She hit an f8 in that short of her swimming with a dolphin and the dolphin lost it 😂 she avoid such high moves as they don’t sound very good. Another example is dimash who’s amazing his d8 whistle was awful sounding
Ha, love this video, so cute ☺ One tip I don’t know if you know but I thought worth sharing is to inhale instead of exhale while doing whistle notes. I find it a lot easier to do and a lot louder, and I can go veeery high. obvs there are lots of problems with that method, like switching between in and out, and it is a bit harder to control pitch, but it still sometimes find helps me find where to position my voice to reach that note while exhaling.
I have experimented with this a bit! I honestly don't use whistle register very often mostly just flageolet but I am always curious to try new things maybe I will mess around with the inhale more!
Hey there Its not good too inhale to get whistle notes cause it will break the vocal very easily so its suggested to whistle out rather. You can try out straw singing too that will help you get the whistles out properly and clearly as straw singing helps your vocal cords thin without harming them 😊 Just an advice from my side 😅
@@lauri3548 because while you're inhaling you're literally closing your vocal cords too tightly due to pressure trust me you might find it easier to do it this way to squeeze a whistle out of your vocal cords but it leads to tightening of muscles near it . The safe way is to practice clear whistle notes is through whistling it out .
@@vennela2142 Okey, so you'd say that compression is the problem? It's just interesting to me that most people say that inhale singing is damaging because of the air flow. When in fact we breath through our vocals cords all the time. And the pressure of exhale singing exceeds the pressure of inhale singing. The muscles we use to exhale are stronger and capable of far bigger pressures compared to the muscles we inhale with. For example couching. In my experience the compression/cord closure while inhale singing in flageolet/ whistle is intense. I'm not going to deny that. It can be damaging if you are squeezing notes, no matter if inhaling or exhaling. In my experience inhale singing sets up the vocal tract in a optimal way for singing. Larynx drops down, soft palate is slighty lifted and the resonance with inhale singing is superior to exhale singing. You literally keep the form of inhaling, which is far more spacious compared to the space most peoples exhale vocalize with. Inhale singing has benefits, for example it eliminates the subconscious tensions we have while vocalizing. Hence why (most?) People find flageolet / whistle voice easier through inhale singing. As the old bel canto teachers said, inhalare la voce. The old bel canto sopranos used to adjust their resonance to a more optimal setting through inhale singing. Since it is literally inhalare la voce in the most literal sense 😂. I have dipped my toes in flageolet and whistle voice for a while now. As a tenor i know i have higher notes then E-F5. Which are now the usual ceiling in my singing. (Im not counting outliers, for example i have a video of me singing A#5 with flageolet, which was loud, relaxed and RESONANT. But it's a once in a full moon note, so i wont count it. I have found a more optimal way of singing through inhale singing. Inhale singing exposes you to the subconscious habits we have while phonating normally. For example higher note --> larynx rises. TLDR; Inhale singing can be damaging, just like any other way of singing if you sing outside of your range and use muscles that are not ment to be sang with. The compression happenning with inhale singing in my opinion is the goal. It is tight and uses the primary vocalization muscles. (Or at least i notice that i have far less strain in inhale singing compared to exhale singing when singing high high notes (fifth octave). So in my opinion we should not dismiss a vocal function based on it being unknown hence --> it will damage ones voice. There are degrees of compression in inhale singing just like there are degrees in exhale singing.
@lemandoeslogic2261 Wow! This is very insightful, more so than my current vocal instructor. Idk if it's because she's just used to dealing with "female-singers" rather than "male-singers" but yeah, it's nice to hear someone with a deeper speaking-voice than mine being able to hit notes MUCH higher than I currently can. I was beginning to feel discouraged from my current instructor's... lack of enthusiasm for helping me achieve a whistle I guess lol. I mean, it could very well be that my personal physiology can't support it since I have issues with my left ear currently and a disolcated jaw from a childhood injury, but I'd still like to push my limits as much as I can, but it's very diffiicult to know just HOW to train without someone really explaining it, and yours has been the most detailed I've found thus far. I've always gone for ballads, or more classical/operatic songs, but there's so many songs that I wanna upload covers of that require high notes and even whistle-territory where a falsetto just wouldn't match the genre (e.g., rock, metal, alternative etc). I look forward to seeing more from you while I see your other vids. Many thanks!
Of course! From your injuries I think you can do whatever you want with your voice and I feel that way about just about anyone, it just takes a lot of time. I found flageolet and whistle tones on my own after strengthening falsetto it just takes a lot of experimentation
Hey there Its not good too inhale to get whistle notes cause it will break the vocal cords very easily so its suggested to whistle out rather. You can try out straw singing too that will help you get the whistles out properly and clearly as straw singing helps your vocal cords thin without harming them 😊 i wanted posted the same comment cause i don't want y'all to damage your voice for whistle notes 😅
I’m a tenor and I can only hit very high notes with ingressive phonation like c7 altho it sound like a seal asphyxiating that then whistles, I can’t do low notes with this technique.
