I admire Ruth, her husband and daughter for sitting through all this, trial, after trial after trial and even in the discussions on the final jury instructions and trial charges. My heart breaks for them but in the same breath I am happy that each one of the accused are being brought to justice, may no stone be left unturned and may each and EVERY one of the Adelsons be held accountable.
Katie's text to Charlie telling him to go on with his life like he already did, tells me all I need to know that he's GUILTY...Why would an extortionist cut ties with someone she's extorting payments from ?? Hmmm🤔
I read that the son Robert left because he couldn’t take his controlling parents. He wanted to marry a woman that they disapproved of. So he married the woman his parents wanted. They eventually divorced and he married the first woman that he always wanted to marry. Sorry I don’t know where I read that so take it for what it’s worth.
What I can't get past is that the hitmen took a payment plan. Amongst many other things in Charlie's story - that part doesn't make sense. I hope the jury sees through this!
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
The state did not disappoint!!! I love the frustration in her face which shows what the rest of us are feeling while listening to Charlie's ridiculous lies!!!
I agree..there are some cases where the defense is just ridiculously laughable and the attempts to explain away the evidence is just mind blowing!! Lol lies and stories that only a 5 year old would believe. 95% of his defense follows absolutely NO logic whatsoever.
Girl. What???? Did you listen to all of Charlie’s testimony?! He ISN’T A SNITCH, SO NOW HE’S A LIAR?! This ish is SAD that there are people like you. The police literally called, STALKED, HARASSED, TRAUMATIZED, his SWEET AS PIE MOM
@@tommybrown9534I PRAY NEITHER OF YOU EVVERRRR GET ON A JURY!!! YOU DITSY’S would let a murderer literally walk FREE, over someone that didn’t SNITCH to save his family.
@@jadevernon8903 ummmm..did YOU listen to it?! From the moment his "extortion" began..."Because of u, my brother in law was just murdered, my safe is now empty, my life is in danger (along with my family's lives), and i gotta pay $3000 a month (which apparently doesn't go towards my balance)...u just single handedly destroyed my life!! Wanna spend the night??" Lol come on now. 🤔🤔🤔
@@jadevernon8903Diabolical Donna Adelson has entered the comment section. 👋🏽 Whoops! Bet your heart pounds every time there’s an unexpected visitor at your door.. Which by the way is well deserved. Hilarious how Dr. Dentist made up a ridiculously incredible story to try to fit the facts of the case. I’m glad he took the stand & sealed his fate. Imagine The Latin Kings making a layaway plan for a murder for hire 🤣
Charlie said Katie went outside and made a phone call to her "friend"! Patrick Sandford said Katie's phone was turned off for 11 hours! So what phone did she call on?
He said the word extortion hundreds of times in his testimony but somehow not once did he say it on a recorded phone call. Not even with KM. Lies lies lies
That Dolce Vita tape and Jeffrey Lacasse testimony really gets him. They used the word extortion 123 times but he doesn’t mention it once in all of these tapes?
Why would the Latin Kings need to drive all the way to Tallahassee and kill someone they don’t even know when they could just rob or extort Charlie without doing a murder?
@@dylanaames250theyre gang member criminals , you think they’re completely rationale ? They could have believed the killing would have put tremendous leverage and fear in the extortion victim, cartels do it all the time to send a message , like they’re willing to kill and you’re next. They knew Markel had no money as a state college professor, he was expendable, it was the Adelsons who were driving Benz throwing around talk about million dollars
So true he thought he had all his bases covered like in an exam setting but none of it made any sense. The best part is a woman has your money for some supposed extortion and you allow her to take a pill and sleep at your residence the night. Totally laughable.
To believe his asinine story, you'd have to believe that he was naive and gullible enough to believe that a woman with absolutely no connection to him (after their breakup) and no incentive to "protect" him, with 2 small children, would willingly act as go-between for him and a murderous gang while getting nothing in return ("she was broke").
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Charlie said on the recordings he has no idea who tuto was - he said it many times yet he did know. Why would he be scared to admit who he was if he was being extorted by him? It makes no sense and to me shows he was trying to distance himself and hid his connection because of the murder. It’s simple but screams guilt
@@calmingwavesxeasy explanation, he literally has no choice now🤷♀️ he already testified that it makes him nervous even now if he gets out because of him coming out now
@@calmingwavesx Because it wasnt a gang member extorting him. it was KATIIEEEE! Sigfredo probably didnt even know she was doing it! She took advantage of this dope and was able to get $3,000 a month for 10 YEARS! i dont understand how people cant comprehend this.
The key word is REASONABLE. “REASONABLE DOUBT”. There is nothing “reasonable” about the defense theory. The defense theory is in fact UNREASONABLE- so he should be found guilty of solicitation to commit first degree murder is how I would vote if I were a juror.
He can't say how his sister feels about him nor details of her personal life, but, he knows she went by the crime scene only to buy " bullet bourbon". Doesn't make any sense.
Oh absolutely. Without a doubt. He is super overprivileged, and beyond all else ARROGANT beyond belief. Utterly convinced that jail is for poor people. Not special flowers like the Adelsons.
Georgia’s face at 1:39:48. 🤣 she must have had kids like mine where at 3-4 years old they will repeat everything they hear and have memory of two weeks ago when you said they could have a cookie 🤣
You guys don't realize but him being this arrogant is a blessing for the prosecutors because the jurors are probably trying to keep themselves from vomiting That's how openly arrogant he is it's really a blessing for the prosecutors
Id love to hear from someone in the gallery on how the jury seems to react to him. In the JD and AH trial reporters gave really good insight to the expressions and reactions of the jury.
I have been watching another channel and it's been reported that there is one juror who has nodded in Charlie's favor until ...today when they had a disturbed look about Charlie. That's the only juror there was a red on as far as the Lawyer/reporters there from the STS channel. @@andsuddenly4252
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
Wow, he didn't even know the charges he was facing. Lol he assumed that he was alleged to have done the murder with his sister and parents yet the affidavit was referring to the three already in jail for Dan's murder. Why would his subconscious think that? Also it's genius to plant the seed in Charlie's head about Wendy and if his sister "appreciated" what he did for her and to make him realise that he was a) not the favoured child between the two b) quickly named by Wendy as a possible suspect and c) just the fall guy for his sister and mother's ulterior motives. This is one sick family.
