@@ryanwilliams6526 I agree - they can be a real pain if they get clogged. The Italian tune-up method works well, as it allows the DPF to heat up and properly burn off all the crap. I've driven diesel cars for about 15 years, but got tired of fixing the errors around the whole emissions system. Back to driving a naturally aspirated petrol engine now.
@@ryanwilliams6526 honestly, no, dpf's are waaaaaay less of a pain in the ass than EGR Systems, this comes from someone who exclusively works on diesels, we rarely get clogged DPF's, but we see clogged intakes and EGR systems all the time.
@@aaaabababa That's a fair point. It's just that, in my experience, EGR valves aren't usually too bad of a job to clean or replace when they become clogged, but DPFs are a lot bigger of a job. Also, it means that you can't really have a diesel if you do short journeys anymore, as it will certainly get clogged. I fail to see the environmental benefits of DPFs too, since all they do is collect up the harmful particles, and then waste tons of diesel getting the engine hot, just to release them all straight into the environment anyway.
Brilliant result. Bella lives on, and drives like she should. Bravo to Lucas Oils EGR and Turbo Cleaner and your good selves. Also, to the mobile mechanic for pointing the finger to the problem.
Having owned Diesels for year's the best thing for them is a good blowout on the Motorway and the worst thing you can do is short runs especially in winter. I've seen Diesels that have been used mainly around town fail there MOT,s on excessive emissions and after being given a blast up the motorway 🛣 they then fly thru the test.😉😊👍👍👍
I had a Zafira turbo diesel run away on me once, when the turbo oil seals failed... it was indeed quite frightening at first but I was able to drop it in to top gear, drop the clutch and stand hard on the brakes, which killed it. Then there was just the matter of waiting 2 hours to recover me from just outside Basingstoke. Fortunately it was a company car, and was soon fixed, and eventually racked up 250k miles before being sold!
I have actually done a full cleaning of the entire intake system of my 320d and what you find is dusty carbon (sooth) caked to the EGR valve, the intake manifold will have a coating of a tarry substance made of sooth(from EGR)+oil (from the sump ventilation). The intake ports and valves will also have a cake of carbon on them. After fixing all that i have sworn to never buy a diesel car again. Clean diesels don't exist. (Regardless of what VW used to claim.)
You shaking the Berlingo to mix the magic juice with the diesel reminded me of an anecdote I once heard when working for major oil company, then one of The Seven Sisters. They'd had a substantial order for a particular blend of oil, but the blending machine was out of order. So they put the ingredients in the right quantities in a tank truck and drove it a few times round the refinery to blend it, then delivered it to the customer. I can not guarantee that it was a true story, but I could well imagine that it was.
A bit like running a two stroke M/C to mix the oil and petrol after parked up for a time. A neighbour was often spotted shaking his BSA Bantam on a winter morning when his car wouldn't start.
Another anecdote, same oil company as above, but no longer related to this video: They once built a refinery that had one single access road, somewhere in Greece. With a railway bridge over the access road. All went well until the first tanker came to pick up its load. But it would not fit under the railway bridge. So they had to dig out the road under the railway bridge before they could ship products from the refinery.
Reminds me of winding my son when he was a baby and crying his eyes out. After a bit of patting on the back over my shoulder, suddenly you would get a massive burp and he'd be fast asleep.
Surely Miss Hubnut is too young to remember Vision On? In case you're wondering, the music 'Left Bank Two' was used as the intro to the viewer gallery section.
Used a can of Turbo/EGR valve cleaner on my old Volvo C30 with the 2.0 hdi engine. It said hold the revs at 1500rom when using the spray. Had a big improvement.
So a scary diesel runaway redline from death did the trick! What I suggest whilst you have the injector cleaner in, is to the drive Bella like you stole her, really redline the engine and get those revs up, because diesel is notorious for producing particulates Given the age of Bella, it's likely that carbon build up in the EGR, plus injectors being a little clogged too that the engine was starved of fuel and air meaning it was missing The injector cleaner will clean the injectors and also the combustion chambers too, you may experience additional black smoke whilst that is occurring, I would perform an additional EGR cleaning after the injector cleaning has occurred, to remove any additional deposits that may come from the combustion chambers But I'm glad Bella is better than ever, YAY FOR BELLA!! ❤
To stop EGR issues, make sure you do more frequent oil changes. I can tell you from experience, sister's car, that 10k is far too long between changes.
