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finally. i spent so long arguing on reddit because i was trying to prove to them that there had to be an okabe left behind after the time leap machine, and that okabe has no idea whether hed be the okabe who goes back or the okabe left behind so every time leap was at most a 50/50 chance of working from your own perspective. finally someone gets what i mean! making a person B doesnt mean person A ceases to exist.
Canonically speaking like the other guy said, in Steins Gate only one worldline remains active at a time, while the others exist as unrealized possibilities. Sort of like a wave function collapse in quantum mechanics. You can think of a worldline shift through d-mail or a time leap as the universe returning to an unobserved state, thus entering into a wave function where all worldlines exist, and then being observed by the time traveller, causing the wave function to collapse, and a new single worldline being activiated.
It's explained (at least in the VN) that there is only one active worldline at a time and that the others are basically hypothetical. When you timeleap the version of you that sends the memories back no longer exists. We see this happen in the Luka ending where she timeleaps and dissapears from the lab because of the worldline shift
Yeah that still doesn’t explain why the girl from the past which this is cannon said there all different word lines that coexist simultaneously so his consciousness that stayed behind from the future wouldn’t be erased it would simply turn into another word line where that current consciousness didn’t go back in time but it would share its beta or alpha timeline and this theory makes sense in real life circles around time travel it’s kinda like the many worlds theory many scientists believe in to say that the timeline would be erased is dumb and create a plot hole that the show already explained and ov is not cannon and doesn’t need to be watched so don’t use it to discount anything that happens in og release of the episodes because it causes confusion
@@chaseyoung9628 Those timelines still "exist", as in they are still hypothetically possible, they just aren't reality. If Okabe were to return to a timeline he had left there would have to be continuity in that timeline so all of those hypothetical events would become real again.
@@Wolfborgg This anime is so amazing, when I was watching it for the first time I was shocked how they combined John Titor lore, CERN and physics very well in the series!
I didn't even watch Steins:Gates but now I think I really have to do it! Especially bc I write a story that includes time-travelling so I really need to know how great stories handled these topics respectfully and so close to reality ❤ when you said they actually hacked that machine, created a black hole and compressed these memories with it... damn, I need to watch this! 🤩
Oh my god... FIRE, this video lived up to-no surpassed every and all expectations I could have had. Also the editing was kinda crispy. Also also didn't know man's was a guy of mozzarella sticks, I personally love them to death, but those around me seem to think I am a bit mistaken in that and say I am wrong. Mozzarella sticks are heavily slept on.
Try it in a virtual world… when you think about sword art it’s somewhat accurate how it scans your brain to read your memories and record them. So when you’re in the game and it’s super fast computer is reading/rewriting your brain cause it shuts down whatever science behind that is in itself either conscience or perception. But it practically makes a second you to live in that world and the author was able to code out a button to pretty much sleep? 🤔/ log out. Or to pretty much shut that consciousness down 😬 mayn. It’s 3:30 am I got an exam for chemistry in 7 hours and here we are. But it’s such an amazing thing really
Interesting video! I never thought of the possibility of the data being compressed by the black hole while still being electromagnetic waves... I'm not sure it might be possible to be honest. My theory was to use a concept suggested to solve the information paradox a black hole creates. The paradox occures because due to quantum mechanics no information can be destroyed, but a black hole has only a few properties: mass, charge and spin. So just by observing the black hole you cannot tell anymore, if it sucked up a chair, a table, a planet or even a whole star, which leads to the loss of this information. One possible solution of this paradox is the following: The information isn't lost, it is somehow encoded on its event horizon and can theoretically be regained by its Hawking radiation, which emits the data back to the universe. The storage capacity of such a black hole would be MASSIVE. It can be described by the Bekenstein bound, which tells how many bits of information can be in a sphere with a given radius and energy (or mass). So given the human brain weighs approximately 1.5 kg and the 3.24 TB of data given in the series, the radius of such a sphere would be at least 6.7057e-31 meters. A Schwarzschild black hole of that mass weighs approximately 0.0004515 kg. The Hawking evaporation time of such a black hole would be 7.74e-27 seconds. Given you need some time to decode the information back from the Hawking radiation, it might be conceivable to do that in 23 milliseconds with some ultra fast futuristic algorithm. So instead sending the data as electromagnatic waves close by a black hole, you can maybe send the entire black hole in the past and decode its Hawking radiation. Assuming the theory is true and the information is indeed encoded on the event horizon :)
This is a really cool idea but the major problem I see with it is that the time leap machine can send memories to before its creation. I guess you might say that Daru set up the decoding before the rest of the machine was finished but that's pure speculation
One thing to note regarding your comment at 24:25 is that in the VNs while Okabe is in his nightmarish death-filled groundhog day hell is that Mayuri will have a heart attack even if he prevents all the other ways that she dies, possibly related to some underlying condition - I'll note that in the (incredibly fucked up) Gamma attractor field, Mayuri is actively dying from cancer in 2010, though that's not necessarily relevant to the main game or the Alpha field as a whole.
