Spit The Lifting Black Pill Out! (Schrodinger's Genetics)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Genetics are important. But perhaps it's better for your lifting journey to be cautiously optimistic, rather than fatalist.
SPIT THAT BLACK PILL OUT.
Timestamps:
00:00 Geoff Says Happy Chinese New Year
00:16 Schrodinger's Genetics
01:09 The Problem With "The Typical Fitness Journey"
03:16 Brad Pitt
04:48 cautious optimism vs fatalistic pessimism
06:12 elite genetics aren't needed
06:54 non responders
08:03 you don't know your genetics until MANY YEARS of training and eating well
10:06 worrying about what you can't control is asinine
10:50 genetics is just part of the picture
12:10 you might surprise yourself, give it an honest shot
14:19 grab my book it'll help, I appreciate the support!
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Greg: F@#$ programming, train hard. F#@$ Calorie Surplus ,buy my cookbook.
Clients: Dont grow
Greg: You have bad genetics. Buy my turkesterone
Clients: Still dont grow
Greg: You should have realistic expectations
Pretty much, yea.
Clients: I didn't get the promised 4lb of muscles in a month!
Greg: Buy my 1000$ coaching plans!
I'd like to throw in another one.
Greg: "There's no point in training abs."
Clients: **15% bf, no abs.**
Greg: "If you don't have abs, YOU'RE FAT!"
Clients: **Now have body dysmorphia.**
Also Greg, in response to critics: "I'm still right. You guys don't like what I said and think I'm mean bc I'm telling you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear."
On point. Genetics are most relevant when you start separating the top competitors from the GOATs and you have to get within arms reach of that world before you really have earned an opinion on it. For those still trying to get reasonable body-fat and the strength of a typical farm-hand, focusing on genetics is the lifting equivalent of "I have a glandular problem"
Appreciate that! And yea...I've encountered several potential clients who told me they had a thyroid problem, but never had it tested 🤷♂️
Does it get tiring as a coach? What keeps you guys going on with people like this? I know my answer, but I want to pick your brains.
@@GVS they say" what ever I eat, I get fatter" so it's obvious, and if ask them what's your physical activities they are non existent.
@@thegamechanger3317 always someone claiming they ate barely anything this week and still gained weight. Meanwhile you watched them gobble up 1200 calories in just under 20 minutes...
Same with "I just can't grow/get stronger" and they're trying to stay lean and use sub functional percentages no failure no volume and tonnage management.
@@bodbui8426 I can work with who I want as there's large demand. They were _potential_ clients because I didn't want to work with them as I didn't think they'd be willing to put in the work. Doesn't happen often though.
Like Mike Mentzer once said " Don't worry about your individual potential, potential is only the expression of a possibility something that can be assessed accurately only in retrospect in other word you'll never know how good you might have become unless you try"
Real.
Yes, the effective and well done work and thought is inevitable, It is accounted for
According to the internet I'm either:
1.Genetically elite
2.Only strong because I'm fat
3.Fake natty
@@iangraham-white5717 Ruth also had cocaine, but I'm sure other did too 😂😂😂 Jokes aside, mindset and work ethic can carry even an "average" individual pretty far.
@@iangraham-white5717 my wrists are smaller than that and I've benched 550lbs. People put too much weight into shit they cant control anyway. Shoot themselves in the foot before they even start.
I mean genetics are incredibly important to build a human being
One of my favorite anecdotes is John Meadows describing how he had "bad" genetics for his back while his hamstrings genetics were great. He went on to clarify that it was more how well his muscles would respond to volume or certain exercise selection (his hamstrings would grow using most anything while his back wouldn't respond well to traditional back exercises). Of course, John Meadows still had "good" genetics for his back, but for his purposes it didn't grow as well as he needed it to actually compete in shows. Instead of accepting this and giving up, he experimented with different back exercises, volumes, and intensities until finally he found a back routine that actually grew his back.
Rip to the beast and legend. I remember him talking about that
Isn't all science shrödinger's science in a way. I could write a paper on God is real and pigs can grow wings and so the sun can burn their wings because they fly too close to the sun. It can be the worst paper known to man, but maybe 5-10 years later and better scientist proves my terrible paper.
RIP John
My genetics have sky rocketed since I doubled my volume, while maintaining my intensity (and yes i used to sleep 6-7 hours, now i sleep 8-9 hours). I made more gains in one year, than the past 4 years.
