SPRINTER 4x4 | 30k Mile REVIEW. WOULD we BUY a Sprinter 4x4 again with all these issues?
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- SPRINTER 4x4 | 30k Mile REVIEW. WOULD we BUY a Sprinter 4x4 again with all these issues?
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We have a Mercedes sprinter and we agree with your service issues 100 percent so we have everything taken care of by freight liner especially the recall stuff, we have found Mercedes to be done right ridiculous! However all in all we absolutely love our sprinter I would not trade it for any other model for van life.
Hello Darlene! I AGREE we love our Sprinter for sure. Definately will take notes of using freight liner for the recall issues. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave your comments. ..I love interacting with people.
We have a 2020 and your review was spot on with our experience. MB Sprinter owners are like the stepchild of MB, second class citizens to them it feels like. But we love our van. Warranty work is lackluster, our door panel was missing fasteners behind the plastic caps from the factory, they addressed some but some are still missing, still waiting to get the van in.
Good Morning - Agreed, we love our van for sure - it could just be better like you stated. But the memories that we'll make in the van well over come all the MB shortcomings! Hope your day is good.
Fantastic review! My own concerns/issues exactly mirror yours so it is comforting to know it's not just me &/or my van. Your video adds so much confidence to my Sprinter now... Thank you!
There is such a remarkable similarity to the 60's & 70's VW Buses/Vans I have owned... All love & all hate. Not necessarily that extreme, but certainly major Pros & Cons.
Thank you Tyson! Congratulations on your van!! We really like the Sprinter vans so much we bought another and building out our as we speak!
I was between two sprinter models and leaning towards the one that has the lane assist as I think that's a pretty important feature and works well in other cars. But after watching your video and doing a brief research I've decided to get the one without lane assist. (There were other differences too but lane assist was the only one I cared about) You saved me a lot of money and frustration. So thank you :)
Hello Erman! Safety features are obviously there for a reason and we are providing only or opinion... Certainly glad we were able to help you make this decision and save you money! Thank you for your comments and watching! Enjoy your new van!!!
Pretty sad how Mercedes considers safety to be a feature, Honda gives all safety features free at all trim levels
Thank you for your honest review !!! So much positive with respect to size and driving,-experience which is also what I appreciate.
I really want to experience some of van-life (long weekends), but coming from Toyota's reliability (2 Tundra trucks in last 14 years with zero visits to dealerships after purchase), I'm just not ready to transition to a vehicle that is (potentially) so maintenance -intensive.
Thank you for watching our videos and if you are following along you will know we have purchased another Sprinter Van! We still love the SPRINTER van. I agree with you on sticking with what you trust in vehicles and the most important thing is your experiencing life and going to buy a VAN!!!
Thanks for the detailed video... super helpful...
You are so welcome William! We really enjoy sharing how we spend our life and creating the videos as well. Thank you for your comments and for watching!!
Thanks for sharing. I also have a VS30 4x, lane assist and wind assist have a software update w/ significant improvement (IMO). Your DPF failure that early is rare, unless extreme operating conditions (e.g. long idles). Hopefully smooth sailing from here. Also, shop around, I’m very happy w/ my dealership (but not the 1st one) DIY okay, but careful on the fuel filter replacement. Keep truckin’ 😊
Thank you for your comments!!
Thanks for this video; it's helpful. I'm looking at a van to go travelling and taking my motorbike along. The Sprinter is at the top of my list.
Good luck on your van search, they provide a ton of freedom and flexibility.
Thank you for the review.
Good to hear from an actual user not trying to sell something.
I hear you on the service center experience. In general I had various bad experiences with authorized dealers myself and this is across different brands.
Have you tried to google independent garages specializing in Sprinters? We here in Denver, CO have an independent garage that even Mercedes sends challenging jobs to.
We have a 2006 Dodge Sprinter back from when it was Daimler Chrysler. Last year we rented a 2021 RV on a Ford E3500 chassis. The driving experience was by no means comparable to the sprinter. Ok I know that it is not comparing the same types of chassis.
Hello Martin! Agree with everything you have said... We still live the Sprinter.. just like with any vehicle there are pros and cons as well as getting your vehicle served. Thank you for watching and leaving your comments have a great weekend.
Thanks for your real life review of the Sprinter van.
Your so welcome Sandra! Thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing your insights and experience.
thanks for the review, now I will buy a Sprinter!
YEAH!!! Thank you for watching Paul... You will not regret it!
Thanks for sharing!
I own one too (2020, 316 4cycl) and (mostly) share your opinions on the Sprinter. The driving position and visibility are fenomenal, it drives like a dream and the 4x4 capabilities are outstanding for a van (not intended for anything crazy like rock climbing in Moab).
As to the negatives, same experience here (and I'm in Europe, my van was built in Germany). Lots of QC issues (MBUX screen randomly switches off, ignition control malfunction, a software issue causing 4WD to engage in its own, issues engaging 4WD, loud clunking coming from the transfer case after engaging 4WD, several different sensor issues, etc), bad customer service, unsatisfactory repair jobs...
In my experience, it's far from a reliable van (7 visits to MB dealers in 9k miles), which is very disappointing considering how much it costs.
Although overall, I'm inclined to say the pros outweigh the cons, I live in the van full-time and need something reliable, which unfortunately, isn't the case. I've been touring Europe this summer and over the past month, I've had to visit a dealer every 600 miles. Repairs are covered under the warranty but... It's a hassle when you're on the road and have to leave the van at MB. And the warranty only covers me in the European Union so I'm not inclined to travel overseas at the moment because I don't feel confident I can rely on the van not failing and leading to a pricey repair I'll have to pay for myself. Which once again, shouldn't be the case after paying almost 70k for a van...
So if I could go back in time...no, I would NOT buy it again...(or any MB vehicle for that matter). It's about how the company conducts itself and treats its customers.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just "a bit" disappointed with the purchase... Aching to go on some more adventurous trips but afraid the Sprinter will leave me stranded somewhere where a tow truck can't reach me 😅
Hi Trav - no worries on the rant - agree with much of your thought process and totally understand how the reliability issues mess with your full-time travel plans. For us, I'm not sure there is anything better but with that Mercedes was as good as I thought they were. Have a great time full-timing - we aren't full-time on the Sprinter but we do travel full-time without a house. About 5 months on the Sprinter. Thanks for your comment and enjoy #vanlife!
@@GayeNRobert Thanks! Hopefully I can get the main issue fixed soon (defective or damaged t-case) and the others ironed out and enjoy the van problem-free...
As to some of the other things you mentioned in your review, I can't attest to the lane assist issues because it's a feature I intentionally stayed clear of. ✌️😄
The crosswind assist has rarely come on, but when it has it's been appreciated and (so far) has given me no reason to complain.