@@Maru_812 Instead of drinking Dk Pepper (the drink of true intellectuals) he drinks Mountain Dew in the Gamma attractor. Oh yeah, he's also a Rounder agent (designated M3), and by 2036 he'll ascend to being Hououin Kyouma, Leader of the Rounders, Member of the Committee of 300 and the cruel and merciless ruler of Japan.
if using black hole for time space travel, it should be possible to send/copy paste memories to past if the method/energy form to travel was higher dimension/level than what black hole would destroy/distort, for example if "life is a game" (electromagnetic?) then does electromagnetic time space travel work more easy with less likely data destruction/distortion? data implies electricity/electromagnetic at least in gaming/programming code words
thoughts on miuri's death being a convergence point: if reality is determined by the beholder and other cats, maybe true time is realer depending on how many ppl behold, everyone is effected by ww3 and the time machine, perhaps 'the organization' conspired to kill miuri before the arklight slap, thus 0 begins but never ends. tried to keep it short, prob dosent make sence, with out mi, the future gadget would not take part in the war.
I think the concept of "permanent death" makes sense when this death is a result of how the victim usually acts in their life. If the victim is constantly careless, makes dangerous decisions etc., I think there's much higher probability that such person will die in a dramatic event sooner or later. I don't think it's dramatic just for the sake of being dramatic, if this is literally a result of the dying person's choices. It's based on the theory of probability. The way to make it not work and to make the probability of someone's tragic death in near future not too high is to convince the victim to change their ways of acting, I think. But this may be a problem if the victim still doesn't want to change their ways, lol. I don't know tho how exactly it was like in the girl's case (in the anime). If the death always looks almost the same, caused by similar things and situations (a car crash), then yeah, I understand that it may seem a bit too exaggerated. Imo if she would keep dying but in different events, caused by her much bigger than in an average person carelessness, bravery, dangerous "friends" etc then it would be more believable.
Man sounds like time travel hardwire requires a headset... VR, neuralink, data compression. while we may not have the physics and mathematics. It sounds like we have the components for a time travel machine. A D-wave oculus😂 / EKG headset.
All you need now is either A tachyon antitelephone? Miniature black hole generation or alcubierre drives and CTCs and make you can actually make it happen.
If you liked this, make sure to subscribe for more episodes! I'll likely be focusing future Anime Science vids to other sci-fi anime and topics for awhile. And hopefully tha means I'll make Anime Science stuff more than once a year. If you have any ideas or topics you'd want to see videos of, let me know. Thank you so much for watching!!
More steins videos and not one in a year rather atleast once a month
finally. i spent so long arguing on reddit because i was trying to prove to them that there had to be an okabe left behind after the time leap machine, and that okabe has no idea whether hed be the okabe who goes back or the okabe left behind so every time leap was at most a 50/50 chance of working from your own perspective.
finally someone gets what i mean! making a person B doesnt mean person A ceases to exist.
"that there had to be an okabe left behind after the time leap machine"
There's not since there's only one active worldline at a time.
Canonically speaking like the other guy said, in Steins Gate only one worldline remains active at a time, while the others exist as unrealized possibilities. Sort of like a wave function collapse in quantum mechanics. You can think of a worldline shift through d-mail or a time leap as the universe returning to an unobserved state, thus entering into a wave function where all worldlines exist, and then being observed by the time traveller, causing the wave function to collapse, and a new single worldline being activiated.
