@@southern842 well for one I was complimenting the company, not necessarily this optic. They make really nice high end optics also and have the most forward thinking Reticle designs on the market. They are pushing other companies to branch out and do the same
I agree about PA's prisms. I will always say until unseated - the PA Micro 1x is the most underrated optic I have or had. The eye relief is huge, its clear, can be magnified, and gets daylight bright. Although not as usable as a red dot - it is closest thing by far that isnt a red dot. If you have an astigmatism its an absolute no brainer
It's an incredible value. I've used it on an AR, and on a PCC for Steel Challenge. Haven't tried to put a magnifier behind it but it's so crisp and clear compared to a dot. The only thing that comes close IMO is the Holosun HS 403G ACSS, which is amazing with a 3x behind it, but not as good as the PA SLX 1x when run at 1x. This SLX 3x seems like it will be an improved version of the Holosun ACSS + 3x magnifier setup. I'd put a RDS on the prism and have a very lightweight, capable setup.
I have multiple red dots and even tried the EXPS3 and Vortex UGH2 holographics… yet the PA Microprism Illuminated Etch Reticle just WORKS and is clear and precise! The holographics are the WORST with astigmatism.
@@bthemedia Funny I can use any red dot, but the Eotech's look like mush to me. I agree on the PA micro. PA really knocked it out of the park with those.
Really want to like PA but I've gotten too many bad eggs. Their micro optic stopped working on my AK and I had to send back their 5x prism because the reticle inside was crooked (legit turned to the 11 o'clock position.)
@@harryazzole7814 Thanks for letting me know. I am going between the slx mag vs the mag from Holosun. with C_Does being a big fan of the holosun I really want his comparison between them.
@@Leviathan9173 that was my first setup prior to getting the SLX micro magnifier and I couldn't get them to play together. One or the other was always just barely out of enough diopter to have them focused properly. I returned it to Scheels and ordered the SLx the same day and it was almost perfect out of the box, hardly needed any adjustment
@@harryazzole7814 did you get the full size or the micro? I'm not looking to save any weight so the full size probably makes more sense with the longer eye relief but would still love the opinion
"You're probably watching this because you're dead set on a prism" Then I'm over here not currently in the market for more optics but just enjoying the show
@@domenik8339 Sorry, can you explain this a lil bit more? And also, what does this mean: "High quality prism optics are 90% as good as a red dot,". I don't know very much about prisms yet, but I'm very familiar with other optics and also Optics (like the physics). Why are high quality prisms not quite as good as red dots unless they have wide FOV and 2 or 3x mag?
@@rondobrondo Prisms have a narrow eye box compared to a red dot which can be a big deal when you need to be making shots quickly and up close, though prisms from primary arms have mostly rectified the issue. Prisms are 90% as good as red dot in this regard, and training with a prism will quickly phase out any eye box issues you'll run into, hence being 90% as good as a red dot up close. In particular, I'm a fan of the primary arms ACSS system, which has specially crafted BDCs and reticles for being both fast up close, and accurate at distance.
Damn dude, just stumbled upon your channel. Great review. I have this 3x in a 13.9 pin-weld I built and I love it. I was originally concerned with the speed I could use it for close up and once I figured it out I’m just as fast with this as I am with my Eotch and Aimpoints. Plus the fact that I have astigmatism, this optic is a godsend lol. I don’t always have my glasses on hand as I usually leave them in my range bag or car for driving at night. This is on my “go to” “shtf” bang stick. Loves this video and just subbed!! Looking forward to seeing more from your channel, thank you!
This is the one I settled on for my 14.5" 1.93" straight up riser. PA sells that separately. The etched reticle sold me on the PA prisms. I have a few. The diopter adjustment is great for my ageing but not old eyes.
I watched a video in which a rifle had a red dot as the primary aiming point mounted on the top rail and a micro prism was mounted on a canted mount to the side. The reason was that in 2 gun matches the majority of shots are up close with only a few shots at distance. The advancement in technology with micro prism scopes allows for such a setup. It's completely different than we are used to, but it makes sense for an urban environment.
The main issue is that the 3x is going to be used for the longer shot. Shots where youll want to be extra stable, which is harder with the rifle canted. For 3 Gun where speed is everything it can make sense. However for real life/urban/shtf etc I think a 3x magnifier is the way to go. You can even get the primary arms 3x micro, which is this without an etched reticle and illumination. They do have a unity ftc mount for it
The Gen II version of the GLX prism could be a real monster. If I were PA, I would design it to put even more direct pressure on Trijicon and the ACOG line than the current GLX 2x does. If they could improve the FOV on the Gen II and not ruin the excellent eye relief and general usability, they’d have a really compelling optic. It would probably have to get a little bigger, but it’d still be lighter than a 3x prism-plus red dot combo.
