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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- A new ruling in Alabama says that all unborn children, even frozen embryos, qualify as people under state law. Desi Lydic breaks down the implications for abortion rights and people going through IVF, while Ronny Chieng celebrates his new low-maintenance tax write-off. #DailyShow #DesiLydic #ReproductiveRights
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Too much efforts to save babies before they are born, but no affordable child healthcare for babies after they are born.
Well that's not important. Clearly. Who cares about the children after they're born?
"PWO LYFE"👍👍👍👍👍 FTW 🙃
*sarcasm*
@@DaneInTheUSit appears no one
@@jaycahuenga6416 No one who is a republican.
There is a name for children once they are born - targets.
So if there was a power outage the electric company could be considered a mass murderer?
Great point lol. Are the fertility clinics to blame if they don't have a backup generator?
You see, that’s a big business. They will be exempted one way or another
No that is science and you can't go down that road or things would make sense To the Christian right it is all about fantasy and phantasmagorical explanations for everything guided by a 2000-year-old book written by non--scientists whose world was a valley in the Mideast...
Only 1 example of the many many problems with this illogical ruling
@@ecurewitzbut corporations are people….
If an embryo is considered a child, then freezing it MUST be considered AT LEAST cruelty, torture, and false imprisonment, and leaving the embryos unsupervised for any period of time (even just overnight) must be considered child endangerment, neglect, etc. Also, this means that an individual/couple who has at least one frozen embryo must now obtain a family health insurance plan instead of an individual/couple plan. If embryos are considered children, they must also be counted on the census, used in the calculation of funding for schools, be considered dependents on income tax forms, etc.
Better call the babysitter before you go out 😂
But on the other hand, if you DON'T freeze it, you are killing it. So... tough choice lol
Wow!! Your comment really made me think. Thanks.
Only if it's a rich white male embryo.
Carpool lane here I come!
I went to a restaurant in Alabama yesterday. I ordered the chicken dinner. I was confused when a plate of eggs came to my table. I was told that an egg is a chicken
I ordered some oak lumber from Alabama and was sent an acorn. I was told an acorn is a tree.
"You know, my grandfather's name was Harold Bingo, and he invented the game "Bingo."
I don't know where to start but maybe there should be a law that prohibits people who have no medical degrees from making laws that hinder people who do.
No, we have a couple of Drs in Congress that disprove that theory...
But they aren't the majority. My point is that people who know nothing about medicine, or the human (esp female) body shouldn't be making medical decisions. Those decisions should be made between the patient and physician. @@superbmediacontentcreator
you should include active religious beliefs in that too
I think this is one of the bigger problems. Republicans don’t trust experts/professionals, they believe academia is the heart of the woke agenda, it all starts in college. Some even believe its a lasting KGB psy-op that lived beyond the Soviet Union. Mainly that the KGB infiltrated colleges in order to indoctrinate people with socialist/communist ideals.
Welcome to America, land of the mental health agencies run by people with biochem and political science degrees.
So pregnant women can't be imprisoned now because that would be false imprisonment of the child, and therefore, the unborn child could sue for false imprisonment.
@@HugoBeeblePregnant women can't even be arrested in Alabama because they would be illegally arresting the child as well. Right wingers don't usually think these things through.
It's like their "religious liberty" laws and book bannings where they forget that religious liberty applies to all religions, not just theirs and the Bible is full of offensive content that they themselves have declared not suitable for children. Then when the Church of Satan moves to have the same rights as Catholics and non-Christians move to ban the Bible they suddenly realize what they have done.
Or if a pregnant girl gets slapped the agressor hit a child also 😂
(Silently passes over a virtual beer. Great post.)
Child will be guilty by association 😅
Well played sir, well played 🤣
My business plan:
1. Buy a fridge.
2. Buy a bunch of embryoes.
3. Claim child support.
You should actually do it. Become the Florida Man.
Brought to you by the "corporations are people" crowd
The party of “small government” and “personal freedoms”.
You wouldnt be able to sue corporations if corporate personhood didnt exist
@@Spamlett Why not? Why couldn't we just legislate that we can sue corporations without them being considered to have "personhood"?
@Decadent_Descent well you can't sue a chair or a dog. Corporate personhood exists so that companies can be held accountable in court, not as a way to protect companies. What protects companies however is a lack of sufficient punitive measures on the company + its directors, which is the real problem, not "corporate personhood" in general
@@Spamlettyou cannot either way. Unlike corporations, actual citizens have no defense against masses of lawsuits.
