@Help Line I think he was trying to be nice by not initially rejecting her outright, as it would be rude, so he just negotiated with Peter. One time, in the American version of this show Shark Tank, Mr. Wonderful was outright rejected by the business owner and that seemed to greatly upset him, causing all of the Sharks (they’re called Sharks in the American version) to be very offended.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I guess money is ruthless! I could understand that man is from a poor background and desperate to mix with someone like Peter, but I still think if I were Peter, I would reject him, and I hope his business 📈 crashes .
I thought he was very tactful with Peter and gained his respect, tough but reasonable, and not at all rude or arrogant, so, no reason for Peter to turn away, and he knows a negotiator like that has the capacity to push through many troubles with ease.
I'm honestly surprised that the first guy was able to walk out of there quite easily, considering he had to carry the weight of his massive balls with him.
might just have been the fact that he was, in the first place, able to carry his own "balls" to the game, the reason for his success... particularly in this segment of perceived luxury/value/quality
First guy was absolutely an investible character. He stood before business giants and negotiated with them on equal footing. You don’t come across people like that very often
Yhh to negotiate like that and particularly when being presented with situations on the spot and being able to come up with counter offers within a few seconds, shows how experienced he is. Also considering the number of mediocre business owners that appeared on the show, this guy stood out way above anyone else. His negotiation tactics impressed Peter and showed that he is an experienced person.
He has obviously not been to a motorway services and seen the ques for the lorry wash.. alot more business in lorry washing than car washing. Like to see him washing a lorry on his drive with a bucket and a sponge. . And yes I'm a lorry driver .
@@animaltvi9515 Yeah, he was told why lorries need washing regularly and how the convenient window appears for that to be done, plus the low charge, and yet falls back on his disproven argument. That was surprising, because he`s usually pretty sound.
Richard didn't get the credit he deserved as a Dragon, he's incredibly astute. He stood up to a couple of the Dragons on one episode for which they didn't like. I feel he was clearly pushed from the show.
I really like that Richard Farleigh shook hands with the guy who turned him down. He's such a class act, can't imagine any of the other Dragons doing that. I don't think the programme been the same since he left.
That first guys negotiation was very smart. He basically made Peter commit to securing the contract that would increase the companies value such that Peter would drop his percent down to 25. Basically Peter had to do the work to be ‘rewarded’ by dropping his own percentage down.
Mythical Moose well there are the new episodes on Iplayer already great start at episode one we had 3 investments from 3 different dragons it's fantastic
@@freezasama5802 this video is focused on negotiations so ofc there is investments. This is a compilations from different episodes. This isnt one episode, dont you see the dragons are younger first? Set is different. Are u that dumb to not notice and think its one episode?
Just Smoke I'm not talking about this video I'm talking about the episode of the new season on Iplayer this is just 4 different investments from different episodes in the new series we get 3 investments in that single episode
James Caan completely ripped off Sharon (Magnamole). He only offered a loan (and paid her barely any of it) and charged her a fee for support, which crippled her finances. She had a breakdown, broke off the contract, but eventually restarted the business and is doing ok now.
Not quite,she never went through with it and when Duncan found out he offered her investment for equity, how it was supposed to be. James Caan was a total snake,trying to rip her off like that
The dragons all work together acting like they are competing with each other when they are just fooling the entrepreneurs to give them more equity in their company
Just googled Magna Mole only to read a Daily Mail article outlining the 80k "equity" agreement for 22.5% was in fact a "loan". It also states Sharon was charged a monthly "advisory fee" and tipped into using contractor who charged more for their services. She should have hired a lawyer from the start of dealing with the Dragons and maybe they would have not ripped her off.
They are all sharks not dragons and anyone going in there thinking any different is naive - search and see how many of the “winners” companies have been dissolved after a couple of years
I love to watch negotiations taking place because there is something so satisfying and respectful in it. The first one with Peter Jones was amazing how they were bouncing the moneyball like tennis with business and I can tell that everybody in that room enjoyed it with one way or another.
Sharon ended up suing James Caan for defamation because he lied about the money, offered no expert help, and made her reduce her salary from £50k to £12k. She managed to end her contract with them but spent 3 weeks in hospital for a nervous breakdown. I remember reading about it not long ago 😟
@@GlowingAsteroid that's because this is completely heresay and they have no source listed for a reason. It would be a libel suit not defamation. And I can find no actual confirmation of the OPs comment.
