A HAIL OF BULLETS - Gley 'Blood and Iron' Build + Boss Frenzy Manipulation Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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    Blood lady go brr.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Sorry!
    00:07 - How do Gley's skills work?
    06:00 - What does Blood and Iron do?
    07:30 - Descendant Modules
    14:00 - Weapon Choices & Modules
    18:00 - Elemental Weakness Multipliers
    20:46 - Reactor Choice & Ideal Lines
    22:34 - Crit Fishing Weapon & Modules
    25:28 - External Components
    28:20 - I don't use a resistance module!
    29:45 - Frenzy Manipulation Guide
    34:26 - Closing Words
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  • @Saintone
    @Saintone  22 дня назад +45

    I wanted to put in a little more effort than the last time I tried to make this guide a few days ago. The old one was taken down so I could revise it.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Sorry!
    00:07 - How do Gley's skills work?
    06:00 - What does Blood and Iron do?
    07:30 - Descendant Modules
    14:00 - Weapon Choices & Modules
    18:00 - Elemental Weakness Multipliers
    20:46 - Reactor Choice & Ideal Lines
    22:34 - Crit Fishing Weapon & Modules
    25:28 - External Components
    28:20 - I don't use a resistance module!
    29:45 - Frenzy Manipulation Guide
    34:26 - Closing Words
    [FAQ]
    - Is this the strongest Gley build?
    A: No, the Vestigial Organ rocket launcher build is currently at least twice as strong as this build. But I think it's too OP so I only bothered showcasing it on stream, but didn't run it myself.
    - What lines should I roll on my weapons?
    A: Firearm ATK%, Damage to Colossus are always safe bets. An elemental damage line is typically good as well. Critical damage is decent if your weapon is 20%+ base critical chance. Critical rate is pretty good as well if 30%+ base firearm critical chance. Weak point damage is always good.
    - How much did you spend overall?
    A: About $190USD total. It was a stupid mistake to buy the $100 Ultimate Gley, it would've been smarter to just buy the non-Ultimate Gley + Energy Activator. Reason below. I also had to re-Forma 6 times in total while revising my build, which was a $20 waste. I also bought Blair though I didn't really play him, so that was also a $10 waste. But maybe not if I play him when I come back?
    - Where did you farm Kuiper?
    A: The mission on the right in Echo Swamps. I found that spot on day one and called it the best Kuiper farm because I felt so proud finding it but a better Kaipur farm popped up less than two days later.
    - What's the difference between Gley and Ultimate Gley?
    A: Almost nothing! Ultimate Gley starts off with two extra polarity slots. She also has ~2,000 extra defense at level 40, which with the one defense mod we have equates out to ~5,500 extra defense. That sounds like a lot, but in terms of DR it's likely completely negligible when end build is typically well over 40,000 and damage reduction from defense is likely logarithmic (meaning the first defense points matter more). HP and offensive values are otherwise exactly the same and Ultimate exclusive modules look unimpressive.
    - What did you like and dislike about The First Descendant?
    A: The gameplay loop was fun. The game also has the best cross-platform cross-region interconnectivity of any modern release as of late. It was really impressive, though the Microsoft servers were pretty unstable. The gunplay felt fine. I liked the gun SFX. The story seemed fine, but the way they told the story and the Korean to English localization was terrible. I completely lost interest early on due to the poor storytelling style. Monetization is egregious, but I'm hoping that if they copy Warframe's trade system it can resolve itself from its overpriced goods. The end content and encounters were relatively boring stat-check fights with sometimes bullshit unavoidable attacks (most of the time they were fine).
    - Should I get Ultimate Gley or Ultimate Bunny?
    A: This came up a lot. To be honest, I felt like since they give you Bunny through normal gameplay in the first hour, that buying Ultimately Bunny seemed pointless. Bunny is far superior at grinding mobs. Gley is a stronger bosser, but she's also only as strong as the most powerful gun since she scales it hard. If guns were nerfed or weaker, Bunny would be able to out-damage her through high ability damage in tandem with shooting.
    - What is one piece of advice that you have for new players?
    A: Always be crafting Control Axis. You'll need hundreds of them. If you're in town, stop by the research lady and craft another 20x. If you do a lot of Kuiper farming you should usually have materials. And, External Components can roll lines on them that include things like increased Descendant EXP, increased firearm proficiency, and increased currency gains. Save a set of these for when you're farming, it'll really go a long way.
    - Does firearm proficiency do anything?
    A: Not really. It doesn't impact your damage in any way. But much like Descendant mastery level, at max level (before you reset it) it grants a few extra module capacity.
    - What is Forma?
    A: It's a process whose term comes from Warframe. By using a special material, you can reset the level of a Descendant or a weapon back to 1. Doing so, lets you add what's called polarity to one of the module slots. If you put a module with matching polarity on this slot, it will cost half the module capacity. Repeating this process allows you to equip several high level modules whereas normally you wouldn't be able to have the space. All Descendants come with two polarity slots unlocked by default and Ultimate variants come with four. You can Forma an item on all module slots, but doing so will leave you with little flexibility, as placing a module with a mismatched polarity actually increases the module capacity cost...
    - How do you get to 85 module capacity on your Descendant? I thought 80 was the cap?
    A: If you Forma the sub weapon module slot, it'll give you 50% more module capacity from the sub weapon. So normally, it gives you 10 capacity, with the slot matching the polarity of the module, it can give an extra 5, raising the max to 85.