Why was Charlie so generous to Sigmundo (to the tune of $100k), but so stingy with the Bump "extortionists? Answer: Because the Bump man wanted something for nothing, while Sigmundo was at least "providing a service" for his big payouts.
Charlie Charlie Charlie you talked yourself into a conviction. His convoluted answers are not going to go over well with the jury. His story makes ZERO sense. There are so many points it would take too long to list here. Charlie taking the stand was not a good idea.
His story was so freaking *CONVULUTED* you couldn't even make sense of what he was saying. He *DEFINITELY* spent his days and nights in jail memorizing and rehearsing that. You needed a play by play explanation/clarification for EVERYTHING he said cause it didn't make sense and you couldn't follow based on all the timeline
He is correcting her it is so arrogant. On the witness stand. State asks a question and he doesn’t answer but makes accusations towards her. It’s crazy. The judge admonished her. Yes shouldn’t talk over each other, but he goes on a narrative.
One extortion is utterly ridiculous.. Two is utter insanity. It is frustrating as we all know what happened, he is just a slimey snake avoiding capture..
Omg it’s painful beyond belief watching this Charlie ! An utter disgrace along with the rest of his so called family !!! EXCELLENT WORK GEORGIA THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS HES GUILTY !!!!
It wasn’t clear to me and, like the jurors, I don’t know the history of this case. I thought the prosecutor was snarky during cross-I would have preferred professional and not so many snide comments.
@@triplesss7229I believe her comments came over as snide out of frustration. He was deliberately obtuse failing to answer her questions directly. He was overly arrogant and condescending, u der the circumstances Georgia was very restrained.
I am so disappointed in the cross examination. I think her sarcasm is falling flat. She's not hammering him. Although i think he's guilty, he made a decent witness. I hope her poor cross doesn't hurt their chances at a conviction. To me, he came off arrogant but likable.
she hammering him, she’s pointing out how he himself sounds, she doing a great cross examination because she’s tripping him up, there’s nothing likable about him
Wow the way he’s speaking to the prosecuting attorney. Condescending !!! I can’t stand his voice anymore…., he sure, loves talking and listening to himself.
His excuse is SO terrible and makes absolutely zero sense. No extortionists take a payment plan or checks! They are not a "buisness" 20 years ago. Common sense. Duh!
Charlie was happy to buy little gifts all the time for Katie since he thought that that would convince a juror some day that he thought she was a poor struggling mother and he could say that he thought all the money was being transferred straight to the "extortionist". But the problem is, he is so adamant that Katie and Sigmundo must call the Bump number on his and Donna's behalf, and they are obviously Charlie's underlings taking his orders. The only reason Charlie and Donna called in the end is because the police knew not to pick up when a call came from Katie or from Sigmundo, so they couldn't get through to the bump-men, and finally Charlie and Donna had to call themselves.
He’s good at swerving the questions, I was expecting the prosecutor to be more insistent in getting answers to the questions she’s asking rather than him answering the questions he prefers to hear
I don't think the prosecutor did a good job in intimidating him. He was able to answer and explain (whether you like the answers or not), while the Prosecuter didn't hold him to anything. She just asked and listened and moved on.
It was similar with her cross of Katie during her first trial.. maybe that’s just her style. She trips him up quite a bit on many points in evidence, but it’s subtle and then she just moves on. Would be more effective if she pushed him more during those points or emphasized the absurdity of his answers more.
Dr Untouchable and Wendi have the gift of lying and quick on their feet! No wonder he took the stand! The wire recordings are really good support for the prosecutors theory. However his explanations just don’t make sense.
Law enforcement is picking them off one at a time. Mom needs to go next, then Wendi. I’m on the fence about Dad still. I Need to hear ALL of the wires to know what Dads part was.
It would make far more sense to say 'They tried to extort me, but I didn't pay. So they tried to kill my sister, but killed the husband because the opportunity arose. So then I started paying and was terrified."
@@sillyybaee4153Donna wanted Rob to date Jewish, basically forced him to break up with his Indian girlfriend. He did find a Jewish woman to marry but I believe the marriage was annulled and he went back to his girlfriend. They’re married now with kids and they’re both doctors.
Even if he didn’t know at the that she was extorting him, she would know it - those messages are not consistent with an extortionist regardless of whether he knew or not! He is terrible on the stand and the prosecutor isn’t addressing it in a clear way for the jury - I hope the jury get this right - the recordings are enough without the direct and cross at all.
But Charlie did supposedly know that Sigmund and Louis were "using a naive, helpless Katy as a gopher to extort him". Yet on the recordings Charlie never uses the word "extortion" in reference to the earlier Markel murder extortion", an "extortion" that cost him a couple hundred thousand. He only uses that word in reference to the Latin Kings maybe trying to extort him "for the second extortion" for only $5k. Then after he is in jail, he talks about extortion all the time. And then suddenly 130 times he utters that word "extortion" in regards to Sigmundo in the couple hours of testimony, but only cuz he got caught and arrested for hiring the hit men.
I love how Charlie kept saying he didn’t know Katie was the extorted at the time. I was like you dumb$ss, it doesn’t matter if YOU knew, you are claiming she WAS the extorted. It didn’t matter if he knew it or not at the time because their communication was not that of someone being extorted. His whole testimony was such nonsense.
Or maybe Katy manipulated him into thinking he was on a "payment plan". Have we ever considered that maybe she's behind it and the extortion didn't exist and Charlie has deep rooted codependency issues?
Yes, I believe that she could have set him up. Definitely she's not a great person Admitted to lying on all her testimony and convicted of getting her children's father to murder someone. Extorting Charlie seems like something she would do. Probably seemed like easy money to her.