It’s a shame magnamole was fucked over by Caan, but despite this and many years of hard work I’m so so glad she is back on top and is a successful business woman without help for Caan or any other dragons help!
Its a shame how Sharon was absolutely screwed by this show. She came wanting relief and guidance and left with a path that took years from her life, no doubt.
Sharon Wright is definitely one of my favorite pitches in this list.. and all of DD so far. Sucha solid, hardcore presentation-- didn't even flinch at their questions. I love her!
As working as an electrician and doing plenty of cable routing in my time, that rod idea doesn't work due to resistance in areas. Most places are not that simple and a more sturdy device is required 👍
For anyone wondering, I just checked - Alpine Brush Wash for 200k was opened in 2012 and dissolved in 2015 - Dang. I wonder if they got their investment back... I'd think not.
First guy was hands down the best negotiator on the show! Made all the right moves at the right time to force consideration and still hold firm on what he felt the true valuation was. Normally, you get the sense that the Dragons could walk away at any second, but I got the feeling he was going to walk away at any second if the Dragons pushed him too far.
In the first one all the other dragons are cringing like how dare he negotiate like that to one of us and hold him to a 200k order. Why the f not? all the dragons talk about is my "experience and connections" he's just trying to lock in those connections into orders.
Sharon Wright, the third one, after the den James caan only offered her a loan, not investment, pity she didn't go for one of the other 3, couldn't see peter, Deborah or theo doing that
Makes me think of the McDonald's Ice Cream machine debacle. They're designed to be unclear and difficult for individual managers and staff to manage so that they always have to call a repair guy to fix it over and over.
@@Jessica7318 It's actually the software that causes McDonald's machines to break, they fucked up a contract with the maintenance company who then deliberately put in a bunch of fake error codes and tuned the diagnostics so that any deviation will result in a shut down, rather than the standard variance allowed by the default configuration supplied with the machine to every other company using them (I think Wendy's was the big one named in the investigation).
The truck wash thing would work without question, I’m surprised Peter doesn’t realise how convenient it would be for haulage companies to use this service. It normally takes more money and time to do it yourself and it’s not easy, most have a cleaning company come around and valet the trucks once twice a month and this would be a great alternative for those companies, stobart and others would go for it, I’m sure they pay more than £16 a trauck and trailer
What made the first guy so desirable?, was his selconfidence or his voice or his way to negotiate. I guess this is the first time I see Peter very challenged and excited, he found his himself younger.
I was really impressed with Sharon. I think she's the real deal. It's always that one small idea for a product that ends up making a fortune. And if she doesn't make a fortune with this product, it will be with something else.
Wow!! The blonde woman was very impressive!! Especially when ge called her out on the product not being purchased more than once per customer. Lmao!! The smile on their faces said it all! Lol i absolutely couldnt help but smile and laugh with em. She is a genius 👏🙌 I think Deborah made a really good offer with her
Temporary Forevers dissolved in 2020, but they recently launched an incredibly successful Kickstarter campaign showing a location of Delaware, so they may have dissolved the UK side and moved to the US.
Third company, Magnamole was effectively scammed. While Duncan followed through as he had promised. James Caan had been revealed to offer "loans" to the businesses rather than investments, and acquire shares at £1 a share. She later had the contract cancelled, and sold 10% of her shares for £100k
Pitch 3 is disappointing. Duncan and James offered a 'loan', not investment for 22.5%. She declined this offer and took a 10% offer for 100k from a private investor.. Well done, Sharon, now worth over £2.5 million.
The best ones are always the simple ones, the cable thing was excellent, not only that it was clear the lady was on the ball before she went on the show with her business, bravo👍
@@justanotherviewer4821 The apps appear to be effectively abandoned though. The whole business model involved creating an app and moving on to the next. He didn't care at all about actually connecting people.
29:07 “put a little sweetness back in the taste”. I like that. Haven’t heard that exact phrase here in the states. We say things more like “meat on the bone”.
WOW THAT FIRST GUY!! What a businessman... he knew how to negotiate. And he was very professional and polite about it. Kinda off topic but he's very very handsome.
Felt bad for the second guy. They kept egging him on for 5%, but you know in his mind it was 20%. Hope it worked out well for him that he didn't get scalped.
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If I were Peter, I wouldn't invest with him. He was rude to Jany Campbell. I hope his business crash.
@Help Line
I think he was trying to be nice by not initially rejecting her outright, as it would be rude, so he just negotiated with Peter.
