Especially if you're natural, my book is a MUST. If you're frustrated with navigating the river of BULLSHIT that is the fitness industry, it'll help set things straight and help you get to your potential a LOT faster. Learn from my mistakes! www.verityfit.com/product-page/sweat
I wouldn't underestimate the power of a one year transformation. If you start out from zero (no history of fitness) , you can feel like the hulk after one year of dedicated lifting. You won't be impressive by bodybuilding standards, but your friends and family will notice the change and you will feel huge in relationship to your past self.
I was 210 lbs (at 5'10.5") this time last year. A bit fat not a lot of muscle. 6 months later 170lbs through fasting and simple exercise. So 170lbs, 32 inch waist, 13.5" arms, chest 42". Did a high protein calorie surplus with frequent intense resistance training. Weight went to 185lbs, arms 16", chest 46", waist remained the same at 32". Skinfold calipers estimate me at 13% body fat
@@EhurtAfy same story! Started with 220lbs with almost 35+ per Body Fat. After 8 months of continuous lifting, currently at 176lbs, less than 20+ body fat, "acceptable" in shape. 14'' arm, 40ish" chest, 25" Leg. Focused on Compounds, got stronger in it.
All of our physiques look similar for one. It’s almost like the average person can get big as long as they train and have an above average mindset and patience level...
For sure. A LOT of naturals end up at the same rough body composition/muscle mass. If I'm talking to a natural lifter who has been lifting 8+ years seriously and is my height, often their measurements/weight are fairly close to mine.
Depends on what your definition of "big" is. The perfect representation of an average genetics natty physique is Mario Tomic. Looks great imo, but not really big by any metric.
@@cimi93x Well yea that's true, even I get called small still, depends on someone's perspective. In the modern world (aka with prolific PEDs) naturals can't really get "big" in comparison.
@@GVS i most definitely would describe you as big by natty standards, no question, whoever says otherwise is either comparing you to PED users or to the elite of the elite natty guys, which doesn't make much sense.
Aside from the ever important use of Progressive Overload & consistently working hard, I also think checking the ego at the door is something all successful natural lifters generally have in common. 💪
I mean to an extend yeah but I think a lot of succesful natty lifters like to push themself to the limit and add more weight whenever possible. Thats just the mentality you need to have. If youre that guy that is always careful "what if its too much I dont want to be seen as an ego lifter bohoo I dont want to even swing a little on curls" probably not gonna be optimal.
@@Bebolife12345 I know, but the video is about natural lifters who have good technique. Not enhanced lifters who have good technique. Which is why I made the distinction.
Yep, I like to focus on getting really good at a particular exercise rather than progressive overload. Focus on that and the progression will come naturally. (Of course things such as exercise variety are still needed though)
Exactly. If you love working out, no matter how slow your muscle building process is, you will eventually end up jacked because the consistency will be dialed in.
I think the more advanced you become the more higher intensity matters. It seems to be a consistent trend that every natural lifter who have near 10, at, or more “good” years of training don’t make optimal gains without high intensity. I think conjugate or conjugate light whatever you want to call it is important as well, even Alec Enkiri is hopping on that train now. I think RPE/RIR ties into intensity and is why some people swear they get more gains from going to failure all the time. It might be that after 5 or so good years if you’re still sticking to conventional mainstream methods of training then failure or 0 reps in the tank is the only way you’re getting in that extra intensity. I much rather not do this, not only bc I don’t think it’s as optimal but leaving reps in the tank on volume sets is better for injury prevention
MY physique was same for months and I thought I was working hard but then I started giving my all effort and then I started to see results with weeks,great video
"What can I achieve in a year?" is a funny sort of question. On the one hand, it's perfectly reasonable to have a yardstick for progress, and in one year seems as decent as any other length of time. On the other hand, it's hard to shake the feeling that the people asking it are really saying "If I can achieve something pretty impressive within a year, then oooh-kay, I guess I'll put in the effort it, but if it's gonna take longer than that, then screw it, it's not worth it."
Alpha destiny should definitely have been on the thumbnail pic. Not only one the strongest nattys in the community but an extremely intelligent and well rounded lifter in multiple facets of the game. 👌🏻
@@jugheadsrule I'm not above suspecting anyone of PED use, but I don't really see any telltale signs on Alex. I'm gonna sound like the biggest hater saying this (so I hope he doesn't read it, because I respect his accomplishments), but I don't find his physique all that aesthetically impressive.
Looking up the oldtime strongmen is always a great inspiration. They looked amazing working as a circus sideshow or lifting farm equipment in their backyard. Just think what you can do.
