@user-rz1qv8dt1p Is your fuel tank explosion proof? Since gas cars are over 10 x more likely to catch fire I hope for you they are. Unless you're kind of suicidal.
@user-rz1qv8dt1p that's ok, fool, good luck to you, just don't have any baby, or the world will be in trouble 🙏. Enough of my time. "Do not correct a fool, or he will hate you; correct a wise man, and he will appreciate you."
I have mine in Greece for 2 monthe and 4300kms. I have to say the same. Last week we took the 2403 update. Dont switch off nothing either. I enjoy the car everyday. With the update I felt it more good at handling. My longest journey was 450km, with speed from 130 to 170 per hour. Did one stop for 20min and off I go... With 42 deegres.. I want to have the lane keeping change as you mentioned and the navigation to take in considetarion the battery Level and the destination so it can tell you where to stop. Also as you said the roof here in Greece in hot summer dont getting hot.. Hope you get 11kw as we have here in Europe... Cheers from Greece. George
Thanks for sharing your experience from Greece! Try this fix for decent EV trip planning: A Better Route Planner Live Data OBD2 Review in BYD Seal Apple CarPlay ruclips.net/video/WYRc0o7n8Sk/видео.html
Funny you should mention EVs in Greece. Heading over next month and hiring a car for a two-day return trip from Athens to Chalcis, where we intend to intend to drive around Euboea for those two days. However, looks like the EV infrastructure in Euboea is very minimal, with the public chargers which do exist limited to 20 MW stations. Does that sound right in your experience of charging in Greece? Also, hiring a car for a day to drive around Crete later in the trip. Efharisto
@@jarrodf_ Hello ...In Euboea indeed there are no DC public chargers, only in chalkis some AC's. I would recommend to hire a non EV car....But if you can arrange with your hotel to have it charged at nighttime, then wouldnt be a problem.........But again in order to enjoy the vacation there.....No EV for me in that situation! Again in Crete for a full day of driving, although there are chargers, i would gt again for a non EV car..In my situation ( I live in Ioannina, and i have i house at the island called Lefkada, where also there arent DC chargers) i charge at home every other night...So in both situation i wouldnot go for an EV.....I hope you have a great vacation!!!!
@g_liout3923 Efharisto poli. Yes, that was my conclusion, too. (Ended up going with an Audi A4 (manual) - which was surprisingly cheap, relative to others, at ~€250 for 2 daya)... Otherwise, I'm sure an EV in Athens it would be fine, but as you say, probably a bit of a challenge outside, travelling on longer road trips... Thanks again. Certainly very much looking forward. Yassou
I have been watching BYD for a while now. We have a KIA EV6 AWD which is a great car, but for our 2nd car, I am waiting for the BYD Shark to hit our shores. With BYD now adding 800VDC architecture and increased LFP Blade capacity in the 2025 models, I would not be surprised if BYD becomes the market leader in Australia.
V2L is another huge plus of this vehicle. I had a 5-hour power outage this week and was able to power my living room as normal from my Seal and carry on with what I was doing, with TV etc. in the background (while the rest of the neighbourhood was in pitch-black darkness). V2L also means I've been able to get rid of all my gas gear and go fully electric (induction hob, lights, fridge, coffee machine) for day trips and car-camping. Although the car REALLY needs a 'CAMPING MODE' where it can continuously supply 12 VDC (for fridge) and 5 VDC (USB) when the car is locked/unattended - powered from the more efficient DC-DC converter rather than the inefficient DC-AC inverter. (Just having the V2L adapter plugged into the car, even with no 240VAC devices plugged in, uses ~2kWh per day, which is a high overhead when just charging a phone or running an efficient 240VAC/12VDC fridge).
🤪The maximum power of BYD V2L is 6KW, which is more than enough to support the electricity consumption of the entire house. What fascinating circuit and battery technology.
Good review Tom, your reviews are worth a lot more than most, because you review it based on the way you use it, which is how most people use an EV. Not just endless twisty roads, with an over reliance on a cars handling as well as efficiency measures and range estimates that are only based on highway speed driving.
@@LudicrousFeed be interested to see how its going in 3 to 5 years time if you still have it , while it is interesting to see how they run at 6 months or a year , they are still basically brand new , long term tells more of a story you know what I mean . the teslas don't have a jack and spare wheel , are the BYD models equipped with a spare ? some people are not fussed by not having a spare , but to me it is a deal breaker .
Glad you are still happy with the Seal, Tom. I just viewed the Sealion and am excited for the Sealion 7 to come. The one thing I liked in the Sealion interior over the Seal is that the driver’s display is in a proper visor rather than being plonked on top of the dash like an afterthought.
Good to hear that there are no regrets Tom :) I bought my Performance knowing about the Telsa Supercharger network issue, it wasn't a deal breaker then, but very glad to hear that it's going to be attended to. Charging by solar is good though our solar system is coming on 9 years old now, has paid for itself well & truly but would need an upgrade to be more efficient with the car charging. As it is, we have single phase wiring at home (coming on 70 year old house) & without rewiring the house, the best the installed wallcharger will do is about 4kw (better than the trickle charger) at 20amps, so not going to hit that 7kw max the Seal can take. Again, it's how the house is wired, a known issue, not a deal breaker & has never made me have to run down to a local DC charger. Just needs a bit of active manual monitoring during the day when working from home (eg., taking advantage of a daylight free period from my energy retailer) & setting up the midnight to 6am charge as needed. The only issue I have with the Seal isn't mine but that of my partner who is in the market for a car now that her Audi has had the last rites, but she won't look at an EV, despite her acknowledged comfort & performance of the Seal as a passenger, she wants gears, tactile dials & analogue speedo etc, not touchscreens & digital displays. That's another battle for another day, lol. So I knew what I was getting when I put the order in just before Christmas last year & how the car is 5 months later after delivery has only gotten better :) And when 2403 is installed & the Supercharging fix installed, it will be better again. Think of how many other cars you can hand on heart say are better 6 months after you bought them (without spending a lot of money in aftermarket parts), that would be a very small list
@@rob1733 I touch on it briefly toward the end of this video: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html - you will need a solar charger such as the Ocular IQ Home with a power meter equipped with CT clamps to your home solar inverter. I’ll do a dedicated follow up vid shortly …
Been very happy with my Premium after just over a month (minus a few days at the panelbeaters after copping a scratch at the school drop-off). I usually listen to podcasts on the way to/from work so the sound system hasn’t bothered me although even for music I find it “good enough”. Just tipped over 1500km and looking forward to heading to south west WA for a few nights next week.
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom! Happily the other party waited around to give me their details, and since we were both with the same insurer it was easy to sort it. And luckily for me there’s an EV specialist repairer 3km from home who not only had it done in three days, they charged up my car. Never had a full tank of petrol from a panel beater or garage!
Thanks for the video. I also bought a BYD Seal a few months ago (I am resident of Brazil). Great car. Loving it. The ICC I turned off before it'd drive me mad.
I like the seal it looks like a proper car, a lot of EV cars look pretty silly. If i hadn't planned to do something else, i would have looked at buying one of these Seal performance cars.
I notice that few people ever comment on this but an absolute deal breaker for me in not getting a Tesla Model 3 was the lack of a front camera!! Further the lack of indicator stalks and a front panel while not deal breakers pushed me to get the Seal Premium which has all these things and more (HUD). The only things I prefer about the Tesla are its auto-park and FSD both which are unavailable in the Seal.
The reason why I bought a Tesla was due to their Supercharger network. I've never been disappointed when arriving at a supercharger. I've tried some other chargers and most are working. But when they're out of order it can be very stressful.
Thank you for your detailed reviews - your earlier ones definitely helped us take the plunge and get a Seal with the novated lease. Such great value and a real pleasure to drive. Lots of people at work very interested in the car with many questions (and compliments!).
