Those were the awesome years. Candidates did not have to "prepare". They just went to the pageant being themselves and if the universe loved it, they won. The results were always an awesome surprise. But today, pageants are so predictable and political and unexciting.. Rina was a legend
Overrated, overtrained candidates and thus the pageant becoming predictable and make it look like some sort of championship totally killing the charm of beauty pageants.
Ohhhhhh yes, first, today’s pageant doesn’t have the GLAMOUR that used to have, second, the Misses are soooooooooooooo overtrained that nothing it’s natural, third, everything is predictable. Conclusion: Beauty Pageants are out and people don’t care about it !!!!!!
DeansLester There was once a news article about it in Spanish & I believe she discussed it in her book & one of her interviews in Spain. Amparo resigned just 6 months after being crowned. She threw her crown out of window & the Maria Clara statue given to her by the Philippines. It was rumored that she was disappointed with MU org because the 1975 Miss Universe will be held in El Salvador & was a controversial choice of venue because that time, the President was a dictator. One of his allies, was so mesmerized & really liked Amparo. So this particular person tried to win her over by buying her gifts, jewelries, in exchange of who knows what? Maybe a one-night stand or possibly marriage. Amparo felt she was being taken advantage of & that MU org cannot even protect her from these kinds of people. In the end, she resigned but the pageant was still held in El Salvador. That’s why if you watched the 1975 pageant, Amparo was not there at all.
LOL I always believed that a former Miss Universe would keep her crown and band within a glass box or something, like a precious and old thing in a museum LOL. This lady was like... wtf where did i leave that shit? oh here it is, in a supermarket plastic bag in a random place LOL so funny!
Probably, she isn't a material person. She's down to earth!, unlike other beauty title holders from Latin countries, very proud!, the crown mean so much to them and so i believe their crown will be on display in their homes!
I remember she came to my country Dominican Republic the year after 1977 to give her crown, her entrance to the pageant was spectacular, the event that year received great critics, won an Emmy and was also historical since the first woman of color was crowned.
Em 1977, quando foi passar a coroa estava com um corte de cabelo feio e não estava bonita, título injusto, deveria ser da Escócia, Colômbia, ou Austrália
Loved Rina Messinger of Israel, I'm fr. the Phil., Rina Messinger so cute, esp. during the event of Miss U , year 1976.., and until now I still love her.
The 1976 Miss universe was carried out in Hong Kong. We're so lucky to watch the pageant on TV live from the beginning to the crowning moment. Despite being a tween, I was stunned by Miss Israel's beauty and her character, hoping she would be the winner and she did it indeed. After so many years and thankful to the technology, I'm very glad she's still beautiful and natural, has a supportive husband and succeeded to pursue her dream. I wish her all the best and lead a wonderful life in her hometown!
She's naturally beautiful and still is. Glad she kept her mementos. Despite most Miss Universe titleholders "hating" that chandelier rhinestone crown, at least they get to keep one for themselves. Unlike now that the crown is too expensive, they get to keep it for just a year.
It's her crown, It's her sash, It's her title...Get over it people, she can do whatever she wants. She won it herself, It's not your business to tell her where she needs to put it. She's a remarkable Miss Universe.
She desrved to win because she was very pretty and extremely smart, she gave intelligent answer to the question she was asked. After her reign she lived for 4 years in New York working in public relations for the Jewish Agency and Israel Bonds. Finally she returned to Israel and became a Lawyer, married and had two daughters. today she is a Grandma, wife and worlks as a Attorney. She never was invited again to the Miss Universe pageant until 2021 when the pageant was televised from Eliat, Israel, were she was a preliminar judge……………. Having been the only Miss Israel Miss Universe, she should have been a judge in for the final and not for the preliminary.
Que triste que tan preciado premio ... Lo tenga guardado en un cajón como un chechere viejo, hay miss universos que aprecian su diadema y su banda y lo exaltan como un tesoro preciado siendo mujeres exitosas..... Es el caso de Cecilia bolocco y bárbara palacios.
¿Quien te dijo que Rina no es exitosa? Es abogado y tiene una linda familia. Para ella, haber sido Miss Universe es solo un bello recuerdo y su vida no depende ni está rodeada del hecho de haber sido reina de belleza. No todas se quedan estancadas en su rol de Miss Universo; además, la corona y banda son suyas, las puede guardar donde le plazca, no donde a ti te gustaría que las guardase.
La belleza es efímera y la belleza perfecta no existe, pero se ve demasiada edad para tener por ahí unos 63 o 64 años y se nota que le valió madre ganarse la corona, debió de ganar otra aunque en su momento.. Rina bellísima, aunque he visto a algunas venezolanas y se ven conservadas y bonitas así hayan pasado años
I don't know but I keep on watching the part where she saw herself winning the title..it was such a genuine happiness and humor on her face.. seeing her reaction wayback 1976
I hope to see Rina Messinger in miss Universe 2021, in 1999 I was disappointed not to see Janelle Penny Comminssion MU 1977 in miss universe in Trunudad Tobaco.
yup.. nobody cares about pageants anymore..it’s a disgrace & insult to women.. only poor & 3rd world countries like south americans & philippines care about it
most of the peeps replied in this comment came from countries who claps so hard in pageant scene. westerners doesnt care about pageants? how come theyre the ones who organize the pageant. and if the pageants doesnt matter to your countries then why you guys are still sending your own delegates? #tryagain
Ummm...so the United States is now a third world country? Obviously you have never been to the south. I think the people who thinks pageants are disgrace are either ugly people who the ones that belongs to a country that has never produced a beauty queen. Again ugly people.
It's not (and must not be) really a first world or developing country factor, but it is heavily about culture. For example, LATIN cultures like their pageants because of their everyday value on beauty, but also how they praise their beautiful women or just beautiful women and men anywhere. Another factor is that countries that do not have such forced agressive feminism, enjoy pageants more because they value femininity and praising women's beauty. In countries that push too much feminism, you will see they are taught not to like beauty pagents because they are "sexist" or "outdated". This is actually supressing women's qualities and natural charm. In denial. These countries don't know how to relax. You will also find many countries who are not very loud about their love of beauty pageants, not as loud as a Venezuela etc., but they still like pageants and beauty in general. These countries would be in central and eastern Europe.
