Thank you for the program. A couple of points: we heard a fascinating talk about medieval houses some years back on how to distinguish the difference between inside and outside walls. The houses surveyed had not been built and left alone but were continually being changed with wings being regularly reorientated through 90 degrees. Outside walls had become inside and visa versa. Whole houses had been moved to new positions. As you can tell from many old houses nothing was wasted and timbers reused. I am sure the same happened in prehistory. My second comment relates to dung. My husband commented that an uncle, who farmed near Holsworthy in Devon, used to put a layer of chalk under the winter bedding of his cattle which was only scrapped out when the cows were moved out in the spring. (The bedding itself was cleaned out regularly). The chalk absorbed the urine etc. The animals would suffer less problems following the use of the chalk and the pasture would also be in better condition as a consequence of their absence during the wet months. Our feelings are that this must be a very old practice. Are more ancient settlements found on chalk than other ground types? We can think of multiple uses that the chalk under layer could be put to by our ancestors; building walls, floors etc.
Your subscribers are going up. It’s nice to see. You guys have 100% put the work in and paid your dues. It’s nice to see momentum is building up for you.
34:09 some tribes still use dung as a flooring material to this day, with everyday use & sweeping it becomes highly polished. I’ve also renovated ancient rural properties in southwest France which had cow dung used as a first coat render on 1st floor rooms with horse hair plaster (also probably containing urine) top coat on the walls. Later coated with lyme wash.
Glad to see you are over 45K subscribers!!! Breaking 50K soon. The only issue with the canoe is the Ho Chunk tribe moved from the east coast west in the late 1500s to 1700s. They would only have a relative if it was someone that was kidnapped as a slave. The French and Portuguese explorers/hunters/trappers that traveled through found no one but some empty villages in the great lakes area, the first village found with people in the late 1500s was the tip of Michigan where the tribe had moved west to. Archeologist know the area was vacant for a while, they always blamed the Portugeuse explorers giving everyone small pox and wiping out all the people on the Mississippi and surrounding rivers the explorers traveled. The Ho Chunk and other tribes moved west due to wars and fighting with other tribes. The lakes around Madison are not considered part of the Great lakes. It is an awesome find but they are trying to rewrite history saying they had relatives on the lakes in Madison, their relatives where on the east coast.
Interesting talk again. Even today we have societies who live with their animals. I inckudes parts of the UK. One of my class mates of Downpatrick High, Northern Ireland (1961) still had a barn close to if not attached to his home. Also we use the locally available materials for building because of cost and availablity of alternatives.
✌️Re the Barows being used for 800 years or so, my feeling is the importance of burying the ancestors in a place of worship and remembrance (assuming that was the purpose) is because the people would have been related and very important to each other for relationships but perhaps more so for survival reasons. If we modern day humans were suddenly transported back to those days we would soon see how important each person was for just getting by for one day, let alone 800 years. 😊
Guys, here in southern Africa the people used the dung floor method as recently as 100 years ago. I'm sure you might actually still find some houses that use it today. It really doesn't smell bad. It smells like... nature... damp grass...
Just a comment on the thumbs up, I saw it at 140 and I reloaded the page to see what it was at and it showed 125. It should not go down like that. Added the museum to my list of places to go when I get there.
If milk was only found in a percentage of the (obviously low fired clay) vessels, maybe it’s because they had figured out that milk in a porous vessel would contaminate any liquid put into it later, and make people sick (in addition to a bad smell) Rather than proving a low level of the adoption of milk into the diet, it could prove that the properties of milk were well enough known that vessels holding it were segregated from the rest, or treated differently.
Hello. I am watching your podcast in Kent. Kent, Washington, USA. My great grandfather, John Hall, was from Kent, England. He left & joined the Mormons in Utah.
Hey guys! Hailing from NJ, USA; we’re on the east coast, about five minutes away from the beach really, and our state is basically just north of half way up the coast of the country, for a better picture.
The small specialised museum is in many ways a superior experience to a visit to the big museums that display far, far too much to take in. Even after 100s of hrs wisely misspent truanting in the vast halls of Edinburgh's National Museum I barely scratched the surface of its stories. Next time I visit my family in Dorset I'll make the trip to Wiltshire.
Love your show. Only complaint I have is the audio levels. For one of you, I have to turn my speakers way up because the sound is so low. The other is quiet one moment and loud the next. Then the ads come up and I have to scramble to turn it down because it's so loud. Any way you can bring up your microphone levels? Thank you!
The USA is only 247 yrs old. So yes, 1200 yrs. old seems about right. I am Native American and my Tribe comes from that general area. 12k yrs would make them Ice Age, and that area would have been covered.
Thank you for the program. A couple of points: we heard a fascinating talk about medieval houses some years back on how to distinguish the difference between inside and outside walls. The houses surveyed had not been built and left alone but were continually being changed with wings being regularly reorientated through 90 degrees. Outside walls had become inside and visa versa. Whole houses had been moved to new positions. As you can tell from many old houses nothing was wasted and timbers reused. I am sure the same happened in prehistory.
My second comment relates to dung. My husband commented that an uncle, who farmed near Holsworthy in Devon, used to put a layer of chalk under the winter bedding of his cattle which was only scrapped out when the cows were moved out in the spring. (The bedding itself was cleaned out regularly). The chalk absorbed the urine etc. The animals would suffer less problems following the use of the chalk and the pasture would also be in better condition as a consequence of their absence during the wet months. Our feelings are that this must be a very old practice. Are more ancient settlements found on chalk than other ground types? We can think of multiple uses that the chalk under layer could be put to by our ancestors; building walls, floors etc.
