Fixing Broken Water Lines!
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2024
- Today we are preventing a disaster! We are replacing leaky pipes before they burst and flood our barn. We still use steel lines yet and have all the tools to make our own lines. We show you from start to finish how to replace an old rusty water line. Thank you all for watching! Let us know in the comments what type of new water setup would be best in a barn like ours.
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Aaron-I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I always try to hit the “Like” button as soon as you post a new video. Your Dad is a natural in front of the camera.
Pipes never fail to break when you have temperatures as low as we've had in the Midwest this week. You were way ahead of it for sure. I'm kind of surprised with all the tools George has he doesn't have a pipe stretcher. 😉 Be safe and God bless
Journeyman plumber for 40+ years.The new pex is good, there are different types, I believe wirsbo, (spelling) is the best but you have to keep it out of the sun. Don't have to worry about freezing weather, this stuff is indestructible. Good luck.
Wish we had that back in the day. Seems like our water hoses break at the worst possible time.
Nothing can replace hands on experience and passed on knowledge. College education has its place but it sickens me to no end when tradesmen/farmers are viewed at as less intelligent.
You guys are great, it's intertwining, encouraging, and educating.
WELL DONE.
You do a good job with the cows and chickens 🐔 and ducks
Our house was set up the same way where you could hear the water running to the barn in the middle of the night. I put a screen filter in the hose leading to the drinking cup for my summer calves, and have not had it stick open since then. As far as durability of PEX, I can’t see why it wouldn’t hold up in a barn situation. Although I’ve never seen it done. It’s way easier to work with.
As always, Aaron, George, Mason and Owen you make this city girl love farming…..GIEROK IS MY FAVORITE YOU TUBE PAGE🐄🦆
Boy oh boy my favorite activity, working on pipes in the barn... don't miss it one bit.
Good video as always and listening to your dad and his wisdom is always interesting stuff and I look forward to every video
Respect to your dad he has a passion for his trade
I TOTALLY ENJOYED WATCHING THE VIDEO AARON 😊
We had the same type of system, except, there was a drinking bowl for every cow. And since we kept them in during the winter months we plugged every hole that allowed cold air to come in. I remember how warn and toasty the barn was on those cold mornings, even in sub zero temperature, sometimes we removed our jackets to keep from sweating. Now we no longer milk and by the time I was a teenager Dad went to work in the shop after he had hauled cattle for years to slaughter houses. At one time her and my one Uncle had a milk route where they picked up farmer's milk and delivered to a dairy for bottling. Farming is never dull. Keep those videos coming. Love your channel
Waterpipes never break on a nice warm day and you don't have anything else to do. Way back some farms took their cattle to a spring to drink.The good old bad days.Thanks😊.
Wish they would
We had a large cattle aluminum tub which may have held a few hundred gallons of water. As boys, we had to hand pump the water into the tub. Something which always fascinated me as a child was watching bubbles created when the water from the hand pump went into the tub. I am 71 years old now and I still love watching the bubbles created when filling a glass of water. I love water. What a wonderful creation God made.
If you were going to change another of plumbing look into black plastic with a service duty rating of I think 7 or 11 that has about 1/4in wall stands up to oil field service so I think farm life won't bother
We had the water lines above the milk and vacum lines with rigid downpipes to the drinkers. Each cow had her own drinker as it was double tie stalls. All demolished now and under smart houses for the townies!.
Always love how he tells you why he does it his way.
Boy, you sure brought this old boy back some memories, I once worked in the oilfields out in wyoming, montana, utah and colorado, I threaded lots and lots of 1 inch pipe and put hammer unions on the ends
Amazing, George can fix anything, How about a video that shows you guys feeding the outdoor wood burning furnace?
How about you watch the video they already have?
our water lines and air lines for the milkers ran over head, with drop down pipes for the drinking cups, we used 3/4 inch steel pipes for both
We have unions on each section of pipe. Our water comes in in the middle of our barn and have a valve to shut down each section individually. We have all of our own threading equipment but the hardware threads pipe reasonably. You have a very nice setup. The through setup is nice but you need a toprail setup for that
Someone always had to go to the barn around 10 or 10:30 before bed to check the water buckets and sweep up the mangers!