Amparo Munoz was worse.. she threw the crown outside her window! Including the good-for-nothing statue made of Philiippine shells. That’s how she resigned only after 6 months of reign.
@@zethlaguitan9366 , I think it was in her autobiography,.,..written in Spanish of course. And little translated tidbits leaked onto the various message boards and fan sites. To this day I am still trying to figure out why she resigned/fired and why the crown didn't go to Miss Finland as Miss Wales already won Miss World and then exposed as a single mother.
She resigned only 6 months after being crowned. Her reign was full of controversy! During the MU1975 pageant in El Salvador, it was rumored that the dictators/politicians of El Salvador was so mesmerized by her beauty & she was offered numerous amounts of jewelries, modeling & acting offers, and cash, in exchange of being married to one of the comrades of the dictator president. Amparo was so mad & disappointed as she felt the organization can’t even protect her from these people & the organization was using her to connive with them. She accussed the organization as corrupt & receiving gifts from the government of El Salvador in exchange of her. During this time, El Salvador was also a very controversial choice for the venue of the pageant being under dictatorship. With her disappointment, she decided to resign. As an expression of her disappointment & hate towards the organization, she threw out her crown & the Maria Clara statue that was given to her by the Philippines out of the window! But many people were also saying Amparo was very difficult to deal with. During the 1974 pageant itself, she was in a relationship with a Spanish guy, and she felt really homesick being away from him & sometimes miss rehearsals & pageant activities. In the Philippines, she was also offered to star in one of the local movies, in which she acted like a total diva & was not in good terms with one of the actresses & director which eventually led to the cancellation of that movie! Aside from that, she also decided she just wanted to puruse an acting career in Spain & she doesn’t want to do anything & be associated with Miss Universe at all. In one of her press interviews in Spain, she described her reign as what she thought was the best moment of her life was in reality the worst experience she ever had. 1974 Miss Universe was very controversial as well and the organization even pretended as if the pageant never happened! The 1st runner up Miss Wales also had her own controversy. She eventually became Miss World in 1974 & was dethroned because it was found out that she’s already a single mother even during Miss Universe. She hid it from the public that’s why she can’t assume the Miss Universe title when Amparo resigned. The 2nd ru, Miss Finland, technically should have been the new successor & this could have been the first back to back victory for Finland. But the organization for some reason, didn’t even consider her. So eventually Kerry Ann Wells (MU1972) was the only available option to crown Miss Universe 1975.
@@AgentAO7 , have to admit that back then, Miss Universe is a little shady behind the scenes...as many contestants often say people sponsoring the pageants and pageant related events made "indecent" proposals and think they are entitled to the contestant's time and attention.
Many Miss Universe winners display their crown and their sash in their homes for all visitors to see, Maritza Sayalero, Miss Universe 1979, has even a huge picture in her living room and her Miss Universe sash is enclosed in glass hanging on the wall. Rina Messinger with her crown stashed away inside a plastic bag... WTF!!??.
Pete Smith She caresses the crown fondly, makes sure it's not tarnished and is out of harms way, and even gets transported to some good memories when watching the video. What else do you want from her? I think she sees being MU as a wonderful experience that changed her life somewhat, but is not about to build a shrine to herself with the crown and sash on display, especially considering her current career as a family lawyer. How banal would it be to still be displaying her past glories as a beauty queen? How many families would trust their precious lives to someone pressing on shallow values? I do wish I knew what she was saying - THAT would really help us determine her POV.
bobbymoya Absolutely disagree. 1.- It is NOT wrong, banal and immature to display past achievements that hard work, sacrifice and preparation helped you arrived to. Have you ever been in a home where you see a trophy or trophies, medals, diplomas?, yes, me too have seen them in MANY homes, it is understandable people would display such things and when asked describe with understable pride how they got them.2.- Past Miss Universe Winners do not HAVE to "build a shrine" to display they crown and their Miss Universe sash, I have seen pictures of homes of past Miss Universe winners including as I mentioned the home of Miss Universe 1979 Maritza Sayalero of Venezuela currently residing in Ensenada, Mexico, and Miss Universe 1991 Lupita Jones of Mexicali, Mexico currently residing in Mexico City, they both have in their living rooms a large studio picture wearing the crown, Maritza Sayalero displays her Miss Universe sash also in her living room in a crystal casing, I am sure other Miss Universe winners do the same, because, winning Miss Universe is not an everyday thing, besides being VERY difficult to win it. 3.- Rinna Messinger displaying her crown and sash would not at all affect the perception people have of her as a lawyer, on the contrary, they would see her in a more positive light as a winner that she is. I am sure MANY Miss Universe winners would take offense to your words of "shallow values" because they do remember all the time, personal sacrifice, preparation and planification it took to participate even without knowing if they would win. That is why I still think it is odd Rina Messinger has those precious mementos stashed away inside a plastic bag inside a drawer like 'that's were you belong'. A safe where people keep valuables like money and jewelry and important documents I would understand, because if a thief gets his hands on that crown and that sash he hands down for sure could get thousands of dollars in the black market for those things, there's people who in a blink of an eye would buy them, but no, no safe, but a plastic bag. You can put it any way you want but Rina Messinger would respect her past as Miss Universe 1976 if she put that crown and that sash in a more fitting scenario to be seen. I bet Miss Australia, Miss Scotland, Miss Wales and Miss Venezuela who made up along Rina Messinger the top five finalist would be shocked to see where Rina Messinger keeps those valuable objects.
