Quality control across all manufactures post covid is a disgrace, and the prices went up 40% … I think FINALLY people are figuring it out, as a middle class person, it’s not worth being poor over these vehicles
What are you even on about? Where’s all the poor quality control on this Tahoe/Suburban? People who buy them aren’t poor. If you’re poor after buying anything that means you couldn’t afford it way before you arrived to the dealership.
@@G-Rated most people who have a little bit of money or are in the middle to upper class would not financially benefit from buying one of these stupid ridiculously priced vehicles and I’m talking about in the 50 to 80 K range. It’s just stupid to buy something so expensive that eventually depreciates to nothing. What makes most sense is buying a reliable used vehicle like a 2020 Toyota Sequoia or has been taken care of and not support these companies that are trying to rip everybody off.
Here’s a little secret if you invested that 60 K and a mutual fund rather than a vehicle that’s 60 K would probably be worth upwards of 120 K in the span. It took you to pay off that car…
@@Wellh0wrya You say buy a Toyota Sequoia and not support the company’s trying to rip people off? I knew it would come out that you’re just a Japanese apologist and you just lost all credibility. Toyota is infamous for their price gouging and on old tech they’ve been developing for decades. Take their hybrid tech for instance which all equipped models are usually marked up while the rest of the cars are pretty underwhelming especially compared to something like a 2025 Tahoe. I already knew you were a Japanese fanboy from the tone in your comment. Y’all love to talk about “quality control” but y’Ll still haven’t explained why the brand new Tundra’s cab needs to be removed from the bed to address their problems. Or why their new turbocharged V6 engines are failing. Can you explain Tundras being delivered with backwards badges?? Let’s GET REAL here.
@@Wellh0wrya Apparently you’re new around here. Tahoe and Yukons aren’t cheap budget friendly models, that’s why the Acadia and Traverse exist. The Tahoe and Yukon are premium and luxury SUVs, not designed so that everyone in America working minimum wage jobs can afford a High Country. It’s a shame you have to explain this to grown men & women around these parts of RUclips.
@@msokes9 I totally understand that! There’s just certain conditions where it’s super foggy or when there’s high winds in the winter causing snow fog that having those lights close to the ground to are beneficial to see the road more easily, even with OEM LED headlights. The other 99% of days I’m good to live without them.
I find that fog lights are extremely important in a tall vehicle. I have a 2020 Silverado trail boss. And it came from the factory without fog lights. I've driven in dark, rainy back roads, and without those fog lights, it's extremely hard to see when it's downpouring at night. I love the new led fog lights that I put onto my truck but still If you get any model above a base model, all vehicles should have fog lights as a standard feature
I love that the American market still supports these big suvs. The suburban, Tahoe, expedition and other similar models are all fricken awesome vehicles. I wish Australia had left hand drive and was built with larger vehicles in mind. You can drive this size vehicle here but it's always tricky getting a park places.
Us American's dont even want these big SUVs but Ford, GM and Dodge are pushing them onto us. The US consumers have been very vocal that we want cheap, smaller vehicles but what do we get? The cheap, smaller vehicles are discontinued and here we are with the larger vehicles that get more and more expensive.
@@joshualewis393 You sound like a MAGAt. Please explain how GM, Ford, and Dodge are pushing large SUVs to American consumers but Toyota and Nissan who just redesigned their offerings after discontinuing sedans _aren’t_ doing the same exact thing? Especially when Chevrolet will happily sell your cheap arse a base model Trax. Go outside and grip some grass.
@@davelindgren5245 right, let’s just ignore all the visible and non-visible upgrades & pretend that a 2025 base model Tahoe isn’t just as nice as a mid trim Ford Expedition, Toyota Sequoia, or Nissan Armada and for thousands less. I promise I’m not the fanboy I may appear to be today, but some of y’all’s comments here are ridiculously silly if I must say so. Lol
@@G-Rated I agree, they are nicer. For the most part, they made some minor styling changes and put some nice screeens in them. Are they 7 - 10% nicer, no. Are they passing on the cost of inflation that our government has created - yes. Have they passed on the gigantic raises that the workers got because the CEO and top people are raking in huge money from their stock options through stock buy backs - yes Has the average American worker received a 7 - 10% raise - no Is it nicer than the Ford Expedition when Ford has also passed on the cost I mentioed above - yes With out zero percent financing can the average worker buy the Tahoe or the Expdition without going into serious debt - no Do I give a shit that you think my comment is ridculous - No Do I think you can stick your opinion on my comment where the sun doesn't shine - yes
@@davelindgren5245 It sounds like you’re upset that an American automaker is so successful and doing so well that they’re able to be paid well and also share that success with their workers via pay increases. Are you CHEAP and wrong about the value of the Tahoe/Suburban? Yes. Does Chevrolet give a sh!t that you think their flagship Tahoe is too expensive for the “average Joe”? No. That’s why the Trax and Equinox exists. 🤷🏽♂️
I love my 21 Suburban LS with just the basics. Many of my passengers are surprised how much luxury I got in a base model, even my friend with an Escalade. Love my 26 mpg while hauling 5-8 to Florida from Indiana.
24" wheels is ridiculous. I also really dislike having so many features on the touchscreen instead of physical buttons. Touchscreens are a massive distraction for drivers and a safety hazard.
Not to mention a physical button will last for 20 years or more. You're going to start having intermittent issues with a touchscreen within 5 years even on something like a toyota.
@@npsit1 I’m confused on how clear & bright touchscreens are a distraction but searching for a physical button somewhere on the dash is _not_ a distraction. Digital buttons are illuminated, don’t fade overtime, and if they aren’t conveniently in one position all of the time you can put them in a spot that’s most comfortable for you. An actual safety hazard are physical buttons in a group that have lost their faces over the years and you can no longer tell what they operate. or small physical buttons that take your eyes out of the line of sight of the road as the displays are usually at the top of the dash.
@@fewworddotrick that’s because Toyota’s technology is far behind that of *gm’s* and there’s no comparison. Toyota just received touchscreens back again in 2020. These companies aren’t on the same level as far as tech goes and you know it. Although everyone has pretty much followed *gm* in the investment of their own native built in UX systems by going to Google based systems, they don’t all use the same developers nor are they executed the same. I just think ppl around here just really struggle with giving *gm* _their_ credit for what they’ve tackled and got right.
