor will be expensive. I've seen them for $2200
I got a 2012 S with 250k and there's been only 2 part replacements. Wiring harness which is done and now the alternator which I caused to fail.
Actually easily doable with a non-hybrid Fusion. They're kinda known for insane mileage when they aren't using an Ecoboost engine
They say the E-cvt is basically bullet proof and it doesn’t really matter who makes it.
Because all Toyota/Lexus cars with it last forever, and all Ford cars with it last forever….
Clean top
My 2013 Energi is on it's 3rd transmission and the bearing are failing again.
wheel bearings?
2015 - absolutely zero problem with transmission, but it's an energi
People. Please understand this is a Fusion "Energi" - plug in plus gas engine.
My 08 prius has almost 300k and it on the original hybrid pack.
I’ve got a 2013 1.6 with 162k. Wouldn’t mind getting another 292k out of it but I’m not getting my hopes up.
454k lol that's cute . My 99 Toyota Camry 753k original engine and transmission no rebuild.
Well yeah that thing will probably last you until 2099 😂
A lot of times, how long a car lasts depends on how its owner treats and maintains it
Everyone call in the 500000+ Toyota Camrys
Reminds me of LED lightbulbs. LED bulbs were supposed to last forever until the industry figured out how to make them last the same length as the old bulbs. I'm almost positive the same thing will happen to EVs and hybrids. Making things last forever is bad for business.
If you are constantly burning out LED light bulbs prematurely, have an electrician check your house's wiring. That can be the sign of serious wiring problems, possibly dangerous ones.
As for having cars last a very long time, Toyota is still printing money last time I checked.
If a gas engine in a plug in hybrid fails, can it run and recharge on electric power only?
No
Plenty of guys with 700k + on their dodge and ford trucks, and the Chevy 6.0 is an awesome motor, guys have reported up to 600k on all from factory parts
So what? They guzzle gas. Only truck with ok mileage was the Ranger and they scuttled that only to bring it back huge.
@@curiousnomadic So what?? So because most trucks are used as daily work vehicles that haul loads or pull trailers that needs much more power and RANGE than the current EV market offers. You obviously have no clue how much fossil fuels are required to build an EV vehicle or the EPA impact of the battery disposal.
@@rod1499 "So what?"? So it's wasting them money and keeping them broke with the amount of gas they spend on them.. Whose talking about EVs? With the distance they are going and maybe the terrain maybe hybrid Subarus but these trucks are keeping them down just like alcohol and white man's food giving them diabetes. No way. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. I've known factory workers all of whom owned trucks and 95% of them haul nothing with them. Now if I had one I'd actually use it to haul manure, dirt, wood, furniture, and other things. But I'd want a smaller one with a lower tailgate like the older Rangers and a stick shift that can get 30mpg. The Ford Maverick makes sense but who can get ahold of one right now?
American trucks are huge profit centers and have been the cornerstone for American automotive industry. American cars as a whole have not been as reliable over years and mileage as American trucks have been. Exceptions have been pretty much Ford products. Fusion hybrid line, Panther platform when those were made were rock solid reliable. Chrysler cars have been 💩 for decades. GM trucks need transmissions every 100k miles unless the lifters fail and need overhauls. 3.6 v6 need timing chain issues among other bs problems.
Take a moment to go back and listen carefully, he says you won’t get 400 thousand out of any gas, then a long pause, and then he says fusion, in other words, he acknowledges other cars with superior reliability such is the case with Toyota.
im at 238k and still going strong i got a 2014 fusion se
Hybrid is what they all should be making
Show me some of the service records and we'll see if it's cheaper to own than a gasoline vehicle
It is lol, the transmissions on these are near bombproof
10 year old enegi with only 5 oil changes (use mostly electric), new 12 volt battery, tires(2x). Nothing else.
The fusion with base 4 cylinder 2.5 is a mazda engine! The transmission is Aisin (toyota)!
Energi is a 2.0
Probably with the 4th engine or most of it was on electric motor.