So somebody who'd does actually think there is a difference between Flageolet and Whistle! I also heard that you said "flageolet & head" blend. Care to elaborate on that? I've been experimenting with it and I'm starting to see some result that's similar to that (sounds like head voice mixed with flageolet). How high are you able to take this mix? Able to take it into the 6th octave? And how long did it take for the two registers to blend? I'm asking because I'm aiming for something how Dimash uses his head voice (taking it up to E6/F6). I also have examples of my singing on my channel if you want to hear an example.
I didn't think there was a difference at first until I explored it more. To be honest I never really go into the 6th octave because I don't really have a use for it. I usually warmup to C6 everyday, I think I got to A6 in this video just out of curiosity. Blending the falsetto into the Flag is just like adding weight/chest resonance in the mixed voice as you are coming down. If you try to sing in full falsetto above around G5 you will notice you have to use more and more air pressure and widen vowels which to me doesn't sound very appealing and this is where we would start to blend the two. I think if you are talking about E6 it is most likely just a very developed Flag and not any falsetto.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 I see. Do you offer lessons by any chance? I've been trying to blend the falsetto into the flageolet for some time now. I can get to D6 in my head voice/falsetto. And can get to C#6 pretty consistently. So I'm just curious as to how those two will mix together in that area.
Hello Leman. May I enquire is the feeling of Flageolet Register very near to the sensation of hiccups? I am still trying my best to comprehend more on Flageolet Register. Thank you very much for your enlightenment Leman. 😊🤝
@LemanDoesLogic Nice to read from you Leman. 😊 Yes Leman, I have just tried the hiccups again and normal hiccups do feel more in the chest. However, if I apply the same hiccup sensations and use a closed vowel EEE on the hiccup. I discover a new type of sound emerges with timbre alike to the Flageolet Register. Have you experienced that before as well Leman. 😊🤝
@@Open1Glitz83 I could see what you are saying could possibly be flageolet but to be honest I would have to hear it to know what voicing you are in. If you can make this sound and very quietly and easily go to around E5-C6 then yes that would be flageolet most likely.
Greetings Leman. Thank you very much for your reply. There is one more doubt that I have upon Flageolet Register and Whistle Register, that is both of these squeaky registers can never go into full voice by themselves (unless they are blended with the chest voice) can't they? 😊🤝
@@Open1Glitz83 Using the term "full voice" can be confusing. Flageolet can be blended with other resonance chambers and actually be quite strong and resonant once you experiment enough
Do you feel you have more control over flageolet than whistle . Or do you feel flageolet notes are as same as easy as head voice notes to control? please help. I'm struggling to find flageolet but already have whistle.
When I ended up discovering my whistle notes , I lost my flageolet. Now I lost the whistle back for flageolet. Those training attempts got my vocal cords strained
Hey, i have a question, but it's totally ok if you won't read or won't come to answer this... thanks already for making the video in the first place! 💚 So my question is: As far as i understood, to create whistle notes, the throat has to be very relaxed and the tone needs to be very thin, quiet and light. To me that's kind of a contradiction, because to make the notes thin, i need to push a little which automatically unrelaxes my throat. When it stays telaxed, the note automatically gets more thick so there's just no sound. Where is my mistake or misunderstanding? I slipped up in whistle register about four times (very shortly und not controlled), so i assume, my voice is capable of it, i just can't find the right technic to do it controlled /on purpose. Thank you so much!
Well, for whistle notes especially the vocal folds actually have to come in quite a bit and it can feel uncomfortable at first, flageolet is a bit lower but feels pretty similar. I would continue trying to find a pitch you can continue hitting and trying to make this comfortable over and over and then slowly trying to control the pitch or match pitches on a piano.
Finally someone wise and honest to not follow the masses, thinking head voice is different from falsetto, they are the same, just how you deal with it.
7:19 I don't think Mariah can go above C7, maybe she can
*Mariah:* _Hold my vocal cords_ 🐦
She hit an f8 in that short of her swimming with a dolphin and the dolphin lost it 😂 she avoid such high moves as they don’t sound very good. Another example is dimash who’s amazing his d8 whistle was awful sounding
Ps Mariah went to b[b]7 on emotions live performance
My highest is F#7 inhale whistle or whatever it called 😭
The most insightful whistle note explanation I've ever seen.. now I understand.. thank you so much
You are welcome!