Ah yes the company that still today has a bunch of hybrids on the road that are 25 years old and getting 45 mpg on the *original* battery and transmission fluid is very behind in technology. If being ahead in technology means covering a dash in iPads and using 24" rubber band tires that will cost $2k to replace every 30k miles, I guess I don't want it.
The interior space is definitely better than the current model. I appreciate the fact that they kept physical controls for controlling temperature and AC as well as the headlights and 4WD systems unlike some other vehicles, and whatever climate controls are on the touchscreen, they’re always front and center instead of having to dig through menus to get them, which I greatly appreciate The exterior has also been updated quite nicely. It’s about time the Suburban got full LED lighting in the rear. That’s been a minor nitpick of mine since this generation came out, so I’m pleased that’s been addressed. Back to the interior, I think the interior updates were most important to me. They’ve pretty much addressed most of the nitpicks I’ve had with the current interior while still retaining its max cargo volume and passenger accommodations as well as its towing and hauling ability expected out of a large body-on-frame SUV. And for the High Country trim specifically, I know that 22 inch wheels come standard, but are the 22 inch sterling sliver painted wheels returning on the High Country for 2025? I’ve seen them on prototype vehicles for this refresh, but I’ve never seen any official images of the refreshed Suburban High Country with those wheels. I’d like to know if that wheel design is returning to this trim level for this model year.
We have a 24 suburban rst. Best family hauler on the market. Seemingly unlimited cargo space. Fuel mileage avg 10 L/100. Mostly highway. Very comfy drive.
From primarily a Ford guy, I’ve always been a big fan of the Tahoe/suburban. I think GM does a better job in the full size category compared to the expedition. The new one looks good
I love that these are supposed to be family haulers yet they are priced so far out of the reach of the majority of families who could use one. They need to start making more simple vehicles with less garbage in them at a lower cost that more Americans can afford while raising a family. Granted no one needs a brand new vehicle, brand new vehicles are a status symbol they are for the wealthy and stupid. I’ll stick to my early 2000’s GM’s when they were much more reliable and more simple.
More baseless claims about reliability despite the fact they’ve kept their tried and true powertrains unlike the competition. Now y’all are complaining that Chevrolet updated their technology too much after just recently complaining these truck’s interiors were starting to feel dated. They literally can’t win for losing with some of you and it’s hilarious. Y’all will continue to move the goalposts and find SOMETHING to complain about which has already been proven. Y’all literally complain about the pricing while simultaneously complain that they’re too nice and too advanced in technology and features/comfort. It’s mind blowing.
@@G-Rated these things aren't reliable at all. Nor is any of the competition. The only people that omcplaijg about their interiors being outdated are the people that work 40 hours a week and make 120k a year and have way too much money to blow on a new chevy every 5 years after theirs "is old"
I've got to be honest. I hate independent suspension in the rear. I especially don't like the idea of needing air shocks to get any ground clearance. I'm sure it rides incredible and provides more space inside. But, this is a step too close to making the Suburban a minivan. Bring back the 2500 Suburban with straight axles, no cylinder deactivation, super charge it, give it lockers, front & back. Give people what they want, and pay no mind to the government. The government works for us anyway. Not the other way around. I think people have forgotten about that. It would be different if the independent suspension was big and beefy with lots of clearance. I crawled under a Suburban recently and was unimpressed by the suspension set-up.
I really don’t think there’s enough of a market for something like that, at least at the price that an OEM would need to command to make such a product profitable.
@ALMX5DP Unfortunately, you're probably right. It's unfortunate. The old suburban's from the 80s were really cool. The biggest problem with them was that they were very underpowered. Other than that, they were simple to work on and pretty durable. It's just too bad that they can't go with a simpler design because if it's not broken, why fix it.
@@billp5424 maybe stop driving right into large holes in the roadway, especially while driving a heavier vehicle with larger wheels? It’s common sense honestly. It’s not just bad for the tires and rims, making a habit of driving into large potholes isn’t good for your suspension system either. Might as well drive into the median or over a speed bump going 50 mph. 🙄
Idk about beautiful, larger-scale traverse labeled suburban not my idea of beautiful. Honestly it's the C-shape DRL and almost fog light worthy headlights
What the manufacturers don’t tell you is that part of the increase in price is for the wage increases for their employees. Remember they just had union contracts with pay increases.
@texillini1 pay increases for employees? It much rather the bulk the price increase go to factory workers pay than toward executives bonuses and stock options?
@ Whether one likes it or not, federal law requires corporations to try make a profit for the shareholders. It’s the shareholders that really run the company. What they say goes. The board of directors (BOD) has to answer to the shareholders: the CEO has to answer to the BID, and so on down the chain it goes the bottom man. Shareholders don’t give a darn “how” things are done, all they care about is that they get their return on investment. Shareholders are willing to give out all those perks to the executives in order to get their money. Like it or not, employees are no different than the machines or equipment used in a particular industry. It’s just a means to the end. I’m a locomotive engineer. I’m no different than the locomotive I run or the cars I pull. We both are just a means to the end. A maximum profit for the company which relates to maximum return for the investors. American workers pension funds and 401(k)’s are invested in these companies. While the worker may want his money up front in the form of higher wages and benefits, when the companies make policies (that the worker disagrees with) the bean counters are doing what the shareholders want them to do….. maximize the share price which in the end helps the worker’s portfolio.
Hey Andrey, we need the Ike Gauntlet and The Toaster for both 6.2 and 3.0 liter!! Then we will see if General Menace is any better in their new lineup!!! Great Videos Thank You 🙏
I would love to see Andre drive at 15 miles an hour over a very large. Pothole on camera and then have another camera that's slow motion. Watch the tire hitting the pothole and then compared that test too 18 inch rim that has more rubber on it. I think it would be very interesting to see the contrast between the 2 tires. And I think it would be a much more thorough test, because out here in Massachusetts, and on the East Coast as a whole, our roads are absolutely terrible. Also, Michigan has some pretty rough roads too. Especially detroit and driving over potholes is normal for us, so we need a vehicle that we can have full confidence in that can handle a harsh bump and not get damaged
I'm not biased towards a specific brand but the Tahoe would be an easy target for the Ford Expedition, I'd go with the Ford, because GM didn't put enough effort in. It looks very old and traditional from the outside and from the inside as well, the difference between the two vehicles is like the difference between a student and a professor.
The real question is, has GM improved their 3rd row seating compared to the 1st 4-ish generations? For years: no foot space, 2nd row seats that don't adjust fore and aft, low seat/high floor, etc...
