Jehovah’s Witnesses and The harmful practice of Disfellowshipping: My personal experience
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Silence serves no one. People and systems count on our silence to keep us right where we are.
Also it was Warwick not Wallkill.
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My fleshly sister was disfellowshiped when she got pregnant with her beautiful son and the questions the elders in the meeting they had with her traumatized her for years. If she didnt have the support of her family perhaps she would have unlived herself. She said it was so dehumanizing and humiliating the things they wanted to know, those darn p@rv@rts. They do this to people not knowing what else the person may be going through. Disfellowshiping is definitely harmful its like when they put prisoners in solitary confinement because they know thats severe psychological trauma to be isolated from people. They very much know how cruel the practice is but they use it as a control mechanism. And lastly ive personally been affected by it as i was so in love with a guy who was disfellowshiped and because he was outside we couldn't be together. A relationship that could have benefited both of us couldn't happen because of the w!cked rules of those men in New York. Those Mother p h u c kers have ruined so many lives.
their behaviour honours the dark angel they are the witnesses of
@rhelsyc Yes they are.
I don’t understand what reason they have to ask questions as to what went on in private. Seriously what is the reason for that what does it solve?. I have never heard of an interrogation done to adult people who consented to a relationship. And to request explicit details 🤨 sounds perverted to me very perverted.
For sure not of God.
As the Bible says we will all have to answer for what we have done wrong that includes those elder men inflicting pain and embarrassment and shame and belittling to others.
@irismoody7244 Yes they are a bunch of perverts who get excitement from these questions. And worst part is they'll ask consenting adults these questions but in a case of CSA the child must provide an eyewitness to their assa¥lt
A few months ago, it hit me that disfellowshipping is psychological torture. It dawned on me that "Dont talk to me until you come back to MY religion" is emotional manipulation. I have a public talk in 2 weeks and i dont know what I'm gonna do cos i woke up a few days ago and i dont know if i can teach people this stuff anymore.
A lifetimes of cracks has finally brought the castle down. So many things i disagreed with, so many inerpretations i felt were wrong, i thought i was crazy, and we were told to have faith, it all just came crumbling down. Anyway, thanks for your videos, much love from a 35 year old MS in Jhb who's hoping he doesnt out himself during his next talk
Sometimes I wonder if Watchtower will ever abandon disfellowshipping since it’s the one thing many people who want to leave fear… specially those with believing families.
I would love to hear your story. What the final straw was for you. I hope you find the courage to make a Decision that is right for you. I know it won’t be easy. But we truly only have this one life and the best thing is for to make it meaningful in a way that will leave you fulfilled.
It's torture if you are a weak spineless person afraid of everything. What a bunch of weenies, I was disfellowshipped for 7 years and I can't sympathize with the drama. "Oh, it's so mean, it's torture for these poor little babies."
Grow up, I had no issues with being disfellowshipped, I was guilty, I deserved it and so what if no one spoke to me? That was part of the discipline, it was temporary and not difficult. If you have a problem with it you are weak.
All the best with your public talk... Put effort into it. It might be your last talk. Ex South African JW
Researcher rose is a good channel for people who are awake but stuck inside the cult. She is pimo herself.
I hope that you find a safe way to escape. It will be painful when you do, but there is a whole community of exjw who are ready, willing, and able to help.
Exjw help is a good website for people wanting to move on from jw too.
@@djparsons7363It's a good thing that you don't mind being disfellowshipped because that will happen to you again if you are caught watching, and engaging with, apostate material.
Why watch this stuff if you are a happy jw living your best life?
This was so touching. As a so-called born-in, who left of my own volition many years ago, I never knew how harmful the practice is until listening to such experiences in 2020. No objective listener can deny the evil in such a social monstrosity. It was not until 2016 (or thereabout) that my many siblings began shunning me. I thought to myself, how foolish and deceived can grown, experienced adults become. How glad I was to have used my own critical thinking skills while still in my early 20s, to have left for pursuit of higher education.
Your 2016 timing sounds like it may coincide with a "shunning" talk and film at a 2016 assembly. At the end of the film, the assembly burst out clapping in agreement. It was disgusting. I saw it online.
Thank you for adding your voice to the exjw community. When i heard you say that this channel is your platform, that resonated with me because as women in the Borg we are not allowed to have a voice.
Like someone commented already, if a current JW responded to you video shows they're already going against "Jehovahs organization" by responding. But it shows me they obviously have doubts as well.
Keep doing these videos, i can relate to almost everything you said.