Maybe she takes the pageant a little less seriously than you do, and maybe I do as well. Maybe she feels she didn't have to work as hard for that achievement. Maybe you're too young to remember, but participation in the MIss Universe pageant was not as hard work and as huge a preparation a deal back then as it is now. The candidates were elected two months before the pageant and spent two to four weeks in the preliminary stages. Rina was an air force pilot who took a month or so off to enter the pageant (and subsequently had to take a year off once she won). It was different then and I think she keeps that in perspective.
bobbymoya What does it "being different back then" have to do with the point in discussion?, you thinking 'oh it was way back then in 1976, the preparation and sacrifice and planification was not as what it is with today's girls taking part in Miss Universe", well, let me tell you that Maritza Sayalero who KEEPS her Miss Universe crown and sash in a fitting place won her title in 1979, three years after Rina Messinger in 1976, that is not much of a time difference as you can obviously see and still Sayalero's attitude is the proper one. Your statament "It was different then and I think she keeps that in perspective" is obviously not a valid one since even without (according to you) hard work, preparation and sacrifice, Miss Universe 1979 proves you wrong, not me, HER. And also (your statament) "Maybe she takes the pageant a little less seriously than you do", I think it is obvious Rina Messinger does not take it seriously with the whole world watching where that crown is, she takes it a whole lot not seriously. Would she donate that crown and that sash to an institution that could display them for the public to see, I bet they would, something Messinger is obviously not interested in doing. I, as a pageant fan, would definitely stand in line and pay a ticket to view the achievements of a past Miss Universe or Miss USA winner, hands down I would. With the carelessness of which Rina Messinger and you view the caring of valued possessions I feel temped to write to her and flat out ask her to give them to me. Hey, it's worth the try, she might say "Oh go ahead and take that trash out of my sight, good riddance, I need the space in that drawer anyway". Remember the saying: 'One man's trash is another man's treasure".
Nobody's trying to prove or disprove anything here, we're just expressing our opinions in a civil manner. I respect yours; it's different from mine but its valid.We are not discussing cold facts or statistics so there's no need to invalidate other people's opinions. To dismiss someone else's opinion as "not valid" just because you don't agree is to lack any debating skills and common courtesy. When that happens, as far as I'm concerned, the discussion is over. You don't seem to respect alternative POVs.
I just would like to tell Rina that I was very happy with the results that year, She deserved to be miss universe, but It would have looked much better with MISS COLOMBIA AS FIRST RUNNER UP, I think Bob Barker was very bad with some Latinas during the interview, I notice this also in miss universe 1977 pageant
jorge servellon I agree! As much as I love Bob as master of ceremonies, wasn't he AWFUL with delegates whose native language was not English? Many interpreters were awful too until the early 90s. It's interesting to see how politically incorrect the whole non-English-language issue was. It would be unacceptable today.
No es un país con tradición de concursos de bellezas y seguramente al terminar su reinado llego a su país sin ninguna gloria como pasa con los países latinos
Bueno, para que vean. Hay una mentirota rodando por ahí desde hace tiempo. La corona esa no cuesta $250,000.00. Sino que lo mas $250.00, a veces en $150.00 se encuentra.
Someone, please, could translate into English this interview? I'm very curious to know what she's talking about the Crown and of the competition, as she keeps independent, not seemed that she despises what lived as Miss Universe, thanks.
She says when watching the video that she thought she'd be first runner up and that nobody in Israel would know anything. She says about the crown- nobody in her family knows where she keeps it or sees it? She says she won't try it on b.c its not the place she's at in her life. She tells the journalist he can try it on. After some time with the crown out she says enough- its sweet, its amazing, i give it much respect but done lets put it away. They ask her if she's Miss Universe for life and she says not for her but others yes. My translation is bad but its a great piece. She's done a lot with her life and it just isn't that much of a big deal to her 40 years later.
Thank you, thank you so much Matt Cohen, for your kindness in translating, I've always been very curious, but as I don't understand her language, and unfortunately I don't know anyone that could do (despite living in Brazil, where it has a good amount of rich foreigners who live here) Then gave to have a good idea of what she says, it doesn't matter if your translation was not so good, but for me thanks. I found her story so beautiful as Miss Universe and the detachment of the stage now, as read here in general the countries although they face with respect, others already have an attitude as being of a higher importance, and her guard with affection all spent and lives her life the present and future, but a guard at the heart this past important. Once again thank you very much :)
jennifer gray je she’s not speaking Badly about the experience it’s just that she’s been practicing law for so many years it’s not how she defines herself. She said the crown is in the bureau with ALL her prized possessions. I hope people don’t take offense at her. Beauty pageants aren’t very important in Israel and she’s done so much w/her life since 76. She isn’t speaking badly at all.
Yes, I completely understand this situation even not knowing the language her to see that she speaks fondly of those possessions, and how important it was for her. In your translation I could prove that I was right. Unfortunately I read some comment here of people who don't understand and thought that she makes little case of the Crown and of titles. For example some latinas miss who keep these objects in a bubble, with if it was a sanctuary, and I don't think evidence that are more valued as Miss Universe 76. But also read a lovely comment from a person saying that she keeps her Crown and sash with affection as keep old letters that were part of a past beautiful and important. I found beautiful and poetic this comment. And in fact, the greatest value of things are those that keep in the heart and in memory, not having to demonstrate attitudes without importance. thanks :)
I personally think she looks great considering not having much make-up put on. If she is confident with herself or with nothing much to 'hide', what you see is her 'true' beauty.
PIENSO QUE EL MISS UNIVERSO DE VERDAD NO LE IMPORTO PARA NADA LA VIDA LA HIZO CAMBIAR ELLA SABRA PORQUE, ESA EXPERIENCIA AHORA NO LA VE COMO NADA IMPORTANTE. ES SU VIDA HAY QUE RESPETARSELO..