Brings back memories of dealing with the water hoses we used for the water cups. We’d always have to remember to turn the water off overnight in case a cow would get loose and break the hoses. 😡
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was going to be busted because of the freezing cold we are having here In Wisconsin. I remember those days. First thing in the morning, when it was cold, we would check for frozen drinking cups on the north end of the barn. Sometimes it was a propane torch to the pipe. Not fun.
I love watching your post about dairy farming because I am a ex dairymen and know what you are telling is true not a bunch of bull. From ex TN dairymen
Water lines are one of the challenges of farming. Your proactive repairs are time well-spent. Failed water lines never seem to pick a good time to happen. Woke up to hear water running in the basement from a corroded fitting between the pump line and tank inlet decided to burst. Luckily a floor drain prevented a major flood.
I have been out of dairy for awhile now but we always had galvanized pipe. I don't think I'd change to anything else. You have the tools and the system down and it lasts a long time barring any damage. There was a guy in our area back in the 90's who ran hydraulic line to all of his water bowls. You may have mentioned in past videos and I've missed it but l would be interested to know if you've ever had problems with the pipe stalls rusting off at the concrete? That was a big problem for us at the end. We periodically bought new stalls from freudenthal mfg out there in Wisconsin (from Maine) as we got sick of patch jobs on the old ones.
Brings back memories. On the fridge days kept the dairy cows in the barn an heifers inside both barns kept one exhaust fan running within those barns. We had Stantions a the water came across the top of the stantioned an a pipe went to to the drinking cups. We did have a preassure tank an a watering system tucked away kinda open but in the later years dad would enclosed it with a door an couple windows, added couod heat lamps an thermometer kept a close eye . But as usual something else wouod freeze up .
A great video. It is always a treat to listen to father George explain what was needed to fix the water problem. He is a walking encyclopedia of knowledge and experience.
Our water for the water cups ran over head along side the milk line. Then a line ran down to feed the cups. It doesn't matter what you have for a set up in my opinion. The cows will always rub on it, step on it, or the feed will corrode it. The biggest pain was the cups. They ways had sticky valves and would flood the feed trough. (We had a trough that was indented into the floor in the shape of half a barrel).
Thanks for sharing the video. Y'all definitely have the tools to fix your water lines. Looks like your Dad has it down to a science. I always enjoy your videos. Hope y'all are staying warm in the cold weather and y'all aren't having too much trouble with your water and feeding.
I have a tiestall barn built in '94
and the waterline is in the headrail. I haven't had to replace any yet other than a section where i changed the stall size but the old pipe was still good inside. It's
1 1/4" galvanized pipe. However I've heard if you have a lot if iron in your water it won't last very long.
Yep I remember scooping up a barn full of water when a line breaks or cup gets stuck open and your barn is full of water!
Thank you for taking the time to Make videos showing the ‘fixing’ side of things. 😀
Great video every farm should have a pipe cutter and threading dies you never can tell when you will need them
From one dairy farmer to another the only perfect water system is one that works for your farm
Always love listening to your dad explaining things. Great video. All the best 🇬🇧.
I grew up on a small dairy farm in Michigan we had a stanchion barn but our water ran overhead witch was all steel like you guys have we had drop pipes . Half way down was a union a valve. In 60 years of milking never rusted out. Cows came in for winter every year like you.
We had some galvanized, but we switched it all over to copper many many years ago.. Still holding to this day. Probably would consider some type of plastic if we were doing it again now.
The one thing I would do for a couple of days after a plumbing project in the barn was shut the water off at night.
Your story about the well pump made me thing of my grandfather. We used to manually water our cows in an old bathtub. My grandfather would fill it and walk off to do something else. It never failed, someone would take a shower and there wasn’t and pressure 😂. You’d yell out of the shower for someone to go up the hill to the barn and shut the spigot off.
