I am still paying child support for a 20 year old because he is doing an apprenticeship. His mother and step father own a house, drive a BMW and go on vacation twice a year, while I live paycheck to paycheck. Is that extremely fair? Marilyn Ryan needs a reality check.
+SwordofManticorE I was nearly made homeless when they first started stealing from me. The mother live a life of luxury. The biggest problem is that the mother has no accountability for how she spends the money. My son's mother spend it all on herself.
fuck these bitches putting men on child support. complain about how men aint shit dont do nothing for child well how can a father put food for child when it going to the mother
Because of course the more money the father pays in child support the less the woman will rely on government benefits. It has nothing to do with supporting your child more along the line of keeping the taxpayers happy really. You want a devorce? Better be ready for the fallout. Both sides both the end and the women. And even the child.
Turquoise Cheetah I didn’t do anything wrong at all 🤷🏻♀️ my kids see their father all the time it’s the mothers who don’t let the father see their kids stop blaming the system and arrest the mothers who are bitter
@Michael Parissi YEP! Women are handed the kids on a silver platter, they pretty much have to kill a kid in order to lose a kid, and there are a few cases where a psycho mother kills one and STILL keeps the other kid. It isn't the system, it's the culture, men get the short end of the stick almost 100% of the time.
My father was a hardworking contractor and my mother had a nervous breakdown and never really recovered. She passed away in a mental institution from a massive heart attack, back in 1984. My point is, my father raised 7 children alone! Without food stamps, government cheese (A program President Jimmy Carter started for low income families, living below the federal poverty level during the late 1970's). He paid cash for everything, including the every house we ever lived in. I had my first full-time job, when I was only 14 years old. My father never believed. ANYTHING was free!!! Illegal aliens pouring into the United States, by the 10's of thousands!! Further, overloading the already depleted federal poverty programs!!! My younger sister is now a Ivy league trained, attorney. I went to college on a full academic scholarship, graduated and went on to earn my MBA. My older brother joined the military at 17, and is now a Colonel in in the State Police in Ohio. No one got arrested or hooked on drugs , had children out of wedlock or is incarcerated. Obama's fantasy of "rewading lazy people", with section 8 vouchers, free food , free health care and cash, is a joke! And you wonder how he got elected?! FDR is probably spinning in his grave, over the "bureaucratic mess" , his social services have mutated into!!! Trillion$ of tax payer money wasted on welfare queens having 3-6 children by several deadbeat men who have no intention of supporting their scores of abandoned children!!! State and local government and greedy , crooked physicians embezzling Million$ of Medicare & Medicaid money!! Section 8 becoming a breeding ground for a generation of generational single teenage mothers, career criminals, following in their parent's horrible footsteps! Waste run amuck!!! Women "double dipping " , collecting child support for their own personal expenses NOT the child's needs! Then trafficking their EBT card's value , in exchange for cash or drugs.,,,Instead of purchasing food!!! While their children sit at home and starve!!! No accountability of where these women and men spend their child support money or our tax dollars?! Bullshit Bias laws! Throwing people in jail even if , they aren't the biological parent?! Greedy corrupt state agencies getting rich off of basically stolen money!!! FUCK these greedy. lazy bitches & stupid ,corrupt and bias family court system!!!!
My ex wife took me back to court with a list of EVERYTHING I do suggesting I pay more support. The new formula took into account HER income and the court reduced my child support by almost cutting it in half! Oh boy she was mad!!!
It won't change anytime soon. It would require the takedown of the feminist stranglehold on the government, all thirsty white knights in the way, AND those in control of it all with the puppet strings.
Don't get married... Don't have children... The second a man ejaculates into a woman..... GAME OVER. She holds ALL of the cards, now (with the corrupt family courts backing). #MGTOW
Thanks. Its too bad the privately owned federal reserve selects our presidents or I would run lol. Those same bankers built this country on the blood of slaves who didn't ask to be here. There are so many videos on here of law enforcement being brutal to poor communities. White people mostly woke up one day and said "Hey black people have good hearts and are wonderful people" during the 60s and 70s (most anyways) and that pisses off the elite so they have been turning up the heat legally with this child support crap. But to keep fingers from being pointed at them they installed a puppet black president. I think he truly had good intentions while campaigning, but once in office he realized those bankers are the true rulers. Go back and watch Baraq videos while he campaigned,then look at his current ones. NOT the same guy I voted for......
I have been saying this since I can't rememeber. He is not the SAME guy i voted for either. It seems like each prez we vote in does the same EXACT thing. They totally change and sound just like the one before him. It is no coincidence to me that this happens every single time. And you are right. The Black folks from thee 60's and 70's were a different type of people . I don't know what happen to us.....we used to have pride in ourself. SMH.
If a REAL black man was elected, rather than this puppet of the bankers, real change would occur.I am an American Indian myself, but I have many close friends who are black, as well as a black son in law and grandson, and one trait of most the black men I know is a strong sense of both justice and right and wrong. I think this is result of there fathers and grandfathers living with injustice and ignorant racism every day of there lives, ad because they wanted a better world for there kids, they imbued there children with that sense of whats right or wrong. For this reason, knowing the stubborn heart of black men, those bankers had to go all the way to Kenya to find a black man to be a puppet they could corrupt and coerce. That's not to say there aren't bad black men, there are evil men in every race. But there are NOWHERE NEAR the "evil" black men that movies and media portray. When I see how much the racial boundries have crumbled my soul feels high with the happiness that soon we will be one people (whether those idiots in bed sheets like it or not!) All these years, races pointing the finger at one another while our real enemy, the international bankers, snuck up on us. They know as a nation divided we wont get much done. But there getting scared. As there hard work to keep the races divided disintegrates, The elite are in a panic. They scramble now to get our guns before we shout with one voice ENOUGH! Check out the video series I just uploaded. Watch all the parts in order and what you will learn will blow your mind. I know it left me in shock. It was made by a middle eastern guy who is nothing short of a genius and reveals a lot of whats going on, from 911 to MK mind control slaves, media manipulation and a lot of other stuff. Check it out and let me know what you thought. Be safe and God bless XD
GlamGirl7 So true! The sad thing is, most people don't even realize that the child support law is unconstitutional and treasonous,as any official supporting a law that goes against any amendment is guilty of treason. Why do people *think* they swear to uphold it? So how did we let it happen to begin with? The media decoyed attention on the whole Monika Lewinski farce while they slipped this Bradley law in 1997. Reading over it you will see that the president should have been impeached on the spot! It violates the 4th,5th,7th,9th, and 14th amendments. It skips right over double jeopardy penalties, protection against debtors prisons, ignores due process and many other violations. A Georgia Senator named Nancy Schaefer was working to expose this fraud when she was found murdered in 2010. She presented evidence that family judges accept cash bonus's for case quota's ordered (which is nothing more than private sector bribery), that they hold classes for there employees on how to presume all fathers all guilty payers, forge or alter documents, and even how to break up families by playing on financial hardships, and in cases like this witch, the greed of some all in the name of profits to keep the federal contract financed. Even worse is how CPS has been taking orders on certain types of kids (I.E. some wealthy person wants a blonde blue eyed child they mobilize to obtain one at all costs) for both infertile wealthy couples or wealthy perverts. Look into it, Glamgirl,or anyone else reading for that matter. Its like something out of a horror story but in this case its real. And the media backs them, by conditioning the public. Isn't the news supposed to be unbiased truthful journalism? Ask yourselves why, then, do they hypnotically repeat insults about fathers like "deadbeat dad" over and over in there reports. By looking at what is going on with a clear train of thought it wont be difficult to see the truth behind this massive lie that is ripping families apart and destroying children for profit. Most fathers love there children and would give anything, even there life for them without Big Brother. I know I would. The constitution is in place to protect against exactly this form of corruption. Spread the word. Stop the insanity and help save the kids in this nation from the true threat. Greedy corporations like Lockheed and Martin that use our kids and destroy our freedoms for profit, to the benefit of selfish she-ogres like this woman!
For 7 years I got raped with child support and if I missed even one payment there is hell to pay!!! I have missed one payment in the seven years do to a major injury to the point that I had to take 6 weeks off work. They did not care that I was not working and was not making money. All they cared about was money. I'm happy to say that after 7 years I now have full custody of my son. It has only been a few months. However in this time. My ex-wife has not even made one child support payment and do you know what's being done to her??? NOTHING!!!!! So yes the system is fucked!!! It's set up to protect mothers at all cost even when they are in the wrong!
@ineedhoez That's not nice. Why you gotta talk negatively about the kids though its not their fault. And they made the kids together so even if it would be THEIR raggedy ass kids. But still that wasn't necessary
The best part of all of this is a woman, out of the blue, can say "get out," and a man's financial life is ruined. Best advice I can give you men is to keep it in your pants. And the money you were going to spend on an engagement ring? Buy a dog with it. The dog will never sue you for alimony, and financially ruin you. Your girlfriend is a stranger, you don't know what is going on in her head, and YOU NEVER WILL...
I got married at 15 to a women who was 21. She was attractive and had a car lol. A childhood mistake that ruined my whole life. I was the poster child for " Young and stupid".
child support is especially wrong when a man is forced into fatherhood women have more options than men when there pregnant they can abort the child give it up for adoption etc but if a man says he doesn't want to be a father and a woman decides to keep the baby why should the man be punished for her decision yes it's her body and the man has no choice in what she does with it but since it's her body it's her choice it should be her responsibility men shouldn't be left accountable for her decision when they had no say in it where is the equality
+Renbunny♡ thank you Ren for saying that. it might not resolved anything but it does help just to hear it from a woman stand point. I haven't had any relationship ever since my x done this to me. I feel like killing myself at time knowing I can't support my son later in life...
+Stefstef Christophe he should have thought about that before he was stupid enough to get caught up in the moment and put his penis in her. Men are just as responsible as women over their own bodies. Stop blaming others for your own actions and take responsibility for yourself. If you dont want a baby, use a condom, or abstain from sex altogether. Its that simple...
You do make some good points but the man doesn't have the choice if he doesn't bear the child. In today's modern society, most fathers careless about their children. They careless from the beginning or when the relationship is over. The only have to pay child support if it's forced and most don't pay in full. All of my friends who are supposed to get child support are getting nothing. There are some fathers that fight for their children and the judge just gives the mom custody when the father can take better care of the children. But here is the thing with some women who have deadbeat baby fathers, some of them already saw he had one or several children he wasn't taking care of. What did they expect? Some women have more than one kid with a man after they see he's not taking care of the first child.
Janelle Allen I do agree there are some bad men out there, possibly at a higher rate than there used to be and that's due to the fact the nuclear family is been destroyed that's a conversation for another time. when I care about are the numbers. while there are more deadbeat dads now days I believe, the proportion too men getting screwed over, or bad vindictive women is a lot higher. as a theoretical say 30% of divorces are because men are horrible and 70% are because women are horrible I'm going to focus on returning the power back to men and taking away from women. that being said I said before the problem is a nuclear family destroyed, hook up culture, laws in society bending over for women, all contribute to the destruction of the nuclear family I merely by giving women too much power and none of the responsibility
My father was a hardworking contractor and my mother had a nervous breakdown and never really recovered. She passed away in a mental institution from a massive heart attack, back in 1984. My point is, my father raised 7 children alone! Without food stamps, government cheese (A program President Jimmy Carter started for low income families, living below the federal poverty level during the late 1970's). He paid cash for everything, including the every house we ever lived in. I had my first full-time job, when I was only 14 years old. My father never believed. ANYTHING was free!!! Illegal aliens pouring into the United States, by the 10's of thousands!! Further, overloading the already depleted federal poverty programs!!! My younger sister is now a Ivy league trained, attorney. I went to college on a full academic scholarship, graduated and went on to earn my MBA. My older brother joined the military at 17, and is now a Colonel in in the State Police in Ohio. No one got arrested or hooked on drugs , had children out of wedlock or is incarcerated. Obama's fantasy of "rewading lazy people", with section 8 vouchers, free food , free health care and cash, is a joke! And you wonder how he got elected?! FDR is probably spinning in his grave, over the "bureaucratic mess" , his social services have mutated into!!! Trillion$ of tax payer money wasted on welfare queens having 3-6 children by several deadbeat men who have no intention of supporting their scores of abandoned children!!! State and local government and greedy , crooked physicians embezzling Million$ of Medicare & Medicaid money!! Section 8 becoming a breeding ground for a generation of generational single teenage mothers, career criminals, following in their parent's horrible footsteps! Waste run amuck!!! Women "double dipping " , collecting child support for their own personal expenses NOT the child's needs! Then trafficking their EBT card's value , in exchange for cash or drugs.,,,Instead of purchasing food!!! While their children sit at home and starve!!! No accountability of where these women and men spend their child support money or our tax dollars?! Bullshit Bias laws! Throwing people in jail even if , they aren't the biological parent?! Greedy corrupt state agencies getting rich off of basically stolen money!!! FUCK these greedy. lazy bitches & stupid ,corrupt and bias family court system!!!!