I completely agree. Is like to see more Philippino made scopes from them. And hopefully ones that will perform better then their current glx line up optically. Physically they are excellent. But the 3-18 left me wanting much much more.
@@CDOES I would even accept Chinese made on the Gen II as long as they keep the same nice glass that’s on the current GLX 2x. My working theory- which is *speculative* but does seem to fit with the observational data in your videos - is that the 2x is a “GLX” because PA had it spec’ed out with the highest tier of optical glass the Chinese OEM could provide, while the SLX microprisms are maybe one tier down? This would also explain why the Vortex Spitfire II looked better than the SLX 5x in your comparison - maybe Vortex went with the higher tier glass, while PA , at a similar price point, is choosing to offer a significantly more feature rich prism with better reticle, illumination, adjustments etc. (though the Vortex does beat it in red dot mounting options) Again, just spitballing. And even if they’re not literally the same OEMs I would think the trade offs would be essentially similar.
Needs a bigger FOV, improved more bold chevron and BDC. Keep it under 14oz, and under $500. Don't care if it is still China, but the Phillipines would be better. If Japanese, under $700.
@@hansblitz7770 agree with all of this. I’d also prefer a slightly thinner ‘horseshoe’ in the reticle. With the 2x’s strong illumination (which could also be bumped up by one more setting on the Gen II) it will still be plenty fast and prominent.
My only complaint with my 3x is my illumination knob is a bit stiff to use. Otherwise I would also pay more for an increase in glass quality to the GLX level.
Glx glass is so, so clear. Like the top of the line $2000 glass 10 years ago is what glx glass looks like right now. How they can even manage to have a higher tier is straight up voodoo magic to me.
Nice job, as always. I gave up the glx 2x for this 3x on my 300blk - this old man’s eyes needed just that little extra boost; and so far, very pleased. Now to see if it helps me get those 220gr 🎉subsonics out to 300 yds!
Great video and comparison! I think the GLX 2 is far superior. I have both and like the 2x the best. If you look at the SLX 3x it has a yellowish brown color on the edge.
I've tried running a ton of prisms on a carry handle and the 3x PA is by far the best. I would love just a smidge more eye relief, but it gives about as good as you can get before dealing with significant tradeoffs.
Here's a question and potential video topic. What optics would YOU use on YOUR go to war rifle? Based on your experience testing optics and making videos.
Great comparison. I would’ve liked to see what the 3X looks like on closer engaging targets. I know you speak about putting an offset red dot, but would’ve been a cool test.
I have the 1x and 3x. the 1x is 100% gtg. i love it. its on a lw carbine and its perfect.. the 3x.. i have mixed feelings on. its really good at 3x. but i always cant help but feel hindered by not having a 1x option, without a offset rd or something which i dont want to do. i like the light weight and small footprint of the micro 3x, but i love the capablity of an LPVO, but hate the weight and size!
Practice snap shooting with just a quick presentation with the 3x. Get it bright, get the eye far enough back to be out of the eyebox, scan with both eyes above the optic, then snap shoot by letting the illuminated reticle quickly index over the target, then break the shot. With practice, it's relatively fast.
I run the 5x on one of my setups with an offset red dot. I use the PA offset mount- not the piggyback. I really like shooting with that setup. Going 5-1,1-5 with a tilt is nice. One thing that I have heard/read that going from 1-5 is too much of shock when switching. Baloney. These same folks run and LPVO and throw it from 1-6 all the time.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that when you were sighted in on one of the center targets at 100yrds, that was an excellent visual comparison of FOV, because the viewer can pause the video and count the number of target stands. I assume that the spacing and width of the target stands is constant enough over time to make FOV comparisons. Since you're there filming anyway, it would be really cool if you get a pic or vid of each optic sighted in on a center target so we can count target stands to the left and right in the FOV. Anyway, keep up the good work Sir, you're definitely my go-to for all things optics
Competition world is starting to run these offset with 1x red dot in primary upright position on upper receiver. So reverse of what usually guys did traditionally where the prism was primary upright and red dot was offset or on top of prism.
I put a 3X on my Springfield Hellion along with an offset mount for a micro RDS. It works, but it’s not at all intuitive. At 25 yards and beyond the 3x is pretty easy to deal with. Training with it inside 25 starts to get more difficult. Especially in low light. My astigmatism is fairly severe. I can deal with most red dots, though some are better than others. Eotechs are out of the question for me. Maybe I’ll try a 2x. I struggle with the offset. I’ve trained with M4s and Aimpoints for 30 years and have found it easier to adapt to a bullpup than to an offset optic!
Primary arms offers a 12 o'clock mount in which to install a micro reflex site. This setup provides the best of both options for cqb and precision distance shooting.
