We have to remember when considering the Discord Magic thing: Tirek drains essence, so he probably got all of Discord's magic, but it was probably distilled into raw energy. The bell likely just takes Character A's magic as is and gives it to Character B.
That's a really nice theory and makes more sense now since how Tirek before absorb the magic of the 4 alicorns but he doesn't had their powers like moving the sun and moon or something like that something that Storm King did when he absorb the power of the princesses into the staff
The only valid argument I've seen for "Tirek's schtick copies abilities" is that he made Twilight's friends appear in bubbles. But Tirek opened a portal to Tartarus *before* draining Discord, so I don't believe that's the case. I think his magic drain is significantly more inefficient than Grogar's bell, which does a far better job of bestowing abilities associated with the magic.
Hmm, good point. He drains core magic (faded eyes and coats) but can leave the magic of the individual alone, thus why he can only drain living beings of magic; Where as this bell can siphon not only core magic but the magic an individual has in all magical aspects, like unto the spell used by Star Swirl to maintain the rotations of the sun and moon, at that time on a dying eclipse....wait, no their cutie marks weren't removed. So it removes their magical abilities and powers and some of their core magic to negate it but not remove it? Sorry, theory elements of my own. Definitely got some things to write about and determine....
I think the general consensus is that Tirek in Season 5 stole Discord's energy merely for the power boost; actually tapping into the chaotic aspect of Discord's energy is what Tirek seemingly can't do because he's pure evil, not a chaotic, unbalanced entity like Discord.
This makes sense - Tirek absorbs magic, but seemingly not its abilities. He never grows wings, or the ability to teleport; so he absorbed the "battery" part of Discord's magic, but knows he can't control the "function"
Still doesn’t make sense, as Tirek himself says that he devours and absorbs magic, not energy. He should have been able to absorb Discord’s magic from the Bell just as he once did from Discord directly. Ergo, he should’ve had no problem absorbing Discord’a magic from the Bell. If anything, I think it would’ve made this episode more epic if he had. He would’ve been gigantic. Give Cozy Glow her Alicorn magic, give Chrysalis the ability to use the magic of whatever form she has taken, and give Tirek his giant form. The Mane Six and everyone else defeating them would’ve had more impact that way. Though I still think the idea of Discord posing as Grogar to redeem these villains to give Twilight more confidence was better. They’d betray him, use the magic from the Bell, and unintentionally release the real Grogar, who was trapped inside of it. The three of them would work with the Mane Six to stop Grogar, admitting at the end that they are friends with each other.
well since Discord is a creature of Chaos releasing villains to help the main character grow in his mind it makes sense to him. A normal pony of course it would be a dumb idea.
Dusty was on to something, if Grogar is the father of monsters, and his bell turns Cozy Glow into an Alicorn, which is a Chimera of a unicorn and Pegasus, Zecora's memory potion requires Alicorn Magic, Twilight used Sombra's magic, Sombra's magic is inherently evil by using a target's fear against them...so *are* Alicorns truly monsters, monsters that rebelled against Grogar?
Rarity: There I was, at the end of the throne room, when Tirek grabbed Twilight! He was getting closer, closer... Sweetie Belle: And? Rarity: I THREW A ROCK AT HIM!! Sweetie Belle: ... Rarity: It was a big rock...
"My destiny is a stupid ROCK?!" -Rarity, season 1. Yes Rarity of season 1, it is. Using a stupid rock is probably the most important thing you've now done, your part in shaping destiny.
Grogar's Bell could also contain the _properties_ of the magic, which is something Tirek can't do, hence why he didn't gain chaos magic when he drained Discord back in season 4. He merely gains the magnitude of the power, but not its properties.
@@thadmaster7 .....Maybe the fact that they tarnished my legacy ruined my reputation and possibly ruined any serious return in the future for my character in all his former glory. ..... We also didn't see another amazing Tirek VS Twilight fight.
Of course, being turned to stone, like this video mentioned, gives the opportunity for redemption in the future, just like Discord. Not that it's likely, but then again, we would've said the same amount Discord, and here we are.
I was surprised, to be honest. First of all, that Discord would suggest it; he knows just how awful it was for him. Second, when the punishment is about to happen... Luna, Discord, Starlight, Trixie, and Tempest are all right there, and not even one of them speaks up to offer the villains a chance.
@@eventyraren I mean, sure, though to me the just a child excuse doesn't fly when they have been willing to destroy Equestria and murder. She's asleep now anyway, so it isn't quite as dark as you think, especially with the track record of these sorts of seals. Only a matter of time until they are free. I also see Cozy as an orphan, all things considered.
When Pinkie went Chaos God, it made me realize that the script writers read the mlp infinite time loops. In it Pinkie spent a lot of time looped into the 40k universe and became the Chaos God of PINK. It was disturbing but hillarious.
Tirek may have drained Discord before, however, at that point in "Twilight's Kingdom", Tirek was stronger than he was here - the bell returned him to his third form, but he took Discord's magic once he was in his fourth form, having just absorbed the magic of the Mane Six. It's likely that in his current state Tirek isn't strong enough to control Discord's magic like he could before, and since he was able to do it before, he would know that he's not cut out for it this time. Also, it appears that when Tirek absorbs the magic of others he converts the foreign magic into his own form of magic, but the bell simply transfers magic from one being to another; so in "Twilight's Kingdom" Tirek didn't have to deal with the chaotic nature of Discord's magic, just the enormous raw power the Lord of Chaos possesses. Another way of looking at is it that Tirek's mana drain only lets him absorb the raw energy of the person he drains. The bell, however, steals not only a person's inherent magical energy, but also the unique powers attached to that energy. When he first drained Discord, Tirek only received a boost to his own power, whereas if he tried to absorb the magic using the bell he'd be overwhelmed by the chaos energy attached to it.
also he absorb the magic of the 4 princesses from Twilight but he didn't get their powers an example of that is when Storm King absorb their powers with the staff and the proof is when he moves the sun and moon!
@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940 Yeah. It seems that Tirek's way of doing it is to convert the magic into raw power that he can just throw around, while Grogar's bell transfers the magic itself with any unique properties it may have being kept.
One of the many things I’ve loved was how it was shown how insanely powerful the chaos magic is. Even if it was only for a few seconds the ponies who had it practically went cosmic
When it was first revealed that Discord was Grogor My IMMEDIATE thought was that he was trying to show Tirek, Cozy and Chrysalis the "magic of friendship" to prove to twilight how far she'd come and how far he'd come because of her And I thought the episode "Frenemies" was proof that my theory was right I was so disappointed to find out his real motivation And honestly, I think it would have been kinda cool if at least ONE of them was redeemed
Indeed. They were clearly setting up a transition arc for them in Frenemies but just ended up doing nothing with it. Honestly, what was even the point of bringing them in season nine? They swore revenge and by the end they still swear revenge. They where already no threat to Equestria by the beginning of season nine until Discord messed up big time. Overall, I'm too very disappointed in what could've been a way more interesting story rather than the typical finales for FiM at that point.
would you believe me if i said if one were to be redeemed it would be Chrysalis, like even to this day i feel Cozy Glow would never accept the kind of Friendship twilight believes in and instead believes of Friendship as Power... like honestly she is just too far GONE
@@Federation-Cosmo-Boltaccording to Jim miller the trio were never meant to reform and the scene in frenemies was intended to just mislead the audience
Star Script everything ends. But the funny thing about life is that even though everything eventually ends, nothing ever really _dies._ mlp will continue to inspire, entertain, and comfort people for years and years to come.
