I find it incredibly interesting that everyone is talking about Keir Starmer's freebies, which were all within parliamentary rules, yet nobody mentions Robert Jenrick's £75,000 donation from an insolvent company with no employees that came from the Cayman Islands.
No. What's interesting is that Starmer can say that someone on £13k doesn't need £200 to help with winter fuel but he, a millionaire (on £160K+) needs £120k help for clothing (his wife too), glasses, a property for his son to revise for his GCSEs etc etc etc. And by the way, Labour got a £4million pound donation from a hedge fund in the ............Cayman Islands
@@localshaman it’s nothing to do with the rules,it’s the fact both Starmer & Raynor was calling out Johnson for taking gifts while at the same time receiving themselves hypocrisy
No,the callous way he treats the sick and disabled says it all,highly legalistic, graceless and without natural affection ,kindness. Truly a mechanical man.
Voters don’t “know” what £22 billion looks or feels like. But they sure as heck know what £600 extra to heat their granny’s house looks like. Perception is all.
I'm growing more and more irritated by the clumsiness and arrogance of this bunch. I accepted the logic of the cuts to the fuel allowance. But Jesus, Starmer can't keep insisting on telling "working people" to buckle-up because it's going to be a bumpy ride whilst donors are making his supremely cush. He can't warn "working people" that we'll have to go without whilst he goes with MORE. How can they not get this? Starmer's the son of a tool maker, so he can get his flipping glasses at some BOGOF joint like the rest of us "working people." His mother worked for the NHS, as does his wife, who can find a nice high street dress like every working woman does. It's called cutting back. Living within our means. Why did Starmer even put her in the position of wearing borrowed clothes, for the love of Mike? I don't get it. I don't know if Labour is having a bad case of nouveau riche run amok or if it's just brazen entitlement. My guess is amateur hour. Electoral politics is very different from governing. Whatever the diagnosis, Starmer and his cabinet have lost the plot. Bridget Philips and her flipping business birthday party. Jesus. These people. I feel as if I wasted a vote.
Hi @@tom_123. I dumped Labour because of the BS Starmer pulled with Diane Abbott, then came back when she got the whip. Nevertheless, I'm under no delusion that we enjoy a one [wo]man, one vote electoral system.
@@robertmaitland8728 It has been my opinion, for decades, that NONE of the 650 MP's are capable of doing the job which we, the people, elect them to do... If they were applying for a ' normal ' job.. They would, at interview, need to demonstrate an ability to do the job... But, at any General Election, we are ' hiring ' persons, usually with NO suitable previous experience... Not much surprise that they get kicked out, by a disappointed electorate !
@@robertmaitland8728I would trust any Conservative over this disgusting labour party that is attacking our people by politicising our police, our laws our judges and welcoming the flood of both legal and illegal immigrants.... All this whilst attacking pensioners and also releasing criminals from prisons to make room for political prisoners!... Prioritising the imprisoning of patriots while nothing is done to the Manchester Airport animals, the Labour Councillor who called for the slitting of UK citizens throats and led to police officers literally running away from the Rochdale rioters whilst Arming up to attack patriots who are protesting! 🤬
Does he actually know how insulting this is EVERY speech "Working people" like Carers, Elderly Disabled don't count, this is the legacy of "hard working people" would it actually hurt if he just said "People"??? , On the Freebies the Tories have gone totally silent I suspect they are currently bricking it with this level of pushing he will announce a full review and then that's a lot of MP's going to lose a lot of money.
Answer: Not unless he decides to completely change his persona. He says nothing of substance. If he did nothing, then that might be an actual improvement over his horrible austerity measures.
The Tory press haven’t got any real scandals about him so are attacking him with the slightest of thing, like his expenses all I can say is at least he’s being honest about them unlike the previous governments & he’s not wasting money on helicopters & private jets like Rishi & his mob did
"At least he is being honest" No such thing as an honest lawyer, turned politician, corruption rules. Accepting penthouses, suits, frocks, spectacles, free tickets amounting to hundreds of thousands of pounds is the truth.
