UPDATE: Frustratingly apparently he did use a JCM800, an amp I own (and sounded nothing like it). Lol. So it was tweaked to bejeezus with studio EQ/Compressors etc to get that way. I at least got the pickup closer, as it wasn't an EMG as reported online. It was passive. Slowly We Learn. Tone knob on 0 Med output bridge humbucker JCM800 (mid 80's) Pro Co Rat G12t-75 Celestion speaker close mic'd. Thanks to Nathcore!
One more funny story is that Obituary were playing the same stage at a festival as Celtic Frost in 2006 and Trevor went up and looked at Tom Warrior's rig and saw it was the exact same rig except with an old Ibanez TS808. His guitar had the tone down to 0, too. Same JCM800s. That's where Obituary stole the tone from, of course, back in the day (duh). They nerded out on it for awhile that they ran the same settings. Pretty funny.
Did you try mixing the Rat with amp distortion? It's very noisy mixing them so Trevor also linked a Rocktron Hush II pedal. At least on "World Demise".
Kevin Kelly yep. I used the rat as a boost to an already crunchy sound. The tone control being off really helps plus my cab is in a booth with prevents typical feedback of the original m sound going back through the pickups so it wasn't that bad.
Years ago I met the during the End Complete tour. I asked Trevor about his settings on the Marshall and on the rat. He wrote them out for me. Somewhere i still have the paper he wrote them on. God's honest truth. I emailed John about still having the settings years later. Got a nice response. Folks you will never meet a nicer bunch of guys in a band.
I've met the guys on multiple occasions (5-6/9) times I've seen them, couldn't have agreed over how so nice they are even more Trevor especially though ♡
Dude that is absolutely true I met them when James Murphy was with them..I bought James Murphy like $20 worth of beer in this is back in the day when the beer was like 3 bucks. He introduced me to John and Donald Tardy. We hung out at the bar talked and drank for a couple hours. And this was "world demise"tour...
@@hekateon.ioannis.lasorsa I met Ttrevor too he's a good dude. He's very cool to the true fans of the band. When I met him he was sitting on the edge of the stage handing out guitar picks. I ended up drinking with the whole band at the bar later.
@@ziggylayneable Not World Demise tour, maybe Cause of Death tour, the only tour that James Murphy was on. At the time they recorded and toured for World Demise, Allen West was back in the band, even before that, in 1991.
Trevor said he always preferred 50 watt Marshalls.. I always thought Obituary were like a heavier Celtic Frost. To me the rhythm tone sounds like the tone is rolled off.
Many years ago, I read an interview of Scott Burns [I think it's still somewhere on the internet], who was the great sound engineer of the death metal bands of the late 80s, early 90s. He explained that to get the sound so special that his productions had, including the first Obituary albums (and many more, Death, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Napalm Death, Suffocation, etc.), he used a Marshall Valvestate, and nothing more. It confirms what you say. Obituary was one of the most loyal bands to Scott Burns. They discovered the recording with him. It is therefore not surprising that the Marshall Valvestate remains a reference for them. The Marshall Valvestate already gives a sound close to the "Scott Burns" sound, without the ProCo Rat. But now, Trevor Peres is known for playing live with a Boss Tuner, a ProCo Rat, and a Boss Noise gate, plugged into a Marshall JCM800. (A cheap trick to get a sound approaching Obituary : use an MXR Blue Box, with the two knobs turned all the way up, it works with any guitar and amp!)
It’s in the works. I tried and failed and here is a link. I’ve since bought his pedal and will try again. This is no bass and the wrong guitar: ruclips.net/video/_44MxOiITEI/видео.html
EverettDudgeon138 he used a jcm 800 with a pedal on the first 3 albums right? Because after spiritual healing i think he started using the valvestate and running straight into it w no pedals
Great vid man, hilarious story too haha. Sounds like you nailed that tone. Its crazy how the Obituary tone sounds so mid-scooped but still pops out in the mix
+TheShredMethod Thanks man! Glad you liked the vid. Yeah the secret is the nasty tone is made more palatable by rolling off the tone on the guitar. So that makes it pleasing. Great trick.
Nice one mate, sounded great, slowly we rot was a groundbreaker back in the day, that voice!! Loved to hear your reminisces, Rock city and Bradford queens hall were my haunts, mental gigs!!
Great stuff man.I just came across your channel with that Iron Maiden Video you did.I do the guitar in an Iron Maiden Tribute Band,so for me there was great information within that video.Like you I started playing guitar back in the 'glory days´ of Thrash and Death Metal, and listening to your story here ist like listening to many of mine.Haha.Metal takes it's price.....but it's worth!Every minute....Go on making these great content.Got my support!Cheers!
Yeah you are right bro.So I'll love what's coming then.It's very cool how deep you dig into that technical 'Nerd' thing here and then.I am working on electric guitars every day.Not only for living, simply passion.It's so addictive man.Hehe.Once you're in, you are trapped forever.And the best thing is,after 30 Years of playing Metal, there are still so many things to explore within the best music ever created.A little pathos here, but hey, it's simply Metal.Cheers.ED.
blseddie Yep. Being a metalhead is like a club. If I see a guy in a bar with a metal shirt on, you just know you will get along with them. Thanks for watching dude! Lots to come!
Valvestates are underrated for tone. I was able to pull a rhythm tone that was chunky but still crisp. Obituary is classic death metal with a touch of black metal and a heaping dose of groove. PS, Obituary in their heyday... pretty much any time they hit the stage.
TheRosswise once the power transistors fail, the replacements are unobtaneum. A current replacement almost changes the whole sound of the amp. Sadly same thing happens with the Marshall 3210s and their MOSFet power transistors.
Nice work. Obituary's one of my favorite bands and I'm finally going to see them next month in Pomona. Very excited. I just hope my experience is much more uneventful than yours. Gotta admit, though, your story is true metal. Thanks for the vid.
Daisy Doodle cheers! I really like the solo that I improvised on this. some of it was old licks I’ve played a few times but the new stuff was on the spot and I could not repeat it if I tried. Haha.
@@WildChildMcCloud no, that was effigy and they used a bbe rack and no boosts. Pierced from Within was a valvestate head boosted with a Zoom driver pedal
Awesome video mate, both for the analysis of their tone and your story. The other guitarist from the death metal band I was in at the time the first Obituary album came out could get a very similar sound using an old Marshall JMP-style head, a Boss DS-2 and a Washburn guitar (a super strat with that fire crackle finish that was popular at the time) by turning the presence down really low on his amp. I had a JCM800 and I couldn't get the same sound.
