The Many Pros & Cons of New Game Plus in Starfield
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2023
- In this video I'll answer the question, "what exactly is New Game Plus?" and I'll cover some of the many pros and cons involved in deciding whether or not you should enter a New Game Plus in Starfield.
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I love how the NG+ grind makes you basically adopt the mindset of the Hunter... a great wrinkle in how the "Game Plus" system normally works.
It’s a cool way to write it into the story!
Still boring tho
Then don't play it? I am still enjoying it and have a ton of hours into it already (just hit lvl 152).
@@t3h8ar0n 60 hours lvl 126 NG+ sucks it doesn't even add anything at all same crap over and over again
One misstep with NG+ is not having the ability to randomly encounter one of your previously made ships.
Would be cool. Doesn’t make any sense though because you’re in a different universe.
I feel like it’d be cooler if each universe was slightly different and that you could be able to go to different universes since technically you’re able to travel the multiverse
@@lconnerz100well everything is a same so why not
@@jacob7649 not not everything. Thats not how they work.
@@lconnerz100 talk to me when you actually played the game ☕
Great video, I like your analysis.
Personally, I been using the NG+ to do the alternative quest lines that would normally cause issues playing both sides. Example, 1 playthrough I was in the UC and another I was in the Crimson Fleet.
Thank you! That’s exactly what I’m doing! It’s sorta cool from an RPG standpoint you can use that as like an extended character ark for your character and change morality from playthrough to playthrough
I’d have 2 main game saves. The 1st one if the base game (no NG+) where I try and max my level and skills that I want:
e.g. piloting, astrophysics, wellness, fitness, etc maxed.
Basically this is the ultimate “hero build” that you’d expect from a Starborn to have. The rest of the skills will be unlocked at level 1 to make progression optional/easier.
The 2nd base save is exclusively a NG+ save with everything above carried over. But it will be set for NG+8 as I think the space suit you get there looks the best
My first few outposts were made when I didn't know what I was doing. NG+ seems like an easy way to start that over 😂
They are still beautiful I’m sure 😂
Also FYI: you get to keep your research and research progress with NG+. Meaning if you only needed 1 item to complete a research and then did NG+ when you check your research you will see you still only need that 1 item like before NG+.
As to is NG+ right or not. That is like asking what flavor of ice cream do you like. It isn't the same for everyone, but there are some trends. As Lt Eggnog said do what is right for you. For ME I'm on my 4th NG+ each iteration I don't do the main quest BUT I do all of the faction quests, and putter around the universe some before I make the run to the next iteration. I find rebuilding wealth isn't that hard so that I can make my own ship. I have enough perks that it makes fights fairly easy with conventional weapons, and my powers are just starting to get to the powerful side. Really they would need to be a few more ranks higher, and well that will take time the way I play. (FYI I'm not in a rush)
One bug I've had that was REALLY annoying, was I started 1 NG+ and ended up with kids at the lodge.. /sigh my game bugged out and wouldn't let me save. I sooo wish I could have kept that world. It would have been interesting, and would have definetly done whatever quest was there to do.
Thanks for sharing! I agree it gets easier to obtain wealth each time. I like the way that each NG+ lets you extend your character ark and kind of rebrand your builds as you go
Lol doing the same missions over again?
I did about 30 hours of content and before I finished the game the first time,then I saw the powers level up with every universe and cap at 10 so I spent another 25 hours or so running through all 10 universes and hitting all the temples. Now I am thoroughly pleased with all the powers I have and I feel I can slow down and play the game.
If you are going to play like I did I highly recommend spamming Grav Dash with a quantum essence to get too every temple faster and speed up the process :)
Seems like the most efficient way to to do it!
Yay. after x hours of work you can finally have fun...
@@schauseil187if you have the time becoming a god might be worth the hours of tedious gameplay.
My first game i did all the quests i could find. Ng+1 i played full story and the 4 major side quest lines again. Then i just did rush options all the way through to ng+10 and am staying here in my forever home doing all the quests i can find again, building outposts and eventually visiting all planets and their marked locations.
Needless to say, im having a blast with the game.
Seems like a good plan! I definitely want to explore the outpost building more than I have so far. Glad you like the game!
Great video bro been wondering about this! Thank you
No problem glad I could help!
Very Good Video, gained yourself a sub, I was really wondering what the pros and cons were, I really wish I could start as a millionare lol, but good to know I'll be broke again lol.
Keep it up man!
Thanks so much for the support! Being broke ain’t so bad lol. If it’s any consolation, as you level your rewards scale so it gets easier and easier to get your money back as you progress!
Ive got almost 400 hours in SF now, I can safely say that I would NOT rush NG+. Take your time with the first universe and experience everything the game has to offer.
THEN back up your save files or make a new profile in your mod manager and continue to NG+.
This way you can always go back to your original universe but you can also see what the continued story offers.