The 3rd row on suburban is amazing. Ever since they ditched that solid rear axle for an independent rear suspension, 3rd is excellent in Tahoe and Suburban. Suburban is one of the only 3 mainstream SUVs that can match a minivan in terms of cargo and people hauling ability.
Love our 2021 Tahoe Z71 (2nd Gen. 2021 built from mid-June '21 onward) ... it's awesome! (BTW, don't buy a 1st Gen. 2021, made before June 2021, which has the Auto Start/Stop feature ... lots of engine problems, ... I know I had one for four months). But I think I have to upgrade to the 2025 Tahoe maybe the RST trim this time around but no 24's, the 22's will suffice although I enjoyed the 20's on the Z71 to accidently roll over curbs on tight turns at times (it's a big vehicle) without damaging the rims.
Just found your page. Impressed with your presentation skills and dissemination of relevant info. Most others mean well, yet waste too much time sharing unimportant info that has become homogeneous from one evaluator to another. Thanks! Keep up the good work! 👍
I don't like the seat configuration. They should offer just 5 seats as well. I have to pay for things I don't need, that weight more and take space. And I would like to have the option to get 17 wheels on the Z71
I had seen somebody talk about the super cruise and they complained that it seemed to bounce from side to side in a lane like bumper bowling. Is that the case or were they being dramatic?
People gonna be hurting when they see the price tag on a 24" tire and then hurting again when every shop in America scratches the wheels up because they're so hard to mount
@@gilly3531I have 18’s on my 2500 crew cab which is bigger than one of these. I’d rather have a proper tire available from many different manufacturers at a decent price than gangster looking wheels.
@@9663mu not sure I understand. I said this had good power, plus it is updated in many areas that people would find beneficial over something from the 1950’s…
The biggest problem with the screen integration is that I find it immensely distracting when driving on the freeway at night. It's particularly bad when trying to steer into a moderate to tight right hand bend.
Those 24 inch wheels on that Suburban look stupid. Definitely would much rather have more side wall. Other than that I think that 3.0L diesel is the real gem in these vehicles. That engine is probably going to cause Ford and Ram to rethink a few things.
@@TFLtruck When will TFL do a Super Ike test with the diesel? My camper is 7,000 lbs and I don't think the diesel will handle it as well as my 3.5 Ecoboost.
like the Z71 tahoe. just wish it was more utilitarian ..than a 3 row luxury family school bus . needs high payload and towing and lot of us off roaders, car campers, overlanders have no need want or will ever use a 3rd row like a bench seat up front so if I build our a kit still have a 3 passenger wagon but most dealers will opt out the Z71 with every luxury opt
Problem is when it’s starting at 55-60k, people demand some luxury and features and not a complete utilitarian car. The Land Cruiser went that route of being utilitarian and all I see is people complaining about it starting at 60k and having clutch seats and manual seats standard. People who want utilitarian assume cheap too, and automakers won’t deliver the latter.
Tahoe and Suburban cost much as what an Escalante used to cost severely years ago. In five years, they might cost what an Escalante cost now. Oh well, it doesn't stop people from buying.
I would never purchase a Duramax 3 L diesel, knowing that the dumbass engineers put the oil pump and its belt in the rear of the engine, between the engine and transmission. Meaning, when you need to replace that belt, the entire transmission has to come out of the vehicle costing several thousand dollars to replace a $40 belt. If GM changed that belt to a gear or a chain, then I, as well as many other people, would get that Duramax 3L diesel in one of their truck trucks
Fast Lane Truck has NOT realized that these cars are to expensive. No one wants to pay the price for these anymore. I think you guys need to start talking about more sub 30,000 dollar cars that people CAN afford. I believe these still have those engine issues.
They need to change the suburban Tahoe and Yukon lineup GM needs to make these a better looking vehicle because they have looked like this for years small changes that don’t equal a lot in the looks department of the exterior
But has GM figured out how to fix the problems with V8 engines having lifters and camshafts fail? I know several folks who had trucks who suffered these failures out of warrantee.
Why did GM reduce the size the of the fuel tanks? They used to be 26 gallon for Tahoe/Yukon and 31 gallon for the longer wheel base. People always want to focus so much on towing numbers. Look, they do their research on their customers and MOST people will never tow even what the current max capability is. Ford loves to claim their 1/2 ton chassis can tow 12,000+ lbs and that’s down right dangerous. I don’t think GM needs to adjust anything with their towing capability.
I love the work that’s done here especially from Tommy and Andre but I MUST say this…in TFL comments are always weirdos trying their absolute best to fear monger folks into buying a underwhelming and cheaply built Japanese competitor or they’re just in the comments complaining that they can’t afford the *gm* product as if Toyota has the best pricing in the marketplace, offer superior trucks and undercut their competitors. These folks struggle to find faults with these refreshed Suburban/Tahoe models so they’ll complain about the price and try convincing you it doesn’t make sense to buy them before suggesting you to go to a Toyota dealership and be price gouged for a Sequoia with a copy/paste Tundra pickup truck’s interior, very little space in third row, virtually no cargo space behind the third row, a V6 engine with major issues, and a lazy execution in tech and overall engineering. You can’t make this stuff up. Bravo, *gm!* Y’all addressed a lot of the gripes I had with the Tahoe Suburban. I knew they would eventually get even better just didn’t expect it to be this soon.
Ive owned 5 Tahoes and Yukons, No way these are worth the price they are asking. Actually every truck and SUV is WAY overpriced. Ive owned over 45 different vehicles.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Nice! I had 2 crotch rockets, Im sure those are overpriced too. Cant believe people are paying these prices. Insanity or they just wanna look rich, or both.
Its ok I guess but, they charging a lot for a SUV & it doesn't even have massage chairs n ambient lighting also the Tahoe doesn't come with a 6V Suburban has the 6V & 8V Gas tank 🤔 seems a little off but they look nice.
I just want a simple truck with a strong engine and no fancy electronics. Hand crank window and manual transmission. The days of manly trucks are gone.