The active brake assist occasionally beeps for no reason (it mistakes a shadow/reflection for a person?) but has yet to slam on the brakes so I have no complaints. (Maybe a software update can fix that for you? Make sure to ask. I've found that there are tons of updates to install whenever I take it in but they only install ones related to problems you actually have and leave the rest untouched, so it might be worth asking). My only grievance with it is that it's right where I plan to install the winch and on this side of the pond MB won't let you disable it so my outfitter is going to have to relocate it somewhere where it will still work as intended.
Pedal lag isn't usually an issue for me (I'm generally a alight-footed driver) but has annoyed me a few times when pulling into moving traffic or when off-roading and in need of immediate response.
Overall it's a good van but I really didn't expect for a Mercedes (and one this price for that matter) to be so problematic. If I could go back in time I would have spent the money on an old MB Vario 4x4 with front and rear diff locks and zero electronics. They are relatively easy to find here in Europe (albeit overpriced) and the mechanics are simple and can be fixed anywhere in the world, without having to take it to a MB dealer. You lose most of the creature comforts and they are loud and slow, but for my intended use, that would have been fine, and they're reliable and easy to fix (for an over-engineered MB...)
They equip rock-solid engines too that aren't as delicate as our modern Bluetec ones, which I've discovered can't be driven in most of Africa without disabling Adblue, the DPF and adding a fuel pre-filter. And even so, from Senegal downward fuel quality is too low for such a "delicate" engine.
But for Europe, N. America and Oceania the Sprinter is a great van... When it works as intended 😅😜
I'm just shocked at how many of the issues I'm having are documented in online forums as far back as 2015... And still haven't been addressed. I guess it's cheaper for MB to fix per-unit issues as they arise than to slow down/halt production, re-engineer, discard stock of already-built parts, etc. Most companies work like that nowadays but it feels plain wrong for a brand that markets itself as premium (and charges accordingly) to pull that kind of stuff, and so blatantly.
Sometimes I feel like I'm driving a beta, pre-production version, not yet for to be commercialized... 😂
Overall it feels disrespectful towards buyers, whose time and troubles (caused by malfunctions easily avoidable by doing proper testing and QC before beginning production) they seem to completely disregard. But sadly, it seems like that's the general direction the market is taking...
I reckon this is the last new vehicle I'll be buying--tried, tested and proven over time is the way to go for me. Good thing this van maintains its resale value so well (especially here in Europe where all new Sprinters will equip a 1.9L 4cyl from now on, with low-range no longer being an option). I'll enjoy it while still under warranty and move on to something else. Maybe a Unimog? I wish! 😂
Anyway, sorry for another rant. Once I get going on this subject it seems like I can't get myself to shut up 😅😂
Enjoy your Sprinter and travels and I hope it doesn't give you any grief!
@@bmwareugly my Chevy van has 201k and is doing great
Yeah,sadly german cars are good if you can buy a new one every month lol, my dads van just die, at 320k miles, dealer? Whats that? 😆, oil changenge, gas and flored that big v8
German cars are very nice, but sadly they are just to take a short trip to the park or the mall, never to far away from an army of mechanics :(
That’s a fenomenal review you did. Theancs.
very very infromative,thanks guys....
Thank you for watching
Great share. So nice Sprinter. Thanks my friend. Have a nice day. Greetings from Vietnam. Welcome you travel to Vietnam soon
Thank you so much! We hope to be in Vietnam soon!!! Thank you for watching!
Agreed!
We have a 2019 Sprinter 2500 170 wb with 50k on it. We have the hesitation issue (which you found is an EGR valve issue.) We have the same issues with the "white knuckle" crosswind assist. It's scary, but you get used to it. Like the blind spot assist, but skipped all of the other bells and whistles.
Disconnect the battery if you are going to remove the seats to avoid the airbag light issue.
Love all your comments ohiomoto! Thank you for the heads up on disconnecting the battery! Thank you for watching! Have a great day!
We too have this same van. Tried MB DESLERSHIP, once. Never again. Great vehicle though!
Great video and I'm glad I'm not the only one with those issues you mentioned. I joke the Sprinter is just full of first-world problems but at that price point, you do kinda expect more. I didn't want to get a vehicle right after a major redesign, so I waited, but even with a 2021, I've had all the recalls you mention, etc. And yes, service quality GREATLY varies at Mercedes dealers. I had one in Colorado keep the vehicle for almost 2 weeks and return it worse than they had it; another dealer in Florida ended up fixing the issue in 4 hrs. Yes, some stuff is just plain silly (where the 4x4 button is located, completely obscured by the steering wheel; speed limit sign recognition is basically useless) and other stuff is rather dangerous, the surprise braking from time to time due to driver systems being over active as you also mention. My 4x4 Winnebago Bold on the 3500 Sprinter MPG is closer to 14 or 15. Finally, I have been really impressed with the build out quality of Winnebago (cabinets, dovetail drawers, etc) and the quality of the systems they installed (Volta, solar, Truma, etc). Thanks for the tip on the acceleration lag; I may try your solution. Note to readers, the acceleration lag is annoying at sea level, but at elevation, it's crazy! I've had the Sprinter get stuck pulling/backing out of a slanted parking space in Colorado (had to put it in 4x4 low range) and you have to stop several car lengths back at stop lights in an effort to try and time the acceleration when you anticipate traffic to go in front of you (getting a running start). However, if the car in front of you hesitates, it can defeat your timing, and you look like a total slowpoke.
Definately first works problems lol! Love all you comments thank you for watching! Have a GREAT weekend
Wow that intro song is so fire, thanks for sharing 👌🏾💯
I appreciate it
Thanks for the honest real world review!
You bet Rueben!
Thank you for the review! We have a transit and seem to be blowing past all sprinters on the freeway. When you reach higher speeds (75-85 mph) what is the stability, rpm range, and mpg? Also at 6’3” what is the interior standing height when a ceiling is installed? Mercedes dimensions say 79” but I believe that is in between the ribs in the roof before a ceiling is attached. Thank you!!
Hi Nathan. Sorry for the delay, your comment just popped up. No issue at 75-85 mph - feels just like a car. Rides nice. The interior height with our ceiling is just over 6'3". Probably could get another inch with a little less ceiling thickness. Thanks for your comment and have a great evening
A good and fair assessment, thanks for sharing. We have a gas 170 that we got back in April and I agree with many of your negatives and your perspective of Mercedes. It's not even a dealer issue for me, it's really a Mercedes company issue from my perspective. My dealer was pretty good to work with. I actually felt sorry for them having to deal with all the recalls and availability of options, production problems, delayed emissions approval, etc. Mercedes just appears to be a very poorly run car company, at least in the way the serve the US market. We had a couple VW's in the last 10 years and they were similar, so maybe it's a German things. I hate to stereotype, but I've found that the German companies make vehicles that are very satisfying when they work, but you should just expect a lot more problems compared to a ford, honda, etc. The crosswind assist and lane keeping are a complete joke and unsafe. I assume some of this is because we're talking about a commercial van and individuals/RV builders are not their target market. All that said, demand for Sprinters is sky high, so I guess Mercedes doesn't care to spend time fixing stuff and is just focusing on production volume with quality/engineering be damned. If there was any other option that would work from what I wanted in a camper, I would have gone another route, but the sprinter was the best of the bad options. Like you, I really do like the van overall, but Mercedes as a company is abysmal.
