Comparison Video of Visconti-Sforza Tarot Decks
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- This video compares several Visconti Sforza tarot decks created by a variety of card makers: Il Meneghello; Lo Scarabeo; Marco Benedetti; Mary Packard.
Includes the Visconti Modrone aka Cary Yale; The Brambilla, The Golden Tarot, and Visconti Homage Tarot.
Your presence, presentation and voice are so soothing and reassuring.
Thank you, what a lovely thing to hear. I appreciate that. Thank you for watching and commenting. ~ Marilyn
Hi, Marilynn! Those are interesting decks and I enjoyed seeing them compared in one video. I find them beautiful, but I'm not drawn to owning one. Thank you for sharing and I'm off to watch your recent video on the Minchiate decks. I've been away and I have to catch up!
Hi Frances! I think you'll really like the Minchiate comparison. Welcome back! ~ Marilyn
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity Thanks!
I absolutely love the Brambilla deck (I have a copy) and couldn't agree more with you about the quality and card stock. What I love the most about it is the color-grading which I think they got right. It is a disappointment that they took them off the website even though they had stock. I would love to have someone take the initiative and (possibly with the help of AI?) create the missing cards ti have a complete deck. It is truly beautiful.
I agree with you 100%. It was so well reproduced but being so incomplete was a big disappointment. What's left of it is beautiful though. ~ Marilyn
Thank your for sharing all these lovely editions.
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching! ~ Marilyn
Great to see you collection. Love the coin also! ❤
Isn't that coin cool?
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity it really is!! ♥️
Thank you for this very informative video! 🙏🏻🙂
I'm glad this video is helpful to you. Thank you for watching and letting me know! ~ Marilyn
Very comprehensive, thank you
You're welcome I'm gratified that you enjoyed this video. Thank you for watching and commenting. ~ Marilyn
Great video! Thank you so very much for sharing and for your time!💐
You're very welcome Reneé. Thank you for appreciating it. I haven't ignored about your last comment regarding the additional person in the Anonymous Tarot of Paris Lover card. I've had company and haven't had a chance to look at it carefully. But I will check this morning and get back to you. I might do a quick video on it after my company leaves later today. Thank you for being here. ~ Marilyn
I just love your channel. Wish i coukd send you some flowers to say thank you.
What a lovely thing to say. Thank you very much. You've just made my day. Happy New Year to you! ~ Marilyn
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity happy new year !
A very nice video, Marilyn. Great idea!
Thank you
Thank you César. I can't believe I hadn't thought of it before.
wonderful! thank you ♥️
You're welcome 😊
The tower and devil card of my vosconti sforza deck look more era appropriate but i like meneghellos recreations more.
Which deck do you have? Most of the creations to supplement the missing cards in these decks are rarely ever great matches.
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity oh I thought I typed it in, mine is the 1995 los scarebeo Visconti Sforza.
@@QuaesitorDeiAhh, I probably didn't catch that. Thanks for clarifying.
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity Please clarify my confusion: is your Il Meneghello Visconti Sforza hand painted? It looks like printers ink…
None of my Il Meneghello decks appear to be hand painted. Not even the best of them. @@seraphinajadeite
I have got the german first published one.
Its from 2022!😢😮
Nice! Who was the publisher? Thank you for commenting!
Thank you for showing these decks. You have an amazing collection.
(edit: I see. My mistake. I have just learned the gold edges were only for Kickstarter promotion so they are now unavailable for purchase)
The Visconti Modrone; I have been looking at shops and I'm unable to find one that confirms the gold edges. I watched another person do a review and their version appeared to have ungilded edges so I'm a bit concerned about buying the wrong one. Is there a particular shop you might direct me to in order to find the exact version you have?
Thank you for your work!
Yes, I was about to respond that it was a kickstarter from a number of years ago, but you might get lucky hunting down a used copy through private channels maybe. Thank you for watching. ~ Marilyn
Only 4 cards are missing from the Visconti-Sforza: the Devil, the Tower, 3 of swords and Knight of coins.
Thank you. I appreciate the information. ~ Marilyn
Hi - Not sure if you'll see this note but here goes: I realized immediately from this video that I am strongly drawn to the Visconti Brambilla Tarot deck by Il Meneghello, for what to me is the beauty in them even though you said it wasn't complete. I though I'd be able to find it for cheap because it's incomplete but the one place I found them in was very expensive. Go figure. I almost bought The Golden Tarot box set and something called Pamela Colman Smith set, but was just very unsure about them so I passed until I can learn more. But again that Brambilla just speaks to me. In any case the thing is I'm new to tarot. So I was wondering what deck would be appropriate for someone who is a newcomer to tarot? Once I get my hands on a deck then hopefully I can begin to learn how to use them. But I feel like I have to have a deck in my hands first. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you for this video!...it was very helpful to see this comparison.
Hello! I have seen your message :) Thank you for writing. Yes, the Brambilla deck is stunning, and very expensive. It is not a practical 1st deck since it only has 2 of the triumph cards. I believe I have over 400 videos, most of them showcasing a variety of different historic decks. I think it comes down to personal taste which decks to use. I am personally attracted to the Italian and Swiss decks most of all. For my students, I usually recommend an inexpensive mass produced deck by lo Scarabeo called, Ancient Italian Tarots. In the event tarot isn't for them, at least they didn't spend too much and they still bought a pretty deck. If you want to splurge for your first deck and you like the Italian decks, I'd recommend Marco Benedetti's decks. But please peruse my many videos, because I'm certain you'll find a few decks that you'll really like.