I'm natural and I opt for the lower volume high output route with a 2 a week frequency (currently using upper/lower split with each session having set biases) And I personally find this most optimal for myself. But I have programmes high volume 1 a week frequency for clients and see excellent responses. It's all about finding what your body responds to most efficiently
Ive been training on and off for years(3months on,9months off) and have just started seeing progress because i have stopped taking extended breaks 😂 Ive made more progress in the 6months bodyweight and dumbbells, then the last 6 months with bar and squat rack, than all the training time i had previosly combined. So its very important to keep training consistently Great vid btw
Yup consistency is crucial. The research shows novices can take time off without much consequence but I've never found that to be the case if more advanced.
Steroids were created in 1935, unlikely for them to be natty, stop deifying ‘old school’ when they aren’t innocent either, considering drug tests at that time is almost non existant.
@@Kus519 I'd probably second that. While synthetic steroids weren't meaningfully available until the latter half of the 1950s, testosterone was isolated from testicles in the mid 1930s and was mentioned in a U.S. fitness magazine as early as 1938. It would be unreasonable to believe that the absolute peak muscular specimens in the world during the golden era (1940-1959) weren't partaking to some degree. In the top echelon there's always the onus of getting the edge, being the best you possibly can. We'd have to go back to the bronze era (1894-1939) to get a feel for what a cohort of most likely truly natural but genetically "elite" bodybuilders could achieve. With the caveat that their training methodology was most likely somewhat (but not as much we might think) subpar compared to today; they might have been slightly more muscular and lean with a distillation of the science- and experience-backed knowledge of 2021.
@@Kus519 This has been beaten to death, steroids were invented in 1935 but they weren't widely available until the 1960s. Bill Pearl did the earliest known steroid cycle in 1961. Honestly I think the reason people *always* try to pull this card, is because they are jealous they don't have the genetics to look like John Grimek or Steve Reeves naturally.
@@Paroex The golden era was the 60s and 70s with Arnold, Lou Ferrigno, and Frank Zane. Also Geoffrey blows away all those bronze era bodybuilders so you gotta raise your expectations for whats achievable naturally.
@@Vampire__Squid yeah they werent widely available doesnt mean people Don’t use them, soldiers use them and even hitler himself is thought to use them, you can get your hands to anything if you have enough connections, yeah cocaine is not widely available in my country, but doesnt mean i cant get them, and u had to add a strawman argument at the end.
Your a nice guy for hiding Freakied's body in the thumbnail, knowing full well that he would mog everybody in that picture with his far superior aesthetics.
Hey Geoffrey do you do isolated movements on your traps? Can you do a video on building traps and your opinion on rack pulls with static hold. Thanks for the no bs content.👊
The Bernie Sanders thing - pure comedy gold! 😂 Those shots of you at 5 years and 7 years are extremely helpful to re-align perspective to "natural" reality. Thanks for that.
7:50 this is so true. 99% of people who i know who quit training did so because they were disappointed in the results, or lack there of, after like a couple months. Think this is also due to the crooked standards and the bs sold on social media these days.
@@freakied0550 ay bro your mogging crusade is skewing some views as well lmao but jokes aside i've seen so many noobs hop on gear before even learning how to exercise properly, it's crazy how impatient some people are
@@cimi93x we had a guy at our gym a couple years ago brag about his cycle. Looked like shit and not very strong, and never made any progress. Just got a pump and took selfies from his "good angles". He also parked his Jeep with 2 tires on the sidewalk. Not a coincidence. I've said before and will again, at a certain point, if one wants to go the extra mile for absolute strength, sacrifices to physique will have to be made. Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, or would I necessarily recommend, but it's fun benching people's squats.
@@cimi93x your name is basically the environment i've cultivated at my gym, we all smoke together before or after lifting (depending on the day, we tend to squat sober lmao)
All great points though that last one is so crucial, the number one reason nattys fail is as a result of consistency and adherence from my observations
Nice video, i believe learning is one of the top 3 most important things in the gym, everyone must learn and improve after they first start and should learn more and more advanced stuff, if u do the same sort of training for 3 years dont gain any progress and still think its good u are probably doing something wrong (cof cof crossfit)
DC, rest/pause or full Mentzer is easiest for me, because there's no ambiguity: go to failure, period. Also saves time in the gym. To tune frequency, I _finally_ started keeping a log, and as long as I can add a rep, or around 5% to the bar every week or two (I've got some micro plates), I'm on track. I find that if I hit an exercise more than about twice per week, I tend to stall or backslide. My biggest mistake in the past was not keeping a log. This led me to erroneously question everything when progress was no good. But that's just what works for me. Eg: Nippard looks amazing and he's a volume guy, so: Whatever works for you.