I had my 3 month service 2 months ago and I am still chasing up weekly for a warranty fix (couple of hardware issues). It’s great that most people’s experience with their seal has been positive. But when you actually have a problem with your seal, their communication is horrendous.
Sorry to hear this and hopefully you get it sorted soon 🙏
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I am owning a BYD Dolphin since 10 months (23,000 km) and I am very impressed about the quality. My complaints are also the software and ADAS, which is quite over-sensitive. I heard, that the Seal is better. But I will try lane-keep-assist again after seeing your video.
@@morganangel340 When I say ADAS, I’m not really referring to the ICC (although that’s not great either) - it was more to do with the lane keeping and emergency braking alerts/manoeuvres during regular driving that were initially potentially dangerous - this has now been rectified thankfully
Done 5000kms in my Seal RWD. Off late the drivers seat seems to have gotten really uncomfortable, it has started to feel hard and I no end each drive with a lower back pain which I never had before. Tried adjusting the lumbar support but it just seems dig into my back. Seems fine for short journeys but anything over than 30 mins or so and I am not looking forward any more. Are there others who are experiencing similar issues ?
Currently looking at my first EV purchase and seriously considering the Seal. Videos like this are really helpful, particularly hearing about software updates that have been made. Thanks for taking the time to provide an update
I appreciate your point on the audio. Using the Dynaudio position tool I've needed to position the audio to around 3 ticks away from the absolute rear of the car and 1 tick to the left. I run Wavelet (though I'm sure there are non sideload alternatives for EQ with android auto) to balance out the audio better across channels to what I could hear...kinda left mids and pumped bass and more importantly treble. Finally pumped the treble to 9, mids at 3/2 (depending on the mood), left bass at 0 and lowered subbass to -2. Probably should check my car instead of guessing all this. I think it sounds somewhat respectable now, but doing radical changes and one sideload seems a bit much.
@@LudicrousFeed since my test drive a few months ago, audio on seal was a deal breaker. Even my Camry hybrid SL has a better and much crisp and loud audio than seal
My experience 5 months in with the seal premium is similar to yours. Now about 11000km on the clock as a daily commuter Wollongong to Sydney and my only real gripe (aside from the traffic sign alerts, thank god I will be able to turn that off permanently soon!) is also the ICC. It has most definitely improved significantly from the suicidal state it was in originally and I am comfortable enough to use it on a straightish road, but a big issue I still have is that when you change lanes with ICC on it will assertively turn the wheel to (over-)"correct" your position in the lane (and then complain that you're out of the lane when it does over-correct), so need to make sure I have a prepared grip on the wheel. Otherwise amazing car, and I hope they keep iterating on that ICC as it has a lot of potential.
I also have the Seal Premium and am very pleased with it so far. My only issue is the seat position selection as me and my wife use it daily. It would be good to have a simple button on the seat for option 1 & 2 rather than digging through menus.
This South African approves of your videos. I just wish BYD can launch the Seal here, so far we have the Dolphin and the Atto3. R899990 the asking price for the Atto3.
@@thetad1242 you'll thank the SA government for slapping so much taxes on this car to protect BMW and MB manufacturers selling more locally than the export prices
I noticed in my update yesterday, my audio reactive lighting now works with wireless Android Auto. It used to be static lighting unless i switched to bluetooth or radio. Small things but definitely moving forward
So, I should put the ADAS fuses back in and give it a go? I might do that tomorrow and see how it goes. It's been nice driving a car that hasn't tried to do anything crazy I must say. I'm still a bit cautious about giving it control, but I'll see what can be turned off and kept off now.
@@LudicrousFeed Is yours the performance model? If so, does yours have the overly loud pump noise in the front when charging? I did a video on that, but still haven't got onto BYD to look into it. The K-Mart service guys aren't really BYD specialists, so they didn't know anything about it. I'd say it's a coolant pump, but it really shouldn't be loud.
Hi Tom, thanks for sharing the long term experience. One q, with the AC do you leave it swing automatically or you keep changing settings? Is it good enough in automatic swing?
Lovely review, Tom! I've been checking out all your RUclips videos, and I'm a big fan. I booked my BYD Seal Premium after seeing your reviews. Just like you, I went for the White and BYD Premium. Thanks for the detailed videos! :) Quick question: Can we remove the middle passenger headrest in the back? I didn't check this during my test drive here in India.
That six months seems to have flown by ! Must admit , I am not sure which I prefer the look of as far as the new M3 or BYD Seal goes . Perhaps the seal by a whisker. As far as my EV journey goes , I am still waiting for the Livewire to be repaired after the bump it got in February. I have also received the first power bill since having the Model 3 SR+ , $379.29 with no special EV Tarif or working PV solar system (my solar system stoped working in February). I have travled about 3100km in that time. The car that the M3 replaced for daily duties drank 95 or 98 RON at a rate of 13.5 to 14L per 100 km , it was costing me over $100 a week to feed.
I concur with the ADAS improvements. With the last update, I'm so happy that the speed sign warnings can be turned off permanently now. My main remaining gripe is that wireless Android Auto can cut in and out. Otherwise, very pleased with my Seal.
Not gonna lie, the Tesla Supercharger network is almost essential for alleviating EV range anxiety where available - whether it be Tesla, BYD or other brand
@@connorfoutras3891 I’d like to review the Aus release first before making an educated call. Release will be close when they start discounting current inventory lol
How are the led headlights at night? I am used to Matrix led headlights in my cars, so would be nice if updated BYDs started including Matrix led headlights like Tesla and not just standard led.
Here’s my original comparison: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html But keep in mind the Seal has undergone a few OTA updates and is a better car than what it was at delivery
@@LudicrousFeed also look very premium. I just bought a ix3 BMW for my wife, I would have preferred the seal but she likes the SUV style and sitting up higher.
Test drove a Model 3 Highland RWD last week and loved it.... However... I did miss having a stalk for an indicator and I can see how it would be problematic making consecutive opposite turns and trying to indicate via buttons. Sadly, having to make these sorts of quick turns is a part of my daily commute. I also found that having to glance to the side at the screen to check my speed was a pain. I'm a traditionalist and do want a console in front of me. A HUD would also be awesome and it looks like the Seal provides this. The more I see about the Seal, and watching your videos, I'm beginning to wonder if I take a chance on the BYD Seal instead of the Model 3 as my first EV.
Will be interesting what the mid-cycle refresh brings, would hope they fix the 7kW AC and up that to 11kW AC. How are the tyres or does the Seal come with the Conti EcoContact 6 already? Also improvements in infotainment system would be good didn't know about the sound system, was never sure what it was like and not a huge sound guy myself I just usually take whatever the manufacturer provides and goes with it. Would you look at selling it say at the 12 month mark and perhaps a XPeng G6 with its crazy charge curve and can see how it compares to the Seal, different class of car obviously being a CUV vs a Sedan I realise.
@@LudicrousFeed both brand new. Its a genuine question. I was fixated on Seal until i went to test drive tesla and knowing the price.. Now i am so confused
It’s a difficult question to answer because the price point is important … but if you want me to answer a hypothetical, I’d say: If you’re after software/UX/app integration: go Tesla; if you’re after aesthetics/build/ride comfort/phone protection: go BYD
I recently posted my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html
In Australia, it depends on where and when you charge … Scenario 1: At home, if you’re charging from solar - it’s essentially 5c/kWh x ~15-17 kWh/100km efficiency = 75-85c Scenario 2: Specialised EV plan (Origin, Ovo, AGL) - 8c/kWh x ~15-17kWh/100km = $1.20-$1.36 Scenario 3: Public DC charging can be up to ~80c/kWh x 15-17kWh = $12-$13.60 And everything in between!
Glad you asked! 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html And then follow my channel’s rabbit hole …
Ever ran into rapid gate when the fastcharging drops to 80 from 150 when the battery hits 52C? Haven’t tested it fully in mine yet but seen some reviewers noticing this. Agree with you on the sound, it needs more clarity and precense in mids and highs. Lane keeping is ok but as a previous tesla owner I totaly agree with you. Highway no problems for me but yeah others roads are hit or miss.