Alabama ranks 44th nationally in health care, 44th in quality of education, 40th in crime and 47th in natural environment as in pollution according to U.S. News and World Reports. A great state to bring human life into.
So you're for the killing of hundreds of thousands of babies? I don't get your point sir
I hate it here
Emphesis on 44th in education. But of braindead biblechuckers.
Wait wait. You're telling me there are 6 states in the US worse than Alabama? That's kind of impressive in a sad way.
Oh nooo 😂 😢
So, question here... Frozen embryos are children. So, if embryos are frozen for, say, 20 years before they are born, would that make them legal adults in Alabama the moment they are born? They are '20 years old'.
Alabama is still a child acting up
You can register them to vote than, because they said their people
@@reptileloverreptile-vt6fdThe infant would still be more informed than the average Alabama voters.
They have somehow learned the "age of accountability"
That means the baby can drink alcohol on its 1st birthday! That's going to be one wild baby's first birthday!!
Finally! someone is thinking of all the unborn, genetically incomplete, not even human yet embryos! instead of all those needy real born children with actual needs and requirements! Alabama! Gittin its priorities backwards since always!
They may believe life begins at conception, but they act like it ends after birth.
A lot are for the death penalty. So how are they pro-life?
The life of the mother is danger? Why's her life less important than the unborn?
George Carlin, when you’re pre born you’re ok, once you’re born you’re on your own.
that's what makes the notion of calling them 'pro-life' so hilarious.
@@TheDeadnaughty "pro birth"
❤🇬🇧
So does this mean we can claim a fetus as a dependent on our taxes? If not, we should sue the government.
State taxes are going to be wild in Alabama this year
And likewise, those who have multiple frozen embryos (which is standard procedure for those seeking IVF) should get to claim ALL of those embryos. I see a rush of people getting the idea to have this done, even if they never want to actually be a parent, just to get the tax benefit. I hope it bankrupts the state of Alabama.
@@margolehman5482 Of course on the other side everyone will have to bring all the frozen embryos to term or be charged with child abandonment.
Alabama does seem to be a bit vague here. It seems they're okay keeping children in the freezer while you decide if you're ready to parent them.@@FakeSchrodingersCat
@@margolehman5482That would be like drawing blood from a stone.
You cannot die if you haven't been born. Headstones are etched with the date of birth, not the date of conception.
RIP Ronny Chieng Jr., never - 2024
We're all 9 months older now ...
Great point!!
@@dangerousgoods2492 but on the bright side, forty and nine months is the new forty.
@@cindi7228 I think so! It's the way it's always been in every culture across the world. You become a person the day you are born, that's the day your human life starts. The “life begins at conception” idea is some new neoconservative BS…
Today on "But I Didn't Think the Lion Would Eat My Face!" - The biggest irony of this whole thing is that the lawsuit was brought forth by IVF patients and the results are now putting in jeopardy the ability of others in the state to also receive IVF.
How is this the "face eating leopard"? This is more unintended consequences than having your own cruel positions turned against you.
@@emerynoel567 People in Alabama voted in a way that allowed this to happen. Over time, they have elected people who held these and other drastic, christo-fascist positions and have been clear on what they were trying to achieve. Now people in the state who need these services are angry that they cannot access these services.
@@andricheli Sure but, the people who elected the AL politicians haven't gotten their faces eaten yet. They WANT to make abortion and killing zygotes illegal. I feel like I'm missing something here? Like I fully understand the leopards/faces thing, I just don't see it applying?
YES. And it's wicked, when not rich.
@@andricheli the people who voted in Alabama are getting what they wanted, not ha ing their cruel positions and policies turned back on them
I actually like that the Daily show team is taking turns hosting each day instead of celebrity guests
Unless the State is going to let people claim embryos as dependents for tax purposes, they can't also consider them children.
Personhood acknowledgment is not the same as claiming they are legal children. Are you being dense or obtuse?
can the number of embryos in a woman be counted? Pay up, Alabama!
@@chelsmariaEmbryos are not persons.
@@chelsmaria Neither, they're perfectly aware of something you're not: a fetus is not a person and has no rights.
@@EdwardLindonno they're not. But this Supreme Court said that they qualify as people so...
Keep a frozen embryo in your car and you now have a carpool lane pass.