This was a very informative video however every single time Andre and Roman review a Ford product they will whine and moan at the slightest modest increase on prices year on year in this video Andre was happy about a whopping 5k+ average increase across the entire range. Not good enough guys. TFL is still my favourite review channel but sometimes the appearance of bias is evident this is not so good. :)
*gm’s* quality and reliability can no longer be compared to that of Ford’s who is abysmal at best. Roman definitely has a bias against *gm* and always nitpicks and tries to rag on their products especially when compared to a Ford. The difference is *gm* justifies their price increases. You can glance at a refreshed Tahoe and be able to tell where the extra money went. Then you drive them and even the cheapest trims feel better on the road than some BOF Lexus products. Ford is chasing *gm* at this point in the game and there’s no competition in my humble opinion. 🤷🏽♂️
@@G-Rated Mate you certainly are not serious. The quality of Ford has come on leaps and bounds and to say GM is more reliable is laughing in the face of facts. It depends on the matrix which is used to judge reliability both have some issues so it is give here and take there however innovations in where Ford excels and of course GM always copy Ford ie pro power onboard. Ford has NEVER had to rely on a handout, GM took Government bail out and so Ford all the way.... Mustang worldreknowned, F-150 globally rated, Ranger has been kicking butts all over long before arrival back here, Ford HB the most successful F1 power. Ford GT outsold and is more valuable than 5 Corvettes... GM only beat Ford at rebadging other makers cars ask those who drive Buicks and Chevy Spark, Chevy SS, Chevy Captiva and Trailblazer... Exit stage left mate ...
@@saddist1Gtown you bring up GM’s 2008 bailout in 2024 then you lose all credibility by default. What are we even talking about here? You Ford fans are clearly triggered right now at the sight of any new *gm* products. None of what you said is actually true. Chevrolet excels Ford is both build quality and both short/long term reliability. Not sure where you’re getting _your_ info.
@@G-Rated Mate you keep embarrassing yourself. I am no Ford fan but a motoring enthusiiast. I owned only a 1970 Mach-1 and a Saphire Cosworth and a 2007 Fiesta ST. I owned a Honda Integra Type-R a Mercedes 190E Brabus and Audi A4 Triumph spitfire Opel Manta GTE, BMW E46, Mazda 6 Toyota Rav-4 Renault Laguna Renault Scenic, Pegeot 205 1.9 GT. Citroen AX GT, These are cars I've owned in the past I have many cars now but refuse to name them they are from various manufacturers but what I see on most channels is an anti-Ford bias and I have no regret in flagging this. I have no animous towards GM at all but don' think they deserve to be placed on a pedestal, Ford has designed and made more halo cars that competes directly with other world brands on merit with GM there are only a few successes in this way. This is a fact mate and reliability is subjective these these because if Ford release a callback in the name oif safety or precaution it is put down as unreliable but you or others name any major breakdowns? I would rather gather data from garages and recovery services to really find the true staistics and you my friend might be surprised.
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Quality control across all manufactures post covid is a disgrace, and the prices went up 40% … I think FINALLY people are figuring it out, as a middle class person, it’s not worth being poor over these vehicles
What are you even on about? Where’s all the poor quality control on this Tahoe/Suburban? People who buy them aren’t poor. If you’re poor after buying anything that means you couldn’t afford it way before you arrived to the dealership.
@@G-Rated most people who have a little bit of money or are in the middle to upper class would not financially benefit from buying one of these stupid ridiculously priced vehicles and I’m talking about in the 50 to 80 K range. It’s just stupid to buy something so expensive that eventually depreciates to nothing. What makes most sense is buying a reliable used vehicle like a 2020 Toyota Sequoia or has been taken care of and not support these companies that are trying to rip everybody off.
Here’s a little secret if you invested that 60 K and a mutual fund rather than a vehicle that’s 60 K would probably be worth upwards of 120 K in the span. It took you to pay off that car…
@@Wellh0wrya You say buy a Toyota Sequoia and not support the company’s trying to rip people off? I knew it would come out that you’re just a Japanese apologist and you just lost all credibility. Toyota is infamous for their price gouging and on old tech they’ve been developing for decades. Take their hybrid tech for instance which all equipped models are usually marked up while the rest of the cars are pretty underwhelming especially compared to something like a 2025 Tahoe. I already knew you were a Japanese fanboy from the tone in your comment.
Y’all love to talk about “quality control” but y’Ll still haven’t explained why the brand new Tundra’s cab needs to be removed from the bed to address their problems. Or why their new turbocharged V6 engines are failing. Can you explain Tundras being delivered with backwards badges?? Let’s GET REAL here.
@@Wellh0wrya Apparently you’re new around here. Tahoe and Yukons aren’t cheap budget friendly models, that’s why the Acadia and Traverse exist. The Tahoe and Yukon are premium and luxury SUVs, not designed so that everyone in America working minimum wage jobs can afford a High Country. It’s a shame you have to explain this to grown men & women around these parts of RUclips.
I know it's a minor, and usually not a very often used feature, but I'm super glad they brought back fog lights for the Tahoe and Suburban!
FACTS!! The last gen (21’-24’) models missed out on not having them. I will NEVER buy a full-size suv without fog lights 😂🤣I totally agree.
I feel like fog lights just aren’t necessary anymore with how bright modern LED headlights are these days.
@@msokes9 I totally understand that! There’s just certain conditions where it’s super foggy or when there’s high winds in the winter causing snow fog that having those lights close to the ground to are beneficial to see the road more easily, even with OEM LED headlights. The other 99% of days I’m good to live without them.
I find that fog lights are extremely important in a tall vehicle. I have a 2020 Silverado trail boss. And it came from the factory without fog lights. I've driven in dark, rainy back roads, and without those fog lights, it's extremely hard to see when it's downpouring at night. I love the new led fog lights that I put onto my truck but still If you get any model above a base model, all vehicles should have fog lights as a standard feature
@@trewilliams54321 1000%
They should have made Tham stackable so the dealers can store them more easily.
I feel like the Wagoneer will stack perfectly on top of one another due to their bland box shape and school bus proportions. Lol
Lame
I love that the American market still supports these big suvs. The suburban, Tahoe, expedition and other similar models are all fricken awesome vehicles. I wish Australia had left hand drive and was built with larger vehicles in mind. You can drive this size vehicle here but it's always tricky getting a park places.
That's because vehicles this size don't make sense for the vast majority of people and are usually just status symbols for Kevin and Karen.
Us American's dont even want these big SUVs but Ford, GM and Dodge are pushing them onto us. The US consumers have been very vocal that we want cheap, smaller vehicles but what do we get? The cheap, smaller vehicles are discontinued and here we are with the larger vehicles that get more and more expensive.
@@joshualewis393 Companies gotta keep shareholder value going, consumers have to keep pretending they're rich
@@joshualewis393 You sound like a MAGAt. Please explain how GM, Ford, and Dodge are pushing large SUVs to American consumers but Toyota and Nissan who just redesigned their offerings after discontinuing sedans _aren’t_ doing the same exact thing? Especially when Chevrolet will happily sell your cheap arse a base model Trax.