Ngl sleeping hard asf
You can't change genetics significantly in your life
Going to have "genetics genetics genetics genetics" stuck in my head now. Thanks Geoffrity
That overhead tricep clip was both ugly AND beautiful 😂 Way to max out!! 👏
It’s so true that it’s mostly going to be about diet, exercise and consistency. People get too fixated on genetics as well as supplements too!
Genes do determine some things. Like wrist size height Etc... But Tom platz said before. "To hell with my genetics". And just look at what he did. Watch out for the gaslighting from Greg douchebag.
People do this with goals in general, focussing on small things or those which are out of their control or something they already know they’re unwilling to do and use it as an excuse.
You can control your diet, sleep and training… rest is just small fry. Not like I can go to my parents and be like, this is shit, try again.
People who’re on the verge of being able to go pro and are considering peds or not are the exception, then do determine if your genetics aren’t the limiting factor.
@@raygengamer8440 Exactly! And everyone should say fuck genetics because most people have the potential to look incredible. oh all should be ware of G shred!!!
@@raygengamer8440 I like Tom platz he's legs and calves were huge but you do know he took gear.
Quit the crap most pro body builder take gear and I'm not talking just test, and alot of the stuff they take is top grade
As someone with about 8 years of actual training who's still relatively small, I've seen a lot of people shoot ahead of my progress within a year or two, but it doesn't stop me from altering my programming and trying new things, and I'm still strong as hell for a 160lb skinny dude.
Not gonna hop on juice or throw in the towel and train less. If anything, I appreciate the gains I've made more than the average person because I look significantly better than the 130 lanklet I was at age 18.
Even still, I'm making strength gains and expect more size to come as long as I work hard. Never give up 💪
Represent, king!
Stop maingaining.
@Kustaan pojat nurkkaan Stop assuming I haven't been dirty bulking and accept the fact not everyone grows lean tissue at the same rate
@@BasedChadman Give us your bulk stats then.
@@kustponu Stop going around and trying to coach people like they asked for it. I get if you're just trying to help, dude, but maybe wait until someone asks for the advice.
How important are genetics to you depends mainly on your goals. My goal is to become a pro bodybuilder and if my genetics suck then I can't fulfill my objective. But if your goal is a generic: get bigger, get leaner or shit like that who cares about your genetics if you do things correctly you will get bigger, not biggest but bigger and so on and so forth. Your quality of life is determined by your genetics and envairoument, but you can't just cry because you got the short end of the stick, you gotta do what you can.
Agree with you and with the video, genetics matter a lot of you want to assess if it's worth pursuing bodybuilding to an elite level. For everyone else worrying about them is a complete waste of time and too easy of an excuse, better to focus on optimising things we can control
@@joeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee This is what matters. High goals, high risks and big chanches of losing. But that's the good thing about competition, you decide for yourself and give your all. If you are not competing just be sure to have fun.
That comment you posted by Curlean-X was kind of eye-opening. I started thinking I had poor genetics about a year ago, which would have been three years into my training. Most of that time would have been intense, consistent, and smart. However not all of it would have been with the same goal. And some of it would have been Calisthenics due to lockdowns, which is as much about skill as it is building strength and muscle. But Curlean-X mentions 10 years, so maybe I should sideline that thought and just keep doing what I can.
A part of the reason why I bring up genetics so often is because of the arbitrary standards that others have created, even guys I look up to like Alpha Destiny. I remember him saying years ago something in the way of "you aren't an intermediate until you can lift X amount". And others have criticised my progress by suggesting my programming is off, or my diet, my effort, etc. But they're not. I have gone through everything with a fine tooth comb. So naturally I bring up genetics because it's the only thing I can't control.
The problem is, whenever I say I have bad genetics, people with "good genetics" think I'm accusing them of not putting in as much as I do, which is not true. I only say that I have bad genetics so people stop trying to push arbitrary standards on everyone, painting us all with the same brush or suggesting that we "don't train hard enough". I have burnt myself out trying to live up to the standards that others set. That's why I talk about genetics-I'm tired of being told I should be able to do what others do, and if I don't then I'm "not training hard enough".