Gerardo Buitrago No estoy de acuerdo. Fíjate como trata la corona con delicadeza, asegurándose que esté pulida (le pasa las manos), y manteniéndola bien envuelta como un bonito recuerdo, tal y como alguien preservaría viejas cartas o poesias de amor. También fíjate como se emociona un tanto al ver los videos viejos. Definitivamente son lindas memorias las que guarda. En su presente carrera (abogada de asuntos de familia), pienso que se vería de mal gusto y pocos valores estar exhibiendo su pasado de triunfos de belleza juvenil (en una época donde el concurso todavía se trataba de belleza física y no logros de relaciones humanas o intelecto) en un cajón de cristal blindado en su sala de recepción. Eso sí, me gustaría saber lo que dijo en el reportaje, eso nos daría una idea de lo que piensa de su pasado.
es impresionante, pareciera que no le importara para nada el haber logrado ese trinufo.Descuidada,Y EN LA FORMAQUE TIENE LA CORONA, LO CONFIRMA... PERO CADAQUIEN SABE LO HACE, DE REPENTE SU CULTURA HEBREA MAS LOSCONFLICTOS DESU PAIS ISRAEL, LA HACE PENSARDE OTRA FORMA.. SEA COMO SEA, FUE PARA ELLA SUPONGO... UNA BELLA EXPERIENCIA
Rina was a great miss universe, no entiendo que dice porque habla en hebreo pero Ella desempeno muy bien ese ano y lo entrego muy bien su corona, cuando ella gano miss universe estaba en el ejercito a segun tengo entendido Ella es ahora una abogada.
Gerardo Buitrago Es abogada de asuntos de familia hoy día. Si tu fueras a visitar a una abogada de esta indole a su casa y vieras una corona y cinta de belleza en una vitrina en su sala, qué pensarías de su empeño como abogada? Creerías que alguien viviendo en el pasado de cuento de hadas te representaría bien?
NO NECESARIAMENTE ES ASI COMO TU DICES.. UNA COSA NO IMPLICA LA OTRA. QUIEN EN ISRAEL NO SABE DE ESE TRIUNFO?.. SI ELLA ES BUENA ABOGADA, LO DEL REINADO NO DIFICULTARIA LO OTRO. FUE UNA EXPERIENCIA BONITA DE SU VIDA Y YA... Y TODO EL MUNDO DEBERIA VERLO ASI. EL QUE LE PREGUNTE: Y ESA CORONA? ELLA RESPONDERIA: - FUI MISS UNIVERSO HACE AÑOS, PERO AHORA TRABAJO COMO ABOGADA NO VEO CUAL ES EL PROBLEMA CON ESO, AL CONTRARIO...
bobbymoya My first reaction was to think: she doesn't care at all! Your comments made me think she might have taken her role very seriously during that year, but that experience is just not as prominent in her current life as it it in other titleholders' life (i.e. Maritza and Lupita). The only thing I don't agree with is your example about a client visiting her home. Many homes are going to display longing and pride about the past (from family heirlooms, to childhood pictures, to athletic competitions trophies). Now, if she opened the door wearing her Miss Universe gown, the crown, and the sash, then that'd be a good sign of craziness :)
Esa señora como que nunca apreció lo que es ser Miss Universo, el ver que tiene la Corona en una bolsa guardada en un escaparate, lo podría considerar una falta de respeto sin duda.
There is no replicas and no diamonds crown whatsoever. That crown value is 250.00. Sometimes is 150.00. It's a huge lie that there is a main crown valued in 250,000.00.
esta señora de verdad nunca debio ganar si ve a miss venezuela la primera finalista de ese año se infarta y eso que judith castillo venezuela no se ha operado nada
Those were the awesome years. Candidates did not have to "prepare". They just went to the pageant being themselves and if the universe loved it, they won. The results were always an awesome surprise. But today, pageants are so predictable and political and unexciting.. Rina was a legend
"Just like the shit 2018 winner !!!" Worst Miss Universe ever since days of Armi Kuusela !!!
@@paolosantiago3163 fuck you losers
Overrated, overtrained candidates and thus the pageant becoming predictable and make it look like some sort of championship totally killing the charm of beauty pageants.
Yeah and always drink Starbucks in her apartment in New York
Ohhhhhh yes, first, today’s pageant doesn’t have the GLAMOUR that used to have, second, the Misses are soooooooooooooo overtrained that nothing it’s natural, third, everything is predictable. Conclusion: Beauty Pageants are out and people don’t care about it !!!!!!
Amparo Munoz threw her crown away like a banana peel. She couldn't care less. Rina cherishes it but does not let it define her.
@Deans Lester i think it was rumored by somebody would tell that.
DeansLester There was once a news article about it in Spanish & I believe she discussed it in her book & one of her interviews in Spain. Amparo resigned just 6 months after being crowned. She threw her crown out of window & the Maria Clara statue given to her by the Philippines. It was rumored that she was disappointed with MU org because the 1975 Miss Universe will be held in El Salvador & was a controversial choice of venue because that time, the President was a dictator. One of his allies, was so mesmerized & really liked Amparo. So this particular person tried to win her over by buying her gifts, jewelries, in exchange of who knows what? Maybe a one-night stand or possibly marriage. Amparo felt she was being taken advantage of & that MU org cannot even protect her from these kinds of people. In the end, she resigned but the pageant was still held in El Salvador. That’s why if you watched the 1975 pageant, Amparo was not there at all.
Por franco ganó.. Amparo Muñoz pero le valió madre porque entregó la corona
Rina's reaction to being named "Miss Universe 1976" was genuinely authentic, sweet and classic. They simply don't make 'em like her anymore.
I love the crown.....and rina is just amazing woman...
I love so much miss universe 1976, She was amazing, it is nice to see her again, She looks very natural as She was when She was crowned.
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she's still beautiful. :) and still she's very happy that she won. :)
QUIEN LO DIRIA. QUE HUMILDAD. EN VERDAD. ME IMPRESIONA SU HUMILDAD
LOL I always believed that a former Miss Universe would keep her crown and band within a glass box or something, like a precious and old thing in a museum LOL. This lady was like... wtf where did i leave that shit? oh here it is, in a supermarket plastic bag in a random place LOL so funny!
lol 😆😅😅😄😂
prove that crown means nothing after your reign is done.
Jaime Acosta Mendive Id assume maybe She was like ehh Been there done that, made some memories but time to move on lol
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Probably, she isn't a material person. She's down to earth!, unlike other beauty title holders from Latin countries, very proud!, the crown mean so much to them and so i believe their crown will be on display in their homes!