Just remember to keep the embryo on dry ice, or you’ll be guilty of manslaughter!
Claim them as dependents on your taxes too.
Now we're talking.
So portable and unfussy
THE BAR HAS BEEN MOVED AGAIN... From the Incorporated papers papers to a f-ing embryo!
How did the court decide that every single frozen emɓryo is viable?! Really amazing lack of scientific fact.
Republican running o every camera they a find to yell we support IVF. Wait are these people law makers or what? If they support iVF don't runt to he camera run to sign a bill.
So why can’t you just freeze a baby and keep it until you are ready to be a parent? Because. An. Embryo. Is. Not. A. Baby. This stupidity will never end.
This is totally absurd. No medical professional, no biologist, would argue that an embryo is equivalent to a born human. This is as absurd as corporate personhood which convey the right of individuals to organizations. No where in the founding of this nation were rights to be conveyed as such.
I don't suppose you've heard of certain mountains, rivers and lakes being granted a sort of "legal personhood" in order to protect the natural environment?
Actually corporations have MORE rights than natural persons in the US. Humans are limited by the amount of political donations they can make in a single year. Corporations can spend unlimited amounts to support (read: buy) politicians.
Religious fanatics don’t care about any of that
Well, next time you access the HUB, you better hope you do it outside of Alabama. Because you might just get indicted for genocide!
@@dimsumdensum4985
Also, corporations can't go to jail no matter what crimes they commit.
If Alabama thinks embryos are children, why doesn't the state provide better prenatal care to pregnant Women? So much for Pro-Life!
As of 2021, Alabama's maternal mortality rate (3rd highest in the USA) was 56.8 deaths per 100,000 births.
As of 2021, Alabama's stillbirth rate was 7.6 per 1,000 live births.
As of 2022, Alabama's preterm birth rate was 12.8 per 1,000 live births.
As of 2022, Alabama's prenatal care was 17.6% for all pregnant Women.
2023 MARCH OF DIMES REPORT CARD FOR ALABAMA was an F, 12.8%. (Overall US ranking- 10.4%)
Bad genetics, loads of alcohol, poor public funding. That order
Oh they will never do that. They will claim personal responsibility or some nonsense
@ChrisGrump look at the sexist bigot, believing that saving human babies is solely a women's job.
Well the answer is simple: Alabama is not pro-children. They are anti-women.
Just wait til they start sentencing female felons to surrogacy of those "frozen children".
This could easily lead to a woman allowing herself to have a miscarriage being a murderer.
Defining any embryo as a living person is a gigantic problem.
"Allowing herself to have a miscarriage" is an odd way to phrase something a woman cannot control once it happens.
Women have been charged for miscarriages in the US... how are you Americans so uninformed?
Yeah, it’s a natural travesty, but not something one does on purpose, so it’s literally not that.
I think that's the whole idea behind this ruling.
Yeah that's already happened in TX.
Ronny may be onto something. People in Alabama need to claim tax benefits for the frozen embryos they make. According to the Alabama Supreme Court, if you have 20 frozen embryos, you have 20 children. That's 20 dependents. At $300 per dependent in Alabama Income Tax exemptions, that's $6,000 in Tax exemptions!
Okay, so this means I can collect welfare for these children?
Yeah, California said two men are married and can collect social security survivor benefits from each other, so Texas said a steer has an IQ of 20 like a disabled child, and can collect social security disability checks, made payable to the rancher. Each state defines its own terms for federal entitlement disbursements.
@@crimony3054 Texas say whaaaa... 🧐🤔😲
how much is an embryo kept in storage vs the tax benefits for each child? Seems about time to bankrupt Alabama.
I don't think they have social services in Alabama, so no one's taxes will be impacted by this ruling. 🙄
@@KrasusDumatlmao you think en vitro embryos are human lives? Is a covid viron also a human life? Both can’t live without a human body to grow inside
If only they thought as highly of children and adults as they do an embryo.
No, Alabama views helping post-birth individuals as creeping socialism. The horror! /s
To quote George Carlin, when you’re pre born you’re ok, when you’re pre-school you’re f-cked
@@robertnapier624 I love that set he did, he was a social commentator as much as a comedian.
you lost them at " thought "
Whelp no one ever accused Alabama of understanding science
I’m a woman living in rural Georgia and my husband and I have been trying to start a family. IVF may one day be part of our journey. Watching the news in Alabama has been worrying to say the least. But the way Ronny made me laugh with this segment! I’m so grateful!