I hadn't realised the Guardian and the Mirror were now part of the tory press, that's a new one. I don't think everything he accepted was wrong, but they set themselves up for this reaction with their rhetoric in opposition. On the helicopters, the French and Germans each operate over a dozen dedicated jets and helicopters for government ministers. We're the only G7 country that doesn't, so I'd argue it's not that wasteful
Honest, really ? His excuse for getting free tickets to a box at Arsenal is that as prime minister he was advised for security reasons not to sit in the stand. This doesn't explain the thousands of pounds of free tickets he received before he became prime minister.
No quite the opposite, what happened with winter fuel then with the gifts for rich privilege access, he has made himself a sausage to his own misconduct
Starmer has a massive majority despite gaining about 30 per cent of the vote under first past the post and an appalling voter turnout. The tories are gone . Long live the new tories
It's too woo big business. To reassure them that after the horrors of his predecessor, it is fine for them to bankroll his party because Labour is not going to do anything remotely ambitious or progressive to threaten their wealth.
So true. What are his values? I couldn't say if he was to the left of Tony Blair or the Right of Thatcher. We;d be better off with AI. It seems his main attributes are being duplicitous and anally retentive in equal measure.
Why release a piece on the 'before the leaders speech' after the leaders speech has already been given? Gave up 1:39 seconds in. Surely a better thing to release would be what they made of the speech? Its already 24 hours old
I think he can, but it will take a huge amount of effort - and results in terms of public services and the economy. Not to mention the tidal waves of stupidity, disinformation and propaganda on social media.
Narrative I.e. story not truth being the point. If you are tired of the fairytale, look at the factual numbers. Public sector spending, as % gdp, been higher every single year since 2010 than was in any year from 97-07. So not austere at all.
Why do so many feel a bit icky over this speech? It's because the PM has a track record of changing tack whenever it gets a bit difficult. I find it hard to reconcile his proven track record with the fawning from all three of you. Your group memory is the equivalent of a goldfish, with memory problems.
Smoking made dronking very unpleasant for non smokers and when they banned smoking indoors it led to crowds of people clogging up the doors. If you look at the streets they sre full of disposable vapes, in the same way that junkies throw needles on the streets. It's a pernicious addiction.
Sure, he can. Hope he does. Unfortunately, the British public have a the political attention span of a tiktok-addicted teen and a predisposition for hatred so it remains to be seen if any political leader could in this day and age.
how can keir "napoleon" starmer restore trust in politics after what he and the right-wing of the labour party did to jeremy corbyn, the uk public is generally left of centre and wanted a left of centre labour government, starmer gave them a further 5 years of a far-right tory government and ongoing austerity, punishing pensioners and benefit claimants.
The population is in favour of socialism for themselves but not for anyone else. I've heard loads of people cry that their dole is too high but everyone else's is too low. Lunacy.
@@stevenwilliamson6236, 2017, jeremy corbyn received 12,877,918 votes, 2019, 10,269,051 votes, 2024 keir "napoleon" starmer received 9,708,716 votes, in both of corbyn's elections he proved to be more popular than starmer.
@@stevenwilliamson6236 How did they smear him? Was it his attendance at a memorial for the terrorists involved in the Munich Olympics massacre, or his support for a blatantly antisemitic mural in East London?
Starmer has a massive majority despite gaining about 30 per cent of the vote under first past the post and an appalling voter turnout. The tories are gone . Long live the new tories
I find it incredibly interesting that everyone is talking about Keir Starmer's freebies, which were all within parliamentary rules, yet nobody mentions Robert Jenrick's £75,000 donation from an insolvent company with no employees that came from the Cayman Islands.
No. What's interesting is that Starmer can say that someone on £13k doesn't need £200 to help with winter fuel but he, a millionaire (on £160K+) needs £120k help for clothing (his wife too), glasses, a property for his son to revise for his GCSEs etc etc etc. And by the way, Labour got a £4million pound donation from a hedge fund in the ............Cayman Islands
@@orchestralmockups Tories definitely worse though.. goes without saying
@@user-pq9js4ty8ldoes it matter who’s worse,lol the fact that they have all got their noses in the trough!