I'd love to see side by comparison with Vector Optics Paragon 3x prism. It's probably more of a direct competitor to the SLx 3x microprism than any other optic presented here. Full disclosure: I owned both of those optics and ended up selling my SLx 3x Microprism. While Paragon lacks auto-life and some of the reticle features of ACSS, I think it has significantly better glass, field of view, eye box, smaller body shadow, and just overall more usable.
I put one of the new PA micro dots on top of a spitfire 5x. The RS10 has autolive and NV settings with the docter footprint, the venom lacks those features. I put a PA cantilever mount under it to get a half inch closer to my eye while simultaneously ditching the vortex mount. The setup goes hard on my 14.5
Those PA cantilever micro mounts are really handy - ironically, more so for mounting other makers’ microprisms (which use the Micro T2 footprint) than PA’s own prisms (which don’t).
Great video.. I like the 3x with a red dot in my video games .. 2x makes a great fighting optic if you only have one, but I'd rather make close shots with a red dot and farther shots with a 3x. 5x would require a specific application
I just wish the reticle was larger in the window. I have a 1x 9mm on my banshee and i have a 3x 7.62x39 i had on my galil ace then an AR and now it just sits in the safe waiting for possible use some day
Thank you for this. It would be nice if you are going to further compare the 2x GlX vs others to get a better comparison video if you can source it again. Thank you
Great and thorough video. I am very curious to see how this optic compares to the Trijicon LED TA110 at 3.5x. That particular optic with green crosshairs is reported from Trijicon to have a 22+ week lead time in production and I could not justify waiting 5+ months for that optic. I picked up the SLx 3x to test as I already have a holosun AEMS and Eotech XPS. The Primary Arms definitely is a high quality optic and comes with a lot of mounting options right out of the box. I agree with all of your findings but would love for Primary Arms to take advantage of their prisms and etched glass to put more vertical and horizontal cross hair lines for holdover and windage. That would help these optics really compete with Trijicon. They can even charge more for such a dream optic as the SLx is really affordable at $300+ retail, and I still wouldn't have sticker shock. Keep up the great and honest reviews!
I have a 3x MicroPrism and while I love its ruggedness and compactness, the short eye relief limits its use to basically an AR platform (I tried it on a MP5 and shotguns, no luck). If I feel I need an offset reflex sight for short ranges I’ll just use a LPVO with one or run a MAGNIFIER + Red Dot combo. Where I really think this prism optic could shine in on a very compact, very light .300 Blackout PDW. Just the prism and a flashlight to keep it slim. It won’t be a DMR but it’ll but it will be more than enough for shooting inside 300yd. It’s a compromise gun.
I had the 3x on my 8.3" 7.62x39 Galil Ace and I took it off not long after, just went to nice irons. The holds are useless with the tiny reticle and even mounted as far back as possible the relief was not good enough for me.
@@JNOSNOW yeah, no way the eye relief is 2.65” as the manufacturer claims. It’s closer to 1.5” for me. I now mounted it on a .22lr AR. I’m not mourning it in anything with more recoil with a optic that close to my eye.
I bought an athlon tsp3 just before the release of this one... Work great so far but the slx is interesting! Maybe one day after the tripod, new range finder and garmin xero 🤷
Another great review. Just bought one of these, this review didn’t do anything but confirm my decision! Thanks for exceptional content. Just curious, what camera set up are you running behind the optic? These videos look so crisp.
Could you do a comparison of the new 3x microprism vs the old 3x prism? wanted to see if there was a big difference in eye box, sharpness and field of view feel
Primary arms has an article on their site discussing the prisms and magnifiers. At least from their recommendation, you really only want to magnify the 1x. Cant remember the details but i believe they mentioned distortion with two sets of magnified glass
Side note I wish they would just make a poverty acog. 4x fixed with fiber optic illumination, huge field of view, just ditch the tritium imo, It's barely useful and adds a lot of unnecessary cost.
If you can, I would love for you to take a look at the Vector Continental 1-6x24i. It's a sub $500 LPVO that I think would be a good comparison against the PA Nova and the Vortex Razer.
i would rather buy an old german fix power zeiss hensoldt s&b 4x or 6x , than these modern prisms. have an old hensoldt 4x. awesome glass, wide field of wiev. all you need.
All prism optics seem to have poop eye relief, despite being fixed power, and it seems to me it would be simple to engineer a longer eye relief. So I always hesitate on prisms.
Question: what do you think of the full size 3x and 5x Gen III SLx prisms?? Any advantages of having a full size unit? I do not mind size/weight. Thanks in advance?
I like the 2x a lot and I have two. I'm debating on muh 30-30, if I should add a 3x on top or a 2x. Any thoughts? The eye relief on the 3x concerns me as to where I would need to mount it, the 2x seems like it would be far more user friendly in the field, except for those times when you would like a bit of magnification.
