Hi, all! CLARIFICATION re: speaker grills. The iPad Pro I used in this video is the 2020, 11-inch model (2nd Generation), which Logitech’s website list as compatible with the Combo Touch. However, the 2021, 11-inch model (3rd Generation) doesn’t have any problems with the speaker holes misaligning. Check out my review of the Apple Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro/iPad Air here: ruclips.net/video/8F3BYQuc0yg/видео.html
Thanks for your great review. Do Logitech make a Combo Touch specifically for the 1st (2018) and 2nd (2020) Generation 11'' iPad Pros so that the speaker and mic holes do line up?
@@stevenrobertson4190 Not as far as I know - the Logitech website (www.logitech.com/en-us/products/ipad-keyboards/combo-touch-ipad.html) just says the keyboard and case are for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen, 11 inch iPad Pros (and the 5th Gen 12.9 inch), as well as a couple of iPad Air models. If anyone knows of any versions made specifically for the 2018 or 2020 models, please let me know!
@@iqbal1618 I bought it myself, Well there are pros and cons Pros 1-price 2-material 3-flexibility of taking the keyboard off and not worrying about it dropping cause of good protection Cons 1-it takes a lot of space on your desk 2-additional weight (especially with keyboard)
I have a Logitech Combo Touch that is marketed as being suitable for use with the 10.9-in iPad Air 4, 10.9-in Air 5 and 1-in iPad Pro and I use it with an iPad Air 5. There are no issues with the speaker or microphone holes being mis-aligned. I found the trackpad to be quite responsive and haven't had to change the sensitivity in settings.
I have this keyboard case for the 2021 M1 12.9 inch iPad Pro. It is sturdy, beautiful and functional. Very heavy, but that’s OK with me. Most of the time I am using the iPad detached from the keyboard, and love that my “Investment” is well protected!
Hi, could you please let us know how much the case weighs after the keyboard is removed? I have looked everywhere, even asked Logitech support but even they could not help me with the weight of the case detached from keyboard. It’s incredibly frustrating to decide if I should buy it or not because I don’t want a super heavy case without the keyboard. Thanks !
Thanks - should have mentioned this in the vid. Logitech’s website say the case is also for the 2nd gen (2020) model. But yep, 2021 users shouldn’t have problems with holes misaligning.
I enjoyed the brief review, but was surprised that one of the main feature of this keyboard/case, the function keys at the top of the keyboard, doesn’t feature in your review at all. I have an iPad Pro 12” with an Apple Magic Keyboard case, and an iPad 9th generation 10.2” with the Logitech Combo Touch keyboard case, and whilst the Apple keyboard case is spectacularly expensive, I do really enjoy the ‘instant on’ nature of unfolding it and just beginning to work on the iPad Pro, which isn’t quite so nimble as the Logitech keyboard case, with the extra step of unfolding and adjusting the back flap. However, the Logitech keyboard case shines with the function keys at the top of the keyboard, that are specific to the iPad and I cannot quite believe that Apple did not add a similar row of keys to their own expensive keyboard, to create a really professional, productive keyboard to use with their top-of-the-range iPad Pro. Logitech are easily ahead with this feature on their keyboard case and at a significantly less expensive cost to the user, this makes that option on my iPad 9th generation, a really productive and a ‘pro’ feature that is entirely absent from Apple’s own Magic Keyboard case - there are not function keys whatsoever. That, I would have thought, might have made your review more complete and informative and, I should imagine, persuaded more people to seriously consider this range as viable alternatives to Apple’s own models…
Absolutely loved this video! I was looking for a video that talks about the pros and cons and this is perfect! I was so surprised to see that you only have 62 subscribers. Keep up the great content and you’ll definitely make it big. Looking forward to your future content :)
Thanks. You've convinced me. The Logitech seems like a much better case than the Magic Keyboard. The function keys are great, and the MK does not have them. But I've heard that the keys and the trackpad on the MK are better than the Logitech. BUT the real show stopper for me you did not mention. Once the iPad is in the Logitech case, you cannot use the biometric function. So, it's Magic Keyboard for me. Maybe a separate bag to carry it around in.
I have this on the new iPad 2021 and it is relatively bulky but love the extra protection (got it for my young son) and keyboard attachment. Trackmap needs double tap/click function across the entire pad, not only bottom. Seriously this is the only option if you put this in childrens (any age) hands.
If I were going to get a keyboard I would go for this one over ipad one. There are a couple $50-$60 keyboard-covers that I would consider on Amazon too. I have not bought a keyboard yet, because from a software standpoint my laptop is the better choice. I am new to tablets and iPad, I love it, but one irritation is I use it in portrait mode and type. The pen is in the way on my sleek everyday case. I was thinking maybe a magnet setup on the back or top could solve the issue. I could use a case that covers the pen but they are bulky and it makes the whole frame wider, which is not good for typing in portrait mode.
Ah yes, good point - attachable keyboards are basically unusable in portrait mode. I’d probably opt for a detached, Bluetooth keyboard in this case - but that’s also not ideal, because it’s clunky and doesn’t double up as a case. Hopefully soon we’ll get decent iPad keyboard cases that are still usable with Bluetooth when detached!
Hey! Great review video. Most of the reviews on YT show only the good stuff; your review is what i was looking for because i also have a 2020 iPad Pro and i am looking to get this keyboard. I had the Folio Touch which was great and i did a review on it; it had some flaws but i could live with them. The only reason why i want this case is because I can detach the Keyboard and use the tablet as... a tablet 😀 The holes for the speaker are made for the M1 iPad Pro, but i am not too bothered about it as most of the time i listed on the headset. I have to decide between the Combo Touch, the Brydge Air Max+ and the Magic Keyboard...