One time, in the American version of this show Shark Tank, Mr. Wonderful was outright rejected by the business owner and that seemed to greatly upset him, causing all of the Sharks (they’re called Sharks in the American version) to be very offended.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I guess money is ruthless! I could understand that man is from a poor background and desperate to mix with someone like Peter, but I still think if I were Peter, I would reject him, and I hope his business 📈 crashes .
the first guy was awesome, tough negotiator with Peter and best of all completely ignored Jenny
First guy: Im only interested in Peter... Jenny, for that reason Im out (I help you say, you can keep that to yourself)
Did he call her Jane too?
Jenny was in, so he was out
It was abit rude.
I thought he was very tactful with Peter and gained his respect, tough but reasonable, and not at all rude or arrogant, so, no reason for Peter to turn away, and he knows a negotiator like that has the capacity to push through many troubles with ease.
I'm honestly surprised that the first guy was able to walk out of there quite easily, considering he had to carry the weight of his massive balls with him.
might just have been the fact that he was, in the first place, able to carry his own "balls" to the game, the reason for his success... particularly in this segment of perceived luxury/value/quality
I think he get used to carry his balls long time ago
Hahahaha
Temporary Forevers is an awful name. Sounds like a tampon brand lol
LMAO !! IT IS SUCH AN UGLY NAME BUT PETER'S TEAM WILL FIX THAT!! OR IT WILL REALLY BE TEMPORARY LOL!!
That first dude was a great negotiator, he actually came up with a compromise instead of just digging his feet in or giving up.
Yeah but as Peter said he is worried that it's gonna continue...
Do you know how that bag business going? I have never heard of it
@@TheAazah he is out of business now
@@hassanalialqadiri No he isn't. he even added shoes to his products?
He drives nas car now
@@hassanalialqadiri I don't need to. I bought their wallet a few weeks ago.
First guy was absolutely an investible character. He stood before business giants and negotiated with them on equal footing. You don’t come across people like that very often
And the quality of the bags seem amazing too. Hope it can scale without losing on quality.
Thank you
Yhh to negotiate like that and particularly when being presented with situations on the spot and being able to come up with counter offers within a few seconds, shows how experienced he is. Also considering the number of mediocre business owners that appeared on the show, this guy stood out way above anyone else. His negotiation tactics impressed Peter and showed that he is an experienced person.
Well, he also came pretty close to walking away with nothing.
@@originalunoriginal4055 It doesn't show he was experienced in my view. Even 6th graders can negotiate.
The first one was literally nail biting. He was extremely professional with Peter and much respect for both men
He is a blagger putting on a very obvious front. The company is dissolved, Jessops in in voluntary administration. D D D Don't believe the hype
@@chipbuttytime3396 the deal didn’t go thru. But tefor is in business, and looking at their tax records, doing very well too.
@@billybollockhead5628 Just looked it up, tried fining temporary forevers but got lead to tefors and theyre making money.
So wait. What actually happened, did temporary forevers became telfors (because is shorter). Or he ended the deal with Peter?
@@laur.an01 yes thye became telfors and now make variety of different stuff
Richard Farleigh is such a nice mannered man, getting up to shake the hand of his rejector.
He's a true pro
He’s the only one that got booted off the show and was sad and wanted to stay :(
I love that guy definitely one of the nicest dragons he always wanted to invest in almost all the businesses
@@freezasama5802 yeah, they let a real one go. ✌🏼
@@Prizino why did he get booted off,,?
Lmfao the one time jenny offers , she redacts her offer when she got ignored 😂😂😂
To be fair he wasn’t entertaining her offer at all.
this is why so few women are successful entrepreneurs. they get personal and emotional, then complain about it.
@@simonlloyd7557 ah, the daily dose of sexism
@@jf1737 daily dose of truth.
@@AlchemistOfHecate sure, cause you alone are the only holder of the truth, and how convenient for the truth to be sexism haha
Jenny's thinking "Thank f*ck he was more interested in Peter.... I almost had to agree a deal!"
Truck wash: Peter compares to cars. Gets told it is not comparable. Still compares to cars
crucial part of being a Dragon is not too readily or entirely believing everything that you are told..
@@ObeseGorilla229 😂😂😂
@@ObeseGorilla229 dead 😂😂😂😂😂
He has obviously not been to a motorway services and seen the ques for the lorry wash.. alot more business in lorry washing than car washing. Like to see him washing a lorry on his drive with a bucket and a sponge. . And yes I'm a lorry driver .
