Peter Hitchens: the case against Labour and Keir Starmer | SpectatorTV
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Keir Starmer has launched Labour's manifesto in Manchester promising to put 'wealth creation' at the heart of his priorities. Peter Hitchens believes that despite years of campaigning against Conservative power, a Labour government is the worst possible scenario for Britain. Peter makes his case to Fraser Nelson on Spectator TV.
Chapters
00:00:00 - 00:05:04 The threat posed by a Starmer-led government
00:05:04 - 00:13:30 The similarities between Blair's and Starmer's Labour
00:13:30 - 00:20:03 Could strategic voting prevent a Labour majority?
00:20:03 - 00:22:55 What role could Nigel Farage play in a reborn Conservative Party?
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Can Nigel Farage and Reform UK play a significant role in reshaping the UK's political landscape through a reborn Conservative Party?
Forage led the cheer leading for Brexit and look where that went... be careful what you wish for.
I hope not.
Shocking to see the Spectator fall for Starmer.
I personally think it's right to vote for Reform. I understand it's going to take time, and I also understand that Labour will win this election. This is how it must be for the next five years because it's the only way to build Reform so that it can become a leading party.
@@liabrooks7811 Just like a well known national movement. Took time then led to ruin. Not just the obvious regime but many others not ending until 1975 Portugal.
I fear Mr Hitchen is spot on . This country has become a cess pit since Blair.
Surely you mean since Thatcher. Blair was Thatchers greatest achievement.. she bragged.
BLAIR set the standard for trashing the constitution acting like a tyrannical dictator ignoring his cabinet and the will of the people, yet he still has a publicly funded police unit while having an obscene fortune Not even Thatcher required such a very telling post PM luxury He needs protection for the many crimes he committed not least the Iraqi WAR crime But he has the nerve to take public money rather than hire his own protection like all other billionaires apart from the Royal Family even Harry wasn't important enough for that luxury
@@mick947 Yes very scary
1914 wrecked us forever
@@seanmoran2743 America's plan all along but look where they are now ha
Isn't Fraser Nelson the one who told Swedish TV that you can run sky-high immigration levels and can do so without public opposition provided you give the impression that you're limiting immigration?
I don’t know if he said that but you need to understand WHY he said this. He was probably describing what politicians have been doing for the past thirty years. It doesn’t mean that he agrees with this.
@@28pbtkh23 If you read The Spectator, what he thinks is quite clear.
Do not trust these political gamers in it to win the game, not to empower the future generations. The exaggerated accents reveal the need for ego approval by an exclusive debate club. Label everyone snd dehumanise.
@@Autodidactz aren’t they all? If you ran a little experiment if two terms for Starmer you’d begin to find exactly the same levels of self interest alleged at the current administration. And equal levels of guilt.
That sounds like a reasonable thing to say, no? People in unaffected provincial regions that vote for anti-immigration policies would almost definitely be appeased if they're under that impression
Peter Hitchens in one sentence - "Everyone is blind except me".
No at all there are many many people who fear Labour not just PH
@@Cafez27 He is a stain
@@actingwithgarethharris9920 not sure what you mean to be honest
Probably.
I could listen to him all day. Smart, but even more rare; bold with his (well-formed) opinions and totally unswayed by the crowd. Agree with him or not, I appreciate the guy.
We all know the case, Peter. That doesn't make the Tories any more electable. Both parties are an abomination.
It's not about the Tories, it's about stopping Starmer and Labour. Vote to stop Starmer and Labour
@@radicalrodriguez5912 It's about stopping both of them.
@@design7054 you can't stop both of them. labour will win and win big if the right doesn't vote tactically
@@radicalrodriguez5912 Ignore controlled opposition like this guy. Vote Reform.
@@KopperNeoman Vote against Labour
Two things are true. The Tories have been awful. Labour will be much worse.
Not as corrupt or incompetent, though.
Based on what evidence?
@@user-zc4yd9ss7h Both I'm afraid.
@@Mark.AW1962 On what Hitchens said for 22 minutes.
@@user-zc4yd9ss7h give them a chance, once they have their hands on the money I expect they will be as bad.
Labour stole my pension. Never forget or forgive. We are ruled by traitors and criminals.
How so?
I'm no cheerleader for Gordon Brown but there have been 27 budgets and autumn statements since labour left office for them to reverse everything he did, but they didn't. They didn't even get rid of additional rate tax.
@@hitchslap8254 Because they are a pale copy of New Labour as Hitchens says.
Exactly....
Ruled? They wish, MPs are employed by the people to ADMINISTER the UK on our behalf, they’ve managed to conveniently “forget” that, they need to be reminded, vote them out, vote for anyone but red or blue 🤔
When the Spectator are pretending Starmer is right wing you know you're in all kinds of trouble.
Wholeeeeee heaps
It would be entirely laughable if they were to suggest that Starmer is left wing. He is certainly well to the right of centre.
Must Vote REFORM
The far right are doing all sorts of dissing, Starmer is right wing, is far left, even Tories are Left wing, its all to distract from the clear facts, Reform is far right & like all right wing extremists have Nazi like ideas for the country.
At this point Lib Dems are further left of Labour so yeah, Starmer is right wing.
For years he’s been saying we should destroy the Tories and now when we are on the verge of actually doing this he’s got cold feet.
Only now does he show his true blue colours.
He's old , has been correct for years but he understands the Tories are incompetent and Tony blair isnt
He is not for them, he is saying Labour will do a lot of damage. Fight people! Stop Labour!
there is logic behind his change in opinion, that being that the time to remove the tories was in 2010, not now. The left are far more powerful now than they were
He's spelled it out perfectly clearly. The time to get rid of them was in 2010, when the worst case was another 5 years of Gordon Brown who had no support or will to do anything. A vote for Labour now will bring in an ideological nightmare that will solidify and continue the destruction of our institutions that will make it impossible for the country to ever reverse course.
