Latest MRP poll shows 'seismic destruction' of Tory Party | LBC analysis
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- 'The outcome of the election was determined in Autumn 2022.'
Tory peer Philip Hammond tells Andrew Marr that Liz Truss' government was the 'final straw' for the public.
A groundbreaking General Election poll indicates that on July 4, the Conservative Party could fall to third place behind the Liberal Democrats, resulting in a major defeat that would leave them unable to form the official opposition in Parliament.
According to a survey of 20,000 voters conducted by Find Out Now and Electoral Calculus, the Tories are projected to drop to just 60 seats, a decrease of 305 seats from their 2019 results.
Andrew Marr speaks to Tory peer Philip Hammond about the performance of his party.
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Wasn't Mr Hammond part of the last decade of Tory austerity?
Yes
@@jasoncooper9391Repeat: why is this privileged ponce a Lord?
@ivor Or balancing the books...anyway keep the red flag flying!
@@chatham43 3 Trillion in debt 😃😃
@user-rk9it9hz6g do your research 😃😃 the Tories are finished they have been in power for 14 years and wrecked the country
Hammond applauds the Labour Party acknowledging growth is important. But doesn't acknowledge we had twelve years of solid growth under a Labour government, and nearly F.A. under the subsequent 14 years of Tory rule. Which party has really understood that growth is important, Hammond? The one that delivered when in power, or the one that didn't?
It turns out the austerity for the masses but hand outs for the rich / trickle down economics didn't really work for growth at all huh! ;)
@@dddddbbb Even boring Biden has got that right!!!!!
Er...the one that didn't?
@@dddddbbbOddly Reagan and Thatcher proved that trickle down economic policies would never work.
@@ArtyFactual_IntelligenceApparently the American debt pile stands at over $33 trillion.
They lost faith because of Boris Johnson and Rishi Snake.
But not Truss? 🤨
@@ScottishJazzmanAnd "lettuce" liz.
Boris Johnson had the world at his feet, but could not control a bickering Conservative party hence the brand became ruined. To be a little bit fair to Rishi Sunak, he took over a very rotten barrel of apples. Though RIshi had 18 months to try to fix it, he was a lame duck, and was never going to be strong enough to stand up to the civil service for fear of being called a bully. So he was never going to have much of a chance.
You watch, the similar will happen with Labour given the size of the expected majority. Sadly we will have them for 5-10 years.
And, you know, the reality of the last 14 years making all our lives worse except the most well-off, whose wealth grew.
@@ScottishJazzman truss came after.
Growth? 40 consecutive quarters of uninterrupted growth under Blair. Austerity followed by chaos and stagnation under Tories.
In reality the whole world went through a technological and economic boom during the early 90's mainly due to the internet explosion - it didnt matter what type of government developed countries had (left, centre or right) all did well economically. John Major would have most likely the same results.
It was a direct comparison to the Corbyn led Labour Party.
Yea but apparently Labour bankrupt the country and everyone believed it 🙄
Spot on my friend vote labour
Seem to recall the bank crash which caused austerity was under labour, Blair and brown.
Every leader these clowns have had has been a hopeless puppet.
How condescending, especially as Labour Govts have presided over better growth and lower deficits, more public investments than seen under Conservative Govts.
you have a short memory and that’s not true
@@inthecanman provide some stats comparing Blair/Brown to Cameron - Sunak
@@youtubewatcher2 why? Don’t you remember the “there’s no money left”note? When Thatcher came into power after the previous Labour government we had been to the IMF to borrow money
@@inthecanman last 30 years mate. You can adore the Maggie all you want. She has no more to do with modern Tories than Reagn has to do with Trumpian GOP.
@@youtubewatcher2
You are probably a corbyn supporter
Hammond would never admit that the tories were terrible, no excuses .
Total deniability .... The one thing that the Tories all have in common....