I was sceptical initially but that really seems to have done the trick. Maybe spaying into the intake while holding a fast idle perhaps to avoid future run away scenarios? Thanks for the upload Ian
It is great that it worked for you. You must really be relieved that the engine is now working so well. It is likely no different than when I have removed a PCV from a gas engine and cleaned it out with degreaser. The issue is the build up of crud inside that stops it from functioning properly. It is nice that you were able to clean it without removing it. Glad there is a cleaner that actually does what it claims. Enjoy your new car!
Hi HubNut, I watched this video after causing engine runaway to my 2012 Volkswagen diesel Caddy by pouring way too much EGR cleaner into the intake at once. It was so scary. I wanted to chunder from anxiety! Watching your video while I left the car idle for 20 mins to slowly (and safely!) chug through the remaining liquid gave me some relief knowing I didn't have a unique experience... and after resetting the battery and leaving the car overnight, this morning I drove it with no engine light or limp mode! Lots of horrible smoke from the exhaust came out which I was quite chuffed to see, as I was quoted AUD$1200 to have the EGR replaced which I really wanted to avoid. Loved your video and your humour. I will be sure to add it to the cleaner fuel tank after my next oil change like you have in your follow-up video. Thank you! From Australia 😄
Never used egr cleaner but I have used injector cleaner on a 1994 tractor that was blowing black smoke and was hard starting. It worked so well that I did not change the injectors and since then put some in my four year old Mitsubishi L200 (which did not blow smoke) but it improved the running so much that I use it every ten tanks or so, the engine runs smoother and quieter using it, I have since used it on a chinese generator set that was blowing black smoke from new and it stopped that as well. So yes injector cleaner works.
Sounds like the egr valve was either stuck partially open or wasn't fully closing, so introducing exhaust gas to the inlet when it shouldn't! I can strongly recommend a diesel engine cleaner, JLM extreme clean. Use that every 6 months and it will clean and prevent accumulation of carbon and fuel residue throughout the intake, exhaust,fuel system and turbo, it really works well.
I hate to be a sceptic but I think it’s the tank additive that’s given you the better running. I’ve gone through both processes independently on my VW. When I removed the EGR oily crud was 5mm thick all round, I cleaned it out by hand as the intake spray cleaner barely touched it but realised the turbo and intake valves were still going to be coated. Using tank additive does help give smother running and better economy. Thanks for another entertaining video, folks.🙂
Modern diesel intake manifolds often get coked up with carbon from the EGR unless they do long journeys. Your potions seemed to have done the trick! Well done! Love the Debbie Maggie demos of the product!
So nice to come home late at night and be able to relax to this video after an intense week where I have had to take care of moving my mum home from temporary housing and also oversee psykiatric care for my brother while also trying to find a new job. Spending some time in the Hubnutverse is a much welcomed break. Great to see Bella back to fully functioning again, greetings from Denmark and my Ruthy the Wagon R+ and Claus the VW Caddy ;-)
That severe knocking when the stuff is squirted in really makes my "mechanical sympathies" gland twitch! A horrible noise! Amazing result, glad its improved so drastically
Nice one Ian and Carly. the planets in the constellation aligned and with some squirts of the magic potion and the fairy dust seems to have done the job with a bang. It's great to see Bella out and about on the road without the tummy trouble following the 'event' of terror. Many thanks for sharing.
Excellent video as usual, I once witnessed a runaway on a Scania bin lorry, evacuated the workshop and waited until it blew to bits....that was scary 😮😮
I saw a daf 95 do the same but took a brave pill got the intake off covered in oil and blocked the intake which stopped the engine. This is why ASV valves are fitted to modern diesels
When I bought my berlingo 1.6 diesel it refused to start a couple of times an eventually completely cut out at a t junction. Turns out it was the egr valve, got it replaced due to the severity of the breakdown and not had any problems since
In your short video of Bella this morning, i literally thought you had miss-fuelled her and she was trying to run on petrol. Now i know why! Going forward it may be worth regularly putting an additive in the tank or filling with premium fuel once in a while.
Some advice I found when I had my first Fiat Multipla diesel in 2002 was to drive the car like a petrol. Use plenty of revs setting off and always use the engine quite hard by making sure it revs. This beds the engine in better, protects the dual mass flywheel and does a better joke of keeping the EGR clear. So many people drive a diesel like a tractor, then complain when they have problems related with judder and poor breathing.