This case gets sadder and sadder. Such a waste of life. First and foremost, Dan's death and then, a seemingly normal, intelligent man, on trial for murder after associating himself with a scum woman, with violent associates. How does something like this occur? Narcissism? What could possibly make a grandmother and a Dr son, even fathom such a crime? We'll never know that.
The grandmother wanted her babies close. And she got exactly what she wanted. The most disgusting thing about this is that she got to watch those little boys grow up and to interact with them all the time.
@@genevievegreene1595Bingo. Both her and Wendy are guilty. I hope those boys figure out what really happened, that their dear old grandmother and mom were the driving force behind the execution of their father.
TOTAL CONTROL of the KIDS! Lately, such idiots are choosing murder over divorce! (Chris Watts, Scott and Drew Peterson come to mind). What a sickening society!
The rule is that the woman is always the brains and the man is always the muscle, no doubt he wouldnt have done this without his mom and sister egging him on passively. It's like how my own mother would bother my dad until he actually caves.
He’s far from normal, he may be wealthy and a professional but nothing about Charlie is normal. You must not have known many professional people in your life, they’re just as scummy (oftentimes more so) than poor people. How do you think people acquire wealth?
Or... perhaps Katie is a "perfect example of a malignant narcissist master of the dark triad" and charlie OR Sigfredo don't have the experience you seem to have in detecting narcissistic traits and they were, i dont know, manipulated???
Did anyone think game over when he boldly said I'll pay if someone comes for my family. Did he really say that? So he expects the jury to believe he didn't do it to begin with. And to believe he got "extorted " that if he's out that is rational belief to live. Astonishing! I just can't 😮
Charlie's REAL attitude to an 'extortionist' is on Dolce Vita tape TO KATIE at 2:35 "If someone comes up to me they'd better be ready to shoot, cause I'm gonna shoot them. SOMEONE COMES UP TO ME ASKING FOR MONEY IN MY HOUSE?" - but Katie stayed the night when she took $138,000 from Charlie.
Good point. And when the Bump-man asks for only $5k, Charlie suddenly has so much outrage and conviction not to pay something for nothing. And refers to the $5k demand as "extortion" day and night, but never mentions Sigmundo's $100k payments as "extortion" until his own attorney asks him on the witness stand.
Donna claims she couldn't speak to Charlie multiple times because her husband was with her, can't you check the phone locations for her and her husband to see if that is true? Most likely she wasn't with him
Ok, so I was expecting a much better cross-examination. Either a) Charlie is that good of a prepared witness b) the prosecutor phoned it in c) the case is just plain weak evidence wise against Charlie or d) prosecutor is highly overrated/had a bad day. Yesterday one of the defense attorneys commenting on this case said the prosecutor was the best he has seen in his 20 years of practice. If this performance is indicative of her skill set, I am frankly underwhelmed. So disappointed
The answer is d. But strike the bad day part. She is extremely overrated by the true crime fans just because she got a conviction for the others. But I would like to know which lawyer would have ever said she's the best they have seen. Yesterday I was thinking she would mess this up. But this bad?? Jesus. (and I am not even done watching the whole thing)
I respectfully disagree! I think many people were expecting a Perry Mason moment, or expected Georgia to start screaming at Charlie, or somehow expected Charlie to break down hysterically crying or admit that he was involved. I think many people expected a theatrical performance by Georgia, and what you received was a prosecutor who doesn’t need to be theatrical in order to be effective. She’s strategic and methodical. She caught him in lies, let him ramble on - because the more Charlie spoke, the more unbelievable it sounds, and she asked questions that were relevant. This jury is extremely smart. I truly think Georgia did a wonderful job, and I’m confident a guilty verdict will be reached!
From Charlie's own lips at 2:36:49 - "I'll pay someone to go threaten him and scare him". Yeah, Charlie, your good at hiring people to do your dirty work alright. It's over!
I can't imagine being 5 feet away in the jury box and feeling the arrogance oozing off this man. The jurors all had a full lather of his arrogance at the end of this.
When asked simple question, such as about celebration meal and Wendy vomiting he goes into same narrative with for word used with his lawyer. It’s too rehearsed. It’s WORD For WORD
I feel sorry for Georgia it must be so hard to stay on point when all the codefendants and family are baffling everyone with absolute BS …. that they have had years to rehearse 😡
So disappointed with this cross examination. There was so much left to be said and questioned. 😒 However, I do think she got him on a few points. Fingers crossed the jury has the logic to see right through his lies
My question is this: If Charlie and Katie were so close, always protecting each other and "having each other's backs", then Why on earth didn't Charlie go to Katy's lawyer (before her first trial when he "still thought she was an innocent victim of Sugmundo, just making money deliveries for him") and why didn't he try to help Katy avoid getting convicted of the murder which he was "sure she was innocent of? Charlie could have told the court early on that "Katy is innocent and that Sigmundo had extorted everyone", but he just let "poor innocent Katy" take the fall.
@@workhorse7134 But instead he became hyper-involved. I have seen many Dr. Phil episodes where the doctor's widow falls for a "Nigerian Prince" who needs her help and then bilks her out of a million dollars. And many old factory workers who lose their life savings to a sexy "Ukrainian woman" (who is really a Pakistanian man). But I have never heard of a man with a university doctorate from a family of many lawyers being so naive as those who get catfished, etc. Charlie cannot adopt both personas.
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
He is the only smart one! The grandmother is crazy as F can’t wait until she is on the stand… 😂🤣😂, this fall there will be 🧨…. Bet she flips out at the verdict! 🤣🤦♂️🙄
@@TP-yz8pn except his condensing tone is messed up. He actually corrects her several times about grammer, definition and whether a word is a verb. It’s so crazy. Shows his personality. Not in a good way.
I dont think his lawyer did an ok job in the stand, but he was not excellent. So I thought the prosecution was going to eat his client alive, but she didnt. I was expecting a lot more from the prosecutor. I thought she was going to grill him, but she seemed to me she was just frustrated. She didnt make enough key point questions. This was like a high school debate.