Center right, they have no center right! Hes deluded 😂
I think the centre right mostly works in podcasting these days; not many of them actually working as MP's any more (since the Johnson purge in 2019)
And the interest on the National Borrowing, which the Tories have managed to treble during their 14 years, is fast becoming a significant slice of the pie chart of government expenditure.
@breamoreboy it's certainly not going to be a beneficial factor.
@breamoreboy I believe so. Labour regaining some financial propriety for the country may help us to get a better credit rating, especially if they can rebuild EU trade, which I think they will. As soon as we stop looking like a basket case 3rd world country, better credit rating = more cash freed up for infrastructure etc.
So the failing Tories want to tell us when the failing started?.
In started in 2010 .
It started in 1979!
maggie really. bringing in neo liberal economics.
It stsrtrd in 2008 with the GFC. And not a single banker jailed. They distract us with woke capitalism because the OCCUPY movement was the right direction of travel.
@john So only Labour to go...and finally this country might get somewhere.😊
@@kevin9sc No, it started in 1979 with Margaret Thacher, but you're probably too young to know that.
Not a single challenge to anything he said!
To be fair it was more of a conversation about his opinions than an interrogation of a standard party hack.
@@KevinMeeds yeah, but it included claims about higher taxes under Labour from a representative of a party who has given us the highest tax burden in living memory
@@Human_Herbivore True but I was more interested in what was drawn out of him about how disgraceful and disgustingly unfit for office Johnson was.
@@KevinMeeds OK, I just get frustrated at the lack of challenges which means more and more people hear it and, as we well know, critical thinking is less in use these days.
Agreed
another posh toff...who doesnt understand how it is for a working person. GET THESE OUT OF POWER!!!!
Hammond failed us and he definitely is no sage
The tories are bad for growth
The Tories brought in austerity to balance the books and have nigh on tripled the deficit, tanked public services and never balance one single year. Tax burden is the highest in a generation and he has the cheek to say Labour will increase taxes and borrow, at least it will go to fix services and not into the pockets friends, family and buying a lords seat...
Smart. Blame it on someone else, thereby exonerating yourself. Nobody’s buying it though Phil. You did this
Austerity and brexit have got us into this mess !!!!
Hang on - Brexit, Boris, Cameron, May, Truss, in fighting, for their own issues, NI Protocol etc, etc - between them they have made the world look on in disbelief - hopefully, whoever succeeds them will regain some credibility and will put the interests of the Nation before petty personal interests.
It'll go better because the taxes will go towards public services rather than donors, millionaires and billionaires.
I can assure you it was not Liz Truss.
I think you will find that was the end of the Tory’s ,the rot had set in before yes ,but she killed them off
What nobody seems to talk about is that 'the centre' has shifted way to the right in the last 40 years and everything is worse.
You must be joking - the tories have shifted so far to the left they are almost holding hands with the far left within the Labour Party!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youre joking, if it had done what you think we wouldnt have uncontrolled mass immigration would we, get a clue.
😂
What was worse under Blair?
I dont think it has over all but it maybe has in terms of those who will actually most likely bother to vote
The big lie is the growth isn't for the common person. The growth will be for those who already have everything.
Growth = for the well off
Redistribution = for the ripped off
If we don’t grow in line with inflation , we don’t generate enough tax to cover the extra costs of things like the NHS.,
That’s we are now.
Higher rates of tax , or lower quality of services .
@@johnrussell3961from whom? Are we seriously saying there has been no growth for the 1%?
@@timaustin2000 . I never said no growth. I said growth is lagging behind inflation.
Growth is just growth; it can benefit either, depends on where the growth actually is (small business vs. Stocks and Shares)
Another reference to a think tank with dubious funding. IFS or IPA, they’re all ambiguous and seem to always fall on not taxing the rich… wonder why?
IFS isn’t one though, they are literally in a building next to my Uni and actually do reports that stop crazy policy’s like when the Osborn tried to cut £4bn in tax credit that would hit poor people the hardest.
Thank you for that. Yes, the IFS is a notorious rightwing think tank so I'm surprised it is being treated as the gospel here
So you're not rich.