I know a guy that has 2 kids and divorced. She got to keep the house ($300 grand) and everything in it. He is living in a tiny bachelor apartment, eating kraft dinner every day because between child support and alimony, he has barely anything left. The court said he is responsible for upkeeping his ex wifes quality of life. What about his quality of life? It's not even the child support necessarily in that case but the alimony.
Who is paying the mortgage on the house, though? I got the house but also got the responsibility for the mortgage payments. I don't agree with the court's goal of keeping the ex-wife's "quality of life" at the level of the marriage. Both parties lose in divorces, after all. Alimony should be limited to a couple of years so an ex can get employment sufficient to establish an okay lifestyle. My ex made 10x my income at the time of our divorce. He paid no alimony and only had to pay 2 years of child support.
Chris Rederer If the women cant support those children on her income, then she shouldn't be the one with custody. With the benefit comes the burden. Fathers should help there children DIRECTLY. Not have Big Brother set an amount so they can take a cut and throw him in jail if he cant meet it. That is madness. And it shows how little America knows about there rights under the U.S. constitution. Most fathers will do for there children without being told to. And the ones that won't are few and far between. Either way, they are making procreation out to be a crime if you think about it. And murderers are rapists are treated more fairly in court then fathers. At least they get due process and are protected against double jeopardy. When a father cant pay, he goes to jail for six months to a year (same as robbery) and after he is released he will be picked right back up and jailed if he cant find work. The robber is free after his term. That's just one of many examples of how the enforcement of child support violates the law. Its insane.
If the women can't afford to take care of the child, then why the hell do thay always get custody.. that lady gets 250 a week, that's 1000 a month!! And im pretty sure she gets a check for her down syndrome child.. plus she works part time... but she said she only has 29 bucks left... that's ridiculous , she must be supporting a drug habit..
That's because the courts are biased and it's been on youtube that judges favor mothers 99% of the time as you can't take a child away from it's mother, so they say. Sorry, but if I was supposed to put out all that money, I would want to see where it was going. It doesn't take 1400 dollars a month to take care of an infant baby, and what about the mother? Why isn't she paying anything? It's the courts that say oh the father has to pay for it all while the mom banks all the checks.
91% of all divorces with children end up in the female getting the children because the state knows that most women aren't going to work there for its reimbursement for welfare as determined in the Supreme Court case wehunt vs. Ledbetter. I'll also add that the Supreme Court of the United States same Supreme Court ruled in blessings versus Freestone the child support was never designed to be a benefit for the children. It was designed to be a benefit to the state as welfare reimbursement. And that is why women get the kids. The state knows that most women will not work.
I need to create a child support store that the debit card can be used in these stores only to make sure it's going to the right place I'm tired of this child support system I fell y'all pain I'm on it also
How do you pay for housing costs? How do you pay for the water consumption of the kid? How about the electricity the kid uses? How about the cost of preparing meals for a child? How about the cost of caring for a kid?
Actually child support is not about the child or the parent who collects. It’s about the small fee that the state collects off the top and about relieving the burden of welfare expenditures, so that the state can continue to qualify for funding from the federal government.
Child support is insanely UN-Constitutional. A man has zero rights in decision for/against abortion. With child support, if he loses his job and can't pay, he loses most of his Constitutional rights. He can be thrown in jail with NO due process, NO right to counsel, NO right to appeal, NO right to a trial, NO right to a trial by jury, NO right of protection from excessive fines, NO right to travel freely, and NO rights against unlawful search & seizures. In fact, new laws now make men who are not even the dad pay!
Here is a guess - ALL women think it is fair and ALL men think it is NOT fair!!!!!! The problem that I have is very simple - and NOT FAIR: If SHE gets pissed and decides that I CANNOT see my daughters when I am scheduled to see them - SO WHAT - WHO CARES!!!!!!!! HOWEVER if I get laid off from work and cannot pay her for 1 month - I GO TO JAIL!!!!! Tell me what is fair about that?!?!?!?!?! (And I spent 9 months in jail - so now I am 10 months behind - and cannot find a job!!!!!) I am also hiding - so they cannot find me and put me back in jail - I am SURE that not being able to find a job - does not matter to the FEMALE judge!!!!!!!! And I have not seen nor spoken to my 3 daughters in over 2 years - and that is OK by child support standards - which are 100% AGAINST the man!!!!! I miss my babies terribly - and I am sure that I will probably never see my girls again - because the ex told me so - and I'd bet the state will back her up 100% - why wouldn't they?!?!?!?!?!?
The funny part is that the ex-wife always gets remarried in a big hurry so she still has someone to support her. She then makes the new husband the child's father and cuts the real father out of the picture. All a man is good for is his money. It makes no difference if he is allowed to be in his childrens lives or not. And the judges couldn't care less. All a man is, is an ATM machine for vindictive women.
Karol Palazej I did that - and the child support judge - threw it out of court!!!!!! This is state to state and all states are different - and my lawyer (and several others) have told me that if your ex-wife does NOT want you to see your children - then it is RARE that you will see them!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!
Jeff Schwartz Indeed! If she says her child is too sick to be handed over for "visitation", the police will make sure that said visitation does not happen. But if the father already has the child during a visitation and tells the mother that the child is too sick to be transferred to her, the father will be arrested. Makes sense to me...
You went to jail for not paying? Bring up the Constitution. You can not be incarcerated over not paying a debt in this country. Well it's supposed to be illegal.
When you have a child with a woman married or not, you are at the mercy of the mothers feelings. You become a guest in your own house or she can leave for what ever reason and use you as a walking ATM. I will never have kids, its too risky.
they had it right in the old days, man leads woman follows, we shit all over men's God given roles everyday and wonder why they are offing themselves and losing hope everyday on another note italia 451 in the pic, i think, nice...
You sound like a co-dependent. Stop dating abuse emotionally abusive and manipulative women. You're also aren't subject to her feelings. You're subject to a court order. Get one. Haven't enforced if she doesn't drop off your child on time. There are legal remedies but you people just want to cry about everything
@@silverthunder639that part. That’s the scariest part. This is why they tell you don’t date single moms too. Cause if she and the child are used to living under your support for X amount of years. She can go to the court house and put you on child support.
I am a single father. Ive had my daughter since she was 2 weeks old. She hasnt seen her mother si ce. Her mother does not pay child support even though there was an order. Has never faced any consequences even though she works. Now she is 10. Ive known men who have been thrown in jail for less. Its not right.
I am in an abusive relationship. My girlfriend hits me and kicks me, as well as destroys my property, I want to leave desperately, however we have a 6 month old child and In my state If you make 2500 a month you would need to pay 600 dollars for your child, with a little one bedroom apartment coming in at 1000 a month minimum plus utilities making it around 1200 a month, add a car payment, food costs, general expenses, you are maxed out with no buffer zone, effectively a slave living in a one bedroom apartment. so 1900 a month working a full time job and you dont even get to see your child everyday. Meanwhile women get federal subsidies and child support (which is FAR more than the actual cost) but men have no assistance once the relationship ends, and have to deal with the emotional torment of leaving your child, and watching as another man comes and plays daddy to your child. Do you really think an infant costs 600 a month? Child support destroys men financially, and given the feminist leanings of the court system you are held captive regardless of the circumstances. If custody is shared, women are not ordered to pay child support. Visitation is not enforced but you better believe payment is or you can go to PRISON, have your DL revoked, no passport, no nothing. But here these bitches are speaking about what is fair? GTFO stupid bitch.
+Numa Mendez condoms have nothing to do with fair & equal treatment u dumb bitch because of dumb bitches like u who refuse to see the truth or who just don't give a fuck is why innocent guys are brutalized financially by this corrupt premeditated system
I would find a friend with security camera skills, the kind that can't be seen, and video the abuse every day, then leave, and keep the footage as evidence. Sleep in your car until it's resolved, and shower at the YMCA. I would not stand that kind of abuse from anyone
The real incentive for the child support system is not the welfare of the child, but states get matching federal funds for collected child support under Title 4d. If the welfare of the child was paramount, they would never put it in a single parent home where it is most likely to fail.
The funny thing is that if the financial support is there, all of the negatives about being in a single-parent home go away. It seems like your solution would be the force all people who have children to get married and not allow them to divorce
Children are not bills. They are children. You think I gave a damn about my fathers child support check as a kid? HELL NO! I WANTED MY PARENTS NOT CHILD SUPPORT!
Yea, problem is, often the dads then no longer have the money to see the kid or kids either. So they are broke and have no relationship with there kids. Child support often ruins lives.
supertimmy212661 if it wasn't for court ordered child support my ex would of NEVER paid....first 2 years of my twins life my ex did not pay because it took 2 years for the court system down here to get to our case. I asked the court, how about back child support for the last 2 years and they said, it wasn't ordered then so he doesn't have to pay...yeah kids aren't bills its more than just a bill...regardless if a dad pays or doesn't pay that child still has expenses that needs to be met.
Crysta Craven "that child still has expenses that needs to be met." Then pay for those expenses and stop bitching. No one told you to open your legs and have children. You are afforded ALL reproductive rights. Your ex is just regulated to "keeping it in his pants" or using a measly condom.
Crysta Craven Why does the father have to pay to see his child? Does your Mother pay to see them? Your friends? Your new boyfriend if you have one ? Why did you want custody if you couldn't afford them? You wanted the benefit of the children while giving him the burden? I best you spent some of the money you got on things that were for other then your child didn't you? You'll probably deny it (all women do) but I would swear to it that you did. And I don't even have to know you to know that. Your post said it all. Heres a thought. Get a job and take care of them. If he is a good father he will help when he can and if he is not why would you want his money and keep him in your life? Your way of thinking is destroying families across the county.
My kids father can see his kids anytime he wants too, he chooses not to be a part of their lives. I can count on my hands how many times he has come down for a one day visit. Its been 12 and a half years. Btw I have a good job and I'm in college as well. One of my twins has epilepsy and developmental delays. So don't start hacking your mouth about something you have no clue about.
I paid everything while we were married for ten years. I paid more than my haldf. They want me to pay? Give me my daughter. I'll pay while she's with me, and not a penny more. F the court and child support.
Mothers always get the upper hand. A court will rarely give a father full custody away from the child’s mother, except under very extreme circumstances. I’m female, btw.
If it isn't fair to fathers, it is even more unfair to NON-FATHERS. DNA paternity testing or proof of formal adoption needs to be mandatory before assigning child support. Any relationship including marriage that fails because of paternity fraud, should exonerate the man from paying anything for the child. And no man who met the mother AFTER the child was conceived, should ever have to pay it. It should not be possible to double-dip the system by getting the father and the next boyfriend to both pay.
$2,700 a month? No child costs that much. No wonder people fight over kids so much. The loser in a custody battle will never be able to afford a home again. The system is beyond broken. It's horrible. People can't drive, they get hauled into court for money the really don't have, they can't work, because child support takes huge, huge portions of their check, they can't even see the child in more cases than people think, and more. It should be for people who have the ability to pay, and just won't. The amount ordered needs to be reasonable for the person, and, quite frankly, unless the parent is abusive or a danger to the child, BOTH parents should have equal rights. This whole business of one person gaining all the rights alone is wrong. And my opinion is based on what I see people actually going through all the time. The system is very outdated in how it's set up.