EDIT: Also, I'm not trying to moan about my genetics. I actually have some areas that I excel in naturally. I have thin skin and so I'm quite vascular. Even at around 20% bodyfat, I'm covered in veins, and the striations of my shoulders can be seen. I also have a strong back. I can row and pull as much as most in my gym who press and squat more than me.
I completely agree. A lot of people are willing to give up based purely on their assumptions about their genetics. I had been a victim of this in the past. During my first two years of lifting, i saw no progress and assumed that i just wasn’t cut out for putting on any sort of mass. I refused to give up and , after properly educating myself, put on roughly 13 lbs of muscle in my 3rd year. Too many people do not realise that they can have at least a top 5% physique with awful genetics if they train hard consistently with appropriate recover and fuel for their bodies. Thanks Geoff great video once again!
Your message is very motivating and inspiring, I've been consistently training for 8 years (minus the lockdowns) now and I have truly built a solid body I am really proud of. Fitness industry tries to push dismorphia on us natties but I'm not falling for it.
Still I've definitely had periods of slacking when it comes to putting in effort in the gym and I was thinking that I must be reaching my genetic limit. You make me believe I can achieve so much more and it's really motivating me to work harder in the gym.
I always ate under calories for 5 years so that really stunted how fast I could of grown. In one year I went from a 50 pound dumbell chest row to 90 pound chest row, I can prolly shoot for an easy 100, I went from stagnant 50 pound dumbell bench to 75 pound dumbells for 5, my squat is small but I never trained it till this one year and I can actually have some stability and grove and depth. Can’t wait to keep growing!
it's like when people tell you when you are relatively new that your genetics suck and you might as well give up but when you kept being consistent over years they tell you are lucky to be so genetically blessed lmao
There's a famous quote from a violinist (can't remember who) that goes along the lines of "I practiced every day until my hands bleed for thirty years, and *now* they call me talented" 😂
That Critical Drinker soundbite really caught me off-guard.
Great video! I have recently had personal experience with this. I thought I had bad genetics because I stopped gaining muscle and strength. It never bothered me that much, I figured I would jsut keep on keeping on. But then I had to take a year off because injury, then internship and too little time, then some holiday stuff and then the gyms closed with the cough. I came back, wrote myself a new program, prioritized the things I liked rather than the shilled exercises and started eating more protein. Appearantly my scoops have been waaaaay underdosed. Now I am making gains like never before and having more fun with it than ever before.
Really happy to have found your channel.
Glad to hear it!
during my first 5 to 6 years (!) of lifting, i was a typical cookie cutter bro split maingainer, which resulted in me having the aesthetics and strength of someone who has might have been lifting properly for around a year or even less. during this last month, i started bulking properly, doing full body 3 times a week, lifting heavy, sleeping well and eating mostly natural, whole foods. ive made more size and strength gains in 6 months than in 5 goddamn years. so that whole newbie gains curve thing is complete bs as far as im concerned.
Great video man. The champion mindset is always "Let me see for myself what I've truly capable off". We can live life thinking "what if" or we can give things our best shot and see what happens.
Also the edits were hilarious 😂
Another great video. Thanks 🙏
Your videos are getting funnier and funnier but no less informative. Impressive
Awesome video. The undereating part really stuck with. For years I had poor nutrition and didn't make substantial gainz. But after deciding to lean bulk. I'm hitting PRs and getting bigger. Genetics matters. But they are not everything
Great video mate 👍
Your content's helping me out a lot!
I've been lifting for 10 years and always blamed genetics for my pencil legs, looking like a upside-down dorrito despite squatting frequently and consistently for years.
I convinced myself that if i can squat 160kgx8 and deadlift 210kgx5 i should have big legs.
Turns out i was just too busy chasing numbers and assuming i had hit my genetic potential to see that my squat and deadlift were just all back....
Since moving to a narrow, upright high bar squat I've had to strip 60kg off my max, but my legs are finally starting to catch up in size.
Chasing numbers and consistently hearing about genetic limits made it so easy to blame my own genetics.
It was actually one of your videos about squatting and quad development that convinced me to make the swap.
Edit: From a 6'5 lanky upside-down dorrito, i thank you.
Glad I could help! For some, squatting like a powerlifter produces very little quad growth, it's all hips and back. Can also try hack squats and pendulum squats. I don't have access to either but have heard they're quite good for quads.
@@GVS
Yup, my spinal erectors are probably as big as my quads as a result of doing the Rippetoe low bar squat for years.