I guess you've never heard of the million mile lexus
This is funny but man you’re gonna get your rear end beat to a pulp if you tick off the wrong person.
I have a 1990 suburban with 535000 miles on it.
Thats insane definitely a record
The ford fusion hybrid is basically a Toyota is fords clothing. Most of the hybridiness was borrowed from Toyota and the cvt transmissions will last forever if you change the fluid regularly in these. You may ask if it was so good why did ford stop making them, and that’s because they could make way more off of an SUV or truck.
My best friend used to drive one of these before she got another car, almost had 300k on it
I'll take it. Got 260k out of a Tempo, so Ford is fine with me.
Im not even getting that out of a hybrid se. Just 100k miles and the battery needs replacement.
Im nearing 101k miles on my 2018 hybrid, only things is two purge valve replacement s and an electronic steering rack failure. I noticed my battery is a bit week so my gas mileage doesnt touch 40 mpg anymore
@Elijah Evo if you're under 42mpg, your high voltage battery is bad. Ford won't replace them. You can still drive it for another 50 to 75k miles though, but like you said, electric torque, electric range, and mpg will be greatly reduced. The 80% law of EVs doesn't apply to hybrids. If you ask me, I'd rather had ford make the battery pack host 50-75% more cells, preferably LiFePo4 (cheaper lithium iron cells at 3.2V) instead of the expensive 3.7V lithium cells that use cobalt.
If you look at the battery pack, its so small. 1/3rd of it is the controller. They could have easily extended the pack by another 50 cells and it would still have fitted in the trunk!
They could double the battery pack, and tilt the controller part at 90 degrees, and it still would have fit.
Anyway, I replaced my lead acid with a 12.8V 50Ah Lithium battery. All it needs is just 2 diodes on the positive side (dropping the 14.4V charge voltage down to 13.9V, and dropping the 13.3V battery voltage to 12.8V.
Mpg went up. You can also charge up the 12v battery with a trickle charger to 13.35V, and the car won't waste high voltage battery energy, trying to recharge the 12v. The 12v lead acid is a big drain on the high voltage battery pack.
@Elijah Evo other than the 12v, I bought another second hand high voltage battery, but am still running on the original at reduced performance and mpg. I really had zero maintenance. Not even the spark plugs.
Spark plugs are rated for 100k miles, however, the engine is on only 60% of the time, and the engine rpm usually doesn't exceed 2k rpm at acceleration, or 1500rpm at cruising. Which leads me to believe the spark plugs are good for at least 150k miles.
@@ProDigit80 I replaced for the first time ever at 103k miles the factory accessory lead acid battery, did spark plugs actually at 90k cause I beat on it alot, not bothering buying a secondary battery yet, out of curiosity though I did find some junkyard fusions with sub 50k miles for only 500$ for the battery pack
@@ProDigit80 thing is with my gas mileage is, I drive at higher interstate speeds for a good portion of my miles which the car wasn't built for and doesn't do very well at obviously, when it's cooler out (I live in Florida) and I'm driving city I can pull over 42 mpg on eco no problem, but my average for last 40k miles of driving is 34.7 mpg
Problem with hybrid cars is that they are slow and its hard to replace the individual hybrid battery cells
It’s got the 2.5, that’s why.
What is it worth 1k
I think a lot of people who, like to hate on electric and hybrid cars have probably never actually owned one.
The non Ecoboost engines tend to last. The thing with this hybrid is the electric motor assists the gas engine so the gas engine is actually under stressed whereas the turbo engines in other trims tend to be over stressed, especially the 1.5 and 1.6 Ecoboosts.
I almost trade my ford fusion hybrid 2019, I'm keeping it now.
Mileage is fake lol u can adjust it with a micronusb cable!
Can I buy it
You fail to remember… these still have a gas powered engine. And probably well maintained… which is where most people screw up already.
Let’s see a FULL electric do this without burning through a few batteries though😂
I even seen a ford truck will almost 600k on it. Older model. Still runs great
What do you mean you seen? What does that even mean?
Hybrids are fine, EVs are not