I plan on making a new game soon and creating a new profile in MO2 for each NG+ mode. I am doing this so I can create content for each NG+ mode but for normal players this is still a great way to progress in Starfield. It leaves all your options open to return to your earlier universes.
That’s a cool idea!
I had a couple of main quests left in the first universe. I'd agree, don't rush it but I'm kinda glad I jumped into the NG+ when I did since I lost everything. The only thing I miss is the penthouse. I already got back the apartment in the well so hopefully I can get the penthouse back.
@@Mr2MuchJuice4U In a way doing a full run the first game but only dabbling in all of the features like Penthouses, Outposts etc. Enough to get all your research done. Then stepping into NG+1 is a great strategy.
If I were to do a game that I made permanent it would be a NG+ that was the normal universe where I can save everyone.
@@realWorsin yeah it's a good strategy but knowing what I know now about doing at least the research portion. You know what to do. Not really into outpost building but I'm sure I'll get there eventually. Right now I need to get my credits back up. I'm broke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I loved NG+, but mostly because I knew how it worked beforehand.
Basically finished what I have started but saved enough content for my not so friendly alter ego to keep it interesting.
And the ball is still rolling, "rebuilding" becomes quite easy with skills and you know a few level scaled weapon spots.
I wonder if the armor "name" you get is based on your previous games focus point, once I saw the great serpent.
Take note of the shape right before the credits roll.
enjoyable and informative video, thanks
Thank you!
Personally. A game breaking glitch ruined my level 60 character that I was doing everything with so when I started over I decided to power level my way to 100 then blow through the first 10 ng+ so I can play as an all powerful space wizard
There are potential meetings that you can only get with the New game plus . Most notable , you can meet five versions of yourself instead of the regular members of constellation . Unfortunately you can't recruit them and walk around with an army of yourselves . I'm sure that will become a thing once we get the creation kit though .
Yes I can’t wait for some of the new updates to come out. I’ll definitely make more starfield videos then and cover some of the new fun features. The game has great bones though for sure
There’s no way I’m ever doing a new game + lol. I invested waaaay to much time into ship building making my perfect and aesthetic ships lol.
To each their own. There’s no wrong way to play! You can always make a new character or save to try!
This is pretty much where I am. I'm just finishing up my dream ship and getting a whole industrial empire of outposts built. I strongly suspect my first NG+ will come in like a year when I decide to replay the game.
Same boat as you was at the 235hr mark had bunch of outpost and perfect ship Class C weapons and god tier + wifee. Then I NG+ an ever since I have not looked back. Sadly it does change how you play, you don't "loot" things unless it necessary. I am on NG+5 now and the powers, wow. You as a character are very different. Its a different game all together. If I go back to replaying many of my Original universe quest It would not be the same. lvl 62 now. with maxed out sneak and void cloak you cant be seen and if you are seen they wont live long enough to do anything about it.
I just launched NG1 yesterday, didn’t really want to, was planning on fully leveling up before I did but I’m my first world I had at least ten missions I couldn’t complete due to glitches. Even after the patch my Neon ship tech was still in ocean, mystery ships weren’t interacting properly among, temples not showing up, other things. So I decided to pass through the gate. So far NG has fixed many of these but only time will tell.
That’s so weird I haven’t had any glitches yet. I’m glad it fixed yours though!
Unfortunately, I sort of rushed through the main questline and I just mostly did the Freestar main faction questline. It was too sudden. So, I made new character andt this time I am starting it slow. At first, I thought the ending to this game was stupid. Like, you spent all the time getting resources, building ships, outposts, and getting into romances only to have them gone, even Sarah if you romanced her is gone, which is also contradicting, becuase the multiverse guy tells you that Sarah goes along with you to become starborn and that you will start a family together, apparently this doesn't happen and you are left with romancing her again from the beginning if you choose to do so, but aside from all that nonsense, it's one of the coolest new game plus mechanics I have ever seen in game and that fits into the story so immersively. That and having different dialogues each time you are in a new game plus and the ability to do all the questlines differently and choose different outcomes. Also, that you can choose to romance someone else if you into having a multiversal affair, lol. I am also very curious if say one were to find some secret feature or hidden secret in the game depending on how many times you go into a new game plus. Like 27 times since the game has been in development or any other number that has meaning pertaining to this game.
It certainly adds a cool dynamic to the game!
There ARE secrets baked into NG+. That is all I will say.
I will play my first playthrough (currently 100 hours) as long as it keeps me enterteined and I have explored everything I want in the game. Then when the day comes I feel like to play main mission again I will jump into the NG+ and make that playthrough little different.