You are a true beacon, keep shining
They disfellowshipped me from an accusation. No actual proof but I didn't have a repentant attitude. They interrogated me for 3 hours, trying to convince me I had done what was accused. I was already pretty disillusioned with the JW stuff, so when I went in the hall to wait for the decision, I was done. Stepped back in, told them I was leaving, they said they would announce the next day. Haven't looked back in 25 years
I can tell you. They forced me to join a malicious accusation but I refused. They removed me from being an elder as a result. Please do your best to live happily and meaningfully. I am certain you can. ❤️
and they do not disfellowship those who rape and abuse of children in their organization
Me too
Thank you so much for having the courage to speak about it
You have a right to say what ever you want . Speak your peace it will set you free . Don’t worry about what they speak my dear. Speak
The wiered thing is that those elders who are judging and disfellowsipping, they are very narcissistic, do not care and they feel proud for what they do. No true love and understanding.
Yes Daniel! The superficial power these men possess is ridiculous. Falsehood. Ruining lives since the beginning. My parents have been JW’s since 1960. Not me nor my siblings are JW’s. Only 1 cousin. I should start a podcast on the narcissistic abuse I witnessed and how I fought back the little abuse that was thrown on me. 🤷🏻♀️
Just subscribed thank you so much for your hard work your doing to help people wake up and get out from this tereble distractive Cult wt cult
Don’t worry about the negativity. These witnesses shouldn’t even be watching your channel if they obeyed their rules. You’re doing well
Great video so true.
Hi! This is only the second video of yours I am seeing. First off you are stunningly beautiful, I had to stop working so I could sit locked on the screen. I heard everything you said, please do not take this wrong but if you are not already in opinion you need to be in a support group. I don't know your experience but you need to accept the JWs do not have the truth. I am going to watch everything you post just to watch you and learn from your life's experiences.
As a fully woke, someday I want to be in that meeting day my name announced as DF or DA so that after announcement I can hold a mike and say out loud why I’m leaving😅I’m not the one to be shamed, the ones who had listened that announcement should be surprised listening to specific reasons why I’m leaving! No. 1 reason will be hidden CSA!
Thank you for an insightful commentary…your experience is a valid one…I grew up in it and I understand….My husband and I left twenty five years ago…It was the best decision we made…I think we saw most of the circumstances that there was…and…the whole organization showed its self as a big…SCAM AND CULT….I saw so many broken hearts from this ..CULT SCAM…life will be good for you…a future of freedom and peace…BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY….
We while indoctrinated should’ve realized as a parent was telling our children not to do bullying at schools but in this org we as a parent were telling our children to BULLY(SHUN) any who are DF😮
It’s the most inhumane thing I’ve ever experienced. And I feel bad for all the times I too was part of the people who were shunning💔 I still feel so bad. And like I said if I was never disfellowshipped I would have never known
Thank you so much for your video. It is very helpful. Greetings from Germany.
Keep up the good work. Thank you
Thank you for your experience. I have been out since 2019, and it is only in the past year that I have realized how wrong the organization is. May you have a blessed New Year.
I wish the best for you and hope you make true friends in or out of the witness religion. I was disfellowshipped 25 years ago, tried several times to get reinstated but found them to be disinterested in it and had no value of me whatsoever. I could never be happy again with them, though it would help to NOT be disfellowshipped in case there is a true friend among them . I hope you will take safeguards to keep your position hidden and to give support to others who need it from a person of your experience. Jesus favors the lowly one, the depressed soul, the down trodden, and like Jehovah he despises the fat one and the haughty. Jesus shall return and perhaps then you will receive such good news as to make your heart leap for joy. God Bless.
Now Jehovah's Witness men can wear beards! This is absolute madness
the pope is approving gay marriage meanwhile the gb is approving beards on men🤦🏾♂️
I don't trust any religion anymore
What a joke
Good for you for shutting down the negative comments! Probably a "Holy" Jehovah's Witnesse expressing their "righteous indignation " mean while, they would get reprimanded if other JW'S knew that they watch your videos! Ridiculously sad. I'm sorry you've gone thru so much! Glad you're here in our community! Keep your head high! I'm rooting for you!
I never felt so good after leaving the cult beginning of the year, of course I'm South African 🇿🇦 in Pretoria.
That trying to convince you that what you experienced didn’t happen is called gaslighting. It’s an extreme form of emotional abuse!
Great Story, it will help a lot of JW youth to see possibilities for their future. Please ignore the naysayers, do not even entertain them with a response or comment because that is what they want, to get under your skin. When you ignore them, they will fade away & never bother you again.