QUE MOMENTOS. QUE RECUERDOS. SE VE MUY HUMILFE. SI VALIO LA PENA SU REINADO. SUERTE RINA
I remember she came to my country Dominican Republic the year after 1977 to give her crown, her entrance to the pageant was spectacular, the event that year received great critics, won an Emmy and was also historical since the first woman of color was crowned.
Em 1977, quando foi passar a coroa estava com um corte de cabelo feio e não estava bonita, título injusto, deveria ser da Escócia, Colômbia, ou Austrália
Loved Rina Messinger of Israel, I'm fr. the Phil., Rina Messinger so cute, esp. during the event of Miss U , year 1976.., and until now I still love her.
The 1976 Miss universe was carried out in Hong Kong. We're so lucky to watch the pageant on TV live from the beginning to the crowning moment. Despite being a tween, I was stunned by Miss Israel's beauty and her character, hoping she would be the winner and she did it indeed. After so many years and thankful to the technology, I'm very glad she's still beautiful and natural, has a supportive husband and succeeded to pursue her dream. I wish her all the best and lead a wonderful life in her hometown!
Everything before social media was raw, real and exciting.
She's naturally beautiful and still is. Glad she kept her mementos. Despite most Miss Universe titleholders "hating" that chandelier rhinestone crown, at least they get to keep one for themselves. Unlike now that the crown is too expensive, they get to keep it for just a year.
Don't they get to receive a replica of the crown?
@@PungiFungi I think they receive a replica as long as the reign ends.
It's her crown, It's her sash, It's her title...Get over it people, she can do whatever she wants. She won it herself, It's not your business to tell her where she needs to put it. She's a remarkable Miss Universe.
Naruto Uzumaki I think fans are just suprised shes not about that glitz and glamour life with her crown and sash as other previous winners
Rina, miss universo 1976 belíssima. Título merecido👏👏👏
She desrved to win because she was very pretty and extremely smart, she gave intelligent answer to the question she was asked. After her reign she lived for 4 years in New York working in public relations for the Jewish Agency and Israel Bonds. Finally she returned to Israel and became a Lawyer, married and had two daughters. today she is a Grandma, wife and worlks as a Attorney. She never was invited again to the Miss Universe pageant until 2021 when the pageant was televised from Eliat, Israel, were she was a preliminar judge……………. Having been the only Miss Israel Miss Universe, she should have been a judge in for the final and not for the preliminary.
the crown and the sash age is 39 years,wowww!!!!its unbelieveble!!!
Bellísima Rina Messinger
Que triste que tan preciado premio ... Lo tenga guardado en un cajón como un chechere viejo, hay miss universos que aprecian su diadema y su banda y lo exaltan como un tesoro preciado siendo mujeres exitosas..... Es el caso de Cecilia bolocco y bárbara palacios.
Así es. La vida... La belleza es pasajera
¿Quien te dijo que Rina no es exitosa? Es abogado y tiene una linda familia. Para ella, haber sido Miss Universe es solo un bello recuerdo y su vida no depende ni está rodeada del hecho de haber sido reina de belleza. No todas se quedan estancadas en su rol de Miss Universo; además, la corona y banda son suyas, las puede guardar donde le plazca, no donde a ti te gustaría que las guardase.
La belleza es efímera y la belleza perfecta no existe, pero se ve demasiada edad para tener por ahí unos 63 o 64 años y se nota que le valió madre ganarse la corona, debió de ganar otra aunque en su momento.. Rina bellísima, aunque he visto a algunas venezolanas y se ven conservadas y bonitas así hayan pasado años
Israel, her country is the host country of Miss Universe 2021
I don't know but I keep on watching the part where she saw herself winning the title..it was such a genuine happiness and humor on her face.. seeing her reaction wayback 1976
It's true. She has the same reaction!
Before when you won at MU, they provide the winner to have a replica of the crown with the sash!😉😘♥️❤
I hope to see Rina Messinger in miss Universe 2021, in 1999 I was disappointed not to see Janelle Penny Comminssion MU 1977 in miss universe in Trunudad Tobaco.
Esta deveria ser a coroa de Miss Universo até hoje!! Uma pena der mudado de patrocinadores a partir de 2002.
Se ve que no es latina que tienen sus coronas, bandas en vitrinas como un museo en su casa.
Sim, essa coroa era lindíssima, nunca deveriam ter trocado
I think the government doesn't care about her winning. In the Philippines, we take pageants very seriously just like in the Olympics
Nowdays 1st Worlders never care of beauty pageant!
your country is so abnormal and Old-fashioned
3rd Worlde'rs' illness is beauty pageant
yup.. nobody cares about pageants anymore..it’s a disgrace & insult to women.. only poor & 3rd world countries like south americans & philippines care about it
most of the peeps replied in this comment came from countries who claps so hard in pageant scene. westerners doesnt care about pageants? how come theyre the ones who organize the pageant. and if the pageants doesnt matter to your countries then why you guys are still sending your own delegates? #tryagain
Ummm...so the United States is now a third world country? Obviously you have never been to the south. I think the people who thinks pageants are disgrace are either ugly people who the ones that belongs to a country that has never produced a beauty queen. Again ugly people.
It's not (and must not be) really a first world or developing country factor, but it is heavily about culture. For example, LATIN cultures like their pageants because of their everyday value on beauty, but also how they praise their beautiful women or just beautiful women and men anywhere. Another factor is that countries that do not have such forced agressive feminism, enjoy pageants more because they value femininity and praising women's beauty. In countries that push too much feminism, you will see they are taught not to like beauty pagents because they are "sexist" or "outdated". This is actually supressing women's qualities and natural charm. In denial. These countries don't know how to relax. You will also find many countries who are not very loud about their love of beauty pageants, not as loud as a Venezuela etc., but they still like pageants and beauty in general. These countries would be in central and eastern Europe.
Are you ready for Miss Universe 2021?😊 can't wait to see you Rina love from Thailand!😉
She is going to be a Judge at the Preliminary competition
Nicaragua 2023
Muy bella
I hope she will be a guest at Miss Universe 2021.
Agree.