Whether you agree with what Hitchens is saying here or not, the Blairite, Fraser Nelson, is simply incapable of comprehending the warning being issued, because he - other than some minor bones of contention - simply cannot see any issue with Blairism.
The same applies to essentially all of the corporate media gatekeepers in this country, who have done very nicely thank you out of Blairism, and are entirely detached from the damage it has done under both Labour and the Tories over the past 30 odd years.
It's called Thatcherism.
@@alan_davis which is a form of economic liberalism. What is a "small c" conservative economic policy?
@@alan_davis Incorrect.
Fraser is particularly irritating, you'd think this video was a platform for HIS opinion .... not sure why he bothered to invite Peter 🙄 what a moron
You must be new here if you think Fraser Nelson is a Blairite.
I would trust Corbyn words more than Starmers tenfold
Corbyn;s words have always been easier for him to stand by as he has had no real chance of ever putting anything into effect in the real world, outside of pressure group politics. When the leader of the Labour Party refuses to taqke intelligence briefings from MI5 and MI6 but prefers to take his news roundups from Hamas then you know you are dealing with one pucked up fuppy.
I like Corbyn. But he handed the country to Johnson with a massive majority and the almost-collapse of the country now in part is because of that. So the Q is, do you want a further Left politician who sits powerless in opposition, or.a fairly Left party actually in power? The reality is that you cannot simply yank the political mainstream from one side to the other, especially not in a country as change -adverse as ours. It has to be gradual. I suggest you look up 'Overton Window" and you should start to see what I mean.
If you follow what Starmer Labour has done, they are gradually moving things leftwards. I get that it's not as fast as we would like, but it's the only way. It's very obvious that they understand how much trust in politics has been damaged and they are looking to make incremental improvements and show their intentions by results rather than rhetoric. I applaud that approach.
Corbyn was way too honest and got destroyed for it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@@ukbloke28 Critiquing the erosion of the post war state and proposing social democratic alternatives is not the same as cheering on people who hate Britain as an entity to the degree you refuse to meet with your own intelligence services as, unlike the Russian or Chinese ones, you regard them as suspect. Bit different.
I would not trust either of them, the difference is Corbyn told you his intentions, Shamer doesn't.
Calling this Labour party a left wing party is like calling this Conservative party Conservative.
What are you trying to say? Labour are right wing?
@@Marstepolovsky globalism tends to transcend both left and right in the new orthodoxy which is a legacy of Blair, i dont like it at all. But i dont see any easy ways out of it either.
They have purged the left out of the party and replaced them with right wing pro war, Genocide supporting maniacs.
We won't know until they get into power
Davos or Westminster.
I think it is very clear where you are going.
Great Scott. Peter Hitchens 100% correct about Starmer and so called labour. The real people who epitomised a Labour Party have been long gone.
He is scaremongering. He couldn't really say what Starmer was going to do. Reforming the House of Lords is well overdue. Didn't Cameron put his wife's hairdresser in there? And Boris put the KGB guy's son in there. Starmer wants to start by chucking out people who get a seat by birthright. It's those people that ordinary people used to he expected to doff their caps to. We've moved on from that surely? Labour will also bring in PR eventually. A much fairer system than FPTP so that's a good reform too. Everybody's vote will count. I thought the judiciary already could hold the government to account. It doesn't take Parliamentary sovereignty away. It provides checks and balances so that the government doesn't flout the law like Boris tried to when he proroged Parliament. The High Court said he was acting illegally and Parliament had to be recalled. What's the problem? Hitchens is pedalling fear. .I'm not Starmer's greatest fan but he will do better than Blair and the tories.
And Starmer is God awful. Thank goodness for Farage and REFORM. I will vote for Reform in 2024 if I can and I will vote for Reform in 2028. LONG LIVE FREEDOM.
Auld Fraser Nelson is in a shocking state, he’s hard left hates the hoi polloi is a fervent supporter of anti brexit, all and all a washout.
Reform 🤮
No chance!
No votes for those vile excuses for human beings like Tice, 30p Lee, Widdecombe, Oakshott , Farage etc, who promote racism, hatred and division!
Reform is interested in one thing only, lower taxes,
But In order to do that they want to destroy the NHS.
Then do away with every right fought for over the last one hundred years.
Take away all health and safety regulation.
What will they do with all their money? Stash it off shore, producing nothing. They will be paid a wage by forming companies and paid by these off shore companies.
If you are sick you will get better or die. It's not their concern.
If you are mentally ill you will get better or die its not their concern.
If you have an accident you will get better or die its not their concern.
If you lose your job better get one quick or you will starve!
@@sabejreid2072 Reform are shysters and conmen.
I am surprised that Peter is not glad that the Conservative Party are doomed, he has said that they needed to be destroyed
He is always fighting for the losing side, keeps him in interviews.
I wish he'd just bore off
timing matters
His whole brand is to be pessimistic and contrarian. Couldn't possibly agree with the wider public on anything.
No he's quite consistent. He viewed Brown as harmless so the strategy at the time was to vote for him to let the Tories perish.
He gets more interviews, articles published and clicks by warning of imminent danger (of a Starter government). That is how you explain his behaviour.
I like PH but sometimes I suspect he likes to be on the losing side, it means you can always shout "I told you so" when things fall out of fashion. He's wanted to destroy the Tories since 2010, now it's actually on the verge of reality he seems to think a vote for the Reform is too risky because it'll give a green light to Labour.