Would totally put the 2x on that lever gun. The longer eye relief (and longer optic body) will help you find a comfortable mounting solution. It actually struck me when I got mine that the GLX 2x would be perfect for a .30-30. (If you had the .300BLK version, I’d also be curious how well the BDC dots would line up for the .30-30 cartridge.)
Thanks C_D. I'm in the market and this content is very useful. Now I just need to find a mount for my SOCOM that will match the required eye relief. Would anyone happen to have a suggestion for my platform?
Question. I am looking for a rifle that can be used for close in HD all the way to maybe 400 meters. I would like a prism because of the sharp reticle and the no batteries. The x1 PA seems good for the close stuff, but for the range and precision I was thinking maybe adding a Juliet x4 with a QD mount that I would mostly leave off until I felt I would need/want it more. Do you think this would be a good option? I didn't want to go lpvo because of weight, and having this rifle's primary job of SHTF issues, I didn't want to have a higher magnification as mostly I would be shooting 0-200m, but then could add the magnifier for longer shots, recon, etc... rather than have a x3 or 5 prism with an offset. What do you think...am I on the right track for my SHTF rifle in my suburban environment that would be more fun for precision shooting with a magnifier that I could take off for keeping it light?
When ordering this. Is it necessary to emphasis if you want a green or red reticle? Or does it come with both options? I would also like to order CQ. optic to mount at the top
This one or cyclops gen 2 slx? What is more rugged (waterproof, shock proof etc) and suitable for hunting? I have a Henry Lever action. Pls let me know thank you.
Retched eticle!
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You don't know about that yet
@@CDOES if we send you a Arken ep8 1-8 will you review it as we cannot find a good review on that scope?
I'm so happy primary arms exists. They really help push innovation from other companies
Huh? These micro prisms already existed in Europe like long time baby
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ yeah but not high quality low cost options with modern features with an easy way to get them and a good warranty.
@@southern842 well for one I was complimenting the company, not necessarily this optic. They make really nice high end optics also and have the most forward thinking Reticle designs on the market. They are pushing other companies to branch out and do the same
Thank you for your service. Means alot
I agree about PA's prisms.
I will always say until unseated - the PA Micro 1x is the most underrated optic I have or had. The eye relief is huge, its clear, can be magnified, and gets daylight bright.
Although not as usable as a red dot - it is closest thing by far that isnt a red dot.
If you have an astigmatism its an absolute no brainer
It's an incredible value. I've used it on an AR, and on a PCC for Steel Challenge. Haven't tried to put a magnifier behind it but it's so crisp and clear compared to a dot. The only thing that comes close IMO is the Holosun HS 403G ACSS, which is amazing with a 3x behind it, but not as good as the PA SLX 1x when run at 1x.
This SLX 3x seems like it will be an improved version of the Holosun ACSS + 3x magnifier setup. I'd put a RDS on the prism and have a very lightweight, capable setup.
I have multiple red dots and even tried the EXPS3 and Vortex UGH2 holographics… yet the PA Microprism Illuminated Etch Reticle just WORKS and is clear and precise! The holographics are the WORST with astigmatism.
@@bthemedia Funny I can use any red dot, but the Eotech's look like mush to me. I agree on the PA micro. PA really knocked it out of the park with those.
Really want to like PA but I've gotten too many bad eggs. Their micro optic stopped working on my AK and I had to send back their 5x prism because the reticle inside was crooked (legit turned to the 11 o'clock position.)
eotechs are etched reticles its exactly the same as the PA lmfao
PA is killing it with their recent offerings. waiting for C_Does opinions on their Magnifiers and how they work with the 1x.
I second this motion!
I've had the PA 1x prism with the 3x SLX magnifier and it's one of the best God damn setups you can get for the money.
@@harryazzole7814 Thanks for letting me know. I am going between the slx mag vs the mag from Holosun. with C_Does being a big fan of the holosun I really want his comparison between them.
@@Leviathan9173 that was my first setup prior to getting the SLX micro magnifier and I couldn't get them to play together. One or the other was always just barely out of enough diopter to have them focused properly. I returned it to Scheels and ordered the SLx the same day and it was almost perfect out of the box, hardly needed any adjustment
@@harryazzole7814 did you get the full size or the micro? I'm not looking to save any weight so the full size probably makes more sense with the longer eye relief but would still love the opinion
"You're probably watching this because you're dead set on a prism"
Then I'm over here not currently in the market for more optics but just enjoying the show
@@domenik8339 Sorry, can you explain this a lil bit more? And also, what does this mean: "High quality prism optics are 90% as good as a red dot,". I don't know very much about prisms yet, but I'm very familiar with other optics and also Optics (like the physics). Why are high quality prisms not quite as good as red dots unless they have wide FOV and 2 or 3x mag?