Hi Grwoolf - Agreed - well put! Like you stated - would love to find another route - but nothing better in my opinion on the market at this time. And truely, for the most part we are happy - just not that impressed with Mercedes like I thought I would be. But all is good - thanks for your comment - love reading other peoples opinions. Have a Great evening.
Spot on! I own a 2020 4x4 316 Sprinter with 9k miles on it and have had to take it to be serviced 7 times so far for a number of different issues, especially 4x4-related (t-case). It's discouraging to search online and find that many of these issues have been present since 2015 and have never been addressed. And as you mention, it's MB I take issue with, the way they run the company, deal with issues (or fail to do so), how their service network works, the treatment we get as commercial vehicle customers, etc. Aside from the issues it's a great vehicle to drive but... I wouldn't buy it again....
Thanks for the video. I rented a revel a couple weeks ago and agree 100% that lane assist is down right dangerous at times. Regard the most expensive Mercedes, the sprinter is not even close as G Wagens and S class start at over $100k. But good to know they don’t provide loaners.
Thanks for your comment - hope you enjoyed your Revel rental - the Revel looks very nice. I like the bed that raises to the ceiling in the back - that was our original design idea.
@@GayeNRobert sprinter seems like a great platform. The Revel doesn’t fit my life, but can see the appeal.
Sprinter 190K is probably more expensive than95% of the vehicles that go to the avg dealer for service.
Thanks for the video! Your video was enough for us to decide against buying a sprinter.
Hi Sushant - glad it gave you the information to make an informed decision. Have a great day!
@@GayeNRobert Cheers. All the best!
Solid review!!!
Thank you C Crowley and thank you for watching us!
Thank you for the Review:) I had a 2017 2wd I just loved...sold it to my buddy and wondering if I should buy again or try the transit AWD this time....hey...what is your MPG?
Hi Theresa - we thought we'd consider the Transit also, but feel in love with the Sprinter 1st. Our MPG is between 17-18. Hope you find your new van soon - we love having our van part of our travel life for sure! Enjoy your day
A very good review, I enjoyed your honesty and humility. I also have a 2019 sprinter revel. I too no longer regard Mercedes as a premium brand, in fact it sits near the bottom on Consumer Reports list for reliability. My sprinter service manager at the closest Mercedes dealer, said people don't buy Mercedes for reliability (can you believe that?). I have had many repair visits (five) in 35K miles. (1) Tire pressure sensors failed, (2) rear differential failed from day one, (3) battery drains at 60ma (within Mercedes spec, I was told) - so high that I always disconnect the battery near the accelerator pedal, when I park it for more than a day. Now I know why that disconnect is there. (4) steering pump hoses loose. (5) Front wheel alignment done incorrectly, resulting in early tire replacement. I also have the delayed power you mentioned. The radio speakers are terrible (this is a premium brand?). I have had less problems by far on my 2001 Toyota Celica GTS with 247K miles. I would not but this van again, I would go with the Transit AWD. I don't know if it is better, but 3500 dealers versus 200+ sprinter Mercedes dealers feels more secure. I have been fortunate to still get loaner vehicles, but was told no longer would the dealer provide then for Sprinters. I live 45 minutes from dealer. My service manager, who knows me well now from all the visits, privately told me he would get me a loaner. A very good review from you!
Great video. I own a 2018 Sprinter, 170, 4X4. In the first 35,000 miles:
1. Park-neutral safety switch failed (won't start)
2. Front differential loose on the sub-frame - 3 visits to the dealer to solve and 3 months
3. Left front CV joint failed
4. Glow plug module, failed
5. Wiring problem that took 3 visits to dealer to track down
6. DEF leak near SCR
7. Alternator failed
8. Right front CV joint failed
And the closest dealer is a 6-hour drive one way! I have some 10,000 of those first 35,000 miles just going to dealers. And for those of you in the SW USA. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER go to Albuquerque MB. I wouldn't let them work on my lawnmower. Also had to deal with MB USA in Atlanta... MB, as a company, is terrible. Far better luck with Ford and certainly Toyota. "Mercedes, the best, or nothing!" Take nothing if you have a choice.
I still have the van. When it is working, it is great. I haven't had issues for 15,000 miles now. About 50,000 miles currently.
Happy to here you have had your van running successfully lately! Thank you for watching! Happy New Year!
Whoa ... nightmare. I just bought one. I'm truly concerned now and although the Sprinter drives and handles really well after all I'm learning, I can never trust it. I will sell it after a year or two, won't have it around when the warranty expires. Sorry to know Daimler Benz has put you through the ringer as you stated above, there is no excuse for them doing this. None.
Just like any vehicle you can have a lemon in the bunch. We are happy with our overall and are buying and building out a new one soon! Congrats on buying your new van!
We live in Abq and can vouch for the comments you made. Never go to Abq MB dealership. Ours is a 2019, with 15 k miles. We go to Silver Star auto haus. Better prices, better service. Enjoy !
Good review 👍 I you should do diy videos on how to service them.
Thank you exciting family! Yes you definitely should do reviews on how to service them. Many people would watch! Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the review! I own a 2011 (NCV3 4x2) that I built out myself, purchased used, with the explicit pupose of building, traveling, owning one, before I move to the 4WD or AWD. Totally agree about the service - it's my daily driver and it's near impossible to get a service appt that isn't 2 months out - and they want to keep your van for 1-2 weeks. I've been trying to get in (post AEM) while I have a warranty for a while and it's been tough. I will say that my local dealer got me in to at least run a scan on a recent CEL to assess things, clear the CEL..etc at no charge, within a day after pleading with them for a while. I still need to get it back in and I know it'll be left for some period of time. Still, I'm test driving both a 22' and 23' today as I've pushed the urgency of upgrading due to the 4x4 being discontinued. I want to assess drivability. The whole acceleration lag (that I deal with on my 11') still seems to be an issue even with the newer 7spd transmission. I really like the idea of a truer 4x4 as I do venture off road in the west, but I'm tired of dealing with V6 lag/emissions issues. Maybe the AWD with improved drivability will win me over.
Thank you for your constructive information! It'll be interesting if the all wheel drive has the lag. Our son owns a gas Mercedes and there is no lag ever...
@@GayeNRobert No problem! Well, the test drive went well - but boy is it a tough call. Drivability, no question the 23'. No hesitation off the line, if anything the only thing I felt was the 9spd tranny moving through those lower gears. The new electric steering/AWD combo definately makes it feel more "car like". The 22' V6/7 spd combo ran well - though I still felt a slight hesitation off the line. 4WD v AWD? Not enough driving to know, but I managed to find a road that wasn not plowed - although driven through - and drove both through that short 1/2-1 mile. Both were certainly better than my 4x2 - even without snow tires. Driving the 22' certainly felt a bit more "truck like" with the hydraulic steering and typical, suttle whine of the transfer case/driveline. In short, 23' hands down for drivability. Smoother, good power, steering, and didn't feel any louder or overworked going 80 on the highway (I think it was running right around 2K RPM). So hard to know if the 4WD would give more off-road capability, but I can't imagine pushing a heavy, built out van, THAT much further into the backcountry (although its probably more capable than I would push it) - I already travel backcountry roads in the 4X2. I just don't know if the 4WD system (with a still questionable V6/EGR issue performance) is worth the tradeoff for the AWD drivability and at least a slight gain in winter/off road capability.