There is a reason for that. He is always on the losing side.
Sounds intellectual. Isn't.
@@alan_davis B...but...he's got a beard and everything
@alan_davis Over the last 60 years, why would you want to be on any of the "winning" sides ? In near enough everyway you could mention things have gotten demonstrably worse.
He hasnt wanted to "destroy the Conservative party since 2010", hes wanted to destroy them since 2003 and 2010 was the last moment where this would be possible with any possible chance of a genuinely conservative revival.
If you're going to accuse him of "wanting to be on the losing side", atleast get your facts right before you smear him
@@kil93 I stand corrected.
"far worse" don't you even dare. Jeremy Corbyn stood for so much more than any of these crusty elitists.
We missed the best would be PM: JEREMY CORBYN.
Peter is spot on... once Starmer gets in he will, like so many have before him, just do as he likes and manifestos soon get forgotten.
All manifestos get forgotten once there in,it’s just a ego trip for them at our expense
Come back in 5 years
Why do you hold labour to a much higher standard than the tories??
@@Litheon11 History. Because evidentially, they've always done a lot more for the people.
‘The biggest myth about labor unions is that unions are for the workers. Unions are for unions, just as corporations are for corporations and politicians are for politicians.’ - Thomas Sowell
🙄
It doesn't make it true just because someone said it. Unions got us the 40 hour work week in law, it got us the health and safety regulations and it got us the ability to push back against exploitation in the workplace.
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d 💯👍
There are unions…
…and there are unions.
Thomas Sowell sounds like an idiot
The economy did not grow well under the last Labour government. Why pretend? It was an economic boom based on credit and house prices. Which collapsed in 2008 leaving us with a deficit to gdp of 6.9% in 2010.
Exactly.....millions also up to their necks with credit card debts which de-stabilised the economy.
One man with a secret £100k debt committed suicide.
Peter Hitchens does not endorse anyone, rather he sits Eeyore like on the sidelines moaning about all of them.
Which to be fair is pretty easy to do.
Exactly.
Easy to be a critic of politicians. Try actually doing something to help rather than bitching and moaning.
The other Hitchens actually had a viewpoint.
@@alan_davis You're saying he didn't express any views here?
He wrote books about what went wrong and how to fix it 😂
It is when you have his wealth.
@@alan_davis So does Peter if you watch all his stuff and read his books.
If you are thinking of voting Labour, please see 👀 your doctor soon as. 🇬🇧
Can't get an appointment thanks to the Tories
if your thinking of voting for sunak you are a traitor to the working class.
silly man
That’s a big chunk of the nation
No Doctors appointments available, sorry.
Wonder why that is?
Oh, the irony!
I agree with Peter Hitchins on this issue, Starmer is going to be a disaster for our country, vote for the Reform UK party on mass
"En masse"
@castropianoforte thank you, but the little englander above is really going to hate that!
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737yes, you can read their policies on their website if you’re interested. I’m certainly researching all the parties policies before deciding who to vote for. Interesting…
Vote for Mr. Brexit. How is that going? Mr. 0-7 in Parliamentary elections? farage is a drump wannabe. Hed be in the US now if the guilty verdicts didnt come down.
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737They have a very attractive manifesto tbf
Hitchens can't seem to agree with anything anyone says. To say Nigel Farage doesn't seem to believe in very much is ridiculous. It's his passion in what he believes in that energises him to carry on despite numerous setbacks. He's a conviction politician, like Thatcher. I don't agree with Hitchens' characterisation at all.
England is doomed
Fraid so,Life is not good at all.
@@alfching2499 well me personally, I've never liked life at all love
I think they might make the semis
Reform UK is ahead of the Tories and just five points behind Labour in my constituency, and gaining fast. Support for Labour is the same as in 2019, Reform is growing exponentially.
Where there’s #life, there’s #hope. (#English proverb)
With 54 years as a Labour supporter . Starmer . No , never .
Rubbish. If you supported Blair, Brown and you could still stomach the likes of Corbyn then you wouldn't have a problem with Starmer. You're either a Tory or Remain supporter posing as a Labour supporter. Honestly how gullible do you think people are.
Glad to see not all Labour are dogmatic
So u voted corbyn😢
Same. He's massively dishonest, without integrity and a technocrat. I joined the Labour Party in my teens, I left as soon as Starmer came in. Him and his Mc Sweeny ghouls can shove my vote.
Rubbish, no one who voted for Corbyn twice after supporting Blair and Brown would desert the party because of Starmer.
To quote Dad's Army "We're all domed Captain Mainwaring"
Your brain is doomed.
Never been a fan of Peter and have mostly disagree with most of his articles and comments in newspapers. I am amazed that I actually agree with him, I think people are going to have a big shock if labour get into power. We are going to be living under a dictatorship
Does Hitchen's not realise Tory and Labour are two sides of the same arsecheek?
The Labour arsecheek smells so much fresher you must admit.
He says that they are in every interview more or less, including this one. He is just saying Labour are the dirtier cheek...
And reform in between the 2 cheeks
No. He can't accept that argument - which is kind of ironic considering he said that the Tories accepted the Blairite agenda when Michael Howard became leader, and how Cameron was "the heir to Blair". He also dismisses the globalist agenda.
He's been saying that for years.
“The scariest thing about politics today is not any particular policy or leaders, but the utter gullibility with which the public accepts notions for which there is not a speck of evidence” - Thomas Sowell. I would add ‘ or ignore what parties have promised before and not delivered, believing what they promise now will be delivered if elected’
None of the parties deliver what they promise, they say we will all be better off but when did you feel better off because of a government policy. if they cut taxes in one area they raise it somewhere else it has always happened and always will. We need something new i don't know if reform will be it but unless they get a chance we will never know. if you look how labour started it was much the same way as reform now, Liberals were the dominant party until Labour came along.