@@rondobrondo Prisms have a narrow eye box compared to a red dot which can be a big deal when you need to be making shots quickly and up close, though prisms from primary arms have mostly rectified the issue. Prisms are 90% as good as red dot in this regard, and training with a prism will quickly phase out any eye box issues you'll run into, hence being 90% as good as a red dot up close.
In particular, I'm a fan of the primary arms ACSS system, which has specially crafted BDCs and reticles for being both fast up close, and accurate at distance.
I would gladly pay more for this with GL glass. It's such a great optic and has the potential to be even better.
Microprism pro would be nice
Damn dude, just stumbled upon your channel. Great review. I have this 3x in a 13.9 pin-weld I built and I love it. I was originally concerned with the speed I could use it for close up and once I figured it out I’m just as fast with this as I am with my Eotch and Aimpoints. Plus the fact that I have astigmatism, this optic is a godsend lol. I don’t always have my glasses on hand as I usually leave them in my range bag or car for driving at night. This is on my “go to” “shtf” bang stick. Loves this video and just subbed!! Looking forward to seeing more from your channel, thank you!
Much obliged mate! Glad to hear about someone else having great success with it
This is the one I settled on for my 14.5" 1.93" straight up riser. PA sells that separately. The etched reticle sold me on the PA prisms. I have a few. The diopter adjustment is great for my ageing but not old eyes.
I watched a video in which a rifle had a red dot as the primary aiming point mounted on the top rail and a micro prism was mounted on a canted mount to the side. The reason was that in 2 gun matches the majority of shots are up close with only a few shots at distance. The advancement in technology with micro prism scopes allows for such a setup. It's completely different than we are used to, but it makes sense for an urban environment.
For anyone interested it's titled "Emerging optic configuration: Offsetting a 3x Prism, the future is now!".
The main issue is that the 3x is going to be used for the longer shot. Shots where youll want to be extra stable, which is harder with the rifle canted. For 3 Gun where speed is everything it can make sense. However for real life/urban/shtf etc I think a 3x magnifier is the way to go. You can even get the primary arms 3x micro, which is this without an etched reticle and illumination. They do have a unity ftc mount for it
Primary arms has earned all of my tactical optic business, have 3 of their optics and they work as advertised, track 100%
The Gen II version of the GLX prism could be a real monster. If I were PA, I would design it to put even more direct pressure on Trijicon and the ACOG line than the current GLX 2x does.
If they could improve the FOV on the Gen II and not ruin the excellent eye relief and general usability, they’d have a really compelling optic. It would probably have to get a little bigger, but it’d still be lighter than a 3x prism-plus red dot combo.
I completely agree. Is like to see more Philippino made scopes from them. And hopefully ones that will perform better then their current glx line up optically. Physically they are excellent. But the 3-18 left me wanting much much more.
@@CDOES I would even accept Chinese made on the Gen II as long as they keep the same nice glass that’s on the current GLX 2x.
My working theory- which is *speculative* but does seem to fit with the observational data in your videos - is that the 2x is a “GLX” because PA had it spec’ed out with the highest tier of optical glass the Chinese OEM could provide, while the SLX microprisms are maybe one tier down? This would also explain why the Vortex Spitfire II looked better than the SLX 5x in your comparison - maybe Vortex went with the higher tier glass, while PA , at a similar price point, is choosing to offer a significantly more feature rich prism with better reticle, illumination, adjustments etc. (though the Vortex does beat it in red dot mounting options)
Again, just spitballing. And even if they’re not literally the same OEMs I would think the trade offs would be essentially similar.
Needs a bigger FOV, improved more bold chevron and BDC.
Keep it under 14oz, and under $500.
Don't care if it is still China, but the Phillipines would be better.
If Japanese, under $700.
@@hansblitz7770 agree with all of this.
I’d also prefer a slightly thinner ‘horseshoe’ in the reticle. With the 2x’s strong illumination (which could also be bumped up by one more setting on the Gen II) it will still be plenty fast and prominent.
I’m looking for a 4x prism as a direct acog competitor. I think it’s the best magnification for my purposes to be honest.
I hope for a GLx 4x for ~$500.
With an integrated red dot mount … 🍻
The Vector 4x might be what you're looking for
Ew, no.
Vector.
Your channel is by far has the best optic reviews. Keep up the great work.
Thnx.for the review.
My only complaint with my 3x is my illumination knob is a bit stiff to use. Otherwise I would also pay more for an increase in glass quality to the GLX level.
Glx glass is so, so clear. Like the top of the line $2000 glass 10 years ago is what glx glass looks like right now. How they can even manage to have a higher tier is straight up voodoo magic to me.