Yeah, I feel really sad.... I mean I know everything has to come to a end but.... Fuck! It came to quick. I will miss MLP and the fandom. By the way I never got the chance to go to a bronycon 😭
@@superheavyxd2684 - sad you never got to any of the pony conventions.. but why do you act like MLP is gone forever??? MLP is strong, so even with like G5 coming, fans of G4 and Older will continue with new things
@@irkenpony17 Yeah you are right! It just felt sad that G4 is over but you are right! We will continue! Thank you Iriken! I think I needed someone or should I say SOMEPONY!...... Anyway thank you Iriken! Oh and I'll show myself out.....
So when I first saw Grogar to be revealed as Discord, my immediate thought was that he was actually trying to teach all of the pass villains to be friends the same way he was taught about friendship to prove to twilight that she really was a good ruler/leader. I was actually pretty disappointed when that wasn't the case. It seems like a waste of a good twist Like remember the episode where they all work together to get the Bell? It was hinting at the three of them becoming friends but then it never went anywhere with that plotline. Now imagine they find out discord was trying to force friendship on them for twilight's sake It also doesn't make discord look as douchey His motive would have been more justified. Instead of wanting to cause a conflict for Twilight to fix, he would have been proving to her that he learned that "friendship is magic"
I mean, that still might have been the case, he might have been hoping to soften them so Twilight could convert them in the actual confrontation, thus boosting her confidence even more. But that plan didn't seem to be working, so he was gonna go with plan B of just having them defeated and probably imprisoned once more by the time they betrayed him. I mean, he was putting an awful lot of emphasis on teamwork, but from his perspective, it just wasn't sinking in.
I think a lot of people were theorizing and hoping the villains would side with Twilight at the finale to defeat Grogar, the bigger evil, and it would have been pretty cool that Discord, on his own would of gone behind their backs to teach friendship to other villains so they can feel what he did when he was given a second chance. Granted it took him 6 seasons, but he learned nevertheless. The plan just backfired on him. Would of been cool but oh well. Least we have fanfics for that.
That would’ve been so much better. The villains could’ve befriended each other and the Bell would be the main contention point. Perhaps it contains Grogar’s spirit as well? By using it, they’d accidentally release Grogar, who would challenge Twilight at her coronation. The villains would be part of the team that defeats the real Grogar. Discord would prove that Twilight’s friendship really can solve almost all of their problems, and it would feel like a fitting end to the series. Not to say I hate this finale, because I don’t. Just feels like it would’ve been more poetic and sensical if Discord had been trying to show the villains the power of friendship.
Okay, I haven’t been around for SEVERAL seasons. I just wanted to be here for the end. I watched like one other bronies react since. And hold up. SPIKE HAS WINGS?
RPGQueen87 And the types of animals. Minotaurs being half human half bull and centaurs being half human half horse. Makes me wonder if humans once lived in ancient Equestria or magic mutated certain civilizations.
@@thirdplanet4471 personally if humans did live in Equestria that we were are a extremely ancient civilization that left their world behind or something, now that would be interesting finding old human relics that could put what the alicorns can do to shame would be epic
So sad Solrac, PhilyPu, Orchestral Design, Living Tombstone and Nowacking couldn't join you. It's thanks to them and all of you that I've stayed with the fandom for this long
Yes! I thought this would take another three months to come out! ACRaceBest worked really hard and fast on this one I guess. Thanks ACRaceBest! You’re the best!
I think with the whole thing of 'no one can control chaos magic', there's a difference between taking the magic and controling it. Let me try to explain... When taking his magic back in the season 4 finale, I believe Tirek was more or less taking the energy, and converting it into his own magic. He couldnt actually use any spells or anything. Like when he took the princesses magic, he didnt test the control of the sun and moon like most villians would. He just started destroying shit. And I don't remember him using teleport either... I guess another way of putting it would be like One for All from MHA. Obviously past users had quirks but All Might and Deku only has the enhanced strength and speed, not necessarily past user's quirks. (There's more I can say to explain, but i can't without spoiling shit from the manga so....) Anyway, I think that's an explanation for that scene. Oh! I also think there'd also be a difference between taking and giving the magic, maybe? I ont know, this is all just a theory really.
@@Ven_Pie Mostly the eyes. No matter what form Discord takes, he never changes his eyes. Yellow sclera, bushy white brows? That shit is textbook Discord. Also, the way he was urging them to work together; I had thought that his plan was going to be to teach all of Twilight's remaining foes the magic of friendship so as to turn them into friends
@@ryanbarham8464 Same with me for the most part. I've also took note of the end of the episode "Summer Sun Setback", I'm referring to the entire ending to that episode
I have a theory about Tirek. When he took Discords magic, he already already had the magic/essence of the earth ponies, pegasi, unicorns and then finally Cadence, Celestia and Luna. So Tirek had bulked up to a point where his body could handle the massive amount of magic. With him being as small as he was in these two episodes, he just just didn't have the girth to accommodate it. For Pinkie though ummm, it's Pinkie Pie, we don't question it.
Anyone else catch that sigh sound effect as Celestia and Luna's combined magic attack got absorbed into the bell sounding rather...sexual? It also sounded like their necks broke the instant they both hit the ground afterward. Plus, as much as I find the "Big NO!" trope to be overused, Twilight sounded genuinely horrified. Props to Ms. Strong for that!
It ain't over.... most of us stopped watching the show at some point just to come back for the finale. The finale changes nothing, lol. You gotta remember that other just as large fandoms like furries, sonic, and Star Trek have kept their fandoms nice and ridiculously active despite a lack of consistent official content/official content being garbage.... My point is: the ride is not over until fanart, fanfics, music, unofficial merchandise by fans, discussion, etc stops. Nobody has to feel weird about this. Me personally, I'm probably not gonna stop talking about horses on /mlp/, reading Fimfiction stories, browsing derpibooru, listening to music, etc.... It's all a huge part of me life. /) my dudes
plus the creators have said a new generation could be coming iirc. we dont know if it will be quite as good, or if the brony community will join it or stick with remembering G4, but either way the series isnt over yet.
*Sees Mic the Microphone and D. Notive* OMG THEY'RE BACK!!!!! *Hears Mic being scared of kids* Talk about a 180 turn, he had no problem scaring foals in BDP's Nightmare Night's PMV lol.
"Tasty, tasty crossfires." Why does that sound like something Homer Simpson would say? Lol! Seriously, this show has so many parallels to The Simpsons that it's uncanny. All that's missing is an episode where Rainbow Dash mistakes Derpy for an alien. Lol!
Why the hell no reactor ever CANNOT understand how Grogar's Bell works ? Tirek's ability convertes magic into raw power. He can't use any special abilities that consisted of that magic. Grogar's bell however transmits the magic from one being to another, allowing the latter to use all magic abilities in the bell as if they were their own.