What a relief guys - at last it seems like a bit of good fortune, fingers crossed it is now cured of it's bucking -buck and miss ( to be honest I had to rewind and check as I thought you were a bit sweaty !)
I can absolutely highly recommend you use millers eco max. Every 3 months to keep your engine running sweet as a nut. My 160 000 miles shogun loves it and has the same emissions it was born with.
I've always done that with a few revs held on the engine, it stops that awful bogging down noise and it takes the cleaner through the system, rather than letting it sit as yours did.
On the basis that most of the solvent ought to get burnt going through the engine, before it gets to the EGR, I'm amazed that this works. Something new learnt.
The problem with the EGR on diesels is that the soot coming from the exhaust is mixed with the fine oil mist coming up the intake. This oil usually comes from the PCV - diesels have a lot of blowby that is returned in the intake airstream. Some have oil separators in the PCV, some don’t. Also, turbo seals might leak. Anyway, the oil mixed with soot makes for a nasty sludge that gets deposited on the EGR and in the intake.
Good job! i have only had petroll engined cars but for years i have used Redex Injector and fuel ine additive, excellent product, i just put a half a bottle into a full tank every now and then ,well worth doing.
UUUmmmmm Ian, maybe you should just leave it to Miss Hubnut , fair play she has some knowledge .Seems to know more every week , and so keen .Really make a great duo , seem to bounce off each other really well .Great Vid as usual .
Hi guys. I had a citroen guy recommend Cataclean8 for my c4 after it started throwing up faults for egr, lambda sensors etc. Worked miracles, seriously, both the fuel line in to the exhaust, including the combustion Chambers. Pricy at £18. Its a tank additive. But saved me from having to replace my egr, lambda sensors and catalytic converter! They do a petrol and diesel version, and it's the best of anything I have tried.
I've not held much store in gunks and potions for cars but I'm well pleased for you that its done the business! Our neighbours car runaway several years ago, it is very unnerving!
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but other brands or EGR/Intake cleaner say to apply acceleration when spraying in which stops the pooling in the pipe work as it applys suction into the system. Thanks for sharing because EGRs are usually a pain to get to. ✌
The lucas egr and turbo cleaner is brilliant stuff tried it on a clio once it ran alright after that gonna try in on my Mondeo ST estate because egr code has come on hopefully it cleans it and see what happens 😉
Succes 🎉! Well done , for now!? Perhaps repeat the treatment in a while!? And miss Hubnut deserves an intence kiss of life! After that near death experience 😵!!! 😂😂😂 love you guys! 🏴 🇳🇱
Glad Bella seems to be better, the EGR must have been a bit dirty / sticky, rather than absolutely caked in carbon, as even soaking in a bucket of petrol doesn't always work, without manual intervention, on really coked up parts.
I removed the EGR cooler and whole EGR system just a couple of days ago, because I had to do it to get access for changing the thermostat and water pump om my BMW. Took the opportunity to clean them and the intake pretty thoroughly with a vacuum cleaner and scraper tool. Didnt really make a difference that I could tell though, I think it wasnt all that bad beforehand, just a millimeter of carbon buildup along the edges or so. I guess some regular high speed autobahn driving and relatively low milage of the car was to my benefit.
Its great that you have identified the cause of issues. I would be looking at taking the intake off and giving it a complete clean out bet its suffocating.
You should always build your revs in a diesel, changing to fourth gear at 25 mph is your problem, especially with an already sooty intake. Take all the intake off as well as the egr valve & give it a good decoke as it'll just keep coming back
A diesel is meant to lug. These don't really like going beyond 3000rpm anyway. If they didn't think they should be pulling at 1500rpm, they could quite easily prevent them from doing so.
@@HubNut yes I fully agree but this concept is challenged on your diesel engine because of the add on of the egr & also the dpf. These anti breathing systems choke a diesel engine & as such you have to find it's happy spot in its power band. Older diesel engines without a turbo are slow but have loads of torque, newer diesels with turbo's still have the torque but you have to be in the rev band for the turbo to operate, add the egr to the equation & you're using second hand dirty air that again operates at a certain rev band. Now,put the dpf on you need to operate at a higher rev band to generate the heat so the regen can perform. Constant driving at low revs is the best for mpg but you have to attain the speed first as you put undue stress on the cranks. Put all this with the way they build modern engines well it's a recipe for failure, especially with heat pressed cranks. They stopped making decent diesels in the late 90s IMHO 👍 Ps when a bureaucrat is telling us how to build engines we are doomed 😂
I'd still look to taking the EGR out and properly cleaning it when time allows. these sprays and potions will only work for so long before it happens again. the spray would only clean a little bit of the EGR.
