I’ll never forget the recording when he was on the phone with Amber telling her he was having a great time in Paris when instead he was at a vigil for Laci. Such a disgusting man. I also really applaud Amber for her role in working with the authorities and speaking out publicly.
Who knows ? Amber could of know all of this Scott & amber could’ve set it all up and she played dumb to get off any charges don’t believe everything you see tv/ social media
I will never get over that picture of Laci and her beautiful smile attending a Christmas party alone while Scott was at a different Christmas party with Amber. He is an evil man.
Well she had precious Connor 🍼 But yeah, I get what you mean. I have a little baby girl right now, and I never considered myself alone when I was pregnant with her 👶🏻💗
Laci put on blinders and was determined to have that baby. She may have harbored doubts about her marriage but could not have imagined he would snuff her out at their very home. I find this story a true horror story! Scott was empty inside, a narcissist and psychopath, that, like Chris Watts, went after the next shiny object, proving only that these sick individuals think they can outsmart others, leaving lives in ruins and tragedy in their wake.
Wow I just realized just how similar Scott Peterson & Chris Watts are. They were both the youngest, "star" child, spoiled & overly praised growing up, quiet & rarely showed emotion, were having affairs, & both killed their pregnant wives while having financial troubles. Crazy.
Who else would kill a pregnant woman? Scott is so guilty. Conner would have been 7 days younger than my grandson. I have driven by that house a couple of times. I lived about 2 miles away when this happened.
@@SusanGK1 -Conner (baby) was determined to be alive until Jan 3rd by both the States expert and the Medical examiner? Furthermore, Dr Charles March testified there is no way that Scott and Laci Peterson's unborn baby could have died any earlier than Dec. 29, 2002. Dr Allison Galloway determined the baby could have even been alive as far along as Jan 14th. So how is he guilty if Laci was alive after the 24th? -How did Conners body end above the water break and high tide line if he was in the ocean? -How did his left ear get permanently flattened against his head and a rectangular piece of material was over it? -Why was their no animal feeding on Conner whatsoever? - How did plastic wrap get knotted around his neck that had to be cut off, not far from a plastic bag which was never tested? Dr. Cyril Wecht, who examined Conner's body but who did not testify, told Greta van Susteren that Conner's head measured 28 cm circumference and his neck measured 20 cm (On the Record, October 27, 2004). 28 cm = 11.02360 inches; 20 cm = 7.87400 inches. He confirmed the measurements in another interview with Fox News, and expressed his disbelief that the twine accidentally wrapped around Conner's neck. He also conjectured about the baby being in a bag. -Why was Laci's uterus was at least 10 cm (3.9") smaller than it should have been? Certainly explains why the incision to remove Conner was not visible on her body, and the injured 9th rib, postmortem injury is in the same location where such an incision would have been made. -Why did police ignore evidence, tips and sightings that points in a completely different direction? Isn't it standard police practice to track down a missing person's last known whereabouts? It's not like they didn't have credible eyewitnesses that seen her walking on the 24th. Some called multiple times. Police ignored them. Sounds like tunnel vision and incompetence led to her death since the science proves she was alive after that day. - Why was there no cadaver scent if Laci had been dead in the boat, warehouse, truck or home?
I think he never loved Laci, never wanted a child, never wanted to be a family man and in the end he was just another sociopath who thought he could get away with murder
I think being with Amber blew his mind sexually. That mighty powerful V rocked his world that he went and done an evil thing. Not Amber’s fault. Careful guys.
I don't think Scott loved Laci any longer, or maybe he never did. I believe Scott wanted to get rid of Laci and Connor, not just Connor. He wanted to be free, but he also didn't want to pay alimony to Laci and child support for Connor. This is an extremely sad story for Laci, Connor, and Laci's family and friends. Let Scott rot in prison!!
Or maybe it was because laci caught the people burglarizing the house across the street and confronted them. I would bet my life scott had nothing to do with this murder
"...sign his rights away". LOL As if that were possible. There isn't a woman alive that would give up free child extortion payments for 20 years and the opportunity to "get even" with the man that doesn't want her anymore. Ask yourself..... why is it that a woman can 'drop off" unwanted babies at a "safe haven" location, but if a man were to try that, he'd be in handcuffs and charged with all manner of felonies tout de suite?
I don’t think it was just about the baby, it was about wanting to be free of both of them and her family and the financial responsibility that was cutting into his playboy ways.
@ams14691 I believe the exact same thing you do. Can you imagine a man, not only killing his wife, but his unborn son as well. There is definitely something mentally wrong with Scott Peterson for doing this. He's a psychopath at the least!
And the best part is that it was a FRESHWATER boat. So if it was in salt water the engine would corrode. Add that to the freshwater tackle he had on him … what a joke
@Siyanibingelela It's an aluminum boat, genius. Aluminum boats are great in salt water. Outboards are also designed for fresh water and salt water. Brocchini testified that Scott had, in the boat, 2 fishing rods and a small tackle box which contained old fishing jigs and lures. The boat came equipped with a fish finder and a small trolling motor. So, Scott had everything with him necessary to troll fish, which is what he said he was doing. He had forgotten some new lures in truck. The main reason he took the boat out was try out. Brocchini: Did you buy bait? Scott: Nope, I'm not a bait fisherman. Brocchini: Did you troll? Scott: Little bit. I mean a lot of, lot of the reason I went was just to get that boat in the water to see, you know --- Stop running around spreading lies.
Harshman Grogan testimony GERAGOS: And they have witnessed the incident, and don't know if they have called Modesto PD yet or not, correct? GROGAN: Correct. GERAGOS: Okay. JUDGE: Does he say what time of the day that was? GERAGOS: This was at 10:08? GROGAN: That would be 10:08 a.m. GERAGOS: So, at this point, Mr. Harshman has called on the 28th at 6:50 said he saw a woman being forced into a van, gave a description of the van. Then approximately two months later a New York City police detective says, I have talked to, presumably, Harshman's wife who may have witnessed the incident, correct? GROGAN: Yes. He got the information from a friend of Miss Harshman's, Mr. Harshman's wife, I believe. GERAGOS: Okay. And specifically you contacted him on May 18th, 2004, correct? GROGAN: Yes. GERAGOS: And he, when you contacted him, he told you that the same day he called into the police department. You put it down at 12:28, right? GROGAN: Yes, based on that tip. GERAGOS: I don't think you ever saw this. I'm just going to show this to you. When I went through the tip lines, at 14789, it looks like somebody called in, but the name that was written down was Thomas Harsh. Do you see that? GROGAN: I see it. GERAGOS: Okay. You hadn't seen that before right now, had you? GROGAN: No. GERAGOS: Okay. It says, reporting that three or four days ago he saw a pregnant lady being pushed into a van. Caller given to Detective Holmes. You were not aware that Harsh had indicated that it was three or four days prior to the 28th when he had actually phoned in; isn't that correct? GROGAN: No, I don't think so. GERAGOS: Okay. This is the first time that you have seen that, because when the caller, whoever took down the information, they just wrote Harsh as opposed to Harshman, correct? GROGAN: Correct. GERAGOS: Okay. And he said that he, specifically, on the same day that he had called in, he had seen a van parked on the south side of Scenic, west of Claus, which he described as a 70s, American-made model, beige in color, correct? GROGAN: Is that the tip that you are reading from top? GERAGOS: No. I'm at 4527. GROGAN: Yes.
That's what I'll never understand it takes 2 He could have been honest with her and told her he didn't want to settle down but he chose to marry and procreate e With her so I guess he couldn't be honest with anyone not even himself
Murdering her and his own kid is the worst way to get out of it. Just man up dude, you married her and then impregnated her. Why would anyone think it’s ok to take her life and his child’s life because he changed his mind? That’s just so sick. Like there’s people out there that would give anything to marry a girl as beautiful and by all accounts, as loving and nice as her, let alone be able to father a child of their own. So ungrateful and psychotic, ugh. Get a part-time job if the child support is too much to bear, ya bum.
And this is when a woman says “you are free to go. I don’t want anything from you” I bet men who kill their wives is bc the wives fight a separation or divorce. Threatened to take everything away from them. N there’s no way a woman cannot know her man well enough to know what he is capable of doing. Evil doesn’t hide. Eventually you can see the devil. He stares back you. You just need to pay attention and not ignore the signs
People with narcissistic traits tend to think they can talk their way out of things. Look how many court cases we’ve seen that in lately. Amber Heard, Sarah Boone, Jessy Kurzewski (sp?), Courtney Clenney, Kouri Richins, Darrell Brooks. They have no self awareness or accountability
@@sophie8394 As if no one innocent has ever done prison time? Every year people get released 20, 30 years after being sent to jail because it was discovered that he was innocent all along.
@@smc2673 I’m surprised you didn’t start your comment with “as someone that”..like you do every single time you comment about anything on YT from your Moms basement. Get a life troll.
@@smc2673 stay classy? Lol. It moved quick for Tony, he doesn’t know these people personally. What is wrong with him saying that? Do you think it would offend someone? Don’t worry about it, you’re doin too much.
Yep, Aphrodite is right. He didn’t want the baby and was threatened by it. He even said something to the effect after Laci became pregnant. He told someone in the family that he was hoping for infertility. When someone tells you who they really are, listen.
And this report said there was infertility problems, wonder what that really was about…so sad for a woman who wanted to become a mom and has not the best husband material to be the father 😢 Sadly we see this so much.
But, it is confusing because he still had sex with her and got her pregnant. He stayed in the marriage. He knew she wanted to be a Mom, so why not divorce her? Just strange. His time was running out because she had a doctor's appointment. He was getting pressure from the affair, so he did a terrible thing. So sad.
@@teeahtate I heard Laci knew he cheated on her in college but still refused to see the red flags. We have to stop raising our little girls to be too nice and show them the red flags early on. Show them what boundaries look like and encourage them to have strong boundaries. Show them to respect themselves by not accepting anything less than what they know they deserve. No one deserves to be lied to, to be gaslit and to be manipulated. It does nothing for us women to be obedient to a man. It does nothing for us women to "stand by your man" when we know he lies and cheats on us. If an open marriage is what two people want, then that's fine, at least they are open to honesty with one another, however, we know that most men are double standard and won't allow their women to be with another man, but it's all good when they do it, right? That's not an honest relationship between two people. And that's also a red flag.
I was pregnant the same time as Laci and I remember feeling so bad about her and her baby. I feel like he did it because he didn’t want the responsibility of being a father. He was probably irritated being a husband and it would only get worse in his eyes. He didn’t want to grow up.
Oh, I am confident he just wanted to sleep with other women or be with Ashley. Chris Watts, the dentist from Utah as well as that other woman that poisoned her husband… countless examples
He didn’t wanna grow up is correct. He still hasn’t grown up. What makes me sick besides the death of Laci and Connor is all the money that has been spent for his appeals. And the comment that Scott could have been in a book about the stupidest criminal is so true, the stuff he did was very easy to put him right up there as her murderer. Sad.
I had just moved to Sacramento, CA when I was home during the day. I watched part of Laci's memorial, and what a sad event, they played "Brown Eyed Girl" and a little boy came up to the podium and told the audience that he missed Laci because she helped him with his homework. Like the Solstice stated, he wanted to be free of Laci and her child. The psychopath that he is not sorry he killed Laci, nor is he sad about what occurred in their home that ended up with Laci being murdered. What is unimaginably horrible is that he is NOT repentant nor will he ever be. I think that Amber was in his crosshairs and would have killed HER also.
Scott Peterson is a monster. Period! It appears Laci was completely enthralled by his looks and could not bear to leave him. She probably thought the baby would “fix “everything.
He shouldn’t have sought treatment for infertility. Do you think the doctor told him he was the reason they couldn’t get pregnant? That would tick him off. How dare they question his manhood. And perhaps Laci mentioned his problem with infertility and that wasn’t a discussion he wanted to have. So evidently he wanted to prove he was a stud by having multiple affairs. What a slimy little guy.
Yep, sounds like it. She gave him her number. I think she really was into him, but maybe he was not that same way with her. It is sad, because he could have just left her alone. Really sad.
I think psychopaths do not think like normal people. He had no feelings for Laci nor his unborn son, he was “over” Laci’s usefulness and she probably had a fight with him the night he killed her, he killed her like you’d swat a fly. He thought he’d get away with it. He’s a monster.
@@pixels2u Why would he plan on going to the busiest marina to dump a body in boat he has never had in the water before in thr middle of the day? Her body was never duped in the bay. The water is on average 3 - 4 deep. How did the uterus 'tear' open over time? If so, why was there no animal feeding or any sign Conner was ever in the bay? Should we really believe Conner would make it through the rocks and so far up on to shore. The supposed track was a hazardous journey. Yet the only damage (a 'tear') was supposed to have been made by the police trying to pick it up. The cut or tear in the uterus makes 'coffin birth' impossible. The only ways in which a baby can be released from the mother is by birth or by C-section. Since testimony was offered that Laci didn't give birth to Conner, then we must assume that someone cut him from her living body. 27 days of searches before the bodies were even discovered. December 28, 30; Jan 8, 9, 11, 18, 24, 28; Feb 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 20, 21, 23, 26; March 1, 2, 3, 4, 11, 12, 13, 26, 27, 29; Are we expected to believe miles and miles of waterways and shoreline were patrolled by police. They didn't even cordon off anything during the search days. LOL Conner could not have washed ashore from any direction under the conditions that existed on April 13. The water level produced by the 5.88 high tide simply did not produce a waterway to carry him to where he was found. And he was beyond the debris line, which means that he was not pushed back to where he was found by the breaking waves. The SF Medical examine told the lead detective that it would be highly unlikely that 32 lbs would submerge the body. It would just float. He also said the currents would likely take the body out to sea. She was found nearly 4 months later. How do currents flowing Southbound at 4 knots place either body where they were found. -Conner (baby) was found above the high tide line and water break. -The baby's left ear was permanently flattened against the head, and a rectangular piece of material was over his ear. Plastic wrap knotted around his neck that had to be cut off, not far from a plastic bag which was never tested. The criminologist and medical examiner, both concluded that the twine could not have wrapped around Conner’s neck accidentally. Dr. Cyril Wecht noted, "never in a million years." Laci had a missing neck that is not consistent with any known disarticulation in aqueous environments. Laci's uterus was at least 10 cm (3.9") smaller than it should have been, explaining why the incision to remove Conner was not visible on her body, and the injured 9th rib, postmortem injury is in the same location where such an Dr Cheng said there was no explanation for Laci's body being found where it was. There was no evidence in the truck. There was no evidence in the boat. There was no evidence in the home. Cadaver dogs never found scent where Scott was - the only good scents led away from his locations. The alleged weight used to submerge (32 lbs) Laci's body should have had the body return to the surface in a few days, yet it was never spotted. Laci vanishes Dec 24th with a Croton watch the same day as the burglary across the street. A Croton watch was pawned just days later.