I think of tirek as draining magic like draining a battery. Whereas the bell takes their magical capabilities. Tirek couldn't use new magic he wasn't capable of using before he absorbed the magic of discord or the alicorns. The bell stole the magics properties. That's my head cannon.
@@sandwichgod692 Dude, think about it. The fandom is now on it's own. The show is over and the fandom is now itself alone. That is what makes me say the fandom is only just beginning.
Notice when twilight used the rock as shield it had purple sparkly thing all over and the villains couldnt break through, but at 50:03 the rock's purple sparkly thing is gone and starts to fall apart. I'd like to think that the rock was able to hold off tirek, cozy, and chrysalis' magic because twilight reinforced it with her magic.
WHY are they still showing sympathy to Cozy Glow!? She plotted Equestria’s destruction, twice, and nearly killed our main characters, THERE SHOULD BE NO SYMPATHY FOR HER! The “she’s just a child” defense is BS!
exactly. And she was fully aware she was evil, so they can't even use the 'she just didn't know better'-excuse. She knew she was evil and delighted in it. These kind of people would try to forgive a teenager if said teenager build and activated a nuke in their hometown on purpose.
53:37 is a direct reference to a dragon movie literally called “dragonhearted” and it’s the fourth movie in the series where a dragon friend is being walked on chains and pushed down by a guard of the sister of the main character. Trust me, dragonhearted is very complicated and it’s lore is very complex. I still love it though.
20:56 Until the marshmellow eating contest scene, I didn't realise quite how much taller Twilight is compared to the others... Well, prior to the next episode.
I’m rewatching this 4 years later and I like that there continues to be a difference in the show between Tirek’s powers and Grogar’s bell. Tirek seemingly takes a magical component used to create magic, using that to generate more magic within himself. Hence why cutiemarks disappear. The bell, on the other hand, takes all “refined” magic, including the reserves, rendering them flightless and powerless. Which is why no one can take Discord’s magic. His magical component is vast but ultimately limited. Eons of stored magic though? Much harder to use
My thoughts on the two parter. Honestly, I'm surprised that unicorn fell for Cheese Legs' lies so easily. Hey, hornhead! This isn't freaking before the first Hearth's Warming! Even if it were true certain Earth Ponies are hoarding food and saying such things, they'd be in the minority, not to mention it would hardly do anything. Earth Ponies aren't the only farmers in Equestria anymore. Not to mention there's plenty of food. You're not in a freaking famine like it was back then. How this unicorn just blindly started hating unicorns after this is one of the few nitpicks I have with this episode. "Grogar" had the Flash Stone from G1. it's a good thing Cozy destroyed it. That could've be a dangerous item in the wrong hands considering an evil Octopus used it to subjugate the creatures of Dream Valley. ... You know, reading that over just reminded me how damn weird G1 was. 🤨 I'm also surprised neither Silver Quill or anyone else noticed it, or if they did, didn't bother to mention it. I say it's Discord's own fault he got revealed and lost his magic to the bell. He had plenty of time to teleport out of Cheese Legs' mucus, but instead he flailed around as if it was out of the his power. Even still pretending to be Grogar, he could easily have broken free and avoided getting zapped by the bell. okay, unicorns becoming untrusting of Earth Ponies or not, this is APPLEJACK, a very known savior of Equestria and good friend to the incoming new ruler of Equestria. Something tells me that guard's either always had a hidden grudge against Earth Ponies or Applejack herself for a long time and is now using the rumors Cheese Legs has been spreading as an excuse to let his true feelings dictate his actions . Twi, fire his ass once you're in charge, okay? So, if I've got this right, and I had over 3 weeks to think it over before the two parter officially aired, the real Grogar is dead and he was defeated not by Gusty the Great merely stealing his Bewitching Bell, but by stealing it and draining his magic with it, making him vulnerable and was killed by the Early Equestrians, likely in a war that had all creatures of Equestria, Griffiths, Hippogryffs, Kirin, Ponies, Dragons, Diamond Dogs, you name it. as I mentioned back in The Summer Sun Setback, the animators either forgot or just didn't care that when Tirek fully drains a pony of their magic, their Cutie Mark vanishes too. It's even more glaring here though, since they remembered Rockhoof's over abundance of Earth Pony magic is what gives him his massive size and losing it reverts him back to the scrawny pony he was before... yet still has his Cutie Mark. Somnambula too, when her magic is drained. Cozy saying the Alicorns rely so much on their special powers they forget to use their brain: pot, meet kettle. they missed the chance with the "fly my pretties" line in the dutch dub, so I am extremely happy they used it here 😁 your ass was LITERALLY saved at the last second there, Cozy. Had Cheese Legs and Tirek taken even half a minute longer to get there, Discord would've already gotten his magic back, as would the Princesses and you'd have been SO screwed, with neither of the other two likely bothering to help you because they'd have to fight everyone else because of your failure to beat them on your own, even with two Alicorns and the Lord of Chaos already out of the picture. I'm surprised none of you remembered the outer layer of the castle is infused with Cheese Legs' throne, so while the outside is safe from magical attacks, the inside isn't and they had the magic resistant side of a chunk of wall facing the blast. Cheese Legs saying their magic would be effected too confused me the first time I saw the episode, but then I realized, after the throne was destroyed by the overload of love energy back in season 6, it's properties were altered to effect all magic, not just everything other than Changeling Magic. Plus, Cheese Legs doesn't only have Changeling Magic anymore. With a third of the real Grogar's magic merged with her own magic and coursing through her body, she is now just as vulnerable to the magic canceling effects of the shards as any other non Changeling. A nice detail to include that one wouldn't know unless they've had a long time to try and understand the lore already established. Plus, it also helps hint that the Changeling Kingdom was originally Grogar's kingdom, as he was all about draining other's magic, which is exactly what the throne does. That is the first time in the show anyone other than Scorpan is mentioned from Tirek's family by name (we don't know who his Gram Gram is, so...) ... which then asks the tricky question of whether or not his story from the Fiendship is Magic comics is canon or not. The Changelings and Sirens issues of those comics clearly are no longer canon (the latter thanks to their banishment being shown in the season 7 finale and the former because we've actually seen the Changeling Kingdom in the season finale before that and it was NOTHING like in the comic), and likely not Sombra's either, as his personality is VERY different in the show compared to what it was in that comic. Wow. It recently occurred to me. Starlight breaking out so the rest of the Mane 6 and Spike can get away, and in turn eventually lead to the 3 villains' defeat, truly is all Tirek's fault. And not simply because he took Discord's obvious bait by using Tirek's daddy issues, but also because he didn't bother to drain Starlight of her magic before they locked her up. Wow. The most competent of the villains, the one who kept pointing out what they logically should be doing throughout the whole episode, is the reason they lost. Everyone but Dusty joking about Discord "just throwing rocks" when those rocks are magic draining shards. Throwing them at the bad guys is actually a really smart thing to do. Man, Sugar Belle is really lucky she and Big Mac already got married two episodes ago instead of after this one. With all the animosity the Earth Ponies are feeling towards the unicorns and pegasi right now, if she weren't a member of the Apple Family, I don't think she'd have been safe in Ponyville. But, since she is, nopony is willing to touch her. I mean, would you wanna risk angering Big Mac? Because I sure as fuck wouldn't. Anypony who'd go after *Big Mac's* wife now would have to be beyond idiotic or unless they have a death wish. Yeah, that couldn't have been more obvious a reference to Pinky and the Brain besides having Neighsay say it 😏😆 ya know, it's probably because she's still a filly, but I almost feel bad for Cozy. Almost.