In each playthrough I will build outposts and upgrate ships and create things. I make seperate saves so I can allways return my different Universes and Creations and have fun, when I have time :)
I've done 240hrs of Starfield and I think I'm ready to NG+. I haven't done everything, but I've done all the faction quests and a bunch of very cool side missions. I don't feel like I've rushed anything and enjoyed the game immensely so far. I think I want to NG+ only once and use my 2nd play through as my sandbox, playing through in full detail and focusing on collecting all items, building a fleet of ships and bunch of outposts, just to my liking. I have no need to play through a 3rd time (for the time being) and will be happy to just sit as an NG+1 only player. I guess we'll see xD
Sounds like a good plan to me!
I played 150 hours on my original play thru. Did all the faction quests and then went onto NG+. I’m just finishing +1 and think I’ll speed run +2 but ultimately like you I’ll stop at +3 and play thru everything all over again.
That’s a good plan. Let’s you soak in the game again and enjoy it fully and then you can decide on continuing or changing things up later
I was pretty much just going to treat the new game plus as just a new game, but with the cheat of keeping all of my characters skills. I was going to play the game until there was almost nothing left, or I just got bored and wanted to replay missions, then start NG+
Myself, why do anything until you've gotten through ng+10? After that, start it like you've never played. That way, you can keep all your stuff.
This makes sense ideally but I think it can kinda kill your drive to play when you are grinding through. But if that doesn’t bother you I agree this makes the most sense content wise
I plan on taking my first game (took a lot of time doing everything possible) then creating a NG+ separate save. Change character to a female and have two separate saves to play.
If I don’t like NG+ I’ll go back to my main play through and keep going.
That seems like a great plan. Best of both worlds but open to trying stuff!
to me its not about the powers , i did the main story fast the first playthroughjust to level up a bit and so when i start a new game plus i have a lot of perks already established..i have save files to be able to start a new game plus at any time and also when i do a new game plus i don't skip the main quest because if you skip it then it makes you basically have to to the entire main story anyway by going to each temple etc before you get companions, i hate going to those temples so i can totally avoid having to do that because the main story gets you all your companions the first few quests.
Late to the video I see. I knew sbout the NG+ ramifications early on so I had decided to play as much of everything there is first play-thru so I can appreciate whatever lies ahead there & all the work the devs did to create this game. I've skipped back & forth through the quest lines & haven't felt any need for an outpost or bespoke ship, though I'll probably attempt both eventually.
At the moment I'm a Captain Ranger Operative Pirate working for Constellation and aspiring to be Starborn. My girlfriends (yes I have two) & I with our trusty crew Barrett & Amelia visit planets helping where we can & kicking ass as necessary to bring justice to the universe. 🙂
As of this post 171.5 hrs in, I am feeling like there is still more to draw out of the game. I guess there are still several temples to find because I haven't got all my powers yet. The NG+ feels like a typical prestige system only with the twist of it being in an RPG. I find the concept behind it fascinating & am really looking forward to it, when I get there, when I feel finished with this life.
See you in the Starfield!
Sounds like you are doing it right! Glad you’re enjoying it!
I wanted to roleplay a outer space version of Kung fu the tv show. Unarmed and a diplomat. So I avoided main quests and just grind side missions. Trying to avoid combat and crimes. No building ships or settlement. With my trusty sidekick (adoring fan) and generous parents (decent gifts). Its all I need on my universe. Social perks are op when combined with certain clothes and alcohol.
What a wonderful idea😂
I haven't rushed. First playthrough is always the best if u explore and take everything in as much as u can, don't watch how to play videos and create your own journey.
And I like natural progression in games, I like challenge and that combats are challenging and not easy walkthroughs and I want upgrade my own ships which I either have got from side missions, stole or bought or build. Thats why I dont think "being all powerfull from start" adds anything to the game. Its like u playing the game in beginner easiest level. Where is the fun?
I will play NG+ after I have done everything I want in my first play through and when I feel like I wanna play the main mission again.
My first playthrough will be always my main game anyhow, whether I start NG+ or not.
That’s a good plan! At the end of the day it’s a game and you should play it how you want!
I just do new game plus when I run out of good quests in my log and save some new stuff for my next run though
I started ng+, and with a heavy heart i said goodbye to my ship, where i grew quite fond of 🥺💔
You’ll get her back. I had the same feeling but I just rebuilt mine in ng+ as a “V.2” and it feels like an old friend but upgraded and with a snazzy “II” at the end of the name haha. Don’t stress you’ll rebuild better than before! Have fun in your NG+!
I just started NG +, I was getting frustrated that I couldn't find the last temples but realized that is because I sided with one or the other. I was level 90 when I started the final mission. I did all of the factions, but Ryujin was glitched and I could never fix it. I sided with the UC over Crimson Fleet, but I realized I missed so much evidence that I could not go back and get because they were locked behind the actual mission parts. Plus my New Atlantis spaceport was a disaster, the ground was glitched out and it was getting annoying. I can confirm that starting NG + fixed that. I haven't decided fully what I am going to do, play fast or take my time, probably I will go halfway on things. I won't waste time on outposts and I probably won't try to build a ship, but I will replay Ryujin for sure to try and finish that, and go through the faction stuff again, maybe this time I will side with the Crimson Fleet, haven't decided on that one yet.