    • @untitled4841
      @untitled4841 21 день назад

      Wait, are you done for now? You said you'd play Blair if you come back..

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад +1

      @@untitled4841 I'd like to but I don't know how long it'll take before I can play again. The upcoming MMO patch I'm covering will take me a while to comb over.

    • @palegod
      @palegod 21 день назад

      Ultimate Bunny does actually make a huge difference, because she has a skill mod (High-Voltage) that regular Bunny cannot use, and that mod is what allows her to compete (and often win) against the boss-killers like Gley. I don't have the mod yet because it's an extremely rare drop from hard mode Pyro, but I've watched Moxsy use it to drop hard mode Devourer in under two minutes. I've yet to see any other descendants come close to that much dps, even the Gley cheese build.

    • @TheMoonwings
      @TheMoonwings 21 день назад

      I asked me if you could combine the rocket launcher if you use it as a third weapon that you have more opportunitys

    • @untitled4841
      @untitled4841 21 день назад

      ​@Saintone I see. You said you Forma'd 6 times revising your build. For newer players with Ult. Gley (and starting with 4 polarity slots), how many Forma will it take to get to the final build?

  • @sherpagoolsbee8390
    @sherpagoolsbee8390 22 дня назад +7

    I love that you are covering this game. Or at least you find it interesting enough to give it a look. Thanks for the video!

  • @xscori
    @xscori 13 дней назад +3

    The most informative video I have seen on the subject. Great work, dude!

  • @FadyButSpooky
    @FadyButSpooky 22 дня назад +5

    thanks for the updated guide mr saint

  • @kotorknight
    @kotorknight 22 дня назад +4

    I came for the Gley tips to figure out what I was missing with massacre... Learned a whole ton about colossi overall!

  • @thomaszombie7437
    @thomaszombie7437 22 дня назад +2

    I'm glad to see you're covering this game :)

  • @jojojaigere6182
    @jojojaigere6182 21 день назад

    Thx man. The best gley guide so far.

  • @timmy10555
    @timmy10555 21 день назад +1

    Incredible video huge fan keep em coming ❤

  • @Bungee_Gum
    @Bungee_Gum 21 день назад

    My man You are doing God's work with this thank you i needed it!

  • @Mobambius
    @Mobambius 20 дней назад

    Love your dedication to testing everything out and getting the best build possible. Time to grind out those mods pepeW

  • @louis0nfire
    @louis0nfire 10 дней назад

    Amazing guide, as expected. Good to see you making content for TFD.

  • @Valeerya
    @Valeerya 22 дня назад

    Awesome Guide! Thank u very much!

  • @sentinelblood4848
    @sentinelblood4848 22 дня назад +7

    Loved the TFD content the last few days Saintone! Good luck with Tier4 in Lost Ark. Hope to see some more Gley soon !

  • @VaporGearhead
    @VaporGearhead 18 дней назад +3

    “Long grind” is an understatement for that class mod

  • @theingsinator2567
    @theingsinator2567 21 день назад +2

    I just wanna aim and shoot with L1 and R1 tbh thats all im kind of wanting but this was a great guide, not seen anyone give a good guide of gley than you

  • @blackkat101
    @blackkat101 22 дня назад +16

    Oh wow. I remember watching your channel a lot when I used to play Lost Ark.
    Didn't even notice it was your channel and was watching Last Descendant build videos (as they can be hit and miss) and thought this one was really well done and seemed to be in a style I was familiar with (in a good way, loved the details as well as actually showing it off and so on). Then I looked at the name finally after finishing the video and went "OH!, that's why this video was done well).

    • @blackkat101
      @blackkat101 21 день назад +1

      Want to add thoughts on Ultimate Weapons/choices for your build:
      - You chose your Blue Blood Bloomer for the 999 RoF, the Python, while you said it's DEF Debuff doesn't work with Massacre, it does have a high 923 RoF. It also has a base of 10% Crit Rate, not 5% as you mentioned int he video (so only 2% less than the BBB you use). Much lower base Crit DMG though, at x1.3 (BBB has a base of x1.5). But in the end, this is again to give you an Ultimate to be able to use the better Reactors....
      - On Thunder Cage, it has a base of 666 RoF, but a much higher 20% base Crit Rate. Along with a really nice base of x2.0 Crit DMG. Thunder Cage has an added benefit of course being an amazing mobbing weapon when not using for bosses too.
      Now... does Thunder Cage's special detonation on kills work with Massacre? I would like to know that.
      As Python's doesn't, that would be something in Thunder Cage's favor if used in mobbing for spamming explosions with unlimited ammo....
      As for Hand Cannon Ultimate choices (not to be matched to the reactor, just for another gun to use, SMG obviously matched...):
      - Perforator can break shields quickly on hitting weakpoints and stuns things on breaking said shields. It's not bad but has a low (for a Hand Cannon) Crit Rate of 20%. Honestly wouldn't be my choice for this Gley of yours, since you want those Crit Procs.
      - Nazeistra's Devotion however seems like it would be the best pick. Matching the Hand Cannon you're using, it has a high base of 36% Crit Rate, which is great. It also has two abilities, of which you will only have to use the good one. When hitting an enemy's weak point, it places a -10% DEF Debuff for 3s every time it hits. This is quite amazing, especially if using to support other teammates. The second ability is normally considered a detriment, hitting an ally with a shot will restore 10% of their shields at the high cost of 85 MP. This can drain even MP stacking descendants in 2-3 shots just by accidentally hitting an ally. Gley however has no MP, thus this is never a problem as the ability will not proc if one doesn't have enough MP.
      On the 3rd slot,
      - Not an Ultimate, but the Launcher of choice seems to be the Vestigial Organ. The Launcher with the highest Rate of Fire. This is the main weapon used when people are showing off the "INFINITE AMMO GLEY" builds. They're not using Massacre when doing this. Just spamming rockets until the thing dies. For a Launcher, it has a crazy 199 RoF (all other Launchers have a RoF ranging from 50-80, with the average at 65 or so....).
      - Restored Relic has that low 60 RoF, so not winning any favors here. The ability is that it has Guided Rockets at a set chance. Would be cool if this worked with Massacre, but this isn't looking like a great choice. Even if just using it for the normal infinite ammo and having occasional homing shots, you'd want to aim them all at the target anyway....
      - Sigvore’s Proof is a bit faster at 79 (so top of Launcher's in that aspect outside of the outlier that is Vestigial Organ...). It's ability makes it so that its rockets are sticky bombs when using aim shot. Blowing up after sticking to an enemy for a period of time. When canceling aiming, they blow up right away. These sticky bombs cause Burn damage on explosion. Sounds like it could be fun, but not really worth it for infinite ammo shenanigans unless those sticky bombs have an insane multiplier on them. I'd stick with Vestigial Organ as popularity demands.