Was it "Within the rules"?
@@localshaman it’s nothing to do with the rules,it’s the fact both Starmer & Raynor was calling out Johnson for taking gifts while at the same time receiving themselves hypocrisy
Labour have to stop calling paid jobs ‘service’. Sue Gray and Kier starmer are very well paid, they are not doing it voluntarily.
He promised change and is just continuing with austerity and the callous attacks on the disabled that we had years of under the tories.
No,the callous way he treats the sick and disabled says it all,highly legalistic, graceless and without natural affection ,kindness. Truly a mechanical man.
Voters don’t “know” what £22 billion looks or feels like. But they sure as heck know what £600 extra to heat their granny’s house looks like. Perception is all.
The politicians don't seem to understand what ' Optics ' actually means...?
I'm growing more and more irritated by the clumsiness and arrogance of this bunch. I accepted the logic of the cuts to the fuel allowance. But Jesus, Starmer can't keep insisting on telling "working people" to buckle-up because it's going to be a bumpy ride whilst donors are making his supremely cush. He can't warn "working people" that we'll have to go without whilst he goes with MORE. How can they not get this? Starmer's the son of a tool maker, so he can get his flipping glasses at some BOGOF joint like the rest of us "working people." His mother worked for the NHS, as does his wife, who can find a nice high street dress like every working woman does. It's called cutting back. Living within our means. Why did Starmer even put her in the position of wearing borrowed clothes, for the love of Mike? I don't get it. I don't know if Labour is having a bad case of nouveau riche run amok or if it's just brazen entitlement. My guess is amateur hour. Electoral politics is very different from governing. Whatever the diagnosis, Starmer and his cabinet have lost the plot. Bridget Philips and her flipping business birthday party. Jesus. These people. I feel as if I wasted a vote.
So if you were to vote again, you’d vote to re-enable the Tories?
Hi @@tom_123. I dumped Labour because of the BS Starmer pulled with Diane Abbott, then came back when she got the whip. Nevertheless, I'm under no delusion that we enjoy a one [wo]man, one vote electoral system.
Can Keir Starmer make the public trust politics again ?.... Answer... No !
Can Britain trust a Tory NO. Who can we trust then you seem to have the answer.
@@robertmaitland8728 It has been my opinion, for decades, that NONE of the 650 MP's are capable of doing the job which we, the people, elect them to do... If they were applying for a ' normal ' job.. They would, at interview, need to demonstrate an ability to do the job... But, at any General Election, we are ' hiring ' persons, usually with NO suitable previous experience... Not much surprise that they get kicked out, by a disappointed electorate !
@@robertmaitland8728 I have just posted the answer, but YT have removed it, right now....
@@robertmaitland8728I would trust any Conservative over this disgusting labour party that is attacking our people by politicising our police, our laws our judges and welcoming the flood of both legal and illegal immigrants.... All this whilst attacking pensioners and also releasing criminals from prisons to make room for political prisoners!... Prioritising the imprisoning of patriots while nothing is done to the Manchester Airport animals, the Labour Councillor who called for the slitting of UK citizens throats and led to police officers literally running away from the Rochdale rioters whilst Arming up to attack patriots who are protesting! 🤬
Talking of working people only is reminiscent of Osborne speeches from 2010 onwards....
Does he actually know how insulting this is EVERY speech "Working people" like Carers, Elderly
Disabled don't count, this is the legacy of "hard working people" would it actually hurt if he just said "People"??? , On the Freebies the Tories have gone totally silent I suspect they are currently bricking it with this level of pushing he will announce a full review and then that's a lot of MP's going to lose a lot of money.
Change the rules on free gifts. Nothing over £50
but clothes are Support Services 👓🛍👗👠👢🧥- aren't they? N. If it was £50 they would be in jail.