Yes. There will be a separate react for Episode 26. ;-)
yay!
You better not make me cry again damn it...
Jaxblade better be part of that damnit. I want to see him break down in tears.
I’m sure he will with what’s in it
All Rightski.
Pinkie pie with discords powers might just be the most terrifying thing I've ever heard or seen
it will forever be the most blursed image to been seen nothing can top it
When is this? I’ve watched a few videos and I still can’t catch it. :p
@@sdab4856 right after the villains defeat
Happened in the comics, she turned herself into an Alicorn after accidently entering and bonding to Discords dimension.
Like Captain America, she is worthy.
We have to remember when considering the Discord Magic thing: Tirek drains essence, so he probably got all of Discord's magic, but it was probably distilled into raw energy. The bell likely just takes Character A's magic as is and gives it to Character B.
That's actually exactly what I was thinking, when tirek took discords power in his own way, it was just energy, not chaos magic.
That's a really nice theory and makes more sense now since how Tirek before absorb the magic of the 4 alicorns but he doesn't had their powers like moving the sun and moon or something like that
something that Storm King did when he absorb the power of the princesses into the staff
The only valid argument I've seen for "Tirek's schtick copies abilities" is that he made Twilight's friends appear in bubbles.
But Tirek opened a portal to Tartarus *before* draining Discord, so I don't believe that's the case. I think his magic drain is significantly more inefficient than Grogar's bell, which does a far better job of bestowing abilities associated with the magic.
Hmm, good point. He drains core magic (faded eyes and coats) but can leave the magic of the individual alone, thus why he can only drain living beings of magic; Where as this bell can siphon not only core magic but the magic an individual has in all magical aspects, like unto the spell used by Star Swirl to maintain the rotations of the sun and moon, at that time on a dying eclipse....wait, no their cutie marks weren't removed. So it removes their magical abilities and powers and some of their core magic to negate it but not remove it?
Sorry, theory elements of my own. Definitely got some things to write about and determine....
Yes! Thank you.
I think the general consensus is that Tirek in Season 5 stole Discord's energy merely for the power boost; actually tapping into the chaotic aspect of Discord's energy is what Tirek seemingly can't do because he's pure evil, not a chaotic, unbalanced entity like Discord.
This makes sense - Tirek absorbs magic, but seemingly not its abilities. He never grows wings, or the ability to teleport; so he absorbed the "battery" part of Discord's magic, but knows he can't control the "function"
Season 5? Tirek was season 4?
Still doesn’t make sense, as Tirek himself says that he devours and absorbs magic, not energy. He should have been able to absorb Discord’s magic from the Bell just as he once did from Discord directly.
Ergo, he should’ve had no problem absorbing Discord’a magic from the Bell. If anything, I think it would’ve made this episode more epic if he had. He would’ve been gigantic.
Give Cozy Glow her Alicorn magic, give Chrysalis the ability to use the magic of whatever form she has taken, and give Tirek his giant form. The Mane Six and everyone else defeating them would’ve had more impact that way.
Though I still think the idea of Discord posing as Grogar to redeem these villains to give Twilight more confidence was better. They’d betray him, use the magic from the Bell, and unintentionally release the real Grogar, who was trapped inside of it. The three of them would work with the Mane Six to stop Grogar, admitting at the end that they are friends with each other.
@@Doomzdeh Tirek said that he can only absorb magic from living beings, so he couldn't absorb the magic from inside the bell
Discord: Nobody is more chaotic than me.
Pinkie: *Hold my cannon.*
well since Discord is a creature of Chaos releasing villains to help the main character grow in his mind it makes sense to him. A normal pony of course it would be a dumb idea.
richbuild pinkie is the only character other than discord chaotic enough to wield the chaos magic
Hold my canon
You misspelled canon. Lol see what I did there?
FEqBrony well, he’s referring to Pinkie Pie’s camera.
"Bitch, what...bitch, where...bitch, why?"
One of the funniest lines Losty has ever said
I use that line now
Timestamp?
We should all take a moment of Silence for Nowacking, Animated James, Solrac and many others. Who did not join us for this final bronies React.
We have one morw
@acracebest needs to pin this comment
..I miss nowacking reactin,g solracs rage sound effects and James good sense of improv
don't forget fire team harmony.
@@LightfulWingsYT From what I've heard, Nowacking has gone through some...changes this year.
As for James, his channel may be gone
Dusty was on to something, if Grogar is the father of monsters, and his bell turns Cozy Glow into an Alicorn, which is a Chimera of a unicorn and Pegasus, Zecora's memory potion requires Alicorn Magic, Twilight used Sombra's magic, Sombra's magic is inherently evil by using a target's fear against them...so *are* Alicorns truly monsters, monsters that rebelled against Grogar?
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WHAT THE FUCK?!???! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Rarity: There I was, at the end of the throne room, when Tirek grabbed Twilight! He was getting closer, closer...
Sweetie Belle: And?
Rarity: I THREW A ROCK AT HIM!!
Sweetie Belle: ...
Rarity: It was a big rock...
"My destiny is a stupid ROCK?!" -Rarity, season 1.
Yes Rarity of season 1, it is. Using a stupid rock is probably the most important thing you've now done, your part in shaping destiny.
@@ravenscroftraven1786 Also, you had a crush on a rock. It's fate, Rarity.
"I get it!"
"Shut up, Nappa!"
OMFG YES!!!
@@simonep8613 spoilers:
the reason she is singel in the last episode is becuase she loves a rock😱
Grogar's Bell could also contain the _properties_ of the magic, which is something Tirek can't do, hence why he didn't gain chaos magic when he drained Discord back in season 4. He merely gains the magnitude of the power, but not its properties.
Thanos: " I AM INEVITABLE "
Twilight:"AND I AM THE PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP "
And I'm an alcoholic mutated cyborg that killed a god
AND I WAS NEVER IN THE SHOW WHAT KIND IF BULLSHIT IS THAT???!
PINKIE: YOU'RE ALL ICING NOW, BITCHES!!!!
@@emperorgrogar276 is there ANY other reason you dislike the finale OTHER than the fact we dont get to see a grogar fight
@@thadmaster7 .....Maybe the fact that they tarnished my legacy
ruined my reputation
and possibly ruined any serious return in the future for my character in all his former glory.
..... We also didn't see another amazing Tirek VS Twilight fight.
The concept of calling Twilight "Twiggy", just tickles me pink.
I prefer to call her Twily when I want to change her name.
I love how they dont even hesitate to turn the villains in stone, redemption wasn't even an option
Nathaniel Foga on this case Chrysalis and Cozy Glow rejected friendship when given the opportunity and Tirek is Tirek.
@@thirdplanet4471 exactly
I wanted them turned into stone and then banished to the moon
Of course, being turned to stone, like this video mentioned, gives the opportunity for redemption in the future, just like Discord. Not that it's likely, but then again, we would've said the same amount Discord, and here we are.