The famouse quote is that "Democracy is the worst system except for all the others". You have to wonder if that is still true in the modern internet age (Not that I can think of a better option)
@@richardeggett392 it is designed for a club of elites to maintain their power and grip on the nations
THANK YOU PETER THE TRUTH IS HARSH BUT WE MUST LISTEN.
I think Peter Hitchens is completely correct and has a superb understanding of the devious, destructive British left.
And the right?
@@dbefore7165 The British Conservative Party has not been right of anyone's "centre" from the moment Cameron went into coalition with Nick Clegg. T May writing into law Net Zero by 2050 in 2019 was leftist. Boris Johnson comes from a family of liberal Social Democrats, AND was a member of the Liberal Party whilst at Balliol , Oxford. (Stanley Johnson even did post-graduate research at the London School of Economics.) They've not been "conservative" since William Hague departed as leader.
Where has Nelson been all his life or is he just being a Devil's Advocate?
@@gunternetzer9621 I hope the latter? But, he is Londoncentric - and a long time factotum to the legacy media and the Westminster Bubble. So, who knows what any of these media types really are?
Both conservatives and labour are just different shades of liberal, with conservatives being at the more extreme end of the spectrum and having a libertarian faction. Labour has been more or less purged of its left wing under Starmer's authoritarian leadership. As someone commented, Starmer is Blair's sock puppet. For a while now there have been few individuals in British politics that inspire confidence and that one can have respect for.
New Labour isn't the party for ordinary people
Starmer Party: for the FEW not the MANY!
Marjorie Stoker you are right on point,From across the Pond !
Conservatives- the party for non doms.
Correct. It's the party of the metropolitan liberal elite.
It is if you want rid of the Tories.
Frasier Nelson seems quite complimentary of Blair's record. This is the very problem with these internationalist, marry a foreigner Conservatives. They, like all too many Conservative MPs, are in the wrong party. The Conservative Party must be gutted so that a new effective party can come through that puts the interests of British citizens first, second, every time.
If you think marrying a foreigner is a bad thing then there is something seriously wrong with you.
All parties should be for the interests of the British citizens. What are you talking about?
The Conservative Party has never put the interests of British citizens first. It's put the interests of the wealthy first. As would Reform, quite frankly. You expect a spivvy former bankster to save Britain? 🤣
Let's be honest. We shouldn't be voting Conservative after all of this. So, a vote for Conservatives is a vote for Labour!
Vote Reform!
The only 'growth' we sill see under Starmer is the growth of the public sector, the state, and all its grotesque wealth and privileges.
Why are you not out protesting for the past 14 years? The Tories have done all these.
@@maneshipocrates2264 Indeed-Tories have fuc*ed everything up, and this guy thinks Labour will just continue the Tory disaster.
Immigration too
No he will sell it, he’s a globalist, a capitalist
Rofl the conservatives have ruined the country, how you blaming that on labour
I can't tell if Frasier is playing devil's advocate or really is that gullible about Labour's intent.
Frasier is a blairite wet. He laps it up.
The latter I suspect - but you know that I also suspect.
He's got the sort of face you would like to take your hand to.
Hitchen's case that a Labour victory will result in 'Starmageddon' is not very convincing.
I heard Starmer announce his manifesto today. I hadn't recognised his voice and took it to be that of minor local politician.. Not the least impressive, no facts, no tradeoffs, no vision. Just a 'let's not frighten the centrist voters'
The people who are going to get the biggest shock is the youth Labour voters. They have no idea what a Labour government actually looks like.
I do remember the Labour government. The country worked. In what way is the country better after 14 years of conservative rule?
You obviously have amnesia. The country was richer when Labour where in power, the Tories came along and ruined literally everything.
If you were a young person living in a grotty bed sit on an average wage with no hope of owning your own place, why would you vote Conservative? Housing should be at the top of the agenda but Big Wigs like Boris Johnson went round the world trying to flog off plan property in London to any Tom, Dick or Harry, who had no connection with this country. I am a Conservative voter, but I despair. Labour are no better of course, but if you are young and naive you will probably fall for their spiel.
Ever heard of the Iraq War? Blood dripping from all Labour liars who took us into an illegal war. The Conservatives have had Covid and the Ukraine war to contend with.
@@drfell9105 labour took pfi to new levels causing problems now for the nhs paying off loans for decades, the note about nothing left. The destabilisation of the Middle East caused by Tony Blair has repercussions even now
I remember just before Blair was voted in (I was 12) by father warned me how bad it would be if labour got in. He was right we had an Illegal war mass immigration crippling dept and the selling of are gold reserves at the cheapest possible price. Not to mention the criminal justice bill which eroded are freedoms.
Anyone who remembers the pension raid by Blair/Brown or who was affected by it should be voting for reform.
No.
Plus selling off the gold at a knockdown price,
@@alan_davisConservative then.
Peter Hitchens is absolutey right,
"A vote is a practical act with measurable consequences. It's not an emotional spasm."
Excellent description.
What does Labour know about wealth creation???
That maybe everyone should be able to?
Blair 1997 - 2007. 40 consecutive quarters of growth.
@@user-zc4yd9ss7h but Blair was a conservative! I voted for him twice, I know a conservative when I hear one!
@@deal2liveI think you just lost the argument...
@@dbefore7165 Except Starmer doesn't care about everyone else. He's a Blairite cockroach which means he's only out for himself and his own personal advancement. People like that are a cancer in politics.
Finally a voice of reason - well done for having Peter on!
The Conservative's record in office...