Is this why I have found it so hard to progress my lifts? Because I do the same seven lifts, no variations or alternatives, for my 3x full body routine. I thought we had to choose certain movements and keep getting better at them, progressive overload? Would explain why my body feels so beaten up all the time, could also be eating at maintenance though.
Great video, as usual! Geoffrey (or anyone else), how should I do my cardio? At the moment I do calisthenics workouts three times a week and cardio twice (I know more would be optimal but I'm short on time). As my form of cardio, I've been doing 20-30 minute HIIT cycling workouts for about two-three months, but they have gotten boring and pointless. What other forms of cardio can I do indoors that are short, effective, and won't hinder gains?
Walk. IMO walking is the best. You can do it everyday since it doesn't cause fatigue and don't need to recover from it, you can do it for hours instead of 20-30 minutes HIIT, also burning more calories...
Time. Consistency over time. Effort matters also obviously. We don't always have great workouts. However, a great workout once a month will do nothing. It takes time. As Fit Lab mentioned below, check the ego at the door and don't get hurt. Hit the training day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year. The results will come. Be patient.
*cough cough* that’s a natty supplement that doesn’t do anything in comparison to actual gear like testosterone that gives you significant amounts of lean body mass and decreases overall body fat.
It's true haha. Most of the time when there are multiple videos on screen my phone isn't powerful enough to actually show them in the video editor, so I have to hope that everything displays properly 😅
All Natties have these things in common They apply progressive overload They sleep 8-10 hours They focus heavily on food quality and meal timings and portions which is actually the most important thing If you eat good portion meal every 3-4 hours, you go in the gym and get an extra rep and you sleep 8-10 hours this will add up over the long run and you will get jacked
As a natural and amongst all my friends who I know are natural, I have never met anyone who gets good gains (strength or muscle) doing a bro split. Especially not the proper bro split which is chest-back-shoulders-legs-arms. I’ve known some dudes who’ll do some weird stuff like totally neglect their legs and throw on a superset of leg curls and extensions at the end of a chest or shoulder workout, but no-one I know that isn’t on PED’s is only training a muscle group once every 7 days.
I think anyone can grow their muscles doesn’t matter what kind of split they follow,it’s all bout effort,if you are putting your 💯 effort you’ll will definitely grow muscles
Yea I wouldn't recommend that for everyone, for sure. But this machine is actually easiest/least loaded in that position, and it feels comfortable...if I keep the lower back flat and keep going at the hips instead ("good form") it bothers my labrums so...kinda have to just go by feel!
What is the difference between progressive overload and just trying to do as many reps as possible for a given weight? If indeed all the advice is correct I should be able to add another rep once in a while and slowly get stronger/bigger. Why the fancy, complicated "progressive overload" terminology?
Progressive overload is a very general concept, it could be more weight, more reps, more sets. I did a full video on it (a tier list) if you want to check it out. I wouldn't say it's fancy or complicated, "be better" is sort of basic.
I don't agree with the way you squat. Just try 1 time to use lighter weights and don't lock out/don't get up all the way, but just CONTINUOUSLY keep the tension (for >= 10reps). If you didn't try this, you'd be amazed (at the pump, the workout, the soreness afterwards, the muscle gains). The light weights also makes you stay straight and not "deadlift" the bar (while the quads are resting). Also, personally I'm 37y, I trained (naturally) 1 year when I was 16-17y, and not I started training (midlife crisis) again, and after 4months I got HUGE changes. at least 3kg (6-7lbs) of pure muscle (not fat). The transformation is remarkable (in my opinion - which is what counts the most. But also in most people's opinion). I know the gains will slow down pretty soon, but i argue half a year or 1 year is enough to see a transformation (if you're a mesomorf/athletic type genetically). Nutrition is very important.
@@GVS From my experience/in my case this doesn't apply. I did chin-ups and dips for a longish period. I could barely do 6reps and I didn't improve almost at all. (I couldn't do large grip pull-ups btw). Then after I started doing a lot of volume (3-4 warmup sets, 10-15reps, 12sets per big muscle (legs/back/chest) per session) which required me to use ridiculous light weights, then I started improving - in strength ! (I now tested and I can do 4-5 large grip pull-ups.. ) and in muscle volume its like this (for me): I first feel the pump (only if i do 12reps minimum). Then after ~1-2 weeks I start to feel half of that muscle volume from the pump when I flex the muscle. Then after another 2 weeks the pump gets bigger in the sense that I physically feel some muscle fibers raising on top of others (weird, but that;s my perception). This usually happens at one side - usually the right side (right pect, but left back-lat for some reason.. and right leg). Then after another week I start having the muscle close to the size when it was first pumped (not the "fiber on top of another"). Then the left side catches up, and so one. But imo everything starts with the pump. This is my experience so far.. maybe in the future this doesn't apply anymore, i don't know. I wrote only what I personally experienced so far.
