I swapped to industry initially because I figured by the time the PU actually went live I would be deep enough in my retirement where my reflexes wouldnt be able to keep up. Then I see videos like that make me reconsider. Its slowed down to the point where you can practically make a cup of coffee in the time it takes to close the distance to the target. It may be slow enough to play when I get to be an old man, but where is the fun in it.
1 step forward, 2 steps back development, the longer they can stay in development, the more money they make, everyone knows, when a game actually releases, it slowly bleeds players and funding, like radar targeting on your hud was a thing, got taken out, now its back, but oh wait now all the quantum drives are all nearly identical, its like they go through and touch all the numbers of the drives and made them temporary fixes on purpose for the sake of having more work later on
"if you love your player base, bring this gameplay loop back in it's entirety..." - Chris Roberts is making the game he wants, not the game we want. Some of the decisions they make boggle the mind, even after they get constructive feedback from the community. "Star Citizen is a mile wide and an inch deep" - I didn't realize how true that was until I stopped playing SC after Mistake Modes and started playing EVE Online. Not only did I learn how much SC has "borrowed" from EVE online but, also how much SC is trying to be EVE in first person. EVE is the opposite of SC ... a mile wide but, with great depth and cohesion. Keep the based content coming Marcus!
@@heru_ur6017 It does feel more and more like that. Which, sometimes, makes me worry about the long term future of Star Citizen especially given Chris's history of abandoned projects and failed companies. But, if it's still pulling in the money (for other projects) despite the poor record of delivering on content, it will be around for as long as it's useful in that respect. There are other chapters of SQ42 to be developed after the first is released so, draw you own conclusions - will SC always be second to SQ42, as a priority for CIG?
This is why I thought this event was 4.0 only, why bother releasing yet another event the servers cant handle? Im not playing this game again until 4.0, it just crushes under its own weight.
I agree on the low effort thing. Did you notice that the new "free" paints (as part of BIS) were all significantly low effort. While the paid skins are better. And it's been a common trend. The changes to the flight model, dumbing down FPS combat ... all are taking SC to an even shallower state.
I can't believe the cutty even though has more weight to it still out maneuvers a f8c.....that thing is suppose to keep up with the vanduul...oh and I totally agree with you
I didn't realize these were out of the game since I don't do space combat anymore (MM is legitimately awful, anyone who stans for it is a chump and a sucker). I know it seems low-effort but I'm more than confident that something this simple is still very, very hard for them to implement. The first mistake in this project was choosing the Cryengine. They may have taken it a long way but its been fighting them this entire time.
Those "loops" are templates for other similar missions. I dont see the problem here. Theres a chance that you'll find players or NPC's being attacked and asking for help.
CIG spent the last year making space combat worse. I want the 3.21 flight model back and space combat speeds that exceed a 2024 single engine propeller plane at sea level.
It all seems like low effort these days. YOu get your usual shills that make their money from doing SC videos making the updates look like theyre chock full of new features and fixes and then you get in the game and realise its still just as janky as it was the last time you played.
You don't seem to understand his point. These missions were removed several patches ago. They're not new at all, regardless if you've played them before or not. There are several other features/elements/missions that were removed years ago. Taking these things that we had before and bringing them back doesn't make them new content. A lot of people don't know we used to have service drones for ship repair/refuel. We also used to have a chain of missions with a decent voice actor. (ICC/Tessa). We used to have a landing/ take-off radar. So yes, it is lazy for CIG to say they added more content than originally planned. It's like if your car manufacturer removed heated seats 5 years ago and brings them back as something new.
@@spicyhunter0734 you seem wrapped around the axel about what is/is not new. IDK if it’s new or recycled. I am easy to please, just glad there is more to choose from.
@vasilizaitsez7455 And you seem incredibly defensive about something that isn't attacking you. Good for you if you're easily pleased. Doesn't change the fact that it's a valid point and people are right for wanting more out of a "game" that's been in development for so long and seems to be going nowhere. If you're happy then keep on going and let others who are more demanding bring their points foward.
at the end of the day all of these mission types are just tests. They test the economy, the combat, the ai etc. Cig have said their desire is to have these dynamically driven. The different factions fighting with each other and will spawn in based of The background narrative that is going on (probably based on your rep, your proximity the that area etc) some may even be player driven. Ai attacking popular trade routes etc. The Current way missions work where they just re spawn copy pasted and you just farm them is not how Cig want the PU to feel that have been pretty clear about that.