HIs lawyer did a great job!! That's why there might be reasonable doubt with some jurors. Charlie completely turned this story around and some people are beleiving it. Because of his lawyer. IMO
Wouldn’t you call the police if anyone threatened your families life? I mean if you came home to your house being broken into,you would call the police, especially if you wanted that person who did it, caught?
I think so, but maybe not if I was threatened by a Powerful gang leader that had just murdered someone I knew. Honestly, I think a lot of people in that situation wouldn't tell the police
The prosecutor's snark was off-putting. The witness wasn’t snarky and created more believability by seemingly to answer without getting frustrated by the snark. I wished the prosecutor had been better because her snark may have lost this case.
I admire Ruth, her husband and daughter for sitting through all this, trial, after trial after trial and even in the discussions on the final jury instructions and trial charges. My heart breaks for them but in the same breath I am happy that each one of the accused are being brought to justice, may no stone be left unturned and may each and EVERY one of the Adelsons be held accountable.
Prosecution cross begins at 46:00 for anyone wanting to jump to it.
Yes! Thank you!
Thank you 😊
Thank you! You’re the best! I hate listening to self-serving direct examinations.
@@AidaShawJ.D. Same. Just get me to the firey cross exam.
No wonder you are all so stuck on the prosecution...smh Don even want to listen to the defense.. sad
Katie's text to Charlie telling him to go on with his life like he already did, tells me all I need to know that he's GUILTY...Why would an extortionist cut ties with someone she's extorting payments from ?? Hmmm🤔
This family is delusional. Great parenting Donna and Harvey. No wonder why Rob left and never looked back.
Does anyone know why Paul left the family?
@@donnagould7834
who is Paul?
the ADELSON children are
Robert Charles and Wendi
I read that the son Robert left because he couldn’t take his controlling parents. He wanted to marry a woman that they disapproved of. So he married the woman his parents wanted. They eventually divorced and he married the first woman that he always wanted to marry. Sorry I don’t know where I read that so take it for what it’s worth.
It took real courage for Rob to leave. Subconsciously, we are drawn to the familiar.
@@donnagould7834you mean Rob right?
What I can't get past is that the hitmen took a payment plan. Amongst many other things in Charlie's story - that part doesn't make sense. I hope the jury sees through this!
They didn’t. But he believed that Katie set it up for him & she will protect him. 🤔
Exactly. He was essentially catfished
@@JahlenJohnson11Katie is the guiltiest
Yep. It's ridiculous. Even a very fair plan all things considered. It makes no sense what so ever.
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
The state did not disappoint!!! I love the frustration in her face which shows what the rest of us are feeling while listening to Charlie's ridiculous lies!!!
I agree..there are some cases where the defense is just ridiculously laughable and the attempts to explain away the evidence is just mind blowing!! Lol lies and stories that only a 5 year old would believe. 95% of his defense follows absolutely NO logic whatsoever.
Girl. What???? Did you listen to all of Charlie’s testimony?! He ISN’T A SNITCH, SO NOW HE’S A LIAR?! This ish is SAD that there are people like you. The police literally called, STALKED, HARASSED, TRAUMATIZED, his SWEET AS PIE MOM
@@tommybrown9534I PRAY NEITHER OF YOU EVVERRRR GET ON A JURY!!! YOU DITSY’S would let a murderer literally walk FREE, over someone that didn’t SNITCH to save his family.
@@jadevernon8903 ummmm..did YOU listen to it?! From the moment his "extortion" began..."Because of u, my brother in law was just murdered, my safe is now empty, my life is in danger (along with my family's lives), and i gotta pay $3000 a month (which apparently doesn't go towards my balance)...u just single handedly destroyed my life!! Wanna spend the night??" Lol come on now.
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@@jadevernon8903Diabolical Donna Adelson has entered the comment section. 👋🏽
Whoops! Bet your heart pounds every time there’s an unexpected visitor at your door..
Which by the way is well deserved.
Hilarious how Dr. Dentist made up a ridiculously incredible story to try to fit the facts of the case. I’m glad he took the stand & sealed his fate.
Imagine The Latin Kings making a layaway plan for a murder for hire 🤣
Charlie said Katie went outside and made a phone call to her "friend"! Patrick Sandford said Katie's phone was turned off for 11 hours! So what phone did she call on?
He said the word extortion hundreds of times in his testimony but somehow not once did he say it on a recorded phone call. Not even with KM. Lies lies lies
I guess he thinks if he says "extortion" over and over, people will start to believe it. He's a pretty cocky dude.
@@caldonia7208 Cocky clown is more like it🤣🤣🤣🤣.
That Dolce Vita tape and Jeffrey Lacasse testimony really gets him. They used the word extortion 123 times but he doesn’t mention it once in all of these tapes?
Charlie: I use pledge and donate synonymously.
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The prosecutor needs a mega pint 🍻
😂😂😂I'm dead😂😂
Why would the Latin Kings need to drive all the way to Tallahassee and kill someone they don’t even know when they could just rob or extort Charlie without doing a murder?
Exactly
Exactly
Katie, they heard the Adelsons were paying 1 million to deal with Markel
@@alexkane84 yes, but they could have just taken the million from him. No reason to do a murder for someone who hasn’t asked you to do the murder.
@@dylanaames250theyre gang member criminals , you think they’re completely rationale ? They could have believed the killing would have put tremendous leverage and fear in the extortion victim, cartels do it all the time to send a message , like they’re willing to kill and you’re next. They knew Markel had no money as a state college professor, he was expendable, it was the Adelsons who were driving Benz throwing around talk about million dollars
There is a difference between giving slick answers and being honest.
So true he thought he had all his bases covered like in an exam setting but none of it made any sense. The best part is a woman has your money for some supposed extortion and you allow her to take a pill and sleep at your residence the night. Totally laughable.
To believe his asinine story, you'd have to believe that he was naive and gullible enough to believe that a woman with absolutely no connection to him (after their breakup) and no incentive to "protect" him, with 2 small children, would willingly act as go-between for him and a murderous gang while getting nothing in return ("she was broke").