    • @blackkat101
      @blackkat101 19 дней назад

      Another note, since you said you worried about Ammo if using the same type of weapon.
      Since your 3rd slot isn't really being used, you can actually over double your Ammo Capacity at no cost other than upgrading two modules.
      Choose a weapon of the ammo type you want to increase with (in this case General Rounds).
      On the this extra weapon, we now turn it into an Ammo Mule by putting on:
      - Blue: Expand General Magazine
      - Purple: General Rounds Compulsive
      (you can again do this for any ammo type, works the same)
      With both, you now increase the amount of General Rounds from 400 (outside of the clip) to 839!
      You do have to pick up the ammo with this gun though, so you have to swap to it when you pick up ammo off the ground, but that's a little price to pay for being able to hold so much.
      This is especially useful for those who love the Tamer and eat through ammo.
      In a Colossus fight, a single General Round pickup from an mob gives +400 rounds, so you can easily pick this up and won't generally let any go to waste either.
      Of course, swapping back to your main weapon of choice will not cause you to lose the extra ammo you're carrying, despite not having the mod on that gun.

  • @mayoren9083
    @mayoren9083 21 день назад

    Aw man leaving already?! I loved your guides especially when I played Lost Ark and I got excited when I saw this build pop up on my feed because I knew I could trust your builds and that they were gonna be insanely fun and solid. I understand, but I hope you come back to play this game someday! Best of luck in T4 and all!

  • @jaquaygaston3414
    @jaquaygaston3414 20 дней назад +1

    I’ve seen a few builds that went focus singular to help with frenzied. Is relying or trying to boost your frenzy skill not worth it also?

  • @karistonluphus91
    @karistonluphus91 21 день назад

    TY, love your Guide! Finally, someone who explains all the thoughts that should go into a Buildguide and the intricate mechanics to think about .... and not like the scammy yt that got 5 mods in their character and tell u to press more buttons.
    Thank you this is truly amazing!

  • @worldboss-_-gaming5138
    @worldboss-_-gaming5138 21 день назад

    Great video!!! Subbed

  • @Machobunni
    @Machobunni 14 дней назад

    When I started playing day 1, I labeled the Blue Blood Bloomer as my favorite gun. You sold me on this build when you said you use BBB

  • @lunavongreymore1939
    @lunavongreymore1939 21 день назад +1

    finally i can enjoy her more as a gley main ty so much 10/10 Guide

    • @cgukhaos4144
      @cgukhaos4144 18 дней назад

      Facts, I like launcher for farming but I knew there was better bossing builds

  • @ponza2538
    @ponza2538 22 дня назад +1

    Its back the best one

  • @Kieruvmp
    @Kieruvmp 19 дней назад +1

    why not use focus non-attribute? it gives 77% and cdr while dimension master only adds up to about 75 or so?

  • @hiloish
    @hiloish 18 дней назад

    Just wanted to say the build is good. In terms of accuracy for a hard mode boss like frost walker with a group. Spamming rockets with gley isn’t going to cut it since you can’t hit the weak points to farm embers. Anyone who has reached frost walker knows you need 7 embers in the first 2 minutes. The Insta kill freeze happens at 7:25. Rockets will only likely get you so far before your simply just hitting a non-weak point.
    Massacre is simply a more reliable/controlled dps on smaller weak points or to destroy a weak point without increasing boss frenzy.
    Most of the player base are still hard stuck on pyro/hangedman (normal) which is just a straight DPS check.
    This build works really well for frost walker. Bravo!

  • @duyly2942
    @duyly2942 9 дней назад

    Ty for the build. I'm grinding for this

  • @xiiAtoMicZ84
    @xiiAtoMicZ84 18 дней назад

    if this is the guide i watched like last weekend, im gonna be so happy. i was like where tf did it go?

  • @lazwolv
    @lazwolv 3 дня назад

    Happy to see Saintone on this game since I don’t play Lost Ark anymore

  • @yeetus-8383
    @yeetus-8383 17 дней назад +2

    A COMMENT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY PIN! Blood and iron is nothing compared to Massive Sanguification. b&i is safer maybe, but the MS mod doesn’t tell you that in frenzy state, using your 2 gives you 3 power of life. Its an instant massacre build and with the annihilation set and walking a tightrope is 100% worth the health sacrifice

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  17 дней назад +1

      It's a cool tip! I didn't know about Massive Sanguification back when I cooked this build. I'll have to play around with it the next time I get the chance to play the game.