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@@MB-iv6sv did a vid on it, I don't see it being game changing. Team 3D alpha is great though, I have to do a vid on him.
@Vinay Mehta glad you enjoyed it!
Your on RUclips? I see your answers on quora all the time.
@@zachary_smith1 yep, actually I spend most of my time here now
I wouldn't underestimate the power of a one year transformation. If you start out from zero (no history of fitness) , you can feel like the hulk after one year of dedicated lifting. You won't be impressive by bodybuilding standards, but your friends and family will notice the change and you will feel huge in relationship to your past self.
Agreed 1 year can be a massive change and we shouldn't underestimate it. aim high miss high aim low miss low.
I was 210 lbs (at 5'10.5") this time last year. A bit fat not a lot of muscle. 6 months later 170lbs through fasting and simple exercise. So 170lbs, 32 inch waist, 13.5" arms, chest 42".
Did a high protein calorie surplus with frequent intense resistance training. Weight went to 185lbs, arms 16", chest 46", waist remained the same at 32". Skinfold calipers estimate me at 13% body fat
@@EhurtAfy Incredible! You must feel like a god!
@@claybutler I wish, still working through some image issues, not comfortable without a shirt on
@@EhurtAfy same story! Started with 220lbs with almost 35+ per Body Fat. After 8 months of continuous lifting, currently at 176lbs, less than 20+ body fat, "acceptable" in shape. 14'' arm, 40ish" chest, 25" Leg. Focused on Compounds, got stronger in it.
All of our physiques look similar for one. It’s almost like the average person can get big as long as they train and have an above average mindset and patience level...
For sure. A LOT of naturals end up at the same rough body composition/muscle mass. If I'm talking to a natural lifter who has been lifting 8+ years seriously and is my height, often their measurements/weight are fairly close to mine.
Depends on what your definition of "big" is. The perfect representation of an average genetics natty physique is Mario Tomic. Looks great imo, but not really big by any metric.
@@cimi93x Well yea that's true, even I get called small still, depends on someone's perspective. In the modern world (aka with prolific PEDs) naturals can't really get "big" in comparison.
@@GVS i most definitely would describe you as big by natty standards, no question, whoever says otherwise is either comparing you to PED users or to the elite of the elite natty guys, which doesn't make much sense.
@@cimi93x yes I actually feel bad for anyone who insults my physique as it means they have pretty bad body dysmorphia 😅
Mike O’Tren is my favourite natty lifter. He is such a big influence too, taking many Covid vaccines in the gym car park.
Haha 😄 🤣 💀☠☠
🦆🥚🥚🥚
He's my role model.
Great breakdown man! This is definitely similar to my experience, especially the strength to size correlation.
Aside from the ever important use of Progressive Overload & consistently working hard, I also think checking the ego at the door is something all successful natural lifters generally have in common. 💪
Jeff Cavaliere wants to know your location.
@@SuperoviyMalysh Haha! I’m actually not far from him at all, just several towns away.
I mean to an extend yeah but I think a lot of succesful natty lifters like to push themself to the limit and add more weight whenever possible. Thats just the mentality you need to have. If youre that guy that is always careful "what if its too much I dont want to be seen as an ego lifter bohoo I dont want to even swing a little on curls" probably not gonna be optimal.
Uh no
@@FitLabb Let's hope you never meet him.
Successful natty lifters know that building an impressive physique will not come easy, but they relish the challenge of achieving it.
Maybe another thing is prioritizing recovery. For example, eating healthy, sleeping well, avoiding excessive alcohol, and other practices.
Regarding technique, I was really impressed by how Chris Bumstead performs his exercises. Textbook technique, and he never let's ego get in the way.
Yeah Chris Bumstead is enhanced though. But he does have nice technique
@@BrentCox2B
Being natural or enhanced makes no difference to what qualifies good technique
@@Bebolife12345 I know, but the video is about natural lifters who have good technique. Not enhanced lifters who have good technique. Which is why I made the distinction.
@@BrentCox2B You are correct! I concede. Have a nice day.