Go outside and grip some grass.
@@theglowcloud2215 some consumers can actually afford a Tahoe, believe it or not 🤡
Its easy to hate the Suburbans and Expeditions until you drive one
Unless you are trying to park one in a major city 😂
@@MrJamesLuz unless you're a capable driver
$5K price increases? You have to be kidding me.
@@davelindgren5245 right, let’s just ignore all the visible and non-visible upgrades & pretend that a 2025 base model Tahoe isn’t just as nice as a mid trim Ford Expedition, Toyota Sequoia, or Nissan Armada and for thousands less. I promise I’m not the fanboy I may appear to be today, but some of y’all’s comments here are ridiculously silly if I must say so. Lol
@@G-Rated I agree, they are nicer. For the most part, they made some minor styling changes and put some nice screeens in them.
Are they 7 - 10% nicer, no.
Are they passing on the cost of inflation that our government has created - yes.
Have they passed on the gigantic raises that the workers got because the CEO and top people are raking in huge money from their stock options through stock buy backs - yes
Has the average American worker received a 7 - 10% raise - no
Is it nicer than the Ford Expedition when Ford has also passed on the cost I mentioed above - yes
With out zero percent financing can the average worker buy the Tahoe or the Expdition without going into serious debt - no
Do I give a shit that you think my comment is ridculous - No
Do I think you can stick your opinion on my comment where the sun doesn't shine - yes
The way the economy is right now, they should decrease by $10k, fuel tank should be increased to 40 to 50 gallons.
@@G-Rated To bad for you thee Nissan and Toyota are FA R better trucks
@@davelindgren5245
It sounds like you’re upset that an American automaker is so successful and doing so well that they’re able to be paid well and also share that success with their workers via pay increases.
Are you CHEAP and wrong about the value of the Tahoe/Suburban? Yes.
Does Chevrolet give a sh!t that you think their flagship Tahoe is too expensive for the “average Joe”? No. That’s why the Trax and Equinox exists. 🤷🏽♂️
Quad exhaust tips are at least a $20k upgrade and definitely worth it, makes it much faster….as long as you keep the exhaust fluid full.
That exhaust fluid is quite expensive too
I love my 21 Suburban LS with just the basics. Many of my passengers are surprised how much luxury I got in a base model, even my friend with an Escalade. Love my 26 mpg while hauling 5-8 to Florida from Indiana.
WOW! Luckily you had that giant 13 extra horsepower to handle that bumper to bumper traffic 👍🏻
Heck yea!
24" wheels is ridiculous. I also really dislike having so many features on the touchscreen instead of physical buttons. Touchscreens are a massive distraction for drivers and a safety hazard.
Not to mention a physical button will last for 20 years or more. You're going to start having intermittent issues with a touchscreen within 5 years even on something like a toyota.
@@npsit1 I’m confused on how clear & bright touchscreens are a distraction but searching for a physical button somewhere on the dash is _not_ a distraction. Digital buttons are illuminated, don’t fade overtime, and if they aren’t conveniently in one position all of the time you can put them in a spot that’s most comfortable for you.
An actual safety hazard are physical buttons in a group that have lost their faces over the years and you can no longer tell what they operate. or small physical buttons that take your eyes out of the line of sight of the road as the displays are usually at the top of the dash.
@@fewworddotrick that’s because Toyota’s technology is far behind that of *gm’s* and there’s no comparison. Toyota just received touchscreens back again in 2020. These companies aren’t on the same level as far as tech goes and you know it. Although everyone has pretty much followed *gm* in the investment of their own native built in UX systems by going to Google based systems, they don’t all use the same developers nor are they executed the same. I just think ppl around here just really struggle with giving *gm* _their_ credit for what they’ve tackled and got right.
Ah yes the company that still today has a bunch of hybrids on the road that are 25 years old and getting 45 mpg on the *original* battery and transmission fluid is very behind in technology. If being ahead in technology means covering a dash in iPads and using 24" rubber band tires that will cost $2k to replace every 30k miles, I guess I don't want it.
The interior space is definitely better than the current model. I appreciate the fact that they kept physical controls for controlling temperature and AC as well as the headlights and 4WD systems unlike some other vehicles, and whatever climate controls are on the touchscreen, they’re always front and center instead of having to dig through menus to get them, which I greatly appreciate
The exterior has also been updated quite nicely. It’s about time the Suburban got full LED lighting in the rear. That’s been a minor nitpick of mine since this generation came out, so I’m pleased that’s been addressed.
Back to the interior, I think the interior updates were most important to me. They’ve pretty much addressed most of the nitpicks I’ve had with the current interior while still retaining its max cargo volume and passenger accommodations as well as its towing and hauling ability expected out of a large body-on-frame SUV.
And for the High Country trim specifically, I know that 22 inch wheels come standard, but are the 22 inch sterling sliver painted wheels returning on the High Country for 2025? I’ve seen them on prototype vehicles for this refresh, but I’ve never seen any official images of the refreshed Suburban High Country with those wheels. I’d like to know if that wheel design is returning to this trim level for this model year.
I believe that the ‘25 Tahoe & Suburban build it configuration are now on Chev website
I’m on the line building these as we speak
OSHA here, be safe! 😊
Lucky lol.
@@krashnpa oh yea I mean safety is our overriding priority or that’s what I’m told lol
@@jeremyfreedom87y’all have a WHOLE lot of haters out here. Keep up the great work, people love these damn things! 🔥💨
Can you build it without quality control issues for the exorbitant amount of money that you make????
Nice thorough review. I really appreciate the comparison of trim levels.
I love the gear selector, man it brings me back to my childhood
We have a 24 suburban rst. Best family hauler on the market. Seemingly unlimited cargo space. Fuel mileage avg 10 L/100. Mostly highway. Very comfy drive.
A minivan is a better family hauler. You didn’t mention trailering but I’m sure now you will.
@@toddbunnett640 Hi! Is it 5,3 engine?
@@Inko03 yes
@@toddbunnett640 How much fuel it uses in city driving?
I really wish they would have put in the actual duramax diesel in this thing for parts commonality with their HD trucks.
this is a mall crawler not an hd truck
@@JogBird Then towing shouldn't be so hyped up then.
@@Hybris51129how is the towing hyped? Seems fairly balanced with other marketed features.