  • @vthreats
    @vthreats 22 дня назад +1

    You are such a goat

  • @shindo6649
    @shindo6649 19 дней назад

    Holy shit dude, u r absolute monster🎉 good job.

  • @SixRwby
    @SixRwby 22 дня назад +7

    Dude you have no idea..
    The other day i remeber watching a video of blood and iron, and i didn't find it anymore... I swear i almost go crazy for that one 😅
    Also, nice build, new sub

  • @Plague_xyz
    @Plague_xyz 3 дня назад +1

    So im a little late but what red mod should i use on her before j get blood and iron

  • @unkwxnx
    @unkwxnx 20 дней назад

    what i dont get is why am i doing fire dmg when i have electric dmg instead. it shows like im doing fire, toxic, & electric. cant figure out why im doing different elemental dmgs.

  • @TheMoonwings
    @TheMoonwings 21 день назад

    Hey which changes on modules for the weapon would you do if you play with the thundercage instead of the blue smg ? And what do you mean with changing the ammo in another typ which module is it ? Because i am thinking about to use the python as weakpoint killer and the thundercave for burst or you use the pistol i think with maximum of weakpoint dmg

  • @quinnmann3153
    @quinnmann3153 21 день назад

    You can also get blood and iron from combining random transcendent mods, not a huge percentage chance but i got it from this and its been huge for my build

  • @Skypiercer1234
    @Skypiercer1234 21 день назад

    Are the skill power mods REALLY worth it though? The flat damage only makes up a small portion of the total from the numbers seen at 10:44. Like, you spend 32 points to go from 240k per shot to 260k. Or am I missing something?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад

      The handgun was just a demonstration of how much the mods increase it by! On an SMG with a significantly higher fire rate, the dimension damage accounts for a larger share of the overall damage vs. a hand cannon. Since the amount of dimension damage from Massacre is the same regardless of the damage of the firearm, the only way to make Massacre account for a decent amount of damage is by increasing the fire rate.

  • @jaydenharper1275
    @jaydenharper1275 14 дней назад

    Do i just have to combine modules and pray to rng god for blood & iron? I basically have everything in the build except it. Not all of my modules are upgraded, but it's all still there. What should I do and is there any sub?

  • @spechtmaxime4201
    @spechtmaxime4201 14 дней назад

    Litle question for you, you dont have a 100% time on massacre and infinite ammo with this build ?

  • @psych0tykgaming670
    @psych0tykgaming670 8 дней назад

    Please bear In mind if you intend to do a high fire rate build you need to be running a high frame rate. Unfortunately at the moment your rate of fire is tied to your fps. I don't recall the exact math but I believe at 120 fps the blue blood bloomer will shoot at the 999 rpm in the description. At 60 fps I believe you lose roughly 200 rpm.

  • @csanadtemesvari9251
    @csanadtemesvari9251 22 дня назад +34

    Bro made a guide about this sooner than lore ark AINTNOWAY

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад +20

      Caught...

    • @G-flo
      @G-flo 21 день назад +3

      SAINTONWAY

  • @johnathana6082
    @johnathana6082 21 день назад +1

    Where can you get blue blood bloomer? Anyone know?

  • @jasonzimmer7714
    @jasonzimmer7714 22 дня назад +3

    Curious how much money you spent on this build. ? couldnt have been cheap with all those forma and mod capacity.

    • @GoodBoyTurrola
      @GoodBoyTurrola 22 дня назад

      You get an energy capacitor for free twice, I think, from playing the campaign, and multiple forma too, just from quests. All pretty late game though

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @@jasonzimmer7714 Check the FAQ in the pinned comments. I spent a lot, but also spent very unnecessarily in some places and made a few mistakes.

    • @benhorner3518
      @benhorner3518 18 дней назад

      I'm free to play and I have 6 formas on my ultimate gley 3 on my tamer it's really easy to get

    • @SplitSeoul
      @SplitSeoul 12 дней назад

      @@benhorner3518no

    • @roonyroo855
      @roonyroo855 9 часов назад

      6 formas is 7 x 6 hours = 36 hours just under 2 days
      @@benhorner3518

  • @vincentwu2848
    @vincentwu2848 7 дней назад

    Whoa this is awesome, thanks for sharing! Do you think Python would be better than Blue Blood Boomer? Python's ROF is only about 30 less than the BBB but it has a stacking debuff that might swing in its favor..
    Also, have you tried Real Life Fighter? Based on the clips of you soloing colossus at the end.... RLF seems like it might slap even harder =X

  • @architype
    @architype 19 дней назад

    Can you make a short video on a gley build for someone mid story or coming to starting hard mode ?

  • @dpap123
    @dpap123 21 день назад

    Hmm... Do you think the python interaction is intended or a bug? If it is and they fix it im pretty sure python will just astronomically gap blue blood bloomer, but if its intended then technically blue blood is still better.
    I'm just not sure whether to keep levelling my tamer, start levelling a blue blood, or start levelling a python?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      I think if you're already deep into Tamer there's not really any harm in sticking with it, let alone switching to Blue Blood. Better to just consider Thunder Cage or Python, or just straight up stick with Tamer. I have no idea if the Python debuff not applying to Massacre is intended or not.