@@sophie8394 To quote you " Mark Geragos is a highly skilled attorney. He didn't use the Aponte tip bc he knew it was bogus. Multi level hearsay. " You said Laci was found in the same clothes she had worn on the 23rd. TRUTH Laci's clothes she had worn that day were identified in the home during the search and identified by Amy Rocha. GERAGOS: You saw the shoes that you thought she was wearing, I think I said the 18th. All, on the 18th you saw all, the whole outfit, basically, that you thought she was wearing on the 23rd? ROCHA: Yes. QUOTE " there's nothing I haven't reviewed. I've been reviewing it for more than 10 years. I'm not impressed by RUclips legal experts. And for the 2nd time. RN did NOT co author a book. The fact you don't even know that tells me everything I need to know about your expertise. " FACT RN did co author a book called 'we, the jury' QUOTE ("Are you aware the boat was never registered") FACT The boat WAS registered. The correct information including his name and address was filed with the DMV on 12-9-02. QUOTE ("Even though Ron already had a boat and a better one at that.... LOL") FACT Ron didn't have a boat. He had a float tube. QUOTE (...you don't have an explanation for why SP refused to even speak to John Walsh...") FACT He did speak to John walsh. Get your facts straight, stalker! John Walsh: "I talked to Scott on the phone for about 45 minutes and his parents for about an hour," Walsh said in the lobby of the DoubleTree Hotel. " -You said Scott did not have an anchor rope, FALSE. I even gave you the exhibit number. QUOTE "None if the so called witnesses knew Laci." TRUTH Martha Aguilar: Around 10 a.m. on the morning of December 24, Aguilar saw Laci and McK walking on La Loma Avenue in the same general area that Freitas saw her. She was sure it was Laci. Aguilar lived 2 blocks south of Laci on Covena and they went to the same doctor. Aguilar’s call to the MPD tipline was never returned. She was never interviewed by anyone from MPD or from the DA’s office. QUOTE "They also claim to have seen her in an area where she was never known to walk." TRUTH Grogan indicates that sightings outside of the park were discounted because Laci was planning to walk in the park. This is blatantly false and Grogan knew it. Grogan had been present on December 26 when Chris Boyer interviewed Scott Peterson at his home. Scott clearly stated that Laci sometimes walked in the neighborhood. He told Boyer, in Grogan’s presence that Laci had walked on Sunday, December 22, in the neighborhood. -Tabitha K and Patty S both insist Jackie must have been lying because she would have had to fill out a CTR form to withdraw the $10,000. Anyone can look it up and see that a CTR form is not filed for a single transaction of $10,000. "Federal law requires financial institutions to report currency (cash or coin) transactions OVER $10,000 conducted by, or on behalf of, one person, as well as multiple currency transactions that aggregate to be OVER $10,000 in a single day. These transactions are reported on Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs)."
@@hallejohn7063the evidence is overwhelming. You just choose to ignore it. You support a proven murderer who killed his wife and unborn child. How shameful
If Mr. I-Want-Bachelorhood-Forever had just stayed with Laci and accepted being a father, he would have had Laci's mother and stepfather as constant babysitters and be a millionaire! Laci stood to inherit millions of dollars from her grandfather's estate. This stupid man had everything - and he threw it away! Connor would be 20 years old today.
That's not how guys like this operate: the people in their lives are just Weebles, playthings. Once they have outlived their usefulness and/or shiny qualities (Laci's focus from fawning wife to all-encompassing motherhood and a third person coming along), Scott wanted to throw this set of Weebles away and start over. The only way these people know how to do this is to kill. Besides, even grandparents get tired of kids, and don't want them 24/7.
Terrible. I am firmly convinced that when I was younger I dated someone who was a sociopath who thought along the lines of Scott Peterson. When my gut told me to break it off my father warned me - he said, “I have worked on a naval shipyard with all types of men, and I’m telling you that I know this type. When you leave your house , the gym, the grocery store… you look 360 around you. I don’t care if 3 years have passed, he will come back around.” My father was right , but I knew at that point exactly how to handle the situation. I have since learned the art of self defense and I am legally registered to own a firearm. These types are psychopaths and extremely dangerous.
I think you're on to something. Watts first tried to cause his wife to have a miscarriage. For whatever reason, they were both against the idea of having a son.
@@mizconti Laci's death had noting to do with her pregnancy. It is totally down to the high level of criminality in Modesto, at the time the car theft capital of the US and a city with a horrendous problem with violent home invasion. it was once judged the worst city in the entire US. Out of 100,000 husbands, Kinsey reported about 70,000 would cheat on their wives. Only around 2 per 100,000 would murder them. No connection at all.
He did. Amber Frey was not his only fling. While he was at Cal Poly, he was finishing his last couple to years when he was with a woman by the name of Janet. On one night Janet surprised Scott and Laci in bed together in a house that was shared with some of Scott’s classmates. Janet lost it and had to be dragged from the house kicking and screaming and was driven home by one of the roommates who told her no one knew Scott was married and Laci had shown up. This was told to Laci’s mother.
Why in the world do men like this Petersen human, get married in the first place? It's obvious he didn't like being married or never heard of the word vasectomy. He is a very very scary person. He did think he was special, he appears like a little chubby baby when he was married to Laci. After she was gone he appears so hard core, cruel, detached from what was going on around him. Evil dark eyes, scary, frightening looking. He is right where he belongs prison for life.
It’s the socially acceptable way to present oneself. Scott programmed his life photo to be acceptable to parents, bosses & friends. It was important for Scott to be liked & accepted, always.
He did it. All of the eyewitnesses who saw Laci were debunked based on their descriptions of what she wore / where she was located. Nothing added up. Scott also told everyone he was going golfing that morning but had prepaid for his boat to be launched in the Bay. Why lie? Also, why did he come in, see the dog on its leash in the backyard, his wife’s car in the driveway and then take off his clothes, wash them, shower, eat pizza before realizing something was wrong??? HE DIDNT call the cops, her stepfather did. He should have been the first to alert police. Lastly, his boat was a fresh water boat. Why take it into the salt water bay? It would ruin the engine. And all of the fishing gear he had was designed for fresh water fishing. He’s a lying POS who deserved the death penalty. There may not have been a smoking gun but the affair, his lies, and his sloppiness is what got him and he is in the right place. RIP Connor and Laci. It breaks my heart when people call Connor a fetus. He was a viable full term baby and he deserves to be here now! Also her cervix and how it was examined in her autopsy proves that Connor was not cut out of her body. He was expelled due to decomposition. He is guilty as sin.
@@johndolph131 debunked: to expose or excoriate (a claim, assertion, sentiment etc.) as being pretentious, false or exaggerated. They were all followed up on, there was a map made of each person’s account and it didn’t add up.
Then why are there literally documentaries, with witnesses who state they saw laci walking her dog after the fact who have come forward to authorities but were never followed up with? 🧐
it didn’t add up bc the police department was in such shambles with the crime going on was desperate to solve this case with all the scrutiny around it they had tunnel vision. They did a shotty job and they have the wrong guy. I 100% used to this it was him until i actually researched the case unlike majority of people commenting on here…
Everything about this case was horrible.. its the smiling and the joy in his voice on those calls while Lacy was missing .. that is all the evidence anyone needed.
no that’s actually not considered evidence of a murder. It’s evidence he is an asshole and a bad husband which is indisputable. But there is no evidence he murdered her. No physical evidence at all. And there would be.
A treasure trove of incriminating evidence against S Todd and G Pearce existed. information about any investigation of this tip. Lt. Aponte gave a signed statement to defense investigators which said the prisoner had been interviewed by MPD, and that MPD had received a copy of the taped phone conversation. Instead of this information being disclosed during discovery. The only information provided to the defense about his tip was a simple notation on a CD which included 10,000 other tips about the case. -Merlin, the trailing dog owned by Cindee Valentin, trailed Laci's scent to the Gallo Winery in the airport district, on the night of December 26. Not far from the burglars residence. -December 31, a gold Croton watch, identical to Laci’s watch which disappeared the same day she did, was pawned by Deanna Renfro. Highly unlikely this is just a coincidence. It gets better. The families of Deanna Renfro, Steven Todd and the Tenbrinks know one another. -Diane Jackson reported seeing 3 men with a VAN and a SAFE in front of the Medina’s house at 11:40 a.m. on December 24. There is no debating this. The burglary happened the same day Laci disappeared. Both Todd and Pearce pled guilty to burglary charges 12-24-02. They both received reduced sentences. - S Todd would have received 25 years for his third offense. So why did he get 8 years and 8 months, far less than 25 years. Pearce received only 180 days, yet he was another career criminal. -Tom Harshman, who lived in Modesto, was driving with Elizabeth Harshman between 2 and 4 p.m. on the afternoon of December 24. He saw a young pregnant woman being forced into a van. He turned around and went back to the spot hoping to find the van still there and hoping to get more information about the license plate number. But they were gone. 1. He called police (911 MPD) that same day. 2. Tried again December 28. 3. December 28, he also called the Laci tip line twice. His first call on this date was listed incorrectly under the name Harsh and was given Bates Stamp number 14789. The call was given to Detective Holmes. Harsh(man) said that he had called 3 or 4 days earlier on the day that he had seen a pregnant young woman being pushed into a van. There had been a man standing over her as she squatted to urinate with her back up against a chain-link fence. The man was described as 30’s, tall, thin, with ponytail, dirty blonde to gray hair, scrubby looking. When she finished, the woman was shepherded back to the driver’s door of the car, where another man’s arm was seen pulling her into the car. He said the young woman was wearing black pants and a red shirt. He said she had a scared look on her face." 4. Jan 3rd, he went to the Command Post in the park and relayed this to the officer on duty. Over 40,000 pages in the discovery and nothing about this report was in it. 5. February 2003, Harshman’s wife spoke to a relative of hers who lived in New York about the sighting of Laci Peterson near the corner of Scenic and Claus. Mrs. Harshman’s relative shared this story with an NYPD detective. This NYPD detective was so concerned that he contacted the MPD and spoke personally to Detective Grogan on February 14, 2003. What did Grogan do with the information? Nothing at all 6. pre-trial hearings in May of 2004, DA Investigator Kevin Bertalotto noticed the Harshman tip and insisted that Grogan call Tom Harshman and speak to him personally. Grogan did this on May 18, 2004. An audiotape and a transcription of his conversation with Harshman to the defense on May 20, 11 days before the beginning of the trial.
I think she might have suspected he was slipping out on her and questioned him and the got into an argument. It’s also likely that Laci suspected nothing and he caught her off guard and attacked her.👿
@@mrsbluesky8415he told Amber he had loss his wife December 9th a full 2 weeks before Laci went missing !! The evidence is overwhelming against Scott to many things point directly at him !! What sealed it was the bodies washing ashore within 1 mile where Scott was supposedly fishing !!
No. This was not a “heat in the moment” murder. This was clearly and carefully a pre-meditated homicide. It was coldly calculated. He probably either suffocated Laci with a pillow, or strangled her. He may have waited until Laci was asleep to do it. What a creep!
IMO-He killed laci because he felt trapped with the upcoming birth of Connor. He wanted to continue the self serving life he lived outside of his marriage- his freedom would have been challenged by having a newborn baby.
@@Tracy-rf7ri-His Father was cold as well. There is a video where Lee Peterson first meets Laci, then says Oh, she is the huggie type like it was a bad thing.
Basically he did not want to be a father he knew he couldn't afford it and he didn't want to be a father he didn't want the responsibility he knew that if he left he would be stuck paying child support so he tried to make both of them vanish I do believe he's a sociopath
When it first happened, I was talking with a local news reporter behind the scene. It was at that point I decided that he had something to do with it. No decent man drives 80+ miles away (160 miles RT) and leaves an 8 mos pregnant wife at home alone on Christmas Eve. That, in an of itself proved it to me (and most people). Years later, I watched a Netflix documentary about the trial and a noticed that someone in my extended social group had been on the jury. When I asked him about the "verdict" his response was that "we wanted to make a statement that killing your wife was illegal in California." For me, have Mark Geregos as his defense council was also proof of his guilt. Geregos only defends guilty clients. Scott deserves to rot in hell for eternity.
She had a month and a half to go before her delivery date. He had left her alone every work day before that as he went on his selling trips to farms all over the area. And if he HAD told Laci about Frey as he claimed, she may well have wanted him out of the house for the day. There are American men who travel into the interior of Canada for a few days fishing which takes a combination of plane trips over an extended time. His actions were totally reasonable.
I totally and unequivcally disagree. No decent man drives from Modesto to the Berkeley Marina on Chirstmas Eve and leaves his heavily pregnant wife behind. @@NoSpam1891
@@NoSpam1891 I have to agree. She may have felt fine and her family were a phone call away if she needed help. He had a job that had him away from home at least part of the time. So that he went to do an activity at that stage of pregnancy doesn't surprise me; plus it was during the day; she supposedly wasn't going to be alone on Christmas eve evening. I also think it is possible that he told Laci about Amber Frey; and it could have been presented simply as a physical outlet for him (whether Laci liked it or not.) Laci stayed with him after she found out he cheated before (when they were living separately.) Still, there is something extremely odd about Scott Peterson; he seemed removed from the idea that his plan (if there were one) might fail. He strikes me as being very stupid, but was he? Or was he just "even if I am suspected, no one can prove anything" which is more arrogance rather than stupidity. I think his friends from his high school to college to early employment days could have shed light on his personality and values; yet I have read and seen and heard very little of that.
@@ellecee453 People who went to school with him said he was very smart. ISTM that for longer than many people he held on to the idea that something weird had happened and Laci would be ok and it would be a story they would tell their kids about how mommy scared the hell out of daddy. When he realized it was much worse he flipped and totally dedicated himself to the search. There's a long list of things he did to find Laci. He could have faked being innocent but didn't try. He did try to keep Frey a secret because he correctly surmised that exposing that would end any searching. He was right, even Laci's mother abandoned her. She could have survived into February - we don't know because the MPD weren't interested and said so.
I think it was about the baby too, but not the lack of attention on himself. He was used to that, that’s why he had affairs. They were tight with money and a baby would have placed more stress on their financial situation. He couldn’t afford to divorce her, he couldn’t afford a baby. It was all about the money for this psycho. He is exactly where he should be, in prison.