1. Highest energy bills in Europe.
2. Highest taxes in 70 years.
3. Highest interest rates since 2008.
4. Highest train fares in Europe.
5. Longest waiting lists in NHS history.
6. Raw Tory sewage pumped into rivers.
7. Lowest corporate taxes in 50 years.
8. Lowest State Pension in Europe.
9. Highest Immigration both legal and illegal ever.
10. Destroyed the NHS dentist service.
11. Brexit.
12. One failed Prime Minister after another.
13. Worlds shortest in post Prime Minister which created a financial disaster.
14. More corrupt MP's than any other party in parliament.
15. Europe's longest Austerity for the lower paid.
16. Highest Council Tax rates in the World.
17. Reduced our Armed Forces more than any other G8 country.
18. Highest number of MP's that have been arrested for sexual offences.
19. Highest number of MP's that have been sacked for corruption and Fraudulent acts.
20. Voted to allow Bankers to have unlimited bonus's even though the bankers caused the crash of 2008.
21. More libraries closed due to council cuts than any other modern country.
22. Ruined and destroyed the Train services by giving private companies tax payers money as subsidies.
23. Voted against Labours creation of the minimum wage.
24. Wasted billions of Tax payers money on crony PPE contracts for their friends and other Tory donors.
25. Sold off 600 Police Stations.
26. Sold off our Courthouses.
27. Closed then sold our Fire Stations.
28, Failed to fix - repair our schools.
29. Cut spending on youth services.
30. Court backlog is at record levels
31. Threw 30,000 pensioners to the wolves during the first wave of the pandemic.
32. Sold off our electrical grid to foreign companies.
33. Failed to build new affordable homes.
34. Wasted billions on HS2.
35. Failed to close Tax Loopholes.
36. Failed to build 40 new hospitals.
37. Failed to repair our crumbling roads.
38. Forced many councils into bankruptcy.
39. Failed to address the 4 million children living in poverty.
40. Cut spending on mental health services.
41. Privatised and sold off the nations Post Office - Gas - Water and Electricity Companies
42. Allowed BP and Shell to steal our Oil and Gas reserves whilst paying little to no taxes. (Norway has a Sovereign Wealth fund of over $1.6 trillion).
43. Sunaks failed RWANDA policy has cost approx 500m.
44. Increased the pension age.
45. Failed promise to end rough sleeping.
46. Failed promise to end Leaseholds.
47. Failed to Ban No Fault Evictions.
48. Failed to ban so-called conversion therapy.
49. Failed in their Levelling up promise.
50. Introduced Voter ID excluding thousands from voting.
51. Introduced the bedroom tax.
52. Forced disabled people to jump through hoops to claim benefits.
53. Britain now has more foodbanks than McDonalds.
54. Tried to implement fracking.
55. Failed to invest in green energy and electric vehicle recharging infrastructure.
56. Our National Debt is now 3 Trillion.
57. Failed to prepare or have sufficient PPE for a Pandemic even when it was No1 on the risk register...
58. Given free reign in Non-Dom billionaires and Media owners to cause societal division and fuel racism.
59. Promoted lunatics like Cruella, Mogg and Patel to high office.
60. Blocked the Russia report.
61. Gave us the highest diesel prices in Europe.
62. Closed and then sold off our onshore gas storage tanks to high end developers making the impact of the invasion of Ukraine worse by increasing the cost of gas.
63. Tripled the cost of University fees for students and locked them in their digs during the pandemic.
64. Grenfell.
65. Windrush.
66. Increased our National Debt to 3 Trillion.
67. Partygate.
68. G4S Prisons.
69. We are giving 8 million quid a day to landlords for migrant accommodation due to the Home Office go slow policy.
70. Little to no Border checks on goods and foods.
71. Sold the Farmers and Fishermen down the river.
Handed the currency speculators billions via Truss budget event and if it was not for the BoE would have ANNHILATED PENSIONS.
Handed billions to people who had nothing to do with PPE then wiped their collective hands of the issue.
Handed 35 billion plus for an app that disappeared, just like the money.
Another thing Hitchens seems forgetful of is Osborne. he nicked 180 billion from pensions.
All true. I still expect Labour to be worse though.
@@jenniferlawrence2701 Why? They weren't last time? The NHS worked properly, we had some social care. We were members of a great EU club that had loads of benefits to the UK. So give me labour over these corrupt rich kids anyday.
@@jenniferlawrence2701 Why? They weren't last time.
I think you'll find it was labour who destroyed dentistry in this country. The tories have had to endure a coalition with the libdem bedwetters, put the economy back together after labour's financial crash and usual bankrupting of the country, deal with covid and then an energy crisis caused by a mad Russian. If you had listed some of their achievements, it would have been easier to take your dirge more seriously, even the made up points.
I am scared for my country when Labour gets in 😢
Go back 15 years ,have we all been living the highlife.
When the Tories took over the debt to GDP was about 65% after the financial crash, its now close to 100% - some record on financial stewardship! The Tories have been corrupt and incompetent. No doubt people will be disappointed by a new Labour government as it will struggle to deliver change with such high levels of national debt.
@@freebornjohn2687 But there was no deficit in 1997. The books balanced.
Major/Clarke left hefty budget surpluses up to £20 billion during Blair's first term but squandered by spendthrift, profligate Brown.
Labour is keen on spending taxpayers money and make towns poorer.
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The most amatuerish Labour party our country has ever know with zero experience of running an economy.
What could possibly go wrong? 😂
Liz truss..
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Head and shoulders above Abbott, Lammy, Starmergeddon or the Ginger growler.
he knows about the economy just as the Tories, the secret is about how to break windows to build new ones and create GROWTHHHH
@@RemoanersRtossersobviously not..
