Update comparison: ruclips.net/video/Yils3qJlcKg/видео.html Yes, the Logitech works with the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro but does obscure the speakers a little bit. NO, the Air 4 will not work because it will cover the Touch ID.
A couple extra useful functions on the Folio and Combo Touch keyboards: If you hold down the lock and Vol- function keys simultaneously for a few seconds, you can get to the power off screen; and pressing the lock and Vol+ keys simultaneously will take a screenshot, instead of having to reach up and press the somewhat hard to press buttons on the case itself to do the same functions.
So happy you can detach easily and go into tablet mode, because taking notes with the pen is a very important aspect when looking at keyboard cases. Thanks Logitech!
Great review. I looked hard at the Apple Magic Keyboard and decided this was a better product for these reasons: 1. That top row of function keys is very handly. I had a Logitech Slim Folio for 4 years for an earlier iPad Pro 12.9 and wouldn't want a keyboard without it. 2. The Magic Keyboard doesn't fold open completely flat like the Logitech Combo Folio does. 3. Also, this LCF's detachable keyboard clings flat to the back of the ipad and is very nice for use in tablet mode. 4. This was the killer - when you take the iPad out of the Magic Keyboard case, it's completely unprotected from scratches, dings, spilled coffee, etc. No thanks. The Logitech is superior.
I have the Combo Touch for the older 10.5” iPad Pro and it’s awesome. A bit heavy, but the keyboard separating from the case-kickstand was an awesome feature. I’m glad Logitech decided to replicate the detachable design for the new 11”and 12.9” Combo Touch case.
Came into this pretty sceptical, since I was determined to buy the magic keyboard. But you totally sold it to me, all the extra buttons, that it’s detachable, and just the look of it makes it completely worth it over the magic keyboard. Thank you!
Coming from an 8th gen combo user, after a whole year this case has stayed super clean and the kickstand still feels great. Just bought the new 12.9 IPadPro so I’m gonna need this one for sure with the Apple Pencil.
The only thing going for the Magic keyboard in my mind, is the stand elevates the ipad a little, so you do not have to look down at the screen (as much) as on the Logitech. But the other pros more than weigh up for this. Especially considering in our home market (Norway) the Magic is very nearly twice the cost of the Logitech.
I didn’t know about being able to reverse the keyboard and keep it attached when I bought the combo touch. Logitech should showcase that in its advertising. But when I discovered it upon arrival, I knew it was superior to the Apple version. I subbed. You’re the only reviewer who calls this out.
I was able to get both and I would say aesthetically, the magic keyboard is superior but functionally, the Logitech. If you want an actual laptop replacement with a “futuristic” look because of the floating design, then you go with the magic keyboard. It feels like an actual laptop with this case. The Logitech feels more like a tablet with a keyboard rather than a “laptop” however, the detachable feature is awesome by itself. Logitech trackpad is also not as smooth just a tad bit.
Just got it for the 11 inch a few days ago. So far so good. The feeling of the material is good and the keyboard separating is key. It’s heavy however. Something you can get used to.
I was thinking the same thing, but it might have been a deliberate design choice since it might have gotten in the way when the top is reversed and reconnected to the keyboard when placed flat.
Good timing Jerry. I just received mine today as well. I bought the Magic Keyboard and it arrived with my 12.9” iPad Pro. Although beautiful (I got white), I think the Combo Touch is actually more useful. And the detachable keyboard is perfect for my needs because I want to sit on the couch and use the iPad as a content consumer. I’ll sit at my desk if I want to type.
Bro your videos are such good quality man. Idk how you only have 17k subs when theres people who don't know what they're taking about with millions. Keep at it and you'll get those subs you deserve.
I Ordered the combo touch which is coming in a few days. I really wanted the Magic Keyboard but after owning 2 Keyboard folios that started to peel ( apple couldn’t do anything to help ), i decided to go with something else. The magic keyboard seems to have the same rubber coating that goes bad after a few months
Good review, didn’t know that you can sort of flap back the keyboard to the back. Ordered that one for my M1 12,9. I do write a lot with the Apple Pencil but also need a keyboard for mails and RUclips studio. So I went for the Logitech as I hate to take off the iPad from the magic keyboard. As well: I use it really for work so I have to carry it from one meeting to Another or as well in the shop floor so i really want it protected. Something I cannot get from Apple. I wished they included the lil flap they have in the 11” version which actually protects the pencil while carrying it around. Let’s see how it will work out the next weeks in use, thanks for the good overview
Thanks. The flap is on the Folio touch and this is the combo touch. Also I have a comparison agains the Magic Keyboard here ruclips.net/video/Yils3qJlcKg/видео.html
I just received mine. It’s awesome. All other considerations aside, I want to protect my inve$tment. This is a no brainer! Previously the choice was get a protective case (Zugo) or a connected keyboard like the Apple one. This is the best of all possible worlds, currently. I do a lot of drawing so the detachable aspect really rocks and I can either put the keyboard aside or fold it under, if I’m out and about. The typing experience is far more than adequate and in 5 minutes I was in disbelief that I had used the onscreen keyboard for so many years. I love, love, love the trackpad. M only concern was that typing while on your lap was allegedly problematic. I find that if I fold one leg over the other and set the case so that my kneecap sits between the lower half of the case’s back and the bottom of the flip out wing, it’s perfectly stable. I wouldn’t do this for long periods of time, but for writing a comment on RUclips, like I’m doing now, or popping off an email, it’s just fine and dandy. If I’m going to be typing for long periods I’d rather be sitting at a desk or table and maintaining good posture.
great video, I was stuck deciding between the combo touch and magic keyboard. after watching this video, I finally made the decision of buying the combo touch
Great presentation! I really like the way you demonstrated some of the trackpad gestures and keyboard shortcuts! I also swipe down from right corner, tap on the remote and can use the volume up and down buttons on the keyboard to control volume on our AppleTV and homepods.