@@marcuswynn89problem is, ultra fast speeds have more of a detriment to the future of the game than current. Big ship gameplay and group play is where it’s at. This is about The MMO, not AC. AC can burn for all I care. It’s not remotely important to the future product
@bahdudejhosh_official no the real problem is a light fighter can out range multi crew ships. You can slow the game speed to 10m/s and that would still be a problem.
the new devs are sadly noobs, master modes, throttle and hud are so poor and cant qualify as a sim. also the new power system are just bad. no hype for SC anymore after jcrewe and yoki ruined flight
what's the point in you all being this toxic? If you don't like being an alpha playtester, then just leave...take a break. It's not that hard. You people end up whining and moaning yet you're still here, either playing SC or watching content about SC. It's honestly more cringy than white knights, at least they're doing something they like, but you people.....
@marcuswynn89 Yes it's a new company making something that hasn't been made yet, they have tech established companies wish to own/buy its unprecedented. Yes it has been a long time but you also can't compare it to anything else. We can argue back and forth but the fact is this is what we have you can call it what you want but at the end of the day it's testing for free.
@Primordial_Originator other games already have server meshing, the only thing that’s inherently different are the high fidelity space ships. However the tech behind the game isn’t new
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I swapped to industry initially because I figured by the time the PU actually went live I would be deep enough in my retirement where my reflexes wouldnt be able to keep up. Then I see videos like that make me reconsider. Its slowed down to the point where you can practically make a cup of coffee in the time it takes to close the distance to the target. It may be slow enough to play when I get to be an old man, but where is the fun in it.
"Lazy" describes it all
They spent all of my money on these shows.
1 step forward, 2 steps back development, the longer they can stay in development, the more money they make, everyone knows, when a game actually releases, it slowly bleeds players and funding, like radar targeting on your hud was a thing, got taken out, now its back, but oh wait now all the quantum drives are all nearly identical, its like they go through and touch all the numbers of the drives and made them temporary fixes on purpose for the sake of having more work later on
"if you love your player base, bring this gameplay loop back in it's entirety..." - Chris Roberts is making the game he wants, not the game we want. Some of the decisions they make boggle the mind, even after they get constructive feedback from the community.
"Star Citizen is a mile wide and an inch deep" - I didn't realize how true that was until I stopped playing SC after Mistake Modes and started playing EVE Online. Not only did I learn how much SC has "borrowed" from EVE online but, also how much SC is trying to be EVE in first person. EVE is the opposite of SC ... a mile wide but, with great depth and cohesion.
Keep the based content coming Marcus!
I appreciate that
He isnt making a game, hes making an interactive animated movie, sq42, the pu is just the money maker.
@@heru_ur6017 It does feel more and more like that. Which, sometimes, makes me worry about the long term future of Star Citizen especially given Chris's history of abandoned projects and failed companies. But, if it's still pulling in the money (for other projects) despite the poor record of delivering on content, it will be around for as long as it's useful in that respect. There are other chapters of SQ42 to be developed after the first is released so, draw you own conclusions - will SC always be second to SQ42, as a priority for CIG?
This is why I thought this event was 4.0 only, why bother releasing yet another event the servers cant handle? Im not playing this game again until 4.0, it just crushes under its own weight.
Lack of mission depth is what led me to delete my main account.
Hopefully you didn’t have too many purchased ships
I meant sell it. Sorry lol still have a small account just in case SC does something great.
@jeremyj5932 that’s good bro
Lack of depth on most of the gameplay currently. Game feels kind of pointless at the moment.
I agree on the low effort thing. Did you notice that the new "free" paints (as part of BIS) were all significantly low effort. While the paid skins are better. And it's been a common trend.
The changes to the flight model, dumbing down FPS combat ... all are taking SC to an even shallower state.
Probably removed it because it was too easy money. Gotta sell those ships.
CIG has been making the game for so long the devs just passed a whole generation, now they're hiring kids who don't know how to make a good game
Yeah and that’s apparent in any specialized field you need people there with real experience that have actually shipped projects
I can't believe the cutty even though has more weight to it still out maneuvers a f8c.....that thing is suppose to keep up with the vanduul...oh and I totally agree with you
It’s insane right
weight isnt everything, maybe cutty got stronger engines?
Their logic just seems so backwards with a lot of things. You doing service beacons brings back good memories of my brief hopes for this game though.
It will be brief because they will be gone as soon as the event is over
@@marcuswynn89 yeah, I understand
OMG that green space.
As long a a loop functions without error, I welcome it back. Its also a nice battle loop for new comers.
It’s one of the best game play loops for new players
I didn't realize these were out of the game since I don't do space combat anymore (MM is legitimately awful, anyone who stans for it is a chump and a sucker). I know it seems low-effort but I'm more than confident that something this simple is still very, very hard for them to implement. The first mistake in this project was choosing the Cryengine. They may have taken it a long way but its been fighting them this entire time.
the majority of their player base is banned on spectrum since decades of neglect
Here, here!
keep telling the truth man and doing ur thing. ur speaking for the people 💯
they can't stop me bro
Those "loops" are templates for other similar missions. I dont see the problem here.