Wow…. You sir are a deludes clown.!
After the last five years I can’t blame anyone who doesn’t want to vote for the Tories ever again but the problem is that it will probably be even worse under Starmer and most people know it!
If one maxim in political life is true, it is voters will always do the opposite of what Peter Hitchens recommends.
Wealth creation for him is what Starmer really means!
lol you are a child
They could start by taxing Amazon and McDonalds! that way they wouldnt need to destroy the wealth of the middle class so much!
So bye bye Amazon and macdonalds then. How many workers added to the scrap heap?
@@squizza28Other businesses fill the gap
@@squizza28of course! These big companies are just going to up and leave because they make a slightly lower profit 🤣 have you even been abroad it’s all about expansion
They are taxed. You think they're free business?
peter mumbles
this does not make for ideal listening
How we needed David Davis instead of Cameron
Thick as mince.
Thick as mince David Davis?
Wtf??
David Davis is a decent man
@@stephenholmes1036 I agree. Comes from a working class background, served in the military, has worked in the real world and he's just more of down to earth person than most of the Tories.
These cosy chats with Peter Hitchens are great and completely pointless.The battle is lost.
Even though I will vote reform, I think I have to agreee the damage is already done.
I'm planning to leave the uk in the next few years before it's too late
Angela Rayner, David Lammy, Ed Miliband, God Help us.
Truss,Braverman,Jenrick, Johnson, Gove, Sunak???
@@joewilson4191 yes, different levels of stupid. Tories 8/10. Labour 10/10.
@@domzbu Your starter for 10 : which Labour politician is widely agreed to be less competent than a lettuce?
@@domzbu. And yourself 11/10
@@domzbuI would swap d scores and add the recent Tory failure nudging labour to be better, if only marginally better. For Tory 2 continue wld be to reward stupid, and get 20/10 stupidity levels.
Labour will tax tax tax, vat petrol diesel will go up and up
That's ok, we've gotten used to it under the Tories.
....and rocketing council tax.
Unfortunately, I think Peter is right in his characterisation of Sir Kid Starver.
The Tories are the kid stsrvers. Millions of kids in poverty. Uttery disgusting from the Tories. A vile party.
And Nigel Farage.
Sir Keen Groomer
I wonder if these nicknames will catch on...Probably, but after he is free to break all of his promises of economic granduer. Then he'll get verbally attacked but it will be too late, because he'll be in power.
@@kurtisprice3418 His middle name is Rodney so he could be in line for a few 'what a plonker' lines but the tabloids probably don't know that.
In Ireland we have just voted on Local and European elections and the centre ground won. Sinn Féin polling in the 30’s % landed at about 12% …. Nobody saw that coming .. a complete shock .. and a shock to SF most of all …
Always worth listening to Hitchens - a real independent thinker, always thought provoking although always leaves me feeling more pessimistic!
Provoked me into thinking "I wish he'd walk off in a huff again". He's a bore, says a lot but nothing useful.
Say what you like about him, but the Blair years were a great period to be bringing up a young family, I felt very supported.
Best vote reform then Peter
I'm voting Labour next time round. #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again
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REALLY? 😂
Only if he wants a Labour supermajority. 🤦
Hows that going to stop anything ? A vote for Reform is a vote for a Starmer super majority, with Sir Ed Davey as leader of the opposition
@@kil93can't be any worse than today.
Reform is a one man party with a 30p add on. Ridiculous.
Labour left a note no money left, and they didn’t even have the excuse of covid and the Ukraine war.
And they abolished free university education! Now they are attacking private schools which will make state school classes bigger, cost the tax payer more and also pretty much put an end to bright working class kids winning scholarships or bursaries.
After selling our gold reserves at rock bottom prices.
It. Was. A. Joke.
FFS.
@@Jen-mf9rm. As most of the western economies did.
Every government leaves that note. You obviously didn't remember the 2008 world economic crash.
Don't fall for Labour's wealth creation pledges. Labour strategists want to change property laws to gain control of the wealth stored in private houses and homes. The plan is to force older people, and people without children, to move into small flats built for them in the local community. Thereby, freeing up family homes for councils to control and let out.
It maybe wealth creation - but for who?
Rentier Capitalism are the words you're looking for.
@@ianmarsden8568International Finance Capital
'You'll own nothing and be happy'
Not too dissimilar to what the Bolsheviks did. Watch CGT being charged on private house sales, that will be one of the first things Labour will do. It will flatline the housing market and steal ordinary people's money. The left ignore the huge amount of interest paid by homeowners over the lifetime of a mortgage. Unless they paid cash no-one actually pays the asking price of a home.
Vote REFORM. Open your eyes people
It is not the power of the corrupt I fear the most!..it is the power of the gullible !
Heard of the Brexit vote??
@@jumpa654 heard of the left hand path ? ..commie
The National health service wouldn't make keir starmer wait for treatment. That's why he can use the service and say its excellent. As for NHS staff they are treated first because of their job. The nhs invest in the health of their staff. To not treat an NHS worker quickly is to be a man down.
Can't the same be said for any private healthcare provider as well?
What concerns me is that the NHS will become an even worse bureaucracy than it already is. Unlimited oney will be pumped into it, all from borrowing and there will be no reform at all.
Post evidence of each point.