... you are right about his tone, and 8100 is really great amp for deathmetal. 8100 was also used in studio by Chuck Schuldiner, but on many live videos I can clearly see that Trevor's strat doesn't have any active pickups and there is often JCM 800 2204 behind his back. Looks to me like his sound is just about string gauge, hi-out humbucker and good overdrive pedal in front of marshall head (not talking about plexi or bluesbreaker of course :)) To my opinion his studio sound is made by valvestate marshall, doesn't have that "warmth" and dynamic of tubes (no need in deathmetal) and when he goes live then he uses JCM800 for whatever reason, as long as that typical Marshall compression is there all sounds good ...
+hovadopekelne yep! It def sounds SS to me. Apparently it was a JCM800 but I have a hard time believing it. I have one, and the SS Marshall sounded way closer than the JCM800. I've seen them live using the JCM800 and it sounds off compared to the album. Still awesome but not as nasty. Thanks for watching!
and to Circle of Tone The valve state 8100 was used LIVE on stage by Chuck Schuldiner and Shannon. For the most accurate Obituary guitar tone used a the Jcm 800 with a rat and humbucker style guitar like Fender etc.. Only other ss amp comes close to the jcm 800 is a old amp I used to own called Valve State 8200 it's 100watt x100watt basically a 200 watter. The guitarist from Obituary who uses a Fender uses stock fender tex-mex humbucker not just Emg's.
For years the secret to Trevor's sound has been an early Pro-Co Rat slamming the front end of 2204 or Mk2 JCM800. Bass and Mids all the way up and treble cut. Also, keep in mind, the Valvestate amps were not being made when Slowly We Rot, Cause of Death, and The End Complete were recorded. Not sure if boosting a Lead 100 MOSFET would yield a good result or not.
Great story about the obituary gig! I laughed at the metal plasti joke..Great silver lining to a very traumatic pit experience and Thank God for putting a bouncer in your path with some sense and caring!
Christopher Godeezy Yep a lot of these old school bouncers are used to this from boxing/sparing/cornerman etc. And Bristol is a rugby town so my odds were good.
The tone control is how I was able to get close in the old days. gave it a thicker almost nasally sound. I ran through an old Carvin X-100b head from 1988 no pedals and Carvin 4-12 cab He-12 speakers.
I have been playing through an Epiphone blackback custome pro all stock. I think the tone pot is messed up but it gets the sound really good. I was messing around with my little BOSS katana Mini and that guitar and it is so close I was really surprised. I did it after watching this video and it got me fired up to play with that tone again
The other thing I learned from the Obituary sound was the 5th on the bottom power chord. To me it sounds like they use it quite often in there music. If they don't use it they made it so I did it without knowing it was a real chord a long time ago
I saw them live a month ago and i can 100% confirm he IS USING MARSHALL JCM800's, he also was using a strat, but it was a strat with a basic seymour duncan pickup, I tried out a hss stratocaster through a rat and an 800 at my local store and got the EXACT tone immediately
Very nice, sounds close enough to me. Even when you don't get it bang on, you still get really cool tones. Obituary were the first death metal band I heard. I got cause of death from cash converters because it had a cool cover and logo. I played it on the big stereo downstairs and absolutely shit myself when he started singing. I could not fathom that a human could make those noises. My dad came in half way through and he was utterly disgusted. He asked me if this is what I was into and when i said yes he gave me such a disappointed look. 😂 For years after that he tried to get me out of metal by making me listen to stuff he liked but it was too late.
One of the most insane heaviest albums of the time in metal. Its a masterpiece. the sound is so thick, get about 16 guitar tracks and you'll get to reel it in. lol. a ton of badass solos also. Obituary 'cause of death' album.
Ok so it may not have been specifically the valvestate on Cause of Death. Because apparently it was released in 91. So the SPECIFIC amp search continues. But I think it's a solid state Marshall because none of my tube heads had that specific vibe. It could be the Marshall 5150 SS combo which came with g12t-75 speaker stock.
Cause Of Death, Slowly We Rot, World Demise are all the original ProCo Rat into a mid 80s JCM800 (100watt) through a regular Marshall 4x12 and a passive mid-output humbucker in the bridge position with the tone all the way off. There's no solid state in the tone. But the magic X factor in there is the amount of studio compressors and outboard mixing and then mastering that goes into it. All of this information is from walking through the rig with Trevor Peres himself.
nathcore thanks man. I have a JCM800 and it sounded too modern/clear even with my guitar tone turned down. I really need to get a good channel strip. Great info. Thanks. I heard it was 20% of the way on the tone. I mentioned that in the vid but it was near the end. For the vid I was at 20% not all the way off.
It takes some tinkering, but it comes out when you figure it out. The same thing people scratch their heads with HM2 pedals trying to get that Entombed/Dismember sound. You have to get the amp head to the right sweet spot and then then pedal to saturate it on top of that and then you also have to be able to play in that way to make it really juice out.
nathcore if I remember right, I used some extreme settings on my hm2 pedal back in the day. But one setting was more subtle. Check it out, needs lower tuning and more gain but the essence is there: ruclips.net/video/7G6hoHRAzIs/видео.html
I've met James Murphy a couple times. He was on cause of death, Ummm.yeah I was at this New Jersey metal festival inside this giant club.I bought him a bunch of beers and we chilled out at the bar and talked for about 45 minutes. He introduced me to Donald and John Tardy too. This was extremely early 90s.it was a smaller size club but only have about maybe a thousand people..
Some time has gone by...I actually like that solo I improvised. Solid state done right can have interesting dynamics. If you liked the Obituary vid, come join my Facebook group and we can talk about production, tone and getting the most out of budget gear: facebook.com/groups/1710152262614319/
I believe your Obituary concert experience is also in a video somewhere, on a live dvd where the added clips from old shows etc. That does sound familar.
sounds like you nailed it and alan wests solo tone. great story as well. I saw them back in the day as well. we got back stage with them my mate asked the security guards if he could get his records signed. they said hold on wait here they asked the band and they said sure and we got back stage with them. they were realy nice guys.
Hey c.o.t.!!! Which channel of the marshal did you use to get this tone? The OD one or the od2? Also did you use the rat has a clean boost or where the settings in your picture what you used
I can’t remember. Haha. Perhaps you can zoom in on the pic. I’ll be soaring off the Marshall for one of the Hex Mass bands. Check out the new vids I did. If you like Obituary you will love Hex Mass.
After watching this video 5 years ago, I am still going after the Trevor obituary sound. I still love this video. I made an attempt to re-create the tone using pedals
thanx dude..i enjoyed that so much..obituary.!!!! Fuck yes...i. believe in the power of the proco..i have had two in my chain for ten yrs..tampa had a sick scene...such thick bottom ended tone
Natred Von Diskust I lived in Tampa. Unfortunately after the glory days of Death metal. I always used to look at the DM guys photos with the swamp backgrounds and though how interesting/worlds away from Wales that place looks. Never thought I'd end up living there.