I've used a similar EGR cleaner on my 2L Vivaro, despite being told by mechanics that I was throwing away my money. However, it worked! Despite my feeling as though I was killing the engine with every squirt. At about the same time, I used some DPF cleaner/maintenance fluid in the fuel as I have no idea if my van ever does it's own DPF regens or not. It's like giving salbutamol to someone having an asthma attack!
Great result !, very few people understand that common rail diesels of this era (DPF & EGR) need to be worked very very hard for really long periods if you want them to stay healthy, I have had similar results spending an hour on the motorway in third gear at 3000 rpm, conversely pootling around for months on end usually causes big problems. Great that the cleaner worked though.
When the car is rocking - don't come knocking
I also perfer my Belingos shaken not stirred.
This is classic HubNut, filmed on a phone doing slightly dangerous sh*t 😂...
Those EGR valves can be an absolute nightmare - really pleased you have got it sorted for relatively little outlay.
Love the diesels of this period
They're still nowhere near as bad as Diesel Particulate Filters. They are one of the stupidest things they've ever fitted to a car.
@@ryanwilliams6526 I agree - they can be a real pain if they get clogged. The Italian tune-up method works well, as it allows the DPF to heat up and properly burn off all the crap. I've driven diesel cars for about 15 years, but got tired of fixing the errors around the whole emissions system. Back to driving a naturally aspirated petrol engine now.
@@ryanwilliams6526 honestly, no, dpf's are waaaaaay less of a pain in the ass than EGR Systems, this comes from someone who exclusively works on diesels, we rarely get clogged DPF's, but we see clogged intakes and EGR systems all the time.
@@aaaabababa That's a fair point.
It's just that, in my experience, EGR valves aren't usually too bad of a job to clean or replace when they become clogged, but DPFs are a lot bigger of a job.
Also, it means that you can't really have a diesel if you do short journeys anymore, as it will certainly get clogged.
I fail to see the environmental benefits of DPFs too, since all they do is collect up the harmful particles, and then waste tons of diesel getting the engine hot, just to release them all straight into the environment anyway.
Brilliant result. Bella lives on, and drives like she should. Bravo to Lucas Oils EGR and Turbo Cleaner and your good selves. Also, to the mobile mechanic for pointing the finger to the problem.
Having owned Diesels for year's the best thing for them is a good blowout on the Motorway and the worst thing you can do is short runs especially in winter.
I've seen Diesels that have been used mainly around town fail there MOT,s on excessive emissions and after being given a blast up the motorway 🛣 they then fly thru the test.😉😊👍👍👍
I had a Zafira turbo diesel run away on me once, when the turbo oil seals failed... it was indeed quite frightening at first but I was able to drop it in to top gear, drop the clutch and stand hard on the brakes, which killed it. Then there was just the matter of waiting 2 hours to recover me from just outside Basingstoke. Fortunately it was a company car, and was soon fixed, and eventually racked up 250k miles before being sold!
I’m thinking of hooking up a CO2 dump system into my range Rover in case anything like this happens as it’s 15 years old now
I'm glad I witnessed this. It's the only time I've ever seen an additive type treatment do anything whatsoever. Really hope this lasts for you.
I wonder if EGR cleaner is the same as brake cleaner but with a different label on the can?
Pretty much just panel wipe judging by the smell I reckon.
I have actually done a full cleaning of the entire intake system of my 320d and what you find is dusty carbon (sooth) caked to the EGR valve, the intake manifold will have a coating of a tarry substance made of sooth(from EGR)+oil (from the sump ventilation). The intake ports and valves will also have a cake of carbon on them.
After fixing all that i have sworn to never buy a diesel car again. Clean diesels don't exist. (Regardless of what VW used to claim.)
@@jfv65if you delete the egr valve and clean the intake it will stay clean for the rest of the engines life.