I mean, they're clearly not, though. George Carlin put it perfectly.
If a fetus is a human being, why are they not counted in the Census? If a fetus is a human being, why do people say "We have two children and one on the way." Instead of "We have three children."?
*Census
Carlin would probably find today's world too absurd to even joke about.
Exactly. Because people acknowledge that things go wrong in pregnancies and a birth is not always a guaranteed outcome
The chicken eggs I eat are fully developed.... Anyone care for some rotisserie chicken??
The Alabama Supreme Court ruled on embryos, which are distinct and much too underdeveloped to be considered a fetus. As ridiculous as the ruling is, there is a difference.
Sounds to me like with a little bit of preplanning, it would be pretty easy to qualify as a family of 15 and get public assistance as a single adult making north of $100k. They made the rule, it's time for them to take responsibility.
Someone needs to do this. If anyone is going for IVF treatment, just make a few extras, name them as your offspring / get a birth cert (?) and claim money. When the gov refuses, sue. Win.
Im guessing they do not have any public assistance in alabama
@@cocodaddy Its not the government that is at fault here, it's the Christian conservatives who were put in power by people who complain about the government, in no small part. There is a reason people tried to separate church and state back in the day.
@@soliniv1411As someone who briefly lived in east of Birmingham (as a DC native), I do know there are benefits available, but overall, they’re quite far behind. Same for a few other states, like Louisiana, where I also had the misfortune to live for a brief period of time.
Even mental health and/or substance abuse services are woefully lacking. That can be argued across the nation, but it’s particularly lacking in states like AL.
You could claim a thousand embryos on your taxes.
give them social security numbers and let us claim them on taxes.
if they're children, treat them as such not only when it is convenient but at all times.
So can I now take out a life insurance policy on an embryo and then if it doesn't result in a successful pregnancy and birth, can I get the life insurance payout?
Not American and couldn't point out Alabama on a map but I know I never want to go there.
Don't worry....most Americans don't want to go to Alabama.
@@earlarp273 And the reasons not to grow daily.
You REALLY do not. Nowhere below the Mason-Dixon line. You can feel your brain start to rot...there is some kind of Republic of Gilead chemical in the water.
Its okay. The south has always been stigmatized for the dumbest reasons these days - it truly is ignorance at its finest for those who have never stepped foot here - those who live here will continue to enjoy the low cost of living, low unemployment, diverse mix of cultures, and peace and quiet.
Oh, and we're paying dirt for gas prices right now. It's funny how people who live here know and love it, and everyone outside just listens to all the stereotypes and talking heads.
It's quite literally paradise here compared to a lot of other states with more regulations, more crime, and more misery. Kind of sad. Honestly.
Or find it on a map
@@earlarp273
So if I move my embryos to Alabama can I claim them as a tax deduction / dependent? 🤣😂
I think you can
@@SusanKay- That's brilliant. Get SS cards for each one an then send in mail in ballots.
Somebody should, I don’t see what they can do given the new precedent they’ve set
But I really suggest you don’t move to Alabama, 🤢🤮
Are embryos considered for SNAP benefits?? They should be
Does that mean I get to carpool every time I’m ovulating? 😂
I'm impressed at how realistic Ronnie juggle dropping the tube looked
I would ask alabama supreme court justices to take my ‘child’ for a walk.
Does raise an interesting question: is a chicken egg a chicken, and do you have to store them in accordance with animal welfare laws? In fact, is it even legal to keep 12 chickens in a suburban house?
I keep 2 18 count cartons in the frig.
@@KrasusDumatGoddamn Scooter you so seriously missed the point.
Chicken eggs sold in stores aren't fertilized, so they would be the same as a woman freezing eggs, rather than embryos, I would imagine.
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004accidental fertilization of chicken eggs, while rare, does happen ...
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004I lived on a farm, so you weren't always sure. Also some chickens are great at laying for others, geese are terrible mums, and tiny bantam chickens will lay on any egg, great layers !!! I get it's not the most accurate analogy, but at this point they'll be banning menstruations, it's all ridiculous. 😅 And that's with such limited medical info 🤦🏻♀️ I'm OHVIRA, women with 2 wombs, usually one kidney and can get pregnant in both and by different men (ok, extremely unusual but possible) I was made to feel a freak for decades, didn't even know there were others !!! Now I feel double woman ❤
I guess in Alabama they'll have to teach about how dangerous it is to leave children to exposed room temperature air.