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah I will go on a long trip next week and will test on the Ionity 400kW chargers, over powered yes sir. Seen car pulling 152-153 and reporting 149,2 into battery for a 25% charge so no way near getting hot during such a short charge session. My v3/v4 was fix with the 1.1 release so maby the hardware was already there. 1.2 now here in Sweden so just got the wireless apple car play, 🥳
Can you comment on the suspension please? I own 2022 modelY and despite loving so many things about the car I simply feel the suspension is well below the standard.
Thanks for sharing. Heard that the sealion 6 BYD is having a bad body roll on cornering , and that the tyres should be replaced to better ones. ! Is it true ? I am comparing it to Kia sportage and Hyundai. Thanks
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib I had a quick walkthrough and test drive of the SL7 in China recently: BYD Sea Lion 7 | BYD Shark 6 | Denza Z9 | Fang Cheng Bao 5 Test Drives ruclips.net/video/-2tuhFy5W7E/видео.html
The lease on my ICE car is ending early next year. Got the option to pay the balloon and keep the car or sell it and get a new car. Thinking of a change like an EV car which make sense on a new lease as there is currently no GST on EV and there is FBT exemption, that is the repayment is 100% deducted before taxable income for the duration of the lease which considerably reduce the cost of the EV. On the other side i have to think if its better to have an ICE or EV vehicle in terms of battery safety, ongoing cost (Insurance, Servicing, battery replacement etc.). Too much to think about for someone who hasn't drive an EV yet. While i have no doubt Tesla engineering is top notch, I kinda find inside a bit boring. I would prefer to have a Heads up display which i'm use to with my current car and also the console behind the steering wheel. I don't want to take my eyes off the road to watch the centre console everytime how fast i'm going. People say you'll get use to it but I don't think I will. Hopefully Model Y Juniper will bring some changes to my liking. If it is, then Tesla will be my first choice, otherwise will look into other model. I have been looking the Polestar 4 and will be interested to see what Xpeng and Sealion has to offer. Any good advice from you Tom?
Just out of curiosity. You get any form of compensation from Chinese Manufacturers/ EV companies? Nothing wrong with that but it should be disclosed. Cheers.
Seems like a great car, but why are we accepting the ability to turn off a feature a "fix" for it. If the speed limit detection is wrong and keeps beeping, a proper fix should be to make it more accurate, not turn it off. I still find the UI to be a bit convoluted and unintuitive. I hope they somehow adopt the new CarPlay 2.0 or significantly make the experience better.
Cheers, I along with many of our viewers have mentioned it in my other Seal vids - I didn’t want to labour the point. Some passengers actually find OPD uncomfortable with the harsher braking so I don’t personally think it’s a deal breaker. I usually turn it off anyway in some of the other press cars I’ve driven eg Hyundai Ioniq 5
We where talking about vampire drain during parking and it hit me that the doesn’t seem to suffer from this like the teslas and others. How’s yours doing?
If you bought a car that is post March-2024 build then your Seal will be compatible and therefore not require an upgrade. Full details: ruclips.net/video/w48zBLjv3g8/видео.html
He actually quite likes the car. His criticism was very specific, related to the lack of adequate cooling of the battery during DC fast charging. That said, the overall average charge rate for the Seal during his test was still high enough to have it rank reasonably well across all the cars he has tested.
@@vasil7410 I haven't watched his 1000km challenge yet, but I noticed in the other test he did recently the temnparature of the battery cells as an average between the minimum and maximum was probably lower than the Tesla over the charging curve, it was also only marginally slower to fully charge it compared to the NMC long range Tesla. When he craps on about rapid gating whenever he tests BYD products it just seems like a bit of an overreach and beatup to me. Tesla's whilst they don't charge particulalrly quickly are very efficient though so will travel further on a given charge which is also critical in the 1000km review.
My ICC is pretty good AWD model production month: 2024 April. But I got range issue. On eco mode highway 80% city 20%. Battery 100%-25% did just 300km. Basically Geelong-Melbourne-Mornington-Melbourne
Hey mate, I've been trawling your Seal videos but I can't see any comment comparing driving visualization preview? Trying to decide between keeping my Ora or switch to Seal (although ex 3 owner).
No sadly not ... Watch my video: ruclips.net/video/INuMazD5vLA/видео.htmlsi=vxI8jLXaEXTA44Vn&t=382 The 'front car' is just a static image to toggle the distance to follow the car ahead
@@LudicrousFeed that's strange because even the Ora has side and back views although you have to turn it on.. sure we're not missing a setting somewhere?
I have admired your balanced view of this vehicle and the brand in general. I appreciate you are super educated, but I would still argue it's very hard to offer this sort of viewpoint when you have been so immersed in a compelling ecosystem like Tesla. Its a little like an iPhone guy getting his first Android. Your vox pops have been fair and balanced as far as I can tell. I have enjoyed them, well done.
Great review, Tom. Had my premium for 2 weeks and loving it. How do you permanently turn off the Traffic sign recognition? Mine still requires turning off every start. I would have thought with my car being so new it would have the most recent software available?
Enjoyed your use of "binnacle" to refer to the instrument cluster. Is this word used in Australia? Few Americans would understand, unless you work in shipbuilding, where it refers to the ship's compass.
@LudicrousFeed ex auto guy here. The dash is the component that connects the A pillars. The regulated instruments, e.g speedo, odo etc are the "instrument cluster" , or instrument panel, or IP for short. The header unit, or infotainment display sits into the dashboard. Hope that helps
I find the ICC to work fine on its own, but yea the lane keeping component is still way off where it needs to be. Useful in slow moving heavy traffic but not good to rely on when moving faster.
Just picked up our premium yesterday. The drive back up to Ballarat was lovely! Funny though that the tesla superchargers here are the only bloody superchargers in the state that don't allow non-tesla cars to charge there.
On my recent trip to the UK, I parked our Model Y at Sydney Airport P7 with sentry mode turned off and it lost at most 5% over 3 weeks. I left my Seal at home unplugged and it barely lost any charge. My UK trip: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html If you leave Tesla Sentry Mode on in an airport carpark, you lose a lot of charge over a prolonged period: Here's The Right Way To Charge Your Tesla And Prolong Its Battery Life ruclips.net/video/kVVYkprjqtQ/видео.html
Hi there, i pick up my seal tomorrow. I am a little excited, my first new car! I have a question about whether a tethered or untethered charger is best for me. I will be regularly undertaking relatively long road trips (450-500kms) and wonder whether having a type 2 to type 2 in the car is overkill or not. Cheers
I think it doesn’t hurt to have a Type 2 cable in the car if you’re doing regular long trips. I have a coupon code for this one: evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-charging-cable-22kw | Code: TESLATOM for 5% off site wide
@@LudicrousFeedI was in the same position as you. Had the Highland on order but cancelled and took delivery of the Seal before Christmas instead. That said, we also still have a Model 3, so it was a no brainer to get something different. The plan was to swap the old Model 3 with the Highland but the Seal was too good to pass up. I didn't want to let go of the Tesla either, so I guess the Seal accelerated our transition to a two EV household.
Hi I enjoy your videos, very informative and helpful. I have a question though. Do you have any idea why most other EVs especially BYD don’t make the regenerative brakes stronger so it can bring the car to a stop without having to press the brake pedal, just like the Tesla? Thanks mate, keep up the good work.
BYD ICC uses 1 front camera and 3 mmWave radar sensors with less than 10TOPS processing power. It’s not their latest Dipilot system but definitely good enough at this price range.
@@LudicrousFeed thanks for the comment. I understand, the Shark certainly looks like it could propel the BYD brand in Aus and certainly shift perception toward Chinese cars
Just got my seal premium..100% recommend turning off emergency braking every time. It seems like the seal doesn't understand roundabouts well and I've been thrown forward by unexpected breaking twice.