That’s awesome it fixed it for you. I definitely feel like it’s a cool way to do a reset and try new stories or make different decisions but also keep and maintain your build and skill set
One thing that is annoying is when you start new game plus and lose all your inventory. I would understand losing homes or chest items you left in your homes as when you move over you are starting in a new universe. But they could have least allowed you to keep everything thats in your personal inventory, credits, ship cargo and your ships, since your ships are in your inventory as you can see them in your main menu.
It feels like to me it either never play new game plus so you dont lose anything or just do your constellation quests to unlock new game plus and spam that 10 times until you get to new game plus 11 and then put the effort in as you get to keep your stuff. With my first character im not going to play new game plus cause im not losing all my stuff that i work hard for. Im planning on making a 2nd character just do the constellation quests only to unlock new game plus and only do that until i get to new game plus 11.
That seems like a solid plan. I agree it’s odd you can’t keep your inventory or even the ship you are in at the end. I entered ng+ my first time and figured I’d loose everything but at least keep some of that so I was a little annoyed. Partially why I made this video in the first place lol
I’ve done the NG+ 3 times now and can say I will tell the team from now on I’m a starborn and bypass the story.
I did a few times NG+ after getting all powers etc. I do not see many advances. I enjoyed some unique weapons such as the Avatar. The armors are not worth it since you can have higher stats with other 3! legendary armor pieces combined.
Question, I have made many mistakes on my first and second play throughs and want to start over again. Should I wait until Ng+ and do a second reiteration or start over with different traits and background?
That’s really up to you. If you want the absolute cleanest slate you can have and maybe you want to pick some new traits/background for a fresh experience I’d say start over.
If you like your character and your skills and level and your only gripe is with some of your decision making, you could probably just do a NG+ for a clean slate of choices
@@LTEggnog thank you for your thoughts! (And lightning quick response)
I love the idea of NG+, but really not digging losing my ship and all my credits. Done all the faction lines, a few side quests here and there, and am working on collecting all antique and old earth items for my own little "museum". Going to NG+ and keeping only my experience seems....unforgiving for all the work we put in.
I will say it gets easier and easier to build your stuff back up but if you’re really happy with what you built maybe you could try a new character to ply on the side to try out the NG+ and still keep you things. Or a new save
@@LTEggnog well I can happily say I decided to go NG+ and after a short while I had re-amassed a half million credits, a decent gun, and my never-ending ship build Im happy with then all of a sudden need to change for some unknown illogical reason. I will say, Crimson Fleet is the best Evil/Neutral faction to have on your side. The Key is the BEST place to sell anything.
One thing to note, especially if you are on normal difficulty or above, do not stick to your starborn spacesuit & your Guardian ship. The superior Tracker's, Explorer's & Bounty Hunter spacesuits are far superior to any starborn spacesuit. A well built Class C custom ship will outdo the maxed out starborn guardian starship.
Very true! The only benefit I see to sticking to the suit is that it’s an all in one helmet/suit/pack so you can save a ton of weight but that’s not really necessary if you have good stuff. Good points though!
Yup... weight is perhaps the main advantage of sticking to the starborn spacesuit.
Sooo... for all those who rush through 9, 10 NG+ for spacesuits, it's a real kick in the nuts. Not everything in life is about going fast.
More cons than pros for NG+. Only real pro thing is upgrading powers.
I took my time with the first run through and really enjoyed the experience and also did like you said and skipped the main story on my second run to see how it would work and I wont do that again. You miss out on the companions and also it gets grindy really fast.
That’s exactly how I felt
Your the only RUclipsr to mention that moral issue, thought I was the only one hey, it really does change how you view the in game world
It’s a really unique experience that i honestly wonder if it was intentional or not. Either way it makes it feel like great storytelling for the hunter where even the best of people can become a mad man in that kind of situation
I loved the NG+ where I found a violent version of me, who had murdered all of constellation.
I asked him why?
He said he was good for several universes, so he thought he would try something news.
That was quite a moment.
Because he was trading the world like a videogame.
I feel like we’re getting screwed losing everything we’ve built & collected leading up to becoming starborn, we should have known about this in the beginning. I wouldnt have waisted time upgrading my ships, collecting gear, BUYING DIGIPICS EVERYWHERE, loading up on credits 😡. Feels like a dck move to me. I surveyed almost 200 planets… FOR WHAT now? 😡
I dont get u guys that wanna play the same story over n over.
So glad i watched a few of these vids before i went through with the next step! THANK YOU!
No problem glad I could help haha! You can always make a new save or a new character if you want to try it out
I’m thinking I’ll probably skip NG+ on this game. Not worth loosing all the time I put in building a ship I like and I’m starting to get into outposts so don’t want to loose that either. Hopefully they will rethink NG+ in a future update.