  • @Bearprobe
    @Bearprobe 20 дней назад

    What happens when you upgrade the Sub attack slot with a glyph? Dual Claw in this case? How does it calculate the cost? Is that what gives you that extra 5 capacity? Or is that from your Battle Rank level? being like 20? :)

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      That's where the 5 extra mod capacity comes from, that's right.

  • @thaswish1097
    @thaswish1097 21 день назад

    My only question/possible complaint bout the build is DPS without status effects. Adding an elemental mod or allowing that extra damage with it wouldnt apply to massacre? Is there a way for massacre to gain elemental damage?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад

      There is not, Massacre is only impacted by skill power, non-attribute, dimension modifier, skill crit rate, and skill crit damage.

  • @aegis-vii3071
    @aegis-vii3071 21 день назад

    Mr. SORCTONE I wanted to ask you a question because I love the build but the no resistance mod makes me curious, can you wonder why you don't use them?

    • @aegis-vii3071
      @aegis-vii3071 21 день назад

      Nvm i just got to the point in the video my b

  • @dragonmaster1599
    @dragonmaster1599 21 день назад

    also just so people know, the purple mod shield conversion (DEF) cost the same as blue DEF mod its a bit more to upgrade but if you really want to min max it gives 6.4% more DEF than the blue mod. not much but if you are being REALLY min maxy it is better

  • @dpap123
    @dpap123 19 дней назад

    Hey it's me again lol, so i was doing some more testing and do you think it's worth it to sub out walk a tightrope for nimble fingers?
    I've found that with nimble fingers and a cooldown roll on the reactor, you have 1.7s downtime on increased sensory, and never have to actually sheathe Massacre and re-gain the orbs with crit fishing. I know you touched upon it in the vid the chaining but like this method you don't even have to run around wasting time at all, as they almost perfectly link into each other.
    So if you get like a python Reactor with Cooldown on it, I feel this is completely insane because of even more skill power, and you just use crit fishing with blood and iron at the beginning of the fight and thats it
    Additionally, I wonder if that also implies that Mental Focus will just infinitely be at max stacks since you NEVER EVER EVER put the gun away.
    I'm not nearly as far in so I can't test the validity of these theories but thought it may be useful to point some of them out, as they sound really op in my head

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  19 дней назад +1

      Yeah there's no problem in doing that. Tightrope is more useful if you're playing in a group since you have 30 seconds downtime anyway but especially if you're soloing the lower downtime is certainly better.

    • @dpap123
      @dpap123 19 дней назад

      @@Saintone Got it thank you, forgot about the inherent downtime

  • @mytheon9138
    @mytheon9138 22 дня назад +1

    Have u actually tested the 1.3k thoroughly? I feel like that rpm is so fast that some of the dmg won't even register

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад +1

      @mytheon9138 This actually does happen whenever the server lags, some of the damage disappears.

  • @uuoo9674
    @uuoo9674 22 дня назад

    Do you happen to know if her fourth skill benefits from Python because it removes the enemy's non-attribute resistance? Thanks for the video!

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @@uuoo9674 Sadly no. Possibly a bug.

  • @jiggsywinky
    @jiggsywinky 21 день назад

    how did you farm mats for those? it's just been a week jeez

  • @miqueljames9
    @miqueljames9 13 дней назад

    Does dimension master actually do anything. When I look at the stats and test damage nothing changes????

  • @dpap123
    @dpap123 21 день назад

    Does this build do more damage than just the juiced CDR + Vestigial organ build in one increased sensory in optimal scenario? Even if the former has more DPS i think this one has the benefit of more burst + the ability to control the burst when you need it for your team + boss frenzy but idk the math

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      Definitely not. This build may be able to burst more in a short window but sustained over a long fight, those builds are designed to just shoot non-stop. They have noticeably higher overall DPS over the course of a fight.

  • @CtrlSaltDlt
    @CtrlSaltDlt 20 дней назад

    Can you substitute the Blue Blood Bloomer with the Thunder Cage and the same mods? I notice the Thunder Cage has a different forma for one of the slots, what could be substituted into that slot instead, or is it worth using a forma to redo that slot?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад

      You definitely can substitute it. But consider running more crit mods on Thunder Cage because it has base 20% crit chance.

  • @alexdgrier92
    @alexdgrier92 21 день назад

    Great explanation on the build. Only question is since machine guns have larger mags why not spec a tamer for this kind of build?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад +2

      You can, but Massacre damage isn't that high to begin with and it's a flat value, so this build mainly only works if you have a very high RPM on your gun.
      Tamer/Thunder Cage/Vestigial Organ builds mainly play around 100% uptime Increased Sensory instead since the raw bullet damage is so much higher compared to a high fire rate SMG.

  • @charalamposkallimanis9609
    @charalamposkallimanis9609 22 дня назад

    After seen this video I want to build Cley 100%. Thank you a LOT for the detailed explanation! Can you kill solo any hard boss with her?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @charalamposkallimanis9609 Yep! Except the ones you're forced to party up for of course.

  • @Madnsanity
    @Madnsanity День назад

    According to the description, power of life only increases the amount of bullets for massacre, so why would we need to build up power of life if we won't be consume bullets during massacre?

  • @Karlobermoller
    @Karlobermoller 21 день назад

    hey! what about using Nazeistra's devotion as a hand cannon? since it also has the -def on hitting weak point sounds like a good weapon for what you are using hand cannons for

    • @vincentwu2848
      @vincentwu2848 7 дней назад

      I use Naz's, it fires sooo slowly compared to his hand cannon

  • @TheDarkLight04
    @TheDarkLight04 21 день назад

    May i ask , where did you farm so MUCH weapon exp ? I did the rockfall kuiper farm and am barely getting one forma done :o

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад

      The defense mission in Sterile for a few hours!