I like it but I think it’s lacking in weirdness. What I love about Extol and Mantric is they went off the rails now and then I to interesting territory. Flesh Killer is a little bit samey. And I wanted more of those clean vocals because IMO the guitarist is a criminally underrated/underused singer.
CIRCLE OF TONE. I see your point, its a bit more straight forward but yes, the vocals is sick. Had the pleasure of seeing them live for their very first gig, and also talked to Ole, the guitarist/composer. I asked about the guitar sound on the album, as i like the raw tone. It was apparently a mix of one of his axe fx presets and a 5153.
Great info! I think back in the day they used Marshall power amps and guitar preamps. Like an Engl type. But that’s just from memory. I haven’t researched it yet. I know I won’t have the specific gear but I’ll just have to wing it.
+Circle of Tone That sounded really close. Now, I am closer to getting a tone I've been trying to get since 1990. How is your amp set up (EQ, tone, levels of gain, etc...)? The closest I've gotten is using a Marshall JCM 2000 TSL with 1960 A/B cabs loaded with Celestion G75 12 inch speakers, a Boss GE 7 EQ pedal (heavy on the highs and bass, with a bit of mids), amp with deep boost on, tone set dark, gain at 100%, treble about 7, mids about 4, bass about 9. The guitars that got me closest were a 1970 Gibson Les Paul standard (EMG 81 bridge, stock neck pickups), an old, neck thru B.C Rich Warlock (like you see in old pictures of Slayer, with Les Paul type head stock with the fancy R and the zillion knobs and toggles, stuff like active pre amp, built in parametric EQ, coil toggles, etc...) with Dimarrzio Super Distortion pickups, and my Jackson JDR 94 with EMG 81 in the neck, EMG 85 in the bridge (It's the only guitar I put the pickups like that, plus some gold lettered EMG single coil in the middle). Also, even tho people rag on the Line 6, my Line 6 Spider 2 practice amp with a pro model Jackson Kelly loaded with Seymour Duncan Invaders gets it really good also. You have to know how to set up a Line 6. I'm gonna scour the pawn shops and look for that Valvestate, because your tone was really close. I was very pleasantly surprised when I heard the awesomeness. It's pretty much just like the album when I listen to your recreation of what is among my favorite tones of all time. Can you do the S.O.D (1st album tone) and Ministry's Psalm 69? My rigs get me really close, but maybe you can get me closer
Hey C.O.T.. You might be able to find out more info on Obituary's recordings from Scott Burns. Back in the day he was "The Man" at Morrisound in Tampa. I think he is into software these days you can find him on Facebook.
Back in the day our band Bludgeon played a few shows with Obituary and Gardy loo. Ben from Gardy loo was in Nasty Savage. We did some recording at Morisound with Scott Burns. This was in the early 90's..
14:08.....I know that feeling and you just explained it. I was in a head on car accident and the airbag went off. Convinced my nose was broken and id knocked my teeth out
sounds awesome! kept waiting for the vocals to kick in! I saw Obituary back in like 92-93 in this little shithole building in the middle of a corn field, literally called the outhouse! lawrence kansas
Good times. LOL I think I like the nose story better than the tone, even though Obituary is pretty much my fav band. Hehehe. I used to get a decent ballpark Obituary tone out of an Aria AB30 bass amp, with an Ultra Metal pedal and a BC Rich Warlock guitar. Are you gonna do something with Crowbar any time soon?!
... what's your string gauge ... Can't find any 8100 around here and I'm not sure whether VS100 could do the same job for me, so I'm thinking about selling my old stuff and buy a JCM800 with Rat distortion, Warmoth one piece maple neck for my 87 Standard Strat body, some hi output bare knuckle humbucker with alnico V magnet, soft plectrum and few hours of alchemy should probably do it ...
+hovadopekelne Not to market to you...but I am bringing out my own amp pulling together all of the stuff I’ve learned. Head, cab and a combo. So if you do purge and are in the market, come visit my website and check out the demos in the future. It’s going to be right up your alley. Like a boosted JCM800 only more clarity and thump in the chest if you need it.
Great stuff as always my friend, i know this might seem a little mainstream or not who knows but i would love to hear a dethklok, thanks so much for great material🤘🤘👏
owen..the rat 2 is and has been a staple in my chain forever..i prefer stacking a ts9 type circuit w..have you played modded rats..ie,keeley .?? turbo rat?? i have never got my hands on one to play prior to purchase could u tell me the major shifts in style..is it just different clipping affecting the distortion..or is there a real nice change in bottom end or a mid cut./ hump
i found you by accident an liked what you shared an always glad you did . just im getting ready to buy a quitar from g an l the jerry cantrel delux is it worth buying.
jimicrack29 thibodeaux I remember Fluff saying he was really disappointed with the Cantrell sig guitar. Perhaps it was a different model though? I don't have any experience with that model. What style do you want to play?
I find tone knob at full very beneficial when going obituary. Can you make a double eq in series with w shaped position and use them on iic+ James tone? He always had that covered eq 1u rack unit hidden in his rack. Probably used with crunch berry iic+
This was an interesting one. It wasn’t tuned to a proper tuning. It was in between which suggests the tape was sped up or slowed down. A lot of black metal is standard E tuned. Modern Death metal tends to be drop Cish.
In 1999. my band had a pretty big gig in front of 2500-3000 people and we were the first band. We (the bands) were gathering around in the backstage, waiting to see what we will do with the tone on stage and all that stuff, suddenly I had a epileptic seizure... fuck! I was getting conscious while in the ER and I got a dose of infusion and I was kinda OK. I got a cab (45-50 minutes passed since the story started) I got back, my band was packing to go home and I was like "Where the fuck are you going guys?!". "You can't play like this", blahblah... And long story short - We kicked asses that night! \m/
Arch Druid cool. I think it's the tone rolled off on the guitar. I mention that secret but at the end. But I don't think James recorded much ryth. More of a solo guy. But that's pure speculation on my part. I remember thinking how crazy it was that James was in so many bands. It kinda sucked as they all happened to be my fav bands, and his solos were slightly samey IMO. I know most go nuts for him but I thought he was slightly predictable when writing solos. Obviously talented but not my cup of tea. His solos were too pretty for death metal. I'm being hyper critical because his peers were Skolnik, Calvert etc. I think his best work was Death.
Nice. Do the Nasum Human 2.0 tones. Some truly disgusting splattery grind goodness. I can basically create that with my software setup, but curious what you can do and/or anyone knows what was used.