No need to feel obligated if you aren’t interested! Whatever you enjoy doing is what you should do
I restarted the first time afer I went int oNG+ th reason was becsaue one of he main quests was stuck and know matter what I did I couldnt get past it or for tha tmatter even enter my ship so it was either go back to 12hours before ( for some reason al autosave over writen most my previous saves ) I used a cheat code to finish the quest but by doing so my achievemt stayed the ame . so istarted a new player and the exact same thign happened late in game on a main quest so I used tha tcode again but this time I went into ng+ have been playing a while doign quests inever did before but my achiements are stayimng the same so I may need to delete all my previous saves and start new for a 3rd time I may rush through the main story just to see if the quests get stcuk again if not iwill go into NG+ the start there or imay rush it a couple more times just so I can aquire all the powers t osee which I like the start the rest of the side quests . it is frustrating though besue I have over 200hrs and my achieves have been stuick at 27 since mid sept its now oct 05 2023
Ahh that’s so annoying I’m sorry! I haven’t heard of that glitch. I hope you can figure it out!
I entered NG+, stole the first c class ship I happened upon (for large cargo) and then flew out to the red zone and didn’t re-emerge for 20 hours or so.
I find it very interesting , no one apart from Bethesda knows the full run down for NG+, given all those who have done it 10 times, many, if not all. Have yet to see anyone do a exact same run and have exact same things happen, more so the game took 27 years in development, I strongly believe rushing NG+ is the biggest mistake anyone can do in terms of immersiveness and what the game has to offer, History of Bethesda and the future, I can't believe they'd take so long ina games development only to have players rush through NG+ or atleast 10 times literally rendering you unable to have a full experience of the game . A bit more to it but hats off to all those who have grinded this game harder than any coffee grinder ever grinded anything.
The game didn’t take 27 years it was just an idea Todd had for 27 years the development started after fallout 4 so it was more like 8-7 years of development which is still a long time
I'm going to have to do NG+ Due to broken quest chains that weren't fixed in the update.
That stinks. What glitches did you have?
I'm on level 7 of all my powers and don't play as much as I did in the beginning. I was just trying to max out everything then actually play the game. 😂 I still get on every once in a while and do a few more temples. I think I have 8 or 9 left on 7
Yeah it definitely takes some of the oomph out of the game I think
Can you upgrade weapons etc in the ng+ starborn ship?
I don’t believe so no. It’s a decent starter ship and it’s cool but you can definitely build better/more functional
I'm doing a different faction playthrough for each ng+
That’s the way to do it I think!
I'm on game 3 of 10 and I will have that Hunter suit.
It is pretty sick😂
When do these alternate universes start? Im on like NG+ 4 and its still the same.
I think like 5-6
thank you Lt. Eggnog o7
No problem glad I could help!
I have about 150hrs, multiple base's, ships, gear set's, hard saved in various points in the story, and just skipped to the end today. Well now I have my original BH, freelancer, character and a Starborn. Tbh not sure what I'm going to do, as a Starborn it feels you have one objective.
At least now you have options to try things out!
I'm getting to New game plus 10. Then I'll build outposts. I speed run the main story because skipping it is kinda boring. Plus you can go the story really fast, and it gives you something to do besides grinding temples 25 times lol.
I don’t get how people are even getting to the point of doing NG+ …. There’s so much content.
Yeah I sort of just got caught up in the main story around level 25ish and just kinda rolled through but I still sometimes feel like I’ve barely scratched the game. Lots left to do!
I decided to go back to a save before NG+ after a couple minutes. I want to work through more skill levels to take into NG+, try out some stuff while I have my custom ships and money, and then go through a few NG+es without collecting anything I would loose anyway. Then I'll settle down and start building my empire, at the end of which it is all going to be boring and I play Elite Dangerous again 😂 or Star Citizen, if it ever releases.
I think new game plus is worth it overall, you get improved powers, a really cool looking suit (I still think the first one is the best), a ship that's really cool but not good overall (you can build a ship 100 times better, mostly due to the poor solar weapon on the Guardian ship), the Trader and new dialogue options. BUT if you've already built a ton of outposts or built some cool ships I'd definitely hesitate. The powers are already pretty good even on the first level and the ship and suit you get, especially at NG+1, aren't that strong. The suit gets pretty OP the further you go (and the powers get crazy strong), but the ship will never be that good despite how cool it looks (plus it goes invisible when you boost and the torpedoes slow down enemy ships so it has some cool perks, but the weapon damage is horrible).
Weapons get better the higher you level up so they're good right away in NG+, plus you keep all your skills, levels and research and you remember the planets you've been to (so you can go to Cydonia, Akila and Neon right away). You make money fast selling stuff you pick up (especially weapons), so just go to Neon and sell everything after each mission. At first I thought the new dialogue was lame, but there's one really big moment that made it worth it. I won't say more, just always pick the Starborn dialogue options whenever they're available.