@@Everything_EvanI'm going to do that in a 2005 Kia Sportage Crdi 👍
You shaking the Berlingo to mix the magic juice with the diesel reminded me of an anecdote I once heard when working for major oil company, then one of The Seven Sisters. They'd had a substantial order for a particular blend of oil, but the blending machine was out of order. So they put the ingredients in the right quantities in a tank truck and drove it a few times round the refinery to blend it, then delivered it to the customer. I can not guarantee that it was a true story, but I could well imagine that it was.
A bit like running a two stroke M/C to mix the oil and petrol after parked up for a time. A neighbour was often spotted shaking his BSA Bantam on a winter morning when his car wouldn't start.
Another anecdote, same oil company as above, but no longer related to this video: They once built a refinery that had one single access road, somewhere in Greece. With a railway bridge over the access road. All went well until the first tanker came to pick up its load. But it would not fit under the railway bridge. So they had to dig out the road under the railway bridge before they could ship products from the refinery.
Yep true story, I do it most days with lube oils.
Reminds me of winding my son when he was a baby and crying his eyes out. After a bit of patting on the back over my shoulder, suddenly you would get a massive burp and he'd be fast asleep.
Surely Miss Hubnut is too young to remember Vision On? In case you're wondering, the music 'Left Bank Two' was used as the intro to the viewer gallery section.
ALWAYS do that with some engine rev. Meaning set it around 1800 to 2500 rpm than spray it.
It won't accumulate and as such won't "runaway"! 🙂
Used a can of Turbo/EGR valve cleaner on my old Volvo C30 with the 2.0 hdi engine. It said hold the revs at 1500rom when using the spray. Had a big improvement.
I removed and cleaned the EGR valve on my Saxo. It was a real pain to get to but was well worth it in the end.
So a scary diesel runaway redline from death did the trick!
What I suggest whilst you have the injector cleaner in, is to the drive Bella like you stole her, really redline the engine and get those revs up, because diesel is notorious for producing particulates
Given the age of Bella, it's likely that carbon build up in the EGR, plus injectors being a little clogged too that the engine was starved of fuel and air meaning it was missing
The injector cleaner will clean the injectors and also the combustion chambers too, you may experience additional black smoke whilst that is occurring, I would perform an additional EGR cleaning after the injector cleaning has occurred, to remove any additional deposits that may come from the combustion chambers
But I'm glad Bella is better than ever, YAY FOR BELLA!! ❤
To stop EGR issues, make sure you do more frequent oil changes. I can tell you from experience, sister's car, that 10k is far too long between changes.
I'm still getting over the fact that you read the instructions lol. Glad you have sorted it both
Great, pull Bob out!. One tip, get some high grade diesel every now and then, this helps keeping the injectors clean on older diesels.
I was sceptical initially but that really seems to have done the trick. Maybe spaying into the intake while holding a fast idle perhaps to avoid future run away scenarios? Thanks for the upload Ian
Bottle of EGR cleaner I just picked up does say hold 1500-1800 rpm and spray for a X number of seconds
WooHoo!
I cleaned the EGR plate on my Insight last month and it's been running WAY better since.
It is great that it worked for you. You must really be relieved that the engine is now working so well. It is likely no different than when I have removed a PCV from a gas engine and cleaned it out with degreaser. The issue is the build up of crud inside that stops it from functioning properly. It is nice that you were able to clean it without removing it. Glad there is a cleaner that actually does what it claims. Enjoy your new car!
You two are made for each other ❤
Hi HubNut, I watched this video after causing engine runaway to my 2012 Volkswagen diesel Caddy by pouring way too much EGR cleaner into the intake at once. It was so scary. I wanted to chunder from anxiety!
Watching your video while I left the car idle for 20 mins to slowly (and safely!) chug through the remaining liquid gave me some relief knowing I didn't have a unique experience... and after resetting the battery and leaving the car overnight, this morning I drove it with no engine light or limp mode! Lots of horrible smoke from the exhaust came out which I was quite chuffed to see, as I was quoted AUD$1200 to have the EGR replaced which I really wanted to avoid. Loved your video and your humour. I will be sure to add it to the cleaner fuel tank after my next oil change like you have in your follow-up video.
Thank you! From Australia 😄
A dose of cough medicine. Bella is now ok. Really pleased you got her to feel better.