Theres a chance that you'll find players or NPC's being attacked and asking for help.
CIG spent the last year making space combat worse. I want the 3.21 flight model back and space combat speeds that exceed a 2024 single engine propeller plane at sea level.
I totally agree
Very well said!
Thanks Benj good to see you in the comments
almost there almost there! a little more!
Bro when I heard that I was like they really just copy and pasted this and made it worse
the speeds is too fucking slow my god
It’s hella slow
"MM is Slow? We can fix it I'll make it slower" -yogi 2024
@canop1601 that’s what they wanted to do, apparently Mach 1 in space is too fast
just need to wait for 3.24.3.....🙈🙈
It all seems like low effort these days. YOu get your usual shills that make their money from doing SC videos making the updates look like theyre chock full of new features and fixes and then you get in the game and realise its still just as janky as it was the last time you played.
thats why i gotta keep it real for ya'll
So what if missions get recycled?! You’ve played it but newbies haven’t. If this is a Rep 0 mission, great!
What are you talking about, I’m saying through mission loop should have never went away
@@marcuswynn89 So the LOW EFFORT! thumbnail is just clickbait and not what you mean?
You don't seem to understand his point. These missions were removed several patches ago. They're not new at all, regardless if you've played them before or not. There are several other features/elements/missions that were removed years ago. Taking these things that we had before and bringing them back doesn't make them new content. A lot of people don't know we used to have service drones for ship repair/refuel. We also used to have a chain of missions with a decent voice actor. (ICC/Tessa). We used to have a landing/ take-off radar. So yes, it is lazy for CIG to say they added more content than originally planned. It's like if your car manufacturer removed heated seats 5 years ago and brings them back as something new.
@@spicyhunter0734 you seem wrapped around the axel about what is/is not new. IDK if it’s new or recycled. I am easy to please, just glad there is more to choose from.
@vasilizaitsez7455 And you seem incredibly defensive about something that isn't attacking you. Good for you if you're easily pleased. Doesn't change the fact that it's a valid point and people are right for wanting more out of a "game" that's been in development for so long and seems to be going nowhere. If you're happy then keep on going and let others who are more demanding bring their points foward.
at the end of the day all of these mission types are just tests. They test the economy, the combat, the ai etc. Cig have said their desire is to have these dynamically driven. The different factions fighting with each other and will spawn in based of The background narrative that is going on (probably based on your rep, your proximity the that area etc) some may even be player driven. Ai attacking popular trade routes etc. The Current way missions work where they just re spawn copy pasted and you just farm them is not how Cig want the PU to feel that have been pretty clear about that.
That’s not the point, if you have something that works keep and players like it, it’s worth keeping around
12 years on and CIG is still in the theorycrafting phase. It’s just sad.
@@marcuswynn89problem is, ultra fast speeds have more of a detriment to the future of the game than current. Big ship gameplay and group play is where it’s at. This is about The MMO, not AC. AC can burn for all I care. It’s not remotely important to the future product
@bahdudejhosh_official no the real problem is a light fighter can out range multi crew ships. You can slow the game speed to 10m/s and that would still be a problem.
the new devs are sadly noobs, master modes, throttle and hud are so poor and cant qualify as a sim. also the new power system are just bad. no hype for SC anymore after jcrewe and yoki ruined flight
Stfu a lot is better now imo
@RickyM lmao so you not see the visible desync
@@RickyM for noobs yes, master modes takes 10 min to master. no skill needed anymore as its just a dps race.
@brianfury9790 exactly
SC glory days are long gone, its all downhill now. Cant wait for the new king to arise.
Everytime I see someone in combat with the new MM I just cringe...Its so slow and boring. Its hard to believe this is what CIG thinks is fun
It’s super cringe
what's the point in you all being this toxic? If you don't like being an alpha playtester, then just leave...take a break. It's not that hard. You people end up whining and moaning yet you're still here, either playing SC or watching content about SC. It's honestly more cringy than white knights, at least they're doing something they like, but you people.....
Pointing things is not being toxic you’re not going to just come here and say that. This is has been an “alpha” for 12 years already.
You understand that its not gameplay its not for your enetertainment yet its development you are testing mate not playing
what you are saying is nothing more than a coping excuse, its been 12 years already
@marcuswynn89 Yes it's a new company making something that hasn't been made yet, they have tech established companies wish to own/buy its unprecedented. Yes it has been a long time but you also can't compare it to anything else. We can argue back and forth but the fact is this is what we have you can call it what you want but at the end of the day it's testing for free.
@Primordial_Originator other games already have server meshing, the only thing that’s inherently different are the high fidelity space ships. However the tech behind the game isn’t new
@marcuswynn89 Like I said not gonna argue bro, you do you
@Primordial_Originator can you honestly look at the desync and say the patch is in a good place?