I redid the Constellations storyline in my first NG+ and then speedran NG+2 and NG+3 before settling on NG+4 to really take my time with it (always get all the Powers every NG+ btw). I picked 4 because I think the Starborn suits that have the cloaks are ugly and NG+4 has a really cool suit. If you don't care about the suits consider settling on NG+6 for the fully ramped up Guardian if you like that ship because that's its top level. NG+8 has the last non-cloaked Guardian suit so if you are willing to grind that long that's not a bad one either.
My only last thought is that you have to play the God awful Entangled mission again if you don't skip the main missions and that's one of the worst designed missions in the history of gaming in spite of the cool premise.
Thanks for sharing your take! I agree it’s pretty worth it overall!
I'm just over 200hrs in the game and have not done NG+. There is SOOOOO much to do and not even close to finishing. No way I'm resetting yet.
That’s perfectly fine I think! I’m in my NG+3 and I feel the same. Still so much I haven’t done yet!
@@LTEggnog Have you gotten a chance to do all the Faction stuff? Don't sleep on the Vanguard quest line. The first mission is a straight horror film.
@ChitChat I havnt yet, I am actually in the middle of the vanguard story and I’m really liking it! I have this one and freestar left (I’m playing through everything on this playthrough and exploring the game fully) loving it so far!
@@LTEggnog Nice dude. I enjoy taking it slow. But Sarah is annoying me and a NG+ is probably the best break up excuse rather than awkwardly hanging around my ship with my new gf.
@ChitChat yeah Andreja all day Sarah is always mad about something 😂
I wanted to be like Kang, and conquer each planet as I hopped universes…but since you can only build 20ish outposts and don’t become a faction leader, there’s no way to “conquer” the galaxy unfortunately. So yeah I’m a pirate now
😂 that’s a solid alternative. Just rack up the biggest bounties you can in each universe. Multiversal pirate sounds fun haha
If its a multiverse you should be allowed to keep going on your own universe. How is DLC going to be if you lose your normal character
I do wonder how they are going to do dlc in this game with the way they set it up
what i want to know is .. does the system levels increase in NG+ or is AC still level 01 system because personally i want the worlds to be harder in NG+ so that my character has to continue to level up and have a good way to do it outside of cheating like every youtuber did before complaining that the game wasnt fun for them
I need to pay more attention to the systems Im in but I’ve found overall, at least in the factions and some bounties, the enemies levels scale with me and their gear for sure does
So if I do a dungeon or bounty or whatever, most of the enemies will be around my level and then the boss will be 10-20 levels ahead of me usually
Doing my first NG+ and not feeling that much of a difference, basically doing what I did in my first run with some different choices. The thing is that too much is lost and the powers, well, I never use them apart from the "breathing" power which I use constantly.
You do keep your research as well which is important, the only reason I stuck with NG+ and didn´t start a new game.
Some of the powers are pretty useful but I don’t use many. I really like the create vacuum ability, the clone, the duplicate, the ice ball, the two gravity moves, time slow and the invisibility though. I think the beam and the life steal could be good when upgraded more.
The powers can give the combat a new feel of you want to switch it up though!
@@LTEggnog 100% On NG+5 and the powers is the game. Cloaking while sniping or any of the "good" powers literally change up the game. Time freeze is good when it works (needs a patch). Overall you get addicted to your powers to the point you use them as much as your gun. I have powers in my wheel in stead of weapons as you cycle between them. Just getting into the moon form it's really good if you know when to use it. I play on "very hard" so you cannot just run into a room of 50 npc's and hope to live. Powers levels that play field.
12 years later, and Bethesda's made us the Dragonborn all over again.
But in space ;)
Perhaps they name it something similar even, perhaps we are starborn. Fus-ro-gravwave
Fus-ro-gravwave XD@@Prof.GoodFeels88
@@Prof.GoodFeels88 lol
I don't pick up junk on new game plus or food items etc my first playrhrough I had like 50 storage containers full of resources and ships full of crap just sell it or drop it all now
Honestly, my biggest gripe with the game is the new game plus. On some level, It almost makes beating the game feel pointless. I’d like ONE new game plus. But infinitely resetting your story just makes everything you do seem kinda… meaningless. I’m really surprised more people don’t feel this way…
You can spend countless hours making outposts, ships, relationships, story arcs… all for… nothing? …. Ok lol
That's literally the lesson the game is supposed to teach you. LITERALLY in the Pilgrim's writings.
Yeah........ F that, ima keep my 1st run and build my empire
@@VelaiciaCreator ok, but how is that supposed to be fun? It’s still extremely bad writing. And just a bad idea in general. Only a sadist could find this smart or compelling lol.