I am definitely moving to Alabama and taking a Child Tax Credit for each of my IVF kids. That’s about $2000 each for Chilly, Icy, and Slushy, and since it’s Alabama and those embryos are probably not going to top grade 4 or 5, we’ll include Klondike and Häagen-dazs as well. I hope I don’t have any trouble getting them their Social Security numbers…
In Alabama if you have an OB/GYN medical license and make sound medical decisions you run the risk of getting jailed and (pending) executed. However, if you are a politician or a judge in the pocket of republican politicians, you can practice medicine without a license. Also in Alabama here are a record number of hospital maternity wards that have closed because doctors are unwilling to risk death or jail for doing their job correctly.
It does raise interesting questions? If fertilized eggs are "people" under the law in Alabama, couldn't they be claimed as dependents for tax purposes and other government benefits? If residents in a particular county in Alabama declared all of their frozen fertilized eggs as "dependents"', that should change the distribution of funding for schools and such and make them entitled to welfare benefits and tax deductions. I suspect that people who have embryos frozen pay some kind a fee for their storage. So, 20 embryos would be 20 dependents according to the Alabama Supreme Court.
Also, if they are”people” shouldn’t there be laws stating that any and all embryos created through IVF MUST be implanted and born? I mean how can keeping them frozen not be a violation of their civil rights?
If embryos are children, then they can have life insurance. That's what will get the line drawn.
Also, what happens to excess embyros now? Can they still be disposed of? If they are children legally I would think the answer is no. Sooo must they be brought to term? By whom? And honestly how? You can end up with 10 embryos from one round of IVF
It's almost as if they didn't think it through. Hence, AL education ranking.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did they say they have to be fertilized? Because after puberty a woman carries upwards of 300k eggs at all times. Embryos are not frozen if they are fertilized. So will this new law make all women eligible for full child credit from puberty? Would this law also make every woman a serial killer?
So that means in Alabama you can vote 17 years and 3 months after you are born? I mean if life begins at conception not birth don't they need to stop giving birth certificates in favor of conception certificates?
The embryo can probably legally buy a gun in Alabama.
Clerk: [pushes paper against woman's belly] "Sign here, sir or madam."
Oh, I am SOOOooo hoping that a law firm representing a large group of 17 year olds starts a lawsuit to petition the state to let them vote based on this! Can't wait to see how the court does backflips to now **deny** that the teens were already living humans at the point of conception, while still denying them the right to vote.
Also, a bunch of 64 year olds better start clamoring to start Medicare and Social Security payments ASAP!
If you freeze the embryo for 21 years, they can drink alcohol as soon as they're born.
Thank you Desi for talking about how Women’s Rights are basically going out the window. You are a gem to the show.
I thought it was wild when I found out I had around 10 half-siblings (now around 24), but with this ruling I have a bunch of frozen lil full siblings hanging out in a lab somewhere too. How exciting! Thanks Alabama, for thinking you understand things when you clearly have never even come close! 👍😆
Well if it's a "child", then it probably shouldn't be kept in the freezer then since it would freeze to death 😏
All I see is an unlimited amount of dependents to claim.
Freezer burn is considered torture?
They don't believe in science remember... it's all just concepts to the Christian Right not reality...
@@User12347ejdj😂
Try it with a baby. Then get back to me. @@KrasusDumat
I am living in Alabama right now and this place is disturbing
So now in Alabama, if a lab worker drops an embryo or messes one up somehow they could be charged with some form of wrongful death/manslaughter?! That's just insane
So if a pregnant woman does a crime, will the embryo be charged as an accessory?
"This" is why aliens roll up their windows and drive by Earth.
Whenever I think about moving to another state, I don't even consider Alabama. They don't exactly give people an incentive to move there.
I'm tired of my state funding poor red states.
When my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer we decided to put some embryos on ice in case her cancer treatment made her infertile. We had eight embryos and paid $500/year to keep them frozen, but never used them and a few years later stopped paying the bill, which meant they would be destroyed.
Who is responsible for the deaths of those “children?”
Are we responsible indefinitely for those frozen children? Do we have to pay to keep them frozen until they are implanted in a woman?
Not all implanted embryos make it to birth. Who is responsible for the deaths of those embryos?