Someone give the prosecutor an award 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Georgia was brilliant! Charlie was a joke and I actually felt secondhand embarrassed for him as he was sooooo obviously guilty and his “extortion” story was a joke…
Charlie said on the recordings he has no idea who tuto was - he said it many times yet he did know. Why would he be scared to admit who he was if he was being extorted by him? It makes no sense and to me shows he was trying to distance himself and hid his connection because of the murder. It’s simple but screams guilt
Actually you don’t snitch on gang members typically if you fear for your life. You try to avoid it at all costs.
@@monchichi6Then why do it now ? Lol
@@calmingwavesxeasy explanation, he literally has no choice now🤷♀️ he already testified that it makes him nervous even now if he gets out because of him coming out now
@@vickymichelangelo5347 lmao 🤣 he's full of it. No gang me we is putting someone on a payment plan and creating a paper trail like that. No way.
@@calmingwavesx Because it wasnt a gang member extorting him. it was KATIIEEEE! Sigfredo probably didnt even know she was doing it! She took advantage of this dope and was able to get $3,000 a month for 10 YEARS! i dont understand how people cant comprehend this.
The key word is REASONABLE. “REASONABLE DOUBT”. There is nothing “reasonable” about the defense theory. The defense theory is in fact UNREASONABLE- so he should be found guilty of solicitation to commit first degree murder is how I would vote if I were a juror.
Charlie’s getting cocky during cross!! Totally different attitude from yesterday.
He can't say how his sister feels about him nor details of her personal life, but, he knows she went by the crime scene only to buy " bullet bourbon". Doesn't make any sense.
I can’t believe Charlie thought this story would work.
He has suitcases under his eyes. A set of luggage. He had to know it did not make sense.
He has such an ego, built up by mommy, and he thinks he is above all others. The bigger the fall Mr. Dentist!
The entire family was in on it
Clearly this is the first time he has ever been held accountable.
Oh absolutely. Without a doubt. He is super overprivileged, and beyond all else ARROGANT beyond belief.
Utterly convinced that jail is for poor people. Not special flowers like the Adelsons.
Clear as a bell! This guy is unbelievable with words of explanations/excuses for anything and everything! After break he looks worried and so does mom
I agree! Spoiled smirking brat
@@j.c.7555 HIS mom is not there. The victim’s mom is.
Georgia’s face at 1:39:48. 🤣 she must have had kids like mine where at 3-4 years old they will repeat everything they hear and have memory of two weeks ago when you said they could have a cookie 🤣
Or remember you told them you would take them to target during the weekend and it’s now “ the weekend “
You guys don't realize but him being this arrogant is a blessing for the prosecutors because the jurors are probably trying to keep themselves from vomiting That's how openly arrogant he is it's really a blessing for the prosecutors
I sure hope so. The way he's able to lie on the fly is truly insane and sociopathic!
Id love to hear from someone in the gallery on how the jury seems to react to him. In the JD and AH trial reporters gave really good insight to the expressions and reactions of the jury.
I have been watching another channel and it's been reported that there is one juror who has nodded in Charlie's favor until ...today when they had a disturbed look about Charlie. That's the only juror there was a red on as far as the Lawyer/reporters there from the STS channel. @@andsuddenly4252
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
Seriously!! And when he says "yeah, WHEN I get out.."
LOVE her calling him doctor.
Yup she is inflating his already prideful ego and insulting him all the same because I'm sure by then his licence was taken away.
Wow, he didn't even know the charges he was facing. Lol he assumed that he was alleged to have done the murder with his sister and parents yet the affidavit was referring to the three already in jail for Dan's murder. Why would his subconscious think that? Also it's genius to plant the seed in Charlie's head about Wendy and if his sister "appreciated" what he did for her and to make him realise that he was a) not the favoured child between the two b) quickly named by Wendy as a possible suspect and c) just the fall guy for his sister and mother's ulterior motives. This is one sick family.
Why was Charlie so generous to Sigmundo (to the tune of $100k), but so stingy with the Bump "extortionists?
Answer: Because the Bump man wanted something for nothing, while Sigmundo was at least "providing a service" for his big payouts.
Charlie Charlie Charlie you talked yourself into a conviction. His convoluted answers are not going to go over well with the jury. His story makes ZERO sense. There are so many points it would take too long to list here. Charlie taking the stand was not a good idea.
Nah, by law, has to reasonable doubt! I am sorry this was not a home run.
His story was so freaking *CONVULUTED* you couldn't even make sense of what he was saying. He *DEFINITELY* spent his days and nights in jail memorizing and rehearsing that. You needed a play by play explanation/clarification for EVERYTHING he said cause it didn't make sense and you couldn't follow based on all the timeline
@@putjesusfirst9217home run.... slam dunk.... Mike drop guilty!
I don't believe a word he said, hes a liar. I hope Wendi and mom are locked up too
He is correcting her it is so arrogant. On the witness stand. State asks a question and he doesn’t answer but makes accusations towards her. It’s crazy. The judge admonished her. Yes shouldn’t talk over each other, but he goes on a narrative.
Why didn’t he record Katie at his house demanding money?
Because at that time in 2014 he didn’t think she was extorting him he kept repeating this on the stand
Georgia Cappleman you go girl !!!!! You are rockin!!!!! You got this!!!!!
“A little dental humor couldn’t hurt right?”
I laughed out loud when I heard Georgia said that under her breath. She is a boss🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I thought she said dull but dental fits ha.
One extortion is utterly ridiculous.. Two is utter insanity. It is frustrating as we all know what happened, he is just a slimey snake avoiding capture..
This guy is very intelligent but something is not adding up with his story.
Which story? The prosecutor's theories?
@@LEARNING-67no Charlie's fairy tale
Lol..."I had the money in my safe to pay the full amount but I was put on a payment plan" 😂😂😂
Lol
😂😂😂
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Except he didn't, Katie took the $138,000, which was all he had in his safe
@debraparker161 but he said he had a million dollars in cash , which is it ? You had the money or not? I am confused
That whole family doesn't give a crap about Dans murder. Charlie is a weasel
Not going to his funeral says a lot
Omg it’s painful beyond belief watching this Charlie ! An utter disgrace along with the rest of his so called family !!!