@@animaltvi9515 Yeah, he was told why lorries need washing regularly and how the convenient window appears for that to be done, plus the low charge, and yet falls back on his disproven argument. That was surprising, because he`s usually pretty sound.
Table full of bags, man walks in with a bag on his back.
Touker: 🤨 must be a bag
😂😂not an office for sure
Hahaha
Deduction Watson 😆
Dragon: I'm out
Me: What? What happened?
Narrator: A dragon just went out.
Me: Ooh. I see.
Richard didn't get the credit he deserved as a Dragon, he's incredibly astute. He stood up to a couple of the Dragons on one episode for which they didn't like. I feel he was clearly pushed from the show.
Do you know which episode please?
I miss him! Great guy!
Yeah he is underrated, I wish they brought him back.
The conspiracy theory is that he was dropped in favour of bringing in James Caan. :\
@@aloenottingham6163 I can't remember but will let you know once I find it
I really like that Richard Farleigh shook hands with the guy who turned him down. He's such a class act, can't imagine any of the other Dragons doing that. I don't think the programme been the same since he left.
So true, he's an Aussie LEGEND!!!
Oooooh 1 hour lunch today.
James & Duncan going to the back of the room was classic!
Wasn't too classic when James ruined her,she should have went with Deborah
@@superblanch15 Just googled it. That was sad to hear. She worked her ass off and greedy counts try to take advantage of her.
@@sambeg2 Incredible .
She wrote a book about this : " Mother of invention " , Sharon Wright .
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@@superblanch15 a1
Miss having Farley on the show, perhaps not the richest Dragon in the Den but definitely a very bright mind with great charisma.
He was a great dragon. Great hair too. He was always very insightful, that always stood out.
Floating suit.
He wasn't always the nicest but he was always fair
He has an uncanny striking resemblance to SCOTT the lover of Jeremy Thorpe ? Yes ; he appears to be a thoroughly decent man with good striking looks !
He's worth £80m. Probably one of the wealthiest dragons to have appeared on the programme.
The first dude smashed it he got 90k investment along with a 200k order like he completely held peter to that comment he made woow FairPlay to him
And the deal never happened ..
@@billybollockhead5628 and now he’s a millionaire
@@freddieparrydrums source
What do you mean?@@billybollockhead5628
@@billybollockhead5628at do you mean the deal never happened
That first guys negotiation was very smart. He basically made Peter commit to securing the contract that would increase the companies value such that Peter would drop his percent down to 25. Basically Peter had to do the work to be ‘rewarded’ by dropping his own percentage down.
deal fell through unfortunately.
@@tc98826good the guy was a arrogant tw@
"Mr Ambassador, with these 4 episodes of Dragon's Den you're really spoling us!"
Not really these are all reruns
Mythical Moose well there are the new episodes on Iplayer already great start at episode one we had 3 investments from 3 different dragons it's fantastic
@@freezasama5802 this video is focused on negotiations so ofc there is investments. This is a compilations from different episodes. This isnt one episode, dont you see the dragons are younger first? Set is different.
Are u that dumb to not notice and think its one episode?
@@freezasama5802 and the dragons are different too, what are u smoking to think this is one episode.
Just Smoke I'm not talking about this video I'm talking about the episode of the new season on Iplayer this is just 4 different investments from different episodes in the new series we get 3 investments in that single episode
James Caan completely ripped off Sharon (Magnamole). He only offered a loan (and paid her barely any of it) and charged her a fee for support, which crippled her finances. She had a breakdown, broke off the contract, but eventually restarted the business and is doing ok now.
Not quite,she never went through with it and when Duncan found out he offered her investment for equity, how it was supposed to be. James Caan was a total snake,trying to rip her off like that
He tried to buy a child for his brother from a poor Pakistani family, what kind of person would even consider doing that.. @@davidmellish3295
The dragons all work together acting like they are competing with each other when they are just fooling the entrepreneurs to give them more equity in their company
Bloody brilliant. Peter loves it when someone has the cahones to bargain hard with him.
Hahahahah
Cojones btw. I you ment tjat
@@FCule 😜
“ you need to see a bit more flirting Peter’ 😂
Just googled Magna Mole only to read a Daily Mail article outlining the 80k "equity" agreement for 22.5% was in fact a "loan". It also states Sharon was charged a monthly "advisory fee" and tipped into using contractor who charged more for their services. She should have hired a lawyer from the start of dealing with the Dragons and maybe they would have not ripped her off.