I was surprised, to be honest. First of all, that Discord would suggest it; he knows just how awful it was for him. Second, when the punishment is about to happen... Luna, Discord, Starlight, Trixie, and Tempest are all right there, and not even one of them speaks up to offer the villains a chance.
Also littleshy and dustykatt asking about how pinkie got discords powers to quote firebrand
"Its pinkie pie dont question it"
My head Canon is that cosy is a Dwarf pretending to be a Child, like in that horror movie "orphan".
I mean, maybe, but i like to think she is a child. That is what makes her unique, and my favorite of the trio
@@brolytriplethreat I just thought The ending was less dark if you think like that.
@@eventyraren I mean, sure, though to me the just a child excuse doesn't fly when they have been willing to destroy Equestria and murder. She's asleep now anyway, so it isn't quite as dark as you think, especially with the track record of these sorts of seals. Only a matter of time until they are free.
I also see Cozy as an orphan, all things considered.
@@brolytriplethreat I have NO problem with your idea. It is just my headcanon.
she's Baby Doll
Gabe: You know your career is on its way downhill when you have to do a child's voice in a pony cartoon.
Claire's face: Yeah......Wait a minute!
They said this episode isn’t a good finale
BUT I DIDNT LISTEN!
Meme from 2015 to save us all. :-)
Thats a blast from the past
* laughs *
^_^
It actually is a better series finale than the last episode.
@@bonbonpony where the frick is lyra???
When Pinkie went Chaos God, it made me realize that the script writers read the mlp infinite time loops. In it Pinkie spent a lot of time looped into the 40k universe and became the Chaos God of PINK. It was disturbing but hillarious.
Now I gotta see this, should I ask for a link or just look for it myself?!
I was ready for this react, I wasn't ready for the next one.
They killed a child............👍🏻
one of the funniest reactions I've seen in a while. Thank you that my man.
Bruh...
@@NeoStrikevoiceover Not killed exactly, but based on our reactions, close enough. . .
@@NeoStrikevoiceover hasbro: KIDS SHOW also hasbro: KID THE CHILD!!!!!
I like how almost if not everyone went from being neutral at best towards Starlight to hyping her up. That’s some meta character growth-
Tirek may have drained Discord before, however, at that point in "Twilight's Kingdom", Tirek was stronger than he was here - the bell returned him to his third form, but he took Discord's magic once he was in his fourth form, having just absorbed the magic of the Mane Six. It's likely that in his current state Tirek isn't strong enough to control Discord's magic like he could before, and since he was able to do it before, he would know that he's not cut out for it this time.
Also, it appears that when Tirek absorbs the magic of others he converts the foreign magic into his own form of magic, but the bell simply transfers magic from one being to another; so in "Twilight's Kingdom" Tirek didn't have to deal with the chaotic nature of Discord's magic, just the enormous raw power the Lord of Chaos possesses.
Another way of looking at is it that Tirek's mana drain only lets him absorb the raw energy of the person he drains. The bell, however, steals not only a person's inherent magical energy, but also the unique powers attached to that energy. When he first drained Discord, Tirek only received a boost to his own power, whereas if he tried to absorb the magic using the bell he'd be overwhelmed by the chaos energy attached to it.
also he absorb the magic of the 4 princesses from Twilight but he didn't get their powers
an example of that is when Storm King absorb their powers with the staff and the proof is when he moves the sun and moon!
@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940
Yeah. It seems that Tirek's way of doing it is to convert the magic into raw power that he can just throw around, while Grogar's bell transfers the magic itself with any unique properties it may have being kept.
Well said
Jaxblade made my whole day with his reactions especially when he fell off the chair
R.I.P MLP G4 2010-2019
The best 9 years every
Help I thought that said MLG XD
@@annabelle5182 **airhorn noises**
IDW has confirmed next year they are making a season 10 in comic form much like other tv ips have had such a treatment when they ended on tv
Annetabby436 Should have ended with Season 10 with the real Grogar
One of the many things I’ve loved was how it was shown how insanely powerful the chaos magic is. Even if it was only for a few seconds the ponies who had it practically went cosmic
I love the reactions when it was revealed that Discord was Grogar.
i reacted the same way when i saw it XD had to pause rewind watch again pause and stare and go "wait WHAT...no really WHAT THE HELL?!?!"
Especially JaxBlade
My personal favorite reaction to that revelation was Applegeek's.
Honestly Discord. I know you had good intentions dude. But seriously! Why the fuck did you think that would work?!
Funny how Stonehoof gets smaller when Tirek takes his magic, and poison joke made the pony he shares his element with tiny.
This is literally a pony version of endgame 🤣😂😂😂
Roma Taliona ASMR Infinity War AND Endgame respectively.
Roma Taliona ASMR Especially in the climax. You can tell everyone who made the finale are huge MCU fans.
Roma Taliona won’t ever be as good
Jimmy Killeen They can dream.
Tavionna Marshall Yeah.
Twilight: “What if I make things worse?”
Littleshy: “get Twilight”
Me: “get Sunset”
Quacking Mad Sunset'll fix all your problems
Fun fact: Sunset was gonna be in this finale, but Jim for some reason didn't allow it.
Spike protecting Rarity few seconds after being knocked out few seconds later is badass af
1:27:40
“Some people just have to be turned to stone.”
No truer words were ever said.
Me: My little Pony is ending. I'm going to miss this show.
Littleshyfim: THE END IS NEIGH!
@Ryan Fry 1:32:27 technically........
@Ryan Fry did you click the timestamp I put? It is
@@the.nikhiller it was bronydanceparty you dipshit
@@ryanfry140 ur the dip shit it's literally little shy, in the previous cut you even see him get up. You actual idiot
@@the.nikhiller BronyDanceParty said it originally, at the very beginning.
When it was first revealed that Discord was Grogor
My IMMEDIATE thought was that he was trying to show Tirek, Cozy and Chrysalis the "magic of friendship" to prove to twilight how far she'd come and how far he'd come because of her
And I thought the episode "Frenemies" was proof that my theory was right
I was so disappointed to find out his real motivation
And honestly, I think it would have been kinda cool if at least ONE of them was redeemed
Indeed. They were clearly setting up a transition arc for them in Frenemies but just ended up doing nothing with it. Honestly, what was even the point of bringing them in season nine? They swore revenge and by the end they still swear revenge. They where already no threat to Equestria by the beginning of season nine until Discord messed up big time. Overall, I'm too very disappointed in what could've been a way more interesting story rather than the typical finales for FiM at that point.
would you believe me if i said if one were to be redeemed it would be Chrysalis, like even to this day i feel Cozy Glow would never accept the kind of Friendship twilight believes in and instead believes of Friendship as Power... like honestly she is just too far GONE
@@Federation-Cosmo-Boltaccording to Jim miller the trio were never meant to reform and the scene in frenemies was intended to just mislead the audience
59:34
AcRacebest : STONE THEM, STONE THEM, STONE THEM, STONE THEM
1:26:37
AcRacebest : Ooohhhhh...
iman ishraf Wonder how Maud would take that?
They got stoned
Subtle Foreshadowing
I don't think he meant THAT kind of stone XD
Nor the weed kind of stone
Everyone says Tirek controlled Discord's magic, but he only took it. I think he just stored it inside of him.