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
@@talhatariq6420 Hi, I haven’t had any of these issues. I used the Folio Touch for a couple of months until i changed it with the Combo Touch and the keyboard works fine. It is connected via the Smart Connector and works faster and it is more reliable than a Bluetooth keyboard.
thank you，very informative review. I was just thinking about placing an order, however the incorrect speaker hole really stopped me. I plan to buy a case and Bluetooth keyboard separately.
I’ve been using this for the last month after my Laptop motherboard died, took some time to get used to the way the IOS worked with a keyboard. But as a service engineer I have gone totally paperless, the my customers can now sign my reports using my Apple Pencil, I love it and think it’s good value for the money.
Yes, true! I should have pointed out in the video that I was testing the case with a 2020 11 inch iPad Pro, which Logitech advertise as supported by the Combo Touch. But anyone with a 2021 iPad Pro won’t have problems with speaker holes misaligning! 😀
First video I saw that showed detaching the keyboard and placing it to the back to prop up which reduced the physical footprint. I appreciate that as it was a drawback for me. I also appreciate your attention to the speaker holes. Didn’t really see anyone go in depth that either. I really think logi should’ve made sure all holes were exposed aesthetically.
I don't understand what you're saying about the keyboard. It reduces the physical footprint when you placed the keyboard backwards, yet it's a drawback? you can just take the keyboard off entirely and set it aside, too, so not sure what your point is
I have had the case for almost two days. Before using this case, I was using the Magic Keyboard case. Between the two the one I prefer is the combo touch, and this is due primarily to the functionality of the case. Before I go into that, what interested me about the Combo touch is the protection it offers for the iPad. The case wraps the entire iPad in this enclosed fabric like material and hard rubber. The case itself does feel a little less stable than the Magic keyboard but for me this has not been a deal breaker. The typing experience is quite similar to that of the Magic Keyboard which offers the best in class in typing for the iPad. Where you find the difference is in the tracked. Now the Combo Touch trackpad is not bad, just its a little too sensitive to me which causes accidental touches that you don’t get on the Magic Keyboard. Where the Combo touch really shines over the Magic Keyboard is in the viewing angles. I really feel that the Magic Keyboard is meant more for someone who is going to use it on a solid surface, where the Combo touch is more Versatel and you can detach it from the keyboard without sacrificing protection for your iPad. Either platforms you will not be disappointed, but for me I think I prefer the Combo touch.
Great points! Totally agree about the Combo Touch being more suited for hard surfaces - I’ve found it a little uncomfortable to use on my lap on the couch (e.g.), but definitely not a deal breaker for me.
@@jimbrennan7415 Oh yes, thanks! I misread - my bad. I’ve found the Combo Touch harder to use on my lap and soft surfaces, personally. But also: the thinness of the keyboard does mean that it doesn’t give as much resistance when typing on a hard surfaces compared with the magic keyboard.
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
Hate the kick stand for lounging around and no coverage for the pencil…. Yeah, you can flip the keyboard to the back, but no lounging and typing…. Great video though!
I have this case with my 2022 M2 12' iPad Pro. None the the issues you mentioned with the keyboard feel or responsiveness has bothered me at all as I am not a keyboard "power user." It works fine for my uses. However one thing you did not mention is that the opening in the case around the USB-C port does not allow for plugging in my Anker 541 USB-C hub. To use this, I have to completely remove the iPad from the case or, I guess find a USB-C to USB-C cable to connect it. Damned annoying. But I still find this to be an excellent alternative to Apple's absurdly priced Magic Keyboard, especially with the extra protection it offers as well as the row of utility keys it adds.
For the speakers it’s designed for the 3rd gen 11 inch iPad Pro which has different speaker holes. So don’t say that a company should have done something when you should have gotten a different iPad/case
This keyboard/case is listed and sold as compatible with 3rd ,2nd and 1st generation 11 inch ipad pros on both Logtech's and Apple's websites. Many people would buy on the strength of this listed information only to find the case doesn't quite line up on the 2nd generation.(no idea about the 1st generation) Logitech even has a photograph of the corner of the case with the case holes lined up with the speaker holes with the caption 'ipad pro 11 inch (1st,2nd and 3rd gen)model. I only know now because I found my way here to this excellent review which I'm grateful for for pointing up this potential flaw. Perhaps Logitech doesn't consider it enough of a problem to rejig the production line.
@@JG-oc9gc Scroll down past the main header to 'Compatibility' where it clearly states it is compatible with- iPad Models iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation) iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation) iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation) As clear as day.
@@JG-oc9gc You do understand the definition of compatible,don't you? The spec does not say Compatible* iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation) iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation)* iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation)* *in physical size not features. The only reason we're having this ridiculous exchange is because you read the main header on the Apple site and took a cheap shot at Alex the reviewer on the basis of that without reading the full spec and now simply can't admit you got your facts wrong.
The case you have is made for the 2021 model and the speaker holes are designed for the new iPad, not the 2020 version. You should make that clear in your review..
Yep, appreciate this. Thanks, Colm. I’ve clarified in the comments that Logitech adversities the Combo Touch as compatible with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen 11 inch iPad Pro, but that the hole misalignment issue won’t apply with the 2021 models. I’ll take a look and see if I can add a slide into the video to clarify that, too - and will be able to do so in a couple of days!
Interesting - I definitely noticed some sound muffle with the speaker covered (but I’m sure it also depends on what you’re playing). Didn’t notice the mic quality being affected but the case at all!