Her biggest mistake was choosing James Caan, that man is a crook. Had she chosen someone like Debra she would have had a much better experience.
@@Liam.2000 Or Theo! Who was clearly impressed with her and seems like a nice mannered person who would be more pleasant to work with.
The last guy would have convinced the peter pair to take 18% for the 80k capital. Feels like he failed the homestretch negotiations
I read somewhere, from a person on the programme, that Debra’s the most helpful and trustworthy dragon.
They are all sharks not dragons and anyone going in there thinking any different is naive - search and see how many of the “winners” companies have been dissolved after a couple of years
I love to watch negotiations taking place because there is something so satisfying and respectful in it. The first one with Peter Jones was amazing how they were bouncing the moneyball like tennis with business and I can tell that everybody in that room enjoyed it with one way or another.
Sharon ended up suing James Caan for defamation because he lied about the money, offered no expert help, and made her reduce her salary from £50k to £12k. She managed to end her contract with them but spent 3 weeks in hospital for a nervous breakdown. I remember reading about it not long ago 😟
Isn’t a defamation suit only raised for those who ruin someone’s reputation. I don’t understand what that has to do with reputation
Holy shizzle
@@GlowingAsteroid that's because this is completely heresay and they have no source listed for a reason. It would be a libel suit not defamation. And I can find no actual confirmation of the OPs comment.
@@dougloremaster7413 Sharon wrote a book about it.
They offered her the money as a loan the sneaky bast*ds
It’s a shame magnamole was fucked over by Caan, but despite this and many years of hard work I’m so so glad she is back on top and is a successful business woman without help for Caan or any other dragons help!
Its a shame how Sharon was absolutely screwed by this show. She came wanting relief and guidance and left with a path that took years from her life, no doubt.
37:03 absolutely love duncan smiling when the entrepreneur says she disagrees with Peter
The satchel salesmen: "Would you agree?"
Even though Peter Jones didn't fall for it, there's a lot of psychology from his apparent sales background.
That caught me too, very deliberate choice of words. “Wouldn’t you agree’ is very different from ‘don’t you think”
Crafty guy, i didn't even notice
Never seen the Dragons smirk at each other and shake hands, Sharon was amazing and seeing the Dragons go to the back of the room was amazing 🤣
Caan put her in hospital through stress he near enough scammed the business from her
Duncan and James at the wall was hilarious.
The first is very calm and a smart mover, he perfectly knows how to negotiate and impress the dragons.
I like Alex; he's a hustler! Asks a lot of questions (something that most people don't do) and a tough negotiator!
And a really attractive voice ngl
And super cute
"I hope they're not going to be too tough with me on the valuation."
*Reads Title* Hahahahaha
Sharon Wright is definitely one of my favorite pitches in this list.. and all of DD so far. Sucha solid, hardcore presentation-- didn't even flinch at their questions. I love her!
fr and she’s so ambitious, admirable
It's sad how the deal didn't happen later on.....she sued James for messin up her business too I believe
@@llamanodrama5432 woah, really??
@@llamanodrama5432 seriously??
There’s a massive story to this. It really damaged her mentally and financially.
27:04 Theo Paphitis reaction to the counter offer and then 27:08 the smiles exchange between Richard Farley and Duncan Bannatyne. Epic stuff
sometimes they do edit/cut in expressions from other earlier and later moments
How is it possible that Jenny is out, even though she was actually in for once???
It's part of her thing she is always out no matter what's even if it's a good business she is out 😂
She did the hokey cokey?
Jenny was born out.
I've been binging these clips for days and I've never seen her seal a deal lol
The program with Sharon and Magnamole was recorded in April 2009. She had won an award for best product two years earlier.
"you need to see a bit more flirting Peter" Deborah 😂
Sharon's pitch feels like something you experience in dream land. Amazing.
Indeed, they were all so happy about this woman and the product.
She was scammed by James, she had mental breakdown because of him, poor her!!
@@yassin4173 what happened?
@@miggywiggy There's an article on This Is Money detailing her experience, she was ripped off by the Dragons.
@@davidmunir1080Sharon Wright, James promised her the money in a loan but gave her no money, no help and made HER pay HIM
Jenny used to be in the ATM/Cashpoint business. I bet she owned the ones that charge you £1.50 to take your own money out.