I am a single father of two little boys the mom is the one who needs to pay child support...but is not...from my stand point she isn't paying and not a single call during the week to say goodnight to them...she waits till the weekend to see them by the court order...thinking on modifying the split custody into full custody...should I...
Your a damn fool if you do... child visitation regardless of child support should not be taken away from the kids no matter what.. that belongs to the kids. Dont punish the children becuase your ex is a B
I should not have to pay past 18, I should not have to pay for my kid to go to college. I should not have to pay if the kid spent half as much time with me. and I hate how you can pay a lot of money, and the mom could use the money for what ever you want, and you cant ask them what they spend there money on.
when talking about child support, i don't believe a word that come out of woman's mouth. "they are extremely fair" How do you know when u don't pay child support.
Peter Pan lol 😂 well when you find someone that wants to be with you, which I’m guessing is pretty hard for you lmao. You can put her in the kitchen all you want babes. There you go.
Why don't they have the kid live with the parent that is more finantially stable. So my mom makes min. Wage and my dad is a computer designer. My mom can barley support me so my dad has to pay so much money that he is in a lot of debt. They don't value the time fathers spend with children. Because of my moms financial situation I tried to move in with my dad but they said I was "Too little to make my own dections" what
I'm sorry to hear your caught in the middle of that. Your comment sounded like your mature enough to make decisions on your own. It is just corruption. I am afraid our generation left a mess for yours to clean up and deal with. Your father could and probably would do more for you and your mother if the state would mind its own business. I hope you get to spend some decent time with your dad. My kids were robbed from me by the system and given to my ex wife, who is not at all a good person. I hope both your parents are .
ScopedKilz wtf kids need their moms! And some fathers don’t even give a shit about their kids your comment is so stupid I would never give my kids away! Oh and they also check backgrounds too
@@adrianarogeligo Kids also need their fathers. A child isn't just a mothers child. What you commented is so ignorant. What you would or wouldn't do is irrelevant because you aren't in the persons position who wanted to live with father. There are plenty of unfit mothers who have custody of children so yeah sure back ground checks. I hope those apply to the unfit mothers who shouldn't get custody just because they are a woman.
@@adrianarogeligo Alot of mothers don't give a shit about their kids either. My grandmother abandoned my mom, my two uncles, and my aunt when my mom was only 12. All of my moms siblings went to go live with their fathers except my mom who was forced to live on the streets. It's not your child it's both of yours and you both have to take responsibility and if you're fuckin broke then you have no business having custody, especially of the father genuinely want the child like more of them do than don't.
My kids mother told me "The ONLY thing you do for me is pay my rent" She later said that her rent was $1200/ month and my child support was $1600 a month. I am not only paying 100 percent of the housing cost for my kids. I am paying for their mom and their sister to with enough left over to pay for all of the food as well. How the fuck is this shit legal!?!?!
If a woman has a good job, but has to pay expensive fees for kindergarten, then those fees should be split 50/50. If she is a stay at home mum, because she feels she can give them the best start by giving them her time rather than working, that's ok too, and a man should pay for half of what it costs for childcare, plus keeping a roof over their heads until the mother is able to go back to work. The problem comes, when the woman becomes so vindictive, that she refuses to go back to work, even when the child has reached school age, and there are jobs out there that allow her to work during school hrs only. I believe a woman should work during school hrs and contribute her salary towards the child, therefore reducing the portion a man is asked to pay, as there are now 2 incomes, of which the courts should take into account. At the end of day, both parents are responsible for the child/children and their are no happy children, when couples cannot sit down and agree a plan that works for both of them. Children pick up that tension and some grow up to be aggressive adults. If a man earns more than the woman, he should pay a little more, likewise, if the woman has a job that makes more than the man, then she should contribute more. The Judges and Courts should not be allowed to make the final decision, because in most cases, they are biased.
I agree Zulkefli, and l do believe that Sweden has a much fairer system. The US however appears to be different in many ways, and is far worse than the UK. Don't forget the court system and Judges have a lot to gain because they don't give a damn about the father's, it's all about money, it's a dirty system. I think a woman should do whatever she can to help support her children and look upon further monies from the father as a bonus. He does need to pay something in the same way he would have to if the couple were still together, but, to leave a man without enough money to put a roof over his bed, pay his bills, gas and work needs is a criminal. I have no time for women whose sole intention in life is to use the system to get as much as she can from him, and accept no financial responsibility.
Zulkefli, this is why the suicide rate is so high in the US, 25,000 a year l believe, and even though l am British, l don't really know the number in the UK, but here is a percentage. The politicians in the UK actually blame the men for not seeking mental help. www.ibtimes.co.uk/male-suicide-scandal-uk-men-are-paying-system-that-drives-thousands-them-death-1493340 However, there are some women with good paying jobs having the same problem, and am aware that some women in this country have been driven into massive debt so their X partner can live the life he was accustomed too before they married. I just found this article printed in UK today in our daily mail. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2142637/More-women-U-S-paying-husbands-alimony-child-support-before.html Things are changing, but not for the better, it's the system that's screwed.
This is why you need to be very careful and be very thorough who you screw at night with. Because that 15-30 minutes of desperate/needed activity could lead to 18 years of unexpected/shocking duty.
So you have full custody of your child and you still paying child support ? First of all are you sure you paying child support because it could be alimony. If yes is your ex wife also raising one or more child of yours ?
If a man falls behind on his child support he goes to jail. I have full custody of my daughters and their mom pays no support and the courts won't do ANYTHING about it. She's close to $30k behind now
child support is the worst shit ever. I dont mind paying cs but the child never actually gets the money. women should be forced to put some of the money in a bank account.
If child support wasnt such a winfall for the mother we'd have a lot less divorces. If the other women realize the hardship theyd face after kicking out their breadwinner, there would be a lot less divorces. Sounds like a win-win for society.
Child support is for men who don’t want to take care of their children once they split with the mother. If men don’t like child support take care of your damn kids or don’t have any in the first place and there wouldn’t be court to force men to do it. I pay child support and I don’t whine about it.
@@HazelGreen64 im a great father with 50/50 joint custody and still forced to pay child support because baby momma wont get a job its not about the child its baby momma support
@@martianfromspace8292 well I have sole physical and legal custody for 2 years and I'm still paying child support. Ex was fighting against joint custody because he wanted sole custody. He almost ended my child's life but thank goodness my child ran away to find me. Now I pay medical bills and child support since 2019 until my court case is heard later this month and I'm not crying about it. It is what it is and I have to pay it or else my license gets suspended. Yea my ex was lazy and stayed past his Visa and still allowed to stay here and use the system. Your story isn't special.
Notice every woman says "yes its fair" while men are saying "how am i supposed to pay my bills?" Imagine you make 25k a year and your ex makes 43k and you're still paying her 600 a month. Nothing like seein a 550 paycheck dwindle down to 200 after child support and taxes
I was bringing home 200 a week . Lost my apartment due to child support. Now I work under the table and ask her wat they need instead of sending money just tell me wat they need and I’ll get it sent asap or u can pick it up at the store just let me know I’ll definitely get it done it ain’t hard
@@imposter0shadow I was providing more money for my kids than the state it’s not evening out. She even mentioned it wasn’t worth it . I had no choice but to start working under the table just to pay bills and still provide for my kids . My home boy on child support and his daughter is at his house 85% of the time . I’m like bruh go to court . He said he rather not do all that .
@@mrfanatic2292 fo real. Courts dont give af about a man strugglin. Judge straight up told me get a second job then told me i couldn't handle 50/50 custody cus i was working all the time psh
Apparently you can just write their names on birth certificates... Laws would change REAL fast if some hoodrat started naming the governor as the daddy!!
@Sup2000 Simple as that Yes, you are. The man should be required to take car of the child for 1/2 of the time, not pay anything to the mother. What you are proposing is just as crazy as giving the child to the man and have the mother pay him cs.
Mom asks when am I gonna have my first child. I tell her in my dreams where they belong. Father asks when I'm going to have my first child. I answer when I become a millionaire.
because everyone is scared, and us people going through this including myself. are scared, worn out, no motivation. that's why us men have commited suicide and go get on drugs.
I paid for everything for my son health insurance, clothes, food and sent him to his mother's with food along with him staying with me every other week. The court still wanted me to pay child support. Until I pointed out that our son was 13 and his mother still refused to get a job while he was at school.
Walking into the Child Support office makes me sick. Where is this task force, because they need to visit Franklin County, and Bloomsburg county of Pennsylvania. For almost 10 years now, my ex has claimed to be a stay at home mom. our son is going on 12. She recently had a forth child, and graduated from a University with a bachelor's degree. This I pay 515 a month and all medical monthly plan for our son, just because she is a stay at home mom. "stay at home mom" has become a norm, for a lot of women. It's a business, to maintain their lifestyle and American Dream. Pennsylvania has a share income law, and I only saw my income on the calculation sheet. I tried contacting my representative here and senator to talk about some changes and they don't want to hear about it. Child Support system is still broken, and incompetent people in the system make vital decisions for the hard working everyday. These vital decisions impact our lives. This task force needs to come to Pennsylvania PLEASE!!! THOU SHALT NOT RATION JUSTICE!!!
bdjoh011 Ha, cleaning. Do you intend to have people take you seriously by bringing up stereotypes? So what would be the first mess males created since they've been fucking up since time began? Also, when exactly is your new world order going to take place? I want to have my seat in advance so I can have my popcorn ready when watching it fail. Women have way more opportunities now. They even have opportunities given simply because of their gender. That hasn't stopped them from being unable to fix the world. I'm sure being gay or a woman will definitely make a difference in the bigger scheme of things.
See, ignore the gender warlord. They come off as a woman mad at the fact that her lifestyle isn't being funded through more child extortion. Have you spoken to your congressman? Also look to have the amount you pay lowered. It may take time. But if they are not following the laws, their ruling on the matter is null and void.
Shon McClure LOL definitely. People like that don't get to me. It shows lack of intelligence and the low level of competence. As far as what you mentioned, as soon as a woman labels herself a "stay at home mom" it is set in stone until a child turn 18. My son is 11. He doesn't need a stay at home mom.This means that even if she has 3 or 4 she can use that as a reason or excuse to stay home, bitch and complain about how me as a man can't understand how hard it is to raise kids. Well, if it's hard and expensive to raise 1 even 2, it's going to be harder to raise 4. So why make your life harder? I think it's also selfish because each kid can get less time with a parent, and I think this is where" free range parenting" can come into play. Or why kids spend 40 hours a week in front of a TV. Kids start raising themselves because the parent is tired and use the "stay at home mom" reason to go to school full time or they're tired. In any case, our country isn't like China in the way that is we can't tell people to stop producing. In conclusion, I can't tell my ex wife to stop having kids with her husband, it's not my place, but i wish she and other women stop living at others expense through life. Have 5 kids, but you must come up with the means of raising them through your own pocket.
Shon McClure Wars, poverty, racism, sexism, etc. All created by men. Women still don't have a lot of opportunities despite the advancements they have made. It is already been proven that women tend to be more gentle and have more heart and are more able to use their heads instead of their brawn and work to better the world. Men are more testosterone-driven. Just look up the achievements made by women.
My advice is to bring that legtimimate point up to the state. Have you considered getting custody if you're in a place where'd you be able to raise the child? For lack of better term thr mother sounds like a piece of shit. She seems like someone who can't take care of herself without someone else funding her. Those kids will suffer because of her incompetence. Seriously, invoke your constitutional rights. The courts are supposed to be about the law and not money right?
In the state of MA the mother is NOT required to work until the child is age 5. How is that fair? My husband and I have to pay $1000 a month and the other isn't required to work. She doesn't work and refuses to allow us to see or take the child. So that would not only give us a chance to bond but also take financial burden off us so we don't have to lose our apartment and go bankrupt. Also giving her time to go to work! My husband and I work 5-7 days a week and she works nothing. How is that fair? There is a clear sweat equity issue in this state!
carlos rogers Its hard to survive and yes very hard not to blow up. We want to support Lilly but not at $1000 a month. We were struggling to just make it with an extra $400 left at the end of the month. They don't call the State of MA the "common wealth" for no reason lmfao.