I remember watching an interview of Trevor Peres talking about getting that tone in the early 90s saying that the Rat pedal was the key to their sound. I guess its kind of like the Boss distortion is the key to the 90s Swedish Death metal tone. Buy the way how about doing Entombed tone? Maybe Stranger Aeons? Or seeing that you have the 8100 maybe give it a try at the Death tone.
cortarelva Good call. Ill def do death. Brilliant band. I have EMG81 at my disposal too but not in a Floyd guitar. I did a quickie on entombed style a while back but sold the hm2 pedal. But due to requests I recently bought the HM-2 pedal again and I'll be doing a special on Euro death in Dec called Decmember: here is my old clip albeit not down tuned/dirty enough ruclips.net/video/7G6hoHRAzIs/видео.html
I have seen a lot of your videos, and you talk about your Thrash band on the Death/Thrash metal bands videos, did you ever recorded anything with your band? would be amazing to hear!!
Great story and video! I was hijacked to a metal show last night in Denver, CO. Didn't know I was going until an hour before, ended up being a great night! Goth rock band from the 90's called Seraphim Shock. They were pretty amazing. It was like Orgy meets Misfits with some heavy black metal visuals and lyrical content. Keep making videos Boyo!
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UPDATE: Frustratingly apparently he did use a JCM800, an amp I own (and sounded nothing like it). Lol.
So it was tweaked to bejeezus with studio EQ/Compressors etc to get that way.
I at least got the pickup closer, as it wasn't an EMG as reported online. It was passive. Slowly We Learn.
Tone knob on 0
Med output bridge humbucker
JCM800 (mid 80's)
Pro Co Rat
G12t-75 Celestion speaker close mic'd.
Thanks to Nathcore!
One more funny story is that Obituary were playing the same stage at a festival as Celtic Frost in 2006 and Trevor went up and looked at Tom Warrior's rig and saw it was the exact same rig except with an old Ibanez TS808. His guitar had the tone down to 0, too. Same JCM800s. That's where Obituary stole the tone from, of course, back in the day (duh). They nerded out on it for awhile that they ran the same settings. Pretty funny.
nathcore that's awesome. Haha.
I'm def going to do a proper celtic frost vid. great story.
Did you try mixing the Rat with amp distortion? It's very noisy mixing them so Trevor also linked a Rocktron Hush II pedal. At least on "World Demise".
Kevin Kelly yep. I used the rat as a boost to an already crunchy sound. The tone control being off really helps plus my cab is in a booth with prevents typical feedback of the original m sound going back through the pickups so it wasn't that bad.
Years ago I met the during the End Complete tour. I asked Trevor about his settings on the Marshall and on the rat. He wrote them out for me. Somewhere i still have the paper he wrote them on. God's honest truth. I emailed John about still having the settings years later. Got a nice response. Folks you will never meet a nicer bunch of guys in a band.
I've met the guys on multiple occasions (5-6/9) times I've seen them, couldn't have agreed over how so nice they are even more
Trevor especially though ♡
Dude that is absolutely true I met them when James Murphy was with them..I bought James Murphy like $20 worth of beer in this is back in the day when the beer was like 3 bucks. He introduced me to John and Donald Tardy. We hung out at the bar talked and drank for a couple hours. And this was "world demise"tour...
@@hekateon.ioannis.lasorsa I met Ttrevor too he's a good dude. He's very cool to the true fans of the band. When I met him he was sitting on the edge of the stage handing out guitar picks. I ended up drinking with the whole band at the bar later.
@@ziggylayneable Not World Demise tour, maybe Cause of Death tour, the only tour that James Murphy was on. At the time they recorded and toured for World Demise, Allen West was back in the band, even before that, in 1991.
I can vouch
Met them about 5 months ago and they were all great especially Trevor!!!!!!!
Who thought such a scary looking guy could be so nice!
Trevor said he always preferred 50 watt Marshalls.. I always thought Obituary were like a heavier Celtic Frost. To me the rhythm tone sounds like the tone is rolled off.
his tone knob is dialed all the way back
Dude I'm a bass player and always been a fan of OBITUARY since 1994. You really have a nice tone.
솔랑솔랑이 Thanks man. Miss those days!
You absolutely nailed this one! Great work on the solo, that was sublime. I'd forgotten how good Obituary's guitar playing was.
christianleepeacock Yeah they were seminal. Really glad you like the vid! Welcome to the circle.
Many years ago, I read an interview of Scott Burns [I think it's still somewhere on the internet], who was the great sound engineer of the death metal bands of the late 80s, early 90s. He explained that to get the sound so special that his productions had, including the first Obituary albums (and many more, Death, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Napalm Death, Suffocation, etc.), he used a Marshall Valvestate, and nothing more. It confirms what you say. Obituary was one of the most loyal bands to Scott Burns. They discovered the recording with him. It is therefore not surprising that the Marshall Valvestate remains a reference for them. The Marshall Valvestate already gives a sound close to the "Scott Burns" sound, without the ProCo Rat. But now, Trevor Peres is known for playing live with a Boss Tuner, a ProCo Rat, and a Boss Noise gate, plugged into a Marshall JCM800.
(A cheap trick to get a sound approaching Obituary : use an MXR Blue Box, with the two knobs turned all the way up, it works with any guitar and amp!)
Apparently his main amp was a JCM800 and the Valvestate was for Death. I picked up a Valvestate just for Death. Haha.
How effective is that Blue Box trick? Or should I just get a Proco rat?
@@TheJMan1K kinda late but just get the Rat.
Do the "Chuck Schuldiner" tone, since you have a 8100.
It’s in the works. I tried and failed and here is a link. I’ve since bought his pedal and will try again. This is no bass and the wrong guitar: ruclips.net/video/_44MxOiITEI/видео.html
CIRCLE OF TONE. What pedal? When I saw him it was on the Leprosy tour. At that time he was using a Gallien Krueger combo amp and a DS1 pedal.
Yeah.. no pedal. An 8100 with a DiMarzio x2n humbucker is the Chuck sound.
Kevin Kelly Actually Chuck used a pedal on the first few Death albums. He spoke about it when he did an interview about the Valvestate.
EverettDudgeon138 he used a jcm 800 with a pedal on the first 3 albums right? Because after spiritual healing i think he started using the valvestate and running straight into it w no pedals
bands like obituary and morbid angel are what make me glad i live in tampa
The old celtic frost special....tone knob rolled off!
Great vid man, hilarious story too haha. Sounds like you nailed that tone. Its crazy how the Obituary tone sounds so mid-scooped but still pops out in the mix
+TheShredMethod Thanks man! Glad you liked the vid. Yeah the secret is the nasty tone is made more palatable by rolling off the tone on the guitar. So that makes it pleasing. Great trick.
It's not mid scooped at all.