It's so odd they were strapped for money when they sold a biz profitably, both worked at decent-paying jobs, had inheritances and family money on both sides. They definitely bought more than a starter home with a pool and hot tub and apent money like water on unnecessary renos while entertaining like there was no limit ; stress if their own making.
Appeal page. "Special Agent Doug Mansfield testified that it appeared to him that Scott and Laci were living within their means. Laci's brother, Brent Rocha testified that Laci was frugal and careful with money and that Scott was handy and had done many of their home improvements himself. Brent testified that with regards to the Rocha family finances, there was no financial motive for Scott to do anything to Laci or Conner. Laci was to inherit $160,000+ from the sale of her grandparent's home. Laci would have received this money after her grandfather died and when she reached the age of 30. (Laci's grandfather was moved into a skilled nursing facility in the fall of 2002 and died in December 2003.) There was another Rocha family trust valued at over $2,400,000. Laci and her two siblings would have eventually inherited half of that estate. Scott would inherit none of this money if Laci were dead. Scott and Laci's financial planner, Brian Ullrich testified that Scott was funding a retirement plan. Tradecorp accountant, Jeffrey Coleman testified that Scott received a raise in January of 2003. Modesto City Auditor, Gary Nienhius testified on direct examination that Scott and Laci's debt ratio had increased from 2001 to 2002. Upon cross examination by defense attorneys it was revealed that he had not been given Laci's 2002 income (over $6000) for his calculations and that this income would have made a difference in his calculations. Nienhius also testified on cross examination that Scott and Laci's credit report showed "paid" and "never late" on all accounts. They had multiple credit lines available to them with zero balances. He testified that Scott paid the premium for Laci's medical insurance on December 23rd, the day before she went missing. Scott and Laci were also making additional principal payments on their mortgage."
I've always thought he either strangled her or held her down in the swimming pool and drowned her. He is beyond guilty. He told Amber it would be his first Christmas without his wife weeks before she went missing!
Actually 2 other pregnant women were adducted and murdered in an 8 month time frame before Laci. Also the testimony of the date the neighbors reporting their break-in at their home was wrongfully entered into evidence. The police then threatened the neighbor to make the date same as there's ( because it was a white van seen in the neighborhood) Scott was convicted, but let's be honest The police had tunnel vision, they were biased and refused to look elsewhere. The judge was biased, the jury was biased ( grounds for an appeal) no matter what your opinion of this case? This is not how the justice system is supposed to work. You need evidence for a death sentence trial, not gut feelings.
@@LaurenKaminskihe was convicted of it, but people are allowed to continue to research the case, and come to different conclusions. Like this channel, what a joke, he just tells you want you want to hear. No one wants to hear we put a man on death row because he's a selfish bastard. You can have your opinion, I will have mine ,lazy police investigation, biased judge, white trash jurors who should have been thrown off the case, talking to you " strawberry shortcake" who later wrotr a book. So have your opinion, and I will have mine.
He had a wandering eye….other body part too. He liked playing around. Laci apparently knew some of this and they argued. Then the pregnancy. He didn’t want to be married and tied down with a baby…..maybe eventually more children. Divorce was not an option now, ex-wife and baby would take too big a chunk of his cash. Also, he was the golden boy, so being divorced would be a scar on his perfection. The easy, clean solution is just get rid of Laci and the pregnancy, before the baby is born. He’d be the poor widower, not that bad cheating husband who abandoned a good wife and infant son. His reputation, his image was more important to him than their lives. He never planned on being caught. I never thought he was handsome, he has a silly face and smile.
And why this dude ain't swinging from the hangmans noose baffles me. Rotten too the core , rich by working-class standards and lying his ass off on tv , sickening. We live in the area the body's were found , even here this crime stands out as one of the worst in memory.
I would have lost my shit had he been found not guilty. I was pregnant at same time as Lacey. My son just turned 20. I took this case personal. It made me get away from an volatile relationship. Couldn’t imagine what she went through and my heart breaks for them both
@crystalrusmisel1832 my daughter is also 20, and my due date was the same date as Laci’s in Feb, but I was induced in Jan. So crazy! I often wonder what Laci and Conner would be doing today and if she would have eventually found out about the affair and left him?
@@shall4201 Yes. It also proves that Dr March was correct and Gregory DeVore was wrong, 3 out of 3 as he and the prosecution admitted. Conner and Laci were alive after Dec 24th.
Why would he be found not guilty? He was obviously lying, and evidence showed he was making cement anchors in his garage, while his dead wife and baby washed up on shore at the same place he was fishing the day she went missing. He had no shot at beating this lmao.
I think he was trying to manage his facade as the perfect guy. Can’t do that if you’re divorced. He probably didn’t want to share attention with his son but it’s easier to kill the wife that ties you down than an infant; even for a sociopath. Shame on his family for refusing to see what he is.
@@kingrama2727only because his legal team threatened a riot. They race baited. It’s sad because remember when O.J said he wasn’t black? Remember when O.J moved as far as he could from the black community? LOL
All the signs were there that he never wanted to be a father and with his constant cheating Laci believed a baby would settle him or at least give her a child to love. She didn't want to hear that he wasn't interested in having a family. I think Connors near entrance into this world snapped him. Laci would still be alive if she didn't get pregnant and Scott would have just kept cheating on her until she either accepted it or divorced him.
People are getting more aware than ever about narcissism, the double life they live and the extent of what they are able to do behind the scene. It's about time.
No kidding. I mean many may wonder why so much attention was given to this murder but it just was the absolute worst possible scenario for what appeared to be “the perfect family”. Of course nobody is perfect BUT they were attractive, college educated, homeowners, children of two families involved heavily. Country members. Professionals.
It’s a wake up call to NOT assume what the outside shows IS what’s the real truth. often times when I’m around people that seems so perfect, those are the people I’m most concerned about.
Poor Laci, married the man she loved, and he shows no emotion when she is murdered and shagged his way round any willing woman. It’s not rocket science is it??
I remember an interview many years ago with Laci's friends....they mentioned that they would have "SOPRANO's" parties where everyone would come over, eat and watch the current episode of The Soprano's. They I realized, there's an episode where the character "BIG PUSSY" was taken out on a boat, where he was shot and rolled in a tarp and weighed down with chains. He was then thrown into the ocean. To this day, in my opinion, I think this was a helpful idea to Scott when he had to dispose of Laci's body.
@@rubytuesday9881It's doubtful that commenter killed someone, however that's a very legitimate and interesting post about Scott and Laci watching that show. Murderers often get their ideas from books and TV shows.
I disagree with it being solely about, "his unborn son, 'Connor'." I think he was "tired of Laci and his marriage to her too." He was a "serial cheater." Why do men cheat? They want to "escape" their relationship for one reason or another and it has to do with the relationship they have with their spouse. He's surely "no golden boy?" What an unmotivated/unhappy guy . . . He wasn't "highly successful" in life; he was a fertilizer salesman. No offense to ANYONE; but, he wasn't a doctor, surgeon, lawyer, multi billionaire . . . His parent's view of their son in disgustingly inaccurate . . . He is a real lousy liar, not a clever criminal and an obvious murderer. DELUSIONAL . . .
Narcissism is what most likely happened. But my best guess is she was the lighter fluid which struck his match. He probably felt like she was controlling too much of his life's plan and he got tired of it. A narcissist is only violent towards those close to them, never the public. His decision was pure "You're not going to do this anymore to me". Some people find finality in death instead of a divorce. Why? They're narcissists.
Except that Scott Peterson is in fact innocent while Chris Watts confessed to the murders of of his wife and two daughters and led investigators to their bodies.
@@steverouse1976 lol c'mon man! He slipped up and admitted to fishing in the same lake, 90 miles away from Modesto, mind you, that they found her decomposing body in. How in the heck does a coincidence like that happen! It's so obvious he's guilty, but I respect your position on this. I know others who also think he's innocent. I guess even I have to give him the "benefit of the doubt" even despite the overwhelming amount of evidence that proves his guilt 🤷♂️
I can’t believe how some people can mess up a seemingly idyllic life situation only to REALLY mess it up and throw it away. A more recent example is Alex Murdoch.
Only difference is alex was proven to be the murderer, while scott has no hard evidence proving him to be a murderer, the only evidence against scott is that he is a cheater
@@sophie8394 his son was doing a video minutes before his death that clearly had alex in the back ground yelling at the dog bubba, for having a chicken in his mouth, and then alex lie and say he was never down at the kennels, and then changed his story after the video came out in court
@@sophie8394 also telling his mothers caregiver to lie for him and say he was visiting his mother for over a hour but in reality he was only there for 20 min
@@caliSmoke209 have you heard any of Scott's lies? He was also at the spot his wife and son's dead bodies washed up. If you think there's more evidence against Alex Murdaugh than Scott Peterson, you know nothing about this case.
I agree, Scott wanted to get rid of, Connor. Money & taking all attention away from him were both reasons. God knows what grief, Lacy put up with from, Scott. I think she loved him too much & accepted poor treatment from him. God rest Lacy & Connors Souls.🕯💔🙏
This is the most concise and clear restatement of this case I've seen so far. Great job. And it indeed may be true that it was mostly about Connor. There is some indication that Laci was ill during the pregnancy because Scott was poisoning her in order to induce a miscarriage. (After all, he had access to many chemicals due to his work in the fertilizer industry.) It didn't work, and Scott had boxed himself into so many corners that he felt he needed to kill them both before the delivery of the baby. It may be that had he been successful in causing Laci to lose the baby, he would not have felt the need to resort to killing her, too. However, to work oneself into enough of a rage to kill your loving, innocent wife with your own bare hands, and at Christmas, too, HAS to imply a certain amount of at least hidden violent hatred of the victim, whether or not it's defined as sociopathy.
Wow, that’s interesting, and I bet he worried that he had caused some developmental problems in Connor. All the more pressure for someone like him to do away with the pregnancy.
He wanted to get rid of his Wife. And by extension, the baby inside of her. He would've eventually killed her, and I guarantee there was long-term abuse that we don't know about (because she is dead). Killing them was just the next step in his calculated plan for "freedom".
My opinion is he didn't love Laci and didn't want to be a father. There is Chris Watts (devil man) and Scott both were having affairs and killed their wife I believe by strangulation, pure evil.
Brent Rocha confirmed that Scott did indeed plan to have a family, and was quite emotional about becoming a father: Mark Geragos: And also fair to say that she was very excited about the kid? Brent Rocha: Yes. Mark Geragos: Okay. And Scott was as well? Brent Rocha: Yes. Mark Geragos: When he talked about, when you talked to him, he would express the fact that he's, I mean he's a goal-oriented person; you heard that description earlier today. You would agreed with that, right? Brent Rocha: Yes. Mark Geragos: And is, one of his goals was to have a child and a family? Brent Rocha: Yes. Mark Geragos: Okay. And he told you that he was thinking about what kind of father he was going to be and he was crying and he said he was going to be great; isn't that what he told you? Brent Rocha: That's what he was saying. Sharon Rocha confirmed, on Larry King Live, that Laci told her Scott had changed his mind about having a baby shortly after they moved to Covena in October 2002: ROCHA: “that's when she told me that Scott had said that he didn't think he wanted to have children. Of course that concerned me because we'd had conversations before in his presence or they had had conversations in my presence about having children. KING: So then it shocked you? ROCHA: It did. It really surprised me. KING: But then she got pregnant. ROCHA: Well, then she went on to say that not only did she -- that he didn't think he wanted to have children, she also said that he didn't want to. So, I was -- I was really upset about that knowing that he knew how she felt about having children. And then it was about a month or so later, it was around Thanksgiving time she and I were in the kitchen preparing dinner when she told me that she's going to stop taking birth control pills in December. Well, that surprised me because it had only been a month ago that Scott didn't want to have children. So, we had a conversation about that and I said, "Are you sure? Are both of you absolutely sure because you can't put the baby back once he's here"? Well, it was an it at that time. It was nothing at that time. And she said, yes, that they had talked about it and they were ready that Scott was ready also. Greg Reed gave testimony about Scott's and Laci's relationship, and Scott's participation in Laci's pregnancy. HARRIS: You also, Kristen, your wife, became friends with Laci, is that fair? REED: All four of us met at the same time. HARRIS: And they became friends separate of you and Scott? Kristen and Laci became friends? REED: Yes, they did. HARRIS: And at some point you and your wife began a Lamaze class at your home, is that correct? REED: That is correct. HARRIS: And you asked Scott and Laci if they would like to join in the Lamaze class? REED: That is correct. HARRIS: And they agreed to do that, right? REED: Yes. HARRIS: Okay. During about a one month period, they came to your house on a weekly basis to participate in the Lamaze classes, is that right? REED: That's probably about right. About once a week. HARRIS: You got a chance to see them interact quite a bit during that, didn't you? REED: Yes. HARRIS: And your impression, from telling the police, your impression was that they were a very happy couple? REED: Yes. HARRIS: And, in fact, you told the police Scott treated her very, very well? REED: Yes. HARRIS: They both, I believe your quote to the police was they were both very excited about the baby coming, is that right? REED: That's what it appeared, yes. HARRIS: And you were called in an interview you did with the police, excuse me. Let me take that back. Do you recall an incident at one point where you were looking through a catalog called Cabella's catalog? REED: Yes, I remember that. HARRIS: What is the Cabella's catalog? REED: It's a hunting, fishing, outdoors-type of magazine. And equipment. HARRIS: And they actually sell kids' camouflage outfits, is that right? REED: In that magazine they were. HARRIS: In that particular one? REED: Yes. HARRIS: During that time you were looking at it, both you and Scott were going through the, the kids' section or the kids' outfits, hunting and fishing, or whatever outfits, and the two of you were talking and laughing about how much you couldn't wait to buy your kids those kind of outfits, is that correct? REED: I remember that clearly, that's correct. HARRIS: Okay. Scott was very excited about that possibility, wasn't he? REED: Yes.
Strangulation leaves forensic evidence. Every test done was negative. Cadaver dogs did not hit in any alleged crime scene, and yes, cadaver dogs can detect human decomposition shortly after death.
I watched another documentary about this, and the police believed deep down that Laci was already dead from the beginning. Also, the first responding officers deserve praise for trusting their gut instincts and telling their suspicions to their watch commander
I was 20 in 2002,and when I heard this I was so heartbroken..People that said hes guilty ,with all the bullshit thats been proven(he even smiles like this as nothing) He doesnt deserve to live.....