Most important part is learning to love the process and the rest will come naturally 💪
Yep, I like to focus on getting really good at a particular exercise rather than progressive overload. Focus on that and the progression will come naturally. (Of course things such as exercise variety are still needed though)
Exactly. If you love working out, no matter how slow your muscle building process is, you will eventually end up jacked because the consistency will be dialed in.
It’s an honor to be able to play the role of Aquaman on the cover
Honored to make it in the thumbnail!! 🙏🙏 Great breakdown!
Just found your channel this week and I've been binge-watching. Gotta love a no BS fitness RUclipsr, they are rare these days
Welcome to the channel! :)
4:26 that 5 to 7 years pics: thank you for that. Really helps as a rehab from social media & their fake natties.
Scott Herman is THE original natty RUclipsr. He’s done a lot of good over the years and deserves to be in that thumbnail 😏
Meh.
Alec Enkiri finally got that feminine sweep on his quads.
I think the more advanced you become the more higher intensity matters. It seems to be a consistent trend that every natural lifter who have near 10, at, or more “good” years of training don’t make optimal gains without high intensity. I think conjugate or conjugate light whatever you want to call it is important as well, even Alec Enkiri is hopping on that train now. I think RPE/RIR ties into intensity and is why some people swear they get more gains from going to failure all the time. It might be that after 5 or so good years if you’re still sticking to conventional mainstream methods of training then failure or 0 reps in the tank is the only way you’re getting in that extra intensity. I much rather not do this, not only bc I don’t think it’s as optimal but leaving reps in the tank on volume sets is better for injury prevention
MY physique was same for months and I thought I was working hard but then I started giving my all effort and then I started to see results with weeks,great video
Strength size correlations are better when strength isn't gauged by squat/bench/deadlift
Agree, in a lot of cases.
"What can I achieve in a year?" is a funny sort of question. On the one hand, it's perfectly reasonable to have a yardstick for progress, and in one year seems as decent as any other length of time. On the other hand, it's hard to shake the feeling that the people asking it are really saying "If I can achieve something pretty impressive within a year, then oooh-kay, I guess I'll put in the effort it, but if it's gonna take longer than that, then screw it, it's not worth it."
Yes it's either a very reasonable question or it's one that raises a lot of red flags...usually the latter.
Alpha destiny should definitely have been on the thumbnail pic. Not only one the strongest nattys in the community but an extremely intelligent and well rounded lifter in multiple facets of the game. 👌🏻
I immediately tought of that
Heh, sure. added.
Nice pfp
@@jugheadsrule man, you have strange expectations for what natural lifters can and can't achieve.
@@jugheadsrule I'm not above suspecting anyone of PED use, but I don't really see any telltale signs on Alex. I'm gonna sound like the biggest hater saying this (so I hope he doesn't read it, because I respect his accomplishments), but I don't find his physique all that aesthetically impressive.
Looking up the oldtime strongmen is always a great inspiration. They looked amazing working as a circus sideshow or lifting farm equipment in their backyard. Just think what you can do.
I'm natural and I opt for the lower volume high output route with a 2 a week frequency (currently using upper/lower split with each session having set biases) And I personally find this most optimal for myself. But I have programmes high volume 1 a week frequency for clients and see excellent responses. It's all about finding what your body responds to most efficiently
I have 0 fun training but I love it. Strength training mimics life; like you said it's more the process than the goals.
0 fun SIR, so it's not fun anymore? - Coach Boon; Ref. Remember the Titans
Ive been training on and off for years(3months on,9months off) and have just started seeing progress because i have stopped taking extended breaks 😂
Ive made more progress in the 6months bodyweight and dumbbells, then the last 6 months with bar and squat rack, than all the training time i had previosly combined. So its very important to keep training consistently
Great vid btw
Yup consistency is crucial. The research shows novices can take time off without much consequence but I've never found that to be the case if more advanced.
Always going to failure doing the compound movements and some isolation work really does it for me. Just give it all you got!
People should look at silver era(1940-1959) bodybuilders, that was the peak of natural bodybuilding before everyone hopped on the gear
Steroids were created in 1935, unlikely for them to be natty, stop deifying ‘old school’ when they aren’t innocent either, considering drug tests at that time is almost non existant.
@@Kus519 I'd probably second that. While synthetic steroids weren't meaningfully available until the latter half of the 1950s, testosterone was isolated from testicles in the mid 1930s and was mentioned in a U.S. fitness magazine as early as 1938. It would be unreasonable to believe that the absolute peak muscular specimens in the world during the golden era (1940-1959) weren't partaking to some degree. In the top echelon there's always the onus of getting the edge, being the best you possibly can.