Awesome, thanks for your work! I've seen Obituary in '96, that sound puts a smile on my face
Boboh Buboh yep. It's like a memory. You hear it and you remember what you were doing in the early 90's.
Yes!! They're from Seffner (Tampa area) where we live!
Nice one mate, sounded great, slowly we rot was a groundbreaker back in the day, that voice!! Loved to hear your reminisces, Rock city and Bradford queens hall were my haunts, mental gigs!!
Jobrimar82 Glad I could take you back to your stomping grounds!
Great stuff man.I just came across your channel with that Iron Maiden Video you did.I do the guitar in an Iron Maiden Tribute Band,so for me there was great information within that video.Like you I started playing guitar back in the 'glory days´ of Thrash and Death Metal, and listening to your story here ist like listening to many of mine.Haha.Metal takes it's price.....but it's worth!Every minute....Go on making these great content.Got my support!Cheers!
blseddie Thanks man! Judging by the BLS part of your user name, you will love the next vid I'm working on. Cheers! Owen.
Yeah you are right bro.So I'll love what's coming then.It's very cool how deep you dig into that technical 'Nerd' thing here and then.I am working on electric guitars every day.Not only for living, simply passion.It's so addictive man.Hehe.Once you're in, you are trapped forever.And the best thing is,after 30 Years of playing Metal, there are still so many things to explore within the best music ever created.A little pathos here, but hey, it's simply Metal.Cheers.ED.
blseddie Yep. Being a metalhead is like a club. If I see a guy in a bar with a metal shirt on, you just know you will get along with them. Thanks for watching dude! Lots to come!
You got a great tone with that old valvestate. Since you already bought it you could do an episode about Chuck from Death.
Crimson Ghost yep. Death will be on the cards. :-) easy. Just double the speed of the Obituary track and paste my Murphy copycat solo over it. Haha.
Don't underestimate those old valvestates. They are still amazing amps, and most people have no idea how good they are so they are still dirt cheap.
Just closed a deal with a guy for an 8100 with the 8412 cab for just 228€, can't wait to pick it up!
Valvestates are underrated for tone. I was able to pull a rhythm tone that was chunky but still crisp.
Obituary is classic death metal with a touch of black metal and a heaping dose of groove. PS, Obituary in their heyday... pretty much any time they hit the stage.
TheRosswise once the power transistors fail, the replacements are unobtaneum. A current replacement almost changes the whole sound of the amp. Sadly same thing happens with the Marshall 3210s and their MOSFet power transistors.
Dude. Absolutely loving this channel. Amazing story - felt like I was there. Thank you for this awesome content. Cheers!
Thanks man.
Nice work. Obituary's one of my favorite bands and I'm finally going to see them next month in Pomona. Very excited. I just hope my experience is much more uneventful than yours. Gotta admit, though, your story is true metal. Thanks for the vid.
Haha. Yeah, hopefully your nose will survive.
I love my Valvestate. It goes from old Swedish death metal straight to modern tones if you run a decent overdrive into it.
It is tight as fek
Fantastic! Loved the tone. Great work.
Daisy Doodle cheers! I really like the solo that I improvised on this. some of it was old licks I’ve played a few times but the new stuff was on the spot and I could not repeat it if I tried. Haha.
Could you do one with suffocations pierced from within tone
Thrashed To Death That's an awesome tone. I have a lot going on right now but I'll keep it in mind.
He'll yea. I don't think he's that good though.
Wasn't that an Ampeg vh140c with boost? BC Rich guitars with Dimarzio Super Distortion pickups. C# tuning?
@@WildChildMcCloud no, that was effigy and they used a bbe rack and no boosts. Pierced from Within was a valvestate head boosted with a Zoom driver pedal
Loved the whole video man! Great Stuff!
Thanks man! Appreciate it.
Awesome video mate, both for the analysis of their tone and your story. The other guitarist from the death metal band I was in at the time the first Obituary album came out could get a very similar sound using an old Marshall JMP-style head, a Boss DS-2 and a Washburn guitar (a super strat with that fire crackle finish that was popular at the time) by turning the presence down really low on his amp. I had a JCM800 and I couldn't get the same sound.
RichVader his presence may have acted like their tone control on the guitar. Great info, thanks.
I love Obituary! :) Thanks for uploading this video! Take care, Sam.
+Machiwoomiapoo Cheers Sam. Obituary are literally brutal. My nose is proof.
... you are right about his tone, and 8100 is really great amp for deathmetal. 8100 was also used in studio by Chuck Schuldiner, but on many live videos I can clearly see that Trevor's strat doesn't have any active pickups and there is often JCM 800 2204 behind his back. Looks to me like his sound is just about string gauge, hi-out humbucker and good overdrive pedal in front of marshall head (not talking about plexi or bluesbreaker of course :)) To my opinion his studio sound is made by valvestate marshall, doesn't have that "warmth" and dynamic of tubes (no need in deathmetal) and when he goes live then he uses JCM800 for whatever reason, as long as that typical Marshall compression is there all sounds good ...
+hovadopekelne yep! It def sounds SS to me. Apparently it was a JCM800 but I have a hard time believing it. I have one, and the SS Marshall sounded way closer than the JCM800. I've seen them live using the JCM800 and it sounds off compared to the album. Still awesome but not as nasty. Thanks for watching!
... I don't think deathmetal needs tube amps anyway, it's just big fat marketing. Songs like "Face Your God" proves it ...
and to Circle of Tone
The valve state 8100 was used LIVE on stage by Chuck Schuldiner and Shannon.
For the most accurate Obituary guitar tone used a the Jcm 800 with a rat and humbucker style guitar like Fender etc..
Only other ss amp comes close to the jcm 800 is a old amp I used to own called Valve State 8200 it's 100watt x100watt basically a 200 watter.
The guitarist from Obituary who uses a Fender uses stock fender tex-mex humbucker not just Emg's.
For years the secret to Trevor's sound has been an early Pro-Co Rat slamming the front end of 2204 or Mk2 JCM800. Bass and Mids all the way up and treble cut. Also, keep in mind, the Valvestate amps were not being made when Slowly We Rot, Cause of Death, and The End Complete were recorded. Not sure if boosting a Lead 100 MOSFET would yield a good result or not.
A story of trauma! Thanks for sharing that experience Owen.
Dude, this story deserves its own movie!
Great story about the obituary gig! I laughed at the metal plasti joke..Great silver lining to a very traumatic pit experience and Thank God for putting a bouncer in your path with some sense and caring!
Christopher Godeezy Yep a lot of these old school bouncers are used to this from boxing/sparing/cornerman etc. And Bristol is a rugby town so my odds were good.
I may be 3 years late. But that tone is insane, and insane playing too!