Your subscribers are going up. It’s nice to see. You guys have 100% put the work in and paid your dues. It’s nice to see momentum is building up for you.
Always a pleasure
34:09 some tribes still use dung as a flooring material to this day, with everyday use & sweeping it becomes highly polished. I’ve also renovated ancient rural properties in southwest France which had cow dung used as a first coat render on 1st floor rooms with horse hair plaster (also probably containing urine) top coat on the walls. Later coated with lyme wash.
Glad to see you are over 45K subscribers!!! Breaking 50K soon. The only issue with the canoe is the Ho Chunk tribe moved from the east coast west in the late 1500s to 1700s. They would only have a relative if it was someone that was kidnapped as a slave. The French and Portuguese explorers/hunters/trappers that traveled through found no one but some empty villages in the great lakes area, the first village found with people in the late 1500s was the tip of Michigan where the tribe had moved west to. Archeologist know the area was vacant for a while, they always blamed the Portugeuse explorers giving everyone small pox and wiping out all the people on the Mississippi and surrounding rivers the explorers traveled. The Ho Chunk and other tribes moved west due to wars and fighting with other tribes. The lakes around Madison are not considered part of the Great lakes. It is an awesome find but they are trying to rewrite history saying they had relatives on the lakes in Madison, their relatives where on the east coast.
Interesting talk again. Even today we have societies who live with their animals. I inckudes parts of the UK. One of my class mates of Downpatrick High, Northern Ireland (1961) still had a barn close to if not attached to his home. Also we use the locally available materials for building because of cost and availablity of alternatives.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 from the ancient province of Mide and the mystical, mythical Hill of Uisneach.
Loving this video, sorry I missed the live, can’t get up early enough !
All the best Jules
✌️Re the Barows being used for 800 years or so, my feeling is the importance of burying the ancestors in a place of worship and remembrance (assuming that was the purpose) is because the people would have been related and very important to each other for relationships but perhaps more so for survival reasons.
If we modern day humans were suddenly transported back to those days we would soon see how important each person was for just getting by for one day, let alone 800 years. 😊
As always, very interesting and good company. Thanks gents.
You guys are fun! Glad to find you.
Guys, here in southern Africa the people used the dung floor method as recently as 100 years ago. I'm sure you might actually still find some houses that use it today. It really doesn't smell bad. It smells like... nature... damp grass...
Dung is used today still in India´s villages to make mudflors smooth and to desinfect them ! It is a very pleasant surface to walk on barefoot,
Same in Nepal 🇳🇵
Good morning, interesting and fun show, thank you. Your prodigal sons the USA, love and esteem you, your King, and the people. Thank you.
Just a comment on the thumbs up, I saw it at 140 and I reloaded the page to see what it was at and it showed 125. It should not go down like that. Added the museum to my list of places to go when I get there.
The bots are everywhere! ☹️
Just found you directed by "EMS GEMS" channel. She is a geologist following ocean life from millions of years ago.
Thanks
I always miss the livestreams and end up watching them later but I guess that's the price I pay for living in sunny SoCal...lol
If milk was only found in a percentage of the (obviously low fired clay) vessels, maybe it’s because they had figured out that milk in a porous vessel would contaminate any liquid put into it later, and make people sick (in addition to a bad smell) Rather than proving a low level of the adoption of milk into the diet, it could prove that the properties of milk were well enough known that vessels holding it were segregated from the rest, or treated differently.
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Interesting point!!
Jewish predecessors? 😉
Hello. I am watching your podcast in Kent.
Kent, Washington, USA.
My great grandfather, John Hall, was from Kent, England.
He left & joined the Mormons in Utah.
Hey guys! Hailing from NJ, USA; we’re on the east coast, about five minutes away from the beach really, and our state is basically just north of half way up the coast of the country, for a better picture.
You are my new favorite show. 💕
What a slow start !
what do you get when you drop a piano down the mine shaft: Ab minor
The small specialised museum is in many ways a superior experience to a visit to the big museums that display far, far too much to take in. Even after 100s of hrs wisely misspent truanting in the vast halls of Edinburgh's National Museum I barely scratched the surface of its stories. Next time I visit my family in Dorset I'll make the trip to Wiltshire.
Love your show. Only complaint I have is the audio levels. For one of you, I have to turn my speakers way up because the sound is so low. The other is quiet one moment and loud the next. Then the ads come up and I have to scramble to turn it down because it's so loud. Any way you can bring up your microphone levels? Thank you!
Thank you.
Re Milk's 2 maps: "Milk: It was the best of ancient pottery, it was the worst of ancient pottery", perhaps?
24:59 How do you spell that? Thank You
12 hundred year old canoe rather than 12 thousand?
The USA is only 247 yrs old. So yes, 1200 yrs. old seems about right. I am Native American and my Tribe comes from that general area. 12k yrs would make them Ice Age, and that area would have been covered.
No Body Inn😂
Guy’s you seem to have gone Radio ☘️🤔
Your batman jest is telling 😊
Is it hard to get to star carr? For someone who doesn’t drive ( I’m epileptic , no shame in that can’t help it lol ) ?
A bit late to catch you but entertaining as usual.
Imagine putting your shoes ON when entering a dung-floored home
Dung provides Tone to what otherwise would be an academic brawl?
how do I get to patron page
Thanks for asking, the link should be visible under our movies but go to www.patreon.com/theprehistoryguys
I cannot see who put the 1st comment 😮 i try look logged out also. 😔
Ever heard of siberian megaliths?
So our ancestors were building shit brick houses, which later evolved into brick shit houses still referenced as the standard of perfection.😁
If you want to see what the people of Devon were like in Prehistory, just go there now.
and the evidence that it is a Holchunk canoe is what?
Animal milk or human ?