When I was in the u.s.army a friend of minds was paying 500 dollar a month from hos own pocket.but someone told his baby mama since he is in the army she can get more.so the baby mama took him to court.and he was told he had to pay 235 a month.and he already had his kid on medical insurance.the baby mama was mad.at him and.so now she would not let him see the kid unless he start paying 500 a month again.he took her court.snd she told the judge that she want let him see the his kid until he pays more.so now my friend got full custody.and he raised his son and now he finish college.and a good job.she had nothing to do with her child since my friend got custody.this was of course was years ago.and now my friend son has his own house.and career in the army which he is a major.this was in 1991.father and son both retired.the father a retired sgt.major and his son retired lt.col.such a long time.
well i got cheated on now. i dont get to see my daughter. and i pay way to much money to support my cheating ex wife. the court system need to focus on justice. which in my case i got screwed for believing in a family
same here, she cheats, but courts won't allow they why's or what for in court. Morals don't count. My ex wife suggested family counseling I bit and dropped my custody case, she waited until I took some out of town work and pounced on it......the paralegal ex knew she'd win. The ad litem for the child determines the custody by asking who gave more baths and fed the child the most...nothing else considered so I lose. I had one of the best attorney's in town, but not enough against a family court with one thing on their mind....matching federal dollars...the working dad or the stay at home cheating mother. This is why society is becoming more and more screwed up......they place family values second over the income.
Earl Crabb Try being in NJ. I was my kids primary caregiver even though I worked more hours. The courts could care less. I have the Y chromosome and both parents work, thus she must be the custodial parent. The really ironic piece is during the separation she wanted the time with the kids to be 75% me and only 25% her, but her attorney convinced her that would hurt her case. I pay her child support even though we both make excellent incomes as long term technology senior engineers. So even though she doesn't need it to provide them a good home and even though we have them 50% time each I pay her child support.
Chris Bartolini I hear that! As much as I would have like to have squeezed the life out of that bitch, unfortunately I would have been Prime Suspect #1 and NEVER have gotten away with it and my son would have been left for Foster Care Hell.
1. Yes Child Support laws are favored towards women, as the majority of people paying for child support are men. 2. With child support, there is no limit, as it is based on a percentage of income, and not the recommended or required amount to raise a child. Usually it is at least 15% of the income, and average around an additional 10% per child. 3. By no means men, do not have children, because you will lose in most cases. Instead get a vasectomy, and before that always use condoms, and other birth control methods, and never trust a woman when she said she is on the pill, or other things, because women trap men by pregnancy, which is a 18 year debt to be paid minimum, and even longer in other cases.
shit i make 1900 net they base it off my gross... i pay 49 percent for 2 kids 843 a month and im left with 1057 for my car, rent, insurance, food, gas, phone for the month!!!
Holy shit he makes 1600 a week and brings home 1200 because of child support and still lives with parents lol guy must not no how to manage his cash lol
Listen 1600 a month ain't shit where I live. A studio apartment starts at 1200. Wth, my mom raised 4 kids alone no child support straight out the projects, works for the Pentagon, about to retire. So a lazy ass women ,who uses children to make a living for self ain't shit. Hell yeah it's unfair.
The system is broken for example why shouldn’t aa man paying child support be allowed to claim their child as a dependent? At least every other year. Still not convinced? Why can’t the money used to support your child at least get a tax exemption? It’s totally broken. It’s like we are being punished for having a kid.
They always require the man to have full-time employment yet they let women get away with part-time employment or no employment at all... yeah that sounds fair
I pay child support and I’m not dying. Y’all men are really pathetic whining babies crying that you have to take care of your kids once you split from the mother. Bunch of wanna be deadbeats.
99 Bottles of Bleach whatever dude. Men need to take care of their kids. They’re not the only ones paying child support. If the fee is unaffordable it can get remodified. As long as it’s being paid the parent is fine. I pay child support and I don’t whine about it.
@@HazelGreen64 You say you don't whine about child support but are you paying more than you can afford and living in a tiny flat or back at home with parents unable to afford a decent standard of living. If not then it's easy for you to say men shouldn't whine. Many men can't get their child support payments reduced in many states because alot of courts don't care that these men are expected to pay out most of their wages and not be able to afford housing or food. It's a scam. Women aren't sent to prison when they don't pay their child support like a father is. The system is biased and corrupt. It shouldn't be based on income and some mothers don't actually spend child support on the children but themselves instead. The money should be given a different method to stop it being used on anything other than the child.
Are child support laws unfair? Dang right they are! My brothers ex girlfriend cheated on him while he worked to put food on the table and she sat at home. She ended up shacking up with the guy in his car while addicted to meth and despite all of that, family court saw fit to award her custody plus a generous child support sum of 800 dollars a month for 2 kids. This shouldn't be a burden for guys like my brother to bear. He's a victim. He worked his a__ off to provide for his family. And because his ex was bored or somehow unsatisfied with her sedentary life, she repayed his generosity by screwing some other guy and becoming a drug user for which the state has now become an enabler. Something's gotta be done about this. The system is severely flawed.
Women- I'm a girl boss, and I'm strong and independent. I don't need a man. Also women- I want alimony, child support, the house, the kids, and everything else. Seems they are strong and independent, yet still want to rely on men to be an atm.
Everyman should pay support. But it should be based on income & time each parent spends with the child. Their should be a cap on the amount of child support can be paid. Plus the one whom receives support it should be counted as earned income.
Most women just love the child support collection system! And why wouldn’t they seeing it benefits them and basically leaves the man broke, busted and disgusted! Child support collection system is so unevenly balanced it’s sickening!!! They take all your money then say enjoy your parenting time!!!! How? I can’t even afford to take my child for a happy meal🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬! The system needs to be completely overhauled!!! I totally 💯 % agree in supporting my kids but within reason!!!! It’s unreasonable to cause someone to go bankrupt to pay 💰 child support!! Anyways, what 2 year old blows through $1200.00 a month? Yea I know childcare can be expensive but how about when mom is throwing Grandma a few bucks under the table and then claim she’s paying 2-300 dollars a week for daycare with no receipt or documentation!!! I realize now why a lot of men decided on visectomy!!!! Child Support Collection System uses punitive measures rather than corrective measures to promote unity between parents! The system basically pits parents against one another
I just want some consistency. -If you believe a Woman should be free to have an abortion then the Man should be free to drop all of his Paternity Rights and not be legally forced to pay child support. -If you think that a Women does not have the right to abort an unwanted pregnancy and that the Man should strive to support her in every way he can then that is also not being biased or hypocritical towards the severity of the situation. Whichever side of that fence you're on is okay, in my opinion. This is a complex issue with no simple solutions that will please everyone. But I hate the inconsistency some people have...particularly Women who want the right to decide whether or not they want a kid but meanwhile believe they can take away that same right from a Man.
50/50 shared custody. And I pay medical from my pay checks. I make 70k, and ex makes 50k. I have to pay child support. It's a joke, I already have my kids 50 percent, so I need to feed them, cloth them, drive them, keep a roof over their heads on my time. And I pay for when it's not my time? She's remarried to a guy with a big brand new house, kids have their own rooms there. My kids and I share a 2 br apartment. My son and I share a room. Her husband's income doesn't count, yet the court says child support is to make sure kids have a equal lifestyle in both homes. Um, it's real unequal. I also pay for all 3 kid's cellphones, because she refuses and she can. Cellphones bills not applicable in family court. They don't "need" them. So she uses the rules to not help me pay for them because I already was, am. It's all a big fkn joke.
we need to organize a national march on washington dc they do this because we are not standing together we need to start getting political to make some changes
From my perspective, family courts gave incentives to custodial parents (re: mothers) to work to prevent generous visitation to the child's visitor because the more time the visitor had with the kids the less $$ mom got. So it seems that is no longer being considered in MA; cool
At least these guys get to see their childrenif you were black you would not see your children at all you have money being forced out of your pay and some child support should be abolish
I went trough all this shit my self and is not fun and women do their best to keep the kids for all the help the got from the system !! free food, low rent, free medical and free money, NO BECAUSE THEY LOVE their Kids !! the kids are their free meal ticket for a lot of women
I am still paying child support for a 20 year old because he is doing an apprenticeship. His mother and step father own a house, drive a BMW and go on vacation twice a year, while I live paycheck to paycheck. Is that extremely fair? Marilyn Ryan needs a reality check.
EXACTLY
+SwordofManticorE I was nearly made homeless when they first started stealing from me. The mother live a life of luxury. The biggest problem is that the mother has no accountability for how she spends the money. My son's mother spend it all on herself.
We can blame our flawed legal system for their lack of competence.
+SwordofManticorE true so fucked up
fuck these bitches putting men on child support. complain about how men aint shit dont do nothing for child well how can a father put food for child when it going to the mother
If mother is struggling, why not give the child to the father?
because for some reason the woman believes that she is still somehow the mans responsibility
Because of course the more money the father pays in child support the less the woman will rely on government benefits. It has nothing to do with supporting your child more along the line of keeping the taxpayers happy really. You want a devorce? Better be ready for the fallout. Both sides both the end and the women. And even the child.
Because most would honestly rather be raised by their mother
Because the kid is a cash cow ! And she does not want to work 60 hours + like the father.
@Rick Sanchez exactly
the father always loses no matter what state you live in.
andis 2112 no my kids father have all the rights your so wrong
Turquoise Cheetah I didn’t do anything wrong at all 🤷🏻♀️ my kids see their father all the time it’s the mothers who don’t let the father see their kids stop blaming the system and arrest the mothers who are bitter
Adriana Crowley
Well said!
@Michael Parissi YEP! Women are handed the kids on a silver platter, they pretty much have to kill a kid in order to lose a kid, and there are a few cases where a psycho mother kills one and STILL keeps the other kid. It isn't the system, it's the culture, men get the short end of the stick almost 100% of the time.
My father was a hardworking contractor and my mother had a nervous breakdown and never really recovered.
She passed away in a mental institution from a massive heart attack, back in 1984.
My point is, my father raised 7 children alone! Without food stamps, government cheese (A program President Jimmy Carter started for low income families, living below the federal poverty level during the late 1970's).
He paid cash for everything, including the every house we ever lived in.
I had my first full-time job, when I was only 14 years old.
My father never believed. ANYTHING was free!!!
Illegal aliens pouring into the United States, by the 10's of thousands!! Further, overloading the already depleted federal poverty programs!!!
My younger sister is now a Ivy league trained, attorney. I went to college on a full academic scholarship, graduated and went on to earn my MBA.
My older brother joined the military at 17, and is now a Colonel in in the State Police in Ohio.
No one got arrested or hooked on drugs , had children out of wedlock or is incarcerated.
Obama's fantasy of "rewading lazy people", with section 8 vouchers, free food , free health care and cash, is a joke! And you wonder how he got elected?!
FDR is probably spinning in his grave, over the "bureaucratic mess" , his social services have mutated into!!!
Trillion$ of tax payer money wasted on welfare queens having 3-6 children by several deadbeat men who have no intention of supporting their scores of abandoned children!!!
State and local government and greedy , crooked physicians embezzling Million$ of Medicare & Medicaid money!!
Section 8 becoming a breeding ground for a generation of generational single teenage mothers, career criminals, following in their parent's horrible footsteps!
Waste run amuck!!! Women "double dipping " , collecting child support for their own personal expenses NOT the child's needs! Then trafficking their EBT card's value , in exchange for cash or drugs.,,,Instead of purchasing food!!! While their children sit at home and starve!!!
No accountability of where these women and men spend their child support money or our tax dollars?!
Bullshit Bias laws! Throwing people in jail even if , they aren't the biological parent?! Greedy corrupt state agencies getting rich off of basically stolen money!!! FUCK these greedy. lazy bitches & stupid ,corrupt and bias family court system!!!!
My ex wife took me back to court with a list of EVERYTHING I do suggesting I pay more support. The new formula took into account HER income and the court reduced my child support by almost cutting it in half! Oh boy she was mad!!!