The equipment i have access to is also very limited, i'll continue with high bar and hopefully report back with juicy quads in no time.
Keep up the good work mate.
@@joelsimmons8667
How is that going for you? I'm asking, because I'm 6'4 and even though my legs are somewhat decent size (according to some greek proportions calculator they are actually bigger than the rest of my body in comparison - guess that's because of a few years of cycling [*on a bicycle, not test cycling*]) I rarely really felt them while squatting, it was mostly my hips, back and glutes. Which actually fits your scenario, because I've been doing low bar squats since I started going to the gym, because of my shit mobility. High bar just felt bad and wouldn't let me go very low, rather fall back, unless I had some heel elevation.
I'm currently unable to go to the gym, so I'm doing mostly calisthenics and whatever weight training that I have access to. I'm also working on my ankle mobility, which I hope is going to help at least a little bit. I've also been using weightlifting shoes, which did help a bit, but still didn't allow me to do the swap without sacrificing a lot of range of motion.
How did you manage to do it? I've heared it's pretty typical for tall guys with long limbs to have problems with going low on squats, because of long femurs. Did you have the mobility from the get go or did you have to work on it? Also - any opinions on swapping to front squats? I've also heared they're easier, because the weight distribution makes it easier to balance, but I'm not sure how efficient you could overload them.
I've changed this curve several times in my eight years of training journey. But as GV mentioned, the pandemic really did affect my training and progress serveral times. Sometimes in a good way and sometimes, in a bad way. Not to mention i got tested positive for Covid last year in the month of May and it almost took me 2 months to recover and then in December 2021, I got typhoid and an intestinal infection. I miss the way I used to look but guess this is how life really is. You rise and you fall, you rise and you run but then you fall again. What matters is rising up each time. Thanks for the content GV. 🙌🏻
Good information, and the edits are out of hand lol i love these.
Finally!…an explanation of the noob gains question I couldn’t find an answer to. I wasted time in the beginning on bad programs and wondered about leaving gains on the table that I could still get. Thanks dude.
Geoffs book and finally getting my nutrition (dumping the mainGaining crap) has me making gains faster than when I started 2 years ago. Now I know it’s not all in my head.
Genetics, supplements, optimum training volume and frequency, high bar vs low bar, etc are all things people love to focus on. People have more access to information that they probably shouldn't because look at what has happened. There are definitely more people lifting nowadays, but there are less average Joe's that are strong and look like it. Gone are the days of training in boots and blue jeans, gone are the days of eating meat and potatoes and not worrying about it, gone are the days of people that just go to work without comparing themselves or worrying about the opinions of others.
Good video Geoff! I think the biggest fallacy of genetics is simply the need to feel justified for your lack of muscles. Knowing that you are not born for being big makes people feel better than knowing they haven't been consistent and metodic with their diet and training. Also, as you said, people don't want to step up: they want results, but they don't actually spend time learning about programming or how to improve their workout, and if they don't want to do themselves, coaches exist for a reason. I mean, being less gifted means you have to work harder than others to get the same results, it doesn't mean you're stuck.
Fantastic video
Great insight on this topic.
It's a thing of our society. Artists are always told "wow you are so gifted" ignoring years of study and practice. Also people always thank god after someone survives a high risk surgery ingoring the effort of the medical team and the advances of science based medicine.
Ew an atheist
Atheist reditor
@@richardsmith8146 I don't use reddit so with 'atheist' is enough.
@Keep Looking Up why do you call me 'punk'?
@Keep Looking Up should I care about it?
Great video.I love the movie stuff in there. And the drinkers "It'll be fine"😂
Imo, everyone has the potential to look aesthetic, strong and impressive. The real "genetic" difference in my opinion is entirely mental. Some people are able to withstand more pain, mental and physical, and simply push to levels not achievable for others. When an average man is faced with an individual who is superior to them in many ways physically, their mind defaults to physical genetic difference. But nobody wants to admit, hey, maybe I just don't work as hard as I think I do.
genetics still play a huge role though, two people putting in the same effort will gain different amounts of muscle based off of their genetics. Still not an excuse not to be the best you can be though
@@arulanslave6783 Sure, genetics may influence who's a responder vs a non-responder to training (relatively speaking), but I think the bigger genetic difference is in HOW people look once they build the muscle and get lean. Even if two people build muscle at the same rate and do everything right, they'll still look quite different when they achieve their goal owing to insertions, skeletal structure, etc. I think that's truly where the genetic differences between people are most obvious.