EXCELLENT WORK GEORGIA THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS HES GUILTY !!!!
I agree !
Ye. His body language says " I'm guilty and I'm trying to CIA😅
Yes.. Just hoping the jury has enough common sense.
It wasn’t clear to me and, like the jurors, I don’t know the history of this case. I thought the prosecutor was snarky during cross-I would have preferred professional and not so many snide comments.
@@triplesss7229I believe her comments came over as snide out of frustration. He was deliberately obtuse failing to answer her questions directly. He was overly arrogant and condescending, u der the circumstances Georgia was very restrained.
Well, let's ask Harvey what his big 70th Bday gift was since none of his children remember that detail!😂
There’s never been a similar case of extortion in the history of history
😂
I am so disappointed in the cross examination. I think her sarcasm is falling flat. She's not hammering him. Although i think he's guilty, he made a decent witness. I hope her poor cross doesn't hurt their chances at a conviction. To me, he came off arrogant but likable.
Her sarcasm is soooo annoying. Got on my nerves
she hammering him, she’s pointing out how he himself sounds, she doing a great cross examination because she’s tripping him up, there’s nothing likable about him
She is setting up the closing argument.
If they ever make a movie out of this, Lisa Kudrow in character as Phoebe Buffay should play the prosecutor.
Someone else mentioned it should be Zoey Deschanel
Personally I think Laura linney would be great. Lisa as phoebe would turn it into a comedy.
Gwyneth Paltrow too
Charlie's rebuttals reminds me of that famous quote from Seinfeld by George Costanza........."Jerry, just remember, its not a lie if you believe it"
😂🎯💯
Wow the way he’s speaking to the prosecuting attorney. Condescending !!!
I can’t stand his voice anymore…., he sure, loves talking and listening to himself.
No emotion, too smooth. An answer for everything. Completely rehearsed- he had years to prepare for this performance 🎭
Invested in this trial. Thanks for covering it. ❤
He never said even one
time. I can’t remember
he even knows what he
ate all those years ago 😳
it's ironic that the only person consistent with their evidence in this trial was Luis Rivera.
His excuse is SO terrible and makes absolutely zero sense. No extortionists take a payment plan or checks! They are not a "buisness" 20 years ago. Common sense. Duh!
Charlie was happy to buy little gifts all the time for Katie since he thought that that would convince a juror some day that he thought she was a poor struggling mother and he could say that he thought all the money was being transferred straight to the "extortionist".
But the problem is, he is so adamant that Katie and Sigmundo must call the Bump number on his and Donna's behalf, and they are obviously Charlie's underlings taking his orders. The only reason Charlie and Donna called in the end is because the police knew not to pick up when a call came from Katie or from Sigmundo, so they couldn't get through to the bump-men, and finally Charlie and Donna had to call themselves.
He blinks so much when he’s lying. It’s so obvious.
Why would you need to "keep someone happy" if they have no ill intentions toward you or no power over you?
charlie did so well on the stand he got less than 3hrs of deliberations for life with no parole.
He’s good at swerving the questions, I was expecting the prosecutor to be more insistent in getting answers to the questions she’s asking rather than him answering the questions he prefers to hear
Zig zag
I don't think the prosecutor did a good job in intimidating him. He was able to answer and explain (whether you like the answers or not), while the Prosecuter didn't hold him to anything. She just asked and listened and moved on.
It was similar with her cross of Katie during her first trial.. maybe that’s just her style. She trips him up quite a bit on many points in evidence, but it’s subtle and then she just moves on. Would be more effective if she pushed him more during those points or emphasized the absurdity of his answers more.
@@TP-yz8pnlet’s hope it comes together in closing
But he sounds arrogant, entitled and like a liar . Maybe that was her intent.
Dr Untouchable and Wendi have the gift of lying and quick on their feet! No wonder he took the stand! The wire recordings are really good support for the prosecutors theory. However his explanations just don’t make sense.
He definitely had the gift of gab...
It is so telling that there isn't a single Adelson in court supporting poor Charlie
Law enforcement is picking them off one at a time. Mom needs to go next, then Wendi. I’m on the fence about Dad still. I Need to hear ALL of the wires to know what Dads part was.
@@Cindeelouhoototally agree with you on that 👍
If they are on the witness list to testify they can’t be in court.
They were dropped from the witness list when the state tried to depose them and Donna pled the 5th
Donna aka the puppet master is next!
It would make far more sense to say 'They tried to extort me, but I didn't pay. So they tried to kill my sister, but killed the husband because the opportunity arose. So then I started paying and was terrified."
If Charlie was so scared of Katie's jealous husband, why did he screw her twice in October?
And if Charlie is so scared of Sigmundo, then why was he keeping after Katie to get Sigmundo to call the bump-number on Donna's behalf for him?
Oldest son Robert Adelson bailed on the family a long time ago thanks to Donna. I see why now.
For such a close family I wonder what happened. Donna seems like the type who wouldn’t let her kids live they’re own life without her …? Hmmm 🤔
@@sillyybaee4153Donna wanted Rob to date Jewish, basically forced him to break up with his Indian girlfriend. He did find a Jewish woman to marry but I believe the marriage was annulled and he went back to his girlfriend. They’re married now with kids and they’re both doctors.
@@melrey1351 Thankyou!!
@@melrey1351yes I heard the same thing.
I really feel for the older brother. He sure got dealt a sh*tty hand in the family arena. Clearly he is the most mentally healthy of the bunch.
Take a shot everytime Charlie blinks
I’d be passed out in 10 minutes. I’ve tried blinking every time he does and yea, no not working.
Also look at he dark circle under his eyes! They are darker d darker everyday! He must not be sleeping! Maybe nervous!
Even if he didn’t know at the that she was extorting him, she would know it - those messages are not consistent with an extortionist regardless of whether he knew or not! He is terrible on the stand and the prosecutor isn’t addressing it in a clear way for the jury - I hope the jury get this right - the recordings are enough without the direct and cross at all.