Hmm interesting, this used to be the case when I first took delivery but since the OTA software updates, the ADAS has improved a lot to the point where I don’t need to fiddle with it before each drive anymore
I've done it with the Atto 3: ruclips.net/video/wo9u53VmLpY/видео.html The power is throttled below 5% so I'm not really that keen to repeat it with my Seal. My highway range tests with the Seal give me and the viewers enough information: Eco Mode vs Normal Mode | BYD Seal Range Test for Highway Efficiency ruclips.net/video/oZR3L378MCA/видео.html Long Range BYD Seal Highway Range and Efficiency Driving in the Rain ruclips.net/video/4N_0qB13Kkc/видео.html
Haha yes activating Wireless CarPlay requires some patience 😅 I had a few tips: Wireless Apple CarPlay BYD Seal OTA Software Update 2403 V1.2 Review ruclips.net/video/9jMvjwz0-dQ/видео.html
@LudicrousFeed mainly because I'm fed up with Elon Musk, his conspiracy theories and right-wing musings. I don't feel like putting any more cash into his pockets.
Lol I feel sorry for the receiving end. Anyway, here's my 9 year old Model S that I've also rewashed and reused many times: Tesla Model S: Original Tesla Model S 70D Battery Degradation and Cycle Life Analysis ruclips.net/video/F5MMvzKdKfE/видео.html
It was covered when I first took delivery: My first Premium BYD Seal Drive Impression in Sydney Australia 2023 ruclips.net/video/V9fUbyjlU-A/видео.html
And here’s my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html
You have a bigger charging loose due to only 1 phase ,230 Ac. With 2 or more phases you have 400 Vac between phases, there for the conversation to 400Vdc are more effective
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@@LudicrousFeed I did, it was $3600.
@@moestrei 😲
@user-rz1qv8dt1p Is your fuel tank explosion proof? Since gas cars are over 10 x more likely to catch fire I hope for you they are. Unless you're kind of suicidal.
@user-rz1qv8dt1p Gas doesn’t burn either?
@user-rz1qv8dt1p Any bet that my car is way cheaper to run anyway (10 years old, 390.000km). And no, I don't have comprehensive.
Never regret bought my BYD Seal premium. Fantastic car👍
Nice!
@@jamescameron1682 how much kms does the tyres last?
@user-rz1qv8dt1p pretty sure the 2024 batteries that are in the byd seal can’t catch on fire they are the blade battery
@user-rz1qv8dt1p think of your parents, are they regret to have you as their kid?
@user-rz1qv8dt1p that's ok, fool, good luck to you, just don't have any baby, or the world will be in trouble 🙏. Enough of my time.
"Do not correct a fool, or he will hate you; correct a wise man, and he will appreciate you."
I have mine in Greece for 2 monthe and 4300kms. I have to say the same. Last week we took the 2403 update. Dont switch off nothing either. I enjoy the car everyday. With the update I felt it more good at handling.
My longest journey was 450km, with speed from 130 to 170 per hour. Did one stop for 20min and off I go... With 42 deegres..
I want to have the lane keeping change as you mentioned and the navigation to take in considetarion the battery Level and the destination so it can tell you where to stop.
Also as you said the roof here in Greece in hot summer dont getting hot..
Hope you get 11kw as we have here in Europe...
Cheers from Greece. George
Thanks for sharing your experience from Greece! Try this fix for decent EV trip planning: A Better Route Planner Live Data OBD2 Review in BYD Seal Apple CarPlay
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@@g_liout3923 πόσο πήγε?
Funny you should mention EVs in Greece. Heading over next month and hiring a car for a two-day return trip from Athens to Chalcis, where we intend to intend to drive around Euboea for those two days. However, looks like the EV infrastructure in Euboea is very minimal, with the public chargers which do exist limited to 20 MW stations. Does that sound right in your experience of charging in Greece? Also, hiring a car for a day to drive around Crete later in the trip. Efharisto
@@jarrodf_ Hello ...In Euboea indeed there are no DC public chargers, only in chalkis some AC's. I would recommend to hire a non EV car....But if you can arrange with your hotel to have it charged at nighttime, then wouldnt be a problem.........But again in order to enjoy the vacation there.....No EV for me in that situation! Again in Crete for a full day of driving, although there are chargers, i would gt again for a non EV car..In my situation ( I live in Ioannina, and i have i house at the island called Lefkada, where also there arent DC chargers) i charge at home every other night...So in both situation i wouldnot go for an EV.....I hope you have a great vacation!!!!
@g_liout3923 Efharisto poli. Yes, that was my conclusion, too. (Ended up going with an Audi A4 (manual) - which was surprisingly cheap, relative to others, at ~€250 for 2 daya)... Otherwise, I'm sure an EV in Athens it would be fine, but as you say, probably a bit of a challenge outside, travelling on longer road trips... Thanks again. Certainly very much looking forward. Yassou
I have been watching BYD for a while now. We have a KIA EV6 AWD which is a great car, but for our 2nd car, I am waiting for the BYD Shark to hit our shores. With BYD now adding 800VDC architecture and increased LFP Blade capacity in the 2025 models, I would not be surprised if BYD becomes the market leader in Australia.
It’s certainly introducing many more models into the Australian market in the near term …
@@shreeshsaurya4203 funny.....I am hearing a lot praises for BYD.
V2L is another huge plus of this vehicle. I had a 5-hour power outage this week and was able to power my living room as normal from my Seal and carry on with what I was doing, with TV etc. in the background (while the rest of the neighbourhood was in pitch-black darkness). V2L also means I've been able to get rid of all my gas gear and go fully electric (induction hob, lights, fridge, coffee machine) for day trips and car-camping. Although the car REALLY needs a 'CAMPING MODE' where it can continuously supply 12 VDC (for fridge) and 5 VDC (USB) when the car is locked/unattended - powered from the more efficient DC-DC converter rather than the inefficient DC-AC inverter. (Just having the V2L adapter plugged into the car, even with no 240VAC devices plugged in, uses ~2kWh per day, which is a high overhead when just charging a phone or running an efficient 240VAC/12VDC fridge).
Good suggestions for BYD to implement
🤪The maximum power of BYD V2L is 6KW, which is more than enough to support the electricity consumption of the entire house. What fascinating circuit and battery technology.
Good review Tom, your reviews are worth a lot more than most, because you review it based on the way you use it, which is how most people use an EV. Not just endless twisty roads, with an over reliance on a cars handling as well as efficiency measures and range estimates that are only based on highway speed driving.
Thanks! I try to talk about actual usage in my ownership updates 👍
Highway-speed driving is not so good for EVs.
@@oggyoggy1299 I still need to do my regen v cruising highway test for efficiency …
@@LudicrousFeed be interested to see how its going in 3 to 5 years time if you still have it , while it is interesting to see how they run at 6 months or a year , they are still basically brand new , long term tells more of a story you know what I mean .
the teslas don't have a jack and spare wheel , are the BYD models equipped with a spare ?
some people are not fussed by not having a spare , but to me it is a deal breaker .
@@mikldude9376 no spare in the BYD. Not many EVs have a spare, the 2024 KONA being a notable exception
Glad you are still happy with the Seal, Tom. I just viewed the Sealion and am excited for the Sealion 7 to come. The one thing I liked in the Sealion interior over the Seal is that the driver’s display is in a proper visor rather than being plonked on top of the dash like an afterthought.
That’s good to know! Integrated dash screen makes it look legit I suppose 😁
Yeah, I prefer that on the Sealion 6 also
Good to hear that there are no regrets Tom :)
I bought my Performance knowing about the Telsa Supercharger network issue, it wasn't a deal breaker then, but very glad to hear that it's going to be attended to.