You guys have a great shop and knowledge for making repairs. Always a pleasure to watch a well organized operation. This is what farming should be. Great job!
I think that was one of the best days of my farming career when we tore the water lines out of our dairy barn.🤣🤣
We had our waterline running the length of the stall on the ceiling and our galvanized pipes run down to the drinking cups with 4by4,s to clamp them on for protection from the cows bumping them and for support/ they done well and never froze like our old one,s did, they were pretty much like yours on the floor!
It's cold enough now... Didn't break any lines but some water cups froze. Our water pipe is mounted right on the ceiling. Then a pipe comes down to each cup that's pretty popular in our area.
Just in general, using the galvanized pipe is better than most of what is on the market today, especially in the barn where you have it running. I worked in the old farrowing barns that had a similar setup. Great video I appreciate watching what y'all do on your farm.
thank you
We run our water lines right off the ceiling since the heat rises and (knock on wood) have never had problems with freezing or cows damaging them. Then of coarse like ur barn every other stall we have a water cup then just drop the line down for it. It works for us.. might not for you.. just letting y’all know what we got and use. Thanks for the great content!
I’m a licensed pump installer for the state of Wisconsin. I’m in the Green Bay area. When we pipe barns we try to put ball valve in so we can isolate the barn in half and in quarters and some that have stock tanks we have hose thread faucets to fill while the pips are fixed. And if the pipe is around cows galvanized pipe is the cheapest. Stainless pipe is expensive and a pain to thread
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We use pex in our barn. I dont miss measuring pipe and hoping the hardware store cut it to the right length!
Nice video
If you ever change it would it be better to run pipes up by the ceiling to get it off the cold floor the heat in barn would probably help with them up there. Thank you Tom from Nebraska
We have a tie stall barn different type of stalls and manger we have a high manger with what used to be called comfort stalls by standard equipment which went outof business yrs ago the original stalls had all galvanized pipe there was 3 pipes across the front of all stalls the bottom pipe was the water with curved pipes which curved under the bowls and connected under them age took its toll on all the water lines so we switched it over to pvc pipe attached to the top pipe in the fronts with vinyl tubing hooked into the tops of plastic water bowls the pipes sometimes get busted and the cows push on the tubing and bust it too but a pocket knife and nut driver can fix the tubing in minutes but its better than dealing with galvanized pipe
Do well, pump work on dairy farm, the main well pump has only failed in January or February, as matter a fact replaced it today, 11 degrees in northern central PA. Not a easy chore, well is 300 ft and pump hung on 2 inch pipe but we do what we have to do so cattle have water.
I’ve seen guys run pex line above by the pipeline then run the line down to the drinking cups. I would turn the drinking cups so they were inside the stall. That way if a valve should happen to stick open the water is in the gutter instead of the manger.
We used overhead water lines to the same drinkers. I think you would still have to use steel up and down for cow safety and pex for the rest.
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Never had a stall barn. I never thought how many waterers are in there! On our farm we only have 6 waters on the whole farm ! And that’s enough to worry about
looks like pex would be a good option very easy to work with.
Our water line for the cow's drinking cups were over head and I don't remember any replacement of the water line but the drinking cup valves would get stuck open from time to time. Our water pressure tank was in the basement of our house, like Georges Dad's, and when the cow drank the pipes would bang when they stopped drinking.
We have the water lines running overhead. the only problem with it is we would need to fix the line going to the top if the water bowl. So we would be able to fix in just minutes with making new threads on pipe and moving the bowl up same
Nice repairs have a great day.
Pex is the way to go
Great job on the pipe repair ! One question what are the sawtooth bars above the cows were they normally are. Your dad bumped his head on a couple off them ? We had a barn like this I have never seen them in ours !
those are trainers to get the cows to back up when they pass manure or urine- so it lands in the gutter instead of on the platform. You can run a little joit of electric through them, or not- it does help to keep cows cleaner, but they can be a nuisance to work around.