Hi thanks for sharing. We are sorry.lots of love from England
🎉well said...great speech...to the point...❤
Great video
Ironic as it may be the GB men past and present are the most sinful of people within the entire organization, not only are they false prophet apostates but they have blood guilt on their hands for instigating the deaths of thousands. The bible gives instructions in how to identify false prophets and how to treat them and certainly isn't about sharing in their false apostate ways. The bible says to not listen to them. 😳
❤awesome post, much love,Sydney Australia be your best friend 🥰
Sending all my love to you❤️ Thank you for watching my video. I appreciate it😊
God bless 😊
South African women are pretty.
I don't know if you know this but In Zulu your name "Sizakele" means "helped" it may be he/her
All my love back at you too 🫠😊
I just discovered your channel now. You're clearly from SA although you have a Lesotho surname. Anyway nice video.
My goodness this sounds like judgement day in a cult😩
The Watchtower claims that JWs are the happiest people in the world. If this organization is so beautiful, loving and wonderful, then why are so many people leaving it? In just 4 years (2019/2022) more than 800,000 JWs have already left the Watchtower cult.
very good
Sounds like religious gestapo.
siza, you are not the guilty one. they call themselves the witnesses of the angel of darkness and think they are the creator of the universe when they unlawfully judge ppl
What did you do to get disfellowshipping?
Acts 2:38 is still God’s plan of salvation. God is not the author of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33. God has one way for all people. Jesus was not a none of these churches down here, but holy. Ephesians 1:4. We should be holy too. The real Jehovah witness is in Acts 1:8. God bless you!
Are you open to dating someone who can't date any other religion but someone with views other than that of the JWs? I'm very much open to that. Let me know and we can connect.
❤
You’re beautiful
Jehovah's Witnesses teach there is no hell but the following proves differently.
Jesus Himself Speaks About Hell And How Not To Go There:
In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus describes a rich man that lived lavishly and a poor beggar man named Lazarus. It came to pass that Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man died, was buried, then went to hell. 23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in TORMENT, saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus received evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you can not, neither can they pass to us, and would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray you therefore father, that you would send him to my father’s house. 28 For I have 5 brothers that he may testify unto them, lest also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
LOCATION OF HELL: Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, ”For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH.” Paul said in Ephesians 4:9, ”Now that he ascended, was it but that he also DESCENDED into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE: Jesus said in Luke 16:24,”….Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.”
Jesus said in Matthew 13:42,”And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE, there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.” Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,”Then shall he also say to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Jesus said in Revelation 20:15,”And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT: Jesus said in Luke 16:23,”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENT….” 24 …..for I am TORMENTED in this flame.” Jesus said in Revelation 14:11,”And the smoke of their TORMENT ascended up FOR EVER AND EVER, and they have no rest day or night….” Jesus said in Mark 9:45-46,”And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. 46 Where their WORM DIES NOT, and the fire is not quenched.” Note that it doesn’t say “THE Worm”, it says “THEIR WORM” dies not. Jesus said in Revelation 21:8,”But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death.” Note that Brimstone is Sulfur and burns with a very strong odor of rotten eggs.
The scriptures above prove when a person goes to hell they will constantly see hell, constantly smell hell, constantly feel the heat of hell, will constantly breath hell, will constantly hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth of others in hell, will constantly be aware of their own worms, they will have no rest day or night, there is no way out and it will continue for ever and ever, they can’t die because they are already dead.
The following is how to not go there and it is a SIMPLE AND EASY thing to do:
All of the book of Acts is what Jesus disciples said what we must to be SAVED - meaning not go to hell, which is repentance, water baptism in Jesus NAME, (Not the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) and being baptized with the Holy Ghost. Jesus said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED, but he that believes not shall be damned."
At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not name's) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time they invoked Jesus NAME at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16.
Jesus said in John 3:3-7,"Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man BE BORN AGAIN, he can not see the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water which is for the REMISSION OF SINS - meaning the INITIAL remission of sins and not the confessing of sins later addressed in 1 John 1:9. Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost. What being baptized with the Holy Ghost means is addressed in Acts 2:3-4, (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5 - which is when the Spirit of Christ initially dwells in a person. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:1-5 is a good example.
Paul said in Romans 8:9-11,”But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS."
Numbers 23:19, ”God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent, has he said and shall he not do it? And shall he not make it good?”
Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not...”
Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” That means there is no reason to think that Jesus will make an exception and save someone that has not been baptized in water in Jesus NAME, and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Some say the thief on the cross next to Jesus was not baptized yet Jesus told him he would be in paradise with him that day. Jesus had not given the COMMANDMENT to be baptized in HIS NAME until after he had risen from the dead and before he ascended into heaven. The thief on the cross could not have been baptized because he did not know about it.
if you do what Jesus said above in Mark 16:16, Matthew 28:19, and John 3:3-7, you will be making SURE your name is Written In Lamb's Book Of Life.
If you are convinced you need to get baptized in water in Jesus Name do a search and type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that.
Jesus said John 10:27, ”My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
I'm POMO and I think you're kind of cute.
Jehovah is not God's name. The following proves what His name really is.
The Following Is Scriptural Proof Who Jesus Really Is And That He Is Much More Than Just The Son Of God.
Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught by Jesus himself which means whatever Paul said was what Jesus told him to say. Paul said in 1 Timothy 3:16,"AND WITHOUT CONTROVERSY GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS, GOD was manifest in the FLESH (Jesus), justified in the SPIRIT, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up into glory."
Paul said in 2 Corinthians 3:17,"Now the LORD IS THAT SPIRIT, and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty." Jesus is speaking in Revelation 2:7,"He that has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says to the churches...." And Paul said in Ephesians 4:4, "For there is one body, ONE SPIRIT....verse 5 ONE LORD, ONE Faith and ONE BAPTISM."
Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10,"Beware lest any man fool you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 FOR IN HIM DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY." Jesus is not just part of the Godhead - Jesus IS the Godhead.
Paul said in Hebrews 1:8,"But unto the SON he said, Thy throne O GOD is forever and ever...." Jesus said in Revelation 21:6-7,"And he said unto me (John) it is done, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I (Jesus) will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of life freely. 7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his GOD, and he shall be my SON."
Paul said in Titus 2:13, "Looking for that blessed hope, and glorious appearance of the great GOD and our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST."
1 John 5:20,"And we know that the SON of God is come, and has given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his SON Jesus Christ, THIS IS THE TRUE GOD, AND ETERNAL LIFE."
Isaiah 9:6,"For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son (Jesus) is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, ..." Jesus said in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is, which was, and is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." Jesus said in Revelation 2:7, "He that has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says unto the Churches....."
Jesus said in Mark 16:16, "He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be damned." Jesus addressed what damned means in Luke 16:19-31, Matthew 13:42, Matthew 25:41, Mark 9:45-46, Revelation 20:15, and Revelation 21:8.
Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, "Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not names) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water they invoked Jesus name at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. Peter said in Acts 4:12, "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men whereby we must be SAVED."
Some say the thief on the cross next to Jesus was not Baptized yet Jesus told him he would be with him that day in Paradise. Jesus had not yet given the COMMANDMENT to be Baptized in His Name until after he rose from the dead and just before he ascended into heaven. The thief or anyone else could not have been Baptized in His Name because they did not know about it. There is not one scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:1-5 is a good example.
If you are convinced you need to get Baptized in water in Jesus name and get Baptized with the Holy Ghost - which is addressed in Acts 2:4 (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5. Do a search, type in "United Pentecostal Church International", slightly scroll down to just below the red box, and type in your zip code. Then a screen will show a Church nearest you that will do that.
If you do the above you will be making SURE your name is written in the Lamb's Book Of Life.
Jesus said in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."
You have a free will and now you are making money out of your experiences by creating content for you tube.
shame can hardly hear you
Didn't you read 1 Corinthians 5 v 11 and 13 before you became a Jehovah witness? Do you know that when you make a vow to jehovah BETTER KEEP IT? Ecclestiastes 5 v 4 , Deuteronomy 23v 21. When you make a vow to jehovah, it is not like a New year's resolutions that people make knowwing that they are not going to keep it.
Vow to Jehovah, not an organization and a vow Jesus didn’t even make SMH
You shouldn't be here if you follow what you are being told in there.Do you even allow young adults to grow before forcing them into this cult? Don't ever dere come here again. continue to live your life in your small mental prison where worshipping human contextual teaching is the goal .
The world is known to entertain sin and nobody cares .The world will love you if you are part of it.From what ,you know about disfelloshiping before you become a JW.You probably have had to deal with a disfelloshiped person.First quote the bible verses that talk about disfelloshiping to your audience and then discuss from that base.You are creating content out of sympathy not facts.Disfelloshiping is righteous displine intended to make you feel the way you felt and change your. Ways
@@moldmanchemistry4301 Are JWs allowed these days to respond/comment on apostate materials?
can we email you