@@Reclaimer116 You must be a normie then. Toddle along if it bothers you or doesn't suit your basic taste and lack of imagination.
Is there a cost to do new game plus?
Nothing outside of what is described in the video
I'm a bounty hunter, a tracker...I don't care about travelling to alternative universes. I don't gain anything from it, on the contrary...I lose all my hard earned equipment that I got by hunting bounties and selling stuff that I looted while tracking them. This is the way.
See you Space Cowboys.
You can get all 24 powers each time.
I've invested too much time in my first run, I'm not doing ng+ it's not worth it to me
I think you can still have a great experience without it so you should t feel like you have to. You could always make a. We save or a new character to try it out sometime if you are curious!
And thanks for the vid. My comment is directed to players in general and not any 1 YT video or person etc.
Thank you for watching and I appreciate your take/insight! I do agree rushing through the game really undermines a lot of the great aspects of the game. My intent was just to explain it as clearly as possible with as few spoilers as possible because there’s a lot of different takes and confusion and mystery with NG+ but I agree the game is best played when played deeply I think
Con: Losing my stuff.
Pro: Never having to talk to Constellation again.
Also, unlike previous Bethesda titles, there isn't much distinction between characters at the mechanical level. I used to love making new characters in previous titles. With Starfield, they all sort of converge into very samey builds. NG+ is kind of a solution for the lingering zero character in the "Zero to Hero" journey.
solving 250 times the same puzzle sound extremely boring to me. What were the developers thinking?
? You mentioned you were going to say something about the trader and never did..
I said it was in my last video:) check it out and I explain it all for you there!
I gave up on NG1 after L41 found it boring so restarted the game. Won't be doing starborn again
The cool part is you can choose not to and still get a lot out of the game!
NG+ is having to play the story all over again. I only play for the story.
Im at NG+10 and now replaying the full story, even managed to save all Constellation members and re marry Sarah :)
Sounds like it’s come full circle!
So once you hit ng+10 will the universe ever be close to the first one? I’d speed run through as well if I knew at the end I could replay the entire story, faction quests, and have Andreja as a companion
I really didn't like losing so much...I think you should atleast keep some more things.
I thought you’d at least keep you inventory and your ship which was a little disappointing but after a little bit it didn’t bother me anymore
Give up my fleet of awesome custom-built ships, my network of money printing outposts, my smokeshow Varu’un spy wife, my NA penthouse, my arsenal of upgraded weapons and gear, in exchange for a pretty mid space suit and a mid af ship? Hard pass.
Do credits carry over
They don’t but I wouldn’t worry too much about that. As you get higher leveled and progress, the rewards scale so you’ll make it back faster and faster. Ex. I got 20k one time just for the first “finding constellation” at the lodge one time at like level 35 ish
@@LTEggnog nice I just unlocked C-Class ships but I was worried about going into Unity as I wanted to be able to buy one. Thank you
Yes when you go to NG+ you'll still have access to class C ships as well but you will lose YOUR ships. First time I did it I thought I'd at least keep the ship I was flying so I was a bit let down/surprised. If you can find a class C early in a NG+ or buy one you will be able to use it at least. Good luck, glad i could help!@@x_bot117
I'll only do it when I have exhausted every aspect of the game. Maybe in a year or two. I have too much money and cool ships I don't want to give up. You can't even customize the Starboard ships! Xbox users will get mods next year. That will be the real New Game +
As much as I love the base game, I am really pumped to see where the community can take this game with mods!
My issue is that we somehow lose our knowledge of the starfield. 😢
What do you mean?
If I could keep my credits I’d say it as worth it
I wouldn’t worry too much about the credits. As you level your rewards scale and you earn it back faster and faster
240 temple runs is not going to be fun. Considering new game instead of ng+
No interest in becoming Starborn. Maybe if the other version of myself in the unity had said if I became Starborn and kept cycling through universes I would one day meet the Creators. That might at least have been a legitimate reason to consider doing it. But he didn't say that. So no.
To each their own! If you aren’t interested I don’t see any reason you should feel obligated. Just play how you want and you can always either make a new character or save to try it out some day if you want
My version said i may meet them someday, so defs worth giving it a shot
the hell with all this...why lose everything for a crappy ship and crappy armor, ya no way !! I build the best ship you can build have some best legendary armor i dont understand why anyone would reset and lose everything just for a few dialog changes LOL
I will say the armor is statistically some of the best armor in the game and it also is an all in one so it’s a suit/helmet/and back which cuts your weight down a ton. Also you gain your money and loot back much faster as you go and level and it all scales with you.
Not trying to persuade you, you should play how you want! But it’s not as bad as it sounds. You can always make a new character to try it or a second save too.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts though!
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To me it feels lazy and pointless. If I want to do it all over again, I would make a new character. And in a game about exploration if feels weird to use your knowledge and power to go into a new reality that is essentially the same as the old one, rather than exploring rest of the galaxy you are already in.