  • @DigiCube4
    @DigiCube4 4 дня назад

    the no hud action...is truly just beautiful. god...what a beautiful game. gley's the shit.

  • @Prestegist08
    @Prestegist08 21 день назад

    Is it better to use Thundercage and Ultimate reactor over Purps? Regardless of the bonus lines? Or does the fire rate from Bluey make up the difference? Like take bonus lines out of the equation. Which one is better?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      Thunder Cage with Ultimate Reactor should result in more damage over the purple. It would forego some Massacre damage (due to less procs with lower fire rate) in return for substantially higher firearm damage.

    • @Prestegist08
      @Prestegist08 20 дней назад

      @@Saintone Both my reactors have the same bonus skill lines, skill duration up and dimension skill bonus.
      thanks for the reply saint. I know you’re busy with thousands of comments on all your content and making more content for us but it’s nice to get a reply for the first time. Been watching you for a few years now.
      Thank you for the info and I’ll always continue to support your content.

  • @ChildofEden96
    @ChildofEden96 17 дней назад

    Id also look into the python smg seems like it would be insane on gley fully kitted

  • @edwardgem9587
    @edwardgem9587 19 дней назад

    where did you guys farm your mental focus? any tips? because it has to be general round some mission have them but its the special round. What mission should i farm?

    • @dpap123
      @dpap123 19 дней назад

      Ransacked village hagios hard, warning its a really messed up mission imo, takes like 7 minutes if ur not completely optimized and still has the 5% drop

  • @Reiberino
    @Reiberino 21 день назад +1

    do you know if massacre gets skill crits or regular firearm crits? i only know that it takes on the rpm and atk (mods and whatnot), but what else does it use off the weapon in hand when used (say crit rate/dmg, attribute proc)?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      Skill crits and skill crit damage influence Massacre's proc!

    • @Reiberino
      @Reiberino 20 дней назад +1

      @@Saintone noice! ty :)

  • @fogz
    @fogz 14 дней назад +1

    Does gley need skill power or it only affects the life syphon 2nd skill? Her ultimate counts as skill power too or just firearm damage.

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  14 дней назад

      Ultimate Gley is bugged and receives improper scaling on Massacre compared to regular Gley at the time of writing this.
      But Massacre does benefit from all the skill power-related modules. It affects Siphon damage too but you never really use that for bossing.

    • @Noblessings
      @Noblessings 14 дней назад

      @@Saintone does it actually? unless im looking at the wrong number I genuinely think nothing skill dmg related affects it I was shooting leg of level 100 slayer and do 40-44k and 12-13k with or without a non attribute+dimension reactor/any skill power/any dimension power mods for the neutral dmg crit and elemental crit, my elemental mods arent maxed yet
      edit: ok nevermind it boosts all the small numbers i cant read cause of them all stacking on top of each other also now wanna do a full glass cannon build where you run 4 skill crit mods too might actually be able to shred every boss before you get one tapped like the funny 40mil dmg piercing light build
      you'd have 15% skill critical hit rate and 3.68x crit dmg modifier for all the massacre shots but giving up 4 mod slots rip but with your damage for example it should be 29835 x 3.68 = 109792.8 per massacre bullet and x 22 a second lmfao

  • @F2PGatchaGambler
    @F2PGatchaGambler 22 дня назад +9

    *sigh* buys $100 gley bundle

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад +6

      I felt like the $100 was actually a big mistake on my part.

    • @michaelgolden8859
      @michaelgolden8859 21 день назад +5

      Guide so good, we are out here buying the bundle. 😂

    • @paradoxnemesis
      @paradoxnemesis 21 день назад

      lmfao, same

  • @nophantom5168
    @nophantom5168 6 дней назад

    Thanks i wanted Gley so bad i got her and didnt even know how to use her LMFAO but she's well modded

  • @nicolow100
    @nicolow100 22 дня назад

    thanks a lot for the guide! So will you eventually swap over to one of the ultimate smgs once you get the corresponding legendary reactor? Or is blue blood bloomer's fire rate too good to pass?

    • @Chritter
      @Chritter 22 дня назад

      Curious about this as well. Beetle can't be optimal 🤔

    • @majendidthat
      @majendidthat 22 дня назад

      @@Chritterpython is probably the way for legendary

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @nicolow100 Python or Thunder Cage are likely ideal. Bloomer was just a quick no-farm option that worked with my time constraints and worked good enough.

    • @nicolow100
      @nicolow100 22 дня назад

      @@Saintone thank you for the clarification!

  • @yeaitsjohnnytv
    @yeaitsjohnnytv 21 день назад

    how did you farm catalyst so fast lol i can barely get the mats ? can you make a guide on that or explain besides the ones you bought from the shop?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад

      You only get a few catalyst from regular gameplay quest rewards! I bought the rest since I didn't have time to farm them before having to put down the game.