Ha, love this video, so cute ☺ One tip I don’t know if you know but I thought worth sharing is to inhale instead of exhale while doing whistle notes. I find it a lot easier to do and a lot louder, and I can go veeery high. obvs there are lots of problems with that method, like switching between in and out, and it is a bit harder to control pitch, but it still sometimes find helps me find where to position my voice to reach that note while exhaling.
I have experimented with this a bit! I honestly don't use whistle register very often mostly just flageolet but I am always curious to try new things maybe I will mess around with the inhale more!
Hey there Its not good too inhale to get whistle notes cause it will break the vocal very easily so its suggested to whistle out rather. You can try out straw singing too that will help you get the whistles out properly and clearly as straw singing helps your vocal cords thin without harming them 😊 Just an advice from my side 😅
@@vennela2142 Care to explain further? Why does inhaling whistle notes cause damage?
@@lauri3548 because while you're inhaling you're literally closing your vocal cords too tightly due to pressure trust me you might find it easier to do it this way to squeeze a whistle out of your vocal cords but it leads to tightening of muscles near it . The safe way is to practice clear whistle notes is through whistling it out .
@@vennela2142 Okey, so you'd say that compression is the problem?
It's just interesting to me that most people say that inhale singing is damaging because of the air flow. When in fact we breath through our vocals cords all the time. And the pressure of exhale singing exceeds the pressure of inhale singing. The muscles we use to exhale are stronger and capable of far bigger pressures compared to the muscles we inhale with. For example couching.
In my experience the compression/cord closure while inhale singing in flageolet/ whistle is intense. I'm not going to deny that. It can be damaging if you are squeezing notes, no matter if inhaling or exhaling.
In my experience inhale singing sets up the vocal tract in a optimal way for singing. Larynx drops down, soft palate is slighty lifted and the resonance with inhale singing is superior to exhale singing. You literally keep the form of inhaling, which is far more spacious compared to the space most peoples exhale vocalize with.
Inhale singing has benefits, for example it eliminates the subconscious tensions we have while vocalizing. Hence why (most?) People find flageolet / whistle voice easier through inhale singing.
As the old bel canto teachers said, inhalare la voce. The old bel canto sopranos used to adjust their resonance to a more optimal setting through inhale singing. Since it is literally inhalare la voce in the most literal sense 😂.
I have dipped my toes in flageolet and whistle voice for a while now. As a tenor i know i have higher notes then E-F5. Which are now the usual ceiling in my singing. (Im not counting outliers, for example i have a video of me singing A#5 with flageolet, which was loud, relaxed and RESONANT. But it's a once in a full moon note, so i wont count it.
I have found a more optimal way of singing through inhale singing. Inhale singing exposes you to the subconscious habits we have while phonating normally. For example higher note --> larynx rises.
TLDR; Inhale singing can be damaging, just like any other way of singing if you sing outside of your range and use muscles that are not ment to be sang with.
The compression happenning with inhale singing in my opinion is the goal. It is tight and uses the primary vocalization muscles. (Or at least i notice that i have far less strain in inhale singing compared to exhale singing when singing high high notes (fifth octave).
So in my opinion we should not dismiss a vocal function based on it being unknown hence --> it will damage ones voice.
There are degrees of compression in inhale singing just like there are degrees in exhale singing.
MIND BLOWN wow interesting
No problem!
Can u please make a vid how to sing flageolet?
ruclips.net/video/pNFj2r9b1Is/видео.html
oh cool this channel also made a tutorial lol: ruclips.net/video/ZtVfXmAazuY/видео.html
@lemandoeslogic2261 Wow! This is very insightful, more so than my current vocal instructor. Idk if it's because she's just used to dealing with "female-singers" rather than "male-singers" but yeah, it's nice to hear someone with a deeper speaking-voice than mine being able to hit notes MUCH higher than I currently can. I was beginning to feel discouraged from my current instructor's... lack of enthusiasm for helping me achieve a whistle I guess lol. I mean, it could very well be that my personal physiology can't support it since I have issues with my left ear currently and a disolcated jaw from a childhood injury, but I'd still like to push my limits as much as I can, but it's very diffiicult to know just HOW to train without someone really explaining it, and yours has been the most detailed I've found thus far.
I've always gone for ballads, or more classical/operatic songs, but there's so many songs that I wanna upload covers of that require high notes and even whistle-territory where a falsetto just wouldn't match the genre (e.g., rock, metal, alternative etc). I look forward to seeing more from you while I see your other vids. Many thanks!
Of course! From your injuries I think you can do whatever you want with your voice and I feel that way about just about anyone, it just takes a lot of time. I found flageolet and whistle tones on my own after strengthening falsetto it just takes a lot of experimentation
Hey there Its not good too inhale to get whistle notes cause it will break the vocal cords very easily so its suggested to whistle out rather. You can try out straw singing too that will help you get the whistles out properly and clearly as straw singing helps your vocal cords thin without harming them 😊 i wanted posted the same comment cause i don't want y'all to damage your voice for whistle notes 😅
I rarely inhale but its not uncomfortable for me either way
@@lemandoeslogic2261 nah it will cause the problem later might even cause dysfunction in voice so its better not to inhale to get them
I’m a tenor and I can only hit very high notes with ingressive phonation like c7 altho it sound like a seal asphyxiating that then whistles, I can’t do low notes with this technique.