We'd have to go back to the bronze era (1894-1939) to get a feel for what a cohort of most likely truly natural but genetically "elite" bodybuilders could achieve.
With the caveat that their training methodology was most likely somewhat (but not as much we might think) subpar compared to today; they might have been slightly more muscular and lean with a distillation of the science- and experience-backed knowledge of 2021.
@@Kus519 This has been beaten to death, steroids were invented in 1935 but they weren't widely available until the 1960s. Bill Pearl did the earliest known steroid cycle in 1961.
Honestly I think the reason people *always* try to pull this card, is because they are jealous they don't have the genetics to look like John Grimek or Steve Reeves naturally.
@@Paroex The golden era was the 60s and 70s with Arnold, Lou Ferrigno, and Frank Zane.
Also Geoffrey blows away all those bronze era bodybuilders so you gotta raise your expectations for whats achievable naturally.
@@Vampire__Squid yeah they werent widely available doesnt mean people
Don’t use them, soldiers use them and even hitler himself is thought to use them, you can get your hands to anything if you have enough connections, yeah cocaine is not widely available in my country, but doesnt mean i cant get them, and u had to add a strawman argument at the end.
-Impressive natural lifters
-sees thumbnail, I'm not there
*DESIRE TO MOG INTENSIFIES*
I got you bro
@@GVS lmao, you didn't have to, but I appreciate you.
Lol you showed up to the thumbnail in a hoodie!
@@atlaspowershrugged Geoffrity looking out for your boy.
I like "full body", 6 days a week, medium to low volume, and medium to sorta high itensity. Usually only 3-4 exercises per workout.
You forgot to add “spent a long ass time training like a madman in a decent caloric surplus”
You forgot to put bloho in the thumbnail. The biggest natural on earth.
Your a nice guy for hiding Freakied's body in the thumbnail, knowing full well that he would mog everybody in that picture with his far superior aesthetics.
Couldn't find a full frontal shot
Subscribed because we need more natural lifting content.
Hey Geoffrey do you do isolated movements on your traps? Can you do a video on building traps and your opinion on rack pulls with static hold. Thanks for the no bs content.👊
Sure thing! I occasionally do shrugs but not that often maybe once a month or so.
Putting that fight club scene in there 😂😂
It’s ironic how you gave Alec wonder woman legs the thumbnail 😂
The Bernie Sanders thing - pure comedy gold! 😂
Those shots of you at 5 years and 7 years are extremely helpful to re-align perspective to "natural" reality. Thanks for that.
very insightful video. keep it going man
Lmao did not see the flawless Bernie memes coming. Well done xD
7:50 this is so true. 99% of people who i know who quit training did so because they were disappointed in the results, or lack there of, after like a couple months. Think this is also due to the crooked standards and the bs sold on social media these days.
Big time. They either quit or hop on gear, the latter forever skewing their views as to what's possible to do naturally.
@@freakied0550 ay bro your mogging crusade is skewing some views as well lmao but jokes aside i've seen so many noobs hop on gear before even learning how to exercise properly, it's crazy how impatient some people are
@@cimi93x we had a guy at our gym a couple years ago brag about his cycle. Looked like shit and not very strong, and never made any progress. Just got a pump and took selfies from his "good angles". He also parked his Jeep with 2 tires on the sidewalk. Not a coincidence.
I've said before and will again, at a certain point, if one wants to go the extra mile for absolute strength, sacrifices to physique will have to be made. Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, or would I necessarily recommend, but it's fun benching people's squats.
@@freakied0550 i'm purely training for size, i bet you can ohp my deadlift lmao (Geoffrity i feel ya bro)
@@cimi93x your name is basically the environment i've cultivated at my gym, we all smoke together before or after lifting (depending on the day, we tend to squat sober lmao)
All great points though that last one is so crucial, the number one reason nattys fail is as a result of consistency and adherence from my observations
You gave Alec Enkiri hair in the thumbnail 😂
Truth great vid Geoff!!👌💪😎
Nice video, i believe learning is one of the top 3 most important things in the gym, everyone must learn and improve after they first start and should learn more and more advanced stuff, if u do the same sort of training for 3 years dont gain any progress and still think its good u are probably doing something wrong (cof cof crossfit)
DC, rest/pause or full Mentzer is easiest for me, because there's no ambiguity: go to failure, period. Also saves time in the gym. To tune frequency, I _finally_ started keeping a log, and as long as I can add a rep, or around 5% to the bar every week or two (I've got some micro plates), I'm on track. I find that if I hit an exercise more than about twice per week, I tend to stall or backslide. My biggest mistake in the past was not keeping a log. This led me to erroneously question everything when progress was no good. But that's just what works for me. Eg: Nippard looks amazing and he's a volume guy, so: Whatever works for you.