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity ~THANK YOU!💛 I will look at your other videos and see what other decks I'm drawn to, along with looking at the inexpensive deck you recommend to your students. I'm also going to take a looksy at your website. I'm so excited and full of questions I can burst! Thank you again for your quick response.
@@thepromises2882 You're very welcome. I'm very happy to help. ~ Marilyn
I have a questions to this Tarot: have These cards Numbers, or is there an Order from the first to the Last? If there is one: what is the Card 78?
Originally, the cards were not labeled with numbers or names. Some decks were eventually given name labels and numbers for the trump cards, but they weren't always the same as our modern rankings. Visually, everyone recognized what each card was and the order of their importance, but that order frequently varied by region. Regionally, the card's order varied. In example, different regions in Italy (where the game was invented) ordered the triumph cards differently. Today, we have a standard order for the triumph cards but that was not the case originally. The only triumph card that did not have a rank within the trump order was the Fool card which was a kind of wild card, put in today's words. As for which card was considered the last card in the entire deck, who knows, but I don't think any card was considered the last card of the deck, unless maybe some folks saw the Fool that way. But the Fool had no real numeric assignment. The pip cards were the same for each suit, ace through king. However a household might have ordered their deck determined the last card since one card would always be the last card in a deck, but I think that also varied. I order my cards in this order: triumph cards (in common standard modern order) followed by the suit of Swords, Cups, Batons, and Coins. But that is my own personal preference and the last card of that order would be the King of Coins; but that does not mean the K of C is the least valuable card. It has the same value of any of the kings. I don't believe any pip card was ever considered to be the last in rank or value. I am not sure how these early aristocrats ordered their pip suits, if they ordered them at all. ~ Marilyn
You're very welcome! Ironically, the Sforza deck probably didn't originally have 78 cards, there may have been fewer cards than 78 because they may have had fewer triumph (or trump cards). The triumph cards they had varied from the decks we have today because they might have included other virtues that we no longer include in a deck. They also may have varied the number of court cards. Some Italian decks had as many as 97 cards! (A deck called the Minchiate has 97 whereas a game called tarochino might have had as few as 62.) We may never know how many those original Sforza decks had because none of them were completely intact when found, and interestingly, through the years, as a deck was handed down through the generations, more cards might have been added by the family as the game was standardized throughout Europe (particularly France). But the name Sforza 78 is clearly a reference to a tarot deck because when Sforza decks are recreated today, any missing cards are recreated to create a 78 card deck in keeping with modern times. I hope this made sense. Thank you for sharing your story and the best of luck with your Sforza 78 venture! It's definitely an uncanny coincidence! ~ Marilyn
I've got another set of Visconti deck, came with a magazine. I'm gonna modifiy them to give it genuine antique look. Make it more thicker. The deck I've got is too glossy , thin and doesn't do it justice. Card stock is no good .
Very cool that it came with a magazine!
Different from what i know.
Different pictures and coleur.
That can be, because there isn't merely one, intact VS deck. There are probably about 15 that have been handed down through the VS families. So when a VS deck is printed, publishers will pick and choose from the lot to complete an entire deck. I hope I explained that clearly. Thank you for commenting! ~ Marilyn
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity thankx, greetings.
Greetings :)
Meneghello cards are very poor because they use ordinary ink!!😮 Did you notice it? Details also are very poor. Low definition in my opinion . Look at Dal Negro that is better!🎉
I have heard others also complain about the quality of Il Meneghello decks. Perhaps something changed after the maestro passed away. Thank you for sharing your observations. ~ Marilyn
@zenrazor659 I bought Il Meneghello Visconti Sforza based on RUclips hype and the claim by Il Meneghello of high quality and yet mine looks like ordinary printer’s ink and poor quality compared to even Lo Scarabeo’s much cheaper version which is higher quality compared to Il Meneghello, when comparing cost to value. It’s huge shame and as a customer I totally feel robbed. Il Meneghello has misleading advertising for their Visconti Sforza and they also fail to specify it is second edition. I am curious to know if Il Meneghello Visconti di Modrone and their other decks suffer same poor quality but are overhyped?
Tbh, I'm not sure which version I have, however I do remember feeling surprised and somewhat disappointed when I receivedmine as well. I'm not sure when I bought mine, before or after Maestro died. Especially after comparing it the Brambilla deck, which though incomplete, cost a small fortune but are stunning! I haven't bought too many decks since maestro died. A few maybe. I now focus on cardmakers such as Tarot Sheet Revival, Marco Benedetti, Giordano Berti (though I haven't purchased any of his lately), and Artisan Tarot. I have many Il Meneghello decks but most of them were purchased several years ago. @seraphinajadeite
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity Thank you for sharing your honest experiences. I think this lower quality issue and faded ink and poor resolution of images for the Il Meneghello Sforza is vital information for customers to be made aware of before purchase, simply because their current low standards and low quality doesn't justify their high prices for this deck and their Visconti di Modrone. I just found more people who experience the same issue of lower quality with their Il Meneghello Visconti di Modrone. I won't be purchasing any more Il Meneghello. The disappointment and being mislead by advertising and hence robbed of my hard-earned cash was just unacceptable for me.
@@MarilynFromTarotClarity Hi Marilyn, are there any Visconti decks made by Giordano Berti, or Marco Benedetti, or Tarot Sheet Revival?