For those who dont know Kier Starmers political wing of being a Troskyite. Here is a lowdown:- First of all so called Trotskism is an off branch of Marxism. Karl Marx the founder (Real name Karl Mordechai Levi came from a long list of Talmudic Rabbis from his family tree) and to a lesser extent his side-kick Friedrich Engeles who was a son of a wealthy textile owner(The Irony), funded Marx's movement and studies. These two were Students of the writings and teachings of Moses Hess who was a Jewish philospher, early communist and a zionist thinker. Hess was notably endorsed by Theodore Herzol who went as far as saying Hess was a major pillar in allowing the Belfour Declaration to even be possible.( This was an agreement in coded wording so the world wouldnt understand that Britain would give Palestine to the Jews as coin of the realm as a consideration for geeting United states into the war to fight with Britain, France, Italy and Tzarists Russia against Germany and its Allies(Turkey who at that time controlled Palestine were allies with Germany. Now within a couple of years Germany who had won that war out right and offered Britain a very generous peace deal. Britain only had 2 weeks food supply for her people and then starvation now the German submarines which was a technology well ahead of everyone else had destroyed vast quantities of food imports and munitions from the alantic convoys. Now Britain was considering this. It was continue the war and starve. Bare in mind Germany never started this war and not one bullet had been fired on german soil. The Zionists in eastern Europe sent a delegation to the war cabinet in Britain stating you dont have to lose this war, you can still win. We will garuntee to get the enormous United states army to fight on your side as your allies to crush Germany in return for Palestine to the jews for their homeland state which is codeword for one world goverment. They needed something in writing and this was called the belfour decleration. Which is just an agreement from Britain to use palestine as coin of the realm to get united states to fight Germay. Once all the popaganda started in the United states who were nearly all pro German including the Jews. Once they new they could obtain palestine then everything changed. Suddenly Germans were Huns, they were cutting of babbies hands and shooting red cross nurses(,The power of owning the Airwaves at that time was absolute power...they controlled the masses just like today all though the internet has put a spanner in the work for now..praise Yahweh!) After this relentless propaganda Woodrow Wilson mind through Stealth and deception had all these lies drilled into his head by the like of Bernard Bearuach and the Warburg Banking Brothers who incidentally along with Jacob Schiff set up the federal reserve Bank where money was printed out of thin air with no asset banking..(Usury on Steriods) in 1912 through stealth, bribes and certain key voters boarding the the Titanic were able to pass through legislation turning over the USA treasury to the Jewish Bankers. One of these reasons was Europe had no money to start a war let alone finish it. Now here's something worth noting to those old mellenials who still dance to the tune of communism is a workmans paradise and is polar opposite to Evil capitalism. In 1917 Whilst ww1 was in chaos and the Russian army was defecting as they didnt like the Tsar Nicholas 2 Russian which has never been conquered from outside by her enemies whether it's Napolean or Hitlers finest troops charging at the Russian steppe wheŕe the latter could have after big initial gains only for the autumn rain bogged them down and -50c froze equipment and fuel as well as men. However a certain tribe did exactly that as they are experts in exploiting vulnerable minds with lies, money, manipulation, terror, torture or even murder and they were able to do it in 1917 by sewing discontent among the populace.....if there was ever an example for hindsight its this one. Lead by Vadlimar Lenin( Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov) and Leon Trotsky( Levi Davidovich Bronstein) leader of the Evil Red Army who was later exiled by Joseph Stalin( Joseph (Iosif) Dzhugashvili) Future Dictator. There are many other names changers(its not just current tools like Laxley-lenin lol) and expecially in the security servives aka the NKVD who were the secret police. Onc the Boksheviks took absolute power by force. For Example Stalin once said it's not the one that casts the vote that counts its the one that counts them. Between 1917 and 1953 give or take over 60 millian white Russian christians were slaughtered in the most horrific fashion. There are to many to.mention here. But trostsky use to often take part in killing whole families. Karl Marx was the first person who advocated political genocide saying that the basques, the highlanders and the slavs as they were not even capitalists yet and so they were two steps behind. He referred to them as r@c!@l trash. He said they wont be able to make the cut and must perish in the revolutionary holocaust. The reason no one has heard about this is the media is in the hand of the perpretrators. Speiberg could make a brilliant film abut the nkvd...they were killing machines.mmmm I wonder why. Dont want those angloes asking to many question hey? The plan right from the begining from the oral tradition of the elders to the last few books of the babylonian Talmud completed by Khazrian Rabbis to the infiltration of freemasonry by Adam Weinshaupt with his secrets socities. The Rothchilds Banking dynasty and to communist manifesto and the protocols of zion its all ways been about in part a Jewish homeland in Palestine for their World Govertment, World Courts and World domination. In order to do this they have to destroy everything good and that's the old order of Christendom.( Communism and Zionism are two sides of the same coin.. Basically what that means if you are voting Starmer you are voting for someone who supports a murderous ideology and if you are a free palesine activist and voting for labour just know you are voting for a zionist which is the unbridled removal of all Palestinians for the homeland for Jews) ztge In addition it was also in part later on in moving Jews from Europe. mainly German Jews at first with their Capital and Equity to Palestine....for profit of course, In the early formation of the state of Israel. Otherwise known as the Transfer agreement between the Zionist and the National Socialist Goverment of Germany. This served both sides. Germany was getting rid of an unwanted Alien and the Zionists were creating their Israel state by returning the Jews to the Promised Land according to them. Hey guess what there is an option...I support Neither Palestine or Israel. I care about my own country and people thats why im voting Reform. See you at the ballot box ❤❤❤
Sovereign parliament of the commons has been salami sliced away since Blair. The Supreme Court is a good example. The House of Lords, being part of parliament, was the final court of appeal. This was reformed by Blair. This is just one example. Devolved governments another example. ECHR et el!
A most interesting interview. Peter gives much food for thought.
He's quite right about the making of the Bank Of England independent. That was done purely so the government could shrug their shoulders and abrogate their responsibility for the most significant control governments can have over the economy; the interest rates.