Amparo Munoz was worse.. she threw the crown outside her window! Including the good-for-nothing statue made of Philiippine shells. That’s how she resigned only after 6 months of reign.
Where did you get that? Maybe that is a fake article/news.
@@zethlaguitan9366 , I think it was in her autobiography,.,..written in Spanish of course. And little translated tidbits leaked onto the various message boards and fan sites. To this day I am still trying to figure out why she resigned/fired and why the crown didn't go to Miss Finland as Miss Wales already won Miss World and then exposed as a single mother.
@@PungiFungi Amparo resigned to continue her acting career. None of her runners up took her place.
She resigned only 6 months after being crowned. Her reign was full of controversy! During the MU1975 pageant in El Salvador, it was rumored that the dictators/politicians of El Salvador was so mesmerized by her beauty & she was offered numerous amounts of jewelries, modeling & acting offers, and cash, in exchange of being married to one of the comrades of the dictator president. Amparo was so mad & disappointed as she felt the organization can’t even protect her from these people & the organization was using her to connive with them. She accussed the organization as corrupt & receiving gifts from the government of El Salvador in exchange of her. During this time, El Salvador was also a very controversial choice for the venue of the pageant being under dictatorship. With her disappointment, she decided to resign. As an expression of her disappointment & hate towards the organization, she threw out her crown & the Maria Clara statue that was given to her by the Philippines out of the window! But many people were also saying Amparo was very difficult to deal with. During the 1974 pageant itself, she was in a relationship with a Spanish guy, and she felt really homesick being away from him & sometimes miss rehearsals & pageant activities. In the Philippines, she was also offered to star in one of the local movies, in which she acted like a total diva & was not in good terms with one of the actresses & director which eventually led to the cancellation of that movie! Aside from that, she also decided she just wanted to puruse an acting career in Spain & she doesn’t want to do anything & be associated with Miss Universe at all. In one of her press interviews in Spain, she described her reign as what she thought was the best moment of her life was in reality the worst experience she ever had. 1974 Miss Universe was very controversial as well and the organization even pretended as if the pageant never happened! The 1st runner up Miss Wales also had her own controversy. She eventually became Miss World in 1974 & was dethroned because it was found out that she’s already a single mother even during Miss Universe. She hid it from the public that’s why she can’t assume the Miss Universe title when Amparo resigned. The 2nd ru, Miss Finland, technically should have been the new successor & this could have been the first back to back victory for Finland. But the organization for some reason, didn’t even consider her. So eventually Kerry Ann Wells (MU1972) was the only available option to crown Miss Universe 1975.
@@AgentAO7 , have to admit that back then, Miss Universe is a little shady behind the scenes...as many contestants often say people sponsoring the pageants and pageant related events made "indecent" proposals and think they are entitled to the contestant's time and attention.
She is a great woman,
Wow
La primera Miss universo que veo Que vive Humildemente
WOW
No vive humildemente, vive en una casa que se esta construyendo. Es una conocida abogada penalista y lo mismo su marido.
Many Miss Universe winners display their crown and their sash in their homes for all visitors to see, Maritza Sayalero, Miss Universe 1979, has even a huge picture in her living room and her Miss Universe sash is enclosed in glass hanging on the wall. Rina Messinger with her crown stashed away inside a plastic bag... WTF!!??.
Pete Smith She caresses the crown fondly, makes sure it's not tarnished and is out of harms way, and even gets transported to some good memories when watching the video. What else do you want from her? I think she sees being MU as a wonderful experience that changed her life somewhat, but is not about to build a shrine to herself with the crown and sash on display, especially considering her current career as a family lawyer. How banal would it be to still be displaying her past glories as a beauty queen? How many families would trust their precious lives to someone pressing on shallow values? I do wish I knew what she was saying - THAT would really help us determine her POV.
bobbymoya Absolutely disagree. 1.- It is NOT wrong, banal and immature to display past achievements that hard work, sacrifice and preparation helped you arrived to. Have you ever been in a home where you see a trophy or trophies, medals, diplomas?, yes, me too have seen them in MANY homes, it is understandable people would display such things and when asked describe with understable pride how they got them.2.- Past Miss Universe Winners do not HAVE to "build a shrine" to display they crown and their Miss Universe sash, I have seen pictures of homes of past Miss Universe winners including as I mentioned the home of Miss Universe 1979 Maritza Sayalero of Venezuela currently residing in Ensenada, Mexico, and Miss Universe 1991 Lupita Jones of Mexicali, Mexico currently residing in Mexico City, they both have in their living rooms a large studio picture wearing the crown, Maritza Sayalero displays her Miss Universe sash also in her living room in a crystal casing, I am sure other Miss Universe winners do the same, because, winning Miss Universe is not an everyday thing, besides being VERY difficult to win it.
3.- Rinna Messinger displaying her crown and sash would not at all affect the perception people have of her as a lawyer, on the contrary, they would see her in a more positive light as a winner that she is.
I am sure MANY Miss Universe winners would take offense to your words of "shallow values" because they do remember all the time, personal sacrifice, preparation and planification it took to participate even without knowing if they would win. That is why I still think it is odd Rina Messinger has those precious mementos stashed away inside a plastic bag inside a drawer like 'that's were you belong'. A safe where people keep valuables like money and jewelry and important documents I would understand, because if a thief gets his hands on that crown and that sash he hands down for sure could get thousands of dollars in the black market for those things, there's people who in a blink of an eye would buy them, but no, no safe, but a plastic bag. You can put it any way you want but Rina Messinger would respect her past as Miss Universe 1976 if she put that crown and that sash in a more fitting scenario to be seen. I bet Miss Australia, Miss Scotland, Miss Wales and Miss Venezuela who made up along Rina Messinger the top five finalist would be shocked to see where Rina Messinger keeps those valuable objects.