It’s really the end of an era everyone.
Star Script everything ends. But the funny thing about life is that even though everything eventually ends, nothing ever really _dies._ mlp will continue to inspire, entertain, and comfort people for years and years to come.
Yeah, I feel really sad.... I mean I know everything has to come to a end but.... Fuck! It came to quick. I will miss MLP and the fandom. By the way I never got the chance to go to a bronycon 😭
@@superheavyxd2684 - sad you never got to any of the pony conventions.. but why do you act like MLP is gone forever???
MLP is strong, so even with like G5 coming, fans of G4 and Older will continue with new things
@@irkenpony17 Yeah you are right! It just felt sad that G4 is over but you are right! We will continue! Thank you Iriken! I think I needed someone or should I say SOMEPONY!...... Anyway thank you Iriken!
Oh and I'll show myself out.....
SuperHeavyXD - Ok? xD
rarity: "dress"
viva reverie: *_implodes_*
So when I first saw Grogar to be revealed as Discord, my immediate thought was that he was actually trying to teach all of the pass villains to be friends the same way he was taught about friendship to prove to twilight that she really was a good ruler/leader.
I was actually pretty disappointed when that wasn't the case.
It seems like a waste of a good twist
Like remember the episode where they all work together to get the Bell? It was hinting at the three of them becoming friends but then it never went anywhere with that plotline.
Now imagine they find out discord was trying to force friendship on them for twilight's sake
It also doesn't make discord look as douchey
His motive would have been more justified. Instead of wanting to cause a conflict for Twilight to fix, he would have been proving to her that he learned that "friendship is magic"
I mean, that still might have been the case, he might have been hoping to soften them so Twilight could convert them in the actual confrontation, thus boosting her confidence even more. But that plan didn't seem to be working, so he was gonna go with plan B of just having them defeated and probably imprisoned once more by the time they betrayed him.
I mean, he was putting an awful lot of emphasis on teamwork, but from his perspective, it just wasn't sinking in.
I think a lot of people were theorizing and hoping the villains would side with Twilight at the finale to defeat Grogar, the bigger evil, and it would have been pretty cool that Discord, on his own would of gone behind their backs to teach friendship to other villains so they can feel what he did when he was given a second chance. Granted it took him 6 seasons, but he learned nevertheless. The plan just backfired on him. Would of been cool but oh well.
Least we have fanfics for that.
That would’ve been so much better. The villains could’ve befriended each other and the Bell would be the main contention point. Perhaps it contains Grogar’s spirit as well? By using it, they’d accidentally release Grogar, who would challenge Twilight at her coronation. The villains would be part of the team that defeats the real Grogar. Discord would prove that Twilight’s friendship really can solve almost all of their problems, and it would feel like a fitting end to the series.
Not to say I hate this finale, because I don’t. Just feels like it would’ve been more poetic and sensical if Discord had been trying to show the villains the power of friendship.
Okay, I haven’t been around for SEVERAL seasons. I just wanted to be here for the end. I watched like one other bronies react since.
And hold up.
SPIKE HAS WINGS?
Yea he hit puberty and got wings
Btw, to the guy who keeps calling Tirek a Minotaur: Iron Will is a Minotaur, Tirek is a Centaur. The difference? Bipedalism
RPGQueen87 And the types of animals. Minotaurs being half human half bull and centaurs being half human half horse. Makes me wonder if humans once lived in ancient Equestria or magic mutated certain civilizations.
*YES THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT*
@@thirdplanet4471 personally if humans did live in Equestria that we were are a extremely ancient civilization that left their world behind or something, now that would be interesting finding old human relics that could put what the alicorns can do to shame would be epic
So sad Solrac, PhilyPu, Orchestral Design, Living Tombstone and Nowacking couldn't join you.
It's thanks to them and all of you that I've stayed with the fandom for this long
Yes! I thought this would take another three months to come out! ACRaceBest worked really hard and fast on this one I guess. Thanks ACRaceBest! You’re the best!
I think with the whole thing of 'no one can control chaos magic', there's a difference between taking the magic and controling it.
Let me try to explain...
When taking his magic back in the season 4 finale, I believe Tirek was more or less taking the energy, and converting it into his own magic. He couldnt actually use any spells or anything.
Like when he took the princesses magic, he didnt test the control of the sun and moon like most villians would. He just started destroying shit.
And I don't remember him using teleport either...
I guess another way of putting it would be like One for All from MHA.
Obviously past users had quirks but All Might and Deku only has the enhanced strength and speed, not necessarily past user's quirks.
(There's more I can say to explain, but i can't without spoiling shit from the manga so....)
Anyway, I think that's an explanation for that scene.
Oh! I also think there'd also be a difference between taking and giving the magic, maybe? I ont know, this is all just a theory really.
"Behold the power of...TACO BELL"
The fact that Clare Corlett acts THIS INSANE in this review only solidifies my theory that Sweetie Belle will end up as an evil overlord one day!
Uh oh
An evil overlord with an army robot clones
I love how Jax has Into the Spiderverse in the background
Glad someone noticed :0
Who can blame him?
41:53
Chrysalis: You'll pay for that
Starlight: Put it on my tab
Me: 𝙁𝙐𝘾𝙆 𝙔𝙀𝘼𝙃 𝙄 𝙇𝙊𝙑𝙀 𝙎𝙏𝘼𝙍𝙇𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏
she was always a sass and i LOVE IT!
second best moment from her: *bitch slaps the book outta twilights hooves*
Too much 90's action movies
Does Equestria even have TVs? Who cares Starlight is still Best Pony.
She is super cool
Grogar: *turns into Discord*
Every analyst: aasdjghilyasbdlvksdfaWHAAAAAA?
Me: Called it.
I was spoiled about that.
@@_spkle They gots the same eyes
I called it too. What made you figure it out?
@@Ven_Pie Mostly the eyes. No matter what form Discord takes, he never changes his eyes. Yellow sclera, bushy white brows? That shit is textbook Discord. Also, the way he was urging them to work together; I had thought that his plan was going to be to teach all of Twilight's remaining foes the magic of friendship so as to turn them into friends
@@ryanbarham8464 Same with me for the most part. I've also took note of the end of the episode "Summer Sun Setback", I'm referring to the entire ending to that episode
Does anyone realize that everything we though Flurry Heart is, Cozy Glow is all of it. Not only an alicorn, but a little demon
So that’s it huh,
We just some kind of bronies react?
"Courageous and strong, and thin mints."
Oh my god.
I prefer Trefoils
OH NO
*_OHHH NOOOOO_*
*_I’M GENUINELY FRIGHTENED_*
Edit: ”Darla Dimples an alicorn now we’re screwed” THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
My theory is that Cozy Glow is actually an adult pegasus who is just a miniature pegasus (like a little person), and just passed herself as a child.
So basically an adult with dwarfism?
I was not expecting Mic’s impression of Tirek to be THAT good.
Don't be sad it's over be happy it happened -Dr. Seuss
I have a theory about Tirek. When he took Discords magic, he already already had the magic/essence of the earth ponies, pegasi, unicorns and then finally Cadence, Celestia and Luna. So Tirek had bulked up to a point where his body could handle the massive amount of magic. With him being as small as he was in these two episodes, he just just didn't have the girth to accommodate it. For Pinkie though ummm, it's Pinkie Pie, we don't question it.