It takes two to tango when a woman gets pregnant by a man their lives change completely and he was not willing to be responsible for a child that is called being a coward
Scott off-ed Laci on Christmas Eve. I'm convinced that Scott got an idea how to off Laci from the Jonbenet Ramsey case of 1996. Jon Benet was off-ed during Christmas. The police were lacking personnel during the Christmas and, therefore, never did a good investigation. Alan Dershowitz was interviewed about the Jonbenet Ramsey case on TV. Dershowitz said, "I know this is terrible to say, but if you want to commit m u r d e r and get away with it, do it on a holiday." I think Scott saw that interview and got inspired.
I'm never understand why husbands or wives never think they'll get caught when they're the first on the police when a spouse is murdered who would want to sit in a hot jail cell for the rest of their lives I'll never understand it never
Completely agree with you. The chances of getting away with killing your spouse are about as good as winning the lottery. And now with cameras everywhere and advanced DNA technology it’s almost impossible.
His cold unconcerned attitude indicates he is a psychopath . Sends cold chills down your back . Probably would do it again to the next person if he had the possibility!. Just as well he is behind bars .
I'll never understand murder as an option instead of divorce. I guess he was only concerned with how those outcomes would affect him and his reputation. He chose poorly.
Some have speculated he got Laci in a hot tub saying she was having back pain because of the pregnancy and in the hot tub held her underwater and drowned her. At that far along pregnant she would have been no match for his strength to fight him.
I’ve always thought he smothered he while she slept (Possibly drugged). He’s always struck me as too much of a coward to engage in a struggle.. even with a heavily pregnant tiny woman. Putting a pillow (or something else) over a sleeping person’s face seems more in keeping with his detached narcissistic personality.
I absolutely agree that he killed Laci to get rid of the baby. I am not sure that it had to do with being the center of attention. I think it had to do with the life long responsibility that coming with a child. It would have hindered his lifestyle & ability to maintain his "golden boy" appearance. He may have tried to cause Lace to have a miscarriage and once she was far enough along for the baby to survive even if delivered prematurely, he killed them both.
I will never understand how a serial cheater could justify sociopath or not murdering his wife and unborn child, how can anyone even consider that? The other question I always had was the money. He had 15k in the car with him when arrested and 2K in the bank the day Lacy was murdered. Was his family giving him cash?
Actually, it was his parents who were giving him money. His mother tried to explain the reason that she gave Scott the money was because she had accidentally removed the money from his account and she was giving it back to him. Very lame excuse and the jury saw through it immediately.
*IF IT WERE SOLELY ABOUT THE BABY, PETERSON WOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE BIRTH* Instead, Peterson wanted both of them gone. In my opinion, his pathology and actions clearly demonstrate a psychotic who wanted complete freedom to be whomever he wanted to be with multiple women. Peterson's _type of pathology_ does not want to be committed as it relates to being a responsible and accountable individual. _"Obviously, Peterson harbored a deep disdain towards his wife and lack any emotional connection towards his unborn child for that he dumped _in-utero_ without difficulty."_ Even till this day, Peterson's psychopathic malignant narcissistic nature will not allow him to come-clean and deal with the consequences. Hence, the reason for jurors to make the decision for individuals who commit heinous crimes.
So you’re basically saying they didn’t prove it 100% but i kinda think he did it. You think he might have had help but you’re not really sure. So you think someone should just sit in jail for life bc your sorta mb think he did it but it wasn’t really proven?
@@johndolph131 So I don’t think he did it himself, he doesn’t look like the type to get his hands dirty. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t get someone else to do it for him. Also I said circumstantial evidence, you know like using past tense when talking about his wife before her body was found. Or how about telling his girlfriend this would be the first Christmas without his wife, and then she mysteriously just disappeared. And wouldn’t you know it she winds up dead. I think the jurors at his trail were unprofessional, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t belong in prison.
Guys will say anything to get laid, if he told another girl he “lost” his wife he’s pulling on the emotional strings to get her to feel sorry for him so he could get laid. Cheating doesn’t equal murder. I don’t believe he hired someone bc there would need to be communication with someone consistently and they didn’t find that or large payments leaving the bank account. If scott did it they never proved beyond reasonable doubt it was him therefore by the state of the law i couldn’t convict him…
@@johndolph131 True, but it wasn’t just the cheating. It was all of the other stuff that I mentioned in the previous comment. That and his lying went above and beyond. He was at a vigil for his wife pretending to be in Paris. I know people grieve in different ways, but I’m sorry that’s weird to me. If I “lost” my wife I’d go to the ends of earth to find her. But I guess you don’t have to do that when you already know where they are. He’s in prison because everything they did have kept coming back to him. He was the only person they couldn’t clear.
everything you’re saying literally doesn’t equal murder, it makes him look like a lousy husband. Nothing you’re saying is concrete evidence that goes yes that proved he 100% killer her. All you’re proving to me with what you’re saying is he is 100% a bad husband… where’s the blood, the motive (real motive not just guess), where’s the crime scene?, how did he do it?, you really think he dumped a dead body in broad day light in the marina???
He wasn't convicted because he had an affair he was convicted because he was so arrogant that he couldn't stop himself from behaving like he KNEW his wife and child were already dead and no one could be that certain except the person that killed her.
does it scream guilty? If you were in his shoes and innocent and the media and everyone is saying you did it but you didn’t what would you do. Would you just sit around and wait to get arrested bc that’s what it 100% looks like is going to happen. You can have your opinion that he did it that’s fine, but if you were innocent and being blasted by the media as a murderer but you really didn’t do it, what would you do just curious? No matter what scott does/did people thought he was guilty. if he didn’t try running he was 100% guilty if he does try running he’s 100% guilty. What would you do?
@@sophie8394 Nope. Just pointing out that he was headed north and not fleeing to anywhere other than a golf course. And if the original poster doesn’t respond to me, I’m not going to leave him/her a bunch of 🦗 emojis either.
This channel should do a video about Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald, the Princeton-educated former U.S. Army Green Beret who was accused of stabbing to death his pregnant wife and and two young daughters in 1970.
@@michaelproctor8100 apparently it must be evidence they never gave at trial?? Evidence not in public records is what kind of evidence? And he only won a new sentencing trial, not a new criminal trial. To which I should add, due to the conduct of the jurors he was certainly entitled too.
@@cannpdx781 The following is from Bugliosi's 1996 book Outrage: I telephoned the federal prosecutor handling the case in North Carolina and asked what he had against MacDonald. The prosecutor would not say very much, but did mention a few pieces of evidence to me, one of which was that fibers from MacDonald's blue pajamas had been found embedded beneath the fingernails of his two-and-a-half-year- old daughter. That invoked in my mind the horrifying scene of a little girl crying out, "Daddy, Daddy, no" as she reached out and struggled against her father while he stabbed her to death. That was enough for me. I wanted nothing to do with the case.
What I will never forget is how calm, cool and collected he was throughout handling his missing wife and throughout the trial. His demeanor was unusual considering the stress level. It indicated to me that he was wired differently. I do not think he killed his wife simply because of the baby. I think he wanted an easy way out of the whole situation, and he didn’t want any financial responsibility.
I can see the imprint on the comforter across the bottom of the bed with no other sliding mark, as if what was on it was lifted off not like someone got up & off the bed themselves changing the imprint.
It’s not that people think he’s innocent, it’s that the trial wasn’t fair. If he is tried again he will no doubt be found guilty. We must have fair trials no matter how much we believe a person is guilty.
I’ll never forget the recording when he was on the phone with Amber telling her he was having a great time in Paris when instead he was at a vigil for Laci. Such a disgusting man. I also really applaud Amber for her role in working with the authorities and speaking out publicly.
I believe Amber was an innocent bystander to all of this. She probably felt terrible for a long time over this. She may have felt guilty for years.
@@terryKessler42719 - Amber was just a young, single woman looking for a meaningful relationship. I felt very badly for her. He was playing her too.
He truly is a disgusting psychopath
Who knows ? Amber could of know all of this Scott & amber could’ve set it all up and she played dumb to get off any charges don’t believe everything you see tv/ social media
@@evns700 - You make zero sense.
I will never get over that picture of Laci and her beautiful smile attending a Christmas party alone while Scott was at a different Christmas party with Amber. He is an evil man.
Well she had precious Connor 🍼
But yeah, I get what you mean.
I have a little baby girl right now, and I never considered myself alone when I was pregnant with her 👶🏻💗
Omg that' what those 2 photos were !! 😢 😮
It makes sense now and it's so disgusting
Laci put on blinders and was determined to have that baby. She may have harbored doubts about her marriage but could not have imagined he would snuff her out at their very home. I find this story a true horror story! Scott was empty inside, a narcissist and psychopath, that, like Chris Watts, went after the next shiny object, proving only that these sick individuals think they can outsmart others, leaving lives in ruins and tragedy in their wake.
You all need to learn to think for yourselves. You, like everyone else, has no evidence he committed any crime.
@@scottmattern482 Okay Scott...........
Wow I just realized just how similar Scott Peterson & Chris Watts are. They were both the youngest, "star" child, spoiled & overly praised growing up, quiet & rarely showed emotion, were having affairs, & both killed their pregnant wives while having financial troubles. Crazy.
They both fit the description of exactly the kind of guy that commits familicide.
Spot on totally
@@lamiya900 That was a really horrible case.
And both killers had narcissistic, ruthless mothers with questionable parenting methods.
For real. Scott walked so Chris could run
He did not need the press to label him a bad person, he did that himself.☠
He did everything he could do to make himself a suspect
@@thomasbranham4374right! He may as well have worn a neon sign saying, "I did it!"
Who else would kill a pregnant woman? Scott is so guilty. Conner would have been 7 days younger than my grandson. I have driven by that house a couple of times. I lived about 2 miles away when this happened.
@@SusanGK1
-Conner (baby) was determined to be alive until Jan 3rd by both the States expert and the Medical examiner? Furthermore, Dr Charles March testified there is no way that Scott and Laci Peterson's unborn baby could have died any earlier than Dec. 29, 2002. Dr Allison Galloway determined the baby could have even been alive as far along as Jan 14th. So how is he guilty if Laci was alive after the 24th?
-How did Conners body end above the water break and high tide line if he was in the ocean?
-How did his left ear get permanently flattened against his head and a rectangular piece of material was over it?
-Why was their no animal feeding on Conner whatsoever?
- How did plastic wrap get knotted around his neck that had to be cut off, not far from a plastic bag which was never tested? Dr. Cyril Wecht, who examined Conner's body but who did not testify, told Greta van Susteren that Conner's head measured 28 cm circumference and his neck measured 20 cm (On the Record, October 27, 2004). 28 cm = 11.02360 inches; 20 cm = 7.87400 inches. He confirmed the measurements in another interview with Fox News, and expressed his disbelief that the twine accidentally wrapped around Conner's neck. He also conjectured about the baby being in a bag.
-Why was Laci's uterus was at least 10 cm (3.9") smaller than it should have been? Certainly explains why the incision to remove Conner was not visible on her body, and the injured 9th rib, postmortem injury is in the same location where such an incision would have been made.
-Why did police ignore evidence, tips and sightings that points in a completely different direction?
Isn't it standard police practice to track down a missing person's last known whereabouts? It's not like they didn't have credible eyewitnesses that seen her walking on the 24th. Some called multiple times. Police ignored them. Sounds like tunnel vision and incompetence led to her death since the science proves she was alive after that day.
- Why was there no cadaver scent if Laci had been dead in the boat, warehouse, truck or home?
Explain please be exact
I think he never loved Laci, never wanted a child, never wanted to be a family man and in the end he was just another sociopath who thought he could get away with murder
And the sad thing is he stayed in a relationship that he did not want. Why get married if you don't really want the relationship?
I think being with Amber blew his mind sexually. That mighty powerful V rocked his world that he went and done an evil thing. Not Amber’s fault. Careful guys.
He didn’t want a baby. That’s why they waited 4 years to try to have a baby.
@@jessiewong-q3bThe video said that they had fertility problems. If he did not want children he should have gotten a vasectomy.
I don't think Scott loved Laci any longer, or maybe he never did. I believe Scott wanted to get rid of Laci and Connor, not just Connor. He wanted to be free, but he also didn't want to pay alimony to Laci and child support for Connor. This is an extremely sad story for Laci, Connor, and Laci's family and friends. Let Scott rot in prison!!
Scott loved Scott.
I agree!!
Or maybe it was because laci caught the people burglarizing the house across the street and confronted them. I would bet my life scott had nothing to do with this murder
@@caliSmoke209you'd lose.
sophie and videofanatics both think OJ is innocent 🤣🤣
All he had to do is divorce her and sign his rights away. This case has always made me so sad
But doesn't the wife have to allow him to sign his rights away? I thought if a woman wanted child support she could force him to pay?
He'd lose half the house etc
"...sign his rights away". LOL As if that were possible. There isn't a woman alive that would give up free child extortion payments for 20 years and the opportunity to "get even" with the man that doesn't want her anymore. Ask yourself..... why is it that a woman can 'drop off" unwanted babies at a "safe haven" location, but if a man were to try that, he'd be in handcuffs and charged with all manner of felonies tout de suite?
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I don’t think it was just about the baby, it was about wanting to be free of both of them and her family and the financial responsibility that was cutting into his playboy ways.
@ams14691 I believe the exact same thing you do. Can you imagine a man, not only killing his wife, but his unborn son as well. There is definitely something mentally wrong with Scott Peterson for doing this. He's a psychopath at the least!
Or maybe it was about laci catching the burglars in action and confronting them, thats what got her killed. Had nothing to do with scott at all
@@caliSmoke209😂😂😂😂😂
Sophie and videofanatics think OJ is innocent 🤣🤣
sophie and videofanatics scissor on the reg 🤣🤣
He killed her. He planned it. He bought the boat to accomplish the deed.
And the best part is that it was a FRESHWATER boat. So if it was in salt water the engine would corrode. Add that to the freshwater tackle he had on him … what a joke
@Siyanibingelela It's an aluminum boat, genius. Aluminum boats are great in salt water. Outboards are also designed for fresh water and salt water. Brocchini testified that Scott had, in the boat, 2 fishing rods and a small tackle box which contained old fishing jigs and lures. The boat came equipped with a fish finder and a small trolling motor. So, Scott had everything with him necessary to troll fish, which is what he said he was doing.
He had forgotten some new lures in truck. The main reason he took the boat out was try out.
Brocchini: Did you buy bait?