@@AlexRodzianko maybe due to variation in manufacturing, or the added sound pressure made by covering up some whole, since the speakers do not actually completely fill the holes underneath🤔
What a great video!! I have this in my ipad pro 2021. Just a quiestion, 3:06 any of you also have that little curve that you can barely appreciate but is still there?
Great review. I already have the logitech combo touch. BTW the speaker hole is a non-issue with my 2022 13” ipad pro. I use 4 different languages set up on my system settings keyboard. I change through them with the world key. I agree about weight. It is heavy. Still getting used to that. Between going from the 11” with the smart keyboard folio to this is like going to a pilates course for you wrist and hands. The perfect case would have been the smart keyboard folio but with backlit keys. There were too many times with that keyboard where I could not read the keys in dark areas. No problem with this keyboard.
Yep, I guess so - and to be fair the difference isn’t much (but still a little noticeable). The 12.9 inch has much better speakers, too, so that could be why there isn’t any real difference with that size iPad.
@@AlexRodzianko Much appreciated! www.zagg.com/en_us/pro-keys-track-pad-ipad-11 Currently it's 30% off when you purchase two (2) or more products on ZAGG.com. Hopefully it's a good time to get it
@Alex Rodzianko Good review. Subscribed. Is there an earlier version that has the cutaways to line up with the speaker holes of the 2018 11" IPad Pro so won't cause any blockage of sound? This is important to me as I find the volume/sound level of my 2018 iPad to be only adequate and have it on maximum settings. I don't know if the 2020 and 2021 M1 versions of the 11" iPad Pros have quite a low sound level volume too? Currently using a Logitech Slim Folio Pro (no trackpad) which is excellent. Edit: I believe Logitech make 2 versions of this keyboard for the 11" iPad Pro. There is a version for the 1st and 2nd Generation 11" iPad Pro and the latest version which is for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Generation 11" iPad Pros. But the latest version, as in this review, does not match the speaker holes of the 1st and 2nd generation 11" iPad Pros, as you have shown. I don't know if the earlier version, which is cheaper at £149.99 at John Lewis, for the 1st and 2nd Generation 11" iPad Pros, have the speaker cutaways aligned. There are also 2 versions for the 12.9" versions of the iPad Pro. First is stated to be for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations, and the other one is stated to be for the 5th generation. Couldn't see one on the John Lewis website for the 4th generation of the 12.9" iPad Pro. I don't know if the speaker cutaways line up on any of them.
I wish there was magnets on the Logitech keyboard between the keys not that strong but strong enough so that it will stay in put when in that orientation
Hi @Alex, great review. Thanks. I have the same clicking sound on the left side… I also have a clicking sound when opening and closing the keyboard. It seems to be in the attachment point between the keyboard and iPad. Do you experience that too? And you are right, you might expect more from such an expensive keyboard. Thanks, Niels
Hi Niels! Thanks for sharing. Interestingly, I haven’t noticed a clicking sound when opening/closing the case, but would be good to know if others have. Yep, the build quality and general feel could be better for the price, but it’s not a deal breaker, at least IMO! 😀
Hey Great vid. Just a heads up for you if you go to settings and search key repeat a setting under accessibility should pop up. If u go into the key repeat setting u should be able to lower the interval and delay speeds which should speed up deleting when holding down a key. I have mine set to 0.03s and 0.20s but I think you can go lower.
Just looked into these settings and lowered them as much as possible. You’re right: they make a big difference (esp. with word delete speed). Awesome tip: thanks, Alex! 😀
I subbed! Your videos are very professional and I was surprised you only just had over 100 subscribers. Quick question: would you recommend an iPad Pro or a MacBook for a “bachelor of secondary education” student at university? Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words! If your choice is between the two, I would 100% recommend going with a MacBook. iPad OS is just too awkward (imo) for productivity and everyday tasks - unless the bulk of your work is illustration etc and you really need a stylus. (But even then windows 2-in-1s might be worth checking out!) I think the iPad Pro just hasn’t come far enough as a laptop replacement yet (and probably won’t for the foreseeable future). But if you can find a way, try them both out a little, and see how you find them!
I have been using Logitech Slim Folio keyboards/cases for years and I love them. Great customer support, and value vs price. You mentioned typing special characters or foreign language characters. I work in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese and I just have to select the language and use the the key combinations that have been around for ages ( i.e. apostrophe c for a ç) easy peasy. I had a Logitech Slim Folio go bad and they actually offered to send me one from the USA to Brazil but the importation duties would have been greater than the value of the keyboard. I bought one locally from Logitech and they credited my credit card with the full value that I had paid in the USA. Apple might not have done that, and would have said “just pop into an Apple store in the USA and we will give you a replacement (after I had spent thousands of dollars for an airline ticket from Brazil to the USA) not a real solution. Cheers mate.
Cheers, Greg - very helpful! I guess those keyboard shortcuts are a great way to access special characters (and anyone who works a lot in different languages will probably know the shortcuts anyway, so it shouldn’t be an issue). Also, glad Logitech were so helpful for you :)
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
Can you separate the keyboard, put the iPad in a stand at say eye-level, and still type without the keyboard being physically connected? Thanks for your answer.
@@AlexRodzianko Hi Alex, thanks for the rapid response and the calm and informative video. I had it in my Amazon basket, but have now taken it out. This “use case” where you have the iPad and keyboard separate for ergonomic reasons is why Bluetooth, is arguably better than the proprietary connector. Everything else about this case is great, so it’s a shame. I swapped out the Logitech for an Ipevo Do-Cam, which is another productivity tool I need.
i wish they make a version without a built-in trackpad for those who don't really quite use it. All the same functionality, without the trackpad, like what they did with the slim combo for iPad 9.7.
