bx 9000 J, Lindell 80 Bus, 2 of them, set on different channels,, along with my saturation plugins, and bx Townhome..... I like using those on my final Masters more than my Hardware
SSL NATIVE sounds best to my ears..People say it doesn't sound as good as the first version, I'm not sure of that, but this second version still beats the others from my personal opinion. Thank you for the amazing shootout 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼
Thanks! I ended up buying SSL Native recently on sale, it really does sound great, I find it has a more aggressive sound but it still somehow preserves dynamics well. Definitely one of my favorites.
welcome back! I discovered you last night via the tutorials! Saw your last upload was 7 months ago so I checked your twitter to make sure everything is okay. Glad you're back!!
Thanks! I've been rather busy these days so took a little break from RUclips just to unwind a bit. I have several video ideas, so hopefully will be posting more regularly.
Not a huge difference, but I definitely like the Glue best. Native Instruments and Waves fell apart when heavy compression is applied. Glue remains intact, but takes away lots of the low end (drums example), so I would advice using the internal sidechain highpass to take some of lows out of the detection circuit!
I was really disappointed in the glue when compared to the others in this test, it just doesn't have it. SSL Native and Brainworx were the top ones for me.
SSL BusComp (Reference) and Brainworx sound quite similar, yet BX is a little softer and kinda textured on the highs/transients.. Waves has considerably less Low freq emphasis, and more Coloration on the Mids.. NI seems to have more Drive, has present Lows and Highs are more crisp/less veiled than SSL BusComp.. The Glue has less Drive than NI, but more than the reference, and highs are even more crisp/less veiled.. TR5 is more tight/compressed, has a warm tone and bouncy quality to it, like BX, highs are also softer and textured on the highs/transients.. Drums: Depends on the situation, they're all good specially BX, SSL and TR5.. Waves is different, Glue is ok, NI performed worse here.. Electric Guitar: Again are all good, BX, TR5 and Waves stand out to me.. Acoustic: SSL sounds very Authentic, but BX is even more Natural.. NI is more Crisp, while Waves and TR5 performed worse.. Voice: Gets more subtle but, SSL and BX were the best, TR5 also sounded interesting but kinda out of time/disjointed.. while Waves performed worse being kinda brighter and Peaky. I disagree with Cytomic and Waves being similar.. To me Cytomic sounds a bit like NI, but less Driven and thinner; while Waves has the most Colored tone. I would order them like: BX, SSL and then *TR5, *NI, Cytomic, *Waves (*=considering it's unique particularities that could make them preferable on a certain situation)
I'v got a serious case of pluginitis. So I got the Waves, and the Brainworks and SSL Native. I use them all, and they all sound good. I can't hardly hear a difference. But if I only got to choose one, it would be the Brainworks Townhouse. I like the character. I can't put my finger on it, but still. I just trust my ears.
used it a lot for years, and finally switched to SSL Native for most of my mixes. The T-Racks is good, but saturates too much imo, giving feeling of depth but also of imprecision sometimes. I rely on saturation for this, and even if this compressor sounds well, I prefer to use right tool for right job. The SSL is cleaner, less dense but really better on subtle glue with healthy transients. That's only my opinion. I would still use the Tracks for mixes that are too weak/too clean, but for everything else that's not my favorite tool anymore
This is not how this Master Buss compressor is supposed to be used. Instead of using an already mixed track, it is better to simulator individual tracks (bass, guitars, vocals, drums) all routed to the master buss where this compressor "glues" all those tracks together into one cohesive stereo track. The audio tracks used here are already mixed and will not produce the same results as individual tracks.
@@VintiqueSound Maybe ot, I've only been recording and working as an audio engineer for 40 years. Maybe, I'll get around to learning about buss summing someday.
@@JamesK-i9e So then you should know that when you insert a plugin on your master/final stereo bus, the audio has already been summed down to a single stereo audio track prior to applying the master bus compressor (which is exactly the same as bouncing the audio down to a stereo track and then applying the master bus compressor).
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
Intro: 00:09
Test Details: 02:19
Chill Hop: 04:24
Drums: 06:55
Drums Smashed: 07:25
Distortion Guitars: 07:55
Acoustic Guitar: 09:07
Vocals: 10:51
bx 9000 J, Lindell 80 Bus, 2 of them, set on different channels,, along with my saturation plugins, and bx Townhome..... I like using those on my final Masters more than my Hardware
The SSL Native sounds really warm and smooth so that gets my number 1.
The Glue is clean and punchy which is nice too.
no comp: 4:25
ssl: 4:46
waves: 5:08
native instruments: 5:29
bx: 5:50
cytomic: 6:12
SSL NATIVE sounds best to my ears..People say it doesn't sound as good as the first version, I'm not sure of that, but this second version still beats the others from my personal opinion. Thank you for the amazing shootout 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼
Thanks! I ended up buying SSL Native recently on sale, it really does sound great, I find it has a more aggressive sound but it still somehow preserves dynamics well. Definitely one of my favorites.