Finally a victory for men.
cheers mate .
This felt good
Happy for ya
Serves her right.
Remember boys: Don't stick your dick in crazy.
that baby is making more money then majority of people in the country
LADIES: This is the many reasons WHY MEN don't want to get married anymore.
It won't change anytime soon. It would require the takedown of the feminist stranglehold on the government, all thirsty white knights in the way, AND those in control of it all with the puppet strings.
Don't get married...
Don't have children...
The second a man ejaculates into a woman..... GAME OVER.
She holds ALL of the cards, now (with the corrupt family courts backing).
#MGTOW
Sola Scriptura brah just kick the preggy
Married or not, if you impregnate them and they have the baby, you're still going to be hooked on child support.
@@EMMANUELIWUOHA. you don't need to impregnate them just being there and ur dad by default
That attorney is a liar. When asked if she thinks it is a fair deal, she say's yes it is fair whilst shaking her head no at the same time? GTFOH!
Midnight Black I would vote for you if you ran for PRESIDENT sir. Your eyes are open to the b.s.
Thanks. Its too bad the privately owned federal reserve selects our presidents or I would run lol. Those same bankers built this country on the blood of slaves who didn't ask to be here. There are so many videos on here of law enforcement being brutal to poor communities. White people mostly woke up one day and said "Hey black people have good hearts and are wonderful people" during the 60s and 70s (most anyways) and that pisses off the elite so they have been turning up the heat legally with this child support crap. But to keep fingers from being pointed at them they installed a puppet black president. I think he truly had good intentions while campaigning, but once in office he realized those bankers are the true rulers. Go back and watch Baraq videos while he campaigned,then look at his current ones. NOT the same guy I voted for......
I have been saying this since I can't rememeber. He is not the SAME guy i voted for either. It seems like each prez we vote in does the same EXACT thing. They totally change and sound just like the one before him. It is no coincidence to me that this happens every single time.
And you are right. The Black folks from thee 60's and 70's were a different type of people . I don't know what happen to us.....we used to have pride in ourself. SMH.
If a REAL black man was elected, rather than this puppet of the bankers, real change would occur.I am an American Indian myself, but I have many close friends who are black, as well as a black son in law and grandson, and one trait of most the black men I know is a strong sense of both justice and right and wrong. I think this is result of there fathers and grandfathers living with injustice and ignorant racism every day of there lives, ad because they wanted a better world for there kids, they imbued there children with that sense of whats right or wrong. For this reason, knowing the stubborn heart of black men, those bankers had to go all the way to Kenya to find a black man to be a puppet they could corrupt and coerce. That's not to say there aren't bad black men, there are evil men in every race. But there are NOWHERE NEAR the "evil" black men that movies and media portray. When I see how much the racial boundries have crumbled my soul feels high with the happiness that soon we will be one people (whether those idiots in bed sheets like it or not!)
All these years, races pointing the finger at one another while our real enemy, the international bankers, snuck up on us. They know as a nation divided we wont get much done. But there getting scared. As there hard work to keep the races divided disintegrates, The elite are in a panic. They scramble now to get our guns before we shout with one voice ENOUGH!
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GlamGirl7 So true!
The sad thing is, most people don't even realize that the child support law is unconstitutional and treasonous,as any official supporting a law that goes against any amendment is guilty of treason. Why do people *think* they swear to uphold it?
So how did we let it happen to begin with? The media decoyed attention on the whole Monika Lewinski farce while they slipped this Bradley law in 1997. Reading over it you will see that the president should have been impeached on the spot! It violates the 4th,5th,7th,9th, and 14th amendments. It skips right over double jeopardy penalties, protection against debtors prisons, ignores due process and many other violations. A Georgia Senator named Nancy Schaefer was working to expose this fraud when she was found murdered in 2010.
She presented evidence that family judges accept cash bonus's for case quota's ordered (which is nothing more than private sector bribery), that they hold classes for there employees on how to presume all fathers all guilty payers, forge or alter documents, and even how to break up families by playing on financial hardships, and in cases like this witch, the greed of some all in the name of profits to keep the federal contract financed. Even worse is how CPS has been taking orders on certain types of kids (I.E. some wealthy person wants a blonde blue eyed child they mobilize to obtain one at all costs) for both infertile wealthy couples or wealthy perverts.
Look into it, Glamgirl,or anyone else reading for that matter. Its like something out of a horror story but in this case its real. And the media backs them, by conditioning the public.
Isn't the news supposed to be unbiased truthful journalism? Ask yourselves why, then, do they hypnotically repeat insults about fathers like "deadbeat dad" over and over in there reports. By looking at what is going on with a clear train of thought it wont be difficult to see the truth behind this massive lie that is ripping families apart and destroying children for profit. Most fathers love there children and would give anything, even there life for them without Big Brother. I know I would. The constitution is in place to protect against exactly this form of corruption. Spread the word. Stop the insanity and help save the kids in this nation from the true threat. Greedy corporations like Lockheed and Martin that use our kids and destroy our freedoms for profit, to the benefit of selfish she-ogres like this woman!
For 7 years I got raped with child support and if I missed even one payment there is hell to pay!!! I have missed one payment in the seven years do to a major injury to the point that I had to take 6 weeks off work. They did not care that I was not working and was not making money. All they cared about was money. I'm happy to say that after 7 years I now have full custody of my son. It has only been a few months. However in this time. My ex-wife has not even made one child support payment and do you know what's being done to her??? NOTHING!!!!! So yes the system is fucked!!! It's set up to protect mothers at all cost even when they are in the wrong!
@Sup2000 Simple as that yes but then men are Wong the courts come after us. When women are wrong they do nothing!!
@@Rob-dg5ng exactly plus if a women is raped she can abort it (as she should) I want the same energy for men who were raped
Child support isn't for the women....So a woman claiming she can't live off her child support, it's total BS.
I agree with you. That is true but so many women live off child support while taking from their childs mouth basically.
Okay, how about she dropped the kids off at your house and she can go live her life? She is taking care of his raggedy ass kids.
@@ineedhoez THEIR kids
Well that depends maybe the father is sending the payments late.
@ineedhoez That's not nice. Why you gotta talk negatively about the kids though its not their fault. And they made the kids together so even if it would be THEIR raggedy ass kids. But still that wasn't necessary
The best part of all of this is a woman, out of the blue, can say "get out," and a man's financial life is ruined. Best advice I can give you men is to keep it in your pants. And the money you were going to spend on an engagement ring? Buy a dog with it. The dog will never sue you for alimony, and financially ruin you. Your girlfriend is a stranger, you don't know what is going on in her head, and YOU NEVER WILL...
I got married at 15 to a women who was 21. She was attractive and had a car lol. A childhood mistake that ruined my whole life. I was the poster child for " Young and stupid".
It's not enough to keep it in your pants. A crazy female roommate has just as much power under the law.
Fuck yeah. You are right.
Nick K -Those words just hit me soo hard, and will remain with me til I die.
Facts 💯
child support is especially wrong when a man is forced into fatherhood women have more options than men when there pregnant they can abort the child give it up for adoption etc but if a man says he doesn't want to be a father and a woman decides to keep the baby why should the man be punished for her decision yes it's her body and the man has no choice in what she does with it but since it's her body it's her choice it should be her responsibility men shouldn't be left accountable for her decision when they had no say in it where is the equality
+Renbunny♡ thank you Ren for saying that. it might not resolved anything but it does help just to hear it from a woman stand point. I haven't had any relationship ever since my x done this to me. I feel like killing myself at time knowing I can't support my son later in life...
+Stefstef Christophe he should have thought about that before he was stupid enough to get caught up in the moment and put his penis in her. Men are just as responsible as women over their own bodies. Stop blaming others for your own actions and take responsibility for yourself. If you dont want a baby, use a condom, or abstain from sex altogether. Its that simple...
You do make some good points but the man doesn't have the choice if he doesn't bear the child. In today's modern society, most fathers careless about their children. They careless from the beginning or when the relationship is over. The only have to pay child support if it's forced and most don't pay in full. All of my friends who are supposed to get child support are getting nothing. There are some fathers that fight for their children and the judge just gives the mom custody when the father can take better care of the children. But here is the thing with some women who have deadbeat baby fathers, some of them already saw he had one or several children he wasn't taking care of. What did they expect? Some women have more than one kid with a man after they see he's not taking care of the first child.
Stefstef Christophe vasectomy fo yo ass
Janelle Allen I do agree there are some bad men out there, possibly at a higher rate than there used to be and that's due to the fact the nuclear family is been destroyed that's a conversation for another time.
when I care about are the numbers. while there are more deadbeat dads now days I believe, the proportion too men getting screwed over, or bad vindictive women is a lot higher.
as a theoretical say 30% of divorces are because men are horrible and 70% are because women are horrible I'm going to focus on returning the power back to men and taking away from women.
that being said I said before the problem is a nuclear family destroyed, hook up culture, laws in society bending over for women, all contribute to the destruction of the nuclear family I merely by giving women too much power and none of the responsibility
Of course the old bag would say it fair. it un fair in allll 50 states
I know. That old lady is clearly supporting the female side just for being female. She's evil. The system is corrupt and she knows it.
It pisses me off that they don't press her on it.
My father was a hardworking contractor and my mother had a nervous breakdown and never really recovered.
She passed away in a mental institution from a massive heart attack, back in 1984.
My point is, my father raised 7 children alone! Without food stamps, government cheese (A program President Jimmy Carter started for low income families, living below the federal poverty level during the late 1970's).
He paid cash for everything, including the every house we ever lived in.
I had my first full-time job, when I was only 14 years old.
My father never believed. ANYTHING was free!!!
Illegal aliens pouring into the United States, by the 10's of thousands!! Further, overloading the already depleted federal poverty programs!!!
My younger sister is now a Ivy league trained, attorney. I went to college on a full academic scholarship, graduated and went on to earn my MBA.
My older brother joined the military at 17, and is now a Colonel in in the State Police in Ohio.
No one got arrested or hooked on drugs , had children out of wedlock or is incarcerated.
Obama's fantasy of "rewading lazy people", with section 8 vouchers, free food , free health care and cash, is a joke! And you wonder how he got elected?!
FDR is probably spinning in his grave, over the "bureaucratic mess" , his social services have mutated into!!!
Trillion$ of tax payer money wasted on welfare queens having 3-6 children by several deadbeat men who have no intention of supporting their scores of abandoned children!!!
State and local government and greedy , crooked physicians embezzling Million$ of Medicare & Medicaid money!!
Section 8 becoming a breeding ground for a generation of generational single teenage mothers, career criminals, following in their parent's horrible footsteps!
Waste run amuck!!! Women "double dipping " , collecting child support for their own personal expenses NOT the child's needs! Then trafficking their EBT card's value , in exchange for cash or drugs.,,,Instead of purchasing food!!! While their children sit at home and starve!!!
No accountability of where these women and men spend their child support money or our tax dollars?!
Bullshit Bias laws! Throwing people in jail even if , they aren't the biological parent?! Greedy corrupt state agencies getting rich off of basically stolen money!!! FUCK these greedy. lazy bitches & stupid ,corrupt and bias family court system!!!!
It is not in fair we woman have given up so much and men only have to give a bit of cash if they don’t want to pay don’t have kids
@@Robert74450 bullshit
Ask Robin Williams if child support is fair....
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He's dead though
A big part to why he killed himself. Sad truths
Only if Robin williams was still alive
What they don't seem to understand is the fact that the state does not give a shit about the parents or the kids. It is about the money.
U goddamn right. Same thing with police. They only care about the money 💰💲
I know a guy that has 2 kids and divorced. She got to keep the house ($300 grand) and everything in it. He is living in a tiny bachelor apartment, eating kraft dinner every day because between child support and alimony, he has barely anything left. The court said he is responsible for upkeeping his ex wifes quality of life. What about his quality of life? It's not even the child support necessarily in that case but the alimony.
in my state, there is no alimony
Who is paying the mortgage on the house, though? I got the house but also got the responsibility for the mortgage payments. I don't agree with the court's goal of keeping the ex-wife's "quality of life" at the level of the marriage. Both parties lose in divorces, after all. Alimony should be limited to a couple of years so an ex can get employment sufficient to establish an okay lifestyle. My ex made 10x my income at the time of our divorce. He paid no alimony and only had to pay 2 years of child support.