Great points. Lots of ways to train effectively!
And yes, regardless of training style...training log is crucial!
Is this why I have found it so hard to progress my lifts? Because I do the same seven lifts, no variations or alternatives, for my 3x full body routine. I thought we had to choose certain movements and keep getting better at them, progressive overload? Would explain why my body feels so beaten up all the time, could also be eating at maintenance though.
Algo, keep up the good work!
Woooooh,,,, Accidentally watched this video but now count me in forever sir🙏🙏 #nofaketalks
Mind Set-- Knowledge-- Patience
@2:16 um excuse me... band assisted pull-ups and band assisted dips have changed my life!
great video man
Whenever I film my lifts, my working sets look like warmups but they feel like I'm going to die
Great video, as usual! Geoffrey (or anyone else), how should I do my cardio? At the moment I do calisthenics workouts three times a week and cardio twice (I know more would be optimal but I'm short on time). As my form of cardio, I've been doing 20-30 minute HIIT cycling workouts for about two-three months, but they have gotten boring and pointless. What other forms of cardio can I do indoors that are short, effective, and won't hinder gains?
Walk. IMO walking is the best. You can do it everyday since it doesn't cause fatigue and don't need to recover from it, you can do it for hours instead of 20-30 minutes HIIT, also burning more calories...
Explain to me why I'm _not_ seeing Mike Ohern in that thumbnail???🤔🤨
In simplistic terms to quote Orville Burke: "Just train, the muscle will come"
100000000000000% spot on as always.
Your face at 4:01 on the left is hilarious
It's funny how Enkiri is Wonder Woman, since according to kinobody he's got a 'feminine' quad sweep.
Very good recopilation of facts 👌.
I'm not impressed that people that have never done anything consistently for more than a year can't believe you can get big without steroids.
I clicked like just because of those Bernie insertions. lol
Time. Consistency over time. Effort matters also obviously. We don't always have great workouts. However, a great workout once a month will do nothing. It takes time. As Fit Lab mentioned below, check the ego at the door and don't get hurt. Hit the training day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year. The results will come. Be patient.
#1 Short and great genetics.
Yo ho yo ho, a natty life for us 💪🏴☠️
Bands suck on their own but I love them for isolation variety. Mucho pump!
Whoa whoa whoa, how did my boy Igor not make the cut for that thumbnail. He’s the king natty
*cough* *cough*. *TURKESTERONE*
*cough cough* that’s a natty supplement that doesn’t do anything in comparison to actual gear like testosterone that gives you significant amounts of lean body mass and decreases overall body fat.
lol I'll add him. I've added like 4 people in since the original 😂😂😂
Consistency, consistency, and consistency...
hell of a thumbnail!
Why wasn't Athlean X included in the thumbnail? :P
cause he thinks hes a fake natty because he lied about lifting weights.
Love you man
Cookie Monster looking at the thumbnail: "One of these things, is not like the other things..."
"Fucking slick editing that almost fried my phone" I died lmao
It's true haha. Most of the time when there are multiple videos on screen my phone isn't powerful enough to actually show them in the video editor, so I have to hope that everything displays properly 😅
Point number 8! ❤️
1:57 I can relate to that, using too many layers. Which phone do you use for editing?
Xiaomi note 3.
All Natties have these things in common
They apply progressive overload
They sleep 8-10 hours
They focus heavily on food quality and meal timings and portions which is actually the most important thing
If you eat good portion meal every 3-4 hours, you go in the gym and get an extra rep and you sleep 8-10 hours this will add up over the long run and you will get jacked
We don't really know if any of those guys are natural. Sure, they say they are, but who knows.
I wouldn't bet my life on anyone being natural except me. They're just guys who I *think* are natural, there's no way to prove it either way.
Our lord and saviour NH sir also in the thumbnail 😘😘😘😍😍😍🤩🤩😇🥰😇
I don’t enjoy reading ebook on my phone prefer to read hard copy do one bro?
www.amazon.com/SWEAT-Workouts-Exercises-Techniques-Everything-ebook/dp/B0838D5K8X
My fav natty lifter is simeon panda and mike o'hern
The Bernie shots were tight bro! As always enjoy your stuff!
As a natural and amongst all my friends who I know are natural, I have never met anyone who gets good gains (strength or muscle) doing a bro split. Especially not the proper bro split which is chest-back-shoulders-legs-arms.