Never used egr cleaner but I have used injector cleaner on a 1994 tractor that was blowing black smoke and was hard starting. It worked so well that I did not change the injectors and since then put some in my four year old Mitsubishi L200 (which did not blow smoke) but it improved the running so much that I use it every ten tanks or so, the engine runs smoother and quieter using it, I have since used it on a chinese generator set that was blowing black smoke from new and it stopped that as well. So yes injector cleaner works.
😊
A runaway success!
Lucas Transmission fix stopped my ancient Mercedes transmission from slipping a while back and gave it a second life, they make amazing products
Sounds like the egr valve was either stuck partially open or wasn't fully closing, so introducing exhaust gas to the inlet when it shouldn't! I can strongly recommend a diesel engine cleaner, JLM extreme clean. Use that every 6 months and it will clean and prevent accumulation of carbon and fuel residue throughout the intake, exhaust,fuel system and turbo, it really works well.
Forgot to include that this treatment is added to the fuel tank, so easier and more convenient than spraying into the intake or egr directly.
I hate to be a sceptic but I think it’s the tank additive that’s given you the better running. I’ve gone through both processes independently on my VW. When I removed the EGR oily crud was 5mm thick all round, I cleaned it out by hand as the intake spray cleaner barely touched it but realised the turbo and intake valves were still going to be coated. Using tank additive does help give smother running and better economy.
Thanks for another entertaining video, folks.🙂
The tank additive wouldn't have an instant effect though. I suspect it wasn't even supping it when I began the treatment.
Pressed the like button when they started to rock the car....Completely Hilarious
Modern diesel intake manifolds often get coked up with carbon from the EGR unless they do long journeys. Your potions seemed to have done the trick! Well done! Love the Debbie Maggie demos of the product!
So nice to come home late at night and be able to relax to this video after an intense week where I have had to take care of moving my mum home from temporary housing and also oversee psykiatric care for my brother while also trying to find a new job. Spending some time in the Hubnutverse is a much welcomed break. Great to see Bella back to fully functioning again, greetings from Denmark and my Ruthy the Wagon R+ and Claus the VW Caddy ;-)
Gosh. Well done you. Pleased to provide a distraction!
Glad to hear that this Lucas Spray has no relation whatsoever to the Lucas"prince of darkness", and that Bella is running smooth! Good job!
That severe knocking when the stuff is squirted in really makes my "mechanical sympathies" gland twitch! A horrible noise!
Amazing result, glad its improved so drastically
Nice one Ian and Carly. the planets in the constellation aligned and with some squirts of the magic potion and the fairy dust seems to have done the job with a bang. It's great to see Bella out and about on the road without the tummy trouble following the 'event' of terror. Many thanks for sharing.
Mr. Muscle oven cleaner spray also does a good job too.
brake cleaner fixed my egr valve on a 200k mondeo
Hurrah! Bob will be happy. 😊
Never a dull moment on Hubnut that’s for certain!!!!!
Excellent video as usual, I once witnessed a runaway on a Scania bin lorry, evacuated the workshop and waited until it blew to bits....that was scary 😮😮
I saw a daf 95 do the same but took a brave pill got the intake off covered in oil and blocked the intake which stopped the engine. This is why ASV valves are fitted to modern diesels
Nice to see an easy fix. On petrols I always spray electronics cleaner if the run rough to clean the idle control valve.
Well done you two. That got it off her chest!
Saved my Vivaro. Awesome product. Sadly with the 20mph limits on roads it’s killing diesels, but this revived my van. Thanks
Really pleased for you both (survived diesel runaway and achieved a soltion) :)
When I bought my berlingo 1.6 diesel it refused to start a couple of times an eventually completely cut out at a t junction. Turns out it was the egr valve, got it replaced due to the severity of the breakdown and not had any problems since
Easier to get at the EGR on a 1.6!
Another perfect video. Thanks HubNuts! I've personally experienced sooooo many EGR valve nonsense over the years.
In your short video of Bella this morning, i literally thought you had miss-fuelled her and she was trying to run on petrol. Now i know why! Going forward it may be worth regularly putting an additive in the tank or filling with premium fuel once in a while.
Fingers crossed she’s fixed.glad you caught Bella before she ran away and popped
I keep my fingers crossed for you, may Bella be fixed!
Some advice I found when I had my first Fiat Multipla diesel in 2002 was to drive the car like a petrol. Use plenty of revs setting off and always use the engine quite hard by making sure it revs. This beds the engine in better, protects the dual mass flywheel and does a better joke of keeping the EGR clear. So many people drive a diesel like a tractor, then complain when they have problems related with judder and poor breathing.