As a retired plumber, I still have nightmares about galvanized pipes that freeze and break in the winter. Pexs has made it so much easier to install and repair. It can withstand freezing 25 percent better without bursting. I like how your family still does a lot of the more traditional ways but it may be worth the time and money to upgrade the whole water system with Pex. Hang them up higher away from the cows and you can even use the pool noodles for extra insulation to prevent freezing. Keep up the great work.
As a plumber by trade I thread a lot of pipe it didn't look like y'all were using cutting oil I would highly recommend it because without using it you take a risk ripping the threads making a weak point causing possible leaks down the road. PEX is a good alternative but two negatives I would see first is once water is in the line it could start sagging unless you have a continuous support entire length plus doesn't Look neat and tidy when that happens. Second is depending on the length that you're barn you may have an issue with lack of pressure due to friction loss therefore you possibly need to go larger pipe diameter and also have it on a continuous loop so you have equal pressure at every drinker.
Enjoyed your video
Milked jerseys in a tie stall barn for many decades. There is no perfect system I suspect. When we built the new addition we had water in the tie rail. Worked for quite a while but eventually you will get pin hole leaks or even a break. Then we went to inch and a quarter pvc which lies inside the manger curb- it has been broken a few times, mostly where the line has to go up and over and cows or heifers can reach it and push on it. Some of the overhead has been replaced now with pex where it is more vulnerable to freezing, esp now as I only have heifers in the barn, and sometimes not very many. We finally started turning the bowl lines off late in the evening to stop any possible flooding at night- seemed to work okay for the cows and i still do it for the heifers I have. Many years ago my elderly neighbor said he had worked in a large dairy barn where the manger had drains and was designed to be flooded several times a day so the cows could drink- and in the really old days, as you said, they just drank when they went outside.
When I was a boy I remember going into the barn in the morning and finding a flood from a stuck drinking cup several times so when I got older and bought my own farm and was putting in new drinking cups I found a cup with a screen in it I think they were clover drinking cups I never had a problem with them
You could install a volume shutoff valve,where you can set how many gallons of water can go to your cows at night,so if a pipe breaks only so many gallons of water can flood your barn before it shuts the water off.we had a neighbor years ago had a 3 or 400 gallon tank in the upstairs of the barn and was enclosed and the barn floor removed so the barn heat kept it from freezing,at night they turned the main water line off and switched to the gravity flow tank,same principle ,only so much water flooding the barn
We still have galvanized pipe like you guys.we have terrible water that eats the pipes right up. Always been afraid to use pex pipe with such destructive cows
Always interesting to see how you work things out. Glad it was done before the freezing weather came through. I asked my husband what the temperature was today (1/18/24) and he said it was back to being more like winter should be. Right now it is 19. Thanks for the video.
Howdy Aaron, always good to see your dad keeping out of mischief.
George, you’re absolutely right, if it was plumbed overhead, it would eliminate the majority of the corrosion issues.
We used to have galvanized supply lines to our various barns, then dad replaced most of the underground lines with poly.
It works okay, but we’ve lost the ability to defrost lines with a portable welder. We seldom get really cold temps here in The South of Michigan anymore though.
Bless’ns to the both of ya’s,
Tedd
We have the same thing as you guys but in the inside of the curb with a junction between each water bowl. Like your dad said we have all the tools we need to fix it. We have a section with the water in the neck rail much less fixing but when it does brake way bigger of a head ache. Happy new year from Canada!
If you decide to redo all of your lines, you should run your main line up high next to your milk line and then come down to the cups. It would all drain if you had to evacuate the system.