Charging by solar is good though our solar system is coming on 9 years old now, has paid for itself well & truly but would need an upgrade to be more efficient with the car charging. As it is, we have single phase wiring at home (coming on 70 year old house) & without rewiring the house, the best the installed wallcharger will do is about 4kw (better than the trickle charger) at 20amps, so not going to hit that 7kw max the Seal can take. Again, it's how the house is wired, a known issue, not a deal breaker & has never made me have to run down to a local DC charger. Just needs a bit of active manual monitoring during the day when working from home (eg., taking advantage of a daylight free period from my energy retailer) & setting up the midnight to 6am charge as needed.
The only issue I have with the Seal isn't mine but that of my partner who is in the market for a car now that her Audi has had the last rites, but she won't look at an EV, despite her acknowledged comfort & performance of the Seal as a passenger, she wants gears, tactile dials & analogue speedo etc, not touchscreens & digital displays. That's another battle for another day, lol.
So I knew what I was getting when I put the order in just before Christmas last year & how the car is 5 months later after delivery has only gotten better :) And when 2403 is installed & the Supercharging fix installed, it will be better again.
Think of how many other cars you can hand on heart say are better 6 months after you bought them (without spending a lot of money in aftermarket parts), that would be a very small list
Thanks for sharing your situation and yes it’s nice to have the OTAs to improve the car over time 🙏
@@mijbril8330 lol the these days most cars have touch screen so she might have to buy an older car
May I ask how you Charge on solar? Tesla's solution (in conjunction with a Powerwall) is seamless, and makes it easy to set and forget.
@@rob1733 I touch on it briefly toward the end of this video: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home
ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html
- you will need a solar charger such as the Ocular IQ Home with a power meter equipped with CT clamps to your home solar inverter. I’ll do a dedicated follow up vid shortly …
@@LudicrousFeed Thank you!
Been very happy with my Premium after just over a month (minus a few days at the panelbeaters after copping a scratch at the school drop-off). I usually listen to podcasts on the way to/from work so the sound system hasn’t bothered me although even for music I find it “good enough”. Just tipped over 1500km and looking forward to heading to south west WA for a few nights next week.
Awesome! Sorry to hear about the scratch 🥲
Indeed, it is a good looking car
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom! Happily the other party waited around to give me their details, and since we were both with the same insurer it was easy to sort it. And luckily for me there’s an EV specialist repairer 3km from home who not only had it done in three days, they charged up my car. Never had a full tank of petrol from a panel beater or garage!
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Thanks for the video. I also bought a BYD Seal a few months ago (I am resident of Brazil). Great car. Loving it. The ICC I turned off before it'd drive me mad.
Glad you’re also enjoying it!
I like the seal it looks like a proper car, a lot of EV cars look pretty silly.
If i hadn't planned to do something else, i would have looked at buying one of these Seal performance cars.
They’re certainly good value
I notice that few people ever comment on this but an absolute deal breaker for me in not getting a Tesla Model 3 was the lack of a front camera!! Further the lack of indicator stalks and a front panel while not deal breakers pushed me to get the Seal Premium which has all these things and more (HUD). The only things I prefer about the Tesla are its auto-park and FSD both which are unavailable in the Seal.
Well, Autopark and “FSD” is also currently unavailable for Tesla vehicles in Australia
The reason why I bought a Tesla was due to their Supercharger network. I've never been disappointed when arriving at a supercharger. I've tried some other chargers and most are working. But when they're out of order it can be very stressful.
Couldn’t agree more. And now that some of them are open to all EVs, it makes it easier to road trip in other brands too 👏
@@darrell3O87OO BYD cars are compatible to Tesla chargers
Thank you for your detailed reviews - your earlier ones definitely helped us take the plunge and get a Seal with the novated lease. Such great value and a real pleasure to drive. Lots of people at work very interested in the car with many questions (and compliments!).
It’s my pleasure and I’m glad you’ve found them helpful 🙏
I had my 3 month service 2 months ago and I am still chasing up weekly for a warranty fix (couple of hardware issues). It’s great that most people’s experience with their seal has been positive. But when you actually have a problem with your seal, their communication is horrendous.
Sorry to hear this and hopefully you get it sorted soon 🙏
I am owning a BYD Dolphin since 10 months (23,000 km) and I am very impressed about the quality. My complaints are also the software and ADAS, which is quite over-sensitive. I heard, that the Seal is better. But I will try lane-keep-assist again after seeing your video.
The ADAS has thankfully been markedly improved since the recent OTA software updates 👍
@@LudicrousFeed do people even care about self drive? - I read that only about 7% of Tesla buyers get FSD. (after a peak of 45% before 2020)
@@morganangel340 When I say ADAS, I’m not really referring to the ICC (although that’s not great either) - it was more to do with the lane keeping and emergency braking alerts/manoeuvres during regular driving that were initially potentially dangerous - this has now been rectified thankfully
@@morganangel340Self driving is quite important in the future...especially in China.
Done 5000kms in my Seal RWD. Off late the drivers seat seems to have gotten really uncomfortable, it has started to feel hard and I no end each drive with a lower back pain which I never had before. Tried adjusting the lumbar support but it just seems dig into my back. Seems fine for short journeys but anything over than 30 mins or so and I am not looking forward any more. Are there others who are experiencing similar issues ?
Hmm sorry to hear that. They’ve been ok for me so far
Currently looking at my first EV purchase and seriously considering the Seal. Videos like this are really helpful, particularly hearing about software updates that have been made. Thanks for taking the time to provide an update
Glad you’ve found my content useful! I still say the Seal is one of the best looking EVs on the market currently 😍
I appreciate your point on the audio. Using the Dynaudio position tool I've needed to position the audio to around 3 ticks away from the absolute rear of the car and 1 tick to the left. I run Wavelet (though I'm sure there are non sideload alternatives for EQ with android auto) to balance out the audio better across channels to what I could hear...kinda left mids and pumped bass and more importantly treble. Finally pumped the treble to 9, mids at 3/2 (depending on the mood), left bass at 0 and lowered subbass to -2. Probably should check my car instead of guessing all this.
I think it sounds somewhat respectable now, but doing radical changes and one sideload seems a bit much.
Thanks for sharing your settings but I agree that one shouldn’t have to tinker so much to get decent sound!
@@LudicrousFeed since my test drive a few months ago, audio on seal was a deal breaker. Even my Camry hybrid SL has a better and much crisp and loud audio than seal
Did you change the oil?
😅 Better watch this video: 12 Month BYD Service Experience at MyCar Chatswood for Seal Premium
ruclips.net/video/DLrd65byi2k/видео.html
Thank you Ip Man for taking the time to do the review.
You are most welcome my son 🙏😁
My experience 5 months in with the seal premium is similar to yours. Now about 11000km on the clock as a daily commuter Wollongong to Sydney and my only real gripe (aside from the traffic sign alerts, thank god I will be able to turn that off permanently soon!) is also the ICC. It has most definitely improved significantly from the suicidal state it was in originally and I am comfortable enough to use it on a straightish road, but a big issue I still have is that when you change lanes with ICC on it will assertively turn the wheel to (over-)"correct" your position in the lane (and then complain that you're out of the lane when it does over-correct), so need to make sure I have a prepared grip on the wheel. Otherwise amazing car, and I hope they keep iterating on that ICC as it has a lot of potential.
Thanks for sharing! I agree it’s not quite perfect but it’s almost there
I also have the Seal Premium and am very pleased with it so far. My only issue is the seat position selection as me and my wife use it daily. It would be good to have a simple button on the seat for option 1 & 2 rather than digging through menus.
This is a common feature request. +1 for me also
This South African approves of your videos. I just wish BYD can launch the Seal here, so far we have the Dolphin and the Atto3. R899990 the asking price for the Atto3.