It's explained (at least in the VN) that there is only one active worldline at a time and that the others are basically hypothetical. When you timeleap the version of you that sends the memories back no longer exists. We see this happen in the Luka ending where she timeleaps and dissapears from the lab because of the worldline shift
Yeah that still doesn’t explain why the girl from the past which this is cannon said there all different word lines that coexist simultaneously so his consciousness that stayed behind from the future wouldn’t be erased it would simply turn into another word line where that current consciousness didn’t go back in time but it would share its beta or alpha timeline and this theory makes sense in real life circles around time travel it’s kinda like the many worlds theory many scientists believe in to say that the timeline would be erased is dumb and create a plot hole that the show already explained and ov is not cannon and doesn’t need to be watched so don’t use it to discount anything that happens in og release of the episodes because it causes confusion
@@chaseyoung9628 Those timelines still "exist", as in they are still hypothetically possible, they just aren't reality. If Okabe were to return to a timeline he had left there would have to be continuity in that timeline so all of those hypothetical events would become real again.
I can't explain how much i love this video essay
Great video🔝 I really like the concept of time travel and steins;gate is my favourite anime👍
What a great choice of the steins;gate to end a day! Thanks for your amazing work
Steins;Gate all day every day hell yeee
@@Wolfborgg This anime is so amazing, when I was watching it for the first time I was shocked how they combined John Titor lore, CERN and physics very well in the series!
I didn't even watch Steins:Gates but now I think I really have to do it! Especially bc I write a story that includes time-travelling so I really need to know how great stories handled these topics respectfully and so close to reality ❤ when you said they actually hacked that machine, created a black hole and compressed these memories with it... damn, I need to watch this! 🤩
yes watch one of the most epic shows of all time fr fr
please watch it. it will change your life
God I love science amazing video man.
Can't wait till the next videos of this series, I just simply can't have enough of Steins Gate. Truely best show I've ever seen.
Oh my god... FIRE, this video lived up to-no surpassed every and all expectations I could have had. Also the editing was kinda crispy. Also also didn't know man's was a guy of mozzarella sticks, I personally love them to death, but those around me seem to think I am a bit mistaken in that and say I am wrong. Mozzarella sticks are heavily slept on.
aw, you think my editing is crispy- thank you! :>
Try it in a virtual world… when you think about sword art it’s somewhat accurate how it scans your brain to read your memories and record them. So when you’re in the game and it’s super fast computer is reading/rewriting your brain cause it shuts down whatever science behind that is in itself either conscience or perception. But it practically makes a second you to live in that world and the author was able to code out a button to pretty much sleep? 🤔/ log out. Or to pretty much shut that consciousness down 😬 mayn. It’s 3:30 am I got an exam for chemistry in 7 hours and here we are. But it’s such an amazing thing really
Interesting video!
I never thought of the possibility of the data being compressed by the black hole while still being electromagnetic waves... I'm not sure it might be possible to be honest. My theory was to use a concept suggested to solve the information paradox a black hole creates.
The paradox occures because due to quantum mechanics no information can be destroyed, but a black hole has only a few properties: mass, charge and spin. So just by observing the black hole you cannot tell anymore, if it sucked up a chair, a table, a planet or even a whole star, which leads to the loss of this information.
One possible solution of this paradox is the following: The information isn't lost, it is somehow encoded on its event horizon and can theoretically be regained by its Hawking radiation, which emits the data back to the universe.
The storage capacity of such a black hole would be MASSIVE. It can be described by the Bekenstein bound, which tells how many bits of information can be in a sphere with a given radius and energy (or mass). So given the human brain weighs approximately 1.5 kg and the 3.24 TB of data given in the series, the radius of such a sphere would be at least 6.7057e-31 meters. A Schwarzschild black hole of that mass weighs approximately 0.0004515 kg. The Hawking evaporation time of such a black hole would be 7.74e-27 seconds. Given you need some time to decode the information back from the Hawking radiation, it might be
conceivable to do that in 23 milliseconds with some ultra fast futuristic algorithm.