Isn't the 2024 and earlier the duramax?
From primarily a Ford guy, I’ve always been a big fan of the Tahoe/suburban. I think GM does a better job in the full size category compared to the expedition. The new one looks good
The new expedition with the multi colored tailgate looks terrible.
@@pryme2013 I agree that my least favorite thing about it. Also the oval shaped steering wheel and the ridiculous screen layout
@@msokes9 Yeah both misses. We had a 2005 expedition and it was a nice suv
I love that these are supposed to be family haulers yet they are priced so far out of the reach of the majority of families who could use one. They need to start making more simple vehicles with less garbage in them at a lower cost that more Americans can afford while raising a family. Granted no one needs a brand new vehicle, brand new vehicles are a status symbol they are for the wealthy and stupid. I’ll stick to my early 2000’s GM’s when they were much more reliable and more simple.
Then why do they sell so many of them to families 🤔
I wish manufacturers would update the quality control and reliability instead of just cramming more tech in them and letting the reliability tank
More baseless claims about reliability despite the fact they’ve kept their tried and true powertrains unlike the competition. Now y’all are complaining that Chevrolet updated their technology too much after just recently complaining these truck’s interiors were starting to feel dated. They literally can’t win for losing with some of you and it’s hilarious. Y’all will continue to move the goalposts and find SOMETHING to complain about which has already been proven. Y’all literally complain about the pricing while simultaneously complain that they’re too nice and too advanced in technology and features/comfort. It’s mind blowing.
@@G-Ratednot baseless at all you GM shill.
@@G-Rated these things aren't reliable at all. Nor is any of the competition. The only people that omcplaijg about their interiors being outdated are the people that work 40 hours a week and make 120k a year and have way too much money to blow on a new chevy every 5 years after theirs "is old"
@@alg003he’s just a GM shill who can’t handle the truth and reports comments calling him out for it.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk clearly
I've got to be honest. I hate independent suspension in the rear. I especially don't like the idea of needing air shocks to get any ground clearance. I'm sure it rides incredible and provides more space inside. But, this is a step too close to making the Suburban a minivan. Bring back the 2500 Suburban with straight axles, no cylinder deactivation, super charge it, give it lockers, front & back. Give people what they want, and pay no mind to the government. The government works for us anyway. Not the other way around. I think people have forgotten about that. It would be different if the independent suspension was big and beefy with lots of clearance. I crawled under a Suburban recently and was unimpressed by the suspension set-up.
I really don’t think there’s enough of a market for something like that, at least at the price that an OEM would need to command to make such a product profitable.
@ALMX5DP Unfortunately, you're probably right. It's unfortunate. The old suburban's from the 80s were really cool. The biggest problem with them was that they were very underpowered. Other than that, they were simple to work on and pretty durable. It's just too bad that they can't go with a simpler design because if it's not broken, why fix it.
The 24” rubber band tires will be fine in Texas but last winter in Colorado I lost two 45 series tires on 17” wheels to potholes.
sounds like a good continuous revenue stream, whats the problem
Yea 24" is fine for all those real smooth potholes...
I don't want to even think about the costs to replace the tires 😕
They look absurd. I don’t like anything more than a 18” wheel
@@billp5424 maybe stop driving right into large holes in the roadway, especially while driving a heavier vehicle with larger wheels? It’s common sense honestly. It’s not just bad for the tires and rims, making a habit of driving into large potholes isn’t good for your suspension system either. Might as well drive into the median or over a speed bump going 50 mph. 🙄
Beautiful top tier trucks. The diesel is a great idea too.
With all the emission controls that come with it, and lack of longevity- makes no sense
I guess it’s for better MPG
Idk about beautiful, larger-scale traverse labeled suburban not my idea of beautiful. Honestly it's the C-shape DRL and almost fog light worthy headlights
I like your displayed video chapters
Good informative video. Thanks Andree.
It’s on Auto Pilot 23:29.
Does the 6.2L still use cylinder deactivation? Absolute deal breaker.
What the manufacturers don’t tell you is that part of the increase in price is for the wage increases for their employees. Remember they just had union contracts with pay increases.
@texillini1 pay increases for employees? It much rather the bulk the price increase go to factory workers pay than toward executives bonuses and stock options?
@ Whether one likes it or not, federal law requires corporations to try make a profit for the shareholders. It’s the shareholders that really run the company. What they say goes. The board of directors (BOD) has to answer to the shareholders: the CEO has to answer to the BID, and so on down the chain it goes the bottom man. Shareholders don’t give a darn “how” things are done, all they care about is that they get their return on investment. Shareholders are willing to give out all those perks to the executives in order to get their money. Like it or not, employees are no different than the machines or equipment used in a particular industry. It’s just a means to the end. I’m a locomotive engineer. I’m no different than the locomotive I run or the cars I pull. We both are just a means to the end. A maximum profit for the company which relates to maximum return for the investors. American workers pension funds and 401(k)’s are invested in these companies. While the worker may want his money up front in the form of higher wages and benefits, when the companies make policies (that the worker disagrees with) the bean counters are doing what the shareholders want them to do….. maximize the share price which in the end helps the worker’s portfolio.
Hey Andrey, we need the Ike Gauntlet and The Toaster for both 6.2 and 3.0 liter!! Then we will see if General Menace is any better in their new lineup!!! Great Videos Thank You 🙏
Best review ever. Thanks guys 👍
I want one! You are the second person who has mentioned the ride as being smooth and not too bouncy! Is Magnetic ride available on Tahoe’s?
It is. Also available is the mag ride+ air height adjustable
Nice video. These look great!
Beautiful thank you TFL
I would love to see Andre drive at 15 miles an hour over a very large. Pothole on camera and then have another camera that's slow motion. Watch the tire hitting the pothole and then compared that test too 18 inch rim that has more rubber on it. I think it would be very interesting to see the contrast between the 2 tires. And I think it would be a much more thorough test, because out here in Massachusetts, and on the East Coast as a whole, our roads are absolutely terrible. Also, Michigan has some pretty rough roads too. Especially detroit and driving over potholes is normal for us, so we need a vehicle that we can have full confidence in that can handle a harsh bump and not get damaged
The wealthy Chinese market will love them.
Chinese like it, but not L3B
I'm not biased towards a specific brand but the Tahoe would be an easy target for the Ford Expedition, I'd go with the Ford, because GM didn't put enough effort in. It looks very old and traditional from the outside and from the inside as well, the difference between the two vehicles is like the difference between a student and a professor.