Definitely getting the Logitech with the new 12.9 iPad. I currently use a ZAGG keyboard with my iPad , and its almost identical to the Logitech. As you stated…you have more options for use with the Logitech. And the price difference makes it a no-brainer. Thanks for the review.
I picked up both the 12.9 inch iPad Pro and the Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard Case yesterday. So far I’m satisfied with both but I’m still getting familiar with them.
I think it's great, the trackpad seems to work surprisingly well, unlike most 3rd party iPad keyboards, I do have a few things to say though. u said you could completely detach it from the keyboard and use it in full tablet mode, I mean u could do the exact same thing with apple's keyboard. And about that row of function keys, back when I was an all iPad user, I had a 3rd party keyboard with function keys, and tbh I rarely found myself using them. I used command space for spotlight, I never used the virtual keyboard, I used command h to exit applications, and I had my iPad turn off whenever I closed the case so I never used the power key either. I only found myself using function keys for adjusting volume, and rarely for brightness, as I had True Tone enabled. I think getting a better looking, first party keyboard is worth the trouble of pressing the physical buttons on the iPad or going into the control center to adjust volume, for me at least. I would still get Logitech's keyboard though as I would save a 100 bucks lol. great video btw 🙌
You saved me I was going to purchase magic keyboard from apple for my 2021 iPad Pro 11inch now I am going to buy this hands down ! You also saved me time and money 1 and for 2 adjustment, attachment and 3rd luck the case so my iPad doesn’t get dents or so fourth thank you !
SOLD!!!! Another awesome review by awesome Apple products test pilot “Das Jerry”!!!. Yes, those FUNCTION KEYS are a MUST for the iPad Pro. How could you, Apple, neglect those so much needed keys from your Magic Keyboard? And You Apple, charge a lot more?. I was just about to search for a Logitech review for this Combo Touch….and Das Jerry popped into the test lab and show us the wonders of the Combo Touch. Just in the nick of time. I will order it tomorrow first thing in the morning. Even before I order the new 2021 iPad Pro. The reason being is that I have yet to decide what options I’d like in the new device. I have a new Nikon Z50 digital mirrorless camera and it will be using the Halide Mark II Pro Camera App, perfect for the new iPad Pro. Again, thanks Jerry for your review. Be well, be safe, be blessed.
I recently bought the 12.9 inch m1 iPad Pro and I was thinking whether to get the magic keyboard or the combo touch. But since I have a MacBook sleeve, I’m going to be using it for putting my iPad Pro with the magic keyboard in it to protect the exposed corners. Because of this, I think the magic keyboard is a better buy.
Great review. I used to get paid to review this type stuff and IMO this case is a winner. Logitech makes amazing keyboards. I am still hanging onto a few K811. Thank you.
Somehow I feel it's a downgrade from the Folio Touch because the top case may fall off (in case of an accident) since it's magnetically attached. But I agree with the fact that Logitech should make a general use case without the keyboard as it looks classy.
@@JerrySchulze $100 cheaper and the ability to completely detach the keyboard and use the stand is incredible. Plus the added protection of it being an actual case is a plus
Good review Jerry. As for overall comparison between this keyboard and 12.9 mkb, could you briefly share your personal preference between the 2 Jerry? In terms of long run usability and practicality. Thanks.
I honestly don't know why more case companies don't add the feature of the Kickstand which can separate from the Keyboard, its such a brilliant design, but can be very scarce on Amazon Uk etc. I was always on the Zagg Slim Book designs which were perfect, but these days they seem to be slow at releases in Europe market, so I've decided to drop them and buy the Combo Touch. Specifically purchased because it separates and has a kickstand (for lying in bed watching on your chest, watching at a table)...fantastic product from Logitech and meets all my needs.
I have the 12.9 case since 3 days now and I can say that the quality is really nice and the keyboard is perfect as is the trackpad. HOWEVER: this thing adds a lot of weight to the already more heavy 12.9 2021 Ipad pro. it actually adds another 300+ grams, I measured 1040 grams without the keyboard. So you will really feel it. For all 12.9 use cases this is fine, it can also rest nicely on the lap with the fold holding it in reading position. But it makes your 12.9 a 2-hands device, one handed you need gorilla arms to hold it. With the full keyboard, you have 1.45kg of weight. The tablet is nicely snug in the rubber fold. Writing on it is good and it is protected and nicely on the desk. But you cannot get it out quickly and easily. I think it is good, but it is the necessary compromise of weight vs. protection vs. quality vs. handling you have to make, especially on the large 12.9.
@@coolcat6544 I am slowly getting used to it. The use goes to two handed, though. Upside is the resting position on the lap with the kickstand, better than holding. Also, I am large enough to use with keyboard on my lap. Upside is that it feels better on the desk. I think for more pure one handed tablet use the recommendation is to use an 11 inch without a keyboard, but also in that case I think the pro is overkill and the air or normal the better choice. I keep my old air 1 for the couch potatoe use, the 12.9 is clearly best for artist use and laptop exchange. A kickstand case for only 100g additional weight would be a winner 👀
@@kshitijraina I cannot say as I do not have a comparison. Three things I found with this device: first, it is not suitable to take off and on, this is quite hard to do and if you do it wrong you can even damage the iPad, hence I left it on the whole time. As the back cover provides a good option for putting it onto your knees as a kick stand or onto the table to avoid movement while drawing/writing, I never take it off. Second, the keyboard quite often freezes on the mouse pointer, you can easily revive it with a single keystroke, but still this is pretty annoying. Third, the borders of the rubber that frames the speaker holes on the left side both bulge out - either this is specific to my device or common, I do not know (does not happen on the right side), but clearly is a design error. Not a big deal, but for the price of the device it is a negative. Overall it is a compromise, probably one you have to make. Not sure if the Apple keyboard is better, because if you remove the iPad from it, you have no protection and no flat rest on table due to the camera bulge (bad design by Apple for a tablet).