The tone control is how I was able to get close in the old days. gave it a thicker almost nasally sound. I ran through an old Carvin X-100b head from 1988 no pedals and Carvin 4-12 cab He-12 speakers.
jgmopar Yep! I mention that on this video but later on. It’s the main technique.
I have been playing through an Epiphone blackback custome pro all stock. I think the tone pot is messed up but it gets the sound really good. I was messing around with my little BOSS katana Mini and that guitar and it is so close I was really surprised. I did it after watching this video and it got me fired up to play with that tone again
jgmopar Hell yeah! That’s what this channel is about. Getting people tinkering.
The other thing I learned from the Obituary sound was the 5th on the bottom power chord. To me it sounds like they use it quite often in there music. If they don't use it they made it so I did it without knowing it was a real chord a long time ago
I saw them live a month ago and i can 100% confirm he IS USING MARSHALL JCM800's, he also was using a strat, but it was a strat with a basic seymour duncan pickup, I tried out a hss stratocaster through a rat and an 800 at my local store and got the EXACT tone immediately
Very nice, sounds close enough to me. Even when you don't get it bang on, you still get really cool tones.
Obituary were the first death metal band I heard. I got cause of death from cash converters because it had a cool cover and logo.
I played it on the big stereo downstairs and absolutely shit myself when he started singing. I could not fathom that a human could make those noises. My dad came in half way through and he was utterly disgusted. He asked me if this is what I was into and when i said yes he gave me such a disappointed look. 😂 For years after that he tried to get me out of metal by making me listen to stuff he liked but it was too late.
One of the most insane heaviest albums of the time in metal. Its a masterpiece. the sound is so thick, get about 16 guitar tracks and you'll get to reel it in. lol. a ton of badass solos also. Obituary 'cause of death' album.
Ok so it may not have been specifically the valvestate on Cause of Death. Because apparently it was released in 91. So the SPECIFIC amp search continues. But I think it's a solid state Marshall because none of my tube heads had that specific vibe.
It could be the Marshall 5150 SS combo which came with g12t-75 speaker stock.
Cause Of Death, Slowly We Rot, World Demise are all the original ProCo Rat into a mid 80s JCM800 (100watt) through a regular Marshall 4x12 and a passive mid-output humbucker in the bridge position with the tone all the way off. There's no solid state in the tone. But the magic X factor in there is the amount of studio compressors and outboard mixing and then mastering that goes into it. All of this information is from walking through the rig with Trevor Peres himself.
nathcore thanks man. I have a JCM800 and it sounded too modern/clear even with my guitar tone turned down. I really need to get a good channel strip. Great info. Thanks.
I heard it was 20% of the way on the tone. I mentioned that in the vid but it was near the end. For the vid I was at 20% not all the way off.
It takes some tinkering, but it comes out when you figure it out. The same thing people scratch their heads with HM2 pedals trying to get that Entombed/Dismember sound. You have to get the amp head to the right sweet spot and then then pedal to saturate it on top of that and then you also have to be able to play in that way to make it really juice out.
nathcore if I remember right, I used some extreme settings on my hm2 pedal back in the day. But one setting was more subtle. Check it out, needs lower tuning and more gain but the essence is there: ruclips.net/video/7G6hoHRAzIs/видео.html
10 across the dials of the HM2! But the amp settings have to be like that dry Slayer JCM800 lighter edge distortion. You're close, though.
I will never not absolutely love that Cause Of Death guitar tone. I can still remember the first time I heard that album.
What's the song/ riff from 2:10 to 2:35?
chopped in half. he's playing it wrong tho
@@t0nyhawk368 thanks
Great job on the tone and love the Obituary and Kreator story (:
Glad your nose looks better lol
Yep! I’m sick now though because after surgery I keep getting nasal infections. And it’s Hex Mass time too!
That's no good, bud. My best wishes!
Cool man. Great playing
Thanks man!
This is incredible.
Do you think you could figure out Incantation's Onward to Golgotha tone? Or even Mortal Throne of Nazarene?
Abraham Watson That’s some deep cuts! Hex-Mass is booked I’m afraid but you never know.
I've met James Murphy a couple times. He was on cause of death, Ummm.yeah I was at this New Jersey metal festival inside this giant club.I bought him a bunch of beers and we chilled out at the bar and talked for about 45 minutes. He introduced me to Donald and John Tardy too. This was extremely early 90s.it was a smaller size club but only have about maybe a thousand people..
Very cool.
Did you ever try Death? I fucking love them. RIP Chuck.
Working on it right now.
I once bought a compressor pedal off of Dave.Small world. great video you have the tone.
Joe Dov I swear in my area the same 5 people sell gear to each other. Haha.
Some time has gone by...I actually like that solo I improvised. Solid state done right can have interesting dynamics. If you liked the Obituary vid, come join my Facebook group and we can talk about production, tone and getting the most out of budget gear: facebook.com/groups/1710152262614319/
I believe your Obituary concert experience is also in a video somewhere, on a live dvd where the added clips from old shows etc.
That does sound familar.
Dale Weber if you could dig that out, it would be epic. The roadie sung so it should stick out.
Very well done👏🤘
Ricardo Lopez Cheers! Glad you are digging the vids.
That obituary story is awesome.
Michael Bruce Thanks Mike. It was a hell of a time to be a teenager.
I forgot to say.. you pretty closely nailed the Obituary tone. Badass! It's actually a pretty unique tone.
Michael Bruce Thanks man. Glad you liked it. Today people are obsessed with mids and that limits you imo.
The friend you mention is Dave Linsk of Overkill??
Gor Fman I can’t divulge my sources. If I do, I could face E-limination.
Wow! Holy HELL! 3:50 on to 4:25 absolute insanity! Great playing man!
It’s a beast!
sounds like you nailed it and alan wests solo tone. great story as well. I saw them back in the day as well. we got back stage with them my mate asked the security guards if he could get his records signed. they said hold on wait here they asked the band and they said sure and we got back stage with them. they were realy nice guys.
Niall Stewart That’s awesome. I’d love to meet them.
Hey c.o.t.!!! Which channel of the marshal did you use to get this tone? The OD one or the od2? Also did you use the rat has a clean boost or where the settings in your picture what you used
I can’t remember. Haha. Perhaps you can zoom in on the pic. I’ll be soaring off the Marshall for one of the Hex Mass bands. Check out the new vids I did. If you like Obituary you will love Hex Mass.
This video made me listen to Obituary after over a 2 year dry spell. Thanks!
Bones98 YES! Haha.
It sounds dead on. That valvestate sounds friggin good man. I'm shocked
Yep. It’s great for aggressive stuff.
I haven't heard Obituary before but that sounded great! What is the name of the song you played?
Chopped in Half. It's an absolute killer song
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thanks!!