One thing is for certain, these two vehicles really result in a lot strongly held opinions on what should or should not be.
The real question is, has GM improved their 3rd row seating compared to the 1st 4-ish generations? For years: no foot space, 2nd row seats that don't adjust fore and aft, low seat/high floor, etc...
The 3rd row on suburban is amazing. Ever since they ditched that solid rear axle for an independent rear suspension, 3rd is excellent in Tahoe and Suburban. Suburban is one of the only 3 mainstream SUVs that can match a minivan in terms of cargo and people hauling ability.
The first 60k will be a joy and then, you better have a good mechanic.
I like the engine choices!
Prices are ridiculous.
Love our 2021 Tahoe Z71 (2nd Gen. 2021 built from mid-June '21 onward) ... it's awesome! (BTW, don't buy a 1st Gen. 2021, made before June 2021, which has the Auto Start/Stop feature ... lots of engine problems, ... I know I had one for four months).
But I think I have to upgrade to the 2025 Tahoe maybe the RST trim this time around but no 24's, the 22's will suffice although I enjoyed the 20's on the Z71 to accidently roll over curbs on tight turns at times (it's a big vehicle) without damaging the rims.
Just found your page. Impressed with your presentation skills and dissemination of relevant info. Most others mean well, yet waste too much time sharing unimportant info that has become homogeneous from one evaluator to another. Thanks! Keep up the good work! 👍
I don't like the seat configuration. They should offer just 5 seats as well. I have to pay for things I don't need, that weight more and take space. And I would like to have the option to get 17 wheels on the Z71
wonder how long they seat on the lot ? thinking over 200 days ??
Did you feel a different level of comfort per the interior, depending on the model
Not offering the supercharged v8 in the RST version is a big miss in my opinion.
Yes! First comment! And first like!
Just keep pumping out these 100k+ cars. See what would happen next
I love the 6.2 in my Sierra and wish I had it in my Suburban.
Did they discontinue the LT?
no
No, it just wasn't included in this video. They will never discontinue that trim.
best trim bang for buck
Always pushing the highest trim lines
I had seen somebody talk about the super cruise and they complained that it seemed to bounce from side to side in a lane like bumper bowling. Is that the case or were they being dramatic?
Need these at $35 grand.
Lose all the electronic nonsense crap.
Let depreciation do its thing.
Step into the time machine and go back 20 years.
We need the government to quit running the auto industry like a cartel and let in competition! Prices would plummet!
The people who don’t like the 24’s lucky for you they are optional so get the smaller ones
Stop with the huge wheels already. No reason or advantage to having wheels over 18". Not to mention unnecessary expensive.
People gonna be hurting when they see the price tag on a 24" tire and then hurting again when every shop in America scratches the wheels up because they're so hard to mount
18s would look beyond cartoonish on a vehicle of that size.
@gilly3531 most of the older Suburban, Tahoe, silverado had 15 or 16" wheels but much more sidewalls.
@@gilly3531your a cartoon with that comment
@@gilly3531I have 18’s on my 2500 crew cab which is bigger than one of these. I’d rather have a proper tire available from many different manufacturers at a decent price than gangster looking wheels.
That section of the expressway is 75 on the toll roads. Not 65.
Would like to see the Duramax 6.6 liter diesel engine in the Suburbans and Tahoes
Nice 😊
I been hearing 420/460 for 11 model years now. Cmon gm
Still good numbers, I sure as heck don’t really want or need anymore than that.
@@ALMX5DP so why even drive a new truck ? Go get a 1950/s with no power
@@9663mu not sure I understand. I said this had good power, plus it is updated in many areas that people would find beneficial over something from the 1950’s…
We need a guide to the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow before we can buy that thing
I get it, new premium tech and features but still too much of a price increase.
No doubt Chevy will continue dominating this segment.
top of the line could be worth 50k max.
The biggest problem with the screen integration is that I find it immensely distracting when driving on the freeway at night. It's particularly bad when trying to steer into a moderate to tight right hand bend.
Those 24 inch wheels on that Suburban look stupid. Definitely would much rather have more side wall. Other than that I think that 3.0L diesel is the real gem in these vehicles. That engine is probably going to cause Ford and Ram to rethink a few things.
This 3.0L Duramax is very good!
@@TFLtruck When will TFL do a Super Ike test with the diesel? My camper is 7,000 lbs and I don't think the diesel will handle it as well as my 3.5 Ecoboost.
What about potholes and curbs?
It should come with a Whipple Supercharger for their “performance” pack. Ford would do that………….
like the Z71 tahoe. just wish it was more utilitarian ..than a 3 row luxury family school bus . needs high payload and towing and lot of us off roaders, car campers, overlanders have no need want or will ever use a 3rd row like a bench seat up front so if I build our a kit still have a 3 passenger wagon but most dealers will opt out the Z71 with every luxury opt
Problem is when it’s starting at 55-60k, people demand some luxury and features and not a complete utilitarian car. The Land Cruiser went that route of being utilitarian and all I see is people complaining about it starting at 60k and having clutch seats and manual seats standard. People who want utilitarian assume cheap too, and automakers won’t deliver the latter.
Tahoe and Suburban cost much as what an Escalante used to cost severely years ago. In five years, they might cost what an Escalante cost now. Oh well, it doesn't stop people from buying.
I would never purchase a Duramax 3 L diesel, knowing that the dumbass engineers put the oil pump and its belt in the rear of the engine, between the engine and transmission.
Meaning, when you need to replace that belt, the entire transmission has to come out of the vehicle costing several thousand dollars to replace a $40 belt.
If GM changed that belt to a gear or a chain, then I, as well as many other people, would get that Duramax 3L diesel in one of their truck trucks
200,000 miles until it needs replaced. I own a 24 and I’ll sell it way before it ever gets to 200k
@@johnmorris77 I kept mine.
@@joeybishop7604 you just said you don’t have a 3.0 duramax
Fast Lane Truck has NOT realized that these cars are to expensive. No one wants to pay the price for these anymore. I think you guys need to start talking about more sub 30,000 dollar cars that people CAN afford. I believe these still have those engine issues.
I didn’t need to watch the video - I already Knew it wasn’t worth it
They need to change the suburban Tahoe and Yukon lineup GM needs to make these a better looking vehicle because they have looked like this for years small changes that don’t equal a lot in the looks department of the exterior
Good Morning🌞 Sir
Which City In Texas USA 🇺🇸
By the time the dealer gets it, that fully loaded Suburban will be 100k
But has GM figured out how to fix the problems with V8 engines having lifters and camshafts fail? I know several folks who had trucks who suffered these failures out of warrantee.