Hi Jerry, great videos. Love them! Actually, I have a question, what about the flap? Is that resistant to be manipulated all the time? Could it be damaged after permanent using? I’d like to buy one, but I’m not sure if IPad’s keyboard is better or not… thanks!
@@JerrySchulze hey. Went to apple store and they confirmed it will work so bought one. Very nice experience to use it so far. So much better than magic keyboard. Morecersatile and lighter. Take care
Great Video man. Do you happen to know if the new M1 Mac will fit in the 4th generation Logitech Slim Folio Pro case or do I have to buy a new one of those?
The Logitech is obviously the better and cheaper choice. I think it’s just about how important the floating tablet thing is, at least for me - still undecided…
I got the previous Logitech Touch Keyboard instead of this new detachable one. Currently the Logitech goes for $145, but about a week ago it was $120, and I don't feel that the ability to detach the keyboard is worth $70. I feel like I would have the keyboard attached the majority of the time anyways. The last Gen-model also has the little flap for your pencil; where I will say that it doesn't feel like the magnet would ever become week enough for the pencil to fall off (it is seriously on there!)... its nice to have! I think the older model is worth it at the $120...
A couple negatives for the Combo Touch. The footprint the Combo Touch takes up is much much larger than the Magic Keyboard. You have the keyboard which is basically the dimension of the IPad Pro + the distance the tablet leans back + the distance of the kickstand protruding out back. 99% NOT something to use on the lap. And even on a desk, you better not have anything behind the iPad as you set it down. The Magic Keyboard’s footprint is only a little bigger than the size of the iPad itself. Much more compact. The other negative is the cut out for the Thunderbolt port is too small. If any cables, dongles etc is not deep enough, you cannot plug it in. Logitech should have left that portion wide open. Also the trade off of having nice thick bumpers is you cannot use adapters like the one from Anker that plugs into the USB C port and provides more ports or SD/micro SD card reader access. You have to use a dongle that has a cable.
Agree 100%, i wanted to keep the Logitech but the footprint was the reason i decided to return and keep the magic keyboard. If you want to use the iPad on your lap or use in a plane the additional footprint of the Logitech would be an issue.
Great review mate, really pointed out a lot of important points, i just thought you missed one - how good is the logitech (12.9 inch) when used on the lap? As the kickstand doesn’t have a lot of center weight, i think the case could be a little messy when used in the lap, compared to Apple’s. What has your experience been regarding this? Thanks
Excellent video, Jerry, thank you! After watching a number of different videos you've helped me to finally decide to go for the Logitech. But I have one concern. Since Apple has decided to remove the headphone jack I'll want to also buy a USB-C hub. But I've heard that certain hubs may not connect well to the Logitech port because of the surrounding case. Have you any insight into that issue, please? 👍
I know this is dated and there are bigger things to cover but I tried the Combo with the 3rd gen (2018) iPad pro 12.9" and I connected it to the Caldigit SOHO you recommended a while back and guess what, it fits and works great. Thanks
great video, now I’ve just got to make sure I’m buying the right one as any search engine gives me loads of different ones all from the same company, I hate search engines
I have a 12.9" 4th gen and I really love these ipad keyboards from logitech. Is there any chance this one fits the old ipad pro? They are very similar! Thank you!
Is it tilted like folio touch when you put it on your lap or it is hard connected to the cover through magnet? I don’t know if I could send you my message. 2:39 when you take the folio touch it is tilted a little bit. What about combo touch?
Does the Logitec trackpad really work well ? Is the "klick" of the same quality no matter where it gets done or does the upper part of the trackpad demand heavier push ? I heard there are some problems. Correct me, if I'm wrong. Thanks.
Will the 11 in. version fit the ipad Air? I purchased Logitech Folio Touch but wish the keyboard detached like the Combo Touch. I imagine the Touch ID is covered, but this isn't a deal breaker for me. Thanks!
I recently purchased the 11 inch pro. I’m debating between the protection of an otter box vs the productivity of the Logitech. Does great Logitech offer protection for drops? Thanks
I actually love the colour, it will hide most of the wears and tears. You can get the logitech pebble mouse with the exact same colour for a matching set up.
Hi Jerry, just want to check if you had a difficulty in two gesture scrolling/swiping? I bought mine however you need to constantly reconnect the keyboard to fix the two gesture scrolling.
Hey man thanks for the vid! It is great! I got some issue for the mute button, i think it the mute button on the keyboard doesn’t work, and when i asked the shop assistant back about it, they told me that it only works on a certain application like for music. Is it true? Cheers man
I’ve got the combo touch and overall it’s great, the two things that give me pause however are the kickstand and back fabric; the kickstand doesn’t feel like a hinged piece of metal but instead one that is being bent back and forth, my concern is that it will eventually loosen and snap, it also doesn’t have a clear stop point when opening it out so can be opened too far putting excess strain on the hinge/metal. The back fabric on mine has already started to crease and come away from the metal at the ‘hinge’ point and you can hear the adhesive separate as you open and close the kickstand. Have you experienced either of these with yours? Wondering if I have a defective unit.
I have the same thing with the fabric making a crease and I can hear the adhesive separating. I guess it's just the design of the hinge - it's not perfect.
Excellent review! You pointed out the use and versatility of the kickstand which is a major reason to buy this instead of the Magic Keyboard, however Clicking on your link, this model ships in one or two months. Is there any keyboard case with kickstand that will fit the newest iPad Pro 12.9 that is readily available?