I don't believe in alimony. Child support, yes (assuming one partner has primary custody). But the situation I described was shared custody.
But if the woman was the bread winner and he stayed home then she would be the one to pay him for "quality of life"
Chris Rederer If the women cant support those children on her income, then she shouldn't be the one with custody. With the benefit comes the burden. Fathers should help there children DIRECTLY. Not have Big Brother set an amount so they can take a cut and throw him in jail if he cant meet it. That is madness. And it shows how little America knows about there rights under the U.S. constitution. Most fathers will do for there children without being told to. And the ones that won't are few and far between. Either way, they are making procreation out to be a crime if you think about it. And murderers are rapists are treated more fairly in court then fathers. At least they get due process and are protected against double jeopardy. When a father cant pay, he goes to jail for six months to a year (same as robbery) and after he is released he will be picked right back up and jailed if he cant find work. The robber is free after his term. That's just one of many examples of how the enforcement of child support violates the law. Its insane.
If the women can't afford to take care of the child, then why the hell do thay always get custody.. that lady gets 250 a week, that's 1000 a month!! And im pretty sure she gets a check for her down syndrome child.. plus she works part time... but she said she only has 29 bucks left... that's ridiculous , she must be supporting a drug habit..
And that's probably all the paying father makes, there is not a single thing fair about child support
Right on!
That's because the courts are biased and it's been on youtube that judges favor mothers 99% of the time as you can't take a child away from it's mother, so they say. Sorry, but if I was supposed to put out all that money, I would want to see where it was going. It doesn't take 1400 dollars a month to take care of an infant baby, and what about the mother? Why isn't she paying anything? It's the courts that say oh the father has to pay for it all while the mom banks all the checks.
91% of all divorces with children end up in the female getting the children because the state knows that most women aren't going to work there for its reimbursement for welfare as determined in the Supreme Court case wehunt vs. Ledbetter. I'll also add that the Supreme Court of the United States same Supreme Court ruled in blessings versus Freestone the child support was never designed to be a benefit for the children. It was designed to be a benefit to the state as welfare reimbursement. And that is why women get the kids. The state knows that most women will not work.
I need to create a child support store that the debit card can be used in these stores only to make sure it's going to the right place I'm tired of this child support system I fell y'all pain I'm on it also
Yes sir I always said that .
Lol.... you'll only make money if you sell beer ... and weed ....
How do you pay for housing costs? How do you pay for the water consumption of the kid? How about the electricity the kid uses? How about the cost of preparing meals for a child? How about the cost of caring for a kid?
child support is not about the child... its,about the parent...
It's about forcing the man to give more money to the woman
Actually child support is not about the child or the parent who collects. It’s about the small fee that the state collects off the top and about relieving the burden of welfare expenditures, so that the state can continue to qualify for funding from the federal government.
Tyron Cline -Exactly!!!!
Child support is insanely UN-Constitutional. A man has zero rights in decision for/against abortion. With child support, if he loses his job and can't pay, he loses most of his Constitutional rights. He can be thrown in jail with NO due process, NO right to counsel, NO right to appeal, NO right to a trial, NO right to a trial by jury, NO right of protection from excessive fines, NO right to travel freely, and NO rights against unlawful search & seizures. In fact, new laws now make men who are not even the dad pay!
Even gay men can suffer under these new laws.
Here is a guess - ALL women think it is fair and ALL men think it is NOT fair!!!!!! The problem that I have is very simple - and NOT FAIR: If SHE gets pissed and decides that I CANNOT see my daughters when I am scheduled to see them - SO WHAT - WHO CARES!!!!!!!! HOWEVER if I get laid off from work and cannot pay her for 1 month - I GO TO JAIL!!!!! Tell me what is fair about that?!?!?!?!?! (And I spent 9 months in jail - so now I am 10 months behind - and cannot find a job!!!!!)
I am also hiding - so they cannot find me and put me back in jail - I am SURE that not being able to find a job - does not matter to the FEMALE judge!!!!!!!! And I have not seen nor spoken to my 3 daughters in over 2 years - and that is OK by child support standards - which are 100% AGAINST the man!!!!! I miss my babies terribly - and I am sure that I will probably never see my girls again - because the ex told me so - and I'd bet the state will back her up 100% - why wouldn't they?!?!?!?!?!?
The funny part is that the ex-wife always gets remarried in a big hurry so she still has someone to support her. She then makes the new husband the child's father and cuts the real father out of the picture. All a man is good for is his money. It makes no difference if he is allowed to be in his childrens lives or not. And the judges couldn't care less. All a man is, is an ATM machine for vindictive women.
Karol Palazej
I did that - and the child support judge - threw it out of court!!!!!! This is state to state and all states are different - and my lawyer (and several others) have told me that if your ex-wife does NOT want you to see your children - then it is RARE that you will see them!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!
Jeff Schwartz Indeed! If she says her child is too sick to be handed over for "visitation", the police will make sure that said visitation does not happen. But if the father already has the child during a visitation and tells the mother that the child is too sick to be transferred to her, the father will be arrested.
Makes sense to me...
Child Support system sucks they shit on one human for another
Child Support sucks
You went to jail for not paying? Bring up the Constitution. You can not be incarcerated over not paying a debt in this country. Well it's supposed to be illegal.
When you have a child with a woman married or not, you are at the mercy of the mothers feelings. You become a guest in your own house or she can leave for what ever reason and use you as a walking ATM. I will never have kids, its too risky.
they had it right in the old days, man leads woman follows, we shit all over men's God given roles everyday and wonder why they are offing themselves and losing hope everyday
on another note italia 451 in the pic, i think, nice...
You sound like a co-dependent. Stop dating abuse emotionally abusive and manipulative women. You're also aren't subject to her feelings. You're subject to a court order. Get one. Haven't enforced if she doesn't drop off your child on time. There are legal remedies but you people just want to cry about everything
Late response, but forgot to mention if the child is not the father's child and still has to pay
@@silverthunder639that part. That’s the scariest part. This is why they tell you don’t date single moms too. Cause if she and the child are used to living under your support for X amount of years. She can go to the court house and put you on child support.
I am a single father. Ive had my daughter since she was 2 weeks old. She hasnt seen her mother si ce. Her mother does not pay child support even though there was an order. Has never faced any consequences even though she works. Now she is 10. Ive known men who have been thrown in jail for less. Its not right.
I am in an abusive relationship. My girlfriend hits me and kicks me, as well as destroys my property, I want to leave desperately, however we have a 6 month old child and In my state If you make 2500 a month you would need to pay 600 dollars for your child, with a little one bedroom apartment coming in at 1000 a month minimum plus utilities making it around 1200 a month, add a car payment, food costs, general expenses, you are maxed out with no buffer zone, effectively a slave living in a one bedroom apartment. so 1900 a month working a full time job and you dont even get to see your child everyday. Meanwhile women get federal subsidies and child support (which is FAR more than the actual cost) but men have no assistance once the relationship ends, and have to deal with the emotional torment of leaving your child, and watching as another man comes and plays daddy to your child. Do you really think an infant costs 600 a month? Child support destroys men financially, and given the feminist leanings of the court system you are held captive regardless of the circumstances. If custody is shared, women are not ordered to pay child support. Visitation is not enforced but you better believe payment is or you can go to PRISON, have your DL revoked, no passport, no nothing. But here these bitches are speaking about what is fair? GTFO stupid bitch.
next time use a condon
+Numa Mendez condoms have nothing to do with fair & equal treatment u dumb bitch because of dumb bitches like u who refuse to see the truth or who just don't give a fuck is why innocent guys are brutalized financially by this corrupt premeditated system
I would find a friend with security camera skills, the kind that can't be seen, and video the abuse every day, then leave, and keep the footage as evidence. Sleep in your car until it's resolved, and shower at the YMCA. I would not stand that kind of abuse from anyone
This ^^
I concur. Please record the abuse anyway possible. I would get a months worth just for good measure.
The real incentive for the child support system is not the welfare of the child, but states get matching federal funds for collected child support under Title 4d. If the welfare of the child was paramount, they would never put it in a single parent home where it is most likely to fail.
The funny thing is that if the financial support is there, all of the negatives about being in a single-parent home go away. It seems like your solution would be the force all people who have children to get married and not allow them to divorce
Children are not bills. They are children. You think I gave a damn about my fathers child support check as a kid? HELL NO! I WANTED MY PARENTS NOT CHILD SUPPORT!
Yea, problem is, often the dads then no longer have the money to see the kid or kids either. So they are broke and have no relationship with there kids. Child support often ruins lives.
supertimmy212661
if it wasn't for court ordered child support my ex would of NEVER paid....first 2 years of my twins life my ex did not pay because it took 2 years for the court system down here to get to our case. I asked the court, how about back child support for the last 2 years and they said, it wasn't ordered then so he doesn't have to pay...yeah kids aren't bills its more than just a bill...regardless if a dad pays or doesn't pay that child still has expenses that needs to be met.
Crysta Craven "that child still has expenses that needs to be met."
Then pay for those expenses and stop bitching. No one told you to open your legs and have children. You are afforded ALL reproductive rights. Your ex is just regulated to "keeping it in his pants" or using a measly condom.
Crysta Craven Why does the father have to pay to see his child? Does your Mother pay to see them? Your friends? Your new boyfriend if you have one ? Why did you want custody if you couldn't afford them? You wanted the benefit of the children while giving him the burden? I best you spent some of the money you got on things that were for other then your child didn't you? You'll probably deny it (all women do) but I would swear to it that you did. And I don't even have to know you to know that. Your post said it all. Heres a thought. Get a job and take care of them. If he is a good father he will help when he can and if he is not why would you want his money and keep him in your life? Your way of thinking is destroying families across the county.
My kids father can see his kids anytime he wants too, he chooses not to be a part of their lives. I can count on my hands how many times he has come down for a one day visit. Its been 12 and a half years. Btw I have a good job and I'm in college as well. One of my twins has epilepsy and developmental delays. So don't start hacking your mouth about something you have no clue about.
I paid everything while we were married for ten years. I paid more than my haldf. They want me to pay? Give me my daughter. I'll pay while she's with me, and not a penny more. F the court and child support.
Take your ass to court and petition for full custody of your child then. Stop bitching and do something
Mothers always get the upper hand. A court will rarely give a father full custody away from the child’s mother, except under very extreme circumstances.
I’m female, btw.
ineedhoez the court is biased you insensitive assclown.
Facts
sad thing is mothers are raising their daughters to use the system to get what they want
I'm making sure my son never gets married or has a kid.
That's always true ☺️
If it isn't fair to fathers, it is even more unfair to NON-FATHERS. DNA paternity testing or proof of formal adoption needs to be mandatory before assigning child support.
Any relationship including marriage that fails because of paternity fraud, should exonerate the man from paying anything for the child. And no man who met the mother AFTER the child was conceived, should ever have to pay it. It should not be possible to double-dip the system by getting the father and the next boyfriend to both pay.
More reason for me to become a MGTOW.
Gotta take that red pill someday.
$2,700 a month? No child costs that much. No wonder people fight over kids so much. The loser in a custody battle will never be able to afford a home again. The system is beyond broken. It's horrible. People can't drive, they get hauled into court for money the really don't have, they can't work, because child support takes huge, huge portions of their check, they can't even see the child in more cases than people think, and more. It should be for people who have the ability to pay, and just won't. The amount ordered needs to be reasonable for the person, and, quite frankly, unless the parent is abusive or a danger to the child, BOTH parents should have equal rights. This whole business of one person gaining all the rights alone is wrong. And my opinion is based on what I see people actually going through all the time. The system is very outdated in how it's set up.
I am a single father of two little boys the mom is the one who needs to pay child support...but is not...from my stand point she isn't paying and not a single call during the week to say goodnight to them...she waits till the weekend to see them by the court order...thinking on modifying the split custody into full custody...should I...
do it!!
Yes you should your doing it all by yourself anyway!