Quite literally spit out my coffee!! "Life begins in Ala when a man notices his first cousin is hot". 😂😂😂 Hilarious. But incredibly sad.
We're in the dystopian future, great
Yeah, we use dehumanizing language so we can abort people.
That future is now (depending on where you live)
If they are legally children then freezing them in the first place MUST be child neglect. Despite the fact that its literally the way you have to store them if you want them to ACTUALLY become people.
Ronny is my new hero. He just keep dishing out gold. "I don't hate kids alright. I just hate YOUR kids." LOL
The late great Christopher Hitchens said "religion poisons everything". The supreme court of Alabama has done their best to prove him right yet again.
Love Ronny. Quick question, how do non-medical professionals get access to test tube embryos? Not sure anyone answered that very disturbing question.
That surely was a violation! Patients are not allowed in a clinical laboratory.
You guys are awesome ...super funny!
_The Five Second Rule_
"I've been waiting for this moment my whole life." 😅
I love this; if they are legally children, then they should be put on taxes as dependents! If that goes to court it would be interesting to see how long that interpretations stands.
It's not a human being until the vessel is populated with a soul. This doesn't happen until after higher cognitive functions have begun.
I read in some book somewhere (that many people consider the work of some deity) that life begins with the first breath.
There is no soul.
Which is absolutely the way to think about it, until there is a functioning nervous system, there is no conscious, no soul. And without a soul, it is just tissue and cells. These pro-death people are completely off their rocker, divorced from reality and reason. 😡
When will your cognitive functions develop?
How exactly do you determine this soul population? Face it, there is no science behind your statement, just a religious belief. My religious belief contradicts your religious belief so now what?
EXCELLENT. i serve in the military in alabama and get an increase in pay for nearly 10,000 dependents (which i also claim on my taxes).
My wife and I did three rounds of IVF. Each time, there were at least 12 embryos. Bro, I would love to claim 12 children on my taxes during those years. 😁
i really appreciate how unhinged some states are. it's rather impressive
What people? Everyone I know was well aware that this wouldn't stop with Roe v Wade.
And Alabama, that tracks....
Alabama said "At ANY stage of development." Well, technically eggs start to form in the ovaries when they are still in gestation, before they are even born. So does that mean a woman pregnant past 20 weeks can claim 2 more dependents on their taxes?
Q: What do you call 9 Alabama Supreme Court Justices? A: a full set of teeth.
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People having gone through this painful process should now file their taxes listing all these "children" as dependent and get a tax break ...
Why are these states even states? it’s absolutely ridiculous to have Alabama Tennessee, Mississippi, Kentucky let alone to Dakotas as standalone decision-makers for our country..
The constitution covers the right of states to make laws for things that don't fall under the purview of the federal government. And no state makes laws for the rest of of the country, they make laws for their own states only.
Call me crazy, but frozen petri dishes shouldn't have more rights than human women.
Anyone else curious how Alabama courts will rule regarding divorce proceedings for a couple who'd undergone IVF fertility treatments prior, with unimplanted but viable embryos in the freezer? How many dependent children does that create, which parent owes child support, and who receives the payments?
Wasn’t there a case a few years ago of a guy keeping his daughter locked up in a room for 20 years? Those embryo parents deserve to be indicted and prosecuted.
The worst part is that I am actually legitimately worried that Ronny will have actual Alabama cops come after him for this.
You’re looking at this all wrong. Parents can now freeze their teenagers when they go out of town.
Actually, the tax break thing is an excellent point. I imagine it costs a lot to retain them and can be counted as a deduction.
Not to mention government benefits of all kinds. These kids are severely disabled. They’re blind, deaf, are missing all of their limbs, their heads - they’re not even developing properly.
Whoever’s making those laws needs to go back to elementary school and review up on science. I have over 2 million eggs. None of them are fertilized and it takes nine months gestation approximately to give birth to a baby so yes, thank you for allowing me to make my healthcare choices.
I can't wait until someone files a state tax returning claiming 200+ dependants that do not have names or birth dates yet.
2043 news from Alabama: state lines are closed due to the entire state being converted to embryo storage which is now completely full
What about the hospital not being able to keep certain areas inaccessible to patients? Is that "child endangerment"?