Yeah that would be pretty sweet for people that just connect to a Bluetooth mouse if they really want external pointer control. Wonder if Logitech will make one... 🤔
7:05 I have a workaround that and I’ve been using that for some time. On a Windows computer I would hold down the shift key and press the up arrow. Wonder if that works on iPad.
Yes, the pencil will easily fall off… you can buy an adhesive pencil sleeve though. I have one stuck on the back of the keyboard for when the iPad goes in my backpack.
If you're still considering: yep, the pencil does come off occasionally for me when travelling and the case is in my bag. But I haven't noticed it being a huge issue, and a lot of the time it stays in place well enough. I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker.
I've a 2020 ipad pro 11", currently using the logitech folio touch but I was drawn to this new model because of the detachable keyboard function. how much of a deal breaker would you say the speaker holes are? I consume quite a fair bit of media on my ipad so I'm just wondering if and how much it affects the volume with the holes misaligned
The hole misalignment issue definitely isn’t a deal breaker for me, personally. (I use my iPad with headphones a lot, though, so speaker quality isn’t a huge concern of mine.) If you are listening to a lot of content/media out loud, then the difference in sound with the case on vs off still shouldn’t be much. (A lot of people are saying they can’t tell the difference, and I’ve only noticed a bit of muffle when playing some music, but not consistently so.) I don’t think you should have a problem! 😀
Hi, all! CLARIFICATION re: speaker grills. The iPad Pro I used in this video is the 2020, 11-inch model (2nd Generation), which Logitech’s website list as compatible with the Combo Touch. However, the 2021, 11-inch model (3rd Generation) doesn’t have any problems with the speaker holes misaligning.
Check out my review of the Apple Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro/iPad Air here: ruclips.net/video/8F3BYQuc0yg/видео.html
Thanks for your great review. Do Logitech make a Combo Touch specifically for the 1st (2018) and 2nd (2020) Generation 11'' iPad Pros so that the speaker and mic holes do line up?
@@stevenrobertson4190 Not as far as I know - the Logitech website (www.logitech.com/en-us/products/ipad-keyboards/combo-touch-ipad.html) just says the keyboard and case are for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen, 11 inch iPad Pros (and the 5th Gen 12.9 inch), as well as a couple of iPad Air models. If anyone knows of any versions made specifically for the 2018 or 2020 models, please let me know!
@@AlexRodzianko Thank you for the quick response. That rules it out for me.
The reason the speakers don’t match because your iPad Pro is the 2020 version which has more speaker holes. The 2021 version fits perfectly.
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u saved me buddy thanks a lot should i buy this compare to magic keyboard
@@iqbal1618 I bought it myself,
Well there are pros and cons
Pros
1-price
2-material
3-flexibility of taking the keyboard off and not worrying about it dropping cause of good protection
Cons
1-it takes a lot of space on your desk
2-additional weight (especially with keyboard)
I bought the logi one. I like the flexibility and its material. The material that logi uses seems much more durable than apple's.
@@alysallam9547 Can totally agree, bought it as well and I am happy with it because for me the cons dont matter as much
6:36 This applies to every hardware keyboards. But you can enable it by go to Settings > Accessibility > Keyboards > Key Repeat > On
I have a Logitech Combo Touch that is marketed as being suitable for use with the 10.9-in iPad Air 4, 10.9-in Air 5 and 1-in iPad Pro and I use it with an iPad Air 5. There are no issues with the speaker or microphone holes being mis-aligned. I found the trackpad to be quite responsive and haven't had to change the sensitivity in settings.
By the way, i believe that the "incorrectly sized holes" are because the 5th generation iPad Pro has a different sized speaker grill.
Yes this is definitely the “case”. See what I did there?
I have this keyboard case for the 2021 M1 12.9 inch iPad Pro. It is sturdy, beautiful and functional. Very heavy, but that’s OK with me. Most of the time I am using the iPad detached from the keyboard, and love that my “Investment” is well protected!
Hi, could you please let us know how much the case weighs after the keyboard is removed? I have looked everywhere, even asked Logitech support but even they could not help me with the weight of the case detached from keyboard. It’s incredibly frustrating to decide if I should buy it or not because I don’t want a super heavy case without the keyboard. Thanks !
@@asishreddy7729 were you able to find out? I’m looking for the same thing
I love this keyboard. There are so many nice features. My speakers fit accurately. I have the 2021 and this was made for this ipad version.
I think the holes don’t align because you’re using a 2020 iPad Pro, mate.
Thanks - should have mentioned this in the vid. Logitech’s website say the case is also for the 2nd gen (2020) model. But yep, 2021 users shouldn’t have problems with holes misaligning.
I bought the older one. It was half price and I use my iPad for work not media consumption, so it doesn’t matter.
@@AlexRodzianko Is this true for both the speaker and the microphone alignment? All okay on the latest model?
@@IAmRobertAndrews The mic is also covered on the 2021 model, but that shouldn’t produce a noticeable difference in mic quality!
Out of so many reviews and believe me i watched a tonne of them, yours was the most honest. Keep it up!
Honestly it’s the little things like what you mentioned that I worry about that I don’t think any other RUclipsr even touched on great work!!
Thanks, Ben! Glad it was helpful!