EDIT: And to be clear, the V6 still drove really well - 4WD not engaged for 95% of travel - its just that slight familiar hesistation tha reminded me of my 11'
When you can put the Koni shocks on the front set at the medium setting. Day and night compared to any other shock.
Vincent thank you so much for all the great info and for watching!!
Of all the new safety features on modern vehicles, the only ones I think are really good are the blind spot monitor/warning and backup camera.
Yup,all the other are more of a hazard waiting to explode, specially the auto braking, auto steering ones
Sorry. If you rely on those functions....you should not be driving. You lack basic skills.
I have a 2017. In 20,000 miles, the EGR has failed twice, the turbo resonator has come loose both resulting in many miles of limp mode. Now I’m starting to hear strange noises in the front suspension. I’m on my 3rd recall now too. I paid extra for the Sprinter, because what I wanted most was reliability. :-(
Yeah, I agree - paid extra for the Sprinter for the reliability. I love the Sprinter and would buy all over again BUT I wish everything was on par with the Mercedes name (at least what I thought).
Great vid!! Okay what year is your sprinter?
The most trustful review.
Thanks for your comment and watching - hope to share some knowledge that we've gained - good and bad. Thanks again.
Great review. I have sprinter 2006, converted to Rv myself and like very much, so I ordered 4x4 2021 and will convert to RV for retirement.
Hello! Awesome, congrats on your 2021 on order. I'm thinking the same thing in a few years, order another one to convert again. Loved the process and would always be nice to be driving a Sprinter under warranty. Thanks for your comment and hope your day is well.
We love our van as well and wouldn't trade it for anything else! It's so FUN to convert it into your own as well. Thank you for your comments and for watching it'll be fun to see you convert your 2021 van share pictures when you start.
@@GayeNRobert Thank you for respond. I am in process of building already while I am waiting for Sprinter. So far I a have built battery lifepo4 560ah 24v, solar system with 2 slide panels for total 1100w. Ac split LG, I separate compressor from outdoor unit so the condenser under the van(we see how will go) . Now I am working on galley All built is similar to80/20 but (Item america) with minimal wood (for weight limiting), instead honey comb from "item america". When I get a van I will start the thread in Sprinter-forum and post pictures. Have nice day.
You can see my 2006 built here: facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1973343732916022&type=3
Sounds Great! Enjoy the build - so fun to build and so fun to use!
Autel now has the AP200C that will allow a person to reset ABS-bleeding the system and Air Bags adjustment. Plugs into your OBDII. Easy
Vincent Awesome we will check it out! Thank you for the information and for watching!
I have a 21 chassis (22 motorhome). I complained to a colleage about the speaker issue and he pointed me to an easy fix that made a huge difference. You basically pop out the center dash speaker and remove the purple/black wires, leaving the white. Everything improves as without this, only the center speaker is on. Did not impact anything else. Search youtube for Mercedes sprinter speaker fix. I could not believe it. No tools needed at all.
Ken Rule thank you for the info, we will give it a go. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
Thanks for the info. It probably isn't a good one to have for someone that cannot do their own service.? There are issues with all the choices. Safe travels.
Hi Joanne, Thanks for your comment. Agreed, all choices have issues. I think just maintenance service is totally fine even if you can't do it yourself. Oil changes, fuel filter, etc can all be done by a local mechanic. Just like all dealers, if you take it in for service - it'll be expensive. The bigger issue is after warranty and you need a repair, etc - many times the mechanic needs a Mercedes diagnostic computer to reset codes etc - so then you are reliant on the MB dealer. If no issues after warranty (we have the 100k 5 years warranty), then really no problems finding normal service. Hope that answers your question. Like you stated, all choices have potential issues. Thanks again and have a great weekend!
My local Mercedes dealer in Reno kept mine for a six weeks (while never returning a phone call until I called Autonation corporate office and filed a complaint) to do an oil change, alignment, and software update…
That's completely wrong
Enjoyed watching your video. Do you prefer travelling / sleeping in the camper van, or staying in Airbnb’s / hotels?
Hello Philip! We prefer variety especially traveling! Hostels are our favorite because of the common areas and everyone is open to meeting other travels which we truly enjoy! However when we've done a world wind of traveling it's nice to come "home" to the van and have our bed, kitchen etc... Thank you for watching and having your comments!
Try using the Vin of the vehicle that came equipped with the part you want to order. You can get the Vin online .
Hi James - Great idea! Hadn't thought of that - that'll work. Thanks for your comment, appreciate it. Enjoy your Sunday
I have the same 4x4 Sprinter set up as yours. I have a question for you, if you don’t mind. Do you have quite a bit of gear noise or wining of the drivetrain at low and moderate speeds?
Hi Mike - In 4wd we might have some whining/slight noise as we drive but the same as we had on our previous F150 in 4wd. Nothing different. No whining or noise outside of 4wd. Hope this helps.
You can clear some codes using an ODBII tool. The real beast is the Star diagnosis but that is nothing for amateurs. You can order any part from the parts desk that came on a MB in your country. Either you look up the part number yourself or use a VIN of a vehicle with that extra. Mercedes Benz Canada has loaners I was told but I never bring my van for repairs. You should disconnect the negative terminal above the accelerator pedal and wait a bit before you mess with the airbag and restraining system.
Change the transmission oil more often than what the plan says.
Thank you so much for all the helpful information David! Appreciate it. Thank you for watching!! Have a great week!
Wow, I have always been a Promaster fan. Now granted they have their own issues, but at least it’s a gasser on a known Pentastar motor which is a universal motor for them. Parts, serviceability are huge with van ownership.
Thank you for leaving your comments. Have a great weekend.
What are your recalls? What was the DEF particulate filter issue ?
I would have the MAF checked for the hesitation you talk about. Some of the MAF original parts last for 50-60K miles and you notice that hesitation slowing for a street corner when you give it fuel half way through the corner-that lag where the motor misses a lick. Pay $80 for a V-6 MAF on line and put it in yourself.
Very interesting we are not aware of this we will look it up!!
So, I have the same year Chevy Express. I do live in Wyoming. I'm at 73k miles now. This van has been absolutely flawless! The only warranty with that's been done - GM didn't install the windshield correctly, and it cracked, and the heater control head, for blower speed broke. 5k oil changes, trans gets it a 40k interval. This 20k oil change is just stupid, at least for us city drivers. Great video though!
