The Producers - Two Tribes live (Trevor Horn, Stephen Lipson, Lol Créme, Ash Soan)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- So this is a bit special.
We were filming The Producers - a supergroup comprising of Trevor Horn, Lol Créme, Stephen Lipson and Ash Soan - when discussion turned to Frankie Goes To Hollywood's immortal Two Tribes, specifically whether Mark O'Toole of the band played the full, extremely difficult bassline live or not.
And then, these incredible men who have made some of the greatest pop records of all time played Two Tribes - the record they originally produced, engineered and played on. And here it is.
Blimey.
The Producers - Made In Basing Street is out on June 25.
PS. That's Julian Hinton on keyboard. Видеоклипы
To someone who's 56 and has several 12" mixes of the original from the 1980's, this is just an unbelievable treat. Puts a whole new perspective on my 20's and makes me think about the passing years. Trevor Horn - don't ever stop.
I remember those mixes. Every 3 weeks they came out with a new 12" mix and I was there buying them.
Same here. Got a few at home in Yorkshire.
This is a song that changed my view of life as a kid :)
You wrote this five years ago, and I'm now 58, so I feel like I know you. Saw them live 38 years ago. One of the most memorable concerts I've ever been to. Irvine Meadows 1985, Orange County, California. I was in the 10th row in the middle, and Frankie comes on for their encore. 'We want everyone to come closer," they say before they start the encore. So everybody obliges, me included. Instead of 10th row, I'm now third row standing on the arms of the chairs hanging on to my buddy Reuben when they start playing "Relax" again. Absolute chaos. People rushing the stage, jumping on stage. They finish the song, the band runs off the stage, they turn on the house lights and announce "Everybody go home." LMMFAO. Yeah, right. Band members were getting knocked over and swarmed, so I get stopping the concert, but Frankie was the one who told us to get closer. Not our fault.
please.. find the twelves inches mix album.. you will enjoy !
I'm surprised the walls didn't melt due to the amount of talent radiating through that room
Lol Crème alone!
The dude with the bass reminds me of someone I knew in the 80's. How the mind buggles....
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yes...Thomas Dolby..
I think its Dobley...
I'm here till Tuesday - try the fish....!
Yeah....but didnt he killed that Radio Star ???
Yes he was the guy from Dire Rates
Look, children….. REAL MUSICIANS !!!
not a computer keyboard to be seen !
@@yidarmy3916 Excuse me , there is a lot of computers going on btw!
Mr. Horn you are a genius.
SJaddy correct. He kinda exploited FGTH although there is no doubt his productions are immensely good. He lost his court case against Holly Johnson over it. ZTT really underpaid FGTH to maximise cashing in on Horn. That’s why if you go to I tunes and try to buy the long (best) version of welcome to the pleasuredome with the simply BREATHTAKING baseline, you cannot buy the single only the album. That’s not FGTH that’s all about ZTT music. So Horn enriches and adds his genius to it but he really ended up screwing them over. Horns wife was a businesswoman. Pretty ruthless by all accounts. Heartbreaking story of genius level talent clashing with someone else’s original idea. But the music was just incredible. To think it was all made around 1984 is pretty impressive. Frankie was an incredibly underrated band generally. And it was all over after 4 years. All I got told as a kid were they were gay. So I was t interested due to the uncool factor but my dad always said the bass lines in Frankie were another level. He was right.
@@brosephyolonarovichstalin2915 was it mark o'toole on bass? People said they used session musicians but that may have been jealousy, at the time it was cool to hate on FGTH
@@richardclarke376 On the recording, probably not. At one point Norman Watt Roy from the Blockheads recorded bass parts for the first FGTH album, but the end result was so heavily sampled, processed and buggered-about-with that who/what actually 'played' bass on the recording is uncertain. However, skip to 10m20s in this - ruclips.net/video/AbCEF4sYSiY/видео.html - for proof that M O'T is perfectly capable of playing it!
I second that!
That 5 string bass of Trevors has an amazing sound!
Playing with a plectrum definitely helps
Carruthers bass
Just what I was thinking
My cheap Ibanez would probably sound amazing in his hands too :D
Probably brand new strings. Even my relatively cheapo Sire 5 string bass sounds great with new strings. ANd probably other pretty good outboard gear, too.
For anyone my age this was iconic, Frankie were truly unique ... 😎
Now you know who masterminded it
@@graemeraw8894
Yeah.
Paul Morley.
They did this at Cornbury Festival (Oxfordshire about 2016) and it was amazing. They then brought out Seal (he was brilliant) and Stuart Copeland (The Police drummer - OMG!) - the best two hours I've ever had at a festival. They finished on Relax!! Wonderful, wonderful! Will never, ever forget that Saturday afternoon at 2.45pm!!!