I know about that water stuff! Here's one- back in 1960 we had a drouth and our spring didn't supply enough water for the cows, this was in February, so my Dad & I took the horses, loaded milk cans into an old manure spreader we turned into a cart, just took the chain & beaters out, went down to the creek, there was a deep hole, bucket out water into the milk cans, go up to the barn, pump the water up into a big watering tank my Dad put up on stilts so it would gravity feed down to the waterline for the water bowls. twice a day for weeks, until the well drillers could come a drill a well. Now mind you this is February and cold as can be. Watered about 60 head, milked 30,+ heifers & calves. So they came and drilled a well and they went 110 ft. and hit water, an artesian well! it was a 6" pipe and the water shot out of there for 3 days straight full pipe as high as the barn!! everything was ice, and it took them the 3 days to try to cap it, because there was so much pressure on that well, they couldn't hold it down and turn the cap to screw it on! finally got it on and the well supplied the barn, the house which is about 200 ft up hill from the barn with no pump, stock tank out in the pasture, up hill 100ft, over to my Uncle's trailer, which was out behind the house, and had a 1" overflow pipe which ran full bore all the time! There's more to this story, but I'm writing a book! you want to hear rest of the story?
wow that is amazing the every day work that goes on a farm. its always something different no matter what kind of day and that makes it awesome. i have to say your deffinatly one of my fav farming channels. Quick Question did you ever sale your boiler and put in that other one or no. I am really curious to know
Try threading 2" pipe by hand. Now thats a real mother.
Use to put the water lines above the cows heads then it would come down the pipe between the cows.Had problems but nothing bad
Keep an eye on the thread area in a couple years, as the newer galvanized piping seams to rust through on the threads early !! Same old saying, just not made with the same material as the old stuff 🙁
Oh no waterlines my dad‘s barn was a different tie stall with a solid pipe that ran through the middle and then off of that pipe we used old milk or hose and had Barb end and use that to replace them and then all the waterlines were overhead like over the Man major way, and everything the water was overhead, so to be easy to drain access and repairand the milk lines the rubber milk lines were thing that you had to replace anyways so it was a another use for them
if it was me and my barn, I would run stainless pipe up high, about the same place as your other stainless milk pipe is and install sections in at every drinker, so that no piece og pipe is too long, but with stainless it will last what seems like a lifetime if installed correctly.
and the added benefit of that, running the pipe up high is that you won't need to run pipe or hose overhead or under concrete at the walkway, because its up and out of the way.
then you can run the water down from that in say like a braided hose or hydraulic hose as you were talking about to the drinker itself.
but that's is just my opinion and the way i personally would do it, it the best most logical way of doing it, even if the cost of installing it is a bit higher, it will pay for itself on the long run.
Cows are mosey they see something new they love to just rub against it
How old is the barn building???
If it comes to changing out the water line, for durability you may check the price of stainless steel piping !!! It won't be cheap but will last and be strong and rigged if that is what you need !!
The worst thing about old pipe is once you start it’s anyone’s guess where the repair will end. One threaded joint twisting out in a fitting changes Plan A in a heartbeat!
Ever thaw out a frozen line with the arc welder?
The worst I've seen is a pipe that froze, broke and was flooding everything. Subzero weather and there was a river of ice coming out the doors. A lot of sand used until things thawed in the spring. It was too thick to do anything with.
I remember having to replace waterline Showing up to a flooded barn in the morning to is not fun
My neighbor was a an Surge dealer back in the 80's here in NW Indiana not sure if you guys ever dealt with them back then.
i used pex, i found with cows that there is no perfect system. sooner or later they will break something, like you i have fittings and the tools to quickly repair a leak and just looking for drips before they become a gusher
Had a frozen water in the milk house one time that was a mess. I got drenched trying get to where I could shut the water off. The temperature was zero. The 1/4 mile walk back to the house for dry clothes was not fun.
Maybe run pex inside your old pipe to give it protection from the cows walking on it.
Why not use PEX to replace piping?
might want to lookinto sch 120 plastic
Aaron, can you tell me what that metal upside down "T" apparatus is for that your dad hit his head on at 9:28 in the video?
Edit: and are they for the same purpose as the sawtooth looking ones?
Don' t see many guys using hand pipe dyes anymore
Hey guys, please talk into the mic >>>>>>>> hard to hear you at times, THANKS!
Informative pipe maintenance video. I'm wondering whether you could also like to talk something about the outdoor power equipment maintenance and repair. Hipa supplies parts for small engines
and maybe we would work together to share more tips on small engine repair and help more DIYers in the community.
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