But Charlie did supposedly know that Sigmund and Louis were "using a naive, helpless Katy as a gopher to extort him".
Yet on the recordings Charlie never uses the word "extortion" in reference to the earlier Markel murder extortion", an "extortion" that cost him a couple hundred thousand.
He only uses that word in reference to the Latin Kings maybe trying to extort him "for the second extortion" for only $5k.
Then after he is in jail, he talks about extortion all the time. And then suddenly 130 times he utters that word "extortion" in regards to Sigmundo in the couple hours of testimony, but only cuz he got caught and arrested for hiring the hit men.
I love how Charlie kept saying he didn’t know Katie was the extorted at the time. I was like you dumb$ss, it doesn’t matter if YOU knew, you are claiming she WAS the extorted. It didn’t matter if he knew it or not at the time because their communication was not that of someone being extorted. His whole testimony was such nonsense.
Or maybe Katy manipulated him into thinking he was on a "payment plan". Have we ever considered that maybe she's behind it and the extortion didn't exist and Charlie has deep rooted codependency issues?
@@phil5992 yep
Yes, I believe that she could have set him up.
Definitely she's not a great person
Admitted to lying on all her testimony and convicted of getting her children's father to murder someone.
Extorting Charlie seems like something she would do. Probably seemed like easy money to her.
He keeps smiling..it's so disrespectful 🤮
This case gets sadder and sadder. Such a waste of life. First and foremost, Dan's death and then, a seemingly normal, intelligent man, on trial for murder after associating himself with a scum woman, with violent associates.
How does something like this occur? Narcissism? What could possibly make a grandmother and a Dr son, even fathom such a crime? We'll never know that.
The grandmother wanted her babies close. And she got exactly what she wanted. The most disgusting thing about this is that she got to watch those little boys grow up and to interact with them all the time.
@@genevievegreene1595Bingo. Both her and Wendy are guilty. I hope those boys figure out what really happened, that their dear old grandmother and mom were the driving force behind the execution of their father.
TOTAL CONTROL of the KIDS! Lately, such idiots are choosing murder over divorce! (Chris Watts, Scott and Drew Peterson come to mind). What a sickening society!
The rule is that the woman is always the brains and the man is always the muscle, no doubt he wouldnt have done this without his mom and sister egging him on passively. It's like how my own mother would bother my dad until he actually caves.
He’s far from normal, he may be wealthy and a professional but nothing about Charlie is normal. You must not have known many professional people in your life, they’re just as scummy (oftentimes more so) than poor people. How do you think people acquire wealth?
Kinda crazy when Donna said, “he hasn’t beaten the Adelson family yet” where is that Adelson family now in the most critical time. 🤔🤔🤨
He’s always trying to define what he directly said
If Katie not involved why Charlie, do you have to keep her “happy”
Perfect example of a malignant narcissist master of the dark triad. I lived next door to dumbed down version of him, lie lie zig zag very frustrating.
Or... perhaps Katie is a "perfect example of a malignant narcissist master of the dark triad" and charlie OR Sigfredo don't have the experience you seem to have in detecting narcissistic traits and they were, i dont know, manipulated???
His explanation regarding texts of mom being outside his house and he said ten minutes makes no sense. Insists never saw them that night
Did anyone think game over when he boldly said I'll pay if someone comes for my family. Did he really say that? So he expects the jury to believe he didn't do it to begin with. And to believe he got "extorted " that if he's out that is rational belief to live. Astonishing! I just can't 😮
Lol most of the questions she asks him… he goes on and on about various miscellaneous stuff from his script log and never answers the question 😂
That’s what liars do.
Divert and confuse
Charlie comes across as snarky and he is smarter than anyone else there. It comes across as I likable and unbelievable.
Charlie's REAL attitude to an 'extortionist' is on Dolce Vita tape TO KATIE at 2:35 "If someone comes up to me they'd better be ready to shoot, cause I'm gonna shoot them. SOMEONE COMES UP TO ME ASKING FOR MONEY IN MY HOUSE?" - but Katie stayed the night when she took $138,000 from Charlie.
Good point. And when the Bump-man asks for only $5k, Charlie suddenly has so much outrage and conviction not to pay something for nothing. And refers to the $5k demand as "extortion" day and night, but never mentions Sigmundo's $100k payments as "extortion" until his own attorney asks him on the witness stand.
I’m surprised they didn’t point out that Rivera testified that sigfreido wasn’t even a member of the Latin kings, he was just a friend of a member 🙄
How did Garcia and Kathy know where Dan lived in the first place?
It's very easy to figure that out! Charlie prob told Katy.
Not giving anyone and out but it is public information.
Donna claims she couldn't speak to Charlie multiple times because her husband was with her, can't you check the phone locations for her and her husband to see if that is true? Most likely she wasn't with him
Ok, so I was expecting a much better cross-examination. Either a) Charlie is that good of a prepared witness b) the prosecutor phoned it in c) the case is just plain weak evidence wise against Charlie or d) prosecutor is highly overrated/had a bad day. Yesterday one of the defense attorneys commenting on this case said the prosecutor was the best he has seen in his 20 years of practice. If this performance is indicative of her skill set, I am frankly underwhelmed. So disappointed
The answer is d. But strike the bad day part.
She is extremely overrated by the true crime fans just because she got a conviction for the others.
But I would like to know which lawyer would have ever said she's the best they have seen.
Yesterday I was thinking she would mess this up. But this bad?? Jesus. (and I am not even done watching the whole thing)
Agreed with original post
I respectfully disagree! I think many people were expecting a Perry Mason moment, or expected Georgia to start screaming at Charlie, or somehow expected Charlie to break down hysterically crying or admit that he was involved. I think many people expected a theatrical performance by Georgia, and what you received was a prosecutor who doesn’t need to be theatrical in order to be effective. She’s strategic and methodical. She caught him in lies, let him ramble on - because the more Charlie spoke, the more unbelievable it sounds, and she asked questions that were relevant. This jury is extremely smart. I truly think Georgia did a wonderful job, and I’m confident a guilty verdict will be reached!