They did, I was there. But, Seal didn't sing the FGTH songs because he didn't wanna sing about gay sex I presume, Ryan Molloy did, who'd done the Frankie reform gig. He did an ace job.
How the guy on shaker can keep such flawless timing to that rhythm I don't know.
Exactly what i was thinking.
It's a robot arm
How do you know a drummer is at your door?
The knocking speeds up !
He gets a rest at 2:40
i can manage about 5 minutes shaking my wrist and
thats after years of practice
Love finding nuggets like these on RUclips. Some unbelievable talent here
Your right there pal😊🤘
He is, and always will be, the Absolute Master. His sound defined a decade and still resonates to this day. You always know when you're listening to a Trevor Horn choon!
listen to "videoteque by dollar" its an underrated belter... got some fairlight loveliness and superb old sampling...
ruclips.net/video/wjS_zZw_bc4/видео.html
@@MacStoker 'Videoteque' is solid gold Trevor Horn. Always a favourite of mine.
Trevor Horn. What a talent. So underrated.
Hahahaha, Trevor Horn is and was never underrated my friend because he's one of the biggest and best producers and musicians this planet has ever seen.
He is a music God!
video killed the radio star wasn't really underrated though
More talented than the band that faked it.
Here it is the ubiquitous _"underrated"_ comment on every You Tube video...
Wish i’d put a £ to the side for everytime i came back to watch and listen to this. Pure artistry!
Same! Artistry and I think alchemy. Oh to see some musicians playing live.
Stumbled on something absolutely priceless.... WOW!!!
I have the original Fairlight sequence which I found when I acquired Alan Parsons' Fairlight Series IIx around 1987. It consisted of just the bass and drum tracks, but was a superb piece of programming.
That’s a fabulous bass sound from Trevor Horn - the original producer of Two Tribes - Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Horn made some great music ! The Power Of Love - is a masterpiece. Cheers 🥂
If I could play like that I wouldn't go out at night 👍👍
I like this very much. Only 9 years too late! lol
Wonderful piece of music.
Good to see Lol Creme is still alive and well. Always been a big 10CC fan
Can't get that bass out of my head. I've been humming it for days now. One of my great memories of the 80's.
Don't you just love the sound of a bass guitar!!!
yes.great sound,the foundation of any band.
Yep. Why I've been playing bass for 10 years..
@@Neodude991 good.
the godlike Bass guitar
I play 4 instruments...people are baffled when I say bass is my favorite.
Lol Créme's grin is infectious, what a great sound they make. Thanks for the upload!
So much talent in one room - I'm astonished that the walls didn't melt.
There are some things that are so good in life, no one can change the fact that you heard them. I'm going to be grinning all week
So so glad to see lol creme again from 10cc fame.
all this talent here just UN GODLEY!!
Every time I see him I get angry. Mix the artistic ideas from the next three Godley & Creme albums after separation with the lushness of the next three 10cc releases... it it it ... noooooo
Lol Creme is my hero
He's the one "radio kill radio s.."
Fucking brilliant, gentlemen! I saw Frankie in 1985 at Irvine Meadows in Orange County, California, and it was one of the greatest concerts I ever went to (and I was at the Depeche Mode 101 concert in 1988 at the Rose Bowl). Thank you for your contribution to the enjoyment of a great band.
the 12" version (annihalation) is still one of my favourite tunes, as is 12" of relax so i wouldn't take anything away from Trevor but for Two Tribes every single musical element (chords, melody, arrangement including all the main riffs, rhythm/tempo, lyrics) are all there, unarguably, in that 1982 recording of it. Trevor, along with possibly as much input from Steve Lipson, used the most expensive musical equipment on the go for their input, and Trevor acknowledges the power of the raw product.
Absolutely. Not sure what they remember but the bass line on the Peel session (before Trevor had heard of them) has the bass playing the riff exactly as they copied it for the record albeit on a 4-string bass. ruclips.net/video/NJfhRun7394/видео.html
Carnage!
Without a shadow of a doubt the second best produced single in musical history.
Welcome to the Pleasuredome was the first.
in your opinion
@@coolhand1966 refute it.
Why am I just seeing this in 2024? Had no idea this even existed. 😢
How music should be enjoyed! Love that Lol smile. Always my favourite he just had fun😎
Killer bass sound!
Trevor Horn and Lol Creme what a combo!
Amazing. Trever Horn an awesome talent.
Can't imagine One Direction doing something like this in 30 years time....
Nor Frankie... :)
It might have looked easy but the thing that impressed me most from this performance of musical geniuses, was the guy on the shaker. Man, his timing was like a drum machine - every beat right on!