You can order parts online, so many choices even discounts
I highly recommend changing the oil more often. Use better oil and add a catch tank to keep the gunk out of the turbo. Mercedes recommends a gas engine oil instead of a diesel oil. All part of the emissions shenanigans. This is apparently why there are so many DPF issues. Plenty of info out there about it.
Thank you Rob for the info... We will check into that. Thank you for watching and having your comments.
I second the motion from Rob Hartman - oil changes at no more than 5k due to fuel dilution of the oil from excessive blow-by. Better oil is also a must but it could void your warranty if they have it tested after a major engine problem. Also, installation of a catch tank between PCV>turbo to prevent excessive oil getting into your turbo - this leads to all kinds of emission system problems not to mention clogging your turbo. My 2019 actually threw a rod at 5k due to the excessive blow-by problem pooling oil in the turbo intercooler and then sucking it into the engine! It's a know problem with a specific MB service bulletin issued for it. They currently have no fix for it but the catch tank will prevent this problem as well. Luckily, I got a new (remanufactured) engine under warranty (took 8 weeks) so I was able to do a proper break-in with diesel break-in oil - my blow-by is now minimal and it has better power compared to the original engine. Dealerships typically do not instruct buyers for proper break-in and the MB recommended oil doesn't really function well as a "break-in" oil. Most of the Sprinters out there have poor break-ins and lots of blow-by and will have emission problems sooner rather than later...
I also agree with the lackluster MB service, had plenty of those issues as well.
All that said, I do love driving my Sprinter but had I known of all these engine and service problems, I don't know that I would have bought one. It's a narrow line you should be walking to keep it in good running order and get a lot of service miles out of it. I had no idea, I thought it would be like the MB diesels of the 60-70s, the ones that last 1M miles - unfortunately, those days are gone.
@@59morris29 The MB manual states the oil rating requirements. You are not required to use MB oil. As long as the correct rating is used they can't deny coverage. Thats a federal law as well. If pressed the dealer will concede this point. Its questionable if the MB oil even meets the correct rating for a turbo diesel. Get ready for another recall. "Allegedly" they lost in court again in late 2021 and will be required to do another recall campaign. Requiring several parts to be replaced.
@@thisisanalias808 Hi Rob, glad you're pointing out the oil requirements subject, yes you are right. MB has a list of approved oils from other vendors, however it's difficult to ascertain exactly what the recommended formulation details are - I couldn't find anything specific they've published. Two issues to look at are fuel dilution and anti-wear components - diesels need "scattering" agents to keep the soot suspended that comes from the fuel dilution. Otherwise, the oil can start to gel, one of the main reasons to not go beyond 5k on an oil change. The other is the EP package in the oil - They've recommended away from zinc due to the amount of oil blow-by getting into the turbo and then the DPF. Zinc does not burn off during the regeneration process and thus ultimately spoils the filter. These engines are known for cam sprocket wear which a zinc additive oil would help prevent but there are none on their list of approved oils. By running a catch tank, zinc getting into the DPF would be minimized, thus eliminating the issue of running a zinc additive oil. Of course there are a lot more details in the subject matter of this conversation - didn't want this to get too long. I should also mention cylinder glazing, another issue with their recommended oils, this is one of the reasons for the excessive blow-by, which to your point suggests the questionable rating for a turbo diesel. I could expand more on that if anyone's interested, has to do with the oil's NOACK and HTHS ratings...
Wow! Sounds like you have "lucked" into the worst dealers for servicing your Sprinter. I'm one of the lucky ones that have had great experiences with my Mercedes-Benz dealer service. Although, I must say, even though I've had the vehicle for over a year and 20,000 miles, I only had it in for service twice. Once for the 20,000 mile service (I had done at about 17,000 miles) and some miscellaneous minor squawks and one other time for the recall on be electronic parking brake and some other minor squawks. I go to Mercedes-Benz of Cutler Bay in south Miami-Dade County, Florida. Like you, I really love driving the Sprinter 2500 144 WB 4x4 and would buy it again, for sure. As you indicate, it's not perfect, but on balance, it's quite good.
You're right it was just very unlucky service. This can come with any garage maintenance dealership customer service place. Thank you so much for watching and leaving your comments!
ok,,, i have a 2022 144 cargo with a v6 d. my check engine light has been on since delivery,. my dealer says its a sensor in the DEF exhaust system. its back ordered as well. this is keeping me from long range travel and im not pleased... have you known of or experienced this?
Boston Sam we have not heard of this. Must be very frustrating for you to have to stay in range of the dealer. Wishing you great adventures when you able to move onward. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
My 2019 4x4 diesel freightliner sprinter has lane assist and I don’t find it a problem. The warning sound can be a bit annoying but it doesn’t brake unless I really “charge” the line. And about the only time I’ve felt it brake was when I’ve been demonstrating to a friend how it works.
I’ve also left mine in 4WD because my driveway is gravel and very steep and in 2WD it wants to spin out after I stop for traffic. In summer it spins in the gravel and in winter it spins on ice. Unlike my F250, my sprinter doesn’t “grab” and “ratchet” on dry pavement when in 4WD.
All in all I love my sprinter but wish I didn’t have to drive it 350 miles to the dealer in Anchorage.
Sue that's awesome!! We still like Mercedes, like every vehicle there's some proud and cons. We like them so much we are ordering another one. Thank you for watching!!
I just bought one and hope I don't have all these issues, it would drive me nuts. I'm used to my Fords that never give me ANY headaches and the dealerships are great from S. California, Kingman, AZ, Texas Hill Country and Kansas CIty. Again I hope not to have so many many issues like this poor guy. Maybe it's a good thing that Sprinters have good resale because I won't put up with a headache camper van.
Hello Jean! Despite some of these issues we would definately keep it and are buying another Sprinter to rebuild as we speak. It's still a good quality vehicle with great resale value. Thank you for watching! Have a great weekend!
Have you heard of much of a difference with models after 2017? I heard they moved manufacturing from Germany to the States after 2017 and they have had way more issues. Also, if a used van seemed like a good deal, but didn't have a warranty, would the warranty purchase be a must?
we have heard exactly much about the differences after 2017... we feel extended warranties are good on a used van however you have to make sure of what it is covering
Interesting video! Can you provide some feedback on the adaptative cruise control. It does the job?
Hi Sylvain, we don't have adaptive cruise control on either of our Sprinters. Would be nice to have it it works as advertised. Have a great day
Thank you Sylvain for watching. We do not have adaptive cruise control. Thank you for you question. Have a great day.
How happy are you with the power of the engine?
Unplug the center speaker & just use the others ... it sounds 100% better when you do that... You will be so surprised.
I have also heard on many youtube videos to disconnect the centre speaker to get a huge improvement
boat or sprinter? since we plan on "roaming" the european land mass in the very near future, this is the question my wife and I always discuss. boat because we like european waterways. then there's the MB sprinter van. After much much discussions and deliberation, we think we are going with the van. Land vehicle, almost sure less to maintain vs boat and more economical to operate. Its relatively priced better than a boat we had in mind and basically year round use too, possible with a boat, but doubtful it will be fun in european winter unlike a van... maybe?!. Thank you for your insight. this video will help us further decide on with route to take... land or water...