If two people have identical responses to training, build the same amount of muscle, and both get to 10% bf, but one has wide hips/waist + narrow clavicles and the other has narrow hips/waist + wide clavicles, they are going to look markedly different aesthetically (actually even if they have the same skeletal structure they'll still look different due to their individual insertions/muscle bellies). But the important thing is this: they'll both look better than 99% of the general population. The guy with the more aesthetic skeletal structure might just look better than 99.9% of the general population while the other guy will "only" look better than 99%.
So I agree with Geoffrey that 99% of people needn't worry about genetics - they're out of your control anyway. Wisdom is (in part) learning to accept that which is truly out of your control. But also, 99% of people just want a decent physique - they don't want to be the next Mr. Olympia or Michael Jordan (situations where genetics actually are a major factor). They just want a strong / lean beach body. For them, genetics are not going to be the limiting factor because anyone can develop a top 1% physique when compared to the general population with dedication. Focusing on genetics is a waste of energy since you can't change them and since they aren't going to be the limiting factor for 99% of people.
@@m74d3 agreed 100%
Genetics exist. I wouldn’t have got as big and strong without them
Excellent. Absolutely excellent.
Great topic!
There are also different genes that get activated different ways. Like HIT works for some while some react better to full body five times a week and this can also change over time after one kind of progress one is ready for the other.
Been waiting for this
Merci beaucoup pour une très bon information encore.
Thank you for very good information again
Good one, Geoffrey. You´re back on track!
:)
More great, realistic wisdom. Thanks!
Awesome video informative as always glad your the only "influencer" (lol) I sent money to. Your book has been great!
Glad it's been helpful!
One of the best fitness videos I've watched on RUclips. Well done.
Thanks!
The shame here is, I reckon, the people who need to understand this and get over caring so much about genetics, most of them aren't going to be here to hear this, given the (shitty) media circles they're in. However, surely, with time and effort, they'll drickle in -- which I appreciate honest, community BUILDING content like this.
Awesome video !
My favorite fitness channel on youtube
Finally some content to watch
We callled it Lunar new year man.
Happy new year!
Did I catch a "Critical Drinker" clip lol? Great content as always!
Clearly, science has advanced quite a bit, unfortunately, because we know a lot.. we think we know everything. In my opinion, what we actually know about our bodies is just a tip of the iceberg. There is so much more to discover, not to mention everyone's mind & body react differently to certain situations. I think the fitness community has a very closed mindset and at times one dimensional thinking. It is okay to think outside of the norm --> there were countless great discoveries made that way.
Great video
Let's also not forget the role epigenetics could play. Feedback from the environment can influence the expression of your genes. Certainly possible that training hard, recovering correctly and eating well all feedback into your gene expression and helps upregulate genes that help you build muscle or what have you.
Again though this is all theoretical anyways, and even with specific gene examples there still exists no method to quantify your specific genetic mutations (either as SNPs or cis-regulatory changes in regions of the gene that mediate expression) that aid in the abstract idea of "bodybuilding". This is to say that genetics is an extremely complicated area of biology, more so than many fitness channels have you believe, and unless your a pro stepping on stage, its just not worth thinking about. Even if you have "below average" genetics, your advanced natural physique after 10 years of proper training will far surpass 99% of the population
In fact more like six months in the gym and you'll surpass 99 percent of the current population :p
Thanks 👍
SOLID video brother! 💪 Never been a fan of the genetics excuse b/c I know we all control our own fate (and gains) & have been saying all these same things for years as well. So much knowledge in here that every beginner should hear, as it’ll save them from that fatalist mentality that will rob them of years of making great gains.
PS: Your editing game is making huge gains bro! The screaming Greg head part had me laughing my 🍑 off! 😂
tell that to someone who has down syndrome genetics control you
@@thisplaceisntreality5385 While that’s true, it’s also not remotely what’s being discussed here, rendering your point irrelevant to this video, this conversation, or what I said above.