I like diesels primarily because of the low-rev manner in which they drive. A good "Italian tune up" every now and then is a good idea though.
What a relief guys - at last it seems like a bit of good fortune, fingers crossed it is now cured of it's bucking -buck and miss ( to be honest I had to rewind and check as I thought you were a bit sweaty !)
Sweary
So the mechanic in a can worked 🎉🎉 congrats!
ABSALOUTLY brilliant video Ian miss hubnut ❤👍 glad you fixed Bella brilliant
Really chuffed for you, fantastic that a can of spray has fixed yuour problem.
I can absolutely highly recommend you use millers eco max. Every 3 months to keep your engine running sweet as a nut. My 160 000 miles shogun loves it and has the same emissions it was born with.
Love the “Rock the car” method….. I would do (and have done) exactly the same! 😆
I've always done that with a few revs held on the engine, it stops that awful bogging down noise and it takes the cleaner through the system, rather than letting it sit as yours did.
I enjoyed the little Derek Bieri reference there... reigned in just in time by your pedagogical temperament.
That was informative and quite exciting, especially the near death experience. It’s great to see Bella fit again.
On the basis that most of the solvent ought to get burnt going through the engine, before it gets to the EGR, I'm amazed that this works.
Something new learnt.
I suspect some of the issue is where the EGR meets the intake - all manner of goop in that area.
The problem with the EGR on diesels is that the soot coming from the exhaust is mixed with the fine oil mist coming up the intake. This oil usually comes from the PCV - diesels have a lot of blowby that is returned in the intake airstream. Some have oil separators in the PCV, some don’t. Also, turbo seals might leak. Anyway, the oil mixed with soot makes for a nasty sludge that gets deposited on the EGR and in the intake.
Good job! i have only had petroll engined cars but for years i have used Redex Injector and fuel ine additive, excellent product, i just put a half a bottle into a full tank every now and then ,well worth doing.
UUUmmmmm Ian, maybe you should just leave it to Miss Hubnut , fair play she has some knowledge .Seems to know more every week , and so keen .Really make a great duo , seem to bounce off each other really well .Great Vid as usual .
Hi guys. I had a citroen guy recommend Cataclean8 for my c4 after it started throwing up faults for egr, lambda sensors etc. Worked miracles, seriously, both the fuel line in to the exhaust, including the combustion Chambers. Pricy at £18. Its a tank additive. But saved me from having to replace my egr, lambda sensors and catalytic converter! They do a petrol and diesel version, and it's the best of anything I have tried.
What. A. Result. Nice one! Never thought I'd see the day where petrol engines were simpler than diesels though.
Lucas Oils is good stuff, glad that seems to have worked for Bella, far easier than taking off the EGR.
I've not held much store in gunks and potions for cars but I'm well pleased for you that its done the business!
Our neighbours car runaway several years ago, it is very unnerving!
Just purchased the charger via your link. It was 35.99 not 45.99 as you stated in the description. Hope you get a cut...
Bargain!
Good practise to give it a blast ever couple of month with cleaner. I personal blank the EGr off
Nice one! Glad that a magic potion actually worked for you for once! I'm sure Bob will be delighted.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but other brands or EGR/Intake cleaner say to apply acceleration when spraying in which stops the pooling in the pipe work as it applys suction into the system. Thanks for sharing because EGRs are usually a pain to get to. ✌
The lucas egr and turbo cleaner is brilliant stuff tried it on a clio once it ran alright after that gonna try in on my Mondeo ST estate because egr code has come on hopefully it cleans it and see what happens 😉
We’ve had similar success using mr muscle and you don’t get the chance of it running away as it’s more water based rather than alcohol
Best wishes
Well done that couple, there are few things that match the feeling of tinkering gone right.
Good old Italian tune up comes to mind 😂
"it works, but we nearly died" That's how you know that it's definitely not sponsored 😁
Great to see Bella running well, lets hope the fix lasts.
I used the liquimoly cleaner on my C5. The instructions on the tin say to hold the revs at 2000 while spraying.
These instructions definitely said tickover, but I think raised revs would help prevent the pooling issue I had.
Just caught it at the right time
FIRST!