So somebody who'd does actually think there is a difference between Flageolet and Whistle! I also heard that you said "flageolet & head" blend. Care to elaborate on that? I've been experimenting with it and I'm starting to see some result that's similar to that (sounds like head voice mixed with flageolet). How high are you able to take this mix? Able to take it into the 6th octave? And how long did it take for the two registers to blend? I'm asking because I'm aiming for something how Dimash uses his head voice (taking it up to E6/F6). I also have examples of my singing on my channel if you want to hear an example.
I didn't think there was a difference at first until I explored it more. To be honest I never really go into the 6th octave because I don't really have a use for it. I usually warmup to C6 everyday, I think I got to A6 in this video just out of curiosity. Blending the falsetto into the Flag is just like adding weight/chest resonance in the mixed voice as you are coming down. If you try to sing in full falsetto above around G5 you will notice you have to use more and more air pressure and widen vowels which to me doesn't sound very appealing and this is where we would start to blend the two. I think if you are talking about E6 it is most likely just a very developed Flag and not any falsetto.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 I see. Do you offer lessons by any chance? I've been trying to blend the falsetto into the flageolet for some time now. I can get to D6 in my head voice/falsetto. And can get to C#6 pretty consistently. So I'm just curious as to how those two will mix together in that area.
@@TheJustinMyrick Thats awesome! I do give lessons.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Nice! How can I get in contact with you?
@@TheJustinMyrick christianlemanbrown@gmail.com
Hello Leman. May I enquire is the feeling of Flageolet Register very near to the sensation of hiccups?
I am still trying my best to comprehend more on Flageolet Register. Thank you very much for your enlightenment Leman. 😊🤝
Hmmm no not really hiccups are usually in chest or break into falsetto I think lol. Flageolet is more like a newborn puppy cry
@LemanDoesLogic Nice to read from you Leman. 😊
Yes Leman, I have just tried the hiccups again and normal hiccups do feel more in the chest.
However, if I apply the same hiccup sensations and use a closed vowel EEE on the hiccup. I discover a new type of sound emerges with timbre alike to the Flageolet Register.
Have you experienced that before as well Leman. 😊🤝
@@Open1Glitz83 I could see what you are saying could possibly be flageolet but to be honest I would have to hear it to know what voicing you are in. If you can make this sound and very quietly and easily go to around E5-C6 then yes that would be flageolet most likely.
Greetings Leman. Thank you very much for your reply.
There is one more doubt that I have upon Flageolet Register and Whistle Register, that is both of these squeaky registers can never go into full voice by themselves (unless they are blended with the chest voice) can't they? 😊🤝
@@Open1Glitz83 Using the term "full voice" can be confusing. Flageolet can be blended with other resonance chambers and actually be quite strong and resonant once you experiment enough
Do you feel you have more control over flageolet than whistle . Or do you feel flageolet notes are as same as easy as head voice notes to control? please help. I'm struggling to find flageolet but already have whistle.
When I ended up discovering my whistle notes , I lost my flageolet. Now I lost the whistle back for flageolet. Those training attempts got my vocal cords strained
Hey, i have a question, but it's totally ok if you won't read or won't come to answer this... thanks already for making the video in the first place! 💚
So my question is: As far as i understood, to create whistle notes, the throat has to be very relaxed and the tone needs to be very thin, quiet and light. To me that's kind of a contradiction, because to make the notes thin, i need to push a little which automatically unrelaxes my throat. When it stays telaxed, the note automatically gets more thick so there's just no sound. Where is my mistake or misunderstanding?
I slipped up in whistle register about four times (very shortly und not controlled), so i assume, my voice is capable of it, i just can't find the right technic to do it controlled /on purpose.
Thank you so much!
Well, for whistle notes especially the vocal folds actually have to come in quite a bit and it can feel uncomfortable at first, flageolet is a bit lower but feels pretty similar. I would continue trying to find a pitch you can continue hitting and trying to make this comfortable over and over and then slowly trying to control the pitch or match pitches on a piano.
When your hitting those insanely high notes do you feel your throat tightening?
Not at all, but that takes time and patience to get up there comfortably
Interesting, thank you :-) I was looking for a discussion of the difference between whistle and flageolet 👍
the boiled water is ready lol
Finally someone wise and honest to not follow the masses, thinking head voice is different from falsetto, they are the same, just how you deal with it.