@@chatham43 very well off and happy to be taxed more.
Hammond says Labour bash producers. Seems he's unfamiliar with corporation tax history.
Why do you need a centre-right Tory party when you've got a centre-right Labour party?
Lord Hammond for what Failure.£300 a session for sleeping in the House of Lords.
The wealthiest households are now paying half the tax they did in the 50's,60's and 70's.. it's funny how that doesn't get mentioned either..
Vote Labour vote Tories out .
Vote Reform,Labour and Conservative out..
@@hollytalbot6695 lol. yeah swapping one rich boy right wing chancer for another, what a change eh? farage said he wants to be tory leader FFS.
Vote tactically, push the Tories into 3rd place.
Vote Reform uk
Get um gone
End of chat
Labour essentially Tories now. You need to be what you USED TO BE.
David Cameron fought the election in 2010 on centralist issues....... then immediately went forwards with austerity when elected. This continued through the years with little to no growth, suppression of wages for NHS workers and public servants. Now we have the situation that trained nurses and doctors are leaving for Australia, Dubai and other countries where their skills are better paid for and working conditions make the NHS look like a workhouse. Public services are one their knees, councils going bust led by both main parties..... the result of cutting further and further government money to local authorities. Along with the broken services etc we now have the highest taxes since end of WW2...... 14 years of conservative rule has been a disaster for many.
Nobody seems to have thought of taxing the people with money
Anything labour say will be lied about or taken by the torys as they said it first by the tory press , lying to the public in or out of the house of Parliament MUST BE PUNISHED BY LAW.
He seems to actually be clear sighted and know what he's talking about. I wonder if he was a better chancellor than I thought or if it's just because he's free to say what he actually knows now
Most politicians are far more interesting when they are out of the game and not subject to the whips anymore; that's when you might actually get the truth
Now he's got a job for life in the HoL, he can say what he wants, be's still a tory underneath.
He sounds convincing but some of his ideas have been refuted for many years now. The suggestion that workers rights is anti growth is incorrect, think about the strongest economies in Europe; Finland, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Germany - what do they all have? Extremely strong workers rights.
@@louisboylan7623 Don't forget Ireland with the highest GDP per capita in the EU.
Andrew, you consider yourself a journalist, why don’t you ever mention anything about political corruption, why don’t you mention anything about politicians taking BRIBES. why don’t you ever talk about the disaster we are facing in our supposedly democratic country because of corrupt politicians. Why don’t you ever mention the organisations who are bribing the Tories and now the Labour politicians. DO IT, SAY IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE COUNTRY. IF YOU DON’T, YOURE ALSO COMPLICIT IN THE CORRUPTION AND DESTRUCTION OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY. BE BRAVE AND DECENT ANDREW.
7:25 the tory tells us what the man on the streets wants - rising pay, better public service etc. He must have forgot to tell the Govt that.
From Pitt to Sunak...all to blame 100%.
Reform party hits 13% ahead off conservatives and 7% ahead off Labour . Go Nigel Farage Go
Calls for closer cooperation with Europe. If only there were some multi country organisation...
Was nothing to do with Liz Truss. Was all to do with Johnson.
How about inviting an impartial guest on the program to critique Labour. This is why people don't trust the media.
Agreed
You have not watched enough. they do.
About time. Go on the rags, Sky, even BBC and you won't find much willpower to critique the Tories by the Kuenssburgs et al.
No he does not know or see the British man on the street who’s way of life is being attacked
Tories all still blaming each other
Think he's been isolated in the HoL. Also he was chancellor under May and I don't recall any moves on productivity or the flat lining economy...lots of revisionism.imo
No interest in the woman on the street - out of date in classic Tory fashion
Phillip Hammond should suggest all Tories ( including himself) stop using the word PLAN! Rishi has made the word a joke to hear.
People lost faith watching the steady daily stream of boats crossing the Channel. I remember Boris saying "vote for Brexit and take back control of our borders" liar?.