Everyone in Alabama who is pregnant or has frozen embryos needs to apply for life insurance and cite the court ruling, the issue will fix itself
Anybody from Alabama reading this who has frozen embryos, please do the following: claim the embryos on your taxes as dependents. You will send the irs into such a tailspin trying to figure this out.
or just do it only on state taxes and then watch the legislature correct XD after negative cash flows
If you've been in the school of thought that "Human Life Begins at Conception" the only surprise was that this wasn't immediately implemented when Roe Vs. Wade was struck down.
Alabama taxes this year are going to be WILD. Every frozen embryo owned by a parent can qualify as a deduction?
Nobody is talking about how Alabama Republicans specified that SOME embryos only count as 3/5ths of a person...
So say you have a successful implant, pregnancy, and birth and have excess embryos but no longer want children. If you don't keep those embryos in perpetuity, are you a murderer? what happens to the embryos after you die? This is SO messed up.
Pro lifers always claimed they wanted abortion banned to save babies. But this ruling will make IVF either way more expensive (since insurance rates will skyrocket to cover wrongful death suits) or the clinics in Alabama will just close. Which will mean less babies born for couples with fertility issues. So it’s not really about saving babies. It’s about making people obey their book of myths.
@@andrewward5891 I think that's an overreaction to this ruling.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch- I realize that it was an exercise in hyperbole. But the clinic could be sued into bankruptcy by dozens of couples for wrongful death for the freezer breakdown
In the words of the late George Carlin “when you’re pre-born you’re ok, once you’re born, you’re on your own.”
Something Ronnie said was interesting: taxes and dependents. If an embryo is equal to a live child, than could someone in Alabama who had a multiple frozen embryos claim them on their W4 and taxes and get a tax deduction?
I sure hope someone tries.
Can you claim an unborn child though? Not in Ohio and yes when my wife was pregnant I checked
@@011keepers probably not. You'd need a social security number.
Brilliant segment!!! And great delivery!!!
If I had frozen embryos I would name them, apply for a social security number and take out a million dollar life insurance policy on every one. My court cases would be broadcast worldwide. If I was a law firm I would offer embryo representation to secure social services for them insisting they have 24 hour supervision by a qualified embryo early childhood specialist and represent parents attempting to get SS #;s and life policies for their embryos. Lemons to lemonade ladies. Let’s get it done.
This does bring up an interesting point. If someone suggested they have 500 children in test tubes, could they get tons of state benefits? I bet if they applied this law would get repealed quickly.
Most state benefits don't really start until like a month after pregnancy...but I do see that being brought up
If the Alabama court considers a fertilized egg a child, then they will also go after women who want to use the pill.
We've been legally calling non-humans "human" and giving them "personhood" for years.
I'd like see more done to repeal "Citizen's United" and removing "corporate personhood" from the national dialog.
Now this.
What's next? With AI on the rise, who knows?
At what point do we admit that "all men (women) are created equal" has become utterly meaningless?
Curious times.
Meanwhile, check out all the kids who are in need of adoption, foster care, the food programs for public schools, education in Alabama, the future of it's youth. Pro life indeed.
Oooh, Desi is slaying tonight
And, yes, the ruling is awful, pls, someone, can anyone stop it?
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Alabama has just declared that frozen embryos are people. This is upsetting some in the in vitro fertilization world. It should be a selling feature. 
They are looking at this all wrong. If you have to produce eight frozen embryos to have one successful, in vitro fertilization, keep the rest of them frozen and start claiming them on your state tax report. Let’s see what Alabama does with that. Give them names. Keep them in the liquid nitrogen container. Claim the maintenance fees for the container on your taxes also.
Is Alabama going to give state tax breaks for each of those embryos? I bet they won't.
Wait, so if frozen embryos are now considered children in Alabama wouldn’t that mean that facilities that house frozen embryos are now foster homes? And isn’t the State legally required to pay foster homes? I suppose Alabamians are going to need to get their taxes increased to pay for these new child welfare services.
An embryo is a child? Really? If these lawmakers could save one baby or ten frozen embryos from a burning building, every single one of them would save the baby.
They can be considered "children" by law but an embryo is dependent on the host body for life. If the government mandates the use of someone's body to sustain life, then they must also mandate that the public be required to give a kidney or bone marrow to any born children as well. Or to any adult. And if it's about "pro-life" then they must also take care of the child after birth. Otherwise, it's just hypocrisy.
Ronnie has a real point. Is there going to be a child tax credit attached to this?