  • @minigaminghere6634
    @minigaminghere6634 18 дней назад

    As a rocket user myself, i feel like this build is way better than the rocket one and will prob build this one out. Still doing campaign so iy will prob take me a week or so

  • @CanduGame
    @CanduGame 21 день назад

    how to get 3 bubble? i nver get 1 bubble when i fight the bos

  • @SoSayWeAll06
    @SoSayWeAll06 16 дней назад

    Does anyone actually know if the 160% bonus from reactor mounting STAYS when using massacre? If not, then it makes the most sense to just use a purple reactor for the 140%. I havent been able to test this but im definitely curious

  • @godspell-.
    @godspell-. 21 день назад

    This is THE build

  • @MasterGaming234
    @MasterGaming234 20 дней назад

    Going the thunder cage route for your smg would mods should I use to take full advantage of the crit chance? How much of your smg build can it use?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  19 дней назад +1

      You definitely should take advantage of the base crit chance and use crit damage modifiers as well. Thunder Cage hits very hard in return for its lower fire rate.

    • @MasterGaming234
      @MasterGaming234 15 дней назад

      Cool I been using this bulid with other weapons other then thunder cage and just using her three I been seeing good results. Was going to tryout the executor shotgun with your build I know you said that the third weapons does not matter but I think that shotgun and the afterglow that will work with it

  • @purplexityairsoft5264
    @purplexityairsoft5264 22 дня назад +1

    Only going off of feel but it seems like the 50% healing reduction doesnt effect healing from hp collector

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @@purplexityairsoft5264 It does not. You get the full 9%.

  • @dominikb9202
    @dominikb9202 17 дней назад

    you can get a non-attribute dimension reactor from the ambush mission.

  • @davidparra1009
    @davidparra1009 16 дней назад

    Ey saint!! what would be a good build for Gley in early game, while you dont have blood and iron ? a good way to kill the other colosus

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  16 дней назад

      Any of the infinite ammo variations would work well for those. Those builds work really solidly at all stages of the game with low cost and easy set-up.

  • @Yshtola.
    @Yshtola. 10 дней назад

    I got blood and iron from combining random transcendant modules today woot woot

  • @faiz697
    @faiz697 22 дня назад

    i'm confused..where is handged man on hard mode ?

  • @RobvanBode
    @RobvanBode 22 дня назад

    So Blood and Iron also removes the heal effect. Not that 4% was that impactful but I was hoping to get healed for 4% on every crit.

    • @ARMAN35LEE
      @ARMAN35LEE 22 дня назад

      You can actually use HP Collector as well on this build, you get life orbs on most crits with blood and iron then use HP Collector to regain 100% HP on nearly every kill. Boost your DEF, use these two modules amd you’re literally more surviveable than Ajax

  • @danro7593
    @danro7593 21 день назад +6

    Really disappointed by the damage output of this build with how many catalysts you are showcasing. I have yet to put a single catalyst on my thrown together infinite loop Increased Sensory/Vestigial Organ build and I can kill the Devourer boss in nearly the same amount of time. My Vestigial Organ only has 3 mods on it, I haven't used an activator or anything. If I were to take the time to build the weapon it would probably out damage this by 3x at least. I really thought I was working toward an improved build when I was farming Blood and Iron but now it feels like I wasted my time.

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  21 день назад +2

      There's no contesting a Vestigial Organ build. That build is just straight up broken compared to anything else you could really run, so I chose not to play it and try to make a different build.
      A looping damage build version of this with the same set-up (lower cooldown of Increased Sensory) with the same loadout would kill Hard Devourer in ~25-30 seconds without having to wait since the second volley would down the boss immediately and go straight to kill (you can see I ran around a bit, waiting for its cooldown).
      But that's still not enough to match the damage of a no module Vestigial Organ build that can do it in 15-20 seconds, or a Lepic that can do it in 10.

    • @moosiemoose1337
      @moosiemoose1337 21 день назад

      Honestly yeah, and it locks gley into 1 play style whereas with a gun build gley you have room to try other weapons out.
      I've seen other gley putting out crazy amounts of damage with rifles.

    • @danro7593
      @danro7593 21 день назад +2

      @Saintone I can see the appeal of wanting to play something different but putting that much time and money into a build that under performs a build with no catalyst at all just seems bad. I don't have to play meta builds to have a good time but this kinda seems like polishing a turd if I'm being honest lol

    • @danro7593
      @danro7593 21 день назад

      @moosiemoose1337 It may not be original, but blasting a million rockets into somethings face is pretty fun and satisfying. But yeah just shooting the boss with my Thunder Cage still does a ton of damage. Currently with so little investment I can kill Devourer in like a minute and 20 seconds with Vestigial, but I think I can still kill it in under 2 minutes with Thunder Cage. The other bonus of the gun oriented Gley build is how little the reactor matters. I currently have a burn reactor on with cooldown and duration and it's just fine.

    • @moosiemoose1337
      @moosiemoose1337 21 день назад

      That's a good point. The other, other benefit is you don't care about ability power

  • @Sheluvantonio
    @Sheluvantonio 21 день назад

    Can you put multiple transceded modules in a descendant

  • @Sayon1337
    @Sayon1337 19 дней назад

    Ima go with thunder change as anyone can use it and plus it great at mobbing. While the fire rate is at 666, it has a base 20% crit rate and 2X crit damage so maybe it even out against Blood Bloomer.

  • @mrwigler5354
    @mrwigler5354 18 дней назад

    You need to try the organ launcher on this build you’ll be impressed

  • @rammanjames
    @rammanjames 17 дней назад

    hey saint, is there a reason why crit rate and crit dmge together on the weapon wouldnt scale better then elemental damage?

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  17 дней назад

      Unfortunately, specifically this weapon has a really low base crit rate, and so much like the Python, it's better to run weak point and elemental over trying to modify the low crit. Crit damage without high crit chance also is ineffective.