Wow- just wow! This sounds sensational!! Takes me back….
Love that RUclips throws up suggestions like this. Old man rockers live jam showing everyone else how to do it. So great to see Lol Creme in action, and Trevor Horn on the bass is genius, but how do you keep that bloody shaker going so perfectly?? Brilliant!
Wow. Thank you for the music Mr Horn. I’d never heard of you until I saw Video Killed the Radio Star....and then you suddenly appear as a member of my favourite Prog Rock band Yes and my eyes were opened. Saw you with Yes a couple of years or so back with Yes again in the Albert Hall. Brilliant.
A nice little fun fact: Video killed the radio star was the very first video on MTV.
And when you want to know what a superb perfectionist Trevor Horn is, then watch this: ruclips.net/video/Zm0QQDMoRPU/видео.html
83/84? I played the 12" version in my bedroom, turned up to 11 with the window open. Still have it. Starts with the air raid warning. :-)
My mum ran in from the back garden, straight upstairs and though WWIII was about to happen. When she realised it was my record, she went f-ing mental at me!
Then you see these musicians really, really enjoying themselves (and not Frankie goes to HW), and I just know it was worth the unitentional bollocking back then.
I'll send her a link to this as it's sort of happy and brilliant music.
Classic! She must have been totally petrified!
My brother did similar thing with Billy Joel's Glasshouses (sound of smashing glass). Likewise my Dad went bananas. The 1980s and all the memories... 🤣😭 FgtH were just phenomenal - I was in the sixth form when this came out. think I'll get out both albums today - but not turn up to 11 - neighbours and all that grown-up stuff...
Love this so much.
how can anyone there think this would become a classic hit?
So cool seeing the old geezers creating a badass sound and music for a generation decades younger than they.
A small hint look who produced FGTH
Killer bass sound!
How the guy on shaker can keep such flawless timing to that rhythm I don't know.
“Show him how it must be done.” Wow does he ever!
Trevor Horn : The Master of epic sound production.
that coda at 2:30 is always so hopeful and euphoric and in context provokes the jingoism the lyric then confirms. " TELL THE WORLD THAT YOU'RE WINNING". ir's a bit beatles in India too, right?
Norman Watt Roy from the Blockheads. did do the bass line to Relax with the rest of the Blockheads. Whilst demoing the song, they were jamming hence the Two Tribes song.
Wowza completely mind blowing I saw FGTH live at Newcastle City Hall in 1985 and two tribes has always been a massive favourite of mine and to see this video gives me goosebumps, Trevor Horn you are a genius!
Absolutely fantastic. Gives me goosebumps every time I hear this. Fabulous musicians.
Wow! stripped back with Trevors massive bass,, Superb!!!!!
Trevor Horn is a true music genius (the others aren't too shabby either) who has been behind so many great tunes from YES to Frankie Goes To Hollywood, The Buggles and t.A.T.u.
I had this stupid smile on my face listening/watching this took me back...
Mid '80's, Melbourne, Chapel St., Central Station Records. So many vinyl EP remixes of Two Tribes it was hard to keep up. But fun trying. Pure marketing brilliance by ZTT label, which released the song.
It is the likes of Trance & Dance these days but thank you Trevor Horn et al. for the awesome toons.
Pablo Escobar t.a.T.u ?
excellent !!
2023+ tribes are coming back !
Trevor Horn, respect for the best producer ever…I love every record he produced, his signature is always recognizable ❤❤
What Trevor did to it in the studio with the synclavier, ppg and fairlight is what Two Tribes is made of. Without Trevor there would be no Two Tribes. So maybe this was Mark's and Holly's raw idea...but it's Trevor's song.
Have a listen to the demo versions here on youtube. They are structurally identical to the finished versions.
I think that's a terribly myopic perspective to take on the creative process. Horn as a wunderbar Producer makes music BETTER, but he has trouble coming up with original concepts and ideas. There's just as much to be said for the people who make original concepts and ideas as the people who polish them into shiny finished pieces. To give only one part of the creative process credit is unbalanced at best, and tragically inaccurate at worst. If Trevor Horn were such a creative musical genius, he wouldn't have signed dozens of bands to come up with original concepts and themes, he would have just been a one-man band and done it all himself.
@@tomstickland But totally laughable compared to the finished version.
Your romantic fantasy regarding the production is cute but completely misguided
Utter nonsense
The Peel Session version has the full version of the song but raw
Horn polished it up as he does
ZTT made brilliant versions of the song
trevor horn and those guys ....super talent!!!
Back in the day, when artists actually knew how to play instruments, this was known as a jam session. Sweet impromptu instrumental.