Scott: Nope, I'm not a bait fisherman.
Brocchini: Did you troll?
Scott: Little bit. I mean a lot of, lot of the reason I went was just to get that boat in the water to see, you know ---
Stop running around spreading lies.
Harshman Grogan testimony
GERAGOS: And they have witnessed the incident, and don't know if they have called Modesto PD yet or not, correct?
GROGAN: Correct.
GERAGOS: Okay.
JUDGE: Does he say what time of the day that was?
GERAGOS: This was at 10:08?
GROGAN: That would be 10:08 a.m.
GERAGOS: So, at this point, Mr. Harshman has called on the 28th at 6:50 said he saw a woman being forced into a van, gave a description of the van. Then approximately two months later a New York City police detective says, I have talked to, presumably, Harshman's wife who may have witnessed the incident, correct?
GROGAN: Yes. He got the information from a friend of Miss Harshman's, Mr. Harshman's wife, I believe.
GERAGOS: Okay. And specifically you contacted him on May 18th, 2004, correct?
GROGAN: Yes.
GERAGOS: And he, when you contacted him, he told you that the same day he called into the police department. You put it down at 12:28, right?
GROGAN: Yes, based on that tip.
GERAGOS: I don't think you ever saw this. I'm just going to show this to you. When I went through the tip lines, at 14789, it looks like somebody called in, but the name that was written down was Thomas Harsh. Do you see that?
GROGAN: I see it.
GERAGOS: Okay. You hadn't seen that before right now, had you?
GROGAN: No.
GERAGOS: Okay. It says, reporting that three or four days ago he saw a pregnant lady being pushed into a van. Caller given to Detective Holmes. You were not aware that Harsh had indicated that it was three or four days prior to the 28th when he had actually phoned in; isn't that correct?
GROGAN: No, I don't think so.
GERAGOS: Okay. This is the first time that you have seen that, because when the caller, whoever took down the information, they just wrote Harsh as opposed to Harshman, correct?
GROGAN: Correct.
GERAGOS: Okay. And he said that he, specifically, on the same day that he had called in, he had seen a van parked on the south side of Scenic, west of Claus, which he described as a 70s, American-made model, beige in color, correct?
GROGAN: Is that the tip that you are reading from top?
GERAGOS: No. I'm at 4527.
GROGAN: Yes.
@@aok4418 Last word.
@@aok4418 Last word, Scotty boy.
Scott didn't like being tied down. A wife, he could divorce. A baby would have meant 18 years of child support.
That's what I'll never understand it takes 2
He could have been honest with her and told her he didn't want to settle down but he chose to marry and procreate e
With her so I guess he couldn't be honest with anyone not even himself
Murdering her and his own kid is the worst way to get out of it. Just man up dude, you married her and then impregnated her. Why would anyone think it’s ok to take her life and his child’s life because he changed his mind? That’s just so sick. Like there’s people out there that would give anything to marry a girl as beautiful and by all accounts, as loving and nice as her, let alone be able to father a child of their own. So ungrateful and psychotic, ugh. Get a part-time job if the child support is too much to bear, ya bum.
And this is when a woman says “you are free to go. I don’t want anything from you” I bet men who kill their wives is bc the wives fight a separation or divorce. Threatened to take everything away from them. N there’s no way a woman cannot know her man well enough to know what he is capable of doing. Evil doesn’t hide. Eventually you can see the devil. He stares back you. You just need to pay attention and not ignore the signs
What's odd to me is the fact that he actually believed he could get by with it. An evil, stupid man.
Man child!
People with narcissistic traits tend to think they can talk their way out of things. Look how many court cases we’ve seen that in lately. Amber Heard, Sarah Boone, Jessy Kurzewski (sp?), Courtney Clenney, Kouri Richins, Darrell Brooks. They have no self awareness or accountability
How anyone can think he is innocent is beyond me.
I know for a fact he is totally innocent because that's what the evidence said, over and over and over again.
@@NoSpam1891which explains why he's been in prison for nearly 20 years 😂😂😂
There are some pretty dumb people out there.
@@sophie8394 As if no one innocent has ever done prison time? Every year people get released 20, 30 years after being sent to jail because it was discovered that he was innocent all along.
@@diegolara4202 yes, innocent people are wrongfully convicted sometimes.
Scott Peterson isn't one of those people .
The most shocking and disturbing aspect of this story is that over 20 years have already passed since this murder occurred.
Seems like yesterday.
Hardly. You’ve obviously never had a loved one murdered. Time doesn’t pass at all. Stay classy.
@@smc2673 I’m surprised you didn’t start your comment with “as someone that”..like you do every single time you comment about anything on YT from your Moms basement.
Get a life troll.
@@smc2673
stay classy? Lol. It moved quick for Tony, he doesn’t know these people personally. What is wrong with him saying that? Do you think it would offend someone? Don’t worry about it, you’re doin too much.
Seriously? Passage of time is more disturbing than the murders?
Yeah it doesn't work that way. Otherwise all the absentee dads would be doing that.
Yep, Aphrodite is right. He didn’t want the baby and was threatened by it. He even said something to the effect after Laci became pregnant. He told someone in the family that he was hoping for infertility. When someone tells you who they really are, listen.
And this report said there was infertility problems, wonder what that really was about…so sad for a woman who wanted to become a mom and has not the best husband material to be the father 😢 Sadly we see this so much.
So true
But, it is confusing because he still had sex with her and got her pregnant. He stayed in the marriage. He knew she wanted to be a Mom, so why not divorce her? Just strange. His time was running out because she had a doctor's appointment. He was getting pressure from the affair, so he did a terrible thing. So sad.
@@teeahtate I heard Laci knew he cheated on her in college but still refused to see the red flags. We have to stop raising our little girls to be too nice and show them the red flags early on. Show them what boundaries look like and encourage them to have strong boundaries. Show them to respect themselves by not accepting anything less than what they know they deserve. No one deserves to be lied to, to be gaslit and to be manipulated. It does nothing for us women to be obedient to a man. It does nothing for us women to "stand by your man" when we know he lies and cheats on us. If an open marriage is what two people want, then that's fine, at least they are open to honesty with one another, however, we know that most men are double standard and won't allow their women to be with another man, but it's all good when they do it, right? That's not an honest relationship between two people. And that's also a red flag.
He was too immature to be a father. He seemed extremely selfish.
I was pregnant the same time as Laci and I remember feeling so bad about her and her baby. I feel like he did it because he didn’t want the responsibility of being a father. He was probably irritated being a husband and it would only get worse in his eyes. He didn’t want to grow up.
Oh, I am confident he just wanted to sleep with other women or be with Ashley. Chris Watts, the dentist from Utah as well as that other woman that poisoned her husband… countless examples
He should either not have gotten married or discussed the children thing with Laci. Beyond tragic. He was a sick man.
He didn’t wanna grow up is correct. He still hasn’t grown up. What makes me sick besides the death of Laci and Connor is all the money that has been spent for his appeals. And the comment that Scott could have been in a book about the stupidest criminal is so true, the stuff he did was very easy to put him right up there as her murderer. Sad.
He was just a POS never happy! May she RIP🌹
I had just moved to Sacramento, CA when I was home during the day. I watched part of Laci's memorial, and what a sad event, they played "Brown Eyed Girl" and a little boy came up to the podium and told the audience that he missed Laci because she helped him with his homework. Like the Solstice stated, he wanted to be free of Laci and her child. The psychopath that he is not sorry he killed Laci, nor is he sad about what occurred in their home that ended up with Laci being murdered. What is unimaginably horrible is that he is NOT repentant nor will he ever be. I think that Amber was in his crosshairs and would have killed HER also.
Scott Peterson is a monster. Period! It appears Laci was completely enthralled by his looks and could not bear to leave him. She probably thought the baby would “fix “everything.
He shouldn’t have sought treatment for infertility. Do you think the doctor told him he was the reason they couldn’t get pregnant? That would tick him off. How dare they question his manhood. And perhaps Laci mentioned his problem with infertility and that wasn’t a discussion he wanted to have. So evidently he wanted to prove he was a stud by having multiple affairs. What a slimy little guy.
I absolutely agree that Laci was captivated by Scott's looks ignoring the red flags. Sadly, it cost her life being married to a narcissist.
Yep, sounds like it. She gave him her number. I think she really was into him, but maybe he was not that same way with her. It is sad, because he could have just left her alone. Really sad.
And......that never works. It only gets worse. People are what they are, they rarely change.
I think psychopaths do not think like normal people. He had no feelings for Laci nor his unborn son, he was “over” Laci’s usefulness and she probably had a fight with him the night he killed her, he killed her like you’d swat a fly. He thought he’d get away with it. He’s a monster.
He planned it
@@pixels2u Why would he plan on going to the busiest marina to dump a body in boat he has never had in the water before in thr middle of the day? Her body was never duped in the bay. The water is on average 3 - 4 deep.
How did the uterus 'tear' open over time? If so, why was there no animal feeding or any sign Conner was ever in the bay? Should we really believe Conner would make it through the rocks and so far up on to shore. The supposed track was a hazardous journey. Yet the only damage (a 'tear') was supposed to have been made by the police trying to pick it up.
The cut or tear in the uterus makes 'coffin birth' impossible. The only ways in which a baby can be released from the mother is by birth or by C-section. Since testimony was offered that Laci didn't give birth to Conner, then we must assume that someone cut him from her living body.
27 days of searches before the bodies were even discovered.
December 28, 30; Jan 8, 9, 11, 18, 24, 28; Feb 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 20, 21, 23, 26; March 1, 2, 3, 4, 11, 12, 13, 26, 27, 29;
Are we expected to believe miles and miles of waterways and shoreline were patrolled by police. They didn't even cordon off anything during the search days. LOL
Conner could not have washed ashore from any direction under the conditions that existed on April 13. The water level produced by the 5.88 high tide simply did not produce a waterway to carry him to where he was found. And he was beyond the debris line, which means that he was not pushed back to where he was found by the breaking waves.
The SF Medical examine told the lead detective that it would be highly unlikely that 32 lbs would submerge the body. It would just float. He also said the currents would likely take the body out to sea. She was found nearly 4 months later. How do currents flowing Southbound at 4 knots place either body where they were found.
-Conner (baby) was found above the high tide line and water break.
-The baby's left ear was permanently flattened against the head, and a rectangular piece of material was over his ear.
Plastic wrap knotted around his neck that had to be cut off, not far from a plastic bag which was never tested. The criminologist and medical examiner, both concluded that the twine could not have wrapped around Conner’s neck accidentally. Dr. Cyril Wecht noted, "never in a million years."
Laci had a missing neck that is not consistent with any known disarticulation in aqueous environments.
Laci's uterus was at least 10 cm (3.9") smaller than it should have been, explaining why the incision to remove Conner was not visible on her body, and the injured 9th rib, postmortem injury is in the same location where such an
Dr Cheng said there was no explanation for Laci's body being found where it was.
There was no evidence in the truck.
There was no evidence in the boat.
There was no evidence in the home.
Cadaver dogs never found scent where Scott was - the only good scents led away from his locations.
The alleged weight used to submerge (32 lbs) Laci's body should have had the body return to the surface in a few days, yet it was never spotted.
Laci vanishes Dec 24th with a Croton watch the same day as the burglary across the street. A Croton watch was pawned just days later.
Pay no attention to AOK. She's a Peterson minion and gets a shiny nickel for every copy and paste of garbage from the appeal page 😂
@@sophie8394 To quote you
" Mark Geragos is a highly skilled attorney. He didn't use the Aponte tip bc he knew it was bogus. Multi level hearsay. "
You said Laci was found in the same clothes she had worn on the 23rd.
TRUTH
Laci's clothes she had worn that day were identified in the home during the search and identified by Amy Rocha.
GERAGOS: You saw the shoes that you thought she was wearing, I think I said the 18th. All, on the 18th you saw all, the whole outfit, basically, that you thought she was wearing on the 23rd?
ROCHA: Yes.
QUOTE
" there's nothing I haven't reviewed.
I've been reviewing it for more than 10 years. I'm not impressed by RUclips legal experts.
And for the 2nd time. RN did NOT co author a book. The fact you don't even know that tells me everything I need to know about your expertise. "
FACT
RN did co author a book called
'we, the jury'
QUOTE
("Are you aware the boat was never registered")
FACT
The boat WAS registered. The correct information including his name and address was filed with the DMV on 12-9-02.
QUOTE
("Even though Ron already had a boat and a better one at that.... LOL")
FACT
Ron didn't have a boat. He had a float tube.
QUOTE
(...you don't have an explanation for why SP refused to even speak to John Walsh...")
FACT
He did speak to John walsh. Get your facts straight, stalker!
John Walsh: "I talked to Scott on the phone for about 45 minutes and his parents for about an hour," Walsh said in the lobby of the DoubleTree Hotel. "
-You said Scott did not have an anchor rope, FALSE. I even gave you the exhibit number.
QUOTE
"None if the so called witnesses knew Laci."
TRUTH
Martha Aguilar:
Around 10 a.m. on the morning of December 24, Aguilar saw Laci and McK walking on La Loma Avenue in the same general area that Freitas saw her. She was sure it was Laci. Aguilar lived 2 blocks south of Laci on Covena and they went to the same doctor.
Aguilar’s call to the MPD tipline was never returned. She was never interviewed by anyone from MPD or from the DA’s office.
QUOTE
"They also claim to have seen her in an area where she was never known to walk."
TRUTH
Grogan indicates that sightings outside of the park were discounted because Laci was planning to walk in the park. This is blatantly false and Grogan knew it. Grogan had been present on December 26 when Chris Boyer interviewed Scott Peterson at his home. Scott clearly stated that Laci sometimes walked in the neighborhood. He told Boyer, in Grogan’s presence that Laci had walked on Sunday, December 22, in the neighborhood.
-Tabitha K and Patty S both insist Jackie must have been lying because she would have had to fill out a CTR form to withdraw the $10,000. Anyone can look it up and see that a CTR form is not filed for a single transaction of $10,000.
"Federal law requires financial institutions to report currency (cash or coin) transactions OVER $10,000 conducted by, or on behalf of, one person, as well as multiple currency transactions that aggregate to be OVER $10,000 in a single day. These transactions are reported on Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs)."
@@sophie8394 Work on getting something right! 😆
He’s so Guilty he makes me so sick who could say he’s innocent is just stupid
Groupies and trolls.
Show solid evidence he did it until then he did not do it.