Thanks! Hopefully soon 🤞
@@thetad1242 you'll thank the SA government for slapping so much taxes on this car to protect BMW and MB manufacturers selling more locally than the export prices
I noticed in my update yesterday, my audio reactive lighting now works with wireless Android Auto. It used to be static lighting unless i switched to bluetooth or radio. Small things but definitely moving forward
Wooo! That’s a nice feature to have 😃
7:53 does the car wobbling when beside the truck ..?..
If it did I didn’t notice it too much
So, I should put the ADAS fuses back in and give it a go? I might do that tomorrow and see how it goes. It's been nice driving a car that hasn't tried to do anything crazy I must say. I'm still a bit cautious about giving it control, but I'll see what can be turned off and kept off now.
Give it a go … the general consensus amongst other owners is that it’s a big improvement on what it was at delivery
@@LudicrousFeed Is yours the performance model? If so, does yours have the overly loud pump noise in the front when charging? I did a video on that, but still haven't got onto BYD to look into it. The K-Mart service guys aren't really BYD specialists, so they didn't know anything about it. I'd say it's a coolant pump, but it really shouldn't be loud.
Mine is the Premium RWD
Is turning signal lever on the right side of the steering? 3:44
Yes right side indicators
Hi Tom, thanks for sharing the long term experience. One q, with the AC do you leave it swing automatically or you keep changing settings? Is it good enough in automatic swing?
In June 2024, I leave the AC on Auto and “Smart” and 25 deg
Any disadvantages to using super chargers? Does it wear out the battery faster?
The consensus is to AC charge as much as you can over DC unless you absolutely must. Plus AC charging is generally cheaper
Lovely review, Tom! I've been checking out all your RUclips videos, and I'm a big fan. I booked my BYD Seal Premium after seeing your reviews. Just like you, I went for the White and BYD Premium. Thanks for the detailed videos! :)
Quick question: Can we remove the middle passenger headrest in the back? I didn't check this during my test drive here in India.
Thank you 🙏 Yes I believe you can
That six months seems to have flown by !
Must admit , I am not sure which I prefer the look of as far as the new M3 or BYD Seal goes . Perhaps the seal by a whisker.
As far as my EV journey goes , I am still waiting for the Livewire to be repaired after the bump it got in February.
I have also received the first power bill since having the Model 3 SR+ , $379.29 with no special EV Tarif or working PV solar system (my solar system stoped working in February).
I have travled about 3100km in that time.
The car that the M3 replaced for daily duties drank 95 or 98 RON at a rate of 13.5 to 14L per 100 km , it was costing me over $100 a week to feed.
Amazing saving with your power bill even without solar or special tariff 👍👏
What hardware change did BYD make to the car to make it work with the V3 and V4 Superchargers? Is this something that will cost us to have fitted?
Check out my vlog about it: BYD Seal Tesla Supercharger V4 Experience Sydney Australia June 2024
ruclips.net/video/w48zBLjv3g8/видео.html
Is all the Tesla network open to non-tesla cars? I thought it was a selected amount.
Correct. Only select locations: check the Tesla app for the latest
I concur with the ADAS improvements. With the last update, I'm so happy that the speed sign warnings can be turned off permanently now. My main remaining gripe is that wireless Android Auto can cut in and out. Otherwise, very pleased with my Seal.
Great to hear!
So one of the great things about the BYD is the Tesla network?
Not gonna lie, the Tesla Supercharger network is almost essential for alleviating EV range anxiety where available - whether it be Tesla, BYD or other brand
Do you think its worth waiting for 2025 Seal?
@@connorfoutras3891 I’d like to review the Aus release first before making an educated call. Release will be close when they start discounting current inventory lol
How are the led headlights at night? I am used to Matrix led headlights in my cars, so would be nice if updated BYDs started including Matrix led headlights like Tesla and not just standard led.
They’re not Matrix but they are more than adequate imo
How does this compare to the Model 3 Highland?
Here’s my original comparison: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia
ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html
But keep in mind the Seal has undergone a few OTA updates and is a better car than what it was at delivery
Every time I see one of these on the road, I think it looks so good
They do look good 🥂
@@LudicrousFeed also look very premium. I just bought a ix3 BMW for my wife, I would have preferred the seal but she likes the SUV style and sitting up higher.
How much is charging and servicing?
Prices and schedule are listed on the BYD website (scroll to the bottom of the main page)
Test drove a Model 3 Highland RWD last week and loved it.... However... I did miss having a stalk for an indicator and I can see how it would be problematic making consecutive opposite turns and trying to indicate via buttons. Sadly, having to make these sorts of quick turns is a part of my daily commute.
I also found that having to glance to the side at the screen to check my speed was a pain. I'm a traditionalist and do want a console in front of me. A HUD would also be awesome and it looks like the Seal provides this.
The more I see about the Seal, and watching your videos, I'm beginning to wonder if I take a chance on the BYD Seal instead of the Model 3 as my first EV.
It’s a compelling alternative. No car is perfect but it’s best to give it some thought before spending the money 👍
wat is the exact consumption?
Lifetime is around 16kWh/100km
thanks
The worst safety feature is front cross traffic braking, which needs some fine tuning its to servere when it deploys, especially at roundabouts
Yes I’ve noticed that also
In Europe V1.30.1 is rolling out..Amogst else there is an EV trip charger planner for navigation...
Can’t wait to try that out!
Will be interesting what the mid-cycle refresh brings, would hope they fix the 7kW AC and up that to 11kW AC. How are the tyres or does the Seal come with the Conti EcoContact 6 already? Also improvements in infotainment system would be good didn't know about the sound system, was never sure what it was like and not a huge sound guy myself I just usually take whatever the manufacturer provides and goes with it. Would you look at selling it say at the 12 month mark and perhaps a XPeng G6 with its crazy charge curve and can see how it compares to the Seal, different class of car obviously being a CUV vs a Sedan I realise.
Yes Seal is equiped with Continental EcoContact already👍
- A lot more choice coming on the market for sure 🙏
my anticipation for Seal facelift will be 3.0evo platform, new blade batteries
If Tesla model 3 is cheaper than Byd Seal Dynamic, which would you recommend i get?
I presume you’re talking about a used Tesla?
@@LudicrousFeed both brand new. Its a genuine question. I was fixated on Seal until i went to test drive tesla and knowing the price.. Now i am so confused
It’s a difficult question to answer because the price point is important … but if you want me to answer a hypothetical, I’d say:
If you’re after software/UX/app integration: go Tesla; if you’re after aesthetics/build/ride comfort/phone protection: go BYD
@@LudicrousFeed thank you! This helps me a lot 😊
What’s the best option for home charging ?
I recently posted my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home
ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html
Just noticed this BYD, is it better than RAV4 , Hyundai Tuscan , or Kia Sportage? Anyone’s knows ?!
I call my Seal my Chinese Merc
@@LudicrousFeed 👌
How much dies it cost to charge per 100km range?
In Australia, it depends on where and when you charge …
Scenario 1: At home, if you’re charging from solar - it’s essentially 5c/kWh x ~15-17 kWh/100km efficiency = 75-85c
Scenario 2: Specialised EV plan (Origin,
Ovo, AGL) - 8c/kWh x ~15-17kWh/100km = $1.20-$1.36
Scenario 3: Public DC charging can be up to ~80c/kWh x 15-17kWh = $12-$13.60
And everything in between!
@LudicrousFeed thank you that's very helpful info 👍 much appreciated
Only issue for me is ride height. Not ideal for the bad roads in my country. Waiting for Sealion 07. Hope it has decent height above ground.
The SL6 ground clearance is 173mm so hopefully SL7 will be similar
It'd be great to put the observations in context of the price of the car compared to say the Tesla
Glad you asked! 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia
ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html
And then follow my channel’s rabbit hole …
Is it just an Australian thing to not keep left unless overtaking?
Certainly in Sydney it seems that way doesn’t it?
The adaptive cruise control being subpar is a huge deal breaker for me.