I enjoyed the brief review, but was surprised that one of the main feature of this keyboard/case, the function keys at the top of the keyboard, doesn’t feature in your review at all. I have an iPad Pro 12” with an Apple Magic Keyboard case, and an iPad 9th generation 10.2” with the Logitech Combo Touch keyboard case, and whilst the Apple keyboard case is spectacularly expensive, I do really enjoy the ‘instant on’ nature of unfolding it and just beginning to work on the iPad Pro, which isn’t quite so nimble as the Logitech keyboard case, with the extra step of unfolding and adjusting the back flap. However, the Logitech keyboard case shines with the function keys at the top of the keyboard, that are specific to the iPad and I cannot quite believe that Apple did not add a similar row of keys to their own expensive keyboard, to create a really professional, productive keyboard to use with their top-of-the-range iPad Pro. Logitech are easily ahead with this feature on their keyboard case and at a significantly less expensive cost to the user, this makes that option on my iPad 9th generation, a really productive and a ‘pro’ feature that is entirely absent from Apple’s own Magic Keyboard case - there are not function keys whatsoever. That, I would have thought, might have made your review more complete and informative and, I should imagine, persuaded more people to seriously consider this range as viable alternatives to Apple’s own models…
Absolutely LOVE my Logitech Case. Perfect for my 12.9 inch M1 IPad Pro
Absolutely loved this video! I was looking for a video that talks about the pros and cons and this is perfect! I was so surprised to see that you only have 62 subscribers. Keep up the great content and you’ll definitely make it big. Looking forward to your future content :)
Thanks, Sandy! Great to hear the video was helpful 😀
I just bought this and love it. The design of my case is different as it has rows of holes instead of a slot. iPad is A2377 Pro 11 gen 3.
I'm using the first version of this and was thinking of upgrading to this. Thank you, saved me some money.
I have iPad Air and it’s perfect on it not like the iPad pro!
Hello i was late this time 🙁 i was camping but better late then never! Great review. 😀
Thanks Zander, hope you enjoyed camping! :)
I have since yesterday the case and I am very happy with it.
Thanks. You've convinced me. The Logitech seems like a much better case than the Magic Keyboard. The function keys are great, and the MK does not have them. But I've heard that the keys and the trackpad on the MK are better than the Logitech. BUT the real show stopper for me you did not mention. Once the iPad is in the Logitech case, you cannot use the biometric function. So, it's Magic Keyboard for me. Maybe a separate bag to carry it around in.
I have this on the new iPad 2021 and it is relatively bulky but love the extra protection (got it for my young son) and keyboard attachment. Trackmap needs double tap/click function across the entire pad, not only bottom. Seriously this is the only option if you put this in childrens (any age) hands.
I think I’m going to get this case for my husband . The Magic Keyboard just seems alittle too short when typing . Thanks
If I were going to get a keyboard I would go for this one over ipad one. There are a couple $50-$60 keyboard-covers that I would consider on Amazon too. I have not bought a keyboard yet, because from a software standpoint my laptop is the better choice. I am new to tablets and iPad, I love it, but one irritation is I use it in portrait mode and type. The pen is in the way on my sleek everyday case. I was thinking maybe a magnet setup on the back or top could solve the issue. I could use a case that covers the pen but they are bulky and it makes the whole frame wider, which is not good for typing in portrait mode.
Ah yes, good point - attachable keyboards are basically unusable in portrait mode. I’d probably opt for a detached, Bluetooth keyboard in this case - but that’s also not ideal, because it’s clunky and doesn’t double up as a case. Hopefully soon we’ll get decent iPad keyboard cases that are still usable with Bluetooth when detached!
Hey! Great review video. Most of the reviews on YT show only the good stuff; your review is what i was looking for because i also have a 2020 iPad Pro and i am looking to get this keyboard. I had the Folio Touch which was great and i did a review on it; it had some flaws but i could live with them.
The only reason why i want this case is because I can detach the Keyboard and use the tablet as... a tablet 😀
The holes for the speaker are made for the M1 iPad Pro, but i am not too bothered about it as most of the time i listed on the headset.
I have to decide between the Combo Touch, the Brydge Air Max+ and the Magic Keyboard...
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
@@talhatariq6420 Hi, I haven’t had any of these issues. I used the Folio Touch for a couple of months until i changed it with the Combo Touch and the keyboard works fine. It is connected via the Smart Connector and works faster and it is more reliable than a Bluetooth keyboard.
thank you，very informative review. I was just thinking about placing an order, however the incorrect speaker hole really stopped me. I plan to buy a case and Bluetooth keyboard separately.
Amazing review, best one i’ve seen so far! Totally hit every point that was important to me! Thank you for the great review!
Great vid, just subscribed. Thanks for all the information
Awesome! Thanks Centric 😀
I’ve been using this for the last month after my Laptop motherboard died, took some time to get used to the way the IOS worked with a keyboard. But as a service engineer I have gone totally paperless, the my customers can now sign my reports using my Apple Pencil, I love it and think it’s good value for the money.
Can you write normally with Apple Pencil while the keyboard is attached?? Or do u have to remove it evertime
@@Confusednemo1506 you can write with the keyboard attached for any app that supports the Apple Pencil, (Adobe, XL, Word, Numbers, Write etc) 👍
7:00 Just hit CMD and backspace or option and backspace - you will delete by words or either by entire rows.... You are welcome :)
true - good tip!
These speaker holes are made for the new M1 iPad pro!
Yes, true! I should have pointed out in the video that I was testing the case with a 2020 11 inch iPad Pro, which Logitech advertise as supported by the Combo Touch. But anyone with a 2021 iPad Pro won’t have problems with speaker holes misaligning! 😀
@@AlexRodzianko ohhhhhh, I had a feeling your was the 2020 lol good to know
First video I saw that showed detaching the keyboard and placing it to the back to prop up which reduced the physical footprint. I appreciate that as it was a drawback for me. I also appreciate your attention to the speaker holes. Didn’t really see anyone go in depth that either. I really think logi should’ve made sure all holes were exposed aesthetically.