@@JerrySchulze Thanks for your reply. I will probably get this, ZUGU Case for 2021 iPad Pro 12.9 inch Gen 5 - Ultra Slim Protective Case, from Amazon. Ironically, also not available until July. smile.amazon.com/dp/B093R1SGLJ/?coliid=I33LU759K33H8J&colid=X308WH4HBGJI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it I have a Zugu case for my older iPad Pro and it is a high quality durable case with an adjustable tent stand. It does not have a keyboard but that is not a priority for me since the touch screen typing on the iPad works so well. Thanks again for your information and best of luck with your RUclips channel.
I had the same timeline pop up so I checked out best buy and it was available for pickup in store, so maybe check there? I’m sad that my purchase can’t support this channel because Jerry’s review convinced me to buy it. :/
i currently have the combo touch and it works amazing with a nice design. however the magic keyboard is still on my mind solely for it's weight. to carry the combo touch around, it's pretty heavy
Thanks for the review but do you know why when attached the iPad keyboard still shows up and I cannot get rid of it. I bought this so that I can have the extra real estate to do my work. Thinking about returning it….
Thanks for this review! I’m curious about one thing: I had the Combo Touch case for an older 2nd-gen iPad Pro 12.9, and it was mostly great… except that when the keyboard cover was closed, when carrying the iPad Pro by its "spine" (the opposite side of the volume buttons) you could inadvertently trigger the Play button on the hardware keyboard! I can’t count how many times that random songs started playing while I was carrying my iPad or when it was in my backpack. It was the ONE infuriating thing about that design. This keyboard case looks scarily similar to that case, so I’m concerned if it has the same problem. Would you please try testing that?
Hello, I have the magic keyboard currently, I don’t like that my pencil comes off super easy, already lost one and had to buy another. I don’t like there are no function keys. I work in a clean room environment so my question to you about this keyboard is what is the “durable material” you highlight in the video? Is it a cloth type or just textured plastic. I cannot use a cloth case inside a clean room environment. Otherwise, thanks so much for the comparison video… it highlights the function keys but seems the lack of pencil safety is still a negative for me… :(
Update comparison: ruclips.net/video/Yils3qJlcKg/видео.html Yes, the Logitech works with the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro but does obscure the speakers a little bit. NO, the Air 4 will not work because it will cover the Touch ID.
They released one for the iPad Air that has an opening for the Touch ID now 🙌🏼
A couple extra useful functions on the Folio and Combo Touch keyboards: If you hold down the lock and Vol- function keys simultaneously for a few seconds, you can get to the power off screen; and pressing the lock and Vol+ keys simultaneously will take a screenshot, instead of having to reach up and press the somewhat hard to press buttons on the case itself to do the same functions.
Thank you
@zgoaty92 Very useful, thanks
Thank you..
We’ve had a Logitech iPad keyboard for 5 years (really old models) and didn’t know this. Thanks for sharing!
What is the software I need to download for this combo?
So happy you can detach easily and go into tablet mode, because taking notes with the pen is a very important aspect when looking at keyboard cases. Thanks Logitech!
Great review. I looked hard at the Apple Magic Keyboard and decided this was a better product for these reasons:
1. That top row of function keys is very handly. I had a Logitech Slim Folio for 4 years for an earlier iPad Pro 12.9 and wouldn't want a keyboard without it.
2. The Magic Keyboard doesn't fold open completely flat like the Logitech Combo Folio does.
3. Also, this LCF's detachable keyboard clings flat to the back of the ipad and is very nice for use in tablet mode.
4. This was the killer - when you take the iPad out of the Magic Keyboard case, it's completely unprotected from scratches, dings, spilled coffee, etc. No thanks. The Logitech is superior.
I have the Combo Touch for the older 10.5” iPad Pro and it’s awesome. A bit heavy, but the keyboard separating from the case-kickstand was an awesome feature. I’m glad Logitech decided to replicate the detachable design for the new 11”and 12.9” Combo Touch case.
This is the first keyboard case I liked more than Apple’s magnetic one.
Way better than apples
This case gives me the surface pro feel of it. Much better designed with the kick stand and being able to detach
Came into this pretty sceptical, since I was determined to buy the magic keyboard. But you totally sold it to me, all the extra buttons, that it’s detachable, and just the look of it makes it completely worth it over the magic keyboard. Thank you!
I have a full comparison video between the 2.
Coming from an 8th gen combo user, after a whole year this case has stayed super clean and the kickstand still feels great. Just bought the new 12.9 IPadPro so I’m gonna need this one for sure with the Apple Pencil.
Ah, now I see this post. That’s awesome!
Excellent review. I hardly ever comment but this review answered all the questions that no other reviewer talked about!
Oh that’s awesome!!
Is the kickstand magnetic when closed? Or does it flip open when using tablet mode wit the keyboard detached? Thank you!
@@sprocketdog6303 it's magnetic and doesn't flap open on its own
The only thing going for the Magic keyboard in my mind, is the stand elevates the ipad a little, so you do not have to look down at the screen (as much) as on the Logitech. But the other pros more than weigh up for this. Especially considering in our home market (Norway) the Magic is very nearly twice the cost of the Logitech.
I didn’t know about being able to reverse the keyboard and keep it attached when I bought the combo touch. Logitech should showcase that in its advertising. But when I discovered it upon arrival, I knew it was superior to the Apple version. I subbed. You’re the only reviewer who calls this out.
Awesome!
I was able to get both and I would say aesthetically, the magic keyboard is superior but functionally, the Logitech.
If you want an actual laptop replacement with a “futuristic” look because of the floating design, then you go with the magic keyboard. It feels like an actual laptop with this case.
The Logitech feels more like a tablet with a keyboard rather than a “laptop” however, the detachable feature is awesome by itself. Logitech trackpad is also not as smooth just a tad bit.
Just got this case for my 11” pro. Hands down best case, super versatile and the keys feel great.
Just got it for the 11 inch a few days ago. So far so good. The feeling of the material is good and the keyboard separating is key. It’s heavy however. Something you can get used to.