THE
*G I R T H*
Everyone: TEMPESSSST
Me: AUTUMN BLAZE IN THA HOUSE
Discord is the whole reason why season 9 exist in the first place
*59:34* "STONE THEM!! STONE THEM!! STONE THEM!!"
Oh, that context will certainly change soon. XD
Cozy Glow: We're Villains, duh!
*Not a single person made a reference to Suicide squad or Billie eilish*
Disappointed
Or Lord Dominator or MandoPony
I am a bad guy...
Duh🤷♀️
Because nobody remembers Suicide Squad
Good point actually
@@NeteriXX it's remembered more than Justice League
Anyone else catch that sigh sound effect as Celestia and Luna's combined magic attack got absorbed into the bell sounding rather...sexual? It also sounded like their necks broke the instant they both hit the ground afterward. Plus, as much as I find the "Big NO!" trope to be overused, Twilight sounded genuinely horrified. Props to Ms. Strong for that!
It ain't over.... most of us stopped watching the show at some point just to come back for the finale. The finale changes nothing, lol.
You gotta remember that other just as large fandoms like furries, sonic, and Star Trek have kept their fandoms nice and ridiculously active despite a lack of consistent official content/official content being garbage....
My point is: the ride is not over until fanart, fanfics, music, unofficial merchandise by fans, discussion, etc stops. Nobody has to feel weird about this.
Me personally, I'm probably not gonna stop talking about horses on /mlp/, reading Fimfiction stories, browsing derpibooru, listening to music, etc.... It's all a huge part of me life.
/) my dudes
knexfan100 dang dis looooonnng paragraph
@@ponygirl3.6mlp 4 paragraphs and a sentence fragment, yes.... but its whatever
knexfan100 haha lol can’t wait 4 da vid
Two words: Brown Coats
plus the creators have said a new generation could be coming iirc. we dont know if it will be quite as good, or if the brony community will join it or stick with remembering G4, but either way the series isnt over yet.
36:50
Tirek: *attacks with the ground*
Everyone: “HE’S AN EARTH BENDER!!”
Jaxblade getting hyped brings me joy.
1:03:58 I'm so glad he pointed that out about windegos. That was my very same thought when I first saw them.
Oh my god, I wish Mic was in every Bronies React now, his sense of humor is amazing.
14:27 Had to get the best reactions out of everyone lol. Everyones universal reaction was just "WHAT"
Mine was a good old “Wait what????”
There's one more finale episode!
The last problem
They might react to that in this vid
Nah he mentioned in the teaser that will be a separate video coming up shortly
@Shrugerz I just watched the video. my mistake
I love everyone's freaked out when Discord is revealed
*Sees Mic the Microphone and D. Notive* OMG THEY'RE BACK!!!!!
*Hears Mic being scared of kids* Talk about a 180 turn, he had no problem scaring foals in BDP's Nightmare Night's PMV lol.
"Tasty, tasty crossfires."
Why does that sound like something Homer Simpson would say? Lol!
Seriously, this show has so many parallels to The Simpsons that it's uncanny. All that's missing is an episode where Rainbow Dash mistakes Derpy for an alien. Lol!
I hope that there are reactions to other Season 9 episodes, because I can think of a FEW I'd love to see reactions to.
Same
The Last Crusade, Growing Up Is Hard To Do, and Between Dark and Dawn would be nice
@@NthDoctorWho Don't forget the Big Mac Question!
And angel speaks too..
Also, dude, you're scared of WEN-digos. Those storm horses are WIND-igos.
Why the hell no reactor ever CANNOT understand how Grogar's Bell works ?
Tirek's ability convertes magic into raw power. He can't use any special abilities that consisted of that magic. Grogar's bell however transmits the magic from one being to another, allowing the latter to use all magic abilities in the bell as if they were their own.
Tony takes the infinity stones from thanos.
pinkie pie take discords chaos magic.
The difference is that Pinkie doesn't die
chrysalis: enough! or the dragon's wings get plucked!
me: no, he just got those! you bastard!
I think of tirek as draining magic like draining a battery. Whereas the bell takes their magical capabilities. Tirek couldn't use new magic he wasn't capable of using before he absorbed the magic of discord or the alicorns. The bell stole the magics properties. That's my head cannon.
14:29
Everyone in react: What?!
Me: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Also me: Hehehehehehehe
I’ll be like say wha?
Favorite part XD
Now we will never find out if the Flash Stone was real, or what it could have done.
Thanks a lot, Cozy! :(
48:41 "Look Out! Hear Comes Tom!" - Twilight Sparkle
37:29 My immediate reaction was to say "delicioso" right after
I haven't seen Dora in years so wtf brain.
I honestly don’t blame you. That show had a special held nostalgia for me as a child. And honestly still holds up well. Believe it or not.😊
Their reactions to discord being Grogar pretty much matched my own
39:28 epic moment, I didn't even realized it's ACRacebest. Good catch.
Why does saberspark sound likes he's doing a review
That's just his normal voice.
Coz he's a natural douche lol
@@uber21 This is the right answer
Saberspark Notice me senpai.
How goes the R34 mister spark
Near the end, I was waiting for AC to go: "So...we're not going to forgive them...are we?"
The show may be ending, but the fandom is only just beginning.
That's a lie
@@lilmisschrystyle3140 Well you're no fun.
EvAn Ze Geek VA Episode 24 = Infinity War
Episode 25 = Endgame
Episode 26 = Timeskip many years later
No it's not. The fandom has been around for years.
@@sandwichgod692 Dude, think about it. The fandom is now on it's own. The show is over and the fandom is now itself alone. That is what makes me say the fandom is only just beginning.
Loved every1's reaction 2 Grogar being Discord.
Low key just realized that this was probably technically the Halloween Bronies react lol 😂 😂 good thing jax turned in to Thor before it ended lol 😂 😂
And I was hoping Sunset Shimmer was going to be their Captain Marvel at the very last minute of battle!
Notice when twilight used the rock as shield it had purple sparkly thing all over and the villains couldnt break through, but at 50:03 the rock's purple sparkly thing is gone and starts to fall apart. I'd like to think that the rock was able to hold off tirek, cozy, and chrysalis' magic because twilight reinforced it with her magic.
Seriously, when it was revealed that Grogar was really Discord, KP should have made an over the top reaction just for that part.
littleshy is best thumbnail, with all 70 of his chins
24:42 so in theory, Discord can bring back anyone from the dead (like AJ’s parents….?)
WHY are they still showing sympathy to Cozy Glow!? She plotted Equestria’s destruction, twice, and nearly killed our main characters, THERE SHOULD BE NO SYMPATHY FOR HER! The “she’s just a child” defense is BS!
exactly.
And she was fully aware she was evil, so they can't even use the 'she just didn't know better'-excuse. She knew she was evil and delighted in it.
These kind of people would try to forgive a teenager if said teenager build and activated a nuke in their hometown on purpose.
miniman649 Still, a child is a child.