Melly Many I agree with the dilemma for sure! We love being on the boat!!! However the van for us is more practical, versitile, etc... But we are not giving up our boat either! I would also love to be able to sail the world but don't have it in me...Wish you the best in your decision making let us know what you end up with.
What would you do if you were in the middle of nowhere and the diesel particulate filter screwed up and now you have 20 miles of off-road washes and trails before you get back to pavement? That's the stuff that has me wary of Sprinters. I don't know if Transits are any more reliable, but all that diesel non-sense (filters, DEF, etc.) kind of scare me. I'm going to be alone and remote when I do this. Nice video... Cheers!
Thank you Dusty for your comments. That can be concerning to break down in the middle of no where for sure. If possible don't let things like that stop you... Sprinters still are very reliable in our opinion. I would suggest and in reach for emergency back up regardless.... Anytime you are by yourself in remote areas, hiking, rafting, off roading this device can save your life. Thank you for watching!
@@GayeNRobert -- Thanks for your fast reply... I am so jealous of people living the life that I want to live. There is so much of America that I haven't seen and I am dying to see. I got a late start in life and at 60 y/o, in about 5 more years I intend to live the rest of my years in a van exploring the amazing U.S.A. I can't take anything with me when I die. Cheers!
Awesome! You have the right attitude!!!
17 to 18 miles per gallon is incredible for the shape and weight of that vehicle.
Yes it is! Makes it even a better option for us to have a van for the gas mileage. Thank you for watching!
@@GayeNRobert For interest I have a 2010 516 ambulance, so weighs around 4.5t and I get around 19.5 - 23.3 (highway) [U.S MPG] with the 2.1 twin turbo diesel.
My former company has a very large fleet of Sprinters, and they do have a fair amount of issues. In spite of that fact, they continue to order new ones. Lots of door hardware issues, DEF problems, etc. When we first got them, they were so unreliable that they were only assigned to locations close to Freightliner or MB. These were also marketed as Dodges in the early days too. And, yes, driving out of a tunnel into a strong crosswind is major pucker time. Sprinters are sort of the red haired stepchild of Mercedes. Still, way better than the ProMaster and the Transit isn't available in 4x4.
But, the Transit does have AWD... so, that's better than 2wd... And no weird diesel stuff to brake in the middle of nowhere.
@@DustyCowdog To the best of my knowledge, the Transit has aftermarket 4WD, not factory 4WD. It comes in both gas and diesel versions. The downside to aftermarket conversions is cost.
@@wallochdm1 awd now from factory ! Costs less and more power from the 3.5 turbo gas. I’m done w diesel and want to pass on merc dealer bs
What year and model is affected by the limp mode and self-braking properties?
Hi Ian not sure when they started the emergency braking but our 2019 had it. The limp home mode had been on the Sprinters probably starting in 2005. Have a nice weekend!
2000-2006 are the toughest sprinters. They've been good to me
Thank you for watching!
To reset srs warning disconnect the battery and it usually resets
Good morning Steven - unfortunately, that doesn't work with the Mercedes - at least the 2019 model. The older models you can buy a diagnostic tool to reset, but as of now there isn't a ODBC tool that'll reset that code. Apparently the ODBC makers need to "break" the Mercedes code in order to read the data. Sometimes, I miss the pre- everything computerized days - but also love what the computers can do you. Thanks for your comment and enjoy your day!
@@GayeNRobert mine was a 2016 and all the mechanics couldn’t resets it with the diagnostics
And I used to just unhook the battery and it went off
oh well I suppose I’m glad now I’ve ordered the factory swivel seat option for the new van new I’ve ordered thanks for the other info on video too 👍🏻
Congrats on your new Sprinter ordered. That's my thoughts in a few years order another one with the desired options. We found this one new on a local MB dealer lot but would have been nice to order the exact options desired.
Well since they start building sprinters in South Carolina the quality falls instantly. I have 6cyl 18 with 250k on it and it's ZERO issues at all, zero. I'm picking up next week new 170 with 4 cyl, wish me luck I will need it.
Hi Yevhen - congrats on your new 170! Would love to hear how you like the 4 cyl. I've heard good things about them. Is the 170 gas or diesel?
Thanks! The new one is diesel and the old one is diesel too. Just looking around and look how people have a hard time having new sprinters, I'm expecting the same actually. They producing sprinters in SC since 2018 but it's still a mess.
Awesome! Would love to hear your feedback on the 4cyl diesel. Maybe that'll be our next Sprinter order.
Can you put the transfer case in Neutral for flat towing on the 4x4 sprinter?
Hi Scott - no, as far as I know you can't flat tow a 4x4 Sprinter. If towed, Mercedes requires the drive shaft being unbolted. Would be a nice feature.
@@GayeNRobert Thanks. Can't seem to find a 4x4 cargo van that can be flat towed.
How does it compare to your 06? Did you have to take it to MB for any issues? I recently purchased a 2005 Airstream Interstate on an 04 T1N Sprinter. Did 5000 miles in 9 days and had no issues. I changed the engine oil and transmission fluid before we left. 126,000 on the van currently.
Good Morning - the 06 was less complicated with the pre-dpf. We had 115k miles on the 06 - needed a new transmission (probably related to the motorhome weight) - only $3k installed. We had other minor issues but overall it was great. I like having a new van with the new technology but the pre dpf definitely takes a lot of the complexity of the diesel away. Thanks for your comment and have a great day
@@GayeNRobert I've been wondering about the transmission. I'd like to flat tow my Jeep (#4K) but not sure if the transmission would like that.
Yeah, good question. My only thoughts was it was pretty inexpensive having a rebuilt transmission installed in our 06 - just $3k total. So, if it was me - I'd tow the Jeep - downside is not that bad from a cost standpoint. Our issue was the Winnebago View was quite heavy.
@@GayeNRobert I put the AI on the scale. #7740 the GVWR is #8550 so I have some cushion. However from the rear axle back there's about #700 so I think I may put some type of suspension helper on it. Thanks for your input.
The lane assist with the Toyota Camry XSE’s is absolutely horrible as well… And I don’t think it’s just the XSE’s. I just know that Toyota break in lane assist like you’re describing with Mercedes also does the same thing… It’s extremely dangerous, and I also turn it off
Emily it definately freaks you out when it happens out of the blue and almost makes you over correct!!! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
Thinking of getting a Sprinter to flat tow behind my motorhome
Awesome idea!! Then you can have smaller adventures and leave the motorhome behind! Thank you for watching!
@@GayeNRobert
I’d really like to be able to park it in normal parking spot
I need to take my club car golf cart
If I have a foldable rear seat - this would give better floor space on a 144 -
Do you know the usable floor space from rear doors to back of front seats
My seat squick the same way lol
That's funny!!!
I’ve never known anyone who drives with any consistency (private owner) with a Sprinter and has positive reviews. This would be owners of new and barley used. The conversation is always they are junk, I would gather it’s for a reason.