Nice job, as always. I gave up the glx 2x for this 3x on my 300blk - this old man’s eyes needed just that little extra boost; and so far, very pleased. Now to see if it helps me get those 220gr 🎉subsonics out to 300 yds!
I love my 3x PA slx! Got the 35 degree microdot mount for it and it’s great for my pig hunting application
Great video and comparison! I think the GLX 2 is far superior. I have both and like the 2x the best. If you look at the SLX 3x it has a yellowish brown color on the edge.
I've tried running a ton of prisms on a carry handle and the 3x PA is by far the best. I would love just a smidge more eye relief, but it gives about as good as you can get before dealing with significant tradeoffs.
This leads to ask… what is C_Does’ current go-to-boog sighting system? Future video idea?
Here's a question and potential video topic. What optics would YOU use on YOUR go to war rifle? Based on your experience testing optics and making videos.
Not these! Acog/vcog are great choices. Durable etched reticles. What would you use?
The 1 x is superior. It would be a great candidate.
Great comparison. I would’ve liked to see what the 3X looks like on closer engaging targets. I know you speak about putting an offset red dot, but would’ve been a cool test.
I really appreciate the detail you went into for this review. Thanks!
Happy to help
I have the 1x and 3x. the 1x is 100% gtg. i love it. its on a lw carbine and its perfect.. the 3x.. i have mixed feelings on. its really good at 3x. but i always cant help but feel hindered by not having a 1x option, without a offset rd or something which i dont want to do. i like the light weight and small footprint of the micro 3x, but i love the capablity of an LPVO, but hate the weight and size!
Practice snap shooting with just a quick presentation with the 3x.
Get it bright, get the eye far enough back to be out of the eyebox, scan with both eyes above the optic, then snap shoot by letting the illuminated reticle quickly index over the target, then break the shot.
With practice, it's relatively fast.
Great optic. Sure wish they made it in GLX. Would gladly pay more for the better glass.
Mine has been great to me but I'm thinking of selling for the 5x glad to see this video come out
I run the 5x on one of my setups with an offset red dot. I use the PA offset mount- not the piggyback.
I really like shooting with that setup. Going 5-1,1-5 with a tilt is nice.
One thing that I have heard/read that going from 1-5 is too much of shock when switching. Baloney. These same folks run and LPVO and throw it from 1-6 all the time.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that when you were sighted in on one of the center targets at 100yrds, that was an excellent visual comparison of FOV, because the viewer can pause the video and count the number of target stands. I assume that the spacing and width of the target stands is constant enough over time to make FOV comparisons. Since you're there filming anyway, it would be really cool if you get a pic or vid of each optic sighted in on a center target so we can count target stands to the left and right in the FOV. Anyway, keep up the good work Sir, you're definitely my go-to for all things optics
Competition world is starting to run these offset with 1x red dot in primary upright position on upper receiver. So reverse of what usually guys did traditionally where the prism was primary upright and red dot was offset or on top of prism.
PS - love the red and yellow text over the optic views! Thank you! 😊 🙏
I put a 3X on my Springfield Hellion along with an offset mount for a micro RDS. It works, but it’s not at all intuitive. At 25 yards and beyond the 3x is pretty easy to deal with. Training with it inside 25 starts to get more difficult. Especially in low light. My astigmatism is fairly severe. I can deal with most red dots, though some are better than others. Eotechs are out of the question for me. Maybe I’ll try a 2x. I struggle with the offset. I’ve trained with M4s and Aimpoints for 30 years and have found it easier to adapt to a bullpup than to an offset optic!
Primary arms offers a 12 o'clock mount in which to install a micro reflex site.
This setup provides the best of both options for cqb and precision distance shooting.
Been thinking about getting one of these so good to see your review of this one.
I'd love to see side by comparison with Vector Optics Paragon 3x prism. It's probably more of a direct competitor to the SLx 3x microprism than any other optic presented here.
Full disclosure: I owned both of those optics and ended up selling my SLx 3x Microprism. While Paragon lacks auto-life and some of the reticle features of ACSS, I think it has significantly better glass, field of view, eye box, smaller body shadow, and just overall more usable.
Also the hawk optics prisms that just came out.
@@michaelnyden8056 hmm I didn't even know about that one
Paragon 3x glass is not as clear as SLx 3x, but eye box is much better.
@@BigSmartArmed That wasn't my experience. I found Paragon transmitting more light and having much less of a fuzzy edge than SLx does.
Bought the 2x based on your recommendation. Love it. It's on an AK, so the generous eye relief is helpful.