Literally all this case needed was that little flap for the pen to make it 100% perfect 😩
True hope someone makes a DIY flap Velcro or something that they can sell on amazon like Pencil Secure Flap on addons
I was thinking the same thing, but it might have been a deliberate design choice since it might have gotten in the way when the top is reversed and reconnected to the keyboard when placed flat.
Thats exactly what i thought...
Very, very professional, thanks to you I learned some new Logitech Combo Touch features, thanks!
Good timing Jerry. I just received mine today as well. I bought the Magic Keyboard and it arrived with my 12.9” iPad Pro. Although beautiful (I got white), I think the Combo Touch is actually more useful. And the detachable keyboard is perfect for my needs because I want to sit on the couch and use the iPad as a content consumer. I’ll sit at my desk if I want to type.
Cool. Thanks for checking it out.
The best review on combotouch for iPad pro.
You answered all my questions. 🙏
Awesome! I just posted a video with full comparison of this vs the iPad magic keyboard.
Thank you! Just got my iPad Pro 12.9 M2 and this Logitech keyboard is truly a magic.
Bro your videos are such good quality man. Idk how you only have 17k subs when theres people who don't know what they're taking about with millions. Keep at it and you'll get those subs you deserve.
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I Ordered the combo touch which is coming in a few days. I really wanted the Magic Keyboard but after owning 2 Keyboard folios that started to peel ( apple couldn’t do anything to help ), i decided to go with something else. The magic keyboard seems to have the same rubber coating that goes bad after a few months
Good review, didn’t know that you can sort of flap back the keyboard to the back.
Ordered that one for my M1 12,9. I do write a lot with the Apple Pencil but also need a keyboard for mails and RUclips studio. So I went for the Logitech as I hate to take off the iPad from the magic keyboard. As well: I use it really for work so I have to carry it from one meeting to Another or as well in the shop floor so i really want it protected. Something I cannot get from Apple.
I wished they included the lil flap they have in the 11” version which actually protects the pencil while carrying it around. Let’s see how it will work out the next weeks in use, thanks for the good overview
Thanks. The flap is on the Folio touch and this is the combo touch. Also I have a comparison agains the Magic Keyboard here ruclips.net/video/Yils3qJlcKg/видео.html
@@JerrySchulze good to know,
Thanks for that 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I just received mine. It’s awesome. All other considerations aside, I want to protect my inve$tment. This is a no brainer! Previously the choice was get a protective case (Zugo) or a connected keyboard like the Apple one. This is the best of all possible worlds, currently.
I do a lot of drawing so the detachable aspect really rocks and I can either put the keyboard aside or fold it under, if I’m out and about. The typing experience is far more than adequate and in 5 minutes I was in disbelief that I had used the onscreen keyboard for so many years. I love, love, love the trackpad.
M only concern was that typing while on your lap was allegedly problematic. I find that if I fold one leg over the other and set the case so that my kneecap sits between the lower half of the case’s back and the bottom of the flip out wing, it’s perfectly stable. I wouldn’t do this for long periods of time, but for writing a comment on RUclips, like I’m doing now, or popping off an email, it’s just fine and dandy. If I’m going to be typing for long periods I’d rather be sitting at a desk or table and maintaining good posture.
Very exciting and thanks for sharing! Good tip on lap typing.
great video, I was stuck deciding between the combo touch and magic keyboard. after watching this video, I finally made the decision of buying the combo touch
Glad I could help!
Just got mine now, typing using my combo touch for my iPad Pro 6th gen. Hooray!
Great presentation! I really like the way you demonstrated some of the trackpad gestures and keyboard shortcuts! I also swipe down from right corner, tap on the remote and can use the volume up and down buttons on the keyboard to control volume on our AppleTV and homepods.
Cool, thanks!
I also turn on ‘Tap to Click’ in the trackpad settings of the settings app. :)
Definitely getting the Logitech with the new 12.9 iPad. I currently use a ZAGG keyboard with my iPad , and its almost identical to the Logitech. As you stated…you have more options for use with the Logitech. And the price difference makes it a no-brainer. Thanks for the review.
I picked up both the 12.9 inch iPad Pro and the Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard Case yesterday. So far I’m satisfied with both but I’m still getting familiar with them.
I don’t have an iPad Pro (yet) but watching this made me want to buy it. Great review!
Awesome! Thank you!
I bought the combo touch and magic keyboard yesterday to try them both out. Magic keyboard is going back today.
Fantastic review! I'm purchasing the 10 inch pro soon primarily for illustration and this looks perfect.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thats so cool i didnt know you could reverse the keyboard and flip it! Great review thanks!
Thanks!
the sound is very clear and great quality
I think it's great, the trackpad seems to work surprisingly well, unlike most 3rd party iPad keyboards, I do have a few things to say though.
u said you could completely detach it from the keyboard and use it in full tablet mode, I mean u could do the exact same thing with apple's keyboard. And about that row of function keys, back when I was an all iPad user, I had a 3rd party keyboard with function keys, and tbh I rarely found myself using them. I used command space for spotlight, I never used the virtual keyboard, I used command h to exit applications, and I had my iPad turn off whenever I closed the case so I never used the power key either. I only found myself using function keys for adjusting volume, and rarely for brightness, as I had True Tone enabled.
I think getting a better looking, first party keyboard is worth the trouble of pressing the physical buttons on the iPad or going into the control center to adjust volume, for me at least. I would still get Logitech's keyboard though as I would save a 100 bucks lol.
great video btw 🙌
All good points thanks!
You saved me I was going to purchase magic keyboard from apple for my 2021 iPad Pro 11inch now I am going to buy this hands down ! You also saved me time and money 1 and for 2 adjustment, attachment and 3rd luck the case so my iPad doesn’t get dents or so fourth thank you !