If the Red Wall is shifting position we need to hear from 'Workington Man'.
Independents .
To propose tax cuts when public services have been cut to the bone is not only irresponsible, but shows total disrespect for the public.
Lord Hammond telling us how things should be done lol
This Man always speaking Sense
The past 10 years have seen a MASSIVE upward movement of wealth. There is literally one way for that wealth to come back down and that is taxation on the vastly wealthy.
So I should accept the advise of the numpty who claimed we would be able to trade in the Single Market after Brexit.
zero seats, zero seats, zero seats
How many people died from covid alone ? The reason people dont like the tories is because of that, loopy liz made matter worse money wise but sunak has constantly done what boris did and lied and lied and lied. Then we had nadine that thought she was entitled to be in the house of lords and that owen woman (Boris's child ?) got put in. And that covid party king bailey. Johnson is the main reason
Don’t give overpaid MPs £4.000 pay Rises,there not worth it,give it too the NHS
Money come workers and labour not of trees. Capital is stolen from the real producer of wealth. The worker.
Just as balanced as you'd expect from a Tory who believes in cutting things
Claw back all the money the torys stole...gave to their mates and wasted then tax the rich and corperations more....simples !!!!
The policy that dare not speak its name - raising taxes on the rich, corporations, financial services and capital gains.
I crossed the bridge and left the Tories because of Johnson. Their support for Truss burnt that bridge down ….. there is no way back for me possibly ever but at least until all Tory ministers are replaced
How can it be a creditable centre right opposition, when any remaining MP's are either raving Brexiters or at least sworn to maintain it.
The Green party are honest about this. You might not like their message but they say if you want better state institution then we need a larger amount of tax and a fairer tax syatem to tax the higher earners and not only tax income at 30% plus and then capital at 10%>. That we need controlled immigration to vave enough workers and the problem is integration not just closing the borders. Plus that climate change is costing us and will continue to cost us in production of food and abikity to heat and cool our homes. That actually talk about stopping Right to buy to ensure that councils have first access to social housing. They are the only party being honest.
We are all Voting Green in Norwich. ❎❎❎ I think Starmer will lose the election.
The problem is either both sides reveal their full hands or neither do. There's no guarantee that, as soon as one party is fully transparent about their plans, the other won't just keep theirs hidden and then scare people with their opponent's policies.
See…the problem is there is an effective opposition …. They’ll be in charge in a week ….
you cant be effective when tories have a huge majority
Tories did so bad they're bringing in the Nazis to clean up the mess
Hammond lauded Liz Truss not so long ago, telling people not to underestimate her ability. How he's changed his tune.
The Conservative government has had 13 years to get it right, and look at the condition of the NHS and the economy it's all going down hill. It's time for a new Labour government
most sane people never had faith in the tories in the 1st place.
The cringe in having to call someone a "Lord" 😅 "Here's recognition for when your ancesters pillaged for their boss, the top gangster in the land at the time".
Many of us lost faith long before Truss was ever a thing.
Tax working people less the more hours they work....up goes productivity !!
7:25 - Phil's 'The-Man-on-the-British-Street-Looking-After-His-Family' worldview tells you quite a lot about where these people are and where they would like to go back to.
Hammond must think we're all idiots ! Liz Truss was set up to fail... because she wasn't one of the "One nation Tories", she was selected by grassroots members who are true Conservatives... Hammond was a key player in the One Nation Tories.
@5:39+approx Hammond says "get close to the centre and you get support" Dennis Skinner famously said " ...get on the left of the road AND KEEP ON GOING STRAIGHT DOWN THAT ROAD AND DON'T YOU STOP!" Miss that guy a lot
Lizz has done huge damage to the tory And Labour is sailing on it
Nigel Farage is our choice considering presant situation and Mood of the country because of islamist
The tories' ability to deny reality verges on being a new religion. There has been no growth throughout this man's entire tenure, just overvaluation of traded property. When he talks about purchasing power being more important to people than immigration, he's really saying the british standard of living depends entirely on cheap imported labour, not investment or training or british people doing any work.