  • @EnConV
    @EnConV 22 дня назад

    I also heard that the ultimate gley bunny etc the resources to upgrade stuff is halved?

    • @gloggare
      @gloggare 22 дня назад

      Ultimate gets 4 special mod slots from start. so you ''only'' have to level to 40x4 times... and think ulti gets a little better defence

  • @gzayorvus3195
    @gzayorvus3195 20 дней назад

    Blood and iron giving power of life for each critical shot isn't supposed to heal you when you are not in frenzy??

  • @stephenwebster659
    @stephenwebster659 7 дней назад

    Massacre doesn't work for me on either reg or ult Gley.
    Damage doesnt change at all.

  • @blackrosealice15
    @blackrosealice15 21 день назад

    is there anyway to do a version of this without blood and iron?just do your burst after adds?
    least till one can farm or get to obstructor.

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  20 дней назад +1

      There are a lot of full-loop builds that play heavy into skill cooldown and cooldown reduction with unlimited firing if you'd prefer that type of build. Otherwise, you have to collect orbs during add phases to do the same playstyle without the class module.

    • @blackrosealice15
      @blackrosealice15 20 дней назад

      @@Saintonedo you think it would be worth doing a launcher or tamer build like other vids?those all look cool to but idk the dmg difference

  • @Sainted.
    @Sainted. 22 дня назад

    after HP & DEF which should we prioritize using catalysts on?

    • @ARMAN35LEE
      @ARMAN35LEE 22 дня назад

      I’d go for anything that increases skill usage time, skill power DOES NOT do anthing for Gley so just go for Health, Defense and anything that makes your skills last longer so you can proc unlitimed ammo and use massacre for longer

  • @Gabriel3Gamu
    @Gabriel3Gamu 22 дня назад

    adding a polarity/farma in the sub module does nothing Saintone or I'm missing something??

    • @john_-218
      @john_-218 22 дня назад

      Lvl descendent up and you will see max cap be higher

    • @Gabriel3Gamu
      @Gabriel3Gamu 22 дня назад

      @@john_-218 yeah I see that viesa has 80cap when at lvl 40 but that is without polarity on the submodule. the mod itself is lvl up to max

  • @stevendeamon
    @stevendeamon 22 дня назад

    "I recomend against forma the element slots"
    But that means you can't fit them in anymore... They either have to make all element mods use the same polarity or... you're kinda screwed.

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      @stevendeamon You'd just de-level certain mods. Things like the crit damage mod (if you're using a low crit chance weapon), or rifling (since it's additive with two much larger sources), or the elemental enhancement. Even HP Collector can be fine to de-level if you feel like 2 seconds cooldown is excessive.

  • @MothasOnion
    @MothasOnion 22 дня назад

    question: Does skill power, skill power modifier, and skill crit dmg/rate do anything for Frenzy Mode and Increased sensory? honestly looking to do a build based around predator instinct.
    i tried using singular and non-attribute module but they seemed like they were performing worse than using reg skill power/power modifier.

    • @davonnedavis893
      @davonnedavis893 22 дня назад +1

      Only skill power MODIFYER. Any build using basic skill dmg is getting info from old beta build videos. Just go full cool down and duration and you can have your 3 up infinitely. Throw up defense and hp mods for survivability

    • @Saintone
      @Saintone  22 дня назад

      They do nothing for Frenzy mode or Increased Sensory.
      All of those traits do impact the proc damage of Massacre though I didn't find any of the modules that increased them to be worth it.

    • @MothasOnion
      @MothasOnion 21 день назад

      @@Saintone okay, thank you, this was my biggest issue figuring out how I want to build her!
      Also may you explain to me why Vestgian organ has over the other launchers? Like what makes it meta over other launchers?

    • @MothasOnion
      @MothasOnion 21 день назад

      @@davonnedavis893 okay! and yeah i got everything else built out just wasnt sure if the sk.dmg mods were doing anything, thank you!

    • @davonnedavis893
      @davonnedavis893 21 день назад

      @@MothasOnion that launch has high fire rate. It's basically a auto launcher.
      Also you CAN build skill dmg but don't it's not worth 15% skill dmg would increase your dmg proc from the ult only by like 500 or so but 15% skill Modifier would increase the overall dmg from your ult by like 20k. Gley ult is scaled based on her Weapon she's holding if you play warframe it's a stat stick. So increasing skill dmg doesn't do much for it.

  • @user-gv7bh5nb5w
    @user-gv7bh5nb5w 19 дней назад

    How did u get get 85 mod capacity? I know 80 is from MR but the remaining 5 I'm confused about

    • @Sayon1337
      @Sayon1337 19 дней назад +1

      Catalyst the sub module for extra 5

    • @user-gv7bh5nb5w
      @user-gv7bh5nb5w 18 дней назад

      @@Sayon1337 Ah i see, didnt realise u could catalyst that slot

  • @NGFRIZZ
    @NGFRIZZ 16 дней назад

    Is this build better than rocket build

  • @xXmarcoflpsnXx
    @xXmarcoflpsnXx 22 дня назад

    how would you compare this to the infinite rocket build for gley?

    • @clembra1
      @clembra1 22 дня назад +1

      Read pinned comment. He says the rocket build is 2x better

  • @nekissx8123
    @nekissx8123 21 день назад

    I really enjoy gley with tamer and a luncher with that V skill with duration and cooldown reduc mods it's WWII when i start using the luncher its raining mortars lol