Will you shut up? People can still play instruments now
Except Frankie Goes to Hollywood
😆
@@deletebilderberg Well we all know they could play their instruments, Horn and the group made several versions of their first single, "Relax". Eventually, Horn created a dramatically different arrangement without the band, using electronic instruments such as a drum machines along with a live kit and the Fairlight, an early sampling synthesiser + then with guitars etc....
But on the 2nd album Liverpool, they all played their instruments on the record which is common knowledge!
Nice to see musicians that go ahead and just embrace their inner grandpa.
if you love frankie goes to hollywood as i do ,norman watt roy was a huge input on the bass lines on the hit singles ...finest bassist in the uk x
Just found this,absolutely brilliant 👍🤘❤
Great stuff.
Trevor Horn was always a shit hot bass player. He was just more famous for producing.
For sure, one of the best.
"You rely on luck for that one!" cracked me up, as if any of these dudes ever had to rely on that to pull out such fantastic music.
i thought he had said "relied on electricity for that one"...
Pure gold! What an amazing video, thanks x
Great great sound
Never expected to see such musicianship from producers. Excellent.
Stunning, no other word for it. Well, maybe mesmerising...
Real Supergroup! Famous artists!Their first album is perfect!
This is not popmusic, this becomes classical music!
Wow, so simple, yet so effective. It's all about choosing the right chords, isn't it?
And great to see Lol Creme in this company 🔟©️©️
Chills - can't beat the 80s 😊
I heard this on the wireless back in '84,ooh a hoo,it was fantastic
4 blokes you would love to have a pint with. Amazing musicians.
brilliant - no other words needed! ...
♥️🇬🇧😀breathtaking. I'll never forget the ending to the fim supergrass with Robbie...
How did this not become more popular earlier, just amazing
brilliant Musicians, genius Trevor Horn
In the studio for 90125,and Big Generator total genius and all round Nice guy. ❤️
Oh wow!Trevor Horn is one of my fave bass players, but I've never seen him play!
The best winning war song in the world 🌎 ever, having said that there are no winner's in any war. This gem 💎 of a tune hits the spot everytime. Incredible decades later. 🙏❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️🙏 March twenty three
Utterly fantastic !!!!!! Not many people understand that the finished song that takes the world by storm is the skill and talents of the producers who cut, chop, rearrange and change sounds etc to make the finished product we know. Such unsung Hero's
Mature musicians who can actually play , having a jam , Warm' s my heart . The so called chart "topping " garbage of today should pay attention .
Holy wow what is this? So glad I stumbled on it. Fantastic!!!
Oh God! I have gone to heaven! TH has and will always be one of the best Bass players ever, up there with Harris, Miller, Claypool, et al. Thank you for posting.
norman watt roy wrote the bass line
@@johnny0468 Er....no
Frankie Goes To Hollywood, taken from the Peel Session recorded on 24 November 1982
ruclips.net/video/UUGhWT8JOgo/видео.html
This is top class musicianship, with a masterful performance on bass from old Horny. Would love to see more.
Excellent! God bless musicians like these guys!
A giudicare dalle sue collaborazioni/produzioni, reputo Trevor Horne, senza dubbio, un genio dell epoca.
Pure gorgeousness, and cute to see Lol enjoying his 10cc's worth with this exquisite rendition.
Still such an intoxicating driving rhythm!
The only guy to share the bass chair on a Yes record while Chris Squire was still living (as far as I know). Oh, the other guys sound decent too.
Horn, Lipson, Creme ! Master musicians xx
Great Great job Mr Producers ! Keep still making beautiful things !
So ridiculously good, I could listen to that bassline forever
You probably already know this, but just in case ... ruclips.net/video/AbCEF4sYSiY/видео.html 🙂
ruclips.net/video/aKy5xl44dRI/видео.html
Well Trevor is from sunderland and is a superb musician who has produced many artists with a difinitave. Sound that will stand the test of time ,he is a superb musician and composer, producer .
Great sound. Could hear it all day long...
Now that is a monster bass sound... and a monster lineup!
So good ! Goosebumps 'n wet eyes.
This is brilliant
What great players! But the shaker is the hardest job...
Unbelievable but this spring 2023 Trevor Horn is touring with his band The Buggles live on different stages acrossing the USA while today May 7th 2023 his famous and unique "child" the bombast rock band "Frankie goes to Hollywood" had their first live concert after 36 years in Liverpool! Welcome BACK to the pleasuredome!
Trevor Horn! What a bass-hero!
Fantabulous, of course, but how much fun is Lol Créme having! So joyous to watch.
Why haven't I seen this until now? This made my day!