@@hallejohn7063the evidence is overwhelming. You just choose to ignore it. You support a proven murderer who killed his wife and unborn child. How shameful
There is no physical evidence, so believing him innocent is not far fetched in any way.
It easier to fool 1000 people than convince 1 person they've been fooled. Fruit for thought
If Mr. I-Want-Bachelorhood-Forever had just stayed with Laci and accepted being a father, he would have had Laci's mother and stepfather as constant babysitters and be a millionaire! Laci stood to inherit millions of dollars from her grandfather's estate. This stupid man had everything - and he threw it away! Connor would be 20 years old today.
That's not how guys like this operate: the people in their lives are just Weebles, playthings. Once they have outlived their usefulness and/or shiny qualities (Laci's focus from fawning wife to all-encompassing motherhood and a third person coming along), Scott wanted to throw this set of Weebles away and start over. The only way these people know how to do this is to kill. Besides, even grandparents get tired of kids, and don't want them 24/7.
I didn't know she came from money. Yeah, that is weird.
Sociopaths are nothing if not impulsive.
It’s all about control with these jerks. He didn’t see her inheritance. He saw his restriction of his free time etc
well, when you think with the weenie....
Terrible. I am firmly convinced that when I was younger I dated someone who was a sociopath who thought along the lines of Scott Peterson. When my gut told me to break it off my father warned me - he said, “I have worked on a naval shipyard with all types of men, and I’m telling you that I know this type. When you leave your house , the gym, the grocery store… you look 360 around you. I don’t care if 3 years have passed, he will come back around.” My father was right , but I knew at that point exactly how to handle the situation. I have since learned the art of self defense and I am legally registered to own a firearm. These types are psychopaths and extremely dangerous.
Scot Peterson reminds me of Chris Watts, although Watts also murdered his two Daughters, wife and unborn Child, he also cheated on his wife.
I think you're on to something. Watts first tried to cause his wife to have a miscarriage. For whatever reason, they were both against the idea of having a son.
They're family annihilators so of course there are similarities.
70% of married men cheat on their wives (Kinsey) so it means nothing.
Certainly parallels. Like Laci, if not for her pregnancy - they may both still be alive. However, we’ll never know.
@@mizconti Laci's death had noting to do with her pregnancy. It is totally down to the high level of criminality in Modesto, at the time the car theft capital of the US and a city with a horrendous problem with violent home invasion. it was once judged the worst city in the entire US. Out of 100,000 husbands, Kinsey reported about 70,000 would cheat on their wives. Only around 2 per 100,000 would murder them. No connection at all.
He could have just kept cheating on her so I believe it was absolutely about the baby
Expensive to raise a kid!
He did. Amber Frey was not his only fling. While he was at Cal Poly, he was finishing his last couple to years when he was with a woman by the name of Janet. On one night Janet surprised Scott and Laci in bed together in a house that was shared with some of Scott’s classmates. Janet lost it and had to be dragged from the house kicking and screaming and was driven home by one of the roommates who told her no one knew Scott was married and Laci had shown up. This was told to Laci’s mother.
Why in the world do men like this Petersen human, get married in the first place? It's obvious he didn't like being married or never heard of the word vasectomy. He is a very very scary person. He did think he was special, he appears like a little chubby baby when he was married to Laci. After she was gone he appears so hard core, cruel, detached from what was going on around him. Evil dark eyes, scary, frightening looking. He is right where he belongs prison for life.
I don’t get it either. People like this hate marriage, but then turn around and get married. I will never understand it.
It’s the socially acceptable way to present oneself. Scott programmed his life photo to be acceptable to parents, bosses & friends. It was important for Scott to be liked & accepted, always.
@@karnerblue7658 right
Who gave him the $15k? His brothers ID? RUNNING FOR THE BORDER?!!? He smiled when being interviewed. This man is just pure evil.
Was 10k, from his mother.
@@LizzyStardust So why wasn't his mother charged with aiding and abetting? She aided him to run off to the border with $10K.
He did it. All of the eyewitnesses who saw Laci were debunked based on their descriptions of what she wore / where she was located. Nothing added up. Scott also told everyone he was going golfing that morning but had prepaid for his boat to be launched in the Bay. Why lie? Also, why did he come in, see the dog on its leash in the backyard, his wife’s car in the driveway and then take off his clothes, wash them, shower, eat pizza before realizing something was wrong??? HE DIDNT call the cops, her stepfather did. He should have been the first to alert police. Lastly, his boat was a fresh water boat. Why take it into the salt water bay? It would ruin the engine. And all of the fishing gear he had was designed for fresh water fishing. He’s a lying POS who deserved the death penalty. There may not have been a smoking gun but the affair, his lies, and his sloppiness is what got him and he is in the right place. RIP Connor and Laci. It breaks my heart when people call Connor a fetus. He was a viable full term baby and he deserves to be here now! Also her cervix and how it was examined in her autopsy proves that Connor was not cut out of her body. He was expelled due to decomposition. He is guilty as sin.
all the people that saw her were debunked? since when did debunked mean not interviewed or followed up with?
@@johndolph131 debunked: to expose or excoriate (a claim, assertion, sentiment etc.) as being pretentious, false or exaggerated. They were all followed up on, there was a map made of each person’s account and it didn’t add up.
Then why are there literally documentaries, with witnesses who state they saw laci walking her dog after the fact who have come forward to authorities but were never followed up with? 🧐
it didn’t add up bc the police department was in such shambles with the crime going on was desperate to solve this case with all the scrutiny around it they had tunnel vision. They did a shotty job and they have the wrong guy. I 100% used to this it was him until i actually researched the case unlike majority of people commenting on here…
@@Siyanibingelela some people consider watching documentaries to be research 🙄
Everything about this case was horrible.. its the smiling and the joy in his voice on those calls while Lacy was missing .. that is all the evidence anyone needed.
Thank god your not part of a jury in a big case like this
no that’s actually not considered evidence of a murder. It’s evidence he is an asshole and a bad husband which is indisputable. But there is no evidence he murdered her. No physical evidence at all. And there would be.
@@TheEwokExplorer ever hear of Chris Watts? He murdered his entire family and didn't leave any evidence.
@@TheEwokExplorer Innocent my ass.
A treasure trove of incriminating evidence against S Todd and G Pearce existed. information about any investigation of this tip. Lt. Aponte gave a signed statement to defense investigators which said the prisoner had been interviewed by MPD, and that MPD had received a copy of the taped phone conversation. Instead of this information being disclosed during discovery. The only information provided to the defense about his tip was a simple notation on a CD which included 10,000 other tips about the case.
-Merlin, the trailing dog owned by Cindee Valentin, trailed Laci's scent to the Gallo Winery in the airport district, on the night of December 26. Not far from the burglars residence.
-December 31, a gold Croton watch, identical to Laci’s watch which disappeared the same day she did, was pawned by Deanna Renfro. Highly unlikely this is just a coincidence.
It gets better. The families of Deanna Renfro, Steven Todd and the Tenbrinks know one another.
-Diane Jackson reported seeing 3 men with a VAN and a SAFE in front of the Medina’s house at 11:40 a.m. on December 24. There is no debating this. The burglary happened the same day Laci disappeared. Both Todd and Pearce pled guilty to burglary charges 12-24-02. They both received reduced sentences.
- S Todd would have received 25 years for his third offense. So why did he get 8 years and 8 months, far less than 25 years. Pearce received only 180 days, yet he was another career criminal.
-Tom Harshman, who lived in Modesto, was driving with Elizabeth Harshman between 2 and 4 p.m. on the afternoon of December 24. He saw a young pregnant woman being forced into a van. He turned around and went back to the spot hoping to find the van still there and hoping to get more information about the license plate number. But they were gone.
1. He called police (911 MPD) that same day.
2. Tried again December 28.
3. December 28, he also called the Laci tip line twice. His first call on this date was listed incorrectly under the name Harsh and was given Bates Stamp number 14789. The call was given to Detective Holmes. Harsh(man) said that he had called 3 or 4 days earlier on the day that he had seen a pregnant young woman being pushed into a van. There had been a man standing over her as she squatted to urinate with her back up against a chain-link fence. The man was described as 30’s, tall, thin, with ponytail, dirty blonde to gray hair, scrubby looking. When she finished, the woman was shepherded back to the driver’s door of the car, where another man’s arm was seen pulling her into the car. He said the young woman was wearing black pants and a red shirt. He said she had a scared look on her face."
4. Jan 3rd, he went to the Command Post in the park and relayed this to the officer on duty. Over
40,000 pages in the discovery and nothing about this report was in it.
5. February 2003, Harshman’s wife spoke to a relative of hers who lived in New York about the sighting of Laci Peterson near the corner of Scenic and Claus. Mrs. Harshman’s relative shared this story with an NYPD detective. This NYPD detective was so concerned that he contacted the MPD and spoke personally to Detective Grogan on February 14, 2003. What did Grogan do with the information? Nothing at all
6. pre-trial hearings in May of 2004, DA Investigator Kevin Bertalotto noticed the Harshman tip and insisted that Grogan call Tom Harshman and speak to him personally. Grogan did this on May 18, 2004.
An audiotape and a transcription of his conversation with Harshman to the defense on May 20, 11 days before the beginning of the trial.
I think she might have suspected he was slipping out on her and questioned him and the got into an argument. It’s also likely that Laci suspected nothing and he caught her off guard and attacked her.👿
I believe the later scenario.
The video says Laci knew prior to conceiving that he had an affair. But she chose to stay.
It was planned, every bit of it, weeks before. The boat and lie he told Amber happened Dec 8 and 9.
@@mrsbluesky8415he told Amber he had loss his wife December 9th a full 2 weeks before Laci went missing !! The evidence is overwhelming against Scott to many things point directly at him !! What sealed it was the bodies washing ashore within 1 mile where Scott was supposedly fishing !!
No. This was not a “heat in the moment” murder. This was clearly and carefully a pre-meditated homicide. It was coldly calculated. He probably either suffocated Laci with a pillow, or strangled her. He may have waited until Laci was asleep to do it. What a creep!
IMO-He killed laci because he felt trapped with the upcoming birth of Connor. He wanted to continue the self serving life he lived outside of his marriage- his freedom would have been challenged by having a newborn baby.
He's expressionless and cold. Just a monster.
She was a sweetheart and had an amazing smile and seems funny and full of life
His mom was cold too
@@Tracy-rf7ri-His Father was cold as well. There is a video where Lee Peterson first meets Laci, then says Oh, she is the huggie type like it was a bad thing.
@@musiclover3205 True but that doesn't excuse Scott. He didn't have to be like his parents. He chose to be.
@@Tracy-rf7ri-Of course that doesn't excuse Scott but when a person is raised by cold, distant parents they are inclined to be the same way.
@@musiclover3205 Not true. It's a choice. My mom is colder than a winter in Maine but I'm not. He's a killer and a loser. That's my take on it
I always believed Scot Peterson is a sociopath.
Basically he did not want to be a father he knew he couldn't afford it and he didn't want to be a father he didn't want the responsibility he knew that if he left he would be stuck paying child support so he tried to make both of them vanish I do believe he's a sociopath
When it first happened, I was talking with a local news reporter behind the scene. It was at that point I decided that he had something to do with it. No decent man drives 80+ miles away (160 miles RT) and leaves an 8 mos pregnant wife at home alone on Christmas Eve. That, in an of itself proved it to me (and most people). Years later, I watched a Netflix documentary about the trial and a noticed that someone in my extended social group had been on the jury. When I asked him about the "verdict" his response was that "we wanted to make a statement that killing your wife was illegal in California." For me, have Mark Geregos as his defense council was also proof of his guilt. Geregos only defends guilty clients. Scott deserves to rot in hell for eternity.
She had a month and a half to go before her delivery date. He had left her alone every work day before that as he went on his selling trips to farms all over the area. And if he HAD told Laci about Frey as he claimed, she may well have wanted him out of the house for the day. There are American men who travel into the interior of Canada for a few days fishing which takes a combination of plane trips over an extended time. His actions were totally reasonable.
I totally and unequivcally disagree. No decent man drives from Modesto to the Berkeley Marina on Chirstmas Eve and leaves his heavily pregnant wife behind.
@@NoSpam1891
@@NoSpam1891 I have to agree. She may have felt fine and her family were a phone call away if she needed help. He had a job that had him away from home at least part of the time. So that he went to do an activity at that stage of pregnancy doesn't surprise me; plus it was during the day; she supposedly wasn't going to be alone on Christmas eve evening. I also think it is possible that he told Laci about Amber Frey; and it could have been presented simply as a physical outlet for him (whether Laci liked it or not.) Laci stayed with him after she found out he cheated before (when they were living separately.) Still, there is something extremely odd about Scott Peterson; he seemed removed from the idea that his plan (if there were one) might fail. He strikes me as being very stupid, but was he? Or was he just "even if I am suspected, no one can prove anything" which is more arrogance rather than stupidity. I think his friends from his high school to college to early employment days could have shed light on his personality and values; yet I have read and seen and heard very little of that.
I hope you never get selected for a jury if you think him fishing on Christmas Eve while his wife was pregnant "proved it".
@@ellecee453 People who went to school with him said he was very smart. ISTM that for longer than many people he held on to the idea that something weird had happened and Laci would be ok and it would be a story they would tell their kids about how mommy scared the hell out of daddy. When he realized it was much worse he flipped and totally dedicated himself to the search. There's a long list of things he did to find Laci. He could have faked being innocent but didn't try. He did try to keep Frey a secret because he correctly surmised that exposing that would end any searching. He was right, even Laci's mother abandoned her. She could have survived into February - we don't know because the MPD weren't interested and said so.
I mean He could've just went out to get a gallon of milk and never came back.
I think it was about the baby too, but not the lack of attention on himself. He was used to that, that’s why he had affairs. They were tight with money and a baby would have placed more stress on their financial situation. He couldn’t afford to divorce her, he couldn’t afford a baby. It was all about the money for this psycho. He is exactly where he should be, in prison.
He didn't want to have to sell his boat in order to afford a baby. What a psychopath.
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It's so odd they were strapped for money when they sold a biz profitably, both worked at decent-paying jobs, had inheritances and family money on both sides. They definitely bought more than a starter home with a pool and hot tub and apent money like water on unnecessary renos while entertaining like there was no limit ; stress if their own making.
@shiningstar2903 They were not strapped for money.
Appeal page.
"Special Agent Doug Mansfield testified that it appeared to him that Scott and Laci were living within their means.