Amazing! Thanks for this review. If I buy the iPad, I'm buying this. 🙌
Glad I could help!
@@JerrySchulze Did the trackpad improved compared to the previous folio touch version? Because it was a bit to clicky and hard to press
SOLD!!!! Another awesome review by awesome Apple products test pilot “Das Jerry”!!!. Yes, those FUNCTION KEYS are a MUST for the iPad Pro. How could you, Apple, neglect those so much needed keys from your Magic Keyboard? And You Apple, charge a lot more?. I was just about to search for a Logitech review for this Combo Touch….and Das Jerry popped into the test lab and show us the wonders of the Combo Touch. Just in the nick of time. I will order it tomorrow first thing in the morning. Even before I order the new 2021 iPad Pro. The reason being is that I have yet to decide what options I’d like in the new device. I have a new Nikon Z50 digital mirrorless camera and it will be using the Halide Mark II Pro Camera App, perfect for the new iPad Pro. Again, thanks Jerry for your review. Be well, be safe, be blessed.
Thanks so much and glad it was helpful!
I recently bought the 12.9 inch m1 iPad Pro and I was thinking whether to get the magic keyboard or the combo touch. But since I have a MacBook sleeve, I’m going to be using it for putting my iPad Pro with the magic keyboard in it to protect the exposed corners. Because of this, I think the magic keyboard is a better buy.
Great review. I used to get paid to review this type stuff and IMO this case is a winner. Logitech makes amazing keyboards. I am still hanging onto a few K811. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing!
Somehow I feel it's a downgrade from the Folio Touch because the top case may fall off (in case of an accident) since it's magnetically attached. But I agree with the fact that Logitech should make a general use case without the keyboard as it looks classy.
Thank you for your review. Which screen protector do you use? Can I close the case with glass protector?
I use the iCarez matte films. For glass I would be concerned about the rubber grip on the edges but I don’t know for sure.
Returning my Magic Keyboard for this.
Why so?
@@JerrySchulze $100 cheaper and the ability to completely detach the keyboard and use the stand is incredible. Plus the added protection of it being an actual case is a plus
Oh and the function row
Good review Jerry. As for overall comparison between this keyboard and 12.9 mkb, could you briefly share your personal preference between the 2 Jerry? In terms of long run usability and practicality. Thanks.
I am sticking with the magic keyboard. Lapability and foot print are to important for me.
@Jerry Schulz. Great review. Is it hard to switch the iPad on and off with the Logitech Combo Touch, as it is with the Logitech Slim Folio Pro?
Super presentation. Awesome job done professionally. Just ordered mine! Thank you!
I love your channel!
Thanks Jacob!
Jacob Nyamu Me too!
I honestly don't know why more case companies don't add the feature of the Kickstand which can separate from the Keyboard, its such a brilliant design, but can be very scarce on Amazon Uk etc. I was always on the Zagg Slim Book designs which were perfect, but these days they seem to be slow at releases in Europe market, so I've decided to drop them and buy the Combo Touch. Specifically purchased because it separates and has a kickstand (for lying in bed watching on your chest, watching at a table)...fantastic product from Logitech and meets all my needs.
I agree. I have looked a thousand times on Amazon.
I have the 12.9 case since 3 days now and I can say that the quality is really nice and the keyboard is perfect as is the trackpad. HOWEVER: this thing adds a lot of weight to the already more heavy 12.9 2021 Ipad pro. it actually adds another 300+ grams, I measured 1040 grams without the keyboard. So you will really feel it. For all 12.9 use cases this is fine, it can also rest nicely on the lap with the fold holding it in reading position. But it makes your 12.9 a 2-hands device, one handed you need gorilla arms to hold it. With the full keyboard, you have 1.45kg of weight.
The tablet is nicely snug in the rubber fold. Writing on it is good and it is protected and nicely on the desk. But you cannot get it out quickly and easily. I think it is good, but it is the necessary compromise of weight vs. protection vs. quality vs. handling you have to make, especially on the large 12.9.
I am having the same issue with this keyboard. Just with the kickstand casing, it makes 12.9 ipad pro really heavy. Its hard to use it as a tablet.
@@coolcat6544 I am slowly getting used to it. The use goes to two handed, though. Upside is the resting position on the lap with the kickstand, better than holding. Also, I am large enough to use with keyboard on my lap. Upside is that it feels better on the desk. I think for more pure one handed tablet use the recommendation is to use an 11 inch without a keyboard, but also in that case I think the pro is overkill and the air or normal the better choice. I keep my old air 1 for the couch potatoe use, the 12.9 is clearly best for artist use and laptop exchange. A kickstand case for only 100g additional weight would be a winner 👀
I have been reading on forums that it drains battery. Is it true?
@@kshitijraina I cannot say as I do not have a comparison. Three things I found with this device: first, it is not suitable to take off and on, this is quite hard to do and if you do it wrong you can even damage the iPad, hence I left it on the whole time. As the back cover provides a good option for putting it onto your knees as a kick stand or onto the table to avoid movement while drawing/writing, I never take it off. Second, the keyboard quite often freezes on the mouse pointer, you can easily revive it with a single keystroke, but still this is pretty annoying. Third, the borders of the rubber that frames the speaker holes on the left side both bulge out - either this is specific to my device or common, I do not know (does not happen on the right side), but clearly is a design error. Not a big deal, but for the price of the device it is a negative. Overall it is a compromise, probably one you have to make. Not sure if the Apple keyboard is better, because if you remove the iPad from it, you have no protection and no flat rest on table due to the camera bulge (bad design by Apple for a tablet).
So the case weighs 12.7 ounces?
Not gonna lie if i had known about this keyboard I’d probably get it over the apple magic keyboard
Well it requires a larger footprint for sure because of the kickstand design.
I had one for the 12.9, I tried to flip the keyboard around to the back and it flew off and broke. I think it might be better suited for the 11 inch.