As working as an electrician and doing plenty of cable routing in my time, that rod idea doesn't work due to resistance in areas. Most places are not that simple and a more sturdy device is required 👍
Maybe she was already thinking ahead to what Peter Jones said of "sometimes you want it to break" 😂
also, nails and screws would be an issue, right?
For anyone wondering, I just checked - Alpine Brush Wash for 200k was opened in 2012 and dissolved in 2015 - Dang. I wonder if they got their investment back... I'd think not.
Really liked the magnanimous attitude of the dragons who failed to clinch the deal. “Jealous” but with tongue in cheek.and very good to see.
Richard Farley was a great Dragon - I wish they kept him :(
This was a great watch…
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, thank you!
This guy has the intestinal fortitude to stick it out with Peter and WIN his point ! !
How awesome is it to see people like Sharon, so well prepared and with a great business.
Farley is a class act.
#2 Bought his shares back after the show.
"... I feel that to relinquish 40% of an immerging strong business format would be difficult to swallow."
This is exactly what I needed
First guy was hands down the best negotiator on the show! Made all the right moves at the right time to force consideration and still hold firm on what he felt the true valuation was. Normally, you get the sense that the Dragons could walk away at any second, but I got the feeling he was going to walk away at any second if the Dragons pushed him too far.
In the first one all the other dragons are cringing like how dare he negotiate like that to one of us and hold him to a 200k order. Why the f not? all the dragons talk about is my "experience and connections" he's just trying to lock in those connections into orders.
Ikr, but it's an entertainment programme, the dragons don't need these investments to make money,they just want the best deal for themselves
The first guy was really good at his game. And I see Peter saw that.
Always refreshing to see two competent people interacting.
What a negotiation; Peter and Alex!!
Peter should have walked away, asking for a salary was cheeky.
That first one was brilliant to watch. The guy had everyone's respect, even Jenny's (until he ignored her lol).
Well, Jenny brought it on herself by ignoring 99% of offers in the past lmao
Sharon is amazing!
"Oh you dirty lil gazumper" -DB
😂
Sheesh, 1 hour episode? Way too long for lunch, I’ll keep this episode for Xmas day 👍
Sharon Wright, the third one, after the den James caan only offered her a loan, not investment, pity she didn't go for one of the other 3, couldn't see peter, Deborah or theo doing that
Same!
"You kind of almost want your product to break occasionally" - Peter Jones
Peter should work for Apple qc control.
very true and smart
@@gangatalishis he was part of thunderbolt devlopment team or something like that.
Makes me think of the McDonald's Ice Cream machine debacle. They're designed to be unclear and difficult for individual managers and staff to manage so that they always have to call a repair guy to fix it over and over.
@@Jessica7318 It's actually the software that causes McDonald's machines to break, they fucked up a contract with the maintenance company who then deliberately put in a bunch of fake error codes and tuned the diagnostics so that any deviation will result in a shut down, rather than the standard variance allowed by the default configuration supplied with the machine to every other company using them (I think Wendy's was the big one named in the investigation).
The truck wash thing would work without question, I’m surprised Peter doesn’t realise how convenient it would be for haulage companies to use this service.
It normally takes more money and time to do it yourself and it’s not easy, most have a cleaning company come around and valet the trucks once twice a month and this would be a great alternative for those companies, stobart and others would go for it, I’m sure they pay more than £16 a trauck and trailer
Be double or treble the price now for a contracted wash
Is Sharon the only person who has gone into the Den and said "I have a preferred dragon" and had everyone laugh and be like "ill try it anyway"
The first negotiations had me sitting on the edge of my seat man lol 🤣🤣 now thats good tv
What made the first guy so desirable?, was his selconfidence or his voice or his way to negotiate. I guess this is the first time I see Peter very challenged and excited, he found his himself younger.
Yes, i think all 3 factors.. confidence, accent (eastern european because his name is Romanian) and that he was a tough negociator.
I've watched this show for the nigh on 20yrs it's been on and never have I seen a negotiation like that 1st one..
Peter loved it
I was really impressed with Sharon. I think she's the real deal. It's always that one small idea for a product that ends up making a fortune. And if she doesn't make a fortune with this product, it will be with something else.