We still love the Sprinter... Just like with any make and model there's likes and dislikes. Thank you for comments and for watching!!
Красота хочу такую же👍👍👍👍👍
I just Did got my 2021 Sprinter 4x4. After first ride around farm I discovered that 4x4 is kind of joke. The power distribution instead of promissed 33% to front is more like 15%. I snow rear wheels spins and front wheels do not turn at all and rear slide off the road. Front kind of assist when driving on the road, but is useless even in deeper snow than couple of inches. Other issue is integrated frame, it is something like 2 mm thick. You cannot load all you see in campervans in this thin frame. So I am selling it and getting Iveco Daily 4x4 van. I am lucky that Sprinters sells in 1 hour now. Iveco Daily feels like Unimog compared to Sprinter and frame like railroad rail compared to 200l oil barrel metal on Sprinter. I haven't seen my present observations in any RUclips video. It looks like after spending 60k EUR + taxes on Sprinter people do not wish to say they are not happy with their new expensive toy. Actualy Toy is what comes in mind after seeing Sprinter underbody and driveterrain.
So the reason the back tires spin in snow/ice, the situation you describe... It is because this is a fully 'open transfer case.' You have 1/3 power to the front, 2/3 to the back, this is true. However with a open transfer case, and in slick situations like snow/ice, it will send all the power to the 1 wheel that has no traction! It is a weak system. Mostly sufficient for what the van is, and it's no F150.
Innteresting to read the comment. I just bought Sprinter 2021 (well, got it in 2022). I was kind of sorry that it´s not 4x4. After struggling on ice and snow at parking lot 3 times... But perhaps 4x4 is not much needed, if it doesnt really work.
Hello Oktowian our 4x4 totally works!! Emissions control is necessary and really have to look at it as a maintenance thing. You will love your van. Congratulations!
How did you build it in just six weeks? Do you have build videos?
We built it non stop working from dawn to dusk! Thank you for watching!
I’m getting the gas sprinter. I’m hoping that I won’t have issues like diesels have.
Congratulations!! I'm sure you won't there is no emissions controls on a gas. Thank you for watching and comment on our videos. Love the interaction.
Good video.
I can sense the honesty.
I agree with you, the main issues are coming from Mercedes costumer service, rather than the Sprinter.
On my personal experience, when I bought my 2007 Sprinter 3.0 NCV3, it was only my second diesel vehicle. I was not aware of all the things needed to take care with all those new systems of 2007.
Now a days, I read horror stories about Sprinter owners dealing with emissions systems and so on.
I kind of sense in here that most of this issues develop from the excess of technology Mercedes dumps into its vehicles, and the lack of knowledge from most owners regarding the new systems.
Like you say, out there is just no better van. Even with all it's issues.
There's no better van than a Sprinter.
I'm glad I'm still driving my 2007 Sprinter.
Not so complicated as the new versions.
It has just over 400 000 miles, and still running strong.
I wonder how long it will keep going. Some people say they pass the 600 000 miles.
I been able to tackle the infamous oil cooler gasket replacement job, by myself.
After that, the only problems I had is the dpf filter getting clogged.
This happens about every 150 000 miles. I use Molly dpf protector and believe it helps.
I know it's due for injectors service.
One thing I do is changing the oil and filter every 10 000 miles. I won't wait until 20 000 miles.
I also do transmission and differential service.
Now I feel confident and with more experience when working on her.
I love her.
I'm just another remodeling guy.
I'm not a lawyer or a doctor.
I got to watch my investment.
But when the time comes, I'll buy me another Sprinter.
I'm thankful somebody keeps building Sprinters. A tried and true van.
Sincerely,
Pedro
Pedro thank you so much for your response. Very thoughtful and informative. We also still enjoy our Sprinter and we are ordering a new one.
I know this is an older video, but you can absolutely get things that the vehicle didn’t come with from the factory. Whoever was giving you that information was wrong. I do almost all sprinter work at my dealer and have done it many time for costumers and I also added the code for if it did come like that from the factory. If you need some info shoot me a message!
The V6 Diesel engine is a monster. How good are they on the long run? Since they use AdBlue they can have more issues with the after treatment system, derate etc.
These vans are made in the US, they are a commercial vehicle so they will not be that luxurious, they are more spartan.
Regarding the dealership experience, just because you take it to Mercedes it doesn’t mean you’ll get good service. I prefer to do the work on my own cars, Mercedes wanted 800$ for a transmission oil change…. I did it myself.
DPF filter before 30.000 miles? What if you were in Alaska when that happened…these Diesel engines are not as good anymore… not just Mercedes… all Diesel engines that use DEF.
Hi Marcel - Good points - thanks for your comments!
I agree the cross wind assist needs to be disqualified from this van.
I hate how you cant control the steering wheel there for a second when this stupid thing activates.
It throws you into traffic then avoid traffic.
Mercedes what the HELL.
Ether fix this problem or do us all a favor and take this garbage off these vans.
the first 2 that you describe is non-sense(you can't trust a machine ), my 3500xd does it too and I am glad it will brake in the high winds, sometimes the rwd will get 24mpg but yours is 4x4
for me the big issue is driving at night and sometime the sprinter will just instantly brake by itself if there is a shadow on the road from any bridge because thinks that is a wall ahead or a car
Sounds like the vw crafter is the better van now. Maybe not available in USA.
Wilfred we saw them in our travels and they looked like a Sprinter van!! It would've been fun to get inside one. Thank you for watching and leaving your comments. Keep watching!!!
God I hate lane assist. I wish it would just stay off. As for loner cars I got a loner for my recall work that was done for a few days. Probly depends on the dealer. 🤷♂️
Hi Ghillieland, agreed, probably depends on the dealer for the loaner car. The 3 dealers we dealt with did not but good to hear others do. Yes! Totally wish we could keep the lane assist off. I love new technology but it gets scary at times when it shouldn't even activate. Oh wells, fairly easy to turn off I guess. Have a great day!
It is a misconception that German vehicles (especially Mercedes) are automatically high quality. My experience has been the exact opposite. The Germans tend to over-engineered and over-complicate everything and that leads to reliability problems. Also, the diesel emissions systems in the Sprinter is a maint nightmare. I plan to go with the 3.5 turbo Ford Transit when I'm ready to have my van built. Ford has their issues too, but at least there are Ford dealers everywhere so you will never have to wait for service and it will be 1/3 of the cost.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed, the Ford Transit would be much easier to deal with service for sure. Best wishes with your van build - we loved doing ours - can't wait to do another! Have a nice weekend.
overbuilt and complicated ww 2 panzer and tiger tanks awesome when not broken down. hmmm.....
@Radical Ed These days, I think vehicle longevity depends more on how well it's maintained than anything else. There are lots of 3.5 ecoboost engines on the road with over 300,000 miles on them. If meticulously maintained, they can last a long time...not as long as a diesel (excluding the diesel emissions system), but long enough to carry me thru the rest of my life.