Starmer getting free tours of cottages in the Lake District?? Makes me sick ;)
I remember when he claimed to be a socialist, so we'll have to see if this is also a lie.
I think we can guess the answer... in that he may have had social democratic principles before he became a successfully ambitious (and rich) lawyer.
Short answer...no.
Not a chance.
Honestly i trust it less than ever.
Answer: Not unless he decides to completely change his persona. He says nothing of substance. If he did nothing, then that might be an actual improvement over his horrible austerity measures.
His leadership campaign was funded by Israel so we assume he is owned by Israel. Unless and until he does something else.
Yes..Doing NOTHING could actually be an asset to our Country. Shocking really !
It's much easier listening than watching this podcast, Lewis' arms flailing and hand gestures every time he speaks is just exhausting to watch.
Looking forward to the day when the discussion is about substance.
The Tory press haven’t got any real scandals about him so are attacking him with the slightest of thing, like his expenses all I can say is at least he’s being honest about them unlike the previous governments & he’s not wasting money on helicopters & private jets like Rishi & his mob did
"At least he is being honest"
No such thing as an honest lawyer, turned politician, corruption rules.
Accepting penthouses, suits, frocks, spectacles, free tickets amounting to hundreds of thousands of pounds is the truth.
This will be getting leaked from his own side 😂
I hadn't realised the Guardian and the Mirror were now part of the tory press, that's a new one. I don't think everything he accepted was wrong, but they set themselves up for this reaction with their rhetoric in opposition.
On the helicopters, the French and Germans each operate over a dozen dedicated jets and helicopters for government ministers. We're the only G7 country that doesn't, so I'd argue it's not that wasteful
@@PJH13 I don't think these idiots have a brain.
Honest, really ? His excuse for getting free tickets to a box at Arsenal is that as prime minister he was advised for security reasons not to sit in the stand. This doesn't explain the thousands of pounds of free tickets he received before he became prime minister.
Definite John Major vibe kicking in with Starmer.
can anyone make the public trust journalists again?
We must get those sausages back. Our King needs new fingers.
No.
No quite the opposite, what happened with winter fuel then with the gifts for rich privilege access, he has made himself a sausage to his own misconduct
Oh... Do you mean a ' Hostage ' to his own misconduct ?
I don’t know about others, but he won me over with his sausage policy alone.
Indeed. People are united against duplicitous Tories. At least Micky Gove joined the actual Tory party.
Simple answer: NO
How do you prepare a country for long-term growth, when you are crippling tomorrow's workers with a child benefit cap?
Maitlis to interview Huw Edward’s shock! The interview will take place in a remote Welsh cottage…blah, blah..
Starmer has a massive majority despite gaining about 30 per cent of the vote under first past the post and an appalling voter turnout. The tories are gone . Long live the new tories
Is it not a sign of inadequacy that he continues to need to kick Corbyn? So far, he has done nothing except follow the tory gameplan.
Why do you feel the need to spam the comments?
It's too woo big business. To reassure them that after the horrors of his predecessor, it is fine for them to bankroll his party because Labour is not going to do anything remotely ambitious or progressive to threaten their wealth.
Omg Wes PFI streeting
Zero to choose between liebour and the Tories
None-Of-The-Above or Lib Dems all the time now, Labour will never get my vote again.
NOTA would probably win all 650 seats, if we were given the option !
You can see the irony when someone tells you repeatedly that he's "show not tell" right?
He's no charisma. No vision. No empathy. No clue and no chance.
And no sausages! 🌭
So true. What are his values? I couldn't say if he was to the left of Tony Blair or the Right of Thatcher. We;d be better off with AI. It seems his main attributes are being duplicitous and anally retentive in equal measure.
Sausages!
Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss.
I'd say most people would have much more respect for a care worker than for Tory plan B.
Can't wait for more controls on my life. These level headed people will definitely know what's best. 🙄
An anodyne speech by an anodyne man
Streeting knows nothing about the highly suspect 4 million donation . Wow . Puzzled
The prescription is Tory continuity and austerity
How about clamping down on tax evasion and offshore bank accounts
I’d say the answer is NO
He is the guy who follows Tory fiscal rules and continues austerity. Thatchers dream . Disgusting
Every Labour speech is so repetitive, devoid of policy and a long time plan its incredibly frustrating.