@@FitLabb you said one controls their fate but no one does a person that is handicapped or someone living in a third world country even the average sheep in society has no control over their life even the rich elite are pawns
@@thisplaceisntreality5385 Cmon, guy. We don't have control over everything, but that doesn't mean we have no control. You know that. You chose to type those messages (without punctuation). The point is people are so willing to give up control by convincing themselves, with help from other trying to persuade them, to that they don't have control over something that they in fact do. You have control over the "fate" of your health and body to a great extent, even if very few don't. Genetics are often the black pill, the give-up token. Are you reliquishing some control in your life, friend? Maybe about your direction? I'm not asking you to be honest with us, just honest with yourself.
A friend of mine coaches power lifting for our local special olympics. If you think people with Downs can't respond well to hard training go attend a meet and be corrected.
The Sith Lord
In 3 months of lean bulking and overeating (and also significant increase of training volume) after more that 20 years lifting (obviousy not in the most efficient ways) I have gone from 78 kg 13% BF to currently 90 kg, 15,6% BF. And while I am in 1 to 4 fat to muscle ratio obviously wont stop. That is almost 10 kg of muscle won at 43 years after decades of not growing. Really people blame in genetics, in being natty, what mostly is bad training, bad nutrition, and obsession for leanness and abs. Very good video
I've been training for 20 years, you have a very valid point but I definitely think I'm a long way down that curve, I am fighting for scraps.
Hey you has twenty years of training, you probably look amazing
@@TheMastermind729 I look alright but not overly so, thats 20 years thus far lifetime natty , so with a shirt on look pretty regular, but yeah you can tell I lift.
I took a psychological hit due to getting weaker from Covid (all my lifts dropped horrible). But this gem of video really uplifted my spirit. Even saved it to re-watch whenever I feel down again. Thanks for the content, Geoff 💪
By what %?
Its gonna come back in no time keep up the good work
Geoff almost at 50k 👀
The point is to better one's self. The important thing about the starting point is that maintaining that state is impossible. Do nothing and decay, or train and grow. Express your best genes as best you can.
YOOO GEOFF AND MIGAN COLLAB SOON? Love both your channels btw, keep it UP!
Dump it
LOTR, Rick and Morty... your editor is the coolest guy ever
Excellent message, my dude. Keep hitting the gym, get that progressive overload in, little by little, year by year, you will be a beast, no doubt. Good programming, nutrition and hard work. That combo will always get you in shape.
Why do i only like this channel and Rp man I love only these two channels
I train with the mentality that im elite in every way. When i start to feel run down i have a deload week and then train like a machine again. I eat intuitivly and just try to enjoy the prossess. Ive seen great results. You dont know how much you can do till you try as hard as you can.
3DMJ recently just did a podcast about this idea that you get all your gains in 5 years and then why bother lifting anymore. really good listen, pretty inspirational as well. tldl; there's always more to learn and more to improve on. the journey is the goal for a lot of people who are long into strength sports
For what it's worth, the majority of my strength gains (as far as percentile goes) came in the latter 10 years of 25 years of lifting.
Jigga what? You made me watch this whole thing to figure out what was going on. 😎
Kinda brings back the adage hard work beats genetics. Which could theoretically make sense it’s like the people who peaked in high school vs the ones who didn’t. If your genetics are so good there’s no reason for you to learn more but if your genetics aren’t great you have to learn more and are motivated to do so because that’s how you’ll progress. So weird it’s like, are the genetically blessed the ones with good proportions or good drive?
The way I look at it, the major factor genetics has on training is the absolute ceiling attainable.
Genetics WILL play a factor in you being a WR holding powerlifter ON TOP OF all of the dialed in training.
Genetics will not matter if your goal as an amateur is “getting strong” or “getting lean”.
Excellent video as always Geoff
BTW, the editing skills are picking up
Great video. 9 times out of 10 when lifters blame it on "genetics" its way more likely that it's their terrible work ethic/nutrition or training program.
Because the people that need excuses, are usually the ones not working hard enough.
I’m a genetics freak, I can naturally get up to 300 lbs!
Of fat
You’re looking thick these days, Geoffrey. Keep up the good work!
Wake up babe, new Geoff is up
I think too many people focus on their genetics instead of their programming and hard work, worry less about genetics cause you can't change them just work hard and be your best
I see the tiniest of gains ever single morning
bro the "Greg fanboy" at 2:10 DESTROYED ME
Blessed video, IMHO 99% of lifting problems are not eating enough, shit programming/no effort and not sleeping properly
If ur goal is to look better than most ppl or perform better than most ppl genetics is not an ecxuse but at the highest level of competition its definately an important factor.