Laci's brother, Brent Rocha testified that Laci was frugal and careful with money and that Scott was handy and had done many of their home improvements himself. Brent testified that with regards to the Rocha family finances, there was no financial motive for Scott to do anything to Laci or Conner. Laci was to inherit $160,000+ from the sale of her grandparent's home. Laci would have received this money after her grandfather died and when she reached the age of 30. (Laci's grandfather was moved into a skilled nursing facility in the fall of 2002 and died in December 2003.) There was another Rocha family trust valued at over $2,400,000. Laci and her two siblings would have eventually inherited half of that estate. Scott would inherit none of this money if Laci were dead.
Scott and Laci's financial planner, Brian Ullrich testified that Scott was funding a retirement plan.
Tradecorp accountant, Jeffrey Coleman testified that Scott received a raise in January of 2003.
Modesto City Auditor, Gary Nienhius testified on direct examination that Scott and Laci's debt ratio had increased from 2001 to 2002. Upon cross examination by defense attorneys it was revealed that he had not been given Laci's 2002 income (over $6000) for his calculations and that this income would have made a difference in his calculations. Nienhius also testified on cross examination that Scott and Laci's credit report showed "paid" and "never late" on all accounts. They had multiple credit lines available to them with zero balances. He testified that Scott paid the premium for Laci's medical insurance on December 23rd, the day before she went missing. Scott and Laci were also making additional principal payments on their mortgage."
I've always thought he either strangled her or held her down in the swimming pool and drowned her. He is beyond guilty. He told Amber it would be his first Christmas without his wife weeks before she went missing!
Maybe he borrowed a phasor from Spock and set it on kill. Then he got Scottie to beam her body to the bay. /s
I've always thought he ran her a warm bath and did it indoors.
@@susannah1066 Silly. How did he move the body?
And remember, Laci and Conner were still alive on Jan 3rd, 10 days after Laci was abducted.
@@NoSpam1891baaaaahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
@@NoSpam1891 So you say. Took her in the car to boat.
It's so rare for someone to kill a stranger who is 8 months pregnant
Actually 2 other pregnant women were adducted and murdered in an 8 month time frame before Laci.
Also the testimony of the date the neighbors reporting their break-in at their home was wrongfully entered into evidence. The police then threatened the neighbor to make the date same as there's ( because it was a white van seen in the neighborhood)
Scott was convicted, but let's be honest
The police had tunnel vision, they were biased and refused to look elsewhere. The judge was biased, the jury was biased ( grounds for an appeal) no matter what your opinion of this case? This is not how the justice system is supposed to work.
You need evidence for a death sentence trial, not gut feelings.
@@cannpdx781Scot did it,we should all know that!
@@LaurenKaminskihe was convicted of it, but people are allowed to continue to research the case, and come to different conclusions. Like this channel, what a joke, he just tells you want you want to hear. No one wants to hear we put a man on death row because he's a selfish bastard. You can have your opinion, I will have mine ,lazy police investigation, biased judge, white trash jurors who should have been thrown off the case, talking to you " strawberry shortcake" who later wrotr a book.
So have your opinion, and I will have mine.
how did scott kill her then and why?
Pregnant women are at great risk from other women. Look up Savanna LaFontaine-Greywind and see how many parallels there were.
He had a wandering eye….other body part too. He liked playing around. Laci apparently knew some of this and they argued. Then the pregnancy. He didn’t want to be married and tied down with a baby…..maybe eventually more children. Divorce was not an option now, ex-wife and baby would take too big a chunk of his cash. Also, he was the golden boy, so being divorced would be a scar on his perfection. The easy, clean solution is just get rid of Laci and the pregnancy, before the baby is born.
He’d be the poor widower, not that bad cheating husband who abandoned a good wife and infant son. His reputation, his image was more important to him than their lives.
He never planned on being caught.
I never thought he was handsome, he has a silly face and smile.
He and all the family members thought he was handsome and that’s all that counts. Also his girlfriends thought he was handsome so he was good to go.
@@terryKessler42719 - Some of his “girlfriends” may have just seen money. A healthy bank account can make even the homeliest man look good.
And why this dude ain't swinging from the hangmans noose baffles me. Rotten too the core , rich by working-class standards and lying his ass off on tv , sickening. We live in the area the body's were found , even here this crime stands out as one of the worst in memory.
I would have lost my shit had he been found not guilty. I was pregnant at same time as Lacey. My son just turned 20. I took this case personal. It made me get away from an volatile relationship. Couldn’t imagine what she went through and my heart breaks for them both
My wife was 3 months pregnant with my son when this happened and she wanted to harm Scott really bad
@crystalrusmisel1832 my daughter is also 20, and my due date was the same date as Laci’s in Feb, but I was induced in Jan. So crazy! I often wonder what Laci and Conner would be doing today and if she would have eventually found out about the affair and left him?
@crystalrusmisel1832 have you read her mom, Sharon Rocha’s book ~ For Laci? Very interesting and heartbreaking read!
@@shall4201 Yes. It also proves that Dr March was correct and Gregory DeVore was wrong, 3 out of 3 as he and the prosecution admitted. Conner and Laci were alive after Dec 24th.
Why would he be found not guilty? He was obviously lying, and evidence showed he was making cement anchors in his garage, while his dead wife and baby washed up on shore at the same place he was fishing the day she went missing. He had no shot at beating this lmao.
I think he was trying to manage his facade as the perfect guy. Can’t do that if you’re divorced. He probably didn’t want to share attention with his son but it’s easier to kill the wife that ties you down than an infant; even for a sociopath. Shame on his family for refusing to see what he is.
Absolutely.
How sad, we let animals like Scott, OJ, etc. live. :(
Oj is innocent
@@kingrama2727no he isn’t!!!
@@LaurenKaminski he was found innocent by a jury of his peers… sorry
@@kingrama2727Peterson was found guilty by a jury of his peers...sorry, not sorry.
@@kingrama2727only because his legal team threatened a riot. They race baited. It’s sad because remember when O.J said he wasn’t black? Remember when O.J moved as far as he could from the black community? LOL
All the signs were there that he never wanted to be a father and with his constant cheating Laci believed a baby would settle him or at least give her a child to love. She didn't want to hear that he wasn't interested in having a family. I think Connors near entrance into this world snapped him. Laci would still be alive if she didn't get pregnant and Scott would have just kept cheating on her until she either accepted it or divorced him.
People are getting more aware than ever about narcissism, the double life they live and the extent of what they are able to do behind the scene. It's about time.
Exactly +
No kidding. I mean many may wonder why so much attention was given to this murder but it just was the absolute worst possible scenario for what appeared to be “the perfect family”. Of course nobody is perfect BUT they were attractive, college educated, homeowners, children of two families involved heavily. Country members. Professionals.
It’s a wake up call to NOT assume what the outside shows IS what’s the real truth.
often times when I’m around people that seems so perfect, those are the people I’m most concerned about.
@@FGSAtlantait's almost like none of that superficial stuff matters...it's who you are on the inside that counts!!
Kudos!
Poor Laci, married the man she loved, and he shows no emotion when she is murdered and shagged his way round any willing woman. It’s not rocket science is it??
Narcissists and psychopaths don’t have emotions unless it’s about themselves and it’s hard to find a bigger narcissist than this evil bastard
I followed every second of this case,,and to this day am soo sad. Beautiful Laci and her sweet baby. Scott is exactly where he needs to be.
I remember an interview many years ago with Laci's friends....they mentioned that they would have "SOPRANO's" parties where everyone would come over, eat and watch the current episode of The Soprano's. They I realized, there's an episode where the character "BIG PUSSY" was taken out on a boat, where he was shot and rolled in a tarp and weighed down with chains. He was then thrown into the ocean. To this day, in my opinion, I think this was a helpful idea to Scott when he had to dispose of Laci's body.
I remember that!
@@lauralutz4538 Did you think the same thing??
@@rubytuesday9881It's doubtful that commenter killed someone, however that's a very legitimate and interesting post about Scott and Laci watching that show. Murderers often get their ideas from books and TV shows.
Who is "commenter"? @@Justicia007
I still cannot believe he killed that beautiful woman and the child she was carrying for him because she loved him. He is the ultimate monster.
Well thats a good thing you cant believe it because scott didnt do it common sence shows that
@@caliSmoke209 Scott did do it.
@@caliSmoke209 Sense
Both sofie and videofanatics think OJ is innocent 🤣🤣
@@johndolph131 Last word Bully.
I disagree with it being solely about, "his unborn son, 'Connor'." I think he was "tired of Laci and his marriage to her too." He was a "serial cheater." Why do men cheat? They want to "escape" their relationship for one reason or another and it has to do with the relationship they have with their spouse. He's surely "no golden boy?" What an unmotivated/unhappy guy . . . He wasn't "highly successful" in life; he was a fertilizer salesman. No offense to ANYONE; but, he wasn't a doctor, surgeon, lawyer, multi billionaire . . . His parent's view of their son in disgustingly inaccurate . . . He is a real lousy liar, not a clever criminal and an obvious murderer. DELUSIONAL . . .
I remember her mother saying “divorce is always an option” He wanted to leave but He didn’t want to pay years of child support.
But he wanted to be step daddy to Amber's little girl. Wow
He could have cut all ties.
@@Golden_Girl7123because he can walk away from that and it wins him points with the mom
And leave the house to her.
Narcissism is what most likely happened. But my best guess is she was the lighter fluid which struck his match. He probably felt like she was controlling too much of his life's plan and he got tired of it. A narcissist is only violent towards those close to them, never the public. His decision was pure "You're not going to do this anymore to me". Some people find finality in death instead of a divorce. Why? They're narcissists.
There are so many parallels between this story and the Chris Watts story. Both involve mistresses and unborn children.
Except that Scott Peterson is in fact innocent while Chris Watts confessed to the murders of of his wife and two daughters and led investigators to their bodies.
@@steverouse1976😂😂😂
Sure 👌🥴
@@steverouse1976 Scott is guilty.
@@steverouse1976 lol c'mon man! He slipped up and admitted to fishing in the same lake, 90 miles away from Modesto, mind you, that they found her decomposing body in. How in the heck does a coincidence like that happen! It's so obvious he's guilty, but I respect your position on this. I know others who also think he's innocent. I guess even I have to give him the "benefit of the doubt" even despite the overwhelming amount of evidence that proves his guilt 🤷♂️
And murder...
I can’t believe how some people can mess up a seemingly idyllic life situation only to REALLY mess it up and throw it away. A more recent example is Alex Murdoch.
Only difference is alex was proven to be the murderer, while scott has no hard evidence proving him to be a murderer, the only evidence against scott is that he is a cheater
@@caliSmoke209what hard evidence did they have against Alex Murdaugh?
@@sophie8394 his son was doing a video minutes before his death that clearly had alex in the back ground yelling at the dog bubba, for having a chicken in his mouth, and then alex lie and say he was never down at the kennels, and then changed his story after the video came out in court
@@sophie8394 also telling his mothers caregiver to lie for him and say he was visiting his mother for over a hour but in reality he was only there for 20 min
@@caliSmoke209 have you heard any of Scott's lies? He was also at the spot his wife and son's dead bodies washed up. If you think there's more evidence against Alex Murdaugh than Scott Peterson, you know nothing about this case.
The baby was too much responsibility. He wanted the perfect image but couldn’t handle real responsibility.
That TV interview he did was almost laughable!
Innocent people don’t lie❤️
That guilty verdict sure wiped that arrogant smirk off Scott's face.
I lived in California when this happened. It was HUGE news, and just as big when the bodies washed up the day after a huge storm hit.
I agree, Scott wanted to get rid of, Connor. Money & taking all attention away from him were both reasons. God knows what grief, Lacy put up with from, Scott. I think she loved him too much & accepted poor treatment from him. God rest Lacy & Connors Souls.🕯💔🙏
I believe once Scott realized Laci's due date was the same day as
Amber's birthday...her days were numbered.
Her ethnicity play some part, I think.
@@alyngrace123 What ethnicity?
@@alyngrace123🙄
He calls himself Hottie Scottie. There’s something seriously wrong with this guy.
This is the most concise and clear restatement of this case I've seen so far. Great job. And it indeed may be true that it was mostly about Connor. There is some indication that Laci was ill during the pregnancy because Scott was poisoning her in order to induce a miscarriage. (After all, he had access to many chemicals due to his work in the fertilizer industry.) It didn't work, and Scott had boxed himself into so many corners that he felt he needed to kill them both before the delivery of the baby. It may be that had he been successful in causing Laci to lose the baby, he would not have felt the need to resort to killing her, too. However, to work oneself into enough of a rage to kill your loving, innocent wife with your own bare hands, and at Christmas, too, HAS to imply a certain amount of at least hidden violent hatred of the victim, whether or not it's defined as sociopathy.
That's wild I thought I knew this case very well but I never connected the dots with her being ill during the pregnancy and possible poisoning.
Wow, that’s interesting, and I bet he worried that he had caused some developmental problems in Connor. All the more pressure for someone like him to do away with the pregnancy.
I def think he didn’t want lacy to have a baby!!
He wanted to get rid of his Wife. And by extension, the baby inside of her. He would've eventually killed her, and I guarantee there was long-term abuse that we don't know about (because she is dead). Killing them was just the next step in his calculated plan for "freedom".
This is one of the stupidest comments ever but typical of a case with no evidence of guilt anywhere.
My opinion is he didn't love Laci and didn't want to be a father. There is Chris Watts (devil man) and Scott both were having affairs and killed their wife I believe by strangulation, pure evil.
Brent Rocha confirmed that Scott did indeed plan to have a family, and was quite emotional about becoming a father:
Mark Geragos: And also fair to say that she was very excited about the kid?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: Okay. And Scott was as well?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: When he talked about, when you talked to him, he would express the fact that he's, I mean he's a goal-oriented person; you heard that description earlier today. You would agreed with that, right?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: And is, one of his goals was to have a child and a family?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: Okay. And he told you that he was thinking about what kind of father he was going to be and he was crying and he said he was going to be great; isn't that what he told you?
Brent Rocha: That's what he was saying.
Sharon Rocha confirmed, on Larry King Live, that Laci told her Scott had changed his mind about having a baby shortly after they moved to Covena in October 2002:
ROCHA: “that's when she told me that Scott had said that he didn't think he wanted to have children. Of course that concerned me because we'd had conversations before in his presence or they had had conversations in my presence about having children.
KING: So then it shocked you?
ROCHA: It did. It really surprised me.
KING: But then she got pregnant.
ROCHA: Well, then she went on to say that not only did she -- that he didn't think he wanted to have children, she also said that he didn't want to. So, I was -- I was really upset about that knowing that he knew how she felt about having children.