After watching this video 5 years ago, I am still going after the Trevor obituary sound. I still love this video. I made an attempt to re-create the tone using pedals
If I’m not mistaken I saw an interview where the one guy who plays a strat also rolls the tone all the way off
Hell yeah do a Sepultura song, maybe from Arise! possibly some Forbidden too!!!
KlrRaptoR both are 100% certain. I'm obsessed with Forbidden.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Forbidden rule!
Arise what a great sepultura offering my favorite, as well as forbidden twisted into form and forbidden evil albums.
Amazing story man , love it 🤘
Dude!!!! Why aren't you my neighbor? I would love to come over and jam!!! \m/
thanx dude..i enjoyed that so much..obituary.!!!! Fuck yes...i. believe in the power of the proco..i have had two in my chain for ten yrs..tampa had a sick scene...such thick bottom ended tone
Natred Von Diskust I lived in Tampa. Unfortunately after the glory days of Death metal. I always used to look at the DM guys photos with the swamp backgrounds and though how interesting/worlds away from Wales that place looks. Never thought I'd end up living there.
Nice extol tshirt!
What do you think of the new fleshkiller album?
Great and informative stuff, subbed! Keep up the good work
I like it but I think it’s lacking in weirdness. What I love about Extol and Mantric is they went off the rails now and then I to interesting territory. Flesh Killer is a little bit samey. And I wanted more of those clean vocals because IMO the guitarist is a criminally underrated/underused singer.
CIRCLE OF TONE.
I see your point, its a bit more straight forward but yes, the vocals is sick.
Had the pleasure of seeing them live for their very first gig, and also talked to Ole, the guitarist/composer. I asked about the guitar sound on the album, as i like the raw tone. It was apparently a mix of one of his axe fx presets and a 5153.
Great info! I think back in the day they used Marshall power amps and guitar preamps. Like an Engl type. But that’s just from memory. I haven’t researched it yet. I know I won’t have the specific gear but I’ll just have to wing it.
Thanks for clearing this up.
The broken nose story is legend.
+Hiroshi13 Lol. You should have seen the pit. It was like an explosion. Thanks for watching.
You should do one of Municipal Waste
i do believe they rolled the tone knob off also
Yep! I do mention that in the vid.
CIRCLE OF TONE. yeah as soon as I sent that you said it. good job on these vids man
What a crazy, classic story, brother! Wow! Glad you're ok. Your nose looks great, btw.
Classic band from the start as still a fan now at 47 and big impact in my guitar playing 👍👍
+Circle of Tone That sounded really close. Now, I am closer to getting a tone I've been trying to get since 1990. How is your amp set up (EQ, tone, levels of gain, etc...)? The closest I've gotten is using a Marshall JCM 2000 TSL with 1960 A/B cabs loaded with Celestion G75 12 inch speakers, a Boss GE 7 EQ pedal (heavy on the highs and bass, with a bit of mids), amp with deep boost on, tone set dark, gain at 100%, treble about 7, mids about 4, bass about 9. The guitars that got me closest were a 1970 Gibson Les Paul standard (EMG 81 bridge, stock neck pickups), an old, neck thru B.C Rich Warlock (like you see in old pictures of Slayer, with Les Paul type head stock with the fancy R and the zillion knobs and toggles, stuff like active pre amp, built in parametric EQ, coil toggles, etc...) with Dimarrzio Super Distortion pickups, and my Jackson JDR 94 with EMG 81 in the neck, EMG 85 in the bridge (It's the only guitar I put the pickups like that, plus some gold lettered EMG single coil in the middle). Also, even tho people rag on the Line 6, my Line 6 Spider 2 practice amp with a pro model Jackson Kelly loaded with Seymour Duncan Invaders gets it really good also. You have to know how to set up a Line 6.
I'm gonna scour the pawn shops and look for that Valvestate, because your tone was really close. I was very pleasantly surprised when I heard the awesomeness. It's pretty much just like the album when I listen to your recreation of what is among my favorite tones of all time. Can you do the S.O.D (1st album tone) and Ministry's Psalm 69? My rigs get me really close, but maybe you can get me closer
SOD and Ministry has to be done. Thanks for sharing dude. My settings may be in the vid.
Hey C.O.T.. You might be able to find out more info on Obituary's recordings from Scott Burns. Back in the day he was "The Man" at Morrisound in Tampa. I think he is into software these days you can find him on Facebook.
Yep. He was the man.
Back in the day our band Bludgeon played a few shows with Obituary and Gardy loo. Ben from Gardy loo was in Nasty Savage. We did some recording at Morisound with Scott Burns. This was in the early 90's..
My first Obituary show they opened for Sepultura. Total mayhem.
Diabolik771 the pit must have been crazy. Sepultura was one of my fav thrash gigs.
I know this is an old video but which marshall amp do you think is the best for that “old school” sound ?
A 1979-1983 JCM800 2203 with a boost like a TS9. The best JCM800's were the early 80's "vertical input" ones imo.
A 1979-1983 JCM800 2203 with a boost like a TS9. The best JCM800's were the early 80's "vertical input" ones imo.
14:08.....I know that feeling and you just explained it. I was in a head on car accident and the airbag went off. Convinced my nose was broken and id knocked my teeth out
Obituary is the best Death Metal Band imo. 🏆
you gotta turn the tone knob all the way down. boom obituary
Yep. I mention that in the video but I didn’t emphasize it enough. That really is key.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Fuck yes brotha!!! i must have dozed of for a sec haha
CIRCLE OF TONE. its the celtic frost tone aswell
Pretty much!
sounds awesome! kept waiting for the vocals to kick in! I saw Obituary back in like 92-93 in this little shithole building in the middle of a corn field, literally called the outhouse! lawrence kansas
mike gager if I tried those vocals, I'd have to get an adult diaper.
That sounds like an awesome gig. That's what it's all about!
Damn. That's Hard Core. I had my wrist dislocated in a pit, so I reset it myself. I wasn't going to miss Machine Head, Faith No More and Pantera.
Hell of a lineup!
From the Beer Keller to the Royal Infirmary is 650m, to St Michaels 900m. So that’s around a 3 minute jog ;-)
Good times. LOL
I think I like the nose story better than the tone, even though Obituary is pretty much my fav band. Hehehe.
I used to get a decent ballpark Obituary tone out of an Aria AB30 bass amp, with an Ultra Metal pedal and a BC Rich Warlock guitar. Are you gonna do something with Crowbar any time soon?!
Yep that's on my radar.
Man it would be so cool if you could recreate the old Morbid Angel sound. Find a vintage UV 7 string with old dimarzios and everything.
Toby K. I did Morbid Angel. Check out my old vids. Death is coming soon too.