The speaker holes fit on the 2021 iPads.
I don't understand what you're saying about the keyboard. It reduces the physical footprint when you placed the keyboard backwards, yet it's a drawback? you can just take the keyboard off entirely and set it aside, too, so not sure what your point is
Thank you doing a smart review!!! I knew you could swap it around 😎
Great video.😊
I have had the case for almost two days. Before using this case, I was using the Magic Keyboard case. Between the two the one I prefer is the combo touch, and this is due primarily to the functionality of the case. Before I go into that, what interested me about the Combo touch is the protection it offers for the iPad. The case wraps the entire iPad in this enclosed fabric like material and hard rubber. The case itself does feel a little less stable than the Magic keyboard but for me this has not been a deal breaker. The typing experience is quite similar to that of the Magic Keyboard which offers the best in class in typing for the iPad. Where you find the difference is in the tracked. Now the Combo Touch trackpad is not bad, just its a little too sensitive to me which causes accidental touches that you don’t get on the Magic Keyboard.
Where the Combo touch really shines over the Magic Keyboard is in the viewing angles. I really feel that the Magic Keyboard is meant more for someone who is going to use it on a solid surface, where the Combo touch is more Versatel and you can detach it from the keyboard without sacrificing protection for your iPad. Either platforms you will not be disappointed, but for me I think I prefer the Combo touch.
Great points! Totally agree about the Combo Touch being more suited for hard surfaces - I’ve found it a little uncomfortable to use on my lap on the couch (e.g.), but definitely not a deal breaker for me.
@@AlexRodzianko He said the "Magic Keyboard" is meant more for solid surfaces, not the Combo Touch.
@@jimbrennan7415 Oh yes, thanks! I misread - my bad. I’ve found the Combo Touch harder to use on my lap and soft surfaces, personally. But also: the thinness of the keyboard does mean that it doesn’t give as much resistance when typing on a hard surfaces compared with the magic keyboard.
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
Hate the kick stand for lounging around and no coverage for the pencil…. Yeah, you can flip the keyboard to the back, but no lounging and typing…. Great video though!
Man I'm genuinely surprised to see your subs, this was the ONLY good video out of 20-30 videos I saw regarding the same. Subbed!
Thanks, demoN 👍
thank you very much! i wasted time watching several 16-minute ads for this product
No prob Jerry! Glad it was helpful! 👍
I have this case with my 2022 M2 12' iPad Pro. None the the issues you mentioned with the keyboard feel or responsiveness has bothered me at all as I am not a keyboard "power user." It works fine for my uses. However one thing you did not mention is that the opening in the case around the USB-C port does not allow for plugging in my Anker 541 USB-C hub. To use this, I have to completely remove the iPad from the case or, I guess find a USB-C to USB-C cable to connect it. Damned annoying. But I still find this to be an excellent alternative to Apple's absurdly priced Magic Keyboard, especially with the extra protection it offers as well as the row of utility keys it adds.
Great product and great honest review. You earn like and subscription. Thank you.
For the speakers it’s designed for the 3rd gen 11 inch iPad Pro which has different speaker holes. So don’t say that a company should have done something when you should have gotten a different iPad/case
This keyboard/case is listed and sold as compatible with 3rd ,2nd and 1st generation 11 inch ipad pros on both Logtech's and Apple's websites. Many people would buy on the strength of this listed information only to find the case doesn't quite line up on the 2nd generation.(no idea about the 1st generation)
Logitech even has a photograph of the corner of the case with the case holes lined up with the speaker holes with the caption 'ipad pro 11 inch (1st,2nd and 3rd gen)model.
I only know now because I found my way here to this excellent review which I'm grateful for for pointing up this potential flaw. Perhaps Logitech doesn't consider it enough of a problem to rejig the production line.
@@Chanson_Dada on apples website it says only for 3rd gen
@@JG-oc9gc Scroll down past the main header to 'Compatibility' where it clearly states it is compatible with-
iPad Models
iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation)
iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation)
iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation)
As clear as day.
@@Chanson_Dada in physical size not features
@@JG-oc9gc You do understand the definition of compatible,don't you?
The spec does not say
Compatible*
iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation)
iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation)*
iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation)*
*in physical size not features.
The only reason we're having this ridiculous exchange is because you read the main header on the Apple site and took a cheap shot at Alex the reviewer on the basis of that without reading the full spec and now simply can't admit you got your facts wrong.
Thanks for having such thorough review.
The case you have is made for the 2021 model and the speaker holes are designed for the new iPad, not the 2020 version. You should make that clear in your review..
Yep, appreciate this. Thanks, Colm. I’ve clarified in the comments that Logitech adversities the Combo Touch as compatible with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen 11 inch iPad Pro, but that the hole misalignment issue won’t apply with the 2021 models. I’ll take a look and see if I can add a slide into the video to clarify that, too - and will be able to do so in a couple of days!
it was recommended this video cuz i searched combo touch for ipad air yesterday lol. nice content ma guy
Thanks, BoyLabo! 😀
Thank you for the great review.
Thanks, Ken! Not at all! 😀
Just want to ask, what wallpaper is that? Its beautiful
Amazing video. I just subscribed. By the way where can I get that cool IPad Pro wallpaper?!
Love it - thanks, Aayan! Check out the image here: www.goodfon.com/wallpaper/firewatch-igra-minimalizm.html 😀
Loved this review.
I just get one with Traditional Chinese and speaker hole has improved as same size of iPad Pro.
Very good. Thanks for spotlighting all considerations.
Thanks Robert, not at all!