And then it was about a month or so later, it was around Thanksgiving time she and I were in the kitchen preparing dinner when she told me that she's going to stop taking birth control pills in December. Well, that surprised me because it had only been a month ago that Scott didn't want to have children.
So, we had a conversation about that and I said, "Are you sure? Are both of you absolutely sure because you can't put the baby back once he's here"? Well, it was an it at that time. It was nothing at that time. And she said, yes, that they had talked about it and they were ready that Scott was ready also.
Greg Reed gave testimony about Scott's and Laci's relationship, and Scott's participation in Laci's pregnancy.
HARRIS: You also, Kristen, your wife, became friends with Laci, is that fair?
REED: All four of us met at the same time.
HARRIS: And they became friends separate of you and Scott? Kristen and Laci became friends?
REED: Yes, they did.
HARRIS: And at some point you and your wife began a Lamaze class at your home, is that correct?
REED: That is correct.
HARRIS: And you asked Scott and Laci if they would like to join in the Lamaze class?
REED: That is correct.
HARRIS: And they agreed to do that, right?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: Okay. During about a one month period, they came to your house on a weekly basis to participate in the Lamaze classes, is that right?
REED: That's probably about right. About once a week.
HARRIS: You got a chance to see them interact quite a bit during that, didn't you?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: And your impression, from telling the police, your impression was that they were a very happy couple?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: And, in fact, you told the police Scott treated her very, very well?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: They both, I believe your quote to the police was they were both very excited about the baby coming, is that right?
REED: That's what it appeared, yes.
HARRIS: And you were called in an interview you did with the police, excuse me. Let me take that back. Do you recall an incident at one point where you were looking through a catalog called Cabella's catalog?
REED: Yes, I remember that.
HARRIS: What is the Cabella's catalog?
REED: It's a hunting, fishing, outdoors-type of magazine. And equipment.
HARRIS: And they actually sell kids' camouflage outfits, is that right?
REED: In that magazine they were.
HARRIS: In that particular one?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: During that time you were looking at it, both you and Scott were going through the, the kids' section or the kids' outfits,
hunting and fishing, or whatever outfits, and the two of you were talking and laughing about how much you couldn't wait to buy your kids those kind of outfits, is that correct?
REED: I remember that clearly, that's correct.
HARRIS: Okay. Scott was very excited about that possibility, wasn't he?
REED: Yes.
Strangulation leaves forensic evidence. Every test done was negative. Cadaver dogs did not hit in any alleged crime scene, and yes, cadaver dogs can detect human decomposition shortly after death.
@@aok4418 No he did not. Liar.
@@VideoFanatic02 Wrong. Read the transcripts.
I watched another documentary about this, and the police believed deep down that Laci was already dead from the beginning. Also, the first responding officers deserve praise for trusting their gut instincts and telling their suspicions to their watch commander
The police were wrong. Every piece of evidence they collected went to innocence. They found zero evidence of guilt. Zero!
@@NoSpam1891you *do* know he's in prison right? 😂😂😂
both videofanatics and sophie scissor on the reg
both videofanatics and sophie think OJ is innocent 🤣🤣🤣 jury never gets it wrong right sophie!
@@johndolph131 Last word Scott
Very well done!
I agree with the summation-
he couldn't let a baby take away his attention 😢
Peterson was considered the "golden boy" of his family? The man sold fertilizes for Christ's sake!
His wife was 100 times more attractive than his mistress
Exactly.
I was 20 in 2002,and when I heard this I was so heartbroken..People that said hes guilty ,with all the bullshit thats been proven(he even smiles like this as nothing) He doesnt deserve to live.....
He got the death penalty but is getting another trial 😣
@@linda10989his death sentence was overturned and he was re-sentenced to LWOP in 2021.
His feeble attempt at a new trial was shot down last December.
@@sophie8394 Yay!!
It takes two to tango when a woman gets pregnant by a man their lives change completely and he was not willing to be responsible for a child that is called being a coward
Amber must have some good good
Scott off-ed Laci on Christmas Eve.
I'm convinced that Scott got an idea how to off Laci from the Jonbenet Ramsey case of 1996.
Jon Benet was off-ed during Christmas. The police were lacking personnel during the Christmas and, therefore, never did a good investigation.
Alan Dershowitz was interviewed about the Jonbenet Ramsey case on TV. Dershowitz said, "I know this is terrible to say, but if you want to commit m u r d e r and get away with it, do it on a holiday."
I think Scott saw that interview and got inspired.
Plus Scott's grandfather was murdered on December 23
Are you serious? 🤦♂️
I'm never understand why husbands or wives never think they'll get caught when they're the first on the police when a spouse is murdered who would want to sit in a hot jail cell for the rest of their lives I'll never understand it never
Completely agree with you. The chances of getting away with killing your spouse are about as good as winning the lottery. And now with cameras everywhere and advanced DNA technology it’s almost impossible.
Husbands more so. Usually if women murder it’s because their in an abusive environment.
The first time I saw Scott's photo w Laci something told n I told my 90 yr old stepmom that "when all this over ill bet u they find Scott did it."
It was a baby, not a fetus. She was 8 months pregnant, it was a baby
I'm pro choice but I absolutely agree with you. Poor Connor.
Every witness identified it as a full term baby. There was no vernix, no lanugo.
Guilty as hell.
Another malignant narcissist just like Jeffrey Macdonald😢...rest in JESUS' Laci and Connor
The appeals are horseshit, he's 100% guilty
His cold unconcerned attitude indicates he is a psychopath . Sends cold chills down your back . Probably would do it again to the next person if he had the possibility!. Just as well he is behind bars .
I still think of Laci and Connor every time I drive to the city and pass the area they were found.
There are people that think Jodi Aria is innocent < Cray cray > same people believe Scott is not guilty
I'll never understand murder as an option instead of divorce. I guess he was only concerned with how those outcomes would affect him and his reputation. He chose poorly.
Heartbreaking crime. Why didn’t Scott just get a divorce if he didn’t love Laci anymore?
This guys a poster boy for the death penalty.
Some have speculated he got Laci in a hot tub saying she was having back pain because of the pregnancy and in the hot tub held her underwater and drowned her. At that far along pregnant she would have been no match for his strength to fight him.
they had a swiming pool.
@@alyngrace123 it was winter, so I thought I heard hot tub he got in with her, but maybe your right.
Or in the pool, I’ve always thought this.
I’ve always thought he smothered he while she slept (Possibly drugged). He’s always struck me as too much of a coward to engage in a struggle.. even with a heavily pregnant tiny woman. Putting a pillow (or something else) over a sleeping person’s face seems more in keeping with his detached narcissistic personality.
Great roundup of the facts and outcome of the entire case!
I absolutely agree that he killed Laci to get rid of the baby. I am not sure that it had to do with being the center of attention. I think it had to do with the life long responsibility that coming with a child. It would have hindered his lifestyle & ability to maintain his "golden boy" appearance. He may have tried to cause Lace to have a miscarriage and once she was far enough along for the baby to survive even if delivered prematurely, he killed them both.
I will never understand how a serial cheater could justify sociopath or not murdering his wife and unborn child, how can anyone even consider that? The other question I always had was the money. He had 15k in the car with him when arrested and 2K in the bank the day Lacy was murdered. Was his family giving him cash?
I would imagine so. His disgusting parents still think he's innocent.
@@TheRbaker843 I assumed as much but I’ve never read any confirmation we’re his money was coming from.
Actually, it was his parents who were giving him money. His mother tried to explain the reason that she gave Scott the money was because she had accidentally removed the money from his account and she was giving it back to him. Very lame excuse and the jury saw through it immediately.
@@mensablonde826ya. I accidentally withdraw 10k from the bank at least once a week 😂😂😂
@@sophie8394 I know right? Now here comes johndolph131 to say that we think O.J. is innocent......
*IF IT WERE SOLELY ABOUT THE BABY, PETERSON WOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE BIRTH*
Instead, Peterson wanted both of them gone. In my opinion, his pathology and actions clearly demonstrate a psychotic who wanted complete freedom to be whomever he wanted to be with multiple women. Peterson's _type of pathology_ does not want to be committed as it relates to being a responsible and accountable individual.
_"Obviously, Peterson harbored a deep disdain towards his wife and lack any emotional connection towards his unborn child for that he dumped _in-utero_ without difficulty."_
Even till this day, Peterson's psychopathic malignant narcissistic nature will not allow him to come-clean and deal with the consequences. Hence, the reason for jurors to make the decision for individuals who commit heinous crimes.
There is way too much circumstantial evidence for me to ever believe he’s innocent. I don’t know if he did it himself, but he knows what happened.
So you’re basically saying they didn’t prove it 100% but i kinda think he did it. You think he might have had help but you’re not really sure. So you think someone should just sit in jail for life bc your sorta mb think he did it but it wasn’t really proven?
@@johndolph131 So I don’t think he did it himself, he doesn’t look like the type to get his hands dirty. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t get someone else to do it for him. Also I said circumstantial evidence, you know like using past tense when talking about his wife before her body was found. Or how about telling his girlfriend this would be the first Christmas without his wife, and then she mysteriously just disappeared. And wouldn’t you know it she winds up dead. I think the jurors at his trail were unprofessional, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t belong in prison.
Guys will say anything to get laid, if he told another girl he “lost” his wife he’s pulling on the emotional strings to get her to feel sorry for him so he could get laid. Cheating doesn’t equal murder. I don’t believe he hired someone bc there would need to be communication with someone consistently and they didn’t find that or large payments leaving the bank account. If scott did it they never proved beyond reasonable doubt it was him therefore by the state of the law i couldn’t convict him…
@@johndolph131 True, but it wasn’t just the cheating. It was all of the other stuff that I mentioned in the previous comment. That and his lying went above and beyond. He was at a vigil for his wife pretending to be in Paris. I know people grieve in different ways, but I’m sorry that’s weird to me. If I “lost” my wife I’d go to the ends of earth to find her. But I guess you don’t have to do that when you already know where they are. He’s in prison because everything they did have kept coming back to him. He was the only person they couldn’t clear.
everything you’re saying literally doesn’t equal murder, it makes him look like a lousy husband. Nothing you’re saying is concrete evidence that goes yes that proved he 100% killer her. All you’re proving to me with what you’re saying is he is 100% a bad husband… where’s the blood, the motive (real motive not just guess), where’s the crime scene?, how did he do it?, you really think he dumped a dead body in broad day light in the marina???
He wasn't convicted because he had an affair he was convicted because he was so arrogant that he couldn't stop himself from behaving like he KNEW his wife and child were already dead and no one could be that certain except the person that killed her.
Scott Peterson makes me sick. 🤢
I love the organization of this video. His flight after screams guilt.
Love the way it’s so obvious like duh 🙄
Close to Mexican border. Blonde hair. Goatee. Brother’s ID. Lots of cash to F off.
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does it scream guilty? If you were in his shoes and innocent and the media and everyone is saying you did it but you didn’t what would you do. Would you just sit around and wait to get arrested bc that’s what it 100% looks like is going to happen. You can have your opinion that he did it that’s fine, but if you were innocent and being blasted by the media as a murderer but you really didn’t do it, what would you do just curious? No matter what scott does/did people thought he was guilty. if he didn’t try running he was 100% guilty if he does try running he’s 100% guilty. What would you do?
Right. Fleeing to a golf course in the opposite direction of Mexico.
@@brennanhuff2960😳
Are you harassing people who have a different opinion than you?
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@@sophie8394 Nope. Just pointing out that he was headed north and not fleeing to anywhere other than a golf course. And if the original poster doesn’t respond to me, I’m not going to leave him/her a bunch of 🦗 emojis either.
Keep these coming please!
This channel should do a video about Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald, the Princeton-educated former U.S. Army Green Beret who was accused of stabbing to death his pregnant wife and and two young daughters in 1970.
Yes, another railroaded guy who the police had tunnel vision and ignored evidence that would have found the guilty party
@@cannpdx781 Even Vincent Bugliosi would not represent him for his retrial after speaking with the D.A. as to what evidence they had on him.
@@michaelproctor8100 apparently it must be evidence they never gave at trial?? Evidence not in public records is what kind of evidence?
And he only won a new sentencing trial, not a new criminal trial.
To which I should add, due to the conduct of the jurors he was certainly entitled too.
@@cannpdx781 The following is from Bugliosi's 1996 book Outrage: I telephoned the federal prosecutor handling the case in North Carolina and asked what he had against MacDonald. The prosecutor would not say very much, but did mention a few pieces of evidence to me, one of which was that fibers from MacDonald's blue pajamas had been found embedded beneath the fingernails of his two-and-a-half-year- old daughter. That invoked in my mind the horrifying scene of a little girl crying out, "Daddy, Daddy, no" as she reached out and struggled against her father while he stabbed her to death. That was enough for me. I wanted nothing to do with the case.
@@cannpdx781 At the time Bugliosi was contacted to represent MacDonald in late 1973/early 1974 he learned that MacDonald was about to be reindicted.
Now why would Laci want to have a child with a man who repeatedly cheated on her? He was showing her who he really was.
The hope that fatherhood will change him
Lacy had some self esteem issues, I think. Poor woman. We’ll never know how she was treated behind closed doors.
I love that you covered this case, I just wish it was longer!! I enjoyed it!!
If your boyfriend says he doesn't want kids, believe him and move on!
When the information is all laid out together, this guy seems like a real idiot for thinking he could get away with this. 🤦♀️
Lots of questions still remain
@@Solitude47152what questions?
@@sophie8394 When was she killed?
Where was she killed?
How was she killed?
Who killed her ?
@@Solitude47152 the when, where and how isn't required to secure a conviction.
The who was proven in court almost 20 years ago.
@@sophie8394 Well it’s still awaiting the appellate court to rule. There’s still a lot of questions that haven’t been answered
What I will never forget is how calm, cool and collected he was throughout handling his missing wife and throughout the trial. His demeanor was unusual considering the stress level. It indicated to me that he was wired differently. I do not think he killed his wife simply because of the baby. I think he wanted an easy way out of the whole situation, and he didn’t want any financial responsibility.
I can see the imprint on the comforter across the bottom of the bed with no other sliding mark, as if what was on it was lifted off not like someone got up & off the bed themselves changing the imprint.
It’s not that people think he’s innocent, it’s that the trial wasn’t fair. If he is tried again he will no doubt be found guilty. We must have fair trials no matter how much we believe a person is guilty.
So much information I didn’t know!!! Well done!!