Why did GM reduce the size the of the fuel tanks? They used to be 26 gallon for Tahoe/Yukon and 31 gallon for the longer wheel base.
People always want to focus so much on towing numbers. Look, they do their research on their customers and MOST people will never tow even what the current max capability is. Ford loves to claim their 1/2 ton chassis can tow 12,000+ lbs and that’s down right dangerous. I don’t think GM needs to adjust anything with their towing capability.
I wish there was a small truck with a small turbo diesel
😅 I can tell you before the end of the video the price isn't worth it.
I love the work that’s done here especially from Tommy and Andre but I MUST say this…in TFL comments are always weirdos trying their absolute best to fear monger folks into buying a underwhelming and cheaply built Japanese competitor or they’re just in the comments complaining that they can’t afford the *gm* product as if Toyota has the best pricing in the marketplace, offer superior trucks and undercut their competitors. These folks struggle to find faults with these refreshed Suburban/Tahoe models so they’ll complain about the price and try convincing you it doesn’t make sense to buy them before suggesting you to go to a Toyota dealership and be price gouged for a Sequoia with a copy/paste Tundra pickup truck’s interior, very little space in third row, virtually no cargo space behind the third row, a V6 engine with major issues, and a lazy execution in tech and overall engineering. You can’t make this stuff up.
Bravo, *gm!* Y’all addressed a lot of the gripes I had with the Tahoe Suburban. I knew they would eventually get even better just didn’t expect it to be this soon.
Ive owned 5 Tahoes and Yukons, No way these are worth the price they are asking. Actually every truck and SUV is WAY overpriced. Ive owned over 45 different vehicles.
Same here. Im about 65 vehicles, including motorcycles.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Nice! I had 2 crotch rockets, Im sure those are overpriced too. Cant believe people are paying these prices. Insanity or they just wanna look rich, or both.
Its ok I guess but, they charging a lot for a SUV & it doesn't even have massage chairs n ambient lighting also the Tahoe doesn't come with a 6V Suburban has the 6V & 8V Gas tank 🤔 seems a little off but they look nice.
I just want a simple truck with a strong engine and no fancy electronics. Hand crank window and manual transmission.
The days of manly trucks are gone.
Stupid high prices.
Chevy keeps it real truck. W a big ol v8. Not some 4 cyl. W hybrid 😂😂😂
Like the diesel. Thats about it.
Tahoe ❌ suburban ✅
Manufacturers are running out of ideas. Same old stuff.
yup safe driving hands off the wheel accident waiting to happen
Where is the 6.6 l duramax engine?
2:25 😂
This was a very informative video however every single time Andre and Roman review a Ford product they will whine and moan at the slightest modest increase on prices year on year in this video Andre was happy about a whopping 5k+ average increase across the entire range. Not good enough guys. TFL is still my favourite review channel but sometimes the appearance of bias is evident this is not so good. :)
*gm’s* quality and reliability can no longer be compared to that of Ford’s who is abysmal at best. Roman definitely has a bias against *gm* and always nitpicks and tries to rag on their products especially when compared to a Ford. The difference is *gm* justifies their price increases. You can glance at a refreshed Tahoe and be able to tell where the extra money went. Then you drive them and even the cheapest trims feel better on the road than some BOF Lexus products. Ford is chasing *gm* at this point in the game and there’s no competition in my humble opinion. 🤷🏽♂️
I have pointed out the price hike in my 2025 Tahoe video last week, in this video, and on TFLtruck.comb. These price hikes suck across the board
@@G-Rated Mate you certainly are not serious. The quality of Ford has come on leaps and bounds and to say GM is more reliable is laughing in the face of facts. It depends on the matrix which is used to judge reliability both have some issues so it is give here and take there however innovations in where Ford excels and of course GM always copy Ford ie pro power onboard. Ford has NEVER had to rely on a handout, GM took Government bail out and so Ford all the way.... Mustang worldreknowned, F-150 globally rated, Ranger has been kicking butts all over long before arrival back here, Ford HB the most successful F1 power. Ford GT outsold and is more valuable than 5 Corvettes... GM only beat Ford at rebadging other makers cars ask those who drive Buicks and Chevy Spark, Chevy SS, Chevy Captiva and Trailblazer... Exit stage left mate ...
@@saddist1Gtown you bring up GM’s 2008 bailout in 2024 then you lose all credibility by default. What are we even talking about here? You Ford fans are clearly triggered right now at the sight of any new *gm* products. None of what you said is actually true. Chevrolet excels Ford is both build quality and both short/long term reliability. Not sure where you’re getting _your_ info.
@@G-Rated Mate you keep embarrassing yourself. I am no Ford fan but a motoring enthusiiast. I owned only a 1970 Mach-1 and a Saphire Cosworth and a 2007 Fiesta ST. I owned a Honda Integra Type-R a Mercedes 190E Brabus and Audi A4 Triumph spitfire Opel Manta GTE, BMW E46, Mazda 6 Toyota Rav-4 Renault Laguna Renault Scenic, Pegeot 205 1.9 GT. Citroen AX GT, These are cars I've owned in the past I have many cars now but refuse to name them they are from various manufacturers but what I see on most channels is an anti-Ford bias and I have no regret in flagging this. I have no animous towards GM at all but don' think they deserve to be placed on a pedestal, Ford has designed and made more halo cars that competes directly with other world brands on merit with GM there are only a few successes in this way. This is a fact mate and reliability is subjective these these because if Ford release a callback in the name oif safety or precaution it is put down as unreliable but you or others name any major breakdowns? I would rather gather data from garages and recovery services to really find the true staistics and you my friend might be surprised.
15:00 у мого АЙФОН передня скло виглядає краще якщо я його тиждень не буду чистити 😂
The RST has 13 more hp so it should definitely cost 15k more -Chevy
We should all boycott buying new for 1 year and bankrupt the big 3
I wished you would have stopped at Whataburger. Very disappointing.
I’ll take the HEMI based Durango over these land yachts.
After my experience with my 2018 suburban, I will never buy GM again
No HUD on a high country WTF
The trims are:
Expensive
Criminally expensive
Politician level embezzlement expensive
Funding Ukraine war expensive
Cheeze and Rice Andrea for MPG can you start saying MPG or anything else instead of efficiency ever damn time!!!