I love the t racks bus compressor. Use it in every track. Their opto compressor is great too
I love the track on the end of the vid !
Thanks! That's my track, Antoku - Burning In My Soul, music.ruclips.net/video/4frZkJCyL7U/видео.html&si=0q8AX8F1wKdL7UGO
@@VintiqueSound thanks - found it on Amazon Music as well 😀
The brainworx has the classic
Police Sound....love it
welcome back! I discovered you last night via the tutorials! Saw your last upload was 7 months ago so I checked your twitter to make sure everything is okay. Glad you're back!!
Thanks! I've been rather busy these days so took a little break from RUclips just to unwind a bit. I have several video ideas, so hopefully will be posting more regularly.
Was pretty impressed with the NI
Not a huge difference, but I definitely like the Glue best. Native Instruments and Waves fell apart when heavy compression is applied. Glue remains intact, but takes away lots of the low end (drums example), so I would advice using the internal sidechain highpass to take some of lows out of the detection circuit!
I was really disappointed in the glue when compared to the others in this test, it just doesn't have it. SSL Native and Brainworx were the top ones for me.
SSL BusComp (Reference) and Brainworx sound quite similar,
yet BX is a little softer and kinda textured on the highs/transients..
Waves has considerably less Low freq emphasis, and more Coloration on the Mids..
NI seems to have more Drive,
has present Lows and Highs are more crisp/less veiled than SSL BusComp..
The Glue has less Drive than NI, but more than the reference,
and highs are even more crisp/less veiled..
TR5 is more tight/compressed, has a warm tone and bouncy quality to it,
like BX, highs are also softer and textured on the highs/transients..
Drums: Depends on the situation,
they're all good specially BX, SSL and TR5.. Waves is different, Glue is ok, NI performed worse here..
Electric Guitar: Again are all good, BX, TR5 and Waves stand out to me..
Acoustic: SSL sounds very Authentic, but BX is even more Natural..
NI is more Crisp, while Waves and TR5 performed worse..
Voice: Gets more subtle but, SSL and BX were the best,
TR5 also sounded interesting but kinda out of time/disjointed..
while Waves performed worse being kinda brighter and Peaky.
I disagree with Cytomic and Waves being similar..
To me Cytomic sounds a bit like NI, but less Driven and thinner; while Waves has the most Colored tone.
I would order them like: BX, SSL and then *TR5, *NI, Cytomic, *Waves
(*=considering it's unique particularities that could make them preferable on a certain situation)
I have the NI Solid Bus Comp. It's on every master. However, never in auto release mode.
the brainworx make all a little bit darker
For me it’s The Glue > SSL Native > T racks > Native > BX = Waves
The plug-ins are static with no feel while WA ve more movement dynamic n feel to a mix …
Great stuff
i thought the townhouse sounded the worst imo. Didn't have that nice bottom like the native or bus compressor
I'v got a serious case of pluginitis. So I got the Waves, and the Brainworks and SSL Native. I use them all, and they all sound good. I can't hardly hear a difference. But if I only got to choose one, it would be the Brainworks Townhouse. I like the character. I can't put my finger on it, but still. I just trust my ears.
I thought the Brainworks was the smoothest. Waves was my second favorite.
Why didn't he comment on the performance of the T-Racks ???????
used it a lot for years, and finally switched to SSL Native for most of my mixes. The T-Racks is good, but saturates too much imo, giving feeling of depth but also of imprecision sometimes. I rely on saturation for this, and even if this compressor sounds well, I prefer to use right tool for right job. The SSL is cleaner, less dense but really better on subtle glue with healthy transients. That's only my opinion. I would still use the Tracks for mixes that are too weak/too clean, but for everything else that's not my favorite tool anymore
I use the T Racks one on all my songs on the drum bus.
This is not how this Master Buss compressor is supposed to be used. Instead of using an already mixed track, it is better to simulator individual tracks (bass, guitars, vocals, drums) all routed to the master buss where this compressor "glues" all those tracks together into one cohesive stereo track. The audio tracks used here are already mixed and will not produce the same results as individual tracks.
I don't think you understand how bus summing works.
@@VintiqueSound Maybe ot, I've only been recording and working as an audio engineer for 40 years. Maybe, I'll get around to learning about buss summing someday.
@@JamesK-i9e So then you should know that when you insert a plugin on your master/final stereo bus, the audio has already been summed down to a single stereo audio track prior to applying the master bus compressor (which is exactly the same as bouncing the audio down to a stereo track and then applying the master bus compressor).
Mannnn...that bx....just sounds way, more musical than the others