@@redballoon9007 a psychopathic attempted murder is a psychopathic attempted murder
Fresh2000 Fair-
Silver wasn't sympathetic he actually stated that the "she's just a child" defence doesn't apply anymore because she tried to kill the main six
53:37 is a direct reference to a dragon movie literally called “dragonhearted” and it’s the fourth movie in the series where a dragon friend is being walked on chains and pushed down by a guard of the sister of the main character. Trust me, dragonhearted is very complicated and it’s lore is very complex. I still love it though.
20:56 Until the marshmellow eating contest scene, I didn't realise quite how much taller Twilight is compared to the others... Well, prior to the next episode.
I’m rewatching this 4 years later and I like that there continues to be a difference in the show between Tirek’s powers and Grogar’s bell.
Tirek seemingly takes a magical component used to create magic, using that to generate more magic within himself. Hence why cutiemarks disappear. The bell, on the other hand, takes all “refined” magic, including the reserves, rendering them flightless and powerless. Which is why no one can take Discord’s magic. His magical component is vast but ultimately limited. Eons of stored magic though? Much harder to use
Why did Gabe go through the trouble of recording two separate bits
Because Claire wanted to film with me when I went to LA, but Jeff wanted me to film on my own... So all of us compromised. XP
@@BlackGryph0n are you and claire dating?!! You guys are so cute!!!
Pinkie: What are we gonna do twilight?
Littleshy: *gET twILIgHt*
My thoughts on the two parter.
Honestly, I'm surprised that unicorn fell for Cheese Legs' lies so easily.
Hey, hornhead! This isn't freaking before the first Hearth's Warming!
Even if it were true certain Earth Ponies are hoarding food and saying such things, they'd be in the minority, not to mention it would hardly do anything. Earth Ponies aren't the only farmers in Equestria anymore.
Not to mention there's plenty of food. You're not in a freaking famine like it was back then.
How this unicorn just blindly started hating unicorns after this is one of the few nitpicks I have with this episode.
"Grogar" had the Flash Stone from G1.
it's a good thing Cozy destroyed it.
That could've be a dangerous item in the wrong hands considering an evil Octopus used it to subjugate the creatures of Dream Valley.
...
You know, reading that over just reminded me how damn weird G1 was. 🤨
I'm also surprised neither Silver Quill or anyone else noticed it, or if they did, didn't bother to mention it.
I say it's Discord's own fault he got revealed and lost his magic to the bell.
He had plenty of time to teleport out of Cheese Legs' mucus, but instead he flailed around as if it was out of the his power. Even still pretending to be Grogar, he could easily have broken free and avoided getting zapped by the bell.
okay, unicorns becoming untrusting of Earth Ponies or not, this is APPLEJACK, a very known savior of Equestria and good friend to the incoming new ruler of Equestria.
Something tells me that guard's either always had a hidden grudge against Earth Ponies or Applejack herself for a long time and is now using the rumors Cheese Legs has been spreading as an excuse to let his true feelings dictate his actions .
Twi, fire his ass once you're in charge, okay?
So, if I've got this right, and I had over 3 weeks to think it over before the two parter officially aired, the real Grogar is dead and he was defeated not by Gusty the Great merely stealing his Bewitching Bell, but by stealing it and draining his magic with it, making him vulnerable and was killed by the Early Equestrians, likely in a war that had all creatures of Equestria, Griffiths, Hippogryffs, Kirin, Ponies, Dragons, Diamond Dogs, you name it.
as I mentioned back in The Summer Sun Setback, the animators either forgot or just didn't care that when Tirek fully drains a pony of their magic, their Cutie Mark vanishes too.
It's even more glaring here though, since they remembered Rockhoof's over abundance of Earth Pony magic is what gives him his massive size and losing it reverts him back to the scrawny pony he was before... yet still has his Cutie Mark. Somnambula too, when her magic is drained.
Cozy saying the Alicorns rely so much on their special powers they forget to use their brain: pot, meet kettle.
they missed the chance with the "fly my pretties" line in the dutch dub, so I am extremely happy they used it here 😁
your ass was LITERALLY saved at the last second there, Cozy. Had Cheese Legs and Tirek taken even half a minute longer to get there, Discord would've already gotten his magic back, as would the Princesses and you'd have been SO screwed, with neither of the other two likely bothering to help you because they'd have to fight everyone else because of your failure to beat them on your own, even with two Alicorns and the Lord of Chaos already out of the picture.
I'm surprised none of you remembered the outer layer of the castle is infused with Cheese Legs' throne, so while the outside is safe from magical attacks, the inside isn't and they had the magic resistant side of a chunk of wall facing the blast.
Cheese Legs saying their magic would be effected too confused me the first time I saw the episode, but then I realized, after the throne was destroyed by the overload of love energy back in season 6, it's properties were altered to effect all magic, not just everything other than Changeling Magic. Plus, Cheese Legs doesn't only have Changeling Magic anymore.
With a third of the real Grogar's magic merged with her own magic and coursing through her body, she is now just as vulnerable to the magic canceling effects of the shards as any other non Changeling.
A nice detail to include that one wouldn't know unless they've had a long time to try and understand the lore already established.
Plus, it also helps hint that the Changeling Kingdom was originally Grogar's kingdom, as he was all about draining other's magic, which is exactly what the throne does.
That is the first time in the show anyone other than Scorpan is mentioned from Tirek's family by name (we don't know who his Gram Gram is, so...) ... which then asks the tricky question of whether or not his story from the Fiendship is Magic comics is canon or not.
The Changelings and Sirens issues of those comics clearly are no longer canon (the latter thanks to their banishment being shown in the season 7 finale and the former because we've actually seen the Changeling Kingdom in the season finale before that and it was NOTHING like in the comic), and likely not Sombra's either, as his personality is VERY different in the show compared to what it was in that comic.
Wow. It recently occurred to me. Starlight breaking out so the rest of the Mane 6 and Spike can get away, and in turn eventually lead to the 3 villains' defeat, truly is all Tirek's fault.
And not simply because he took Discord's obvious bait by using Tirek's daddy issues, but also because he didn't bother to drain Starlight of her magic before they locked her up.
Wow. The most competent of the villains, the one who kept pointing out what they logically should be doing throughout the whole episode, is the reason they lost.
Everyone but Dusty joking about Discord "just throwing rocks" when those rocks are magic draining shards. Throwing them at the bad guys is actually a really smart thing to do.
Man, Sugar Belle is really lucky she and Big Mac already got married two episodes ago instead of after this one.
With all the animosity the Earth Ponies are feeling towards the unicorns and pegasi right now, if she weren't a member of the Apple Family, I don't think she'd have been safe in Ponyville.
But, since she is, nopony is willing to touch her.
I mean, would you wanna risk angering Big Mac? Because I sure as fuck wouldn't.
Anypony who'd go after *Big Mac's* wife now would have to be beyond idiotic or unless they have a death wish.
Yeah, that couldn't have been more obvious a reference to Pinky and the Brain besides having Neighsay say it 😏😆
ya know, it's probably because she's still a filly, but I almost feel bad for Cozy. Almost.
I love how they brought a bunch of the OG reactors back. Haven’t seen mic the microphone here in ages or dusty
Having Dusty pretend to be Kamina was one of the best things in the entire video... despite the fact he looks more like Lordgenome. :3