Hi Jerry, great videos. Love them! Actually, I have a question, what about the flap? Is that resistant to be manipulated all the time? Could it be damaged after permanent using? I’d like to buy one, but I’m not sure if IPad’s keyboard is better or not… thanks!
My wife has been using here's every day for 7 months and the kickstand is just fine.
@@JerrySchulze thanks you!
¡Suscrita a partir de ahora! Excelente trabajo, gracias por hablarnos a detalle, eso me ayuda a decidir entre las dos opciones para mi iPad 😊
Great concise coherent review. So the “prop flap” on the back is held in position by ? Thanks!
It's a hinge with tension.
Thanks for the review. Choosing this over the Magic Keyboard.
I have a full comparison video too if that helps.
Hi Jerry. Detailed review and like your points. Well done. Is it compatible with the 4th gen 12.9 ipad Pro from 2020?
working on testing
@@JerrySchulze hey. Went to apple store and they confirmed it will work so bought one. Very nice experience to use it so far. So much better than magic keyboard. Morecersatile and lighter. Take care
Great Video man. Do you happen to know if the new M1 Mac will fit in the 4th generation Logitech Slim Folio Pro case or do I have to buy a new one of those?
Why doesn't think s guy have 100k subs instead of 17k. He is just so direct in saying things and doing things
Thanks!
The Logitech is obviously the better and cheaper choice. I think it’s just about how important the floating tablet thing is, at least for me - still undecided…
I would love to but the kickstand case without the keyboard!
I got the previous Logitech Touch Keyboard instead of this new detachable one. Currently the Logitech goes for $145, but about a week ago it was $120, and I don't feel that the ability to detach the keyboard is worth $70. I feel like I would have the keyboard attached the majority of the time anyways. The last Gen-model also has the little flap for your pencil; where I will say that it doesn't feel like the magnet would ever become week enough for the pencil to fall off (it is seriously on there!)... its nice to have! I think the older model is worth it at the $120...
A couple negatives for the Combo Touch. The footprint the Combo Touch takes up is much much larger than the Magic Keyboard. You have the keyboard which is basically the dimension of the IPad Pro + the distance the tablet leans back + the distance of the kickstand protruding out back. 99% NOT something to use on the lap. And even on a desk, you better not have anything behind the iPad as you set it down. The Magic Keyboard’s footprint is only a little bigger than the size of the iPad itself. Much more compact.
The other negative is the cut out for the Thunderbolt port is too small. If any cables, dongles etc is not deep enough, you cannot plug it in. Logitech should have left that portion wide open.
Also the trade off of having nice thick bumpers is you cannot use adapters like the one from Anker that plugs into the USB C port and provides more ports or SD/micro SD card reader access. You have to use a dongle that has a cable.
Absolutely agree on the footprint. As for cables I havnt had an issue with any of mine. I have Apple Anker and some others.
Agree 100%, i wanted to keep the Logitech but the footprint was the reason i decided to return and keep the magic keyboard. If you want to use the iPad on your lap or use in a plane the additional footprint of the Logitech would be an issue.
Great review mate, really pointed out a lot of important points, i just thought you missed one - how good is the logitech (12.9 inch) when used on the lap? As the kickstand doesn’t have a lot of center weight, i think the case could be a little messy when used in the lap, compared to Apple’s. What has your experience been regarding this? Thanks
its not good. Wobbly and you need a lot of leg to use it.
i would love if the folio touch was also for the 12.9
Will the 12.9 inch version work with the ipad pro 2020 ?
Excellent video, Jerry, thank you! After watching a number of different videos you've helped me to finally decide to go for the Logitech. But I have one concern. Since Apple has decided to remove the headphone jack I'll want to also buy a USB-C hub. But I've heard that certain hubs may not connect well to the Logitech port because of the surrounding case. Have you any insight into that issue, please? 👍
I tried a couple for cables. The port is a little flexible and most cable should be able to fit even if you have to push a little harder b
@@JerrySchulze Thanks for the info, Jerry. Much appreciated. 👍
I bought both folio and combo.. folio has pencil holder which i like most.. the combo has no pemcil
Holder bit its flexible
I know this is dated and there are bigger things to cover but I tried the Combo with the 3rd gen (2018) iPad pro 12.9" and I connected it to the Caldigit SOHO you recommended a while back and guess what, it fits and works great. Thanks
Whoop whoop!
I decided to with the Logitech one specially after Amazon sold it for £150 in the UK.
Just ordered, thank you!!
great video, now I’ve just got to make sure I’m buying the right one as any search engine gives me loads of different ones all from the same company, I hate search engines
Great case been using it for a week
Very informative. I am happy I made a right decision.
I have a 12.9" 4th gen and I really love these ipad keyboards from logitech. Is there any chance this one fits the old ipad pro? They are very similar! Thank you!
It will fit. I have the 2020 and it fits in the combo touch. The speak grills don’t quite line up perfectly, but otherwise works fine.
Is it tilted like folio touch when you put it on your lap or it is hard connected to the cover through magnet? I don’t know if I could send you my message. 2:39 when you take the folio touch it is tilted a little bit. What about combo touch?
Yes, it is not super rigid like the magic keyboard on lap.
Does the Logitec trackpad really work well ? Is the "klick" of the same quality no matter where it gets done or does the upper part of the trackpad demand heavier push ? I heard there are some problems. Correct me, if I'm wrong. Thanks.
On mine it was very similar to Apple. Click anywhere on this version.
Excellent video and explanation!!! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Does it work on ipad pro 2018 if not which one should i buy?
Screw the keyboards. All I want is that Logitech kickstand.
Love your honesty and detail especially since I work for a certain tech company lol 😆
I like that you can attach the keyboard backwards and still go tablet mode with it.