None of the parties have a short, medium, or long term ' plan ' any more...
My father was a tool maker and a freebie wisher.
Absolutely not! I am a pensioner, didn’t vote Labour and at my age don’t have time for any ‘long term policies’.
As a pensioner you didn’t think about the young’s future by voting Brexit did you
Gosh, you do make it easy to prioritise young families. Did your mother not teach you that it's not all about you?
Snouts and trotters in the trough.
Why are you asking the question?
Morgan Mc Sweeney is on the right 😅
Starmer the Fuel Snatcher
Why release a piece on the 'before the leaders speech' after the leaders speech has already been given? Gave up 1:39 seconds in. Surely a better thing to release would be what they made of the speech? Its already 24 hours old
RUclips is a day behind their podcast episodes.
I'll save you wasting time. The answer is no.
I think he can, but it will take a huge amount of effort - and results in terms of public services and the economy.
Not to mention the tidal waves of stupidity, disinformation and propaganda on social media.
We all love being part of a tidal wave !
Not with our media.
I would like them to offer some solutions and a bit of optimism. I'm so tired of the austerity narrative at this point.
Narrative I.e. story not truth being the point. If you are tired of the fairytale, look at the factual numbers.
Public sector spending, as % gdp, been higher every single year since 2010 than was in any year from 97-07. So not austere at all.
No
Hilarious question, Starmer is the most spineless of this era. As always you normalize the utter insanity , for you that is now your purpose.
Definitely NOT ! He needs to go NOW!!!
Simple answer NO
Don't worry, guys: change is coming ... we'll just have to vote Starmer in for another few terms.
The geezers a lemon.
Why do so many feel a bit icky over this speech?
It's because the PM has a track record of changing tack whenever it gets a bit difficult. I find it hard to reconcile his proven track record with the fawning from all three of you.
Your group memory is the equivalent of a goldfish, with memory problems.
What kind of adult uses the word "icky"?
BDS
I wonder how many votes the Tories got in Streeting's constituency? Those votes could have spared us this stuff.
Smoking made dronking very unpleasant for non smokers and when they banned smoking indoors it led to crowds of people clogging up the doors. If you look at the streets they sre full of disposable vapes, in the same way that junkies throw needles on the streets. It's a pernicious addiction.
Two tier, free gear, no sausage starmer??? You're having a laugh.
So biased
Sure, he can. Hope he does. Unfortunately, the British public have a the political attention span of a tiktok-addicted teen and a predisposition for hatred so it remains to be seen if any political leader could in this day and age.
Is Emily okay? That eye make-up and or angle really isn't doing her any favours
how can keir "napoleon" starmer restore trust in politics after what he and the right-wing of the labour party did to jeremy corbyn, the uk public is generally left of centre and wanted a left of centre labour government, starmer gave them a further 5 years of a far-right tory government and ongoing austerity, punishing pensioners and benefit claimants.
The population is in favour of socialism for themselves but not for anyone else. I've heard loads of people cry that their dole is too high but everyone else's is too low. Lunacy.
Why didn't they vote for Corbyn then. If the public really wanted him, he would've won.
@dannyquinn9128 the first time they did. The second time they smeared him.
@@stevenwilliamson6236, 2017, jeremy corbyn received 12,877,918 votes, 2019, 10,269,051 votes, 2024 keir "napoleon" starmer received 9,708,716 votes, in both of corbyn's elections he proved to be more popular than starmer.
@@stevenwilliamson6236 How did they smear him?
Was it his attendance at a memorial for the terrorists involved in the Munich Olympics massacre, or his support for a blatantly antisemitic mural in East London?
What a pathetic excuse for a show.
Starmer has a massive majority despite gaining about 30 per cent of the vote under first past the post and an appalling voter turnout. The tories are gone . Long live the new tories
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