Your a damn fool if you do... child visitation regardless of child support should not be taken away from the kids no matter what.. that belongs to the kids. Dont punish the children becuase your ex is a B
I should not have to pay past 18, I should not have to pay for my kid to go to college. I should not have to pay if the kid spent half as much time with me. and I hate how you can pay a lot of money, and the mom could use the money for what ever you want, and you cant ask them what they spend there money on.
when talking about child support, i don't believe a word that come out of woman's mouth.
"they are extremely fair"
How do you know when u don't pay child support.
Yeah if those Fuckin bitches paid child support they would be singing a different tune
@@Akirxxa shut up, woman. Your place is in the kitchen.
Peter Pan lol you know that’s not true. But I’ll give you the attention you want.
@@Akirxxa yep, it is true. Men should take away the rights presented by mistake from all the women.
Peter Pan lol 😂 well when you find someone that wants to be with you, which I’m guessing is pretty hard for you lmao. You can put her in the kitchen all you want babes. There you go.
Why don't they have the kid live with the parent that is more finantially stable. So my mom makes min. Wage and my dad is a computer designer. My mom can barley support me so my dad has to pay so much money that he is in a lot of debt. They don't value the time fathers spend with children. Because of my moms financial situation I tried to move in with my dad but they said I was "Too little to make my own dections" what
I'm sorry to hear your caught in the middle of that. Your comment sounded like your mature enough to make decisions on your own. It is just corruption. I am afraid our generation left a mess for yours to clean up and deal with. Your father could and probably would do more for you and your mother if the state would mind its own business. I hope you get to spend some decent time with your dad. My kids were robbed from me by the system and given to my ex wife, who is not at all a good person. I hope both your parents are .
ScopedKilz wtf kids need their moms! And some fathers don’t even give a shit about their kids your comment is so stupid I would never give my kids away! Oh and they also check backgrounds too
@@adrianarogeligo Kids also need their fathers. A child isn't just a mothers child. What you commented is so ignorant. What you would or wouldn't do is irrelevant because you aren't in the persons position who wanted to live with father. There are plenty of unfit mothers who have custody of children so yeah sure back ground checks. I hope those apply to the unfit mothers who shouldn't get custody just because they are a woman.
@@adrianarogeligo Alot of mothers don't give a shit about their kids either. My grandmother abandoned my mom, my two uncles, and my aunt when my mom was only 12. All of my moms siblings went to go live with their fathers except my mom who was forced to live on the streets. It's not your child it's both of yours and you both have to take responsibility and if you're fuckin broke then you have no business having custody, especially of the father genuinely want the child like more of them do than don't.
My kids mother told me "The ONLY thing you do for me is pay my rent" She later said that her rent was $1200/ month and my child support was $1600 a month. I am not only paying 100 percent of the housing cost for my kids. I am paying for their mom and their sister to with enough left over to pay for all of the food as well. How the fuck is this shit legal!?!?!
Scandalous, a disgusting system
If a woman has a good job, but has to pay expensive fees for kindergarten, then those fees should be split 50/50. If she is a stay at home mum, because she feels she can give them the best start by giving them her time rather than working, that's ok too, and a man should pay for half of what it costs for childcare, plus keeping a roof over their heads until the mother is able to go back to work. The problem comes, when the woman becomes so vindictive, that she refuses to go back to work, even when the child has reached school age, and there are jobs out there that allow her to work during school hrs only. I believe a woman should work during school hrs and contribute her salary towards the child, therefore reducing the portion a man is asked to pay, as there are now 2 incomes, of which the courts should take into account.
At the end of day, both parents are responsible for the child/children and their are no happy children, when couples cannot sit down and agree a plan that works for both of them. Children pick up that tension and some grow up to be aggressive adults.
If a man earns more than the woman, he should pay a little more, likewise, if the woman has a job that makes more than the man, then she should contribute more. The Judges and Courts should not be allowed to make the final decision, because in most cases, they are biased.
I agree Zulkefli, and l do believe that Sweden has a much fairer system. The US however appears to be different in many ways, and is far worse than the UK. Don't forget the court system and Judges have a lot to gain because they don't give a damn about the father's, it's all about money, it's a dirty system.
I think a woman should do whatever she can to help support her children and look upon further monies from the father as a bonus. He does need to pay something in the same way he would have to if the couple were still together, but, to leave a man without enough money to put a roof over his bed, pay his bills, gas and work needs is a criminal. I have no time for women whose sole intention in life is to use the system to get as much as she can from him, and accept no financial responsibility.
Zulkefli, this is why the suicide rate is so high in the US, 25,000 a year l believe, and even though l am British, l don't really know the number in the UK, but here is a percentage. The politicians in the UK actually blame the men for not seeking mental help.
www.ibtimes.co.uk/male-suicide-scandal-uk-men-are-paying-system-that-drives-thousands-them-death-1493340
However, there are some women with good paying jobs having the same problem, and am aware that some women in this country have been driven into massive debt so their X partner can live the life he was accustomed too before they married. I just found this article printed in UK today in our daily mail.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2142637/More-women-U-S-paying-husbands-alimony-child-support-before.html
Things are changing, but not for the better, it's the system that's screwed.
Quit working and watch them all suffer my friend! That would be a beauty to watch! Try to find a way to self employ yourself!
Maine is the same way. I fork 40% of my check over to the mother. It doesn't matter that I cannot provide for my kids at my place.
I don't even have my kids over at my place anymore.
This is why you need to be very careful and be very thorough who you screw at night with. Because that 15-30 minutes of desperate/needed activity could lead to 18 years of unexpected/shocking duty.
Or wear a protection.
they are unfair I have my son living with me and I still pay child support
You just crazy as fuck, before I do that I would put a bullet in my own head
move
So you have full custody of your child and you still paying child support ? First of all are you sure you paying child support because it could be alimony. If yes is your ex wife also raising one or more child of yours ?
If a man falls behind on his child support he goes to jail. I have full custody of my daughters and their mom pays no support and the courts won't do ANYTHING about it. She's close to $30k behind now
child support is the worst shit ever. I dont mind paying cs but the child never actually gets the money. women should be forced to put some of the money in a bank account.
If child support wasnt such a winfall for the mother we'd have a lot less divorces.
If the other women realize the hardship theyd face after kicking out their breadwinner, there would be a lot less divorces. Sounds like a win-win for society.
fact!!!
Child support is for men who don’t want to take care of their children once they split with the mother. If men don’t like child support take care of your damn kids or don’t have any in the first place and there wouldn’t be court to force men to do it. I pay child support and I don’t whine about it.
Fair enough
@@HazelGreen64 im a great father with 50/50 joint custody and still forced to pay child support because baby momma wont get a job its not about the child its baby momma support
@@martianfromspace8292 well I have sole physical and legal custody for 2 years and I'm still paying child support. Ex was fighting against joint custody because he wanted sole custody. He almost ended my child's life but thank goodness my child ran away to find me. Now I pay medical bills and child support since 2019 until my court case is heard later this month and I'm not crying about it. It is what it is and I have to pay it or else my license gets suspended. Yea my ex was lazy and stayed past his Visa and still allowed to stay here and use the system. Your story isn't special.
Notice every woman says "yes its fair" while men are saying "how am i supposed to pay my bills?" Imagine you make 25k a year and your ex makes 43k and you're still paying her 600 a month. Nothing like seein a 550 paycheck dwindle down to 200 after child support and taxes
I was bringing home 200 a week . Lost my apartment due to child support. Now I work under the table and ask her wat they need instead of sending money just tell me wat they need and I’ll get it sent asap or u can pick it up at the store just let me know I’ll definitely get it done it ain’t hard
@@mrfanatic2292 lucky you. Most of our exs out there are vindictive and just care about the money
@@imposter0shadow I was providing more money for my kids than the state it’s not evening out. She even mentioned it wasn’t worth it . I had no choice but to start working under the table just to pay bills and still provide for my kids . My home boy on child support and his daughter is at his house 85% of the time . I’m like bruh go to court . He said he rather not do all that .
@@mrfanatic2292 fo real. Courts dont give af about a man strugglin. Judge straight up told me get a second job then told me i couldn't handle 50/50 custody cus i was working all the time psh
This is exactly what’s happening to me.
One of the many, many reasons to stay away from women
What is child support if all the mother wants is money?
hold a few few lawmakers to the same level and the shit will change real quick
Apparently you can just write their names on birth certificates... Laws would change REAL fast if some hoodrat started naming the governor as the daddy!!
Child Support SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.
@Sup2000 Simple as that Then you are ignorant of the corruption.
@Sup2000 Simple as that Yes, you are. The man should be required to take car of the child for 1/2 of the time, not pay anything to the mother. What you are proposing is just as crazy as giving the child to the man and have the mother pay him cs.
Mom asks when am I gonna have my first child. I tell her in my dreams where they belong. Father asks when I'm going to have my first child. I answer when I become a millionaire.
So what about woman like my mother who give up all 6 of her children to the state with no consequences?
This Video is 14 years old and nothing has changed.
The system will never be fair for the father
Of Course Women Don’t Think It’s Unfair 🤦🏽♂️
DONT GET MARRIED
Women say they want equality, well let's make it equal in every aspect...
Everything government touch turns in shit , this is not fair
Why the fuck hasn't somebody done something about this shit
because everyone is scared, and us people going through this including myself. are scared, worn out, no motivation. that's why us men have commited suicide and go get on drugs.
I paid for everything for my son health insurance, clothes, food and sent him to his mother's with food along with him staying with me every other week. The court still wanted me to pay child support. Until I pointed out that our son was 13 and his mother still refused to get a job while he was at school.
i knew a fella that lived in a van for 15 years because he simply couldnt afford to live anywhere due to c.s.
Walking into the Child Support office makes me sick. Where is this task force, because they need to visit Franklin County, and Bloomsburg county of Pennsylvania. For almost 10 years now, my ex has claimed to be a stay at home mom. our son is going on 12. She recently had a forth child, and graduated from a University with a bachelor's degree. This I pay 515 a month and all medical monthly plan for our son, just because she is a stay at home mom. "stay at home mom" has become a norm, for a lot of women. It's a business, to maintain their lifestyle and American Dream. Pennsylvania has a share income law, and I only saw my income on the calculation sheet. I tried contacting my representative here and senator to talk about some changes and they don't want to hear about it. Child Support system is still broken, and incompetent people in the system make vital decisions for the hard working everyday. These vital decisions impact our lives. This task force needs to come to Pennsylvania PLEASE!!! THOU SHALT NOT RATION JUSTICE!!!
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Ha, cleaning. Do you intend to have people take you seriously by bringing up stereotypes? So what would be the first mess males created since they've been fucking up since time began? Also, when exactly is your new world order going to take place? I want to have my seat in advance so I can have my popcorn ready when watching it fail. Women have way more opportunities now. They even have opportunities given simply because of their gender. That hasn't stopped them from being unable to fix the world. I'm sure being gay or a woman will definitely make a difference in the bigger scheme of things.
See, ignore the gender warlord. They come off as a woman mad at the fact that her lifestyle isn't being funded through more child extortion. Have you spoken to your congressman? Also look to have the amount you pay lowered. It may take time. But if they are not following the laws, their ruling on the matter is null and void.
Shon McClure LOL definitely. People like that don't get to me. It shows lack of intelligence and the low level of competence. As far as what you mentioned, as soon as a woman labels herself a "stay at home mom" it is set in stone until a child turn 18. My son is 11. He doesn't need a stay at home mom.This means that even if she has 3 or 4 she can use that as a reason or excuse to stay home, bitch and complain about how me as a man can't understand how hard it is to raise kids. Well, if it's hard and expensive to raise 1 even 2, it's going to be harder to raise 4. So why make your life harder? I think it's also selfish because each kid can get less time with a parent, and I think this is where" free range parenting" can come into play. Or why kids spend 40 hours a week in front of a TV. Kids start raising themselves because the parent is tired and use the "stay at home mom" reason to go to school full time or they're tired. In any case, our country isn't like China in the way that is we can't tell people to stop producing. In conclusion, I can't tell my ex wife to stop having kids with her husband, it's not my place, but i wish she and other women stop living at others expense through life. Have 5 kids, but you must come up with the means of raising them through your own pocket.