I put one of the new PA micro dots on top of a spitfire 5x. The RS10 has autolive and NV settings with the docter footprint, the venom lacks those features. I put a PA cantilever mount under it to get a half inch closer to my eye while simultaneously ditching the vortex mount. The setup goes hard on my 14.5
Those PA cantilever micro mounts are really handy - ironically, more so for mounting other makers’ microprisms (which use the Micro T2 footprint) than PA’s own prisms (which don’t).
@@FMDad-dm5qomy thought exactly
Awesome review thank you.
So for a one and done optic…. GLX!?!
Great video.. I like the 3x with a red dot in my video games .. 2x makes a great fighting optic if you only have one, but I'd rather make close shots with a red dot and farther shots with a 3x. 5x would require a specific application
I just wish the reticle was larger in the window. I have a 1x 9mm on my banshee and i have a 3x 7.62x39 i had on my galil ace then an AR and now it just sits in the safe waiting for possible use some day
Been running the 3x for about 6 months now and its been excellent, especially for my lightweight 13.7 build.
Thank you for this. It would be nice if you are going to further compare the 2x GlX vs others to get a better comparison video if you can source it again. Thank you
Absolutely great review, thanks
Great content C_Does
Best optics comparison channel! Thank you very much fpr your Work! 👌
The green version illuminates evenly for mine. Absolutely love it
Magnification changed the game for marines. The 3x with its short comings is very good still
I’m really interested in this one.
I snatched up a couple of the 2.5X prisms they discontinued at a can't say no price.
Great and thorough video. I am very curious to see how this optic compares to the Trijicon LED TA110 at 3.5x. That particular optic with green crosshairs is reported from Trijicon to have a 22+ week lead time in production and I could not justify waiting 5+ months for that optic. I picked up the SLx 3x to test as I already have a holosun AEMS and Eotech XPS. The Primary Arms definitely is a high quality optic and comes with a lot of mounting options right out of the box. I agree with all of your findings but would love for Primary Arms to take advantage of their prisms and etched glass to put more vertical and horizontal cross hair lines for holdover and windage. That would help these optics really compete with Trijicon. They can even charge more for such a dream optic as the SLx is really affordable at $300+ retail, and I still wouldn't have sticker shock. Keep up the great and honest reviews!
I have a 3x MicroPrism and while I love its ruggedness and compactness, the short eye relief limits its use to basically an AR platform (I tried it on a MP5 and shotguns, no luck).
If I feel I need an offset reflex sight for short ranges I’ll just use a LPVO with one or run a MAGNIFIER + Red Dot combo.
Where I really think this prism optic could shine in on a very compact, very light .300 Blackout PDW. Just the prism and a flashlight to keep it slim. It won’t be a DMR but it’ll but it will be more than enough for shooting inside 300yd. It’s a compromise gun.
I had the 3x on my 8.3" 7.62x39 Galil Ace and I took it off not long after, just went to nice irons. The holds are useless with the tiny reticle and even mounted as far back as possible the relief was not good enough for me.
@@JNOSNOW yeah, no way the eye relief is 2.65” as the manufacturer claims. It’s closer to 1.5” for me. I now mounted it on a .22lr AR. I’m not mourning it in anything with more recoil with a optic that close to my eye.
another excellent optic review
I just learned so much from this video. Great job. You need a job in the firearms industry.
I own Vortex 3x HD prism, and its reticle is much smaller and harder to see compared to this PA
17 mm objective, small exit pupil, not a combat optic. Needs a 24 mm objective.
Just found your channel and love your reviews!
Primary Arms let's those with astigmatism be part of the red dot club. Absolutely love mine
Great video.
Can you take a look at the Holosun 507comp big window optic next?
I have the slx 3x, not really a fan of the chevron. I would prefer if it was just a dot.
I was lucky enough to get a BLEM version of this scope. I only paid a skootch under 200 bucks. It's pretty permanently attached to one of my AR's.
It's the best. Wait for often 12% off sales
Would you get the PA 3x or get the PA 1X and put a PA 3X magnifier behind it? I'm shooting a PCC, 150yds or less.
Would like to know as well...
I bought an athlon tsp3 just before the release of this one... Work great so far but the slx is interesting! Maybe one day after the tripod, new range finder and garmin xero 🤷
Do I get this right: it is a magnified optic that can be used with NVGs???
Well done. Thank you
Another great review. Just bought one of these, this review didn’t do anything but confirm my decision! Thanks for exceptional content. Just curious, what camera set up are you running behind the optic?
These videos look so crisp.
Could you do a comparison of the new 3x microprism vs the old 3x prism? wanted to see if there was a big difference in eye box, sharpness and field of view feel
I don’t like how the illumination isn’t uniform until level 7-8. Other than that, it’s great!
I love mine, the green reticle illums kinda unevenly though. I also wish it looked less goofy, why do acogs have to look so sexy?
I've had this for a while but sadly haven't used as much.im happy with the choice but can see other good options out there.