@@niemand6031She is not overrated.
Nothing like a payment plan .....the conscientious extortionist 😂 This has FARGO VIBES
From Charlie's own lips at 2:36:49 - "I'll pay someone to go threaten him and scare him". Yeah, Charlie, your good at hiring people to do your dirty work alright. It's over!
I can't imagine being 5 feet away in the jury box and feeling the arrogance oozing off this man. The jurors all had a full lather of his arrogance at the end of this.
When asked simple question, such as about celebration meal and Wendy vomiting he goes into same narrative with for word used with his lawyer. It’s too rehearsed. It’s WORD For WORD
I feel sorry for Georgia it must be so hard to stay on point when all the codefendants and family are baffling everyone with absolute BS …. that they have had years to rehearse 😡
I feel soooo bad for his Mama, too lose a child is just too much! 😢😭
I’m not impressed by the cross.
he wanted to be THE hero in the eyes of his parents by being the savior of his spoiled little brat sister‘s miserable life .
Weak cross! He’s smart and is using it to his benefit. What a waste of an opportunity Prosecution!!
Disappointing
1,000,000%
Agreed
I dont think he is very smart, he is average, but I think prosecution was lame, so that helped him.
I know nothing about the case but were I a juror, I’d believe Charlie. The prosecutor is too snide.
@@triplesss7229Yes, I thought so too.
Throughout the trial she's made snide comments and innuendos.
Georgia did a great job! Hope the jury finds him guilty! Life in prison is what Charlie deserves.
Justice for Dan.
Something ain’t right with this man
So disappointed with this cross examination. There was so much left to be said and questioned. 😒 However, I do think she got him on a few points. Fingers crossed the jury has the logic to see right through his lies
These are my exact thoughts.
Agreed, i like the prosecutor, she let him
Say too much though
@@ja5302 Her closing arguements will sink him.She is a very smart prosecutor.
He is a liar. And pretty good at it.
Prosecutor is saving the best for last.He looked so beat out and tired and that's exactly how he should look he is a terrible person.
Did his attorney NOT Coach Charlie to humble himself ..
He is thinking that not reporting a murder to save his own life will get him off the hook. It won’t.
My question is this: If Charlie and Katie were so close, always protecting each other and "having each other's backs", then Why on earth didn't Charlie go to Katy's lawyer (before her first trial when he "still thought she was an innocent victim of Sugmundo, just making money deliveries for him")
and why didn't he try to help Katy avoid getting convicted of the murder which he was "sure she was innocent of?
Charlie could have told the court early on that "Katy is innocent and that Sigmundo had extorted everyone", but he just let "poor innocent Katy" take the fall.
Ok playing devil's advocate here.
If I knew a murderous biker gang were involved in a murder I'd want to stay well away from getting involved.
@@workhorse7134 But instead he became hyper-involved.
I have seen many Dr. Phil episodes where the doctor's widow falls for a "Nigerian Prince" who needs her help and then bilks her out of a million dollars. And many old factory workers who lose their life savings to a sexy "Ukrainian woman" (who is really a Pakistanian man).
But I have never heard of a man with a university doctorate from a family of many lawyers being so naive as those who get catfished, etc. Charlie cannot adopt both personas.
Come on people, understand what's factually happened: I believe Charlie because he's testified Katie told him the extortion was One-Third of One Million Dollars. Katie took $138,000 and received another $3,000 monthly, when Rivera testified the total was $100,000. Obviously Katie planned the entire extortion plot, not Charlie.
He knew he was lying. She didn’t extort any $ from him. 🙄 That $ was for the guys killing Dan.
Wow, the eldest son was smart AF to get away from this demonic family
He is the only smart one! The grandmother is crazy as F can’t wait until she is on the stand… 😂🤣😂, this fall there will be 🧨…. Bet she flips out at the verdict! 🤣🤦♂️🙄
My mom : 747 times Katie was protecting me: 1,783 Extortion: 1,546,987 There I just saved you 14 hours of testimony
When he doesn’t have good answer says it’s been ten years. But he remembers his story, what happened with “extortion” with amazing detail
Yeah his defense tactics are fairly similar to Katie’s, but slicker
@@TP-yz8pn except his condensing tone is messed up. He actually corrects her several times about grammer, definition and whether a word is a verb. It’s so crazy. Shows his personality. Not in a good way.
"You know more than i know," exactly!
Come on. Not even admitting your mom was a bit much and did dislike Dan is obvious lie. We heard her venom.
True
Probably caused all of this.
@@chocolatetownforever7537promise it did.
@@tabbylynn4130 I think youre right Tabby.
Why do I feel the need to confess to stealing a chocolate bar from the store 37 years ago! This prosecutor is 💯
I dont think his lawyer did an ok job in the stand, but he was not excellent.
So I thought the prosecution was going to eat his client alive, but she didnt.
I was expecting a lot more from the prosecutor. I thought she was going to grill him, but she seemed to me she was just frustrated. She didnt make enough key point questions. This was like a high school debate.
She brought In too many extraneous things. Half the time I was thinking so?
HIs lawyer did a great job!! That's why there might be reasonable doubt with some jurors. Charlie completely turned this story around and some people are beleiving it. Because of his lawyer. IMO
1:53:27 he started off saying “ I’d been better off paying “ then caught himself
Wouldn’t you call the police if anyone threatened your families life? I mean if you came home to your house being broken into,you would call the police, especially if you wanted that person who did it, caught?
I think so, but maybe not if I was threatened by a Powerful gang leader that had just murdered someone I knew.
Honestly, I think a lot of people in that situation wouldn't tell the police
Never been so many lies in such a short period of time.
Guilty as sin.
The prosecutor's snark was off-putting. The witness wasn’t snarky and created more believability by seemingly to answer without getting frustrated by the snark. I wished the prosecutor had been better because her snark may have lost this case.
She was really snarky throughout the trial.
When I get out? Talk about thinking he’s going to go free. The same attitude that he had to getting rid of Dan, he will never go to trial for murder.
I have doubt I would not say quilty