Shon McClure Wars, poverty, racism, sexism, etc. All created by men. Women still don't have a lot of opportunities despite the advancements they have made. It is already been proven that women tend to be more gentle and have more heart and are more able to use their heads instead of their brawn and work to better the world. Men are more testosterone-driven. Just look up the achievements made by women.
My advice is to bring that legtimimate point up to the state. Have you considered getting custody if you're in a place where'd you be able to raise the child? For lack of better term thr mother sounds like a piece of shit. She seems like someone who can't take care of herself without someone else funding her. Those kids will suffer because of her incompetence. Seriously, invoke your constitutional rights. The courts are supposed to be about the law and not money right?
GET RID OF CHILD SUPPORT!
The court system is tearing apart kids and parents, I have seen it first hand. That is the sad part of all of this.
Overwhelmingly. And underwhelmingly applied to deadbeat mothers.
In the state of MA the mother is NOT required to work until the child is age 5. How is that fair? My husband and I have to pay $1000 a month and the other isn't required to work. She doesn't work and refuses to allow us to see or take the child. So that would not only give us a chance to bond but also take financial burden off us so we don't have to lose our apartment and go bankrupt. Also giving her time to go to work! My husband and I work 5-7 days a week and she works nothing. How is that fair? There is a clear sweat equity issue in this state!
Damn that is messed up and I thought Indiana was bad.
carlos rogers its insane!
That would make me blow up.
carlos rogers Its hard to survive and yes very hard not to blow up. We want to support Lilly but not at $1000 a month. We were struggling to just make it with an extra $400 left at the end of the month. They don't call the State of MA the "common wealth" for no reason lmfao.
Lol damn.....That's crazy Christine 1000 a month for one child...JESUS
Why are you having kids. When you broke!!!!!!!???
When I was in the u.s.army a friend of minds was paying 500 dollar a month from hos own pocket.but someone told his baby mama since he is in the army she can get more.so the baby mama took him to court.and he was told he had to pay 235 a month.and he already had his kid on medical insurance.the baby mama was mad.at him and.so now she would not let him see the kid unless he start paying 500 a month again.he took her court.snd she told the judge that she want let him see the his kid until he pays more.so now my friend got full custody.and he raised his son and now he finish college.and a good job.she had nothing to do with her child since my friend got custody.this was of course was years ago.and now my friend son has his own house.and career in the army which he is a major.this was in 1991.father and son both retired.the father a retired sgt.major and his son retired lt.col.such a long time.
Good story..that right there my friend is what ol diablo and child support work so hard to stop
The system is literally a joke, The law is fucked.
Preach it!!! Spread the word. That's how we can change it.
I am SO getting a vasectomy when I grow up
Would love to hear their reactions if it was women who were paying child support. I`m sure they`d be jumping up and down screaming it`s not fair.
That shit is a straight up scam
Demolished child support period
well i got cheated on now. i dont get to see my daughter. and i pay way to much money to support my cheating ex wife. the court system need to focus on justice. which in my case i got screwed for believing in a family
same here, she cheats, but courts won't allow they why's or what for in court. Morals don't count. My ex wife suggested family counseling I bit and dropped my custody case, she waited until I took some out of town work and pounced on it......the paralegal ex knew she'd win. The ad litem for the child determines the custody by asking who gave more baths and fed the child the most...nothing else considered so I lose. I had one of the best attorney's in town, but not enough against a family court with one thing on their mind....matching federal dollars...the working dad or the stay at home cheating mother. This is why society is becoming more and more screwed up......they place family values second over the income.
Earl Crabb Try being in NJ. I was my kids primary caregiver even though I worked more hours. The courts could care less. I have the Y chromosome and both parents work, thus she must be the custodial parent. The really ironic piece is during the separation she wanted the time with the kids to be 75% me and only 25% her, but her attorney convinced her that would hurt her case. I pay her child support even though we both make excellent incomes as long term technology senior engineers. So even though she doesn't need it to provide them a good home and even though we have them 50% time each I pay her child support.
Almost the same thing here. Read my other post. I will pray for you brother. I know what your going through.
Same story here.
Chris Bartolini I hear that! As much as I would have like to have squeezed the life out of that bitch, unfortunately I would have been Prime Suspect #1 and NEVER have gotten away with it and my son would have been left for Foster Care Hell.
1. Yes Child Support laws are favored towards women, as the majority of people paying for child support are men.
2. With child support, there is no limit, as it is based on a percentage of income, and not the recommended or required amount to raise a child. Usually it is at least 15% of the income, and average around an additional 10% per child.
3. By no means men, do not have children, because you will lose in most cases. Instead get a vasectomy, and before that always use condoms, and other birth control methods, and never trust a woman when she said she is on the pill, or other things, because women trap men by pregnancy, which is a 18 year debt to be paid minimum, and even longer in other cases.
shit i make 1900 net they base it off my gross... i pay 49 percent for 2 kids 843 a month and im left with 1057 for my car, rent, insurance, food, gas, phone for the month!!!
Holy shit he makes 1600 a week and brings home 1200 because of child support and still lives with parents lol guy must not no how to manage his cash lol
Osvaldo Cervantes still has to care for the kid on the weekends
Right!? I was thinking the same damn thing
@Kenneth Boyer he said he brings home 1600 a week...so after taxes? Unless im wrong
Listen 1600 a month ain't shit where I live. A studio apartment starts at 1200. Wth, my mom raised 4 kids alone no child support straight out the projects, works for the Pentagon, about to retire. So a lazy ass women ,who uses children to make a living for self ain't shit. Hell yeah it's unfair.
The system is broken for example why shouldn’t aa man paying child support be allowed to claim their child as a dependent? At least every other year. Still not convinced? Why can’t the money used to support your child at least get a tax exemption? It’s totally broken. It’s like we are being punished for having a kid.
2700 a month is more then minimum wage why do kids get that much food is only $200 tops !!!!!
They always require the man to have full-time employment yet they let women get away with part-time employment or no employment at all... yeah that sounds fair
There NEEDS to be oversight on how this money is spent! Its an easy cash grab for womans shoe collections.
Child Support is not supposed to be a death sentence.
I pay child support and I’m not dying. Y’all men are really pathetic whining babies crying that you have to take care of your kids once you split from the mother. Bunch of wanna be deadbeats.
99 Bottles of Bleach it’s based off income. They get thrown in jail for not paying.
99 Bottles of Bleach whatever dude. Men need to take care of their kids. They’re not the only ones paying child support. If the fee is unaffordable it can get remodified. As long as it’s being paid the parent is fine. I pay child support and I don’t whine about it.
@@HazelGreen64 You are a fucking idiot. Are you a feminist?
@@HazelGreen64 You say you don't whine about child support but are you paying more than you can afford and living in a tiny flat or back at home with parents unable to afford a decent standard of living. If not then it's easy for you to say men shouldn't whine. Many men can't get their child support payments reduced in many states because alot of courts don't care that these men are expected to pay out most of their wages and not be able to afford housing or food. It's a scam. Women aren't sent to prison when they don't pay their child support like a father is. The system is biased and corrupt. It shouldn't be based on income and some mothers don't actually spend child support on the children but themselves instead. The money should be given a different method to stop it being used on anything other than the child.
Are child support laws unfair? Dang right they are! My brothers ex girlfriend cheated on him while he worked to put food on the table and she sat at home. She ended up shacking up with the guy in his car while addicted to meth and despite all of that, family court saw fit to award her custody plus a generous child support sum of 800 dollars a month for 2 kids. This shouldn't be a burden for guys like my brother to bear. He's a victim. He worked his a__ off to provide for his family. And because his ex was bored or somehow unsatisfied with her sedentary life, she repayed his generosity by screwing some other guy and becoming a drug user for which the state has now become an enabler. Something's gotta be done about this. The system is severely flawed.
Lies they get a cut of your money its discusting and should be stopped !!!!
"I'm not greedy by any means," she says, wearing new clothes and makeup.
its totally unfair!!!
Hell yeah !!! It's everywhere !!! If women are so liberated. End THIS Draconian law.
Women- I'm a girl boss, and I'm strong and independent. I don't need a man.
Also women- I want alimony, child support, the house, the kids, and everything else.
Seems they are strong and independent, yet still want to rely on men to be an atm.
Very unfair...
Support the children, not the other parent..
There should be base pay for necessity, not over pay..
It's not meant to buy a house..
Best thing to do, never get married or have sex. No divorce or children to worry about.
There should be a flat amount. The laws are ridiculous!!! I think men get screwed.
Everyman should pay support. But it should be based on income & time each parent spends with the child. Their should be a cap on the amount of child support can be paid. Plus the one whom receives support it should be counted as earned income.
For these guidlines to be fair, then 50% of children should be living with their father, and 50% should be living with their motehr.
child support is run under trust laws. why most men don't understand how not to get screwed
Most women just love the child support collection system! And why wouldn’t they seeing it benefits them and basically leaves the man broke, busted and disgusted! Child support collection system is so unevenly balanced it’s sickening!!! They take all your money then say enjoy your parenting time!!!! How? I can’t even afford to take my child for a happy meal🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬! The system needs to be completely overhauled!!!
I totally 💯 % agree in supporting my kids but within reason!!!! It’s unreasonable to cause someone to go bankrupt to pay 💰 child support!! Anyways, what 2 year old blows through $1200.00 a month? Yea I know childcare can be expensive but how about when mom is throwing Grandma a few bucks under the table and then claim she’s paying 2-300 dollars a week for daycare with no receipt or documentation!!!
I realize now why a lot of men decided on visectomy!!!!
Child Support Collection System uses punitive measures rather than corrective measures to promote unity between parents! The system basically pits parents against one another
Its called child support mothers take advantage and spends it on themselves the law needs to change
Child support is very fair.... bwa ha ha ha!!!
Says a woman!!!
I just want some consistency.
-If you believe a Woman should be free to have an abortion then the Man should be free to drop all of his Paternity Rights and not be legally forced to pay child support.
-If you think that a Women does not have the right to abort an unwanted pregnancy and that the Man should strive to support her in every way he can then that is also not being biased or hypocritical towards the severity of the situation.
Whichever side of that fence you're on is okay, in my opinion. This is a complex issue with no simple solutions that will please everyone. But I hate the inconsistency some people have...particularly Women who want the right to decide whether or not they want a kid but meanwhile believe they can take away that same right from a Man.
Child support and support your kids are not the same. Their incentive is to get 66 cents per dollar.
50/50 shared custody. And I pay medical from my pay checks. I make 70k, and ex makes 50k. I have to pay child support. It's a joke, I already have my kids 50 percent, so I need to feed them, cloth them, drive them, keep a roof over their heads on my time. And I pay for when it's not my time? She's remarried to a guy with a big brand new house, kids have their own rooms there. My kids and I share a 2 br apartment. My son and I share a room. Her husband's income doesn't count, yet the court says child support is to make sure kids have a equal lifestyle in both homes. Um, it's real unequal. I also pay for all 3 kid's cellphones, because she refuses and she can. Cellphones bills not applicable in family court. They don't "need" them. So she uses the rules to not help me pay for them because I already was, am. It's all a big fkn joke.
we need to organize a national march on washington dc they do this because we are not standing together we need to start getting political to make some changes
where do I get help for child support. .. it's very difficult to continue living knowing your innocent. .
Getting railed isn’t fun...then they wonder y dads become depressed and never recover. The more you make the more they snatch.
From my perspective, family courts gave incentives to custodial parents (re: mothers) to work to prevent generous visitation to the child's visitor because the more time the visitor had with the kids the less $$ mom got. So it seems that is no longer being considered in MA; cool
At least these guys get to see their childrenif you were black you would not see your children at all you have money being forced out of your pay and some child support should be abolish
Child Support is broken!
I went trough all this shit my self and is not fun and women do their best to keep the kids for all the help the got from the system !! free food, low rent, free medical and free money, NO BECAUSE THEY LOVE their Kids !! the kids are their free meal ticket for a lot of women