Excellent stuff! Keep up the gear nerdery :D
... what's your string gauge ... Can't find any 8100 around here and I'm not sure whether VS100 could do the same job for me, so I'm thinking about selling my old stuff and buy a JCM800 with Rat distortion, Warmoth one piece maple neck for my 87 Standard Strat body, some hi output bare knuckle humbucker with alnico V magnet, soft plectrum and few hours of alchemy should probably do it ...
+hovadopekelne Not to market to you...but I am bringing out my own amp pulling together all of the stuff I’ve learned. Head, cab and a combo. So if you do purge and are in the market, come visit my website and check out the demos in the future. It’s going to be right up your alley. Like a boosted JCM800 only more clarity and thump in the chest if you need it.
... thanks man, going to check it out ...
They just played here in Greensboro, NC a few weeks back, but I couldn't go... :0(
Great stuff as always my friend, i know this might seem a little mainstream or not who knows but i would love to hear a dethklok, thanks so much for great material🤘🤘👏
Ricardo Lopez I love Dethklok. Good shout. Seen them live etc and they blew mastodon off the stage.
owen..the rat 2 is and has been a staple in my chain forever..i prefer stacking a ts9 type circuit w..have you played modded rats..ie,keeley .?? turbo rat?? i have never got my hands on one to play prior to purchase could u tell me the major shifts in style..is it just different clipping affecting the distortion..or is there a real nice change in bottom end or a mid cut./ hump
Natred Von Diskust mine is modded by gtrwrks. Very bombastic lows. Out of control girth.
Hell of a story! I almost regret selling my Valvestate8100 last year;). Soon i'll get a T.Miranda...
Thanks man.
i found you by accident an liked what you shared an always glad you did . just im getting ready to buy a quitar from g an l the jerry cantrel delux is it worth buying.
jimicrack29 thibodeaux I remember Fluff saying he was really disappointed with the Cantrell sig guitar. Perhaps it was a different model though?
I don't have any experience with that model. What style do you want to play?
It sounds like you have some clipping in the sample you played starting from 01:40. My other guess is that these compression artefacts.
Do you remember what your EQ settings were on the marshall and the settings for the Rat?
I find tone knob at full very beneficial when going obituary. Can you make a double eq in series with w shaped position and use them on iic+ James tone? He always had that covered eq 1u rack unit hidden in his rack. Probably used with crunch berry iic+
Cool playing man
Thanks Sanjeev!
CIRCLE OF TONE. In what tuning are death metal guitar songs usually played ?
This was an interesting one. It wasn’t tuned to a proper tuning. It was in between which suggests the tape was sped up or slowed down. A lot of black metal is standard E tuned. Modern Death metal tends to be drop Cish.
In 1999. my band had a pretty big gig in front of 2500-3000 people and we were the first band. We (the bands) were gathering around in the backstage, waiting to see what we will do with the tone on stage and all that stuff, suddenly I had a epileptic seizure... fuck! I was getting conscious while in the ER and I got a dose of infusion and I was kinda OK. I got a cab (45-50 minutes passed since the story started) I got back, my band was packing to go home and I was like "Where the fuck are you going guys?!". "You can't play like this", blahblah... And long story short - We kicked asses that night! \m/
Staminist show must go on! Thanks for sharing.
Extol 😀 Fantastic music and fantastic people👍
You should go to Morrisound studios, ask Scott Burns and you ll get the precise super ultimately compressed Slowly we Rot & Cause of Death sound !
+Deathrasher I would love that! I thought they moved.
They did unfortunately ! I like your analysis' btw, nice job.
THanks man!
I'm pretty sure James Murphy used the neck pickup on his warlock for rhythm
Arch Druid cool. I think it's the tone rolled off on the guitar. I mention that secret but at the end. But I don't think James recorded much ryth. More of a solo guy. But that's pure speculation on my part. I remember thinking how crazy it was that James was in so many bands. It kinda sucked as they all happened to be my fav bands, and his solos were slightly samey IMO. I know most go nuts for him but I thought he was slightly predictable when writing solos. Obviously talented but not my cup of tea. His solos were too pretty for death metal. I'm being hyper critical because his peers were Skolnik, Calvert etc. I think his best work was Death.
Nice. Do the Nasum Human 2.0 tones. Some truly disgusting splattery grind goodness. I can basically create that with my software setup, but curious what you can do and/or anyone knows what was used.
Incredible playing man, fuck!
ao el THANKS! Really happy to have you in the Circle!
Thanks bro!
I remember watching an interview of Trevor Peres talking about getting that tone in the early 90s saying that the Rat pedal was the key to their sound. I guess its kind of like the Boss distortion is the key to the 90s Swedish Death metal tone.
Buy the way how about doing Entombed tone? Maybe Stranger Aeons?
Or seeing that you have the 8100 maybe give it a try at the Death tone.
cortarelva Good call. Ill def do death. Brilliant band. I have EMG81 at my disposal too but not in a Floyd guitar. I did a quickie on entombed style a while back but sold the hm2 pedal. But due to requests I recently bought the HM-2 pedal again and I'll be doing a special on Euro death in Dec called Decmember: here is my old clip albeit not down tuned/dirty enough ruclips.net/video/7G6hoHRAzIs/видео.html
As of recently Trevor said he plays an inactive pick up, the Rat, turns his tone all the way off on his guitar.
I have seen a lot of your videos, and you talk about your Thrash band on the Death/Thrash metal bands videos, did you ever recorded anything with your band? would be amazing to hear!!
There are a few thrash songs on my last album from a few years back. ruclips.net/video/QN-kiRVC9rg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ydGCcSNo7Ww/видео.html
🤘WALES🤘Bro! Cool Channel.
Cheers boyo.
Nice tone, and excellent T-shirt. Don't meet too many Extol fans around!
TRexSpaceStation Yes! Check out Mantric and Fleshkiller. Both ex extol guys. Brilliant. Mantric first album is amazing.
Dave Linsk from Overkill?
Great story and video! I was hijacked to a metal show last night in Denver, CO. Didn't know I was going until an hour before, ended up being a great night! Goth rock band from the 90's called Seraphim Shock. They were pretty amazing. It was like Orgy meets Misfits with some heavy black metal visuals and lyrical content. Keep making videos Boyo!
+PBJTime Awesome. They are good nights.
FYI Bierkeller is no more, alas. St Michael’s the nearest hospital is less than mile.
Ah that sucks.
The video I saw Trevor used a stock strat h.s.s elite with the tone off. Jcm 800, tuner, noise suppreser,an the rat.
Yeah I fucked this one up.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE lmao……………..still sounded cool, but yeah I saw that strat vid too, your tone still sounded sweet here, even if not the same
Yeah I saw that too