Why is the slx not "battle ready"? Seems solid
X4 seems like the best of both world.
If I was in the US I would ship you my Swampfox Trihawk so you can see how my favorite 3X prism performs. Please check that one out!
P arms be cutting them checks for your boy
How well would the GLX 2x work with the Monstrum 2x forward magnifier? switching between 2x and 4x would be nice
Primary arms has an article on their site discussing the prisms and magnifiers. At least from their recommendation, you really only want to magnify the 1x. Cant remember the details but i believe they mentioned distortion with two sets of magnified glass
Side note I wish they would just make a poverty acog. 4x fixed with fiber optic illumination, huge field of view, just ditch the tritium imo, It's barely useful and adds a lot of unnecessary cost.
I agree they should start making a run straight at the ACOG. Help shake Trijicon out of its govt-fed complacency.
If you can, I would love for you to take a look at the Vector Continental 1-6x24i. It's a sub $500 LPVO that I think would be a good comparison against the PA Nova and the Vortex Razer.
You are not the first person to recommend that
I have one.
I'll mail it for the show, for science.
I have the 1X on a PCC and the 3X on order for a light weight AR.
Finally, something I can afford 😂
Excellent presentation; thank you!
DO IT
@@CDOES Did.
Thanks.
i would rather buy an old german fix power zeiss hensoldt s&b 4x or 6x , than these modern prisms. have an old hensoldt 4x. awesome glass, wide field of wiev. all you need.
Prisms are the way.
Thank you for this video! Super interested in these. By the way, which model of Seiko are you wearing?
8:08 “retched eticle” - I’m gonna be saying that
i honestly just wish for a 2.5x
You said that you would pick another type of batle optic. What optic would you pick?
Thanks for the excellent review
Steiner t332 is $499. Is that the goto war option?
All prism optics seem to have poop eye relief, despite being fixed power, and it seems to me it would be simple to engineer a longer eye relief. So I always hesitate on prisms.
The 3x is a fixed power correct?
Have you tested & reviewed their new magnifier?
Question: what do you think of the full size 3x and 5x Gen III SLx prisms?? Any advantages of having a full size unit? I do not mind size/weight.
Thanks in advance?
I like the 2x a lot and I have two. I'm debating on muh 30-30, if I should add a 3x on top or a 2x. Any thoughts? The eye relief on the 3x concerns me as to where I would need to mount it, the 2x seems like it would be far more user friendly in the field, except for those times when you would like a bit of magnification.
Would totally put the 2x on that lever gun. The longer eye relief (and longer optic body) will help you find a comfortable mounting solution.
It actually struck me when I got mine that the GLX 2x would be perfect for a .30-30. (If you had the .300BLK version, I’d also be curious how well the BDC dots would line up for the .30-30 cartridge.)
Can you shoot 3X with both eyes open? did your brain gets confused?
Thanks C_D. I'm in the market and this content is very useful. Now I just need to find a mount for my SOCOM that will match the required eye relief. Would anyone happen to have a suggestion for my platform?
U wouldnt use this for a SHTF optic setup???
What on earth would u run then??. This is EMP proof.
Question. I am looking for a rifle that can be used for close in HD all the way to maybe 400 meters. I would like a prism because of the sharp reticle and the no batteries. The x1 PA seems good for the close stuff, but for the range and precision I was thinking maybe adding a Juliet x4 with a QD mount that I would mostly leave off until I felt I would need/want it more. Do you think this would be a good option? I didn't want to go lpvo because of weight, and having this rifle's primary job of SHTF issues, I didn't want to have a higher magnification as mostly I would be shooting 0-200m, but then could add the magnifier for longer shots, recon, etc... rather than have a x3 or 5 prism with an offset. What do you think...am I on the right track for my SHTF rifle in my suburban environment that would be more fun for precision shooting with a magnifier that I could take off for keeping it light?
Hey C_Does, any comments on the Primary Arms SLx 3X with the Griffin X MIL reticle?
It would be like this, with a different reticle. I can't say which would be better for you. Only you can.
When ordering this. Is it necessary to emphasis if you want a green or red reticle? Or does it come with both options? I would also like to order CQ. optic to mount at the top
Btw , my .458 can handle the recoil of the Swampfox Trihawk.
What’s your recommendation on 100-200 yards? 2x, or 3x?
@@tjblackbauer9997 id prefer a 2x but even a good 3x would be great. I've rocked both. It's just a matter of personal preference.
make a video talking about meprolight foresight
Nice
This one or cyclops gen 2 slx? What is more rugged (waterproof, shock proof etc) and suitable for hunting? I have a Henry Lever action. Pls let me know thank you.
Do you think the 3x PA prism would work with and A2 stock, or would eye relief be too far away?
300 blackout compatible?