I’ve known some dudes who’ll do some weird stuff like totally neglect their legs and throw on a superset of leg curls and extensions at the end of a chest or shoulder workout, but no-one I know that isn’t on PED’s is only training a muscle group once every 7 days.
I think anyone can grow their muscles doesn’t matter what kind of split they follow,it’s all bout effort,if you are putting your 💯 effort you’ll will definitely grow muscles
Team NATTY LETS GOOOOO 🙌🏼
Tthumbnail everyone is showing off physique, then Ed in the corner just like "oh its that kind of thumbnail"
He was gonna MOG me again if I didn't put him in!
wow you really round your lower back on the leg press - good thing you can handle it, my herniated disks would not be happy with me if I did that!
Yea I wouldn't recommend that for everyone, for sure. But this machine is actually easiest/least loaded in that position, and it feels comfortable...if I keep the lower back flat and keep going at the hips instead ("good form") it bothers my labrums so...kinda have to just go by feel!
@@GVS Thats awesome! you're killing it man, keep up the good work and heavy lifting!
You are editing your videos on your phone?!
Yea. Kinemaster.
2:16 *ELISTICALLY TRIGGERED*
0:14 snap city form on the leg press.
Don't think so, it actually has the least resistance at the bottom, due to the resistance curve of the machine.
@@GVS Your lumbar spine is flexing under load.
If you're happy to risk it, more power to you.
@@blackphoenix8932 I know myself well, that's absolutely zero issue for me.
Don't think Nippard is natty
you forgot one of the most crucial factors, consistent caloric surplus
Where is Greg O Gallagher
Bands are awesome tho : )
You sound like warowl
What is the difference between progressive overload and just trying to do as many reps as possible for a given weight? If indeed all the advice is correct I should be able to add another rep once in a while and slowly get stronger/bigger. Why the fancy, complicated "progressive overload" terminology?
Progressive overload is a very general concept, it could be more weight, more reps, more sets. I did a full video on it (a tier list) if you want to check it out. I wouldn't say it's fancy or complicated, "be better" is sort of basic.
I didn’t think any of this was specific to naturals
Some overlap with enhanced lifters, of course.
Did I miss something, or did you not mention nutrition? Only similarity between my big friends is that the eat from plastic containers
Nutrition varies significantly. Sure, some similarities but a lot of individuality as well.
Sean Nalewanyj?
Added.
You forgot to mention duck eggs
hahaha I see you added GVT 😂 god dam you !
oh wait GVS isnt GVT whats GVS?
I am
Nevermind Im a retard.
I'm pretty well rounded when it comes to my physique and thoughts 😊
I don't agree with the way you squat. Just try 1 time to use lighter weights and don't lock out/don't get up all the way, but just CONTINUOUSLY keep the tension (for >= 10reps). If you didn't try this, you'd be amazed (at the pump, the workout, the soreness afterwards, the muscle gains). The light weights also makes you stay straight and not "deadlift" the bar (while the quads are resting).
Also, personally I'm 37y, I trained (naturally) 1 year when I was 16-17y, and not I started training (midlife crisis) again, and after 4months I got HUGE changes. at least 3kg (6-7lbs) of pure muscle (not fat). The transformation is remarkable (in my opinion - which is what counts the most. But also in most people's opinion). I know the gains will slow down pretty soon, but i argue half a year or 1 year is enough to see a transformation (if you're a mesomorf/athletic type genetically). Nutrition is very important.
Definitely don't look up my vids on how the pump and soreness are pretty much meaningless for naturals.
@@GVS From my experience/in my case this doesn't apply. I did chin-ups and dips for a longish period. I could barely do 6reps and I didn't improve almost at all. (I couldn't do large grip pull-ups btw).
Then after I started doing a lot of volume (3-4 warmup sets, 10-15reps, 12sets per big muscle (legs/back/chest) per session) which required me to use ridiculous light weights, then I started improving - in strength ! (I now tested and I can do 4-5 large grip pull-ups.. ) and in muscle volume its like this (for me):
I first feel the pump (only if i do 12reps minimum). Then after ~1-2 weeks I start to feel half of that muscle volume from the pump when I flex the muscle. Then after another 2 weeks the pump gets bigger in the sense that I physically feel some muscle fibers raising on top of others (weird, but that;s my perception). This usually happens at one side - usually the right side (right pect, but left back-lat for some reason.. and right leg). Then after another week I start having the muscle close to the size when it was first pumped (not the "fiber on top of another"). Then the left side catches up, and so one.
But imo everything starts with the pump.
This is my experience so far.. maybe in the future this doesn't apply anymore, i don't know. I wrote only what I personally experienced so far.
I’m a high volume guy
I’m loud af.