Certainly leaves me wanting more
Ever ran into rapid gate when the fastcharging drops to 80 from 150 when the battery hits 52C? Haven’t tested it fully in mine yet but seen some reviewers noticing this. Agree with you on the sound, it needs more clarity and precense in mids and highs. Lane keeping is ok but as a previous tesla owner I totaly agree with you. Highway no problems for me but yeah others roads are hit or miss.
Haven’t done much DC charging yet tbh, just been focusing on day trips but might be worth a test now that the Tesla V3/4 SC issue is fixed in my car
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah I will go on a long trip next week and will test on the Ionity 400kW chargers, over powered yes sir. Seen car pulling 152-153 and reporting 149,2 into battery for a 25% charge so no way near getting hot during such a short charge session. My v3/v4 was fix with the 1.1 release so maby the hardware was already there. 1.2 now here in Sweden so just got the wireless apple car play, 🥳
The Car had an 11kW loader, dont know what you mean with 1p loader...
In Australia all BYD vehicles including my Seal are only equipped with onboard single phase AC charger
In Brazil is same only 6.6 kW in AC for BYD Cars. For Seal a 11kW 3P ou 22kW is necessary because have a big Battery.
Can you comment on the suspension please? I own 2022 modelY and despite loving so many things about the car I simply feel the suspension is well below the standard.
I saw another reviewer say the suspension of the Seal was butter smooth and I would have to agree 🥂
Are you concerned of the additional weight of the Seal premium 2320kg with a driver, compared to Tesla M3LR 1849kg affecting overall range.
Not something I really give much thought to day to day to be frank with you
Requesting BYD SEAL owners (performance model) to give info about the range. Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for sharing. Heard that the sealion 6 BYD is having a bad body roll on cornering , and that the tyres should be replaced to better ones. ! Is it true ? I am comparing it to Kia sportage and Hyundai. Thanks
I’ll take a closer look at these issues when I take a media loan of the SL6 shortly
@@LudicrousFeed 😀 if you are getting a loan then it might be a good idea to review the SL 7.
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib I had a quick walkthrough and test drive of the SL7 in China recently: BYD Sea Lion 7 | BYD Shark 6 | Denza Z9 | Fang Cheng Bao 5 Test Drives
ruclips.net/video/-2tuhFy5W7E/видео.html
The lease on my ICE car is ending early next year. Got the option to pay the balloon and keep the car or sell it and get a new car. Thinking of a change like an EV car which make sense on a new lease as there is currently no GST on EV and there is FBT exemption, that is the repayment is 100% deducted before taxable income for the duration of the lease which considerably reduce the cost of the EV. On the other side i have to think if its better to have an ICE or EV vehicle in terms of battery safety, ongoing cost (Insurance, Servicing, battery replacement etc.). Too much to think about for someone who hasn't drive an EV yet. While i have no doubt Tesla engineering is top notch, I kinda find inside a bit boring. I would prefer to have a Heads up display which i'm use to with my current car and also the console behind the steering wheel. I don't want to take my eyes off the road to watch the centre console everytime how fast i'm going. People say you'll get use to it but I don't think I will. Hopefully Model Y Juniper will bring some changes to my liking. If it is, then Tesla will be my first choice, otherwise will look into other model. I have been looking the Polestar 4 and will be interested to see what Xpeng and Sealion has to offer. Any good advice from you Tom?
I’d personally wait … there are some good offerings in the next few months including ZEEKR and XPeng
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks
ICE cars win hands down, used Tesla's or any electric car is worth nothing. Buy and throw away.
Your reviews helped me get to our byd seal premium, thanks Tom! We love the car so far so good.
Awesome! Glad you’ve found them helpful
For Your information, Dynaudio is as Danish as Volvo is Swedish. Dynaudio is owned by the Chinese these days, and it is hearable😢
Got it 👍
Premium? Is it performance awd?
Long range RWD 82kWh
Just out of curiosity. You get any form of compensation from Chinese Manufacturers/ EV companies?
Nothing wrong with that but it should be disclosed. Cheers.
Good question but no, I don’t get compensation from any car companies. I always provide my financial disclosure in the video description
Seems like a great car, but why are we accepting the ability to turn off a feature a "fix" for it. If the speed limit detection is wrong and keeps beeping, a proper fix should be to make it more accurate, not turn it off.
I still find the UI to be a bit convoluted and unintuitive. I hope they somehow adopt the new CarPlay 2.0 or significantly make the experience better.
Yup couldn’t agree more
You haven't mentioned the lack of one pedal driving which is a bit of a shortcoming in a car of this calibre
Cheers, I along with many of our viewers have mentioned it in my other Seal vids - I didn’t want to labour the point. Some passengers actually find OPD uncomfortable with the harsher braking so I don’t personally think it’s a deal breaker. I usually turn it off anyway in some of the other press cars I’ve driven eg Hyundai Ioniq 5
We where talking about vampire drain during parking and it hit me that the doesn’t seem to suffer from this like the teslas and others. How’s yours doing?
Yes I agree - there's minimal phantom drain in my BYD Seal. Having no Sentry Mode and a Power Off button probably helps 😅
Is the hardware update available to all owners? Just bought one and am due for delivery in a few weeks.
If you bought a car that is post March-2024 build then your Seal will be compatible and therefore not require an upgrade. Full details: ruclips.net/video/w48zBLjv3g8/видео.html
Just saw Bjørn Nylands BYD Seal 1000km challenge.....quite a different experience.
Admittedly I don't drive 1000km on a regular basis, it's good enough for my daily ride 😁
@@LudicrousFeedand probably not at 130km/h
majority of us BYD seal owners are delighted with the car, therefore I would take Bjorn's video with a grain of salt
He actually quite likes the car. His criticism was very specific, related to the lack of adequate cooling of the battery during DC fast charging. That said, the overall average charge rate for the Seal during his test was still high enough to have it rank reasonably well across all the cars he has tested.
@@vasil7410 I haven't watched his 1000km challenge yet, but I noticed in the other test he did recently the temnparature of the battery cells as an average between the minimum and maximum was probably lower than the Tesla over the charging curve, it was also only marginally slower to fully charge it compared to the NMC long range Tesla. When he craps on about rapid gating whenever he tests BYD products it just seems like a bit of an overreach and beatup to me. Tesla's whilst they don't charge particulalrly quickly are very efficient though so will travel further on a given charge which is also critical in the 1000km review.
My ICC is pretty good AWD model production month: 2024 April. But I got range issue. On eco mode highway 80% city 20%. Battery 100%-25% did just 300km. Basically Geelong-Melbourne-Mornington-Melbourne
Hmmm so about 400km real world range 🤔
When is denza z9 gt coming to Australia.
Would love to see that beast here
Gday mate, love your videos. just seeing if you know if you can change the setting from kpa to psi when it comes up on the screen?? thanks heaps.
Yes the available units are bar, kpa and psi
Hey mate, I've been trawling your Seal videos but I can't see any comment comparing driving visualization preview? Trying to decide between keeping my Ora or switch to Seal (although ex 3 owner).
Hmm that's because driving visualisations are basically non-existent in the BYD software 😭
@@LudicrousFeed so you cant see other cars on the sides and behind? I think i can see in your videos you can at least see the one in front
No sadly not ... Watch my video: ruclips.net/video/INuMazD5vLA/видео.htmlsi=vxI8jLXaEXTA44Vn&t=382
The 'front car' is just a static image to toggle the distance to follow the car ahead
@@LudicrousFeed that's strange because even the Ora has side and back views although you have to turn it on.. sure we're not missing a setting somewhere?
Thanks very much , a question : can you carry a golf bag (including a driverclub) in the trunk ?
The bag yes. The driver … you may need to fold one of the rear seats down
I have admired your balanced view of this vehicle and the brand in general. I appreciate you are super educated, but I would still argue it's very hard to offer this sort of viewpoint when you have been so immersed in a compelling ecosystem like Tesla. Its a little like an iPhone guy getting his first Android.