Maybe she takes the pageant a little less seriously than you do, and maybe I do as well. Maybe she feels she didn't have to work as hard for that achievement. Maybe you're too young to remember, but participation in the MIss Universe pageant was not as hard work and as huge a preparation a deal back then as it is now. The candidates were elected two months before the pageant and spent two to four weeks in the preliminary stages. Rina was an air force pilot who took a month or so off to enter the pageant (and subsequently had to take a year off once she won). It was different then and I think she keeps that in perspective.
bobbymoya What does it "being different back then" have to do with the point in discussion?, you thinking 'oh it was way back then in 1976, the preparation and sacrifice and planification was not as what it is with today's girls taking part in Miss Universe", well, let me tell you that Maritza Sayalero who KEEPS her Miss Universe crown and sash in a fitting place won her title in 1979, three years after Rina Messinger in 1976, that is not much of a time difference as you can obviously see and still Sayalero's attitude is the proper one. Your statament "It was different then and I think she keeps that in perspective" is obviously not a valid one since even without (according to you) hard work, preparation and sacrifice, Miss Universe 1979 proves you wrong, not me, HER.
And also (your statament) "Maybe she takes the pageant a little less seriously than you do", I think it is obvious Rina Messinger does not take it seriously with the whole world watching where that crown is, she takes it a whole lot not seriously. Would she donate that crown and that sash to an institution that could display them for the public to see, I bet they would, something Messinger is obviously not interested in doing. I, as a pageant fan, would definitely stand in line and pay a ticket to view the achievements of a past Miss Universe or Miss USA winner, hands down I would. With the carelessness of which Rina Messinger and you view the caring of valued possessions I feel temped to write to her and flat out ask her to give them to me. Hey, it's worth the try, she might say "Oh go ahead and take that trash out of my sight, good riddance, I need the space in that drawer anyway".
Remember the saying: 'One man's trash is another man's treasure".
Nobody's trying to prove or disprove anything here, we're just expressing our opinions in a civil manner. I respect yours; it's different from mine but its valid.We are not discussing cold facts or statistics so there's no need to invalidate other people's opinions. To dismiss someone else's opinion as "not valid" just because you don't agree is to lack any debating skills and common
courtesy. When that happens, as far as I'm concerned, the discussion is over. You don't seem to respect alternative POVs.
I like her vibe 😳
I just would like to tell Rina that I was very happy with the results that year, She deserved to be miss universe, but It would have looked much better with MISS COLOMBIA AS FIRST RUNNER UP, I think Bob Barker was very bad with some Latinas during the interview, I notice this also in miss universe 1977 pageant
jorge servellon I agree! As much as I love Bob as master of ceremonies, wasn't he AWFUL with delegates whose native language was not English? Many interpreters were awful too until the early 90s. It's interesting to see how politically incorrect the whole non-English-language issue was. It would be unacceptable today.
I actually cringe when I see how he treated some of the contestants over the years...
If my mom was a miss universe she will put it in a glass box with the sash.
SE VE QUE PARA ELLA HABER SIDO MISS UNIVERSE...NO SIGNIFICÓ NADA.
No es un país con tradición de concursos de bellezas y seguramente al terminar su reinado llego a su país sin ninguna gloria como pasa con los países latinos
Unforgettable memory.......
Love to watch...
Que lastima ..deberia a coroa estar em um lugar em destaque !! La banda tambien
I thought that crown real full of diamonds..... 😂
It's only a rhinestones.
Bueno, para que vean. Hay una mentirota rodando por ahí desde hace tiempo. La corona esa no cuesta $250,000.00. Sino que lo mas $250.00, a veces en $150.00 se encuentra.
Ella como las 3 Miss Mundo Israelitas son muy queridas en su pais y en el mundo por romper ese regimen malo que tenia de Israel :l
solo hay una miss mundo de Israel, no son tres, 1998 , y una miss universe, 1976
She should have put her crown on the safety deposit box
Someone, please, could translate into English this interview? I'm very curious to know what she's talking about the Crown and of the competition, as she keeps independent, not seemed that she despises what lived as Miss Universe, thanks.
She says when watching the video that she thought she'd be first runner up and that nobody in Israel would know anything. She says about the crown- nobody in her family knows where she keeps it or sees it? She says she won't try it on b.c its not the place she's at in her life. She tells the journalist he can try it on. After some time with the crown out she says enough- its sweet, its amazing, i give it much respect but done lets put it away. They ask her if she's Miss Universe for life and she says not for her but others yes. My translation is bad but its a great piece. She's done a lot with her life and it just isn't that much of a big deal to her 40 years later.
Thank you, thank you so much Matt Cohen, for your kindness in translating, I've always been very curious, but as I don't understand her language, and unfortunately I don't know anyone that could do (despite living in Brazil, where it has a good amount of rich foreigners who live here) Then gave to have a good idea of what she says, it doesn't matter if your translation was not so good, but for me thanks. I found her story so beautiful as Miss Universe and the detachment of the stage now, as read here in general the countries although they face with respect, others already have an attitude as being of a higher importance, and her guard with affection all spent and lives her life the present and future, but a guard at the heart this past important. Once again thank you very much :)
jennifer gray je she’s not speaking
Badly about the experience it’s just that she’s been practicing law for so many years it’s not how she defines herself. She said the crown is in the bureau with ALL her prized possessions. I hope people don’t take offense at her. Beauty pageants aren’t very important in Israel and she’s done so much w/her life since 76. She isn’t speaking badly at all.
Yes, I completely understand this situation even not knowing the language her to see that she speaks fondly of those possessions, and how important it was for her. In your translation I could prove that I was right. Unfortunately I read some comment here of people who don't understand and thought that she makes little case of the Crown and of titles. For example some latinas miss who keep these objects in a bubble, with if it was a sanctuary, and I don't think evidence that are more valued as Miss Universe 76. But also read a lovely comment from a person saying that she keeps her Crown and sash with affection as keep old letters that were part of a past beautiful and important. I found beautiful and poetic this comment. And in fact, the greatest value of things are those that keep in the heart and in memory, not having to demonstrate attitudes without importance. thanks :)
I think she went through lots of challenges in life thats why she doesnt even want to reminisce
Whoa! She looks like she's lived a hard life, and needs a makeover desperately. :-(
I personally think she looks great considering not having much make-up put on. If she is confident with herself or with nothing much to 'hide', what you see is her 'true' beauty.