Will the 11 in. version fit the ipad Air? I purchased Logitech Folio Touch but wish the keyboard detached like the Combo Touch. I imagine the Touch ID is covered, but this isn't a deal breaker for me. Thanks!
Yes, Touch ID will be covered. You can get the folio touch but it doesn't detach from the keyboard.
I recently purchased the 11 inch pro. I’m debating between the protection of an otter box vs the productivity of the Logitech. Does great Logitech offer protection for drops? Thanks
I think to a point. It’s still a 1lb glass sandwich.
Love the functionality. Not a fan of the dull office grey. Makes the iPad look very not kewl.
I actually love the colour, it will hide most of the wears and tears. You can get the logitech pebble mouse with the exact same colour for a matching set up.
Hi Jerry, just want to check if you had a difficulty in two gesture scrolling/swiping? I bought mine however you need to constantly reconnect the keyboard to fix the two gesture scrolling.
Hmm, I did not see any issue with that. Did you contact Logi?
thanks for the video im sold on it .
Please review the Logitech Rugged touch as it looks to more well built
Great video, can you please recommend a screen protector that will fit with the combo touch and 11 inch 2021 ipad pro
I like the iCarez geni.us/3fIgk and I have a video if that helps ruclips.net/video/y7mhiDdfl0U/видео.html
@@JerrySchulze thanks, Jerry really appreciate it.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing. It’s really a useful presentation =)
Awesome! Let me know if this one helps too ruclips.net/video/Yils3qJlcKg/видео.html
watching this with my 8 gen gold 128gb its really smooth i like to typing and minimize to small size my keyword
Hey man thanks for the vid! It is great! I got some issue for the mute button, i think it the mute button on the keyboard doesn’t work, and when i asked the shop assistant back about it, they told me that it only works on a certain application like for music. Is it true? Cheers man
I’ve got the combo touch and overall it’s great, the two things that give me pause however are the kickstand and back fabric; the kickstand doesn’t feel like a hinged piece of metal but instead one that is being bent back and forth, my concern is that it will eventually loosen and snap, it also doesn’t have a clear stop point when opening it out so can be opened too far putting excess strain on the hinge/metal. The back fabric on mine has already started to crease and come away from the metal at the ‘hinge’ point and you can hear the adhesive separate as you open and close the kickstand.
Have you experienced either of these with yours? Wondering if I have a defective unit.
I have the same thing with the fabric making a crease and I can hear the adhesive separating. I guess it's just the design of the hinge - it's not perfect.
Honestly I think I’ll just keep my speck folio case and just get a separate keyboard. I mean detaching the keyboard anyway for tablet use.
Excellent review! You pointed out the use and versatility of the kickstand which is a major reason to buy this instead of the Magic Keyboard, however Clicking on your link, this model ships in one or two months. Is there any keyboard case with kickstand that will fit the newest iPad Pro 12.9 that is readily available?
Ouch, its that far out now? I haven't found others like this.
@@JerrySchulze Thanks for your reply. I will probably get this, ZUGU Case for 2021 iPad Pro 12.9 inch Gen 5 - Ultra Slim Protective Case, from Amazon. Ironically, also not available until July. smile.amazon.com/dp/B093R1SGLJ/?coliid=I33LU759K33H8J&colid=X308WH4HBGJI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
I have a Zugu case for my older iPad Pro and it is a high quality durable case with an adjustable tent stand. It does not have a keyboard but that is not a priority for me since the touch screen typing on the iPad works so well. Thanks again for your information and best of luck with your RUclips channel.
I had the same timeline pop up so I checked out best buy and it was available for pickup in store, so maybe check there? I’m sad that my purchase can’t support this channel because Jerry’s review convinced me to buy it. :/
I appreciate the thought and its too bad it is showing such a delay.
i currently have the combo touch and it works amazing with a nice design. however the magic keyboard is still on my mind solely for it's weight. to carry the combo touch around, it's pretty heavy
Does the keyboard work separately if unattached from the iPad? I’m assuming no, but can you confirm? Thanks!
Correct.
how is the trackpad of this keyboard over the magic keyboard? does it function better than the magic keyboard?
better? no. Magic is smaller but better IMO.
@@JerrySchulze thanks a lot for letting me know! guess i’ll have to go with the magic keyboard!
Thanks for the review but do you know why when attached the iPad keyboard still shows up and I cannot get rid of it. I bought this so that I can have the extra real estate to do my work. Thinking about returning it….
That Call of Duty draw looks nice on the iPad haha
Thanks for this review! I’m curious about one thing: I had the Combo Touch case for an older 2nd-gen iPad Pro 12.9, and it was mostly great… except that when the keyboard cover was closed, when carrying the iPad Pro by its "spine" (the opposite side of the volume buttons) you could inadvertently trigger the Play button on the hardware keyboard! I can’t count how many times that random songs started playing while I was carrying my iPad or when it was in my backpack. It was the ONE infuriating thing about that design. This keyboard case looks scarily similar to that case, so I’m concerned if it has the same problem. Would you please try testing that?
Hi I don't use it every day but my wife does and she has never had that issue. I can't say for sure if you would still have that problem.
@@JerrySchulze hmmmm ok, thank you for the info
Hello, I have the magic keyboard currently, I don’t like that my pencil comes off super easy, already lost one and had to buy another. I don’t like there are no function keys. I work in a clean room environment so my question to you about this keyboard is what is the “durable material” you highlight in the video? Is it a cloth type or just textured plastic. I cannot use a cloth case inside a clean room environment. Otherwise, thanks so much for the comparison video… it highlights the function keys but seems the lack of pencil safety is still a negative for me… :(
Yes, it is a textile fabric of some kind.
Did the trackpad improved compared to the previous folio touch version?
So, I think the trackpad is very much like the Magic Keyboard on this version.
@@JerrySchulze so they improved it a lo; thanks for your answer