Your vox pops have been fair and balanced as far as I can tell. I have enjoyed them, well done.
Cheers man!
The aim of the channel has always been to get more people into EVs regardless of brand and to help people get the best out of each car
Great review, Tom. Had my premium for 2 weeks and loving it. How do you permanently turn off the Traffic sign recognition? Mine still requires turning off every start. I would have thought with my car being so new it would have the most recent software available?
Hmmm what software version are you currently on?
Not sure, but I just updated it today so hopefully when I get in tomorrow the ADAS is still as I set it after the update
Great review! How often do you have to service the car and what are the costs?
Thanks! Every 12 months: the fixed servicing costs are listed on the BYD Automotive Australia website
Enjoyed your use of "binnacle" to refer to the instrument cluster. Is this word used in Australia? Few Americans would understand, unless you work in shipbuilding, where it refers to the ship's compass.
Not a commonly used word here but easier thank saying “Instrument Cluster” dash each time 😁
@LudicrousFeed ex auto guy here. The dash is the component that connects the A pillars. The regulated instruments, e.g speedo, odo etc are the "instrument cluster" , or instrument panel, or IP for short. The header unit, or infotainment display sits into the dashboard. Hope that helps
I find the ICC to work fine on its own, but yea the lane keeping component is still way off where it needs to be. Useful in slow moving heavy traffic but not good to rely on when moving faster.
Agreed yes the CC part of the ICC is fine and seems to keep strictly to the set speed with minimal issues
Agreed, Wife hates the Lane Keeping.
1/2 year already!! still thinking about your japan trip..... going back again?? yen conversion rate nothing but spectacular
Trust me I’m always looking for an excuse to head back to Japan 😆
Is your driver seat right side still ok? Because I saw on some expo cars it has been already deformed 🥴
Seems ok to me
Just picked up our premium yesterday. The drive back up to Ballarat was lovely!
Funny though that the tesla superchargers here are the only bloody superchargers in the state that don't allow non-tesla cars to charge there.
Congrats! Hopefully they’ll eventually open the entire network to all EVs
What do you do with your Ev’s specially the Seal when you leave for a vacation? It would be good if you can talk about that please 🙏🏻
On my recent trip to the UK, I parked our Model Y at Sydney Airport P7 with sentry mode turned off and it lost at most 5% over 3 weeks. I left my Seal at home unplugged and it barely lost any charge.
My UK trip: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency
ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html
If you leave Tesla Sentry Mode on in an airport carpark, you lose a lot of charge over a prolonged period: Here's The Right Way To Charge Your Tesla And Prolong Its Battery Life
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@@LudicrousFeed So for short travels its OK to keep the seal unplugged then , thanks a lot for all the information you provide
@@abdullaalblooki1527 yes definitely ok to leave unplugged for short trips - presumably you mean a few days
Great review Tom. You go to the depth of information like the single phase charging which no other auto reviewer would.
Thanks! There are aspects of a review that can only be addressed with long term ownership
Knowing what you know now, would you buy a new Seal Premium or Tesla Model 3 long range assuming price isn’t a factor?
This applies for my own particular situation only: yes I would buy my Seal again
Hi there, i pick up my seal tomorrow. I am a little excited, my first new car! I have a question about whether a tethered or untethered charger is best for me. I will be regularly undertaking relatively long road trips (450-500kms) and wonder whether having a type 2 to type 2 in the car is overkill or not. Cheers
I think it doesn’t hurt to have a Type 2 cable in the car if you’re doing regular long trips. I have a coupon code for this one: evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-charging-cable-22kw | Code: TESLATOM for 5% off site wide
Thanks for the video. Would you swap the Seal for the Highland, now?
Happy with the Seal honestly
@@LudicrousFeedI was in the same position as you. Had the Highland on order but cancelled and took delivery of the Seal before Christmas instead. That said, we also still have a Model 3, so it was a no brainer to get something different. The plan was to swap the old Model 3 with the Highland but the Seal was too good to pass up. I didn't want to let go of the Tesla either, so I guess the Seal accelerated our transition to a two EV household.
@@vasil7410 best of both worlds 👏
only trouble I see (like tesla) is the service agent is 300km away
It’s tough for those in areas without readily accessible BYD or MyCar centres
Hi I enjoy your videos, very informative and helpful. I have a question though. Do you have any idea why most other EVs especially BYD don’t make the regenerative brakes stronger so it can bring the car to a stop without having to press the brake pedal, just like the Tesla? Thanks mate, keep up the good work.
OPD (one pedal driving) is available in other cars, just not the BYD. I’ve tested OPD in Hyundai, Kia, MG, Ford … the list goes on
@@LudicrousFeed oh ok pardon my limited knowledge on other EVs 😁
BYD ICC uses 1 front camera and 3 mmWave radar sensors with less than 10TOPS processing power. It’s not their latest Dipilot system but definitely good enough at this price range.
The tech may be there but the practical application is not great … yet
Curious to know your thoughts on the shark
I won't be reviewing it on the channel given it is a Hybrid
@@LudicrousFeed thanks for the comment. I understand, the Shark certainly looks like it could propel the BYD brand in Aus and certainly shift perception toward Chinese cars
Just got my seal premium..100% recommend turning off emergency braking every time. It seems like the seal doesn't understand roundabouts well and I've been thrown forward by unexpected breaking twice.
Hmm interesting, this used to be the case when I first took delivery but since the OTA software updates, the ADAS has improved a lot to the point where I don’t need to fiddle with it before each drive anymore
Hi when will you do a zero mile test ? Curious how far the seal goes
I don't imagine he would do that with his own car: it's not good for the battery.
I've done it with the Atto 3: ruclips.net/video/wo9u53VmLpY/видео.html The power is throttled below 5% so I'm not really that keen to repeat it with my Seal. My highway range tests with the Seal give me and the viewers enough information:
Eco Mode vs Normal Mode | BYD Seal Range Test for Highway Efficiency ruclips.net/video/oZR3L378MCA/видео.html
Long Range BYD Seal Highway Range and Efficiency Driving in the Rain ruclips.net/video/4N_0qB13Kkc/видео.html
@@LudicrousFeed thanks I will watch. Seem to be different to tesla who have 3kwh below 0 (or more )
Loving my seal. Just done the software update. Just need to get apple carplay to work😂
Haha yes activating Wireless CarPlay requires some patience 😅
I had a few tips: Wireless Apple CarPlay BYD Seal OTA Software Update 2403 V1.2 Review
ruclips.net/video/9jMvjwz0-dQ/видео.html
@@LudicrousFeed thanks. I have watched that many times. I’ll keep trying. It would be nice to have
I think you took delivery on the 29th of Dec. I know because I took delivery on the 30th.
Nice 👍
Great video. I'm thinking of changing my M3LR for a BYD Seal Premium next year.
Nice. Any reason you’re changing to BYD? CarPlay?
@LudicrousFeed mainly because I'm fed up with Elon Musk, his conspiracy theories and right-wing musings. I don't feel like putting any more cash into his pockets.
I have condoms that have more milage. They are rewashed and still works fine. Feels great on the shaft. That's after years of heavy usage...
Lol I feel sorry for the receiving end. Anyway, here's my 9 year old Model S that I've also rewashed and reused many times: Tesla Model S: Original Tesla Model S 70D Battery Degradation and Cycle Life Analysis
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you didnt go over costs .. price paid for the car .. price to charge at home .. on the road ect.
It was covered when I first took delivery: My first Premium BYD Seal Drive Impression in Sydney Australia 2023
ruclips.net/video/V9fUbyjlU-A/видео.html
And here’s my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home
ruclips.net/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/видео.html
You have a bigger charging loose due to only 1 phase ,230 Ac. With 2 or more phases you have 400 Vac between phases, there for the conversation to 400Vdc are more effective
Hmm good to know