Waistline still small!
I think she looks naturally beautiful
Hard life? She actually lived in the US & became an ambassador for the Jews who were displaced in the US for quite some time there..
She should have put her crown on the Safe deposit box instead of Bookcase after her reign was over.
Jacó das misses lindissima
Today Miss Venezuela looks much prettier
So🤷♀️
She had a hard time as Miss Venezuela.
The way she keep her crown it looks like fake crown made with plastic are those fake diamonds on that crown 👀
Rhinestones
PIENSO QUE EL MISS UNIVERSO DE VERDAD NO LE IMPORTO PARA NADA LA VIDA LA
HIZO CAMBIAR ELLA SABRA PORQUE, ESA EXPERIENCIA AHORA NO LA VE COMO NADA IMPORTANTE. ES SU VIDA HAY QUE RESPETARSELO..
Gerardo Buitrago No estoy de acuerdo. Fíjate como trata la corona con delicadeza, asegurándose que esté pulida (le pasa las manos), y manteniéndola bien envuelta como un bonito recuerdo, tal y como alguien preservaría viejas cartas o poesias de amor. También fíjate como se emociona un tanto al ver los videos viejos. Definitivamente son lindas memorias las que guarda. En su presente carrera (abogada de asuntos de familia), pienso que se vería de mal gusto y pocos valores estar exhibiendo su pasado de triunfos de belleza juvenil (en una época donde el concurso todavía se trataba de belleza física y no logros de relaciones humanas o intelecto) en un cajón de cristal blindado en su sala de recepción. Eso sí, me gustaría saber lo que dijo en el reportaje, eso nos daría una idea de lo que piensa de su pasado.
Gerardo Buitrago
The crown goes fatted and not good quality for 39 years ago.
es impresionante, pareciera que no le importara para nada el haber logrado ese trinufo.Descuidada,Y EN LA FORMAQUE TIENE LA CORONA, LO CONFIRMA... PERO CADAQUIEN SABE LO HACE, DE REPENTE SU CULTURA HEBREA MAS LOSCONFLICTOS DESU PAIS ISRAEL, LA HACE PENSARDE OTRA FORMA.. SEA COMO SEA, FUE PARA ELLA SUPONGO... UNA BELLA EXPERIENCIA
Rina was a great miss universe, no entiendo que dice porque habla en hebreo pero Ella desempeno muy bien ese ano y lo entrego muy bien su corona, cuando ella gano miss universe estaba en el ejercito a segun tengo entendido Ella es ahora una abogada.
Gerardo Buitrago Es abogada de asuntos de familia hoy día. Si tu fueras a visitar a una abogada de esta indole a su casa y vieras una corona y cinta de belleza en una vitrina en su sala, qué pensarías de su empeño como abogada? Creerías que alguien viviendo en el pasado de cuento de hadas te representaría bien?
NO NECESARIAMENTE ES ASI COMO TU DICES.. UNA COSA NO IMPLICA LA OTRA. QUIEN EN ISRAEL NO SABE DE ESE TRIUNFO?.. SI ELLA ES BUENA ABOGADA, LO DEL REINADO NO DIFICULTARIA LO OTRO. FUE UNA EXPERIENCIA BONITA DE SU VIDA Y YA... Y TODO EL MUNDO DEBERIA VERLO ASI. EL QUE LE PREGUNTE: Y ESA CORONA? ELLA RESPONDERIA: - FUI MISS UNIVERSO HACE AÑOS, PERO AHORA TRABAJO COMO ABOGADA NO VEO CUAL ES EL PROBLEMA CON ESO, AL CONTRARIO...
una gran miss Universo
bobbymoya My first reaction was to think: she doesn't care at all! Your comments made me think she might have taken her role very seriously during that year, but that experience is just not as prominent in her current life as it it in other titleholders' life (i.e. Maritza and Lupita).
The only thing I don't agree with is your example about a client visiting her home. Many homes are going to display longing and pride about the past (from family heirlooms, to childhood pictures, to athletic competitions trophies). Now, if she opened the door wearing her Miss Universe gown, the crown, and the sash, then that'd be a good sign of craziness :)
רינה מור גאווה ישראלית
ESO ES ISRAEL. TODOS IGUALES
The crown was just in a plastic bag ????
Esa señora como que nunca apreció lo que es ser Miss Universo, el ver que tiene la Corona en una bolsa guardada en un escaparate, lo podría considerar una falta de respeto sin duda.
Wow!...
Beautiful 🇮🇱💓💓💓💓👌👌
Hi Rina! Did you boyfriend split up with you after you won Miss Universe? Wishing you no luck brought you luck 😘
Rio de Janeiro, BraSIL SIL SIL
Wow
2021s
A mais bonita era a miss Escócia, não fez jus ao título
Acho que a vitória de miss Israel foi merecida.
is it a duplicate crown?
Yes a replica
No, its her real crown.
There is no replicas and no diamonds crown whatsoever. That crown value is 250.00. Sometimes is 150.00. It's a huge lie that there is a main crown valued in 250,000.00.
Is she speaking Arabic?
No...she's speaking Hebrew. Both languages are related (Semitic branch) so that's why it may sound like Arabic to you.
@@rkyrkrdo thanks sa info..nawala pagkalito ko
Wow bajunya masih disimpan haha
Mahkota nya masih di simpan. Tapi byk netizen yg nganggap penyimpanan nya kurang Etis dan mikir dia tidak mengakui kemenangannya.
Esta muy acabada para su edad,
At the lowest level of a cupboard lol ...
Not the prettiest miss 👑🇮🇱 .
She was gorgeous when she won, but at 58 years old, she does not look good.
Kept it in a garbage bag. Give it to Goodwill
Que descuidada y desarreglada. Una miss universo venezolana jamás la verás en ese estado de descuido absoluto.
Deplorable.
esta señora de verdad nunca debio ganar si ve a miss venezuela la primera finalista de ese año se infarta y eso que judith castillo venezuela no se ha operado nada