So instead sending the data as electromagnatic waves close by a black hole, you can maybe send the entire black hole in the past and decode its Hawking radiation.
Assuming the theory is true and the information is indeed encoded on the event horizon :)
This is a really cool idea but the major problem I see with it is that the time leap machine can send memories to before its creation. I guess you might say that Daru set up the decoding before the rest of the machine was finished but that's pure speculation
Amazing video! It's so amazing that such hard theory could be explained so easily.
I'm glad you mentioned Soma, one of the best stories for me ❤
Woah, good vídeo, it's incredible the amount of rescearch you did for this video. It deserves more views!!
Can you do a video explaining the Amadeus System and “mind control through music” used in Steins; Gate 0?
Hell yeah, those are definitely topics I'm planning to cover in the future.
@@Wolfborgg still waiting :(
@Wolfborgg still waiting
One thing to note regarding your comment at 24:25 is that in the VNs while Okabe is in his nightmarish death-filled groundhog day hell is that Mayuri will have a heart attack even if he prevents all the other ways that she dies, possibly related to some underlying condition - I'll note that in the (incredibly fucked up) Gamma attractor field, Mayuri is actively dying from cancer in 2010, though that's not necessarily relevant to the main game or the Alpha field as a whole.
Wait what
@@Maru_812 Instead of drinking Dk Pepper (the drink of true intellectuals) he drinks Mountain Dew in the Gamma attractor.
Oh yeah, he's also a Rounder agent (designated M3), and by 2036 he'll ascend to being Hououin Kyouma, Leader of the Rounders, Member of the Committee of 300 and the cruel and merciless ruler of Japan.
if using black hole for time space travel, it should be possible to send/copy paste memories to past if the method/energy form to travel was higher dimension/level than what black hole would destroy/distort,
for example if "life is a game" (electromagnetic?) then does electromagnetic time space travel work more easy with less likely data destruction/distortion?
data implies electricity/electromagnetic at least in gaming/programming code words
I hope you will make a video about Attractor Fields
20:56
CIA says hello
Corrupted data would explain what was really happening during the events of the movie
Awesomeness
Remember when you get famous B)
thoughts on miuri's death being a convergence point: if reality is determined by the beholder and other cats, maybe true time is realer depending on how many ppl behold, everyone is effected by ww3 and the time machine, perhaps 'the organization' conspired to kill miuri before the arklight slap, thus 0 begins but never ends. tried to keep it short, prob dosent make sence, with out mi, the future gadget would not take part in the war.
how is this 253 views? bro? Okay men. Good stuff. Be waiting for ur next video and debate :devil face:
Lmao I was just talking about the anime with a friend
Good, everyone should be talking about Steins;Gate
I think the concept of "permanent death" makes sense when this death is a result of how the victim usually acts in their life. If the victim is constantly careless, makes dangerous decisions etc., I think there's much higher probability that such person will die in a dramatic event sooner or later. I don't think it's dramatic just for the sake of being dramatic, if this is literally a result of the dying person's choices. It's based on the theory of probability. The way to make it not work and to make the probability of someone's tragic death in near future not too high is to convince the victim to change their ways of acting, I think. But this may be a problem if the victim still doesn't want to change their ways, lol.
I don't know tho how exactly it was like in the girl's case (in the anime). If the death always looks almost the same, caused by similar things and situations (a car crash), then yeah, I understand that it may seem a bit too exaggerated. Imo if she would keep dying but in different events, caused by her much bigger than in an average person carelessness, bravery, dangerous "friends" etc then it would be more believable.
Love the vid! Great work.
It's a shame it's so underrated :/
Man sounds like time travel hardwire requires a headset...
VR, neuralink, data compression.
while we may not have the physics and mathematics. It sounds like we have the components for a time travel machine.
A D-wave oculus😂 / EKG headset.
All you need now is either
A tachyon antitelephone?
Miniature black hole generation or alcubierre drives and CTCs and make you can actually make it happen.
Subbed
So the Time Leap Machine is a combination of the Phone Wave and the Amadeus Program, Right?
Only 1,2k views? YT must be broken 😆
el psy congroo