“If a German engineer is stuck in a deep hole, & you throw him a ladder to climb out, he’ll fashion the ladder into a shovel, then tunnel his way out.”
And you'll need most of those ford dealers.
I am curious who/how the closed caption was produced. It only got a couple words right. It is quite absurd.
FYI: The AT&T hotspot did not stop working. Mercedes switched service to T-Mobile. If you want the internet access again, you will need to set it up with T-Mobile. Mercedes just forgot to make it a priority bulletin so neither owners nor service centers knew this happened. Also, AT&T was supposed to grandfather accounts but they didn't.
Thank you so much for that information! We were totally unaware of that. Makes sense why it happened. Thank you for watching jomiran 1000 and informing us!
Hahhaa... yeah I am lauging because on the German Autobahn I regularly do 130 mph in a Mercedes Metris, fully loaded. 186.000 miles and counting, no problems at all. Very satisfied, extremely comfortable ride. I would buy Mercedes again, any day, if I can get the money together again, that is. :)
Thank you for watching John! We do love the Mercedes. Thank you for leaving your comments! Happy New Year!
Apples and Oranges . That Metris is NOT a true cargo. I’m addition, I’m assuming it’s NOT diesel, correct?? Because that’s a night and day difference. I did 6 months in a Sprinter. I experienced the infamous “limp mode” twice. It’s a horrible feeling on a mountain road with little to no safe shoulder to pull over. I still like Sprinters , and hope that they will continue to correct these inherent issues. But the added costs in price per mile are real. One should enter a purchase of a Sprinter with that in mind.
@@cwheremonster8870 Well actually the "Metris" comes in 2 versions. There is the cargo version and the "passenger" version. The passenger version has much more comfortable suspension but it still is in the "commercial-vehicle" line of mercedes. That means it is actually not that well made, for instance the dashboard. Also, the seats are hard to remove. In Europe there is another version of the same chassis called the "v-class". That car is more like a minivan. It is much more luxurious, has the e-class like interior, individual removable seats instead of the short "commercial" seats in the front and the incredibly heavy benches in the back, better noise-insulation etc. The price difference is huge though. In the model years before around 2014 the difference between "metris" and "v-class" was much smaller. I would not buy the metris now, it is not comfortable enough. However, the v-class is so expensive, that I would think twice about buying that car.
It actually IS a diesel. Up until 2014 there was also a v6 gasoline engine. But in Europe gas is so expensive, that is not feasible if you drive a lot. The only thing I do regret is not buying an automatic transmission and the 6 cylinder version of the diesel, because that is a classic.
The Sprinter I would not buy at all, because that most definitely drives like a commercial van. I was a bit surprised to hear about the flawed "safety"-features, which would make the car do automatic stops. That sounds un-mercedes like. But if you need the space, why not buy the passenger version of the express van by Chevrolet? You get a huge V6 or V8 engine with plenty of power!
@John P thanks for the detailed information, brother. I really appreciate it. I always forget how vastly different the markets can be from one continent to the other. I hope you are safe and well in this new year.
My take: Ford just came up with the Sprinter killer, the Transit Trail. Good luck if u can get one, for the next 2 years, 23, 24. I would not get a turbo Gasser, if traveling international, the non turbo is easier to repair and service. Do not know if ford has an international waranty.
We Transit cult followera r waiting for the Transit Trail hybrid (it should be out in 2 years) ,
Thank for you feedback
What do you think of the ecoboost awd transit?
Good question Snake keeper we do not have enough knowledge on the Ecoboost awd. Thank you for the question and for watching!
You mean the ecoBOOM!, wouldn't touch that motor
@@SwingArmCity I have heard about smaller ecoboost screwing up. Do you have any specific knowledge of the 3.5 other than lolfordecoboom?
I ask because it would seem the 3.5 has already been put through the ringer on some other fords and still runnin good
Really like the van after renting for a trip but will probably won’t buy one.
Kris we still live the Sprinter vans, we are buying another to build out. Thank you for watching!
Toyota is the cream of the crop. In my opinion Mercedes’ is below average at best. It’s a bummer they’re so cool!I still might end up with one lol.
Hey Sean! We really enjoy like our Sprinter Van... Actually just purchased another to build out soon. I wouldn't let out review detour you from buying one. Hope you able to purchase anyone and begin your adventures. Thank you for your comments.
Can you get it serviced at Freightliner dealers?
Good question - not sure but definitely worth looking into the next time we need service. Thanks for the suggestion and enjoy your day!
@@GayeNRobert I am sure as they sell sprinters as well.
I am not sure if the Freighliner service centers cover all the in cabin gizmos but for sure drivetrain etc.
Martin thank you for the info!! And for watching and having your comments. Definately helpful.
I have a 2006 T1N sprinter with 206,000 mi.
It's the best truck I've owned.
You just need to maintain and repair them on your own.
Mercedes sucks as a company....
You are on your own.
R.I.P. 4x4 Sprinter. 2022 is the last model year.
Yes it's kinda disappointing really!!! Makes the 4x4 more valuable then! Have a great week!
Auto driving features are the reason why I would never consider buying one. They should really allow you to disable all of that. It's simply annoying and dangerous. Like the ground clearance. Shame Ford transit wasn't available with a lift and locking center and rear diffs. Thanks for the tips!
PW you are welcome and thank you for watching!
your hesitation is caused by clogged EGR valve. quick cleaning will take care of that
Yes we figured that out for sure, seemed to early for it. Thank you for watching!
I have two Tesla with the FSD beta roll out that is the car you need if you want to have FSD. If you buy a Tesla you wont have to worry about service either they never breakdown. Just think about getting on for you car if you own one.
Wow, so many negatives. Low fuel mileage too. Thankyou I won't bother considering one.
Despite the negatives in our video we still love our van! I wish you the best on finding yours.
cross wind assistance is the devil. im looking for a hack to bypass it. it can be turned off if you put it in dyno mode but then cruise control wont work. if you want a great service place in the philadelpia area, quality auto repair is the best place for hundreds of miles around
Pavel thank you so much for watching and leaving your comments. If we need service in Philly we'll look you up! Have a great weekend!
The only auto assist cruise I trust is my Tesla. Nothing, nothing comes close to it.
Hi Hsia - Agreed, Tesla definitely seems to have the best technology - seemingly so far ahead of all the other car manufacturers. Thanks for watching and hope your day is well.
Why were you doing 80mph in the first place that may have been the speed limit but there is no law that says you have to do that. In a Van such as the Sprinter you should definitely tone it down a little. Especially if you are towing anything obviously from behind. That’s mistake #1 😢 I totally agree with you about how well put together the MB Sprinter is and the Negatives are such that I find in my Toyota unfortunately. You were right on the money about that Van it’s widely considered the best Van all around for just about everything and you made a very good video! New Subscriber here 😀👍
Hello Ronald!! Love you feed back. Every model of vehicle can have it's issues and still love the MB Sprinter. Thank you for subscribing and leaving your comments!