The speakers actually sound better with some holes covered.
According to many.
Not sure about microphone..?
Thanks
Interesting - I definitely noticed some sound muffle with the speaker covered (but I’m sure it also depends on what you’re playing).
Didn’t notice the mic quality being affected but the case at all!
@@AlexRodzianko maybe due to variation in manufacturing, or the added sound pressure made by covering up some whole, since the speakers do not actually completely fill the holes underneath🤔
If you are handy with tools, you can enlarge those slots for the speakers.
It doesn’t fit because you have the 2020 iPad not the 2021 m1 iPad
Hey! Thank you for your review. Was thinking about buying it, but now I won't, too many cons
Don't like the opening on the top charge to the apple pencil
Is it only me who is watching it after already buying it😂?
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What a great video!! I have this in my ipad pro 2021. Just a quiestion, 3:06 any of you also have that little curve that you can barely appreciate but is still there?
Great review. I already have the logitech combo touch. BTW the speaker hole is a non-issue with my 2022 13” ipad pro. I use 4 different languages set up on my system settings keyboard. I change through them with the world key. I agree about weight. It is heavy. Still getting used to that. Between going from the 11” with the smart keyboard folio to this is like going to a pilates course for you wrist and hands. The perfect case would have been the smart keyboard folio but with backlit keys. There were too many times with that keyboard where I could not read the keys in dark areas. No problem with this keyboard.
They talk about iPad battery draining faster, is that true? Respond urgently.
Is it me or others also have 8 holes instead of 13 for the speakers 03:46 (iPad pro m1 11)? Which will make it fit perfect to the case.
Yeah the speaker holes are a little bit different on the M1 iPads. The case is made for the M1 iPad pro so it will fit perfectly.
@@ichbinmenua Yup he bought the wrong case model.
How loud is the keyboard when typing quickly? I'm looking to use it in a lecture hall without annoying everyone else around me, thanks.
That’s odd that you’re having sound issues with your iPad. My 12.9” 2020 sounds the exact same. It must be due to the different size frames I guess
Yep, I guess so - and to be fair the difference isn’t much (but still a little noticeable). The 12.9 inch has much better speakers, too, so that could be why there isn’t any real difference with that size iPad.
the problem you have with the speakers is because this case it's for the 2021 edition of the iPad pro
Mine makes the same noise on the left. I think its normal, interior design.
Useful to know - thanks Simon!
IS there anyone else with this?
Would you consider reviewing the Zagg Pro Keys Keyboard (w/Trackpad)? 🥺
I’ll see what I can do!
@@AlexRodzianko Much appreciated! www.zagg.com/en_us/pro-keys-track-pad-ipad-11
Currently it's 30% off when you purchase two (2) or more products on ZAGG.com. Hopefully it's a good time to get it
having problems with The trackpad? With the combo installed on iPad just restart iPad
You can sell small holes into the case for the speakers
How do the predictive text works? Is there a keyboard shortcut to select it or it is touch only?
@Alex Rodzianko Good review. Subscribed. Is there an earlier version that has the cutaways to line up with the speaker holes of the 2018 11" IPad Pro so won't cause any blockage of sound? This is important to me as I find the volume/sound level of my 2018 iPad to be only adequate and have it on maximum settings. I don't know if the 2020 and 2021 M1 versions of the 11" iPad Pros have quite a low sound level volume too? Currently using a Logitech Slim Folio Pro (no trackpad) which is excellent.
Edit: I believe Logitech make 2 versions of this keyboard for the 11" iPad Pro. There is a version for the 1st and 2nd Generation 11" iPad Pro and the latest version which is for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Generation 11" iPad Pros. But the latest version, as in this review, does not match the speaker holes of the 1st and 2nd generation 11" iPad Pros, as you have shown. I don't know if the earlier version, which is cheaper at £149.99 at John Lewis, for the 1st and 2nd Generation 11" iPad Pros, have the speaker cutaways aligned.
There are also 2 versions for the 12.9" versions of the iPad Pro. First is stated to be for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations, and the other one is stated to be for the 5th generation. Couldn't see one on the John Lewis website for the 4th generation of the 12.9" iPad Pro. I don't know if the speaker cutaways line up on any of them.
573 subs wtf?
I thought I was watching a 100-200k subbed youtuber
Bruhhhh 😭😭😭
You’re illegally underrated
Have a great day
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Addon:574 after i have subbed
The only thing about this case is that it makes the iPad significantly heavier.
did you get used to it? i just bought mine and i was curious
I wish there was magnets on the Logitech keyboard between the keys not that strong but strong enough so that it will stay in put when in that orientation
Hi @Alex, great review. Thanks. I have the same clicking sound on the left side… I also have a clicking sound when opening and closing the keyboard. It seems to be in the attachment point between the keyboard and iPad. Do you experience that too? And you are right, you might expect more from such an expensive keyboard. Thanks, Niels
Hi Niels! Thanks for sharing. Interestingly, I haven’t noticed a clicking sound when opening/closing the case, but would be good to know if others have. Yep, the build quality and general feel could be better for the price, but it’s not a deal breaker, at least IMO! 😀
Hey Great vid. Just a heads up for you if you go to settings and search key repeat a setting under accessibility should pop up. If u go into the key repeat setting u should be able to lower the interval and delay speeds which should speed up deleting when holding down a key. I have mine set to 0.03s and 0.20s but I think you can go lower.
Just looked into these settings and lowered them as much as possible. You’re right: they make a big difference (esp. with word delete speed). Awesome tip: thanks, Alex! 😀
@@AlexRodzianko Marvelous Videos
@@alexisnoyes499 Appreciated!