I am seriously lifting for 12 years and I made my most significant gains the last 3 years,this theory that after 4 years you are maxed out doesnt make sense to me, personally I was training but my diet was shit thats why I was stuck in a limbo for 5+ years,the moment I fixed my diet I felt like I got nooby gains all over again.
In my experience, you have to put in the work no matter what your supplements, genetics, or drugs. No effort = no results. More effort = short term results. Effort over a long time = actual results. Supplements, genetics, and drugs are over hyped. Effort first, everything else is a distant second. I don't care what you eat, what you inject, or what your genetics are...only effort is going build a skill such as hitting a ball or doing a flip. Great video.
Omg please put more greg it’s so funny
Well said! I generally don’t like hamstring myself with things that I cannot change… genetics, race, height. If you want a great looking physique - put in the work! It will come!
And if I can customize Baz Luhrmann’s advice “Do not follow roided instagram models, they will only make you feel inadequate”
"cautiously optimistic" that was nice.
New subscribe here. Definitely appreciate your take on the "genetics debate". So often I've seen it used as an excuse or a 'crutch', but the fact that you've heard ppl claim that 'effort' is genetic?!?!? Feels like old Grecian line of "Fate decides all". 😝
Yea when people say that I think...OK, you are right, but you're also going to train less hard if you think that way.
@@GVS Exactly! As I understand it, genetics plays a role in you're "total potential" but training hard will get 99% of people to where they want to be.
Love the critical drinker crossover!
Yeah, it’s for sure bothersome when some acknowledge genetics before any other factor. Very reductive. Genetics play their role, but when trainees stress about it above all else, there is certainly a disconnect. Also, love Minority Report 😜
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The equivalent of genetics in every other sphere (be it other sports like Tennis, wrestling, language learning or music) is talent.
How many times have I heard that I or someone else is talented in whatever it is (for me usually in guitar, but guess what..... I practice it daily for hours upon hours and I have done so for years).
That Greg ball that keep repeating "main-gaining" 🤣
Determinism vs free will. Within whatever environment you're in you have the power to make decisions and change your life.
genetics are important when it comes to the starting point imo. Of course ppl react differently but the main difference is ppl with decent muscle muss to start with have a 1-2 year advantage sometimes with ppl who are "naturally" pretty thin like me
Genetics give you a set point, but your setpoint doesn’t determine your outcome. It may change how fast or slow you improve but you can outgrind genetics.
the whole genetics thing is an excuse not to train hard in the gym. so many guys still look the same after 2 years of working out because they skip the compound movements and they dont aim for progression all they do is chest flyes and bicep curls
"I have dyel genetics"
"Yeah but do you even lift, bro?"
"No."
You can have the best genetics in the world paired with terrible work ethic or no drive.
Let’s worry about the variables we can control.
The best genetics in the world with terrible work ethic will proabbly still beat 90% of other people though. The difference between high and low responders in terms of muscle gain is huge.
Hello there. Decided to watch this video out of boredom and randomness. As an ectomorph/hardgainer who made some gains through lifting and more frequent eating over the years, I can work with being "cautiously optimistic." I'll train at my own pace while I can, but I'll have to come to terms with not looking as massive or swole as other folks who've trained longer and who have better potential.
Just take it week by week! 💪💪💪
@@GVS I try, but I'll also come to terms with my limits. Kudos to my former college classmates for making better gains than me.
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Genetics is pure, unfiltered coping
ok,,so this is my observation after lifting for as long as i have,,i think to many lifters lift or try to lift to heavy to fast,i believe your body adapts to strenght faster than muscle can build,,and then lifters get stuck,able to lift a crap load of weight but never really build good muscle shape,,yes they get bigger,,but not bigger in a bodybuilding way,,they just don't look like a body builder should look,,then they are always trying to press for more weight and quite poss a injury that could take them out of lifting all together,,i lift moderate and add very small weight every couple of weeks,,then after about 3 months i start over but with 2.5 to 5 pounds heavier,,then rinse and repeat,,i have found that my muscle adapts to that smaller increment and i get much better stimulation on the muscle,,this is of coarse as a natural lifter,,and thats just my observation