Covid QE > subsequent double-digit inflation > huge hikes in interest rates....is the ultimate egregious example in that respect.
I don't agree. Nobody knew what to do about COVID-19 and its effects. Here in the USA, they pumped huge amounts of cash into the economy and inflation got out of control too. These we good faith attempts to solve very difficult and unprecedented problems.
@@ph8077 Post-Covid inflation had nothing to do with QE or money creation (which are two separate things by the way. QE is an asset swap of exchanging non-liquid assets (e.g. bonds) for liquid ones (i.e. cash). It doesn't change the overall amount in the economy, just the denomination). It was caused by the war in Ukraine and supply-chain shortages due to China still pursuing a zero-Covid policy.
Inflation being linked to the money supply is neoliberal garbage. You could cause inflation from a single £10 note if you could circulate it fast enough. Conversely, the government could give all of us a trillion quid and as long as nobody tried to spend it, there would be no inflation. Inflation is caused by too much DEMAND chasing too few goods, not too much money.
How can you criticise that? It means that any governments that are voted in dont have total control over our economy. The only job of BoE is to look at inflation and interest rates. Having that be independent is a positve to curtail reckless government policies. Just imagine what Liz Truss would have done.
Every time I listen to Peter Hitchens talk, I miss Christopher.
Of course we're looking at a long term Labour government good grief! How on earth can anyone who seriously follows politics not anticipate this?
Hitchins has completely lost it this time... Blair is a revolutionary Trotskyist 😂😂
Happy soul is Peter!
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He doesn't necessarily want to seem happy, he just wants to help his country.
Happy as a zombie.
Funny how Starmer avoids debates with Farage, I wonder why (clue he would lose).
When is Sunaks debate happening? Did it happen already ?
Even the Ultimate Penalty is not harsh enough for Blair
Flaw in Hitchens' strategy: voting lib dem or green will not keep Labour out. Those parties will more than happily form a Labour-led coalition government.
Nobody should vote green. They have antisemitic candidates 🤢
General strike for proportional representation
I prefer alternative vote, fits better with our constituency setup.
Nothing will change until there is proportional representation.
I would prefer that we try direct democracy like Switzerland has.
@@Chris-gs8kc I'm up for that also but someone pointed out that the Swiss are small in number and highly educated. British... Omg 95% are totally r-ta*d'd
He needs to get on board with Reform UK once they pass the Tories. THEY CAN GET ZERO SEATS, IT JUST TAKES A BIT MORE PUSHING.
After UKIP finished with 14% of the vote and only 1 seat to show for it, that's about where the Tories need to be driven.
Peter seems to be stuck in 1968 and calling everyone a Trotskyist (in their youth) and tainted for life
Peter Hitchens: "We need to leave the EU"
*Brexit*
"No, not like that"
Peter Hitchens: "We need to destroy the Tory party"
*Tory party about to be blown out*
"No, not like that"
Is this man just a constant contrarian?
Always enjoy listening to Peter but rarely agree with him. He obviously fears devolution of power away from Westminster, I welcome it.
A great interview. Hitchins is right - better to vote against what you don't want. A much safer option.
They really need to take those plums out of their gob🤨
According to their rhetoric at the time, Labour would have locked-down longer and harder than the Government's already excessive measure.
Exactly a dictator in the making
When Peter Hitchens speaks, people need to listen. Even if you don't always agree with him, you can ALWAYS learn something ❤
I agree. And in this instance he hasn't made a very compelling argument to vote for the Tories.
I learned not to listen to his tosh anymore.
You lot are so lost haha
Well, I learnt that Christopher Hitchens isn't the only Hitchens' brother who hasn't had a decent thought in the last decade. Of course, Christopher Hitchens has been dead for decade, so he has an excuse that Peter lacks.
The man is out of touch, and changes his views everyday despite being adamant on his stance in the first palce.
Vote to stop Starmer
If Labour get in it won’t be long before they out Starmer and have someone like Khan as Prime Minister.
What kind of scottish accent is that? He'd last 2 minutes on the streets of Glasgow with that toff stuff
Starmer will transform the country into a socialist state, and the real horror show will begin.
Name one good thing the tories have done in 14 years of power?
I'm sorry, but this is laughable. Absolutely laughable.
Starmer is a neo-liberal.
How are people like you so shamelessly wrong?
If only....
Sadly we won't get a socialist utopia, that might have happened with Comrade Corbyn but definitely not with Sir Starmer KC.
Starmer is an extreme trotsky why don't the media pull him about it.
Unlike his brother, this Hitchins has more in common with a cake with cherries and raisins than anything else.
I have been on the fence about Labour, but after learning Pete Hitch is against them I'll definitely be voting Labour.
For the first time in my life, I have to except that folks like me and you are royaly fucked whatever the outcome of this election is..
Vote against. Let's see what we can do
Not true , vote reform.
Vote Reform, or if that doesn't work, sell up and emigrate to pastures new.
I have voted strategically for many years now. I voted for Blair in his first term, because I had always voted Labour - even though I didn't like him from the start. I didn't vote the next time round but I voted to get him out after the third time round and I have voted to keep Labour out since then.
No one asked or cares
Basically, as you get older you get more right wing. That figures.
@@joewilson4191 I don't pledge allegiance to anything; I look at politicians' levels of dishonesty and consider who is capable of the most potential harms.
@@SplashTasty righty-ho, pet.
Very sensible, imo
Its time for Labour to change us into the socialist country we have always dreamed of.
Nothing irritates me more than all the mindless zombies who vote the way they've always voted no matter what the circumstances OR who the leader is.
Unfortunately the UK will have to through another 3 million immigrants and 5 years of Starmer