Keyboard characters... Nice point . Any fix?
Not that I’ve found! It looks like others work around the issue by learning and using keyboard shortcuts.
I got the case for my iPad Air and my speaker girls are fine
Great video, hope you earn more subscribers
I subbed! Your videos are very professional and I was surprised you only just had over 100 subscribers. Quick question: would you recommend an iPad Pro or a MacBook for a “bachelor of secondary education” student at university?
Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words! If your choice is between the two, I would 100% recommend going with a MacBook. iPad OS is just too awkward (imo) for productivity and everyday tasks - unless the bulk of your work is illustration etc and you really need a stylus. (But even then windows 2-in-1s might be worth checking out!) I think the iPad Pro just hasn’t come far enough as a laptop replacement yet (and probably won’t for the foreseeable future). But if you can find a way, try them both out a little, and see how you find them!
I have been using Logitech Slim Folio keyboards/cases for years and I love them. Great customer support, and value vs price. You mentioned typing special characters or foreign language characters. I work in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese and I just have to select the language and use the the key combinations that have been around for ages ( i.e. apostrophe c for a ç) easy peasy. I had a Logitech Slim Folio go bad and they actually offered to send me one from the USA to Brazil but the importation duties would have been greater than the value of the keyboard. I bought one locally from Logitech and they credited my credit card with the full value that I had paid in the USA. Apple might not have done that, and would have said “just pop into an Apple store in the USA and we will give you a replacement (after I had spent thousands of dollars for an airline ticket from Brazil to the USA) not a real solution. Cheers mate.
Cheers, Greg - very helpful! I guess those keyboard shortcuts are a great way to access special characters (and anyone who works a lot in different languages will probably know the shortcuts anyway, so it shouldn’t be an issue). Also, glad Logitech were so helpful for you :)
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
@@talhatariq6420 are you going to paste that comment on every single review on youtube?
Realmente. Os atalhos dos caracteres especiais já são bem conhecidos pra quem está acostumado com o teclado americano. Não creio que seja um problema.
@@talhatariq6420 I have never had that problem and I am on my third Logitech keyboard.
is the keyboard still works when it unattached? (wireless)
Io ho il modello per iPad 12.9 pollici M1. Ma la barra spaziatrice si illumina o no ? Perché si illuminano tutti i tasti tranne la barra spaziatrice.
26.11.2022 to me its perfect
3:40, why my m1 ipad pro 11 inch has less speaker screws than yours? i think that the logitech case may fit my ipad but not yours? 8 holes total
Great video bud 👋
Thanks, Swapnil! 😀
@@AlexRodzianko subscribed from airpods video 👌 great videos man keep them coming good luck ✌🏼
@Swapnil Sathe Absolutely! Great to have you along for the ride 👍
Always update with the logi app:,,,, always,!
why did you buy it when you have lower iPad ver.?
Is it working with iPad 4th generation ?
Very elaborate review.. well done👍🏻👍🏻. Definitely subscribing.
Can you separate the keyboard, put the iPad in a stand at say eye-level, and still type without the keyboard being physically connected? Thanks for your answer.
Nope, the keyboard only works while it’s attached.
@@AlexRodzianko Hi Alex, thanks for the rapid response and the calm and informative video. I had it in my Amazon basket, but have now taken it out. This “use case” where you have the iPad and keyboard separate for ergonomic reasons is why Bluetooth, is arguably better than the proprietary connector. Everything else about this case is great, so it’s a shame. I swapped out the Logitech for an Ipevo Do-Cam, which is another productivity tool I need.
i wish they make a version without a built-in trackpad for those who don't really quite use it. All the same functionality, without the trackpad, like what they did with the slim combo for iPad 9.7.
Yeah that would be pretty sweet for people that just connect to a Bluetooth mouse if they really want external pointer control. Wonder if Logitech will make one... 🤔
@@AlexRodzianko I agree.
7:05 I have a workaround that and I’ve been using that for some time.
On a Windows computer I would hold down the shift key and press the up arrow. Wonder if that works on iPad.
Helpful
Glad to hear!
can u review the logitech folio touch ipad air 4 keyboard? plz
Love this case all the way for any new viewer disregard this Video, all what is saying it old and the case performs better than Apple Magic Keyboard
Where can I get this desktopbackground from?
Hello there, does the apple pencil loose easily when you are traveling?
Yes, the pencil will easily fall off… you can buy an adhesive pencil sleeve though. I have one stuck on the back of the keyboard for when the iPad goes in my backpack.
If you're still considering: yep, the pencil does come off occasionally for me when travelling and the case is in my bag. But I haven't noticed it being a huge issue, and a lot of the time it stays in place well enough. I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker.
What are the dimensions of this package ?
How does CapCut perform on this?
the speakers holes are made for ipad 2021 model
Yep 👍 check my pinned comment.
I've a 2020 ipad pro 11", currently using the logitech folio touch but I was drawn to this new model because of the detachable keyboard function.
how much of a deal breaker would you say the speaker holes are? I consume quite a fair bit of media on my ipad so I'm just wondering if and how much it affects the volume with the holes misaligned
The hole misalignment issue definitely isn’t a deal breaker for me, personally. (I use my iPad with headphones a lot, though, so speaker quality isn’t a huge concern of mine.) If you are listening to a lot of content/media out loud, then the difference in sound with the case on vs off still shouldn’t be much. (A lot of people are saying they can’t tell the difference, and I’ve only noticed a bit of muffle when playing some music, but not consistently so.) I don’t think you should have a problem! 😀
help me guys! how can i fix my track pad on logitech combo helpppp me pls
Where can I find your wallpaper?