Peter scored a knockout victory when he dropped that firestarter line😎🔥
As joe rogan once said “5% is everything”
Wow!! The blonde woman was very impressive!! Especially when ge called her out on the product not being purchased more than once per customer. Lmao!! The smile on their faces said it all! Lol i absolutely couldnt help but smile and laugh with em. She is a genius 👏🙌 I think Deborah made a really good offer with her
When the dragons need to talk to the wall
Temporary Forevers dissolved in 2020, but they recently launched an incredibly successful Kickstarter campaign showing a location of Delaware, so they may have dissolved the UK side and moved to the US.
Second company, Alpine Cleaning Services turned down the money and later merged with a competitor.
Third company, Magnamole was effectively scammed. While Duncan followed through as he had promised. James Caan had been revealed to offer "loans" to the businesses rather than investments, and acquire shares at £1 a share. She later had the contract cancelled, and sold 10% of her shares for £100k
@@danriaz9678 All investments come with a NDA, rules for PR and ring fenced loans.
Good research 🕵️♀️
@@danriaz9678 who scammed who? She was scammed or the dragons were scammed? Didn’t get it? How is her company going now?
Duncan calling Deborah a 'dirty little gazumper' 😂
Pitch 3 is disappointing. Duncan and James offered a 'loan', not investment for 22.5%. She declined this offer and took a 10% offer for 100k from a private investor.. Well done, Sharon, now worth over £2.5 million.
3rd one literally came out with a higher valuation than she came in asking for which is rare
I am learning from the Dragon's Den, awesome negotions....
I thought I was in for a treat today until I realised 3 of the 4 pitches have been on RUclips for centuries
The best ones are always the simple ones, the cable thing was excellent, not only that it was clear the lady was on the ball before she went on the show with her business, bravo👍
Excellent negotiations between Peter and the "leather man", That was truly great to watch.
2021:
Temprorary Forevers LTD - Dissolved
Alpine Cleaning - Dissolved
Magnamole, part of Talpa Product Ltd. - Dissolved
M14 industried - Dissolved
M14 still seems to be going although may be a different company operating it.
@@justanotherviewer4821 The apps appear to be effectively abandoned though. The whole business model involved creating an app and moving on to the next. He didn't care at all about actually connecting people.
"You dirty little gazumpa" 😂.. I love the business model of the truck wash - mm mm lovin that recurring revenue
The last guys was a no brainer, moonpig man and Peter Jones.
Always pivot to non financial terms is a great way to negotiate a deadlock. The order value was free for Peter but got it over the line.
the third one where they go to the back of the room, the look of pure mischief on Duncan's face is golden
Peter a man who has never been on a worksite "they'll only buy it once"
Jenny: I'm going to make you an offer
First guy: and for that reason, I'm out
Sharon's session was exceptional. It made my day 😊.
Same. She was fantastic!
She's a millionare chilling somewhere now I bet
@@D-A-A- not at all company dissolved in 2013 and she had a nervous breakdown
@@Jake-oo5ek really so she lost everything and didn't make a thing on this?
@@D-A-A- not sure if she made money or not mate but the company didn’t do nothing like it was meant too
29:07 “put a little sweetness back in the taste”.
I like that. Haven’t heard that exact phrase here in the states. We say things more like “meat on the bone”.
Wow, clearly favoring the 2 dragons at 40%, Farley and Duncan at 35%, I would have bowed out.
Not sure how that pitch belongs on a list of toughest negotiations! He ended up accepting the first offer that Theo and Deborah put out.
The first guy needs to be studied! Brilliant and not easy to get a praise from Peter like that 👍
The Sharon episode was amazing 👏
James and Duncan did her over big time. Its on the internet
@@jakenevin25 wow really? Where can I find it?
WOW THAT FIRST GUY!! What a businessman... he knew how to negotiate. And he was very professional and polite about it.
Kinda off topic but he's very very handsome.
Duncan called Debra a gazumper when it was his idea lol.
Dirty little gazumper! haha
First guy had me smiling,, he gave them a very hard time😂😂😂😂😂
Felt bad for the second guy. They kept egging him on for 5%, but you know in his mind it was 20%. Hope it worked out well for him that he didn't get scalped.
he actually later changed his mind and didn't do the deal. ended up merging with another giant
37:02
Easily my favourite part, "that told you", lol!
I cant imagine how happy sharon was, having the dragons fight with each other for her company lmao
I was at the edge of my seat!!! Learned a lot!
Love how the camera man zoomS in on Jenny’s bling bling but he forgot to zoom Jenny OUT