OK, that’s more encouraging. Maybe Bella will be fit to tow Bob again! 😅
It all went very HubNut :) 😊
I liked the homage to Vice Grip Garage when you put the fluid in the tank!
Succes 🎉! Well done , for now!? Perhaps repeat the treatment in a while!? And miss Hubnut deserves an intence kiss of life! After that near death experience 😵!!! 😂😂😂 love you guys! 🏴 🇳🇱
I loved the "Left bank Two" rendition from Ms Hubnut at the end.
Ahh - an unintentional italian tune-up😮. Glad youve got Bella sorted now
Glad Bella seems to be better, the EGR must have been a bit dirty / sticky, rather than absolutely caked in carbon, as even soaking in a bucket of petrol doesn't always work, without manual intervention, on really coked up parts.
I removed the EGR cooler and whole EGR system just a couple of days ago, because I had to do it to get access for changing the thermostat and water pump om my BMW.
Took the opportunity to clean them and the intake pretty thoroughly with a vacuum cleaner and scraper tool. Didnt really make a difference that I could tell though, I think it wasnt all that bad beforehand, just a millimeter of carbon buildup along the edges or so. I guess some regular high speed autobahn driving and relatively low milage of the car was to my benefit.
So in essence you gave Bella an automotive laxative 😉
More like colonic irrigation ;-)
Its great that you have identified the cause of issues. I would be looking at taking the intake off and giving it a complete clean out bet its suffocating.
Pretty much impossible without removing the engine. Love the French...
You should always build your revs in a diesel, changing to fourth gear at 25 mph is your problem, especially with an already sooty intake. Take all the intake off as well as the egr valve & give it a good decoke as it'll just keep coming back
A diesel is meant to lug. These don't really like going beyond 3000rpm anyway. If they didn't think they should be pulling at 1500rpm, they could quite easily prevent them from doing so.
@@HubNut yes I fully agree but this concept is challenged on your diesel engine because of the add on of the egr & also the dpf.
These anti breathing systems choke a diesel engine & as such you have to find it's happy spot in its power band. Older diesel engines without a turbo are slow but have loads of torque, newer diesels with turbo's still have the torque but you have to be in the rev band for the turbo to operate, add the egr to the equation & you're using second hand dirty air that again operates at a certain rev band. Now,put the dpf on you need to operate at a higher rev band to generate the heat so the regen can perform.
Constant driving at low revs is the best for mpg but you have to attain the speed first as you put undue stress on the cranks.
Put all this with the way they build modern engines well it's a recipe for failure, especially with heat pressed cranks.
They stopped making decent diesels in the late 90s IMHO 👍
Ps when a bureaucrat is telling us how to build engines we are doomed 😂
I'm knocking on several lumps of wood at the moment but it looks like it's worked.👍👍
I'd still look to taking the EGR out and properly cleaning it when time allows. these sprays and potions will only work for so long before it happens again. the spray would only clean a little bit of the EGR.
Problem is, the EGR is horrific to get at on this car. So while I agree with you, I can confidently predict it won't happen.
That is good news! Well done both, and well done Bella!
I've used a similar EGR cleaner on my 2L Vivaro, despite being told by mechanics that I was throwing away my money. However, it worked! Despite my feeling as though I was killing the engine with every squirt. At about the same time, I used some DPF cleaner/maintenance fluid in the fuel as I have no idea if my van ever does it's own DPF regens or not. It's like giving salbutamol to someone having an asthma attack!
Great result !, very few people understand that common rail diesels of this era (DPF & EGR) need to be worked very very hard for really long periods if you want them to stay healthy, I have had similar results spending an hour on the motorway in third gear at 3000 rpm, conversely pootling around for months on end usually causes big problems. Great that the cleaner worked though.
used this today on my golf 1.6 tdi seem to have fixed the issue so far fingers crossed
this just cured my limp mode and boos problem! vectra c cdti
The ninth circle of hell - removing the EGR from a vectra with the isuzu V6 diesel. Glad things worked out.
For a split second I thought that Ian and Mrs. Hubnut, inspired by French protests, would roll-over the Berlingo and set it alight 😜
I'm quite sad about those scenes in the news! Free the Berlingos!
@@HubNut Liberté, égalité, Citröenité
Nice to see some sponsors getting behind hub nut👍
Yeah , bout time , they deserve it .
Those American Lucus products are very good been using them for Years and they always work 😎👍
Hopefully Bella is fixed