You definitely raise some good points there. I think it’s just about becoming as powerful as you possibly can be it but idk how necessary that is
@@LTEggnog sure, but since those powers are barely useful at all, what's the point? The gadget you get from Ryujin is far more useful than all powers save one (the oxygen one is extremely useful what with all the overloading).
Since you can beat the game on very hard with a common beowulf , not even a blue one. The powers seem irrelevant to me.
Although fun to use they have little to no combat necessity to beat the game on very hard.
Find a common beowulf , put some particle weapons on your ship. Beat very hard 1000 times , rinse repeat.
Game is made for brain dead morons like myself.
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Lol I turned into the hunter on my first playthrough! Started off eager, making ships, exploring, enjoyed it at first, then got a bit bored, tried quests, got even more bored, then frustrated, then completely impatient, then absolutely annoyed and blasted my way to the end in god mode, skipping all dialog and combat.
I did 140+ hours, main quest, crimson fleet, vanguard, a bit of freestar and plenty of radiant quests.
This game is not my thing, it's not really an rpg like people say. You're very much stuck on the path of the quest most of the time, and the choices are very limited and often idiotic. The main story is unbearable. I miss the ability to take matters into your own hands like in fallout 4, where you can just kill father, or the Railroad, or Nukaworld. Here I cannot just show up at the Key, or the lodge, and go in guns blazing... doesn't work. Not that I want to just murder everyone but you cannot betray them, or refuse them outright... which is super frustrating imo.
I'm kinda sad about it, it's a very beautiful game but the quests make no sense, the dialog is torture, and it's just unsatisfying in the end, for me. I'd have to role play a completely gullable fool for the game to make any sense 🤣. The only quest that I did kinda like was the Terramorphs quest... but even there i just skipped ALL the dialog. Yet I somehow knew exactly what was going on as if I hadn't skipped a thing 🤣
As for ng+, I spent so much time making awesome ships there's no way I'm leaving that behind lol. And those powers are really not worth the hassle. I mean if I want space magic I'll play Star Wars Fallen Order.
I'm waiting for mods to see if they can fix the game. I do wanna retry the game, but not in this state.
I know for a fact that the instant the Creation Kit comes out, I'm making a mod where I can stop the main quest and tell constellation to shove it, or just hand over the artefacts to the star born... and have the ability to betray Delgado and give Kryx legacy to Ikande when doing the pirate quest (After having refused deep cover initially)... or just make Delgado killable... etc...
Pro : you can skip stuff
Con : you are playing Starfield
I am at whatever 7d16h is... 24 x 7 +16 = 184 hours? The game is breaking more and more often in ore and more hilariously rage inducing ways. Current huge bug = Permenant Slow motion that only allows you to shoot your gun 1 time and then you need to swap guns. Also if you jump, you are now floating in air. Would not allow me to fast travel since you cannot fast travel while falling 😮
Luckily once I entered my ship and landed again, slow motion became low frame rate. I am talking 6-12 FPS. Turning the game of and restarting the XBSX fixed it. Only took 30 minutes. Awesome game Todd you loser
Interesting 🤔 I’ve been playing on series s since the pre order and I haven’t had any issues yet
@@LTEggnog I have had a TON of issues. Ship took off and took the city with it, when the city disappeared in space, it must have left the trade Authority kiosk in space because it was missing for the next 130+ hours. NG+ it came back. My city developed a fissure in the ground where I could jump down beneath the city. Luckily it happened AFTER they patched looting NPC chests from under the ground HAHAHA. I had all of the sound playing like 1000 samples at once so every word sounded like a demonic modulated voice from Cyber Hell. I have a clip but need to learn how to put it on RUclips. I have had all the UC security guards walking around without clothing on in their underwear for a week. NG+ seems to have fixed that. Lots of other stuff. this is just the stuff I can remember off the top of my head. Oh I was one of the lucky folks who had all of their ships cargo disappear from their ship as well. 2080kg of cargo gone, including all of my Legendary armor and weapons. turns out not a big deal as NG+ deletes all that anyways. sadly it happened when I only had 2 powers so about 22 powers before NG+
Your greed for being relevant before the hype leaves and giving out wrong information is why you have 18k views and only 300 likes. Your video hurts starfield. Every time you beat a universe and move to the next it's a complete new story, new interactions, same areas but it's a new universe. Let that sink in for a min. Your rush through a game made you miss the diamond of story and interactions. 😂😂😂😂
Someone clearly didn’t watch the entire video. Bozo
The biggest con is losing your sanity playing through this game over and over again without mods. Give it a year for quest mods to really kick off and save your sanity, the vanilla game is borderline garbage
So basically the whole game is pointless because everything you build up gets wiped.....over and over.
Had I known this before I bought it I would NOT HAVE.