Growth has limits. That's the biggest issue that no-one is addressing. The planet has literally been squeezed dry, and the consequences have already started to show, but they are going to be devastating. No amount of economic growth is going to help us then.
Ritchiei Sunak the "government integrity, professionalism and accountabilityl" man - and liar.
Liz was great. She actually gave me hope for the future. The markets and civil servants messed things up
He's soon changed his tune.
Lord hammond stopped being chancellor in 2019. Its hard to see him now, 5 years later raising alarm bells about the finances of the country as anything other than partisan polotics. If he cared hed have been talking about this years ago.
Cumulative effect of all hapless leaders, hapless policies and hapless record in government. Let’s not scapegoat Liz she was just one of a bad bunch.
Not sure that HAPLESS is the right word. Try USELESS or NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE
And more people are coming into the country...
No way before Truss mate also was Sunak bored with the job because it was obvious he was going to lose I thought he would have held onto it until the last minute in jan 2025.
Tory whinges about changes to workers rights. What a surprise!
Have the Conservatives given up? I have seen ZERO Conservative election posters or placards anywhere in Oxfordshire. This is such change from previous elections. There are Lib Dem, Labour and Green posters/placards everywhere but No Conservative. Is there a reason for this? Is this the same anywhere else?
Same in Doncaster and Scunthorpe..... Interesting about Oxfordshire... Most of us would expect that area to be the bluest of the blue !
Hammond accuses Labour of proposing radical reform of workers rights…. Which is a monumental lie!
Labour’s proposals on workers rights are solid and will deliver positive change, but are proportionate. Businesses and top business people wouldn’t be so vocal in their endorsement of Labour if they were radical.
Additionally, Hammond is right that parties win elections from the centre ground. However, he neglects to mention the crucial fact that the election after next weeks election will be an election for a second term in government. 5 years at most. After 14 years of Conservative chaos and serial incompetence, it will take more than 2 terms in government, let alone 1 for Labour to be able to deliver substantive, positive, lasting change and thereby repair and re-build the country.
I know how you pay for it. Close the non dom statue f the very wealthy and make the very wealthy pay their fair share in taxes!
😂😂😂 reform will drag the tories even further to the right
The Blair government was the best we have had in my life time !! Hardly heard anybody complain apart from going to war !! But economically it was spot on !!
😂😂😂😂..Boris and Sunak in my book
It started with cameron and got worse with each successive pm.
Ain't no party like a No.10 lockdown party
The Conservative belief that redistributing wealth in any form is disastrous presumes that trickle-down economics actually works, even though it provably doesn't. If it did, there would be no inequality in the world. But the reality is that it's widening at an exponential rate. I think Starmer's approach is the right one. Growth, yes, some redistribution and protecting workers rights and their wages. It's the only way. And when interest rates come down it'll be cheaper to borrow. Obama did it when he first came into power and the US economy recovered the quickest, I think, from the 2008 crash.
Most people lost faith because of rishi sunak
And once again we hear the Tories favourite cry “will no one think of the millionaires?”. Give money to a poor person and they have no choice but to spend it. Gove money to a rich person and they stash it away, the only way you can get access to that money is to pay interest on it. The poor get poorer and the rich continue to get richer. Commerce simply cannot continue indefinitely when all the money is steadily funnelled towards the top. Increased taxation of the rich is the only way to push money back to the bottom of the system. Close down all tax havens, this would of course require worldwide cooperation. The working class must be allowed to keep more of the wealth they generate.
Trick perspective, bosses and capitalists never create the wealth. It has always been the workers. You cannot seriously saying raising a national wage, and not their taxes, is somehow meaning people have less
Cannot bare Andrew Marr
Bye-bye tories no more looking after your wealthy mates and making our country an unsafe place.
It won't be a sensible centre-right Conservative opposition, but will be an extreme right wing particularly unpleasant